Best 18 inch Laptop - We Tested Them All

[@JustJoshTech]

🎉 Acer Predator Helios 18: bestbuy.7tiv.net/angxYN 💻 Asus Strix Scar 18: bestbuy.7tiv.net/AWDKox 👉 MSI Titan HX: amzn.to/4coHxGR 😎 Razer Blade 18: bestbuy.7tiv.net/JznLZ7 🤨 Alienware m18 R2: geni.us/2jXqM 🎉 Best Gaming Laptops: www.justjosh.tech/best-tech/Best-Laptops-for-Gaming UGreen Nexode Pro 100 Watt: bit.ly/3JGAZGs UGreen Nexode Pro 160 Watt: bit.ly/3Wg8ZB1

[@cbastien92]

Will you be reviewing the ASUS Vivobook S 14 OLED Laptop please? It’s a great deal @ $899 considering it comes with intel ultra 9 185H + 16gb ram and 1TB ssd which is also upgradable 😊

[@SrYova]

I think the #1 acer predator you are sending the link is not the mini LED Display. the mini LED one cost $800 more.

[@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep]

The acer helios was just on sale for 2600 at bestbuy that's practically half the price of the titan!

[@V-yy9bq]

@@JustJoshTech I m from italy :( and i buy used

[@shawnagrawal9069]

Me watching this knowing I'll never even consider buying a computer this big

[@hamzaaitabderrahmane3436]

*expensive

[@Gdsamplify]

@@hamzaaitabderrahmane3436 brokie

[@tokudayo]

*big and expensive 😭

[@oltorftheviking]

You can get a 17” Walmart asus for $1399

[@secondpost]

same

[@Phoenix56801]

Alienware's downfall needs to be studied

[@stephaniesmith13]

because they prioritize money over customer's feedback and same goes to razer. just buy asian brand laptops like msi, acer, asus and lenovo because they truly care both money and customer's feedback

[@warrax8104]

I had one since 2015 and its thermal throttling made it borderline useless for gaming, its vents filled with dust in couple of months, it was heavier than a brick. On the plus side it still works fine for my parents. But i dont see when oo what their actual peak was. New Lenovo is a dream comparably

[@alienus9092]

@@stephaniesmith13 Razer still makes often best laptops.

[@SeldomSeen-if4pq]

All they have to do is update the screens

[@Unicornpirate]

Still rocking a M18x R2. Works great today. Upgraded the GPU and added NVME

[@Aerospatial]

Man. That's not the fan noise in scar 18. It's the coil whine. Pretty famous for that 😬

[@motorhead20]

Thats too bad for others, after a few months I have had zero coil whine.

[@ejmb1992]

I honestly wish we could have a Lenovo Legion 18....I think they'd hit it out of the park

[@V-yy9bq]

lenovo is crazy, do a giant legion go and doesnt make a legion 18, it would be a jackpot for them, and for us

[@joelconolly5574]

Nah.

[@Bncxx1275]

@@V-yy9bq also acer Man why they both don't go 18 with max spec

[@bob890119]

always been looking for a top-end laptop comparison video. Thank you for that!!

[@helloworld77771]

The best reviewer out there. You spoke the truth, you found whats good and what not about these machines. Then you compared them with each other. And I can confirm your analysis. I have a Razer 17 and just bought the predator 18 4090. It's a mounstrocity but its all worth. It is bigger than the Blade 17 but its not huge to the point of being uncomfortable. The form factor is the same of the older 17 inch models, so it fits on an existing 17 inch sleeve. It aint that heavy an its a monster in performance - this is worth if you are an enthusiast / work-play VR games, Video editing, AI video, 3D rendering. I dont even play flat games on this, but VR, you will always need more and more The fans of the predator have a low pitch sound which does not disturb, in turbo mode its madness, but its worth it when you gonna play that unoptimized vr game or create a baking in Unity. I did had a scar 17 some years ago, and it is true it has a very annoying high pitch, so much that I returned it. The Razers have that issue as well. Could you weight the powerbricks? No video compared all of them. The Razer is so sexy and the Predator is the chunkiest. Having an 18 inch screen does feel enormous. This is especially relevant when working with video, 3d and unity. You will see tons more menus an feel more comfortable overall. With the 17 inch Razer blade you felt you needed a bit more space when the project is getting heavy.

