How To Deal With A Bad Manager - Toxic Bosses

[@thehawk5141]

Don’t vent to coworkers: This is tried and true advice.

[@StewartLucrative]

I agree completely, it Will be used against you by an informant / brown nose.

[@dotdashdotdash]

Correct. They will feed it back to the toxic manager

[@ghostghost7067]

collective grievance

[@thunderking8925]

They'll snitch on you or they have loose lips.

[@HisameArtwork]

@@thunderking8925 oh i've met those kinds of employees. short cut climbers. usually lead to a company going broke because they end up with incompetent ppl in leadership that are just brown nosers. I don't understand how these ppl came to exist... like how sucky must their childhood have been to think not addressing issues and backstabbing is a way to go though life. just bizarre.

[@Chris-ze4sq]

At the end of the day, if a boss doesn’t like you, there won’t be much you can do to change them. It’s best just to get away from them.

[@Mishrose704]

True

[@shqa574]

This is correct. You will know if the boss is targeting you only. A few employees told me that my boss was very nice. Yes... he was nice to them, but nasty to me. Toxic bosses are two-faced.

[@vickyfan62001]

100% agree

[@rikadew]

​@@shqa574they can't be trusted at all. I've seen my toxic executive switch up on ppl. She wants to look good and no matter how bad you are, if she's getting praised because of you, she'll let you do whatever you want 🙄

[@phoenixflower1225]

@@shqa574 hell yes

[@ronsonleeroy__6541]

According to statistics, toxic boss never change after confromting them. Toxic boss will not admit they are toxic. They will just blame you for them acting that way.

[@ABCEasyas--]

That happened to me very recently. I won’t even bother asking them for help anymore.

[@rockstarofredondo]

Exactly, there’s no point to try to address it, ever.

[@rikadew]

True. They don't take accountability and will justify their treatment of you or gaslight you that it's a good thing. But secretly try to fire you

[@novash653]

Had this happen to me at my previous IT job (also happened to colleagues on my team from the same person) the last team meeting we had (without the manager) pretty much had everyone say they was unhappy etc including myself. After this, the manager had less interactions with the team but in my eyes the damage had been done and at the end of the day they're still the manager. I left for another job as I refuse to provide my time as a service for an manager who's not going to treat me with respect (the new job fell through as it was even worse sadly so I'm out of work) but wish relatives would understand my pov and situation better instead of telling me I should've stayed in both jobs. I work to provide a service not to be bullied by incompetent management and let my mental health decline.

[@smartmarketing173]

3 of my 7 bosses were so toxic that I literally developed a form of PTSD from years of the emotional abuse. It’s not worth it. Get out.

[@crystalcole888]

@Joe Schmoe I approve this message👍

[@watamutha]

LOL yup. You're better off developing a relationship with the parents so you have a couch to crash on.

[@nunyabitness57]

Same here

[@shqa574]

I had a total of three toxic bosses at my last two jobs. I was privileged to watch them leave before I did, but it took some years. Boss #1 vanished in the night after a sensitive "For Your Eyes Only" HR investigation. Boss #2 was terminated but she refused to leave. She told them to process her retirement, with full retirement benefits. Boss #3's contract was not renewed. What Boss#3 did to me, Karma got him in the end, via his supervisor. Hallelujah! Boss #3 affected my physical and mental health drastically.

[@PeterParker-ff7ub]

unfortunately most can't.

[@Fireguy723]

Remember toxic bosses don't have friends, they have useful idiots. Don't be one....

[@dennismclaurin1487]

Unfortunately, I wound have major trouble finding another job, and a better one, if I did.

[@thunderking8925]

Just cuz you don't have friends doesn't mean your toxic. That is 1 dimensional thinking. Look who you are.

[@PeterParker-ff7ub]

how? you have to do the work they assign

[@PeterParker-ff7ub]

@@thunderking8925 bad bosses don't

[@ChuChuAndAhBa]

Nah..... Maybe at home they are afraid of their wife and have a lot of drinking buddies. A person usually has 2 faces.

[@seinfan9]

Find a different job. Your career is going to be stunted with a bad manager.

[@dennismclaurin1487]

If I knew I could get another job, and a better one, I would've been gone from this current one over 20 years ago

[@Lisa-my5sy]

And your personal life, mental health and happiness. No job is worth any of that, it’s just a job

[@shqa574]

The career, mental health and phyical health will also be impacted by the actions of the toxic manager. "...Been there! Done that! Never again!"

[@thebrownqueeno1]

Facts

[@SagaciousGoat]

I disagree. If you have a shitty boss, then you don't need your boss to have a different attitude. You need a different boss. And that applies to any other relationship. It is really as simple as that, the very idea of you "fixing" other people is frankly megalomaniac and stupid.

[@gusmonster59]

This advice of walking on eggshells and coming in early and/or staying late to make an asshole happy isn't the way to deal with a bad boss. I have come to not working unless I get paid. All those 10 minutes adds up quickly to unpaid hours of work.

[@BawkBawkBawk666]

Sounds like solid advice from someone who doesn't work on relationships

[@watamutha]

I agree with you. I'd rather get fired and find a new job. It's not worth suffering for an ass.

