The Cafe - One state, two states or even three states?

[@dizhar8888]

This is the first time I heard the Palestinians having a serious conversation about the PLO. I hope more of this type of dialogue continues.

[@inventionunique3693]

The PLO was replaced by the PA. The PA's financing and diplomatic permission is provided by the US and Israel so they are unable to truly represent our population.

[@millevenon5853]

@@inventionunique3693 do you want a one state solution?

[@SeekTheTruthAndTruth]

After watching this i have deep Respect for Cafes🤣🤣Thanks Mehdi , You are always good to listen :)

[@Dakini31]

The open air prison cafe 🙄

[@Delta4ms]

These discussions are excellent. Now, could we gather together a group of informed Syrians with different views and have a frank but civil discussion about what is going on in their country?

[@HaHaLooLoo]

we need to see this

[@ianl.7545]

Yes. They're not brainless savages. They're human beings.

[@runningcommentary2125]

What happened in Syria is the fault of a single moron named Bashar Al Assad.

[@cpeigney94]

One state: possible? What makes you think Israelis will accept that?

[@harlanrifkind6925]

I would accept tht as long as it’s one nation tht preserves our identities as Israelis and Palestinians so basically 2 states one nation

[@harlanrifkind6925]

N that’s not to maintain any superiority over Palestinians it’s bc I don’t think Israelis will have an issue sharing land w Palestinians they will have an issue sharing and giving up their identities so will Palestinians our identity is very important to both of us we want tht individuality as people while being able to share a homeland w one another

[@Chilailli]

It's not about Israel.

[@OryanNir]

I am an Israeli and support One democratic state for all, not all of us put zionism over basic human rights

[@joellopes3934]

Do you still maintain the same opinion after two years and 7 October?

[@CoreyGilShusterAskProject]

Wow. Amazing how you can point to Israel for everything and all self-criticism stops. There is no clear indication of what is the objective of the struggle, which land is occupied, what people are represented, how Israelis fit into this, how is Israel profiting from the occupation, etc. it is all vague generalized blaming. Problem solving involves looking at specifics and good analysis of all the issues. Not just blaming Israel.

[@edenfinch5299]

Great discussion, thanks mehdi.

[@feedcount]

This debate should continue today!!!

[@Delta4ms]

Thanks just watched it. A lot of ideas were expressed and I think they should do it again. The same people too.

[@AustralianNeoCon1]

I don't think so. Opinion polls are pretty clear, its the young Palestinians that still want a two state solution, the young Israelis, and even the old, have always been willing to accept a two state solution. Look up "do you want two state solution", the guy interviews young Palestinians, most of them, I think all of them, want a one-state solution, meaning this conflict will go on for a much more time.

[@gameking50P]

however much the palestinians dont like israel, the only way for them to move forward is to actually engage with israel and to negotiate a full peace treaty. End off! The palestinians also need to understand that you dont have to like any country to sign a deal, you just need to be pragmatic

[@dencheruiyot]

I really like this serious debate. It has moved on from the blame game to a solution!! Wonderful !!! May God bless you and may he bring peace in the Middle East.

[@drabunafiz]

I believe that khaled represents the opinion of young palestinians And i wonder what has happened to him as he expressed the real situation

[@derisme1987]

that already happened last year. Ruma Amin hosted that discussion and it was a disaster. everyone talking over each other and constant interruptions. one guest walked off the set.

[@Bavafa1]

A fantastic conversation

[@abyhjp666]

Disappointed there’s no actual plan or strategy to confront the occupation on the Palestinian side.

[@fuzzyone99]

This was a very interesting exhibition in how no one is responsible for anything. Happy Festivus. The Airing of Grievances will now commence!

[@greendome8732]

Get rid of Hamas, Fatah and give the Palestinians a state of their own governed by educated Palestinians living in the west to return home and finally the international community together with the UN to declare Jerusalem as an International City for followers of all Abrahamic religions to equally share and enjoy......but will that happen, probably not.

[@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt]

Where is the young guy to the left ?They have replaced him.Why ?

[@Mindfultranslations]

it makes no sense: build a homeland to protect your people, then treat others the way that caused you to flee in the first place . palestinians too must accept that might doesn’t equal right ; especially when you don’t have any. i wish both parties empathy and compassion for each other.

[@bamainatlanta]

Why are Palestinians the only people on earth expected to just sit down and take it when they’re being oppressed?

[@fh7277]

One state is the way forward. But administrative and executive role should be with the Jews for the sake of state stability and for greater good of the world.

[@cpeigney94]

36:55 GREAT POINT, non-convincing comebacks.

[@sarokuti]

The mood seems to have changed slightly

[@eljumaidilbinahmad5403]

To my brother and sister palestinians, please always cherish the "oneness" of God for it is a symbol that wherever you are, and whatever you do, always act as "One." We Malaysians, always support and always pray for you.

