All By Mysellf (Live)--Johnny Thunders and the Heartbreakers

January 8, 1983. From PAUL TSCHINKEL'S INNER'TUBE as taped at CBGB's. Billy Rogers on drums. From the Heartbreakers interview with Walter Lure and Billy Rath:
• 1984 The Heartbreakers...

[@joshstanley3693]

And the award for the highest person ever goes to Johnny Thunders

[@dalakerdaniel9240]

Yeah mate may they all Rest in Powder ☠️💣☠️

[@DennisMHenderson]

thankk

[@leahflower9924]

What about billy? Dude had that I can fly 🕊️ look

[@j.c7719]

Poor Johnny Thunders had really bad substance problems but he also wrote, played and sang my favourite song ever.

[@geraldburns-dg4rt]

must've been proper coke by the way his jaw's-a'going!

[@screamingtrees9619]

The way Johnny comes in with that heavy riff is sick. Great tone

[@sgt.thundercok4704]

Sick person. Sad to watch.

[@GoodbyePanama]

All by myself, indeed - Walter is the only surviving Heartbreaker.

[@SidVicious1207]

GoodbyePanama Unless you count Richard Hell that is.

[@Angel-cd5qq]

R.I.P. Walter Lure . now they're all together again 👑💔👑

[@jamiewillis3740]

Richard Hell still alive ....only a Heartbreaker for a short time

[@soulCracka1]

Wow. This is hard to watch. I am a recovering addict and being that wrecked doesn't even look appealing. Fuck that lifestyle. JT had talent, he didn't need drugs.

[@precisionbrown6829]

We all make mistakes

[@soulCracka1]

I know. It just saddens me because I'm a fan of his music and he seemed like a cool dude.

[@pgroove163]

what did he need? what do you need ? it is what it is....

[@andremesquita9317]

Ed D The death cause was an OD of methadone. He was trying to quit heroin, and meth was a substitute. Sad.

[@mattfury6173]

Specky Cyclist : Advanced leukemia is what did him in. New Orleans PD isn't big on investigating dead junkies in hotel rooms and what got 'em dead.

[@NDWoj]

Just watched the Dolls Kirshner video before this...it is hard to watch as posted below. And Walter did sing on several LAMF tracks.

[@Mrmanmischief177]

Great footage

[@scuddahey8361]

I loved the Heartbreakers, but that was just sad.

[@josephtomasello3112]

Ain’t the Heartbreakers with out Jerry Nolan

[@nanchanger]

I guess you never heard live at max's, maximum HBs...

[@Crazyfeline]

Too much junkie business. Go JT!

[@patrickslayer5834]

No glamour in drugs. Just depressing to watch. Looks so jaded and sad to watch. I love Johnny Thunders and the NYDolls but now days drug addiction is such commonplace I don't see any fun taking any drug. They will control you and mess you up. Been there and never want to go back. Loved it back in the 1980s but no chance today. No fucking way!!!

[@precisionbrown6829]

Yeah I’ve been there and have stabilized and still playing out

[@MrGothic78]

Only too much coke here. No wonder.

[@meow2804]

Is this sweden

[@nanchanger]

No

[@jcripp7974]

Its CBGBs. Im pretty sure but more likely Maxs. They were a Maxs KC band. Both rooms had incredible sound

[@theangrycro-mag9444]

Haha. Fuckin Johnny. Coked out of his mind!

[@michaelbrodie5798]

It was a privilege to work with Walter for 12 years on Wall Street.RIP and jam with Johnny.

[@AprilEwell]

Lucky

[@leahflower9924]

It shouldve been billy rath on the cover of Springsteen's born in the USA that's all I'm gonna say 😍

[@geraldburns-dg4rt]

Straigh up? You worked with "Waldo"? Im easily reachable if you cam spare even 5 min.s. One underrated guitar player...May He Rest Easu.