[@Chris-es3wf]

So your solution is to find a boss with no flaws? Riiiight. I'm sure you're a perfect employee too = )

[@jackcarraway4707]

@@Chris-es3wf Of course there's no such thing as a perfect boss. However, it's stupid to go out of your way to please a TOXIC boss. These people don't change. If you have a toxic boss and not under contract, find another job with a more promising boss. Toxic bosses are not worth the stress.

[@benrobinson375]

I'd say follow all these steps to buy you time while looking for another job. There are lots of terrible bosses out there but also many that aren't terrible. Life is too short and you don't want your career and health to suffer.

[@ForgottenKnight1]

The first step in dealing with a bad boss is finding a new role inside or outside the company. Don't bend backwards and try to make the guy improve his attitude. He won't. Do your job properly and if he's an asshole, change companies and sayonara.

[@thebeesknees745]

I always lived by this saying: "water off a ducks back". If the boss makes it unbearable, find another job. Everyone is hiring and I guarantee they will pay you more.

[@vipermustang42]

I've been in a situation where I had a pretty good boss in the start, but got crappy in the end. That is not always easy to deal with. But once he tried to change my title, I started to stop caring. Even more so when he posted my job later. I do not what was going to happen next, but I put in my 2 weeks and they let me go (no surprise there). Yeah, for people that had good bosses, when this happens, it can become hard.

[@cathyu.1487]

THIS! A good friend of mine had a toxic boss - things were sunshine and roses until yearly review, where the boss would suddenly move all the goalposts and criticism them for things that weren't even a part of their KPIs. My friend was given a warning for something that their boss had never asked for or addressed with them before. Even the HR manager said "... but this person didn't do anything wrong. You're trying to give them a warning for something you've never warned them about before!" Rather than try to work it out with HR, they updated their resume and started applying for other jobs. Just recently got hired at a much better company, healthier management, better team support with higher pay.

[@cryptojonny6837]

Thing is many jobs you have to deal with many workers or a boss sometimes and some dont like dealing with them in person. I much prefer a environment where there is not many ppl around. I been trying to apply at many remote jobs and no luck.

[@jefferyfowler7860]

Dealing with bad bosses is so degrading. A bad boss will always drag you down and abuse you. Get out.

[@dennismclaurin1487]

If I knew I could get another job, I would've been out of the toxic workplace I'm at; Wasn't always toxic.There's more to this picture, to say the very least. God knows I have a story to tell

[@patricearruda]

He is absolutely right. Do not vent to your boss nor coworkers as they will use against you. He is also right as do not trust folks in the office. They all have an agenda.

[@evilrslade]

You have to walk. There is no "dealing" with Bad bosses. Find something else. Then tell whoever is the person with the highest authority in the company that you have access to why you left. It's not your job to fix some empathy free sociopathic shit who treats people poorly.

[@Hannah-zw9ow]

My last boss was awful. Patronizing, disrespectful, she overworked me like CRAZY (the first two weeks of this year I literally didn’t get a break. Not evenings, not weekends. I was being worked that hard), she was big on “self care” so would often show up hours late or not at all, would leave for lunch, and would leave early, but I was never allowed to do anything even like that. Anyway, she ended up firing me because I hung up on her while she was yelling at me for something that was her own fault. I have a better job now.

[@thehawk5141]

Good for you. It’s for the best.

[@Gill12283]

Sounds like the boss from Hell

[@aaronc4724]

Glad I don't have it that bad.

[@jefferyfowler7860]

I did the same. It's like tons of weight off your shoulders. I'm proud for you.

[@lindseysummers5351]

I had a bad boss years ago who screamed at me for following her directions and tried to take me to task for something I could not fulfill. She was very good at fingerpointing without knowing what she was talking about. I got the last laugh on her, though. She ended up retiring, and I showed up to her party only to get something to eat and to see that she actually was leaving. A few months later, due to us still being in the Great Recession and dealing with austerity measures, my Department gave cash bonuses to entice employees who had reached the retirement threshold to retire. So, she missed out on a nice pile of cash. Had she held on for just a few more months and gotten the incentive, that's money she could have used for investments, seed money for a new business, paying off debts, purchasing a new vehicle, travel, you name it. Seeing the agony on her face after all the s--- she put me and others through gave me a moment of pleasure. I have had both good and bad bosses through my career. I love what I do, so I just let it be and focus on my work.

[@robertcarson7803]

I really like the message of this channel and the whole “free agent” concept. Its a great way to look at it!

[@human151]

Bosses are just one rung up on the ladder. He/she is still a working person. It’s sad that working people purposely screw over other working people.

[@ahlsrobe]

Sadly, this topic is another hard lesson that is learned after the fact. The part about venting to a coworker about how your boss is treating you is really important. You just have to filter everything you say to coworkers because they don't have your best interests even if you consider them a friend. Things will always get back to your boss.

[@AKO_Always]

I used to say nasty things about my boss to people I know would tell them and I was hoping they’d confront me.

[@dennismclaurin1487]

There's plenty of Judases in the world these days.

[@randyeller8139]

Time to go. Dealing with a narcissist that has kept me at part time over the last 9 years while he promoted people off the street. Routinely tries to gaslight us with the old, “ Bigwigs are coming, Bigwigs are coming! Everyone panic!” Schtick to prove he can work us to death anytime he wants without intervention from his superiors. We’re already losing key people about one a week including some people that have been there 20+ years. Time to pull the ejection handle and bail out.