[@simonmeier8799]

If you compare sabah and ramallah, please pray for yourself first😉

[@adrl66]

This is a good conversation, I want to translate it, so many Israelis will be able to view it. If the publisher of the film reads this message - please contact me

[@adrl66]

@Greg majority of human kind are speaking Chinese. Do you?

[@PianoSteve222]

As per Carolyn Glick - one state !

[@shainazion4073]

Mamoud Abbas is in the 18th year of his 4 year term. This is the government that they want to rule a country.

[@Shivam-5]

They will never talk about that, Mr. Mahmoud Abbas owns 50 million private jet, and lives in luxurious mansion. But ordinary Palestinians are dying every day.

[@billatrust]

Mehdi Hassan was fabulous ! proud to be your follower Brother

[@messilionel4604]

Mohamed Mufrick bro, is Mahdi suni or shia?

[@sayemsahadath9120]

Is it really matter?

[@mab7727]

*70 Years since the occupation of their territories.

[@Randall2023]

Dauphin River First Nation Manitoba Canada 🇨🇦

[@elisecruz827]

You were right then and you are righteous now,. Wishing you the best in 2024 and far from western media moguls that tarnish your excellent carreer in journalism.

[@WangChangye]

The Palestinian lady who lived in Israel said two different times that she had no one to represent her. But is it not true that Palestinians living within Israel have the right to vote? It must be, because on the previous program they had an Arab lady who was a member of the Knesset. I don't think this lady is being completely honest.

[@pietdezwart2271]

34:00 he says it like it is. a 2-state solution is not possible anymore. he spoke of 500K settlers. by now there are 700K settlers. it is utopia to believe that they will simply all leave. its not gonna happen. so all there is now on the table is a 1-state solution with 1 nationality or a 1 state solution with 2 nationalities, where the 2nd nationality controls an autonomous region

[@brendonfernandes2877]

One state with one person one vote will never ever happen. Jews wanted a state of their own and now that they got one they will never go back to having no state of their own.

[@shainazion4073]

There are already 3 states, Israel, Gaza,and Jordan, are the Arabs going to give up 1 state?

[@shehabmasri2491]

It used to be one state 1967-1993. I$rael does not want to consider Palestinians citizens because all they want is a state for jews

[@itayelkoubi]

Probably because they are all high ranking officials or have very official/ professional jobs that have something to do with the media.

[@thomasellner6331]

There are no '' OCCUPIED TERRITORIES '' Arabs started the 1967 war !

[@jxixikiki2374]

what's point of having two states or three states solution that last for centuries, if one united country between Palestine and Israel can resolve long lasting conflict that Pro-Growth in the region. If there is ever time for unification, it is time now.

[@MegaKees88]

@zaxx19 If you consider the people who have been living here for centuries settlers , what does that make the European colonialists who invaded Palestine decades ago ? Their president was born in Poland !!

[@aidenwalsh4320]

Learning my history is brutal as an American and it's nessasary. The further back I go and the more nuances I discover around this conflict the more I shake my head and understand the bulk of my political science education is hypocrisy as the west funds the occupation of Palestine and is green lighting the actions right now.

[@aidenwalsh4320]

Very informative and helpful ❤

[@golonawailus4312]

9 years later, the world is in deeper chaos of its own that even Palestine won’t raise eyebrows

[@savagervle]

Its a very straight forward situation- there needs to be a balance between Palestinian freedom and Israel's security concerns. It appears that the Palestinian leadership, enjoys delaying the peace process, as it benefits their own corruption and greed. Eventually, the Palestinians will demand that their leadership abandon their violent charter against Israel, and when that happens... they will have their state.

[@runningcommentary2125]

The PA is an instrument of the Israeli state. It’s basically just another Israeli ministry. Israel taxes the Palestinians and then gives the PA the taxes knowing they are a bunch of corrupt thieves who will squander it.

[@RomanGolubev_A]

Consensus between various factions of the Palestinians is jyst impossible to achieve, so if that's a condition for having an election, PA will be waiting forever.

[@coakz8856]

Coffee (y) it can lead to peace

[@Aricboccara]

An ocean of words in a desert of ideas....

[@CharlesLuckyLuci]

How can you make peace with someone who says "I dont want 22% of the land I want Haifa, Jaafo (in short all of it) " life is about compromises, how many wars it will take you to understand that.

[@praesodym6117]

To be honest: For an occupied sate, they are living pretty good.

[@praesodym6117]

@Hamad Al-Shebani No. I did not say they are not occupied, just that they live a pretty decent life. I also think many know that life would not get better if the Israelis left the country completely. If you ask arab Israelis, most of them say they would not like to live under an arab regmie. Ah yes, and one more thing: I think you are stupid.