[@warshipsatin8764]

​@@AprilEwellidiot

[@prick4brains]

This was probably the height of his addiction. A lot of people don't realize he (sort of) cleaned up later in life. He was going through methadone treatment for the last years of his life. His swedish gf said he would sometimes pretend to be stoned on stage bc fans wanted it. If you listen to some of his life stuff from '90/91 it is significantly tighter. Live and Wasted 1990, and Live in Osaka '91 are better than any Heartbreakers live albums for this reason. RIP to Johnny, Walter, the whole gang.

[@00117064]

Yeah it is sad... He was really sick also, he died of untreated leukemia like a junky.

[@julieelvin7639]

Thanks for the insights very interesting. Sad the way people talk all the time about drugs not about the great songs he wrote.

[@thatsentertainment6683]

Better than any HB live performance from 1980-1984 probably, because after that, he got kinda serious again (Dead or Alive show, reunion with Jerry and Arthur), but this is his worst era by far: the infamous "needle in the hat" era like on the cover of "In Cold Blood"

[@billclinton3010]

Thanks

[@warshipsatin8764]

dude going to a methadone clinic doesnt mean he cleaned up - there are plenty of people who trade or sell their methadone/suboxone and buy dope with the money. ive literally seen and done it myself. he didnt pretend shit it doesnt matter though, none of that has anything to do with how great his and the heartbreakers music is

[@ffvffv5709]

What a facsinating double life lived by Walter. Making bank on wallstreet and playing with Johnny at night.

[@seispistols881]

Johnny tripping but his guitar is on point..... Love that sht

[@lucamontanarilughi6457]

right, man!

[@precisionbrown6829]

Yep as high as he probably was, he had that timing talent

[@christianlarsson2038]

Ha ha what? He plays like a total beginner.

[@TeleCaster66]

@@christianlarsson2038 I know, he sucked.

[@anthonywandowicz8084]

Same fuckin thing i said to my self 30 seconds in

[@leesawford]

too much 'junkie' business again. Johny mate..It was only going to go one way. He must have been a fucking nightmare to work with .People love him due to the 'dohety,richards, burns' syndrome' watching someone crucify themselves, Sacrificing themselves on the alter ..so to speak They excuse their terrible performance as they see him so fucked up and vulnerable and (especially the girls) wanna save him. He was basically was committing a slow suicide in front of audiences.

[@precisionbrown6829]

He was

[@gnubbolo]

were times of depression and nihilism. was the the cold war. heroin or atomic bombs, who cares ?

[@sarahcombs8674]

elijah pink ypu ever read please kill me or chelsea horror hotel talks about that especially with him n dee n stiv in a band they were going to start qhores of babylon

[@lMrFresno559l]

Thunders wore his junkie lifestyle on his sleeve. My god. Looks like that pulled the definition of a junkie trope from a movie on stage.Most musicians hide it ok. Thunders did not. lol

[@DonTerhune1200cc]

How could he hide it?

[@jimszikk775]

Please don't write lol about such a sad thing as drug problems.

[@siggylloyd3566]

@@jimszikk775 bud, this is the internet. One person's misery is another person's fucking joke.

[@dalakerdaniel9240]

@@siggylloyd3566 May they all Rest in Powder ☠️💣☠️

[@smkxodnwbwkdns8369]

@@DonTerhune1200cc like every other 70s rock guitarist did

[@Lugh444]

Does it look cool on my head? No? OK I'll put around my neck

[@jetboy_]

LMFAOOOO

[@michaelbaker5547]

L.M.F.A.O.

[@marystreetrecords]

R.I.P. Walter. The world lost another Heartbreaker today.

[@themapsarewrongandthetimel8722]

Omg, how did we not hear this?? Eddie Van Halen all over the news, R.I.P., but where would any of them be without these kind of rock rebels paving the way? R.I.P. Walter Lure

[@walterostrander9085]

My name is Walter as well. But....it is sad to see Johnny looking like that. It is obvious that he has Cancer of a sort...had he looked for treatment, he could still be alive and giving his kids love & us great music!