[@asadb1990]

right on, people like bad bosses don't change. they become bosses by throwing everyone they know under the bus. and that gaslight don't work with. for me its a job. i don't care or get paid enough to care about the business beyond bare minimum to keep boss happy.

[@TheDpbundy39]

the 2 types of managers I cannot stand, the micro/macro manager and the passive aggressive manager.

[@MK-yl8xe]

Bad bosses are life stealers. They are basically unchangeable. They have their mindsets similar to that of psychopaths. Just a big shame to come across such a pityful human being, if there was such one.

[@blackstarkitty9387]

People also quit bad/toxic coworkers

[@RandomPerson-cc9mn]

I think he's got this in the wrong order. You should look for another job, then try all of these things. If for example you talk to your boss and work out the issues you have, you can just turn down an offer for another job. All of the things he suggests here are 10x less stressful when you know that you have something else if they don't work out.

[@shqa574]

You should not use the job offer as incentive to change the toxic boss. The only salvation to staying in the hell pit is if the toxic boss is terminated on demand.

[@Dearest_Kenyetta]

I've had to learn to do this with my current boss.... She is very reactive and tends to supervise with a spirit of intimidation and control. I have learned to keep my verbal interactions minimum and professional. I exhaust all other options before going to her. I do my work and stay consistent. I communicate through email 99% of the time. I have had to learn that her actions are a reflection of of her and not me. I become confident about my job along with remaining humble to learn more.... This way she can't lessen my value... Because I know my value. Most of all...... PRAYER is a must. Mostly for myself.

[@blktauna]

If you think other people care about you in the workplace, you are mistaken. They will forget you as soon as you or they leave. Also its demeaning to put up with boss nonsense. No free work. Don't quietly accept and keep your head down. Life is too short. I do agree that if you like the company, look inside that company, but be aware sometimes internal moves won't happen because no one wants to be seen as poaching. Also most will ask the boss' permission first. I've had them say no, then retaliate on my wanting to leave. The best advise is to do the best you can at your job while looking for a new one.

[@shqa574]

Yes! The current supervisor has to approve the transfer. That will be opportunity to put the nail in the coffin, and get you terminated. This happened to an employee who sat in my area. He was a very talented graphic artist, and he applied for a job in the animation division. His supervisor put an end to his career path, and fired him.

[@brandon-qc1ul]

@@shqa574 I know the feeling when having to deal with quote on quote difficult people with many kinds of attitude that just wants to make your job harder than it already is and sometimes one of those people ends up making the job itself frustrating not because of the job itself but the people you ware working with that don't understand the process of the work and sometimes does not appreciate the effort put into it and this is coming from a graphic designers. Well most people in the creative industry face those kind of things and sometimes is undervalued for their efforts. I may not be an a animator but i can say in the field of animation it is not an easy job to do if you seen some documentary videos on how much time and people took to produce good quality animation.

[@nia6849]

Nowadays bosses tend to hire boss assistants to cover themselves.

[@dat868]

Or the boss delegates to the employee things that they are responsible for so when things go wrong they can point the finger at someone else and protect themselves. I truly hate corporate America.

[@mtvisionary]

My problem with this show how Hr reps are always trying to convince workers to compromise and work with narcassitic or sociopathic boss and enduring the abuse instead of firing the bosses. Bad boss is 99% usually the case of a narcassitic boss. Maybe more investigations and taking it more seriously when employees complain about these issues could help a d retain good employees or better personality test before hiring. HR reps act like robots. 0 emotion, very black and white, un helpful. Narcassit and sociopaths should be banned from work places as bosses.

[@thundercricket4634]

A lot of people have the misconception that HR is there to help or to protect employees. HR is there to protect the company FROM the employees.

[@TheScienceNerddAkemi]

@Michael Turner That's my view on this situation as well. It's like the employees are expected to just shut up and take whatever treatment their boss gives them without reprimand or intervention on the boss's side. That's why I left my last job and started my own business. I refuse to bow down and take any old treatment from anyone, including supervisors or bosses.🤷🏾‍♀️

[@aldogutierrez8240]

Yes, you are right, for example, the advice to not put down your boss when quitting your job or not complaining too much. So this type of bad manager can freely go up to the career ladder. So narcissists, sociopath, psychopath, fury, and bootlicker bosses are at the top, except sometimes the founders who are more likely to be creative and nice persons. But he is completely right you can't change the world you have to adapt and fit

[@Jhayzer021]

@@thundercricket4634 This is true man, HR is not your friend.

[@ForgottenKnight1]

HR has zero power towards managers. If the manager is high enough the food chain of a company, he will get away even with doing illegal and unethical stuff. It usually takes a former or current employee to blow the whistle and make the shit explode and even then, they might do everything in their power to mitigate, diminish or simply swipe it under the rug.

[@mycatlovesme159]

My father is full Native American ,but I’m white . My supervisor didn’t believe me and said “ you look pretty white to me.” I tried unsuccessfully mentioning about tribal culture and no one believed me until I showed my tribal card.