[@cueball981]

Owning an Alienware M18r1, the screen is not that bad. Sure, it's not going to work well outside in daylight, but playing BG3 at the moment, I have no issues seeing things when I'm indoors. The performance is great, and I'm only running the RTX4080 variant. There's a TON about this laptop that make it great! Price wise, it's much less than most of the others mentioned here, has more ports, is more upgradeable with 4 NVME slots (on the 4080 and 4090 variants), and the build quality is great! Everyone picks on Alienware (Dell), but I am extremely happy with my machine.

[@justswitched8841]

I got one too. The other brands might offer better screens but they offer inferior build quality and their designs are a little too gamery. Alienware is more low key while still looking cool.

[@thenewdesign]

@@justswitched8841 I'm on my 2nd m18 and it's by far the best sub-20" laptop I've ever touched. I'd take a 4k option too though ngl

[@cueball981]

@@justswitched8841 It's a great looking laptop! I purchased a carbon fiber skin to goes over the lid as well as across the surface in front of the keyboard. It really looks sharp!

[@fractalelf7760]

@@justswitched8841And, best of all, onsite support. On the screen point, if we didn’t have new options over 300 no one would say a word, as if they game on the beach. Even most people in average conditions run 300 nit panels at like 50-70%…. Very few need more in reality.

[@ramisvakazov8757]

Thank you for this comment! You probably made my choice! ) The screen was my main concern!

[@kutasimusic]

I am a proud owner of a ALIENWARE M18 R1 (all AMD). I got it for a very discounted price so not going to complain much about it... The screen indeed is not the brightness, but feels very responsive. Has amazing colors, depth and "HDR like" image which I am not even sure how they achieved. Probably has high native contrast. I have had many gaming laptops and this screen feels the best to use. (this includes 16 inch Macbook Pro M1) I have had a Legion 7 with much brighter display, but that wasn't as pleasant as the Alienware. Colors also felt too blue. Also with the 18 inch size I don't really feel a need for an external monitor any more. It also runs pretty quiet on balanced/performance mode and just runs every game smooth and beautiful. For me, the only downside is that the Alienware is very heavy and probably the biggest M18 laptop on the market today, although mine has a small 330W charger. But I am happy for the winner. I originally wanted to buy the Helios too anyways... :)

[@Jikangire957]

I had my eye on the Acer Helios 4090 and after watching your video I decided to pull the trigger! It will be delivered on Tuesday the 11th! I can't wait!

[@ninjaslash52_98]

hows your experience with it? i've had mine for a bit over 2 weeks and while i havent had enough time to really test it out im still trying to work out the kinks to really get the absolute best out of it. keeping the temps low while maintaining great performance, getting the best out of the mini LED panel, and trying to do work arounds with that 14900HX. also have you tried the HDR mode on it? mine has looked god awful when testing OLED demos, lots of graphical hiccups until i went and updated everything again.

[@AliAbidalkareem]

We need an 18 inch non-gaming look laptop that has good battery life, excellent keyboard, outstanding haptic trackpad, and an amazing display. Besides the razor and doesn’t break the bank.

[@slymmfitzyc]

Check out the MSI Stealth 18 2024 model with 4k screen.

[@tobyzieglerrr]

I never wanted such a beast but for people with less space or no desk having to move often... They sure provide value.

[@MogRules01]

M18R2 here. Could the screen be brighter? Sure, but saying you need to be in a dungeon to make it usable is a little extreme, it's not THAT bad. That being said, they do need to upgrade the screens...they are falling behind in that area quite badly.

[@JustJoshTech]

Yes that is fair. But I definitely feel the screen is a major part of the laptop, and we haven't seen screens that dim since we did our Best Laptop for $200 video. I'm not joking. It's the dimmest of 70 laptops we have (other than the

[@shadowsmirk]

I could not have clicked to watch this video faster! I've been trying to compare them online. I'm not sure if I'll get one. I really wish one had an OLED display. And all laptops of this size should have amazing speakers. Anyways, thank you for gathering this info, I really appreciate your reviews.

[@JustJoshTech]

I hope the video delivered

[@azeaze9572]

My Alienware m18 r1 , 13900hx , rtx 4090 , qhd 165hz , 1 tb ss, 32gb ddr5 --- best laptop for my 😊

[@reaper7910]

How are the internal temps on the Helios 18? Does it reach 90°c+ when gaming or during stress tests?

[@DeusRegum]

I have had nothing but problems with Asus. Went with the AW M18R2 and haven't looked back. No Regrets.

[@JustJoshTech]

Thanks for sharing. I'm glad it worked out!