[@RnREnglands]

JT is so high..I went to rehab !!!!

[@graham1745]

👍👏😄

[@peterdaigle7249]

He can't keep his tongue in his mouth, but he can still keep up with his guitar.

[@axelmurphy2397]

sort of lol

[@thesleekgreek]

Them snowballs tend to do that

[@paulrob55]

Hard to watch Johnny when he's all fucked up like that.

[@precisionbrown6829]

Yep I agree

[@brendangeraghty8865]

Looks like his teeth were bothering him,that night. Never seen this one before,either...Fucking great video.

[@mark1952able]

Looks like johnny is doing a speedball....way too much.....

[@babu510]

Johnny thunders

[@pgroove163]

i dig it

[@Sid1Vicious84]

This year is one of the worst in Johnny Thunders addicted life! But The Heartbreakers are still great anyway!

[@hubblebublumbubwub5215]

It’s impressive how he stayed alive for another 8 years

[@fuzinskezgodbe3683]

It s not, it s actaully weird, Keith Richards who was even bigger junkie reamained 50 years and on since he started with drugs, and he s still alive.

[@jacobanderson2285]

fuck yeah it really is lmao

[@bonnerscott5374]

@Anderson Cooper this is true.

[@tadsomato1940]

It isn't.

[@bonnerscott5374]

@@tadsomato1940 yeah it isn't your right it was 79' and Keef never had a problem with drugs he had a problem with the police. but as some know to be a junkie cast a long shadow.

[@precisionbrown6829]

Ok so we all know Johnny loved his drugs. This isn't about drugs

[@Staggercfc]

Yeah they should comment on music. All the smart ass drugs comments are boring.

[@janetowens7288]

Apparently it is about drugs. Just read all the dumb ass arguments by the drug experts in the comments. What a pathetic bunch of losers.

[@sadboyneddy4215]

People wanna see a trainwreak and truth is this is how i found Johnny and his music.

[@MrDeengels]

Johnny is so blitzed but his tone is killer!!!

[@dmerls8571]

I saw Johnny Thunders playing a small, nothing club in Newport, Rhode Island in 1982 or 1983. He was doing the same mouth-probing speedball thing only he was even less coherent. The crowd stopped watching and emptied the small room with the stage. Most didn't know who he was or even the NY Dolls which shows how poor the booking was. I stayed watching along with about 5 others (yes 5). Suddenly he launched into a Wipeout type guitar riff that was really hot, there was some talent in there still.

[@leahflower9924]

Who is this drummer again? He looked like he should be home studying for SATS 😅

[@concatinate]

He always loved "Wipeout", there's a nice cover on "So Alone".

[@jaynebrooks01]

Great quality video. Never seen this one before. It is not from 1982 though. Since Billy Rogers is playing drums, this would be between 1980 and no later than 1984. The Heartbreaker's played CBGB's one time between that date span. This show was on January 8, 1983. I have the Village Voice ad to prove it. That was the last time JT officially played CB's. He of course jumped on stage with the Waldos and The Senders a few times though.

[@1982Videowave]

Thanks, though someone else said on the other live video uploaded on this account that it was from '82.

[@jaynebrooks01]

Thank you

[@lauraluarasi2783]

Johnny Tuinals mostrhaj

[@gmanzano89gm]

Jayne Brooks Billy Rath is on Bass. All hearbreakers minus Jerry Nolan.

[@innertubevideo]

Video by the great PAUL TSCHINKEL!!!!!!!!!!

[@petercrowley41]

WALTER LURE & THE HEARTBREAKERS !!!

[@jerrifinley330]

Peter Crowley thank you!! Fuckan aye! Walter lure is the head chap! I love Johnny but my god. Mr.lure .... we love you😫❤️⚡️

[@sergiestevecarbo7310]

don t forget billy rath n heartbreakers

[@MURUR1025]

Was Waldo already working on wall street by this time? Also any idea why Nolan wasn't playing?