[@doubledragon2074]

So many comments saying to get another job. It's not that easy if it were no one would be commenting here and this video wouldn't exist. It's like telling someone to calm down when they are upset

[@gusmonster59]

No. I am not going walk on eggshells for a job. Fire me or not. I will be gone soon enough anyway. I will work my ass off if I am treated fairly, but not for someone who thinks being an asshole is being a boss. All those 10 minutes adds up quickly to unpaid hours of work.

[@mwallace828]

I wholeheartedly agree. I to refuse to walk on eggshells that’s why everyone’s quitting their jobs at record-breaking speed

[@TimothyBlocker]

Amen. This was me with my last retail job. I refused to walk on egg shells for management. That's why me and management always butted heads. Because i refused to put up with bs especially when im doing more work than them.

[@donstewart368]

I met a dead line 2 weeks early once and my boss said well thats good but I dont like how you did it. LOL. I quit him shortly after that.

[@Jhayzer021]

If a Boss think bullying is a strong suit then its time to quit / resign, better work on a great environment than a toxic one.

[@shqa574]

An HR representative informed me that this Boss' style is called Rule by Intimidation. I recognized the sympton immediately on my next job.

[@jbb8261]

My last in person boss was AWFUL. He used to vent *every* problem in his marriage to me the second I got to work. And then if I skipped a happy hour to go yo the gym, I would come back and find ten texts asking me why I’m not a team player. Now I work completely remote. And my new boss is very laid back. I’ve also never met them nor will I and it’s a perfect situation for me after the toxicity I’ve dealt with.

[@chad3729]

" Not a team player " hahaha Btw NEVER give your contact information to mangers/ employees. Let them contact you through the company. Stay dangerous & have a stress free day....

[@jbb8261]

@@chad3729 I’m not taking blame for the fact that they had my number so they could contact me initially. My former boss abused that. I’m not in the wrong for being a job searcher and giving a company a basic way to reach me before I got hired. Thanks.

[@HelloForeignWorld]

Step 1: become (be) a key employee Step 2: convince few other key employees that the boss is an idiot (kind of easy) Step 3: quit Step 4: few more key employees quit Step 5: the boss is fired (or quits on their own) due to turnover of key employees Step 6: go back to the company on a much higher salary That is what I managed to do once 😎

[@treefrog1018]

...or look for a new job pronto. I'm the kind of person who let toxic people fork-off. Work is suppose to be something I love. Edit: I'd rather spend my life looking for the people who are not toxic to me rather than trade my work-happiness for money. *Runs off into the field*

[@minombredepila1580]

The last one is the best: find another job. I just moved from an incompetent boss and got a much better salary, better company and better expectations. Just live the person behind you and do not let the person mess with your professionalism. Some stupid companies do not get rid of incompetent bosses and they will pay the price.

[@SasquatchActualFitness]

Coworkers and HR in this situation and all situations aren't your friends so don't trust them.

[@harmonizedigital.]

A good boss is a very rare thing.

[@zb3485]

dont even bother working at places with those types of people...just quit, find a better work environment, ask for more money...dont become a robot, be yourself

[@bryguysays2948]

Unless you have a work "Contract" signed by you and your employer, you are basically a "Hired Mercenary" to do the job and get paid. You can be let go at any time and quit anytime. I've been saying this for many past years.

[@ForgottenKnight1]

No contract will protect you from being let go at any time. Unless you're part of some union and a collective contract, but that's a totally different story.

[@bryguysays2948]

@@ForgottenKnight1 If you have a contract that the other party violates, then yes, you can sue. I wasn't saying, you "couldn't be fired", I was stating that unless you have a contract, you an "At will Employee."

[@jasonong7097]

The most common method and often the last resort - QUIT.

[@kilovolt2494]

The answer is pretty short. If you tried everything and your boss is still making your work harder, you leave. That’s it.

[@Refundplease-Ihavetherec-gb2hj]

I left

[@LaCokaNostra81]

My last boss was horrible. I was being harassed by the supervisor, and when I told him, he would take his side all of the time.

[@genxingenyworld]

All I can say is thank you. I’ve watched so many videos on this topic, but this is the first I’ve watched with clear, actionable, realistic advice.

[@zohramartini9425]

this works in a Western setting where communication is still encouraged and rewarded but in East Asia, if you ask your boss what he is expecting from you, he will like you even less because they believe you should find the answer alone and that is the reason why you have been hired. Believe me, I talk from experience ^^

[@Omidan]

So basically do everything you can to appease them even at the detriment of your own mental health.

[@solegonz762]

Seriously, so challenging

[@dennismclaurin1487]

I'm my own boss. I just do what I'm supposed to do, as relates in Ephesians 6:5-8,and get the hell out. Those shitty, evil, perverse, adulterous bosses worship mammon, not God. I'd imagine there's more workplace horrors in effect, with the abomination that maketh desolate, taking over and being seated in authority.

[@JKL_04]

Exactly

[@shqa574]

Theorically, if the boss is paid $150K, and you are paid $40K, it is very unlikely you will win the war. My company had an annual Harassment seminar that was acknowledged and signed by every employee electronically. That did not deter the boss from assassinating me. Ironically, the first week I was hired, I found out that the company had a very bad morale problem. They took the entire company (...200 employees) on a weekend retreat a week into the job. Six months later, there was a corporation wide employee seminar/survey that was formulated around bad morale and harassment. Several years later, I was targeted for extinction.