[@JogBird]

its so strange that the display options on the dell are so poor, esp. when we know there are many many options available

[@cameronbosch1213]

I feel that they're trying to push creators or those who want a better screen towards the Dell XPS lineup... Which is a completely different class of laptop and also awful in general. Dell needs to go back to the drawing board and learn why Apple stopped doing all of the crap Dell is now doing.

[@ScurvyMcGruff]

@@cameronbosch1213 I hate it when brands do this. If a company is going to sabotage a product I want to push me towards another product they sell, why wouldn't I just buy from a different brand?

[@hassb6348]

You get it man.. you get what a good laptop needs to be. Thanks for your videos!

[@higgs508]

I was just about to get rid of my dungeon but now......

[@thespoffo5424]

Damn quality of the videos is really good better then linus tech tips l, love u Josh and the team❤

[@jacobmitchell6442]

I got the predator Helios 18 love it

[@Kraogg85]

Mine is on it's way.

[@Nabeel9999]

I never regret owning the Scar, it’s my 4th ASUS laptop

[@ronmc1677]

Really cool Josh! Great that you have done here what I have not seen any other tech youtuber do yet. I have searched endlessly for a good comparison featuring all the 18 inchers to know which is the best one so that I know what to go with to be my on the go portable workstation! Thanks and cheers

[@sinongmakulet]

For seniors, I love this big 18-inch screen. 😄

[@626hsn]

I think Razer is the best Macbook replacement and it has the most similar look and also keyboard to a MacBook. So for someone who is considering switching from a Macbook Pro to a powerful Windows laptop, I think Razer 18 is the best option.

[@mikehibbett3301]

How can a laptop be powerful without fantastic heat removal?

[@zombiefied3251]

You changed your style of video. It used to be very calm and informative. Now it is not. Go back. Watch one of your videos from 3 years ago. Do it like that guy.

[@JustJoshTech]

What I've been aiming to do is give you the information I feel you need as quick as possible so you can get on with your day

[@kestonsmith1354]

​@@JustJoshTechI like this video, it's very quick and you get to the point.

[@tweelve12]

Make it 0.5x?

[@gj1234567899999]

I need a big laptop screen for productivity and gaming. However I don’t necessarily need the best specs to play the latest AAA games just good enough for most games. Any suggestions on budget 18 inch laptops?

[@AlexZaglushaka]

Got Strix G18 and it was best buy in my life 😊

[@xmaverickhunterkx]

Only spec that matters: Noise.

[@supergary]

Love this video format!

[@W4HB]

Imagine spending that much on a laptop which has these issues...disappointing, such issues are acceptable for budget devices that cost below $800..great video btw, personally I'll never buy a laptop for gaming which knowing that i could get better performance and customization with a desktop, yet i enjoy watching your videos ❤

[@kpopfanphotos]

While I agree with the issues, if you compare it to a desktop then you weren't the target demographic for these laptops anyways. They're targetted at people that need to be mobile. If you're just sitting here going home every day and never traveling then yeah a laptop objectively doesn't make sense to purchase.

[@W4HB]

@crshoveride I've never owned a desktop pc, and always used laptops, and i do prefer them over desktops for portability, but gaming laptops are a joke, they aren't really portable, because once you unplug the power it'll last for barely an hour or two which isn't good for gaming or any other task, so here we just have heavy, super expensive devices which aren't really portable due to the large size and will die quickly if used unplugged, but i really didn't appreciate the fact that these cost way too much but still had major flaws. That being said, when he was talking about each of them, i thought they were absolutely amazing and beautiful devices..finally, I'm too broke to even touch them inside stores lol

[@TheSkyrux]

ok but which one will run runescape no lag

[@Kinetically_Creative]

Bro Learned that League is full of toxic people from a whole review. ☠ Anyways, my favorite gaming type laptop would probably be the ASUS ROG Zephyrus G16. Newest Design

[@wynzavian2000]

It’s no way to please everyone. Razer laptops are known for thin and portable, while still getting the full TDP. Does that means there isn’t sacrifices to be made? Absolutely, even at that price. Is it the best laptop at cooling or do you get the best Keyboard ? No, this is why you make your selections depending on your preference. Asus, Acer, MSI & Dell have other options, but again, there is no perfect laptop that checks all the boxes.

[@lankythedanky]

Thin and portable is not a term I would use for any 18 inch laptop

[@ts8960]

I cannot like your video if you are not going to discuss the miniled side effects (blooming effect). It's of crucial importance.