[@proronen]

Because its BS they say around the world for sympathy and money from you for terror 😂😂😂

[@MICMICTHE]

This is the problem, they prefer to hurt israel than to benefit their people

[@danieldboyharper7414]

I think this guy is a good journalist. I disagree with him a lot, but I still think he has good points at times.

[@MegaKees88]

Just like the Lebanese and Tunisians speak French so well ,remember we were occupied by Britain.

[@helcium_nz]

I wonder how a conversation like that happened about 1400 years ago when the Muslims conquered the Holy Land and eventually the Arabization was established by superseding the language, culture, and even the religion of its native people, as their language, the Aramaic, had to give way to Arabic and Christianity was being replaced by Islam. Did they have the same kind of conversation? I just wonder ...

[@슬라바우크라이나헤로]

Spoiler alert. Literally every country on earth was created through conquest and ethnic cleansing. It is simply the fact that we are trying to change this in the modern day so that we can end this cycle

[@wildlettuce]

i have two questions for you: 1. why haven't the palestinians create a state between 1948-1967 (no occupation, no settlements)? 2. seeing that palestinians dont have the capacity to maintain/create functional state institutions, what do you think will happen if israel pulled out (including all jewish settlements) from the west bank?

[@bman342a]

Between 1948 and 1967, Gaza was occupied by Egypt. And the West Bank was occupied by Jordan. So there was indeed occupation during that period, it just wasn't by Israel.

[@javy1852]

@@bman342a why didn’t those Arab countries work with the Palestinians to creat a state? That was their chance. People love to blame Israel but the Arab states are responsible for not having a Palestinian state

[@shainazion4073]

The Palestinians have a state, it is called Jordan.

[@MegaKees88]

@peacefulgreentea The Israeli greediness is the reason peace is impossible to achieve

[@erichitter1025]

THE WORLD KNOWS THAT THERE WAS NEVER A PALESTINIAN PEOPLE NOR A STATE.. IN THE STATE OF ISRAEL..

[@mohamedmohamud1523]

thank you mahdi hasan

[@expand9487]

You guys are just talks....Israel is eating the pizza while you are taking about dividing the pizza.

[@johnfelman5117]

Ramallah is nice So much for being like Rohingyas

[@marksimons8861]

Are they all agreed that Palestine is amongst the worst in the region?

[@salmaalmeahlky126]

I wonder why

[@runningcommentary2125]

I had this bizarre dream where someone suggested a four state solution where Israel gets partitioned into secular and Orthodox states alongside Gaza and the West Bank. I have very weird dreams sometimes. Anyway, one state is best.

[@DucadiBorgogna_]

One state solution, they are crazy

[@Clemsontg123]

Gazze ve Batı Şeria'daki Filistinli kardeşlerimizin haklarını korumanın yanında Kudüs'ü ve Mescid-i Aksa'yı asla unutmuyoruz.

[@samadkohi9166]

As always great interview by Mehdi Hassan. Hopefully both sides can come to the conclusion that they both are loosing right now. They have so much potential and this is unfortunately forgotten in the decision making.

[@rajivchaudhari]

Bull! Mehdi hasan is the most biased and useless journalist on the planet. Should be thrown out of a window ! A shame to global journalism!

[@sabith_saqafi]

One State Not Possible........

[@MrApplewine]

The Palestinians should form a state in Jordan, that is where they are strongest and where the most Palestinians live.

[@DTL9164]

There were no Israelis or Jews in this debate. That is apartheid!

[@슬라바우크라이나헤로]

Its a discussion by Palestinians regarding the PALESTINIAN authority. What are you on about?

[@TheSm1thers]

One state is the only solution that makes sense and could actually work somewhat.

[@johnfelman5117]

RUBBISH ONE STATE IS DECEPTIVE AND FANCIFUL

[@oyyosef]

At least pa officials will sit calmly with critics, more than any Israeli official can do

[@priyankparikh2666]

There is no state called palestine. It is called jordan

[@ahmadrama9802]

There should be a state Called a Palestine if the people decided to call Palestine. It is not your business to determine what a state should be called or to whom it should belong.

[@GregoryWonderwheel]

The Palestinians will wait forever if they wait for Israel approval. The only response now is a three state solution. The people of Gaza must make their Declaration of Independence, hold a constitutional convention, elect a government under the Constitution and send out the call for diplomatic recognition, all without waiting or pausing for Israel to approve anything. When Gaza declares Independence that will encourage the West Bank to also declare their Independence. Only by the Palestinians declaring Independence and setting up their constitutional governments can the process move forward.

[@israel9652]

There is no Palestine

[@MegaKees88]

@zaxx19 Arafat's parents were Palestinian and Abbas was born in Safad :)

[@1280honey]

One state period

[@awakeningthespine]

the young guy who left for the second round needs to shut up and listen

[@koioo2]

wy was there 10 years of suicide bomps and rockets from the gaza

[@fuzzyone99]

All this complaining is tiresome. I can't keep track of who's complaining about what. I'm worried that everyone at that table will pull a knife out on each other.