[@rockstarofredondo]

Yeah, not worth it at all. Gotta get away from these people and environments.

[@libtucker]

Great video, great information. Very well put together. I wish I had of seen this when I was 21 and starting my career.

[@AnnMarieKing]

Unfortunately some toxic bosses have a very influential position within a business due to their hard results - as the good book says 'money answereth all things' - and even the most ethical companies are hard pressed to let go a manager who makes them money in a highly competitive marketplace. In situations like this, one's best bet is to do these three things: 1) Seek a departmental transfer if your skills are internally transferable, 2) seek a new job and 3) develop an additional stream or two of income so you have options.

[@ARichardP]

6:02 “You cannot trust the people you work with to keep their mouth shut.”

[@dennismclaurin1487]

There's plenty of Judases in the world 'these days ' I'm better off talking to myself

[@bigkingsha]

If you are in a toxic work environment you need a masterful, prompt, and elevated exit - NOT static coordinates and dodgy holding patterns. I've seen red carpets and silver platters get pissed on by bad bosses. The true face of most employment is basically an art of war. The only thing that can fix the ugliness is a new scenery!

[@compellingbutforgettable903]

My boss actively worked to get her supervisor removed from our department by manipulation and abuse. She also is emotionally incontinent and sometimes cries and alternatively screams uncontrollably at her employees; she's been sent home twice without pay for screaming at people.

[@blktauna]

if I were you I'd look for a new job. The fact that company has done nothing about this person says volumes.

[@solegonz762]

Make sure to tape your boss toxic behavior

[@LoesserOf2Evils]

Towards the end of my job under a bad boss, my boss and I began meeting regularly about department policy, upcoming changes, and so on. However, my boss was well known for misrepresentation of previous meetings. So the department secretary attended and took notes. It put my bad boss on notice that te could no longer misrepresent conversations. There was a witness and in a proceeding, formal or informal, legal or not-so-legal, internal or external, we both knew the witness would be called to testify or be disposed. I ended up leaving that job after a few months because it was untenable. The environment was so toxic I began mirandizing myself as I entered the organization’s property. I later learned my boss did have a spy on the staff. The spy ended out being driven out, too, several years after I was - by the same bad boss. Other staff I ran into over the years since then have told me that they could see what was happening to me but didn’t think it would happen to them. Until it did. Until the bad boss considered you a threat, you were okey. But no one ever figured out what constitutes a threat. And that was the worst thing about the bad boss.

[@mikoto7693]

It’s funny how much your gut instinct can save you even if you don’t know these things outright. Unfortunately in my last job I had the distinct misfortune of having not one, but two bad supervisors and distant and unhelpful managers. I should have known from my first day when I got yelled at in front of colleagues over, I kid you not, my facial expression. I should have known during the first five weeks that things weren’t going to go well when the other supervisor broke the law by effectively imprisoning me and another newbie at work and I had to find someone with appropriate security clearance to walk me out of the secure zone (pending my own security clearance.) But when something else happened that also broke the law and exposed me to potential danger then that’s when I knew I needed a contingency plan. So I discreetly made enquiries with another company that did the same work for other companies and discovered that they would be happy to have me. And thank goodness I did because the strain finally broke and I’m getting moved to the other company soon.

[@donaldknapik2706]

Bad bosses are cancer in a good organization and someone up the food chain needs to take the chemo. If they don’t, bail. It’s not worth the PTSD.

[@cathyzhang2769]

I thought i could file a complaint to HR. But HR is also a joke itself.

[@Codeaholic1]

A lot of these recommendations seem to assume a rational, good faith actor. If your boss is a narcissist, many are, then those expectations may not hold and things like reasoning with them, or asking for their expectations may just run you in circles. Having healthy boundaries, especially from day one, can insulate you from some of these bad behaviors, but other times its really a matter of document, insulate, or separate.

[@Codeaholic1]

@@financialconsultant7403 what's with the stock reply? It doesn't seem to fit here. Did you get hacked or something?

[@ALifeAfterLayoff]

KZbin is riddled with scammer accounts that impersonate content creators. Other than blocking them, there's not much I've been able to do.

[@lenac3587]

@@ALifeAfterLayoff Report to KZbin. It's tedious but slowly and surely.

[@Krystalwatchesvideos]

I am now expected to not only do my job, but also that of a colleague who is senior to me & on paternity leave until Jan. I’m underwater & my manager is constantly taking off on vacation. Never around. When he is working, he won’t provide me with constructive feedback, direction or any kind of mentorship. I’m quite literally on my own & failing. My boss will tell me things after the fact as if I should’ve known them. I can’t read his mind. Wtf. No win situation & I’m borderline burnt out. Started job hunting.

[@douglasjarnagan3835]

I had a truly bad boss some years back. And I mean BAD. Took all the maturity I could muster to leave on good terms. The key is getting out of there though.

[@bradthomas7933]

I find documenting my boss's behavior for a month or 2 & then waiting for a bigger accident gives me fuel to demand change when bringing it up to their boss or defend myself when with HR dealing with a he said - she said.