[@JustJoshTech]

We are still looking into this. Could you post reports of this issue so we can take a look?

[@IrvinMG]

i returned my alien ware m19 r2 cause it reached 99°C every time i opened a game, so it was a overcloaking issue? it wasn't needed to return it? D:

[@Shaketha-r1u]

I'm getting the Alienware Gaming laptop Best one

[@FoxxFire]

I'm not sorry and i will never not mention this; a small right shift key on an 18 inch laptop is unacceptable. A small right shift key is the one thing on a keyboard i could never get used to. I suppose if it's your only device you can, but most of us are using other devices, especially at work.

[@Badsmarty]

Great review! I like how you guys address the nuances.

[@mibixfox3648]

Is the Asus' MIniLED better than the Acer's?

[@tejvarun_Otaku]

so basically ASUS scar 18 is better in thermals,best performance on battery,brightest display,best battery, 2nd best performance on Timespy & cinebench slightly behind 1st. sounds like a WINNER to me 😉

[@JustJoshTech]

Yeah, honestly the Scar and Predator were insanely close. We could have gone either way

[@PunishrZA27]

Just an FYI, I have a Scar 18 with a 4080 and running it with a good Coolermaster laptop cooler. GPU temp maxes out at 80 degrees C and fan noise is 45dB. GPU is overlocked by 200Mhz on Core 1000Mhz on memory. Runs like a dream and quite silent. I personally think the slightly lower spec laptop 4080 cards run very well in an 18 inch configuration. My TimeSpy GPU score is 19899 with these settings.

[@geoffreythompson2750]

I have been testing the Raider 18 from Costco which is $3000 for a 14900HX, QHD 240hz IPS display, 4080 mobile, 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD along with a membrane keyboard and normal clickpad. The heatsink with heatpipes instead of a vapor chamber still does a good job and while the chassis is not as nice as the Titan, I like it more than the other options and the price is much more reasonable than the Titan.

[@cutthat4643]

Should be 1. 2024 Razer 18, 2. Asus Scar 18, 3. MSI, 4. Acer and last place the Alienware because of the ridiculously bad screen , wtf Dell

[@wrx95pro]

true, Asus & Razer are the best 18inch laptops here, I don't know how Acer even got to 1st place, it's very funny

[@tomgjonaj9965]

Razer blade 18 2024 is number 1, can’t believe you would place the cheap plastic scar or terrible Titan 18 with no gsync above it.

[@JustJoshTech]

If you can handle the keyboard its a very good laptop. All but 1 of the people I know who've used it find it the worst laptop keyboard going around right now.

[@haddedoussama14]

Now THIS is a great video

[@IamTheGreatCornholioo]

Which one has the best speakers?

[@bcarr1122]

Josh, I love your videos, but I didn't like the loud, harsh intro sequence. Yes, these laptops are targeted at a certain segment of the market. It shouldn't matter. Please keep your reviews honest, genuine, and graceful, which has always been what you're about.

[@A_Planner_and_a_Dreamer]

Are you here for the laptop reviews, or are you here for audio engineering and filmmaking? Because you’ve lost the plot if you are here whining about the "¡LoUd!" intro.

[@omarcortes5754]

I have the budget for the Blade but I also like the Scar.

[@JustJoshTech]

I'd personally get the Scar unless you are really okay with the Blades keyboard

[@ACE112ACE112]

300 nits aint bad

[@Tret219]

I got the G18 from asus 4080 with an i9-14900hx. I am seriously impressed! the performance is ridiculous. I can run Ultra everything, Ray Tracing everything, but the biggest surprise to me was the thermals.. so any game i've run i haven't hit 80c on either GPU or CPU. i just have the back propped up on a couple old DVD's while keeping the performance mode on and the thermals are more than okay. Also my old display just doesn't even come close to this one.

[@ravvraj863]

There is one more demographic like me who are short sighted but don't want to buy a bifocul lens and I can barely see the 17 inch screen An 18 Inch screen would be perfect so that way I can use the laptop screen as an extra screen. I need 4 screens and due the lack of ports I can't fold my laptop and keep it under my monitor and use 4 monitors or 3. (with my existing laptop which is pretty old) I can only use maximum 2 monitors & I can't connect my external SSD unless I get a very expensive Belkin Hub port which is the only brand where the Data port works with a monitor connected the HDMI port on the hub. So yes there are people who will use an external monitor with an 18inch screen. I would buy the 21inch Predator if it was easily available in my country. But thats an older laptop hope they release a new version with the latest Ram and more Ports like 2 Thunderbold and a HDMI and a mini-display port. So we can connect atleast 3 external monitors with 1 Thunderbold free for an external SSD.