[@oseebarose79]

Good move

[@SeekTheTruthAndTruth]

Mehdi mehdi mehdi ... Lots of love man :)

[@kevinrogers2774]

Stopped watching at the statement “illegal occupation”. Get your facts straight if you want to be taken seriously.

[@슬라바우크라이나헤로]

Tf is it then? The UN has passed multiple resolutions regarding the legality of the occupation. Are you dense?

[@cpeigney94]

Poor guy from the PA, they were really after him.

[@bobsmith1561]

This was a really healthy conversation .

[@MrJerome55555]

Three states

[@rajasingammuthusamy959]

One state, two systems administration.

[@rdacademic1635]

Yes one state and one identity under whatever name but sort of fully federal administrative state..

[@rdacademic1635]

And also with no Jewish or Muslim privileges.

[@iscquery]

not going to work. cuz the arab world nearby is at bay cuz of israel's military might. once it becomes one state the same problems will crop up again.

[@edenfinch5299]

Create a new political party

[@luisitomachado1]

One State? Possible.It is what is now! Two State? This is hot potatoe for Palestinias.That why they never go for. Three State? This is unthinkable too. Now,my opinion:None! Good luck!

[@c.wdervin5987]

2 states 1 nation… 1 capital

[@kavehmehrpour6613]

I am writing to you as an Iranian who watched my wonderful nation to fall into poverty and millions of my country men and women, and thousands of the citizens of the world were murdered because of the dictatorship who governs my country by force. Dear Palestinians, look around your region, you have Syria, Iraq, Egypt and Jordan and Israel. Your elected governments are Hamas and PLO. Why don't you for once choose peace and live with the best government in the middle east? God has so much land, what did Hamas do to Gaza after Israel left? What will you become if Israel disappears? You will have another Syria or Iraq or another Islamic republic of Iran, which will be called Palestine.

[@slovokia]

If the Palestinians ruling other Palestinians cannot protect the human rights of their subjects from themselves how is more conflict with Israel going to solve the problem of creating a functioning Palestinian state / society?

[@derisme1987]

glad you got something out of it. i didnt, it was very poorly moderated.

[@guzepppi]

IZRAPAL WITHOUT THE ILLEGAL APARTHEID AND FOREIGN INTERFERENCE IS THE ANSWER. 🇲🇹❤️☘ XIXXA

[@simonmeier8799]

I‘m for Tunmaltia

[@jerrygotti8433]

Open where guy on walls at water sale habit

[@mrbojangles8133]

3 states + Jerusalem as something else under UN rule

[@hagerwan5223]

Linah Alsaafin the young women with a headscarf has actually lived in the U.K

[@Dr.Geeoff.99789]

whoa... this person blamed everything on palestinian. There are thousands of other entities that are more capable of doing that than the Palestinian.

[@brianmorgan2725]

i'm talking about what you just said. i could be wrong but i get the imprssion that the younger generation of israeli's might be a more liberal and be more accommodating to compromising with the palestenians. the palestenians were the ones who didn't want to compromise before but now the roles are reversed.

[@skapunk7024]

and of course you wonder why the little bit peace in the Middle East never

[@e.z.6916]

I love this, the throwing of a legislator out of a window, well, these situaltions are overblown. Really? And the best yet, all the corruption, all the violence by PA, etc. is the fault of Israel. Can Palestinians ever take

[@williamemaloveretaki7439]

There needs to be some give and take between the Israelies, the and neighbouring countries to redraw the borders and establish a new state for Palestine. there' s syrian, jordan, and Egypt...

[@koioo2]

The flag is a Pan-Arab flag same as Jordan cosmetic change a democratic state no a Jewish democratic sate in what state do yuou want to transform it

[@MichaelSmith42]

One state, like South Africa

[@priyankparikh2666]

South Africa had islamic terrorist groups like hamas?

[@gerritgeibeb8554]

Opportunitic USA, Brittain and Israel is now currently against the wall. Refusal of right of return of refugees, Jerusalem dispute etc are current problems. Imagine total disappearance of 1967 borders ie future Palestinian state and only Israel state is left, still unequal birthrate between Palestinian and Israelis will remain a headache if former is absorbed and become Israeli citizens. Two state solution is the only costly option left.

[@shainazion4073]

There is a Palestinian state that has 77% of the Mandate lands, it is across the river. Opportunistic? Israel barely has 20% of the original land intended for the Jewish state.

[@sue3519]

Israel has already swollen Palestine and the Palestinians.. the solution is to give the Palestinians their right to live in Israel as equal citizen and abandon the apartheid discriminatory mentality and practices

[@MrPatbradley22]

you think that israelis haven't done those same things?