[@thecongo8505]

Do you truly think HR would side with you?

[@Gill12283]

I used to work in higher education administration and my boss there was a lovely but he was lazy, which caused two big problems. Firstly, he would never take responsibility for anything. Secondly, if he could get rid of work by farming it out to another department, he would do exactly that. He didn't seem to realise that if people don't use your services, you don't have a job.

[@watamutha]

Depends on the place...some businesses don't find out for decades.

[@Nadia-qm4jd]

I started a new job recently after being in a very toxic work environment for 4 years. The first 3 years my direct boss wasnt toxic but the last year was and the ceo's always made the culture toxic and the way i was let go im pursuing a claim with the eeoc for the first time in my life. Anyway, with my new job its very VERY hard not to vent to co-workers about the ptsd from my last job when my current boss triggers me. Im struggling but I'm trying to not vent anymore because i know it isnt good.

[@nunyafawkingbiz]

I had a lazy boss who straight up lied to me! When he was lazy it was fine ! When he lied to me was when I knew I had to make a plan ! I just quit lol !

[@AgathaTsing]

Hate those sensitive and insecure bosses, they are so toxic

[@Piccolo_Re]

How do bad bosses even get into leadership positions. It’s clear they are not good leaders, but somehow they get high ranking positions and then treat everyone so terrible the employees leave, but it should be the bad boss getting forced out to leave. How can we as employees push out a bad boss instead of us losing our jobs?

[@NeilParmar-sw5yv]

I've had enough of them, I hope I don't get anymore but there's no guarantees.

[@jams9705]

Self love is the way out soooo....save your self the grief and find a new job asap...

[@shqa574]

Trying to find another job in the company may backfire. The job transfer has to be approved by your current supervisor. If the supervisor is trying to make you quit, he(...she) will give HR a negative assessment, and that will start the termination ball rolling, so to speak.

[@maskmanfive3774]

If we just give the boss enough hypertension and cause a stroke .... Then ... No boss ... Win win

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

Lol!

[@scm24]

My experience w bad bosses is that their peers & higher ups know, they just cant do much about this persons leadership shortcomings... Also, you should have a sense of who/what youre dealing w before you accept a job offer...if you get this bad boss assigned to you after youre already there, then jump ship...

[@MrOsasco]

The lying boss type is easy to deal with. 1. Lying bosses are not ashamed when they , so pointing out their lyes will not make any difference. 2. Be careful when answering their questions because they lie even when asking questions. 3. Don't talk to them too much. Keep the conversation to the minimum necessary because lying bosses are always testing you and have no interest in helping you. 5. Be patient and professional because the company will find out your boss is a lier sonner or later.

[@asadb1990]

to be honest no respect to the channel, but life is too short to work unpaid overtime on salary while also dealing with a terrible boss. if a boss is giving you trouble, you either try to friend his boss and out him or you move to another company. people don't change specially for an underling. because there is no loyalty from company to employee and between employee to employee.

[@PrinceIro925]

Bosses expect loyalty from their underlings, but employees are not to expect the same in return. I had many jobs where I was treated like a warm body and that was it.

[@asadb1990]

@@PrinceIro925 yeah i smh and smirk everytime my bosses say "we need to "hustle" and go above and beyond for this project."

[@PrinceIro925]

@@asadb1990 Worst part is I was let go from a previous job cause I couldnt handle the work load of five people, and my replacement was supposed to be my help

[@asadb1990]

@@PrinceIro925 yeah i feel you happened at a job i joined right after being laid off during the start of pandemic. the first red flag was a list of duties 5 pages long. i figured its a small company and they had multiple duties at various times. turned out it was all duties at all times. they didn't have my computer ready for over a month. and they did my job manually on pen and paper. and when they finally brought it in on the last day it was a desktop. i was like wtf. and then they give me ton of work on last day and work me through my lunch and then hand me my notice 15min after work hours. and they got offended i rushed out the door. they tried to ask my issues. i told them i was already looking for something else because they were in the Stone ages and i was not gonna work more than 40h. im not a slave. if i had any other job i wouldn't have worked there.

[@PrinceIro925]

@@asadb1990 Same the work load was heavy, on top of that the site didnt have a tech to do the work for nearly 4 months so things were pilling up. With no tech onsite do to the pandemic the tasks and the tickets pilled up. When I finally started and was allowed on site I had to sort through the mess my predacessor left me, and juggle new tasks as they came in. I was working solo for 10 months before they hired a helper for me. Which later turned into being my replacement. I was given a Pip with no evidence or plan for improvement. Not even a week later I was terminated. Not given a reason why, my only theory was my pip was me signing my own pink slip.