[@anikalli6269]

Glad I came across this channel...great video bro! You gonna do a dedicated video for the acer helios 18?

[@alisheikh1582]

Please Double check your blade 18 Keyboard temps Thanks.

[@ozzmosis210]

I knew the Alienware would be last due to the knuckleheads putting that weak monitor on it, again, but never thought the MSI wouldn't be #1 or #2.

[@theincredibleediblekrausewich]

The ROG Strix series has a garbage keyboard! What a miss!! Hard to read in any lighting situation.. Pick anything else

[@magomat6756]

i have a alienware R18 and non of the mention about the alienware is tru . its a great machine no problem at all and the screen is great.

[@bkfinestmark]

i dont understand why pp make a big deal out of fan noise i mean just put on some noise canceling headphones

[@christopherlapointe-sy8jt]

I can't think you enough for your amazing work, you are saving customers from a bad financial decision God bless you Josh and your team. Can you update 18 inch laptops on your website thank you

[@JustJoshTech]

Thanks mate. Could you let me know what is not correctly updated on the site?

[@christopherlapointe-sy8jt]

The 18 inches are still on review but you already made a video regarding them. Also can you just do an 18 inch category like your 16 inch one

[@JustJoshTech]

@@christopherlapointe-sy8jt Ah yes fixing that now!

[@JustJoshTech]

Thank you

[@JT11111]

Hi Josh, I bought a Legion 7i Gen 9 last month, after 20 days of use, it started to give me black screen every time I booted up any game, whether on steam, battlenet, unreal, it black screened when the laptop was on charge but it didn't when it was off charge, this happened before and after I updated EVERYTHING, deleted and redownloaded EVERYTHING. Now that you mentioned you have issues with yours, I am glad I'm not the only one, I ended up returning the Legion and now I am in a void of not knowing what to do, that was a top choice of mine but if its faulty like this when I buy it again it will be super frustrating, what would you recommend?

[@JustJoshTech]

There is a big issue going around right now like this. Did you run in Optimus or direct to GPU. For us it only happens direct to gpu

[@JT11111]

@@JustJoshTech I think I ran on Optimus, I didn’t change the option of “Optimus” or “GPU only” and just used it how it was directly out of the box and how Nvidia was downloaded, I contacted technical team, they didn’t help, and since I was coming to my last few days of the 30 day return I didn’t want to take risks of keeping a faulty laptop, I hope we get an update on this or something

[@KouroshFarrokhzad]

Great video Josh. I appreciate the high-density information in such a short form factor. I can tell that you spent a lot of time in editing your script and b-roll tightly in order to focus on your analysis over simple raw information. This is impressive and intelligent presentation technique - and very much appreciated!

[@JustJoshTech]

You are spot on. My aim is to make the most of your 12 minutes of time. No fluff, telling you what you need to know as fast and as interesting as possible. Scripts like this one btw tend to take about 8 hours (thats on top of testing time)

[@KouroshFarrokhzad]

@@JustJoshTech It absolutely shows, Josh. It's obvious that these are carefully crafted videos. I just wanted to let you know that it makes your content stand out, especially to those of us who can spot the hard work and next-level talent.

[@pashafalahati]

dude you are the man , i choose asus strix g18 , tHANK YOU!

[@DavidNaziricvgb]

alright, since you encourage us to leave reviews, here is my first review on any youtub channel, EVER. the problem with your reviews are that it only covers laptops that can be bought in th US, for instance at this exact time, the latest Vivobook s 14 that I was able to buy in finland was the 2023 versian with 13700H intel cpu around 1,300 Euros. It's just not comparable to its price when it was launched in the US. Seconly, you point out the best laptops for Students, butthere are different type of student. a person in high school is also a doctrol degree student is also a student.(I'm master student in mechanical engineering). and I need a laptop to hold out it self while doing tons of calculation and coding using matlab, and honestly, I couldnt careless about the laptops refresh rate or display, I just need somthing to have a powerful CPU while not getting too hot, and honestly APPLE laptops is out of the question for me, since they dont support specific programs, and about the dispaly I just need somthing that would't irritate my eyes after consistant 12 work hours on a laptop, also I need the laptop to have a solid built quality and comfortable keyboard. even the battery life isnt that important since If a laptop can keep itself up to 5 hours, its just good enough and then I can plug it in. I know dozens of students in the same condition. so give out reviews for us as well, right now im deciding to go for a lenovo slim pro 7 with ryzen 7 7840HS cpu or to go with a HP pavilion plus with 7840U and i literally cant make up my mind, since they have the same price for 1,100 euros in Finland and the same other specs with both having the same integrated GPU, but im not sure about built quality and tempreature during my work just a hint to give you since there are no amazon in finland, you can check Gigantti.fi power.fi verkkokauppa.com dustin.fi (I'm just copying this comment again on your latest video to make sure that you will read it). also let me know about the pavilion and lenovo that i mentioned

[@NikolaRistoski-e9g]

Can someone confirm the following? Acer Predator Helios 18 version 2024: Is the mini-led screen prone to invisible but potentially harmful PWM (Pulse width modulation) which is technology that controls the brightness level of the screen, and I read somewhere on internet that it has value of around 4800, and some users on OLED screens find having PWM presence in their laptops to create eyes fatigue? What thermal paste is used on the cooling solution, liquid metal or standard? Thank you!

[@leonardwise5807]

Better be carefull you're starting to make the Dell xps 16.3 look reasonable at the sale price of 2899. I am glad you finally found religion on a 4k screen. Imagine that clarity and oled. I may have to buy another one. Plus, the weight and size savings maybe you should have included it inyour 18-inch comparison. It's the largest 4k 16 inch laptop available. I get 55 Excel columns, thanks to the incredible class leading resolution . Who wants a big heavy, loud, ugly computer. When you can have a sleek, beautiful xps. For less!!!!!

[@johng4093]

The AW 18r2 can be customized so I'm not sure the specs of your test laptop, 2 different screens are available not to mention the GPU, CPU, RAM, etc.

[@damesbond0009]

I just bought this yesterday with the 4080 …. Is this enough laptop to last a SOLID 2 years for a soon to be brand new KZbin content creator, it only has 32gb of ram not 64… going to unbox tonight

[@nimabaraty6553]

Love 18 inch laptops ❤ thanks for the video

[@doudoucover]

I will buy a 18 inch laptop this year and this video come at the perfect time!! Thanks Also after viewing a lot of reviews i cannot agree with acer, c'mon acer is very bad in a lot of things if you test everithing.. easily 5 or 4 place for Acer!!

[@fractalelf7760]

Despite all, Dells onsite support still tips the scale. The screen business is way oversold. People gamed contentedly on 300 nit laptops for over a decade and still do. In normal indoor lighting conditions (no one is taking these outdoors for long) the screen is more than fine. It also leads on cost here…

[@ArtificialDetour]

Please everyone!!! Read the trustpilot comments before buying an ASUS laptop, they scammed 1500€ from me...

[@harris1288]

What do u mean?

[@Fadope78]

​@@harris1288Their service is terrible and Im in contact with the consumer assistance office because they do mot want to repair/replace my zenbook which broke after 9 months while opening the laptop...

[@Umurilik]

Don't buy the Asus Rog strix g18 nebula IPS. Mine has huge backlight bleeding :(. I want an OLED 18 laptop

[@ravvraj863]

I remember those 17.3 inch laptops that were 21 to 23 inches in size with the bezel. I am just hoping that someone releases an zero bezel 21 or 23 laptop with a large battery.

[@Just_a_random_birb]

18 inch laptops? They exist?!

[@tylton_]

Out of the driver issues mentioned at the end, one stuck out to me: the display not waking up from sleep. I am convinced this is a Windows issue, as I have this exact same issue with my Dell XPS 15 9530 base model (Intel Arc, not Nvidia graphics)

[@iplaydthis]

Msi is making a huge mistake by using the shitseries keyboard, and they are all wrong with the amount of rgb… But again, msi sucks the most with that ridiculous trackpad

[@thenewdesign]

Sounds like you guys lost the panel lottery, bummer. My m18 R2 had an exquisite screen, I see colors on that thing I don't see on my desktop monitors or my Samsung Frame tvs

[@asdfTheGreat]

I'm sure you tried this, but when you open the lid and the screen doesn't come on, try closing the lid and opening it back up. It works 100% of the time for my 2011 Asus G73.

[@incognito7843]

About the heat issue. The 4090 is more power sufficient and runs cooler than the 4080, so in this particular case you are a bit off the mark. Cool and battery life is actually a selling pint for the 4090.