[@Artisbeauty22]

So I'm gonna be moving to a different state sometime this month and my last day is Sunday on the 4th, but I'm considering not going back to my job tomorrow, because my manager has already replaced my positions with another co-worker. I'm not one to just quit, but this manager is a horrible manager. I've been working for this company for about a year or so, and this manager is probably the worst manager I've worked for at this company. Shes full of drama and has already made several people quit and she's also fired some people as well. Recently she's been getting onto me for doing the job the way I was trained to do it saying "whoever trained you didn't do it the right way etc.." so she's telling me that the four different managers who have trained me for my position, have worked there for YEARS have all trained me wrong (not to mention one of the managers is the district manager 🤔) I know some people are gonna tell me to take it to the manager above her, but it won't do anything. It's like I said I'm not one to bail out of a bad situation, but she is just unbearable to deal with. My anxiety has been going haywire because I've been biting my tongue not to tell her off on some things that I know she'll get in trouble for. She hasn't just micromanaged me either she's been doing it to people who have worked there for 10+ years. Her attitude is horrible she's yelled at other workers in front of everyone several times, I'm sure even customers have heard her out in the lobby. I've seriously questioned whether or not she has a mood disorder or something because she can go 0 to 100 at the snap of a finger.

[@deborahclarke1875]

This year 2021 I dodged the horrible, fake, uptight Manageress. The last one was an ice Queen, never took a break, always in a meeting. She sneakily called Agency behind my back to day she didn't think I was a good fit. I was just thinking NO LOVE you are not a good fit for me.

[@image30p]

In a way I don't agree with the "don't vent to coworkers" concept. Because this is how abusive behavior continues to exist. It's why we had the metoo movement. I think this is all good advice except for that part. If you'll think about the concept of Glassdoor, you'll see that airing out the dirty laundry has actually been very successful. It's kind of like Rate My Professors. It provides a level of accountability. Everyone should be accountable. If a "boss" is incapable of explaining expectations and managing availability of talent, they probably don't have the necessary skills to perform. In other words we want to see leadership speak from a position of expert power not legitimate power.

[@djokotriono7787]

Years ago I've come to a situation where I have a voice recorder in my pocket just so I can hit it on cue when and if the bb attack, just so I can collecting evidence. I never got to use them though. After 9 months of episodes of depressions and sleeping apnea the bb suddenly out of the blue changed demeanor even strangely being too nice. I actually don't know what happened but I suspect 5:40 someone else reported the bb behavior and he got ... corrected by higher hands.

[@taebby78]

I had only 2 decent bosses in the 7 jobs I've had, and those 2 were only part time jobs. The last boss I had (a huge corporate company) yelled and swore and micromanaged me, and I was just the front desk secretary. It was a lot of inappropriate stuff that I can't write or else my comment would be a novel. Only a few months into the job, I began exploring options for other departments and was refused. I was told to just hang in there. When pandemic shutdowns moved our office further away, I had to quit because I didn't have transportation to the new location and the company didn't allow me to work at home. Anyway -- Do you have any advice for those of us who have dealt with chronic bad bosses? I'm quite reluctant to take any job because I'm scared of getting into another bad situation. My passion is writing, and I have some things completed, but in reality that won't pay the bills. I'm kinda stuck in secretary limbo just for money. But if you have advice on how to move on from bad boss after bad boss, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks for your videos!

[@DirtyCommunist]

I'm deep in this boat. What is it with bosses? My last one tried to force me to meet up during a lockdown. The one before that would literally yell and bully every moment they were in the office, death threats and all. The one before that pulled me aside to tell me they just weren't going to pay me. I have no motivation to get work because I don't know what a healthy workplace is like. I'm extremely good at getting work, I've even taught it as part of a job, but I've never been in a workplace where I wasn't in danger.

[@melinoesedah9762]

I recommend Jennifer Brick's channel. I found her by accident and have gained useful knowledge about toxic workplaces and what to do.

[@c.f.6005]

Your writing will pay the bills! Also teaching others the skill you have can pay the bills whether in person or through online courses. Research copywriting opportunities. Resume writing. Just to share some ideas! Don't stay discouraged 🙂

[@StillJess-wg6yb]

One thing I’ve found is that bad, toxic, micromanager, power trip bosses prey on those who show fear, timid ness, etc. Be confident and look them in the eye and speak assertively as well. Starting at the interview stage so that they read your personality. And always always let them know immediately after an incident- that it was inappropriate and you don’t tolerate disrespect. We literally have to stand up and advocate for ourselves!! And maintain our dignity and self respect!!

[@MsSemki]

I've been to the same situation. I think the way to get out of the toxic cycle is to ensure you don't accept a crappy job. The good part about it is that bad bosses give themselves away either at the interview or first few weeks. Your job is to recognize toxicity and leave immediately (or start actively looking for another job). It's also good to check with yourself how do you feel about the job ad, about the phone conversation arranging the interview, about the interview, and the interviewer. Notice if something doesn't feel right and give it some thought. Be honest with yourself. Make a list for yourself as to what you are looking in the job and see if the job matches it. Also know what exactly you will not stand for.

[@faciemus5725]

I have no patience anymore, if you have to do this it's time to leave.

[@Refundplease-Ihavetherec-gb2hj]

That’s right be like a ball and bounce out of there.

[@Miko_of_the_North]

I was working for a company and I could tell that the foreman disliked me and was under paying me after 3 years I asked the a 4 dollar/hr raise to meet the market median. I knew he wouldn't give me it but I didn't even get a counter offer. I asked why and was told that is was because I asked for too high of an increase to start off. Because I knew that it is what was going to happen. I had a job offer already and then gave my 2 weeks notice. The offer was for the $4/hr that I wanted so I worked out.