[@marcin_karwinski]

Too bad Acer offers the miniLED option only on select markets. Others can only get a regular IPS screen on those units. It also tops at RTX4080 in most markets. And going with anything below means a downgraded cooling (only RTX4080, with miniLED option, and higher get the better cooling solution), going lower in the stack it's offered with simpler heatpipe arrangements, previous gen fan design, and a weaker 165Hz 1200p screen. Sure, even on the lowest SKU it seems, you still get the RGB on the keys, palmrest logo, and rear/back side for those that care about light effects more than performance or functionality of the device... Same for ROG, where in most markets only the top tier RTX4090 models get adorned with miniLED back-light screen technology. Most in the stack use the tried and tested IPS units. Still, most of those laptops lack a proper premium tier webcam experience. Each manufacturer has the ultrabook line-ups sporting multi-MP webcam with IR/Windows Hello, often with fingerprint scanner even on the very cramped designs. And these top of the line biggest models? Only maybe good enough with FHD resolution. Why? Why is there no proper/bigger sensor? It's not like they lack the space on the models body. In the same vain, why not have multiple security options? Lidar, IR for face unlock, proper fingerprint sensor, maybe NFC reader and a companion app for the smartphone, or a security card/id card reader... there's enough space in the volume to accommodate all of these. The speakers in those big chassis should also have sounded better. Even if you target headphones using clientèle. Cause if so, then maybe they should've put a proper/better DAC with an AMP inside the chassis to drive better sound over headphones. Otherwise, they should have used the volume to actually boost the overall audio experience. As mentioned in the video, these really should've come with a full-size card reader. You can use adapters to put a microSD inside such a reader, but not vice versa... Also having just 2 As and 2 Cs, RJ45 and HDMI on a chassis this big should be considered a drawback. Lenovo's 16-inch Legions manage to cramp more connectivity, so Asus is almost too lazy/limited given the hardware and chassis constraints on the top of the line Scar 18 and G18. Speaking of which, since in many regions G18 gets exactly the same cooling options as the lower tier Scars, you should've taken them into account in this comparison as well. Heck, Acer's Helios line-ups were typically targeting the same clients as Asus G line-ups. Where Asus deployed Scars, Acer had Tritons... We still haven't seen an 18-inch Triton, so I guess taking those Acer 18-inch models is good, provided we match them with their natural competitors as well. Along the same lines, MSI has the Raider 18 as the slightly cheaper variation on the Titan chassis and components... You missed it in this comparison. Both of those MSI lines share the RAM capacities, which is double that of the rest of this stack. That might be important for some. But it also means/meant RAM limited frequency, even with the same capacity/modules as on the rest of the pack... You know how any manufacturer could've used the palmrest and keyboard deck space if they wanted to improve it all a bit? Asus once, quite recently, did the S17 with a raised/angled keyboard part. That would've opened areas for cooling, separate keyboard keys from the boiling heat underneath, and prep the deck for usage. Maybe this needs to come back? Furthermore, if Titan's touchpad is such a gimmick while similar approach in XPS 13 is deemed good, why not add a touchpad across the whole deck, akin to Asus dual screen designs, only with a touchpad instead of a screen and moved down below the keyboard... want extra functionality? Add a row of simple LEDs below and above such full-width touchpad, allow users to decide the location and size/actual width of active touch input registering area and mark it using 4 corners limits with those LEDs. Want an alternative? Use an E-ink screen and draw which area is unblocked. It could still be back-lit, and it could allow a pretty big surface for touch interaction and still allow one to limit/disable most problematic areas when needed. Alternatively, maybe they need to experiment a bit more with the colour tablet sized touchpad to the side of the keyboard... the space could certainly help with such an arrangement, with a touchpad/tablet or a secondary screen to the side. Finally, maybe some manufacturers could spare a few cubic centimetres for an SFP/SFP+/SFP28 cage inside for up to 10GbE-25GbE of cabled network. Or just plain old BaseT 10GbE port to differentiate itself and potentially better integrate with the higher speed networks potential customers may have. Heck, maybe one or two companies could even integrate the almost forgotten nowadays optical disc readers/writers. Or use the volume to accommodate enterprise formats such as E1.S or U.2 for storage purposes. Maybe we'll even get a 19- or 20-inch successor for those 18-inch desktop replacement laptops, successors to the big ones from "yesteryear" that sported 20+-inch curved designs that costed a fortune compared to regular top gaming/workstation laptops of their time.