[@lindaruss3772]

I could read these comments forever! There are some craaaazy people out there, and sadly, they’re RUNNING things!!

[@ryanbarker3978]

6:00 Good lord have I learned this lesson. The ones that want to be close friends are the trickiest to navigate.

[@charlesedwards4160]

In other words if the Grim Reaper's doing the rounds, don't give the bastard some hot curry.

[@iamnoone705]

This is hard to achieve when you work in an unprofessional environment

[@MH-bx9fk]

Basically according to this video, you should always bow to your boss even when they often use and abuse you .. It's that '' slaves for money mentality,'' that I don't like.. Working people need to learn how to manage their money correctly so they won't be slaves and used and abused by the boss.

[@unknowninfinium4353]

Hey Brian thanks for the video, take care of yourself dude.

[@joannevans9629]

No, actually, my experience has been that if they decide they don't like you for whatever reason it's time to go. They are not likely to change their minds. Additionally, if they use any kind of negative label like abrasive - well, it's time to leave.

[@karhukivi]

The CEO of a UK company I was discussing a possible agency with stated "you will be expected to give 110% commitment to us". I replied, "that's impossible, you will never find anyone!". The promised luncheon meeting was immediately cancelled and I was very pleased, he wasn't....

[@SeanManks]

Just change jobs. There is no use to justify in front of a bad boss, they just are not going to change the perception they have about you. Especially In this pandemic era, one thing I came to know is me and my family health and life is more important than any high paying job or kissing ass of bitch of a boss. There are plenty of jobs at-least in USA that one can take and earn with respect. God Bless.

[@PrinceIro925]

My last job over worked me then complained that the 50 tickets and 30 requests were not getting done quick enough. I was the only tech at my location until they hired a second person who would later be my replacement.

[@rachaelsills9010]

if you are still looking for other work and just can't take it anymore, just sit back and watch. eventually the boss or the company will do something illegal or immoral and boom, quit with cause and file for unemployment bennies.

[@pamelamays4186]

Working in childcare I ran into a lot of bad bosses.

[@mwallace828]

Which is the main reason for the teacher shortage

[@ecaldwell9]

How is any of this my problem?! I feel you catering to the bad behavior MAKES IT WORSE. They wouldn’t tolerate it from you, nor should we tolerate misconduct from them!

[@Refundplease-Ihavetherec-gb2hj]

Exactly. It’s ENABLING the behavior. I don’t applaud wicked behavior.

[@Krystaldoll282]

I’m being trained by a toxic boss, and to be honest I don’t recall ever having one like this ever in my life they here I am I was mandatory transferred for the companies needs. They can’t get certain positions filled, and they selected a few of us out of the positions we were in and moved us, my previous job my previous job supervisors. I was successful there. I was happy there and my supervisors really didn’t wanna see me leaving the love for me to come back now. I’m in a position where the supervisor have he discourages questions doesn’t really seem to care about that. This is all brand new to me that the work I’m learning now is not the same as I had before and it doesn’t really want to train meis very very annoyed when I make mistakes when it’s a job that I was told I would have approximately 4 to 6 months to get a reasonable handle on it and now they wanna do secret visits on me to see how much I know what can I do?

[@gsf4lyf]

Some great advice, thank you

[@ShacklefordR]

I think there are Chernobyl-level bad bosses mentioned in the video, then there are types of bosses who are sort of benign bad bosses. Don't get me wrong, these types of leaders still drive people to leave anyways... People who were great individual contributors rising to become people managers whilst having no skillsets in being a leader that manages people

[@marksage5722]

Kissing their a$$ is not an acceptable solution.

[@Refundplease-Ihavetherec-gb2hj]

You got that right!!!

[@AlejandroFredes]

Hello Bryan! Amazing content. I really appreciate the time and effort you put into helping us. I have a question if you don't mind. Since my last interview was 8 years ago: Can you make a video that describes what an interview roughly looks like? I mean, for example, the order of the questions and how long should I take to answer each one. Thanks!

[@ALifeAfterLayoff]

I cover this in my training course The Ultimate Job Seeker Bootcamp. :)

[@Luke_SkyWalk3r]

My supervisor does blow at work, company doesn't care (about anything). Currently using the freedom/lack of supervision to study, while I work. Going to transition into an entry level IT role/help desk.

[@donp.8172]

I had a bad boss who obviously hated me but I never could figure out why,I wound up telling him to fu@# off & I quit without giving any notice, I never had trouble finding another job, as a LTL big rig driver employers seem to care more about qualifications, driving and safety record than opinions of former @holes.

[@robertjones7327]

Boss asked me to give him a strategy for moving to electronic systems (I have 25 years experience designing and implementing such systems)… I asked if I am empowered to actually test them - he said I was empowered to ask questions. I’ve started my personal items out

[@cchoi108]

It seems like these tips are for all work situations. Not just toxic bosses. Even if you have a good boss, you should do all these things.

[@JustinRCampbell88]

This guy has really great advice and a nice show. Haha his comment section is a mess because he gets the most bitter people on the internet lol I'm one of those people

[@marie882]

I was physically assaulted by a manger on three separate occasions. Contacted the head of HR. All they were able to do was send said manager to another department. I also had a customer hit me closed handed on the lower back