[@Arroganzzz]

Big problem with helios 18 is that ACER LOCKED UNDERVOLTING ON i9 HX MODELS 🤡🤡

[@pipebomber04]

A desktop is much lighter and has longer battery life than gaming laptops. -lonely desktop gamers

[@SelBre]

Can anyone please tell me if Lenovo Legion 7i , i7 11800H; 32GB, 1TB, GeForce RTX 3080 16GB(vram I assume), is good? I am a noob and am currently searching for my first gaming laptop. (Note: it's used, but still good, apparently)

[@cassmelendez1279]

What about the temp / thermals ?

[@Dr.D00p]

I feel Alienware are taking the BOM savings with poor screens because they know that for the vast majority of the time their laptops are used as desktop replacements, hooked up to expensive high end monitors.

[@DemonSlayer1902]

Asus rog is the best laptop as the only laptop with switch to shift from local zone to single zone backlighting in mini LED panel.

[@pch1147]

Enjoyed this very much.

[@tahirhameed-mth1530]

Its quite misleading comparison, I think Titan 18 is well build, beautiful and a power house.

[@arashbahrami5974]

It was great Josh thanks , esp. the last part of the video 👍

[@ranjitmandal1612]

Heavens help 😂

[@cutthat4643]

Wait this is las years Razer blade 18?

[@kpopfanphotos]

No this is the new one

[@motorhead20]

The problem with the display and mux switch is windows HDR mode. Turn it off with windows key+alt+b and the screen turns back on, no need to restart.

[@ISis37471]

great video bro! i know this is unrelated, but you guys seem to only respond to the first comments, so… i wanted to ask how similar is the build quality of the spectre x360 14 compared to a macbook pro?

[@JustJoshTech]

If MacBook is a 10 out of 10, New Spectre is probbaly a 9. So it's close but not quite there

[@ISis37471]

@@JustJoshTech I’m definitely buying it than, thank you for the response!

[@JustJoshTech]

@IlyasSahnoun I haven't re checked the trackpad palm rejection though. That was a tad annoying. That's it's only downside but its not the end of the world. When you buy make sure to use one of our links if you can, it helps support the channel

[@ISis37471]

@@JustJoshTech I'll use your links, i never type with my hand on the trackpad tho so palm rejection isn't a concern at all to me.

[@asterx_obelix653]

Is it me, or this channel is terribly biased towards Asus? No laptop is perfect, heck most are far from perfect. IMO what matters most is the after sales service. Nothing beats Lenovo or Dell as far as after sales service goes. You can't talk to a human at Razer. And Asus is equally terrible, so you are at the mercy of the product you receive.

[@JustJoshTech]

Bias towards Asus? The video you commented in had an Acer laptop win. Our recommendations by brand tend to be 1) Apple, 2) Lenovo, 3) HP, 4) Asus tied with Dell and Acer

[@lifeindivine]

Josh Sir what are your views of HP's line of Gaming Laptops - Omen and Victus? The new ones, are they competitive or any good? The 16.1-inch ones, not the 14 inches Transcend. Do they impress you and would you recommend them? They have traditionally been more affordable compared to others.

[@noname0858]

Good review in most respects, but a rather superficial treatment of the laptops display functionality. Specs aren't everything. How good is each laptop's mini-led implementation (ghosting? starfield testing? blooming?). Minimum screen brightness (which can significantly affect useability in lowlight settings)? Regarding other matters, Upgradability--RAM slots? NVMe slots? Come now, you can do a bit better...

[@JustJoshTech]

We talked about the displays grey to grey and white to black. Even had Jarrod's tech drop in to speak about it. We also covered RAM upgradeability. As we said at the beginning, you should not be choosing between these laptops based on small things that you can look up yourself like NVME slots. The usability of these laptops is why you should choose one over the other. That's what matters the most. These laptops are extremely different

[@mohammed976.]

Hey Josh , I know that's not related but can I have your opinion on the 14 inches Yoga 7i with Intel 1355U inside ? Would you recommend it for the average user who doesn't game ?

[@chy453]

as someone who owns a helios 16 I would never imagine the helios 18 coming in top good video as always josh and team

[@JustJoshTech]

What do you not like about it?

[@wrx95pro]

​@@JustJoshTechbecause it's total trash, I don't understand how you decided on 1st place for it, very cheap plastic body that will fall apart in 3 years, awful hardware layout inside, barely usable software, very high pitched fan noise, sleep mode issues, crappy speakers ... it's just a junk

[@ihorlysiuk]

Alien why get lower brightness in 2024 so bad