[@johneckhart8198]

Wall St carried JT through the Heartbreakers years for sure

[@888strummer]

Exactly right~Walter Lure was so under rated with JT getting all the attention. We seen them a bunch of times, it was Lure and Nolan we went to see

[@jaycolejones5073]

His tongue wants to get its own guitar! Thunders rules!!!!!!

[@DennisMHenderson]

besT "comment" on teh (I)

[@Capt.Thrust]

Thunder's tongue had a mind of it's own during this performance. After the show probably gave some chick multiple orgasims 😂

[@juaneduardoplastocker8652]

Siii está más duro que rulo de estatua jajajaj

[@cftvdata]

It's a coke/speed thing. You don't even realize you're doing it when it's happening

[@leahflower9924]

Kinda reminds me of when they give you a shit ton of Novocaine when you go to dentist

[@MarkGelderland]

Great sound engineer; it's not often live footage from that era sounds this good (other than being actual there, i wish i was); i really like this performance.

[@jcripp7974]

Max's and CBs always had top notch sound.

[@patrickguitar8676]

Cb's had a powerful system..just make sure your amp is grounded lol If you know what I'm saying

[@Junkopartna]

🤔 Someone must’ve rubbed some peanut butter on his gums before the show. A horse is a horse of course of course... the wonderful Mr. thunders

[@jetboy_]

lmfaooo

[@fedornemtchinov9427]

speedballs will do that

[@FranzSausage]

Great track. Rest in peace Walter Lure. Johnny Thunders looks so sick here and he was just over 30 when this was filmed.

[@DennisMHenderson]

'Turtle lure"

[@leahflower9924]

@@DennisMHenderson why turtle? 🐢

[@shanelevene4864]

And I thought JT looked good here...

[@milllumine2246]

wish I could find the video of this whole show with so alone and all.

[@honeycatacomb1191]

I know this seems kinda random and most likely unintentional, but they're all wearing an accent of the hot pink on the L.A.M.F. cover. Johnny's scarf, Lure's tie, Nolan's pink striped shirt, and the bassists scarf...it's kinda cool...

[@sambeatlejuice]

The legend JT from NY, the real one , the pioneer of the punk rock attitude!

[@nycbren64]

I remember him playing these little shows around NYC. I knew people who would go just to see if he would die. So Sad. What a waste of a very talented man. Drugs suck

[@kolera52]

C'est difficile à regarder, même quand on fréquente Thunders. Le pire, c'est qu'on est persuadé que c'est le meilleur à la guitare. Mais la dope le retient. Trop stoned.

[@julioechevarria7539]

R.I.P Walter Lure, the last heartbreaker.

[@triplucid3563]

DURING THOSE DAYS = THAT singer CARRIED IT ALL!

[@damndirtyrandy7721]

That singer? 5 years later and that comment still marks you as lame af and casts a shadow of lameness should you ever find a female who doesn’t mind procreating with a lametard and having a litter of lameletts… 🤦🏻

[@thesheaproject]

It was a great show - one of the best I've been to.

[@richardrouth4790]

Did Walter Lure sing this on the album too or is he just filling in cause Johnny is fuckin shot? I guess he probably must cause it sounds like the same. I don't think Walter gets nearly enough credit for the Heartbreakers. He wrote the music for "Love Comes In Spurts" which later became "One Track Mind" which is IMO one of their best songs and as you can see in this video he was the guy who apparently kept it together when Johnny was too fucked up to do shit on his own. Johnny is a great personality and a classic rocker but he couldn't have truly sustained a band on his own in my opinion.

[@jackgallick7912]

Walter does sing this on L.A.M.F.

[@00117064]

Walter did help Johny on that one... Sad to see a man going so low... rip

[@CK-no8mc]

Totally underrated, you're right. There are a lot more videos out now which show how he and Johnny share solos and play off eachother, this video is a good example. Definitely not just a rhythm guitar like some may think.

[@Splattermelt]

Walter usually sings this song along with a handful of others.

[@Releasethebats123]

Walter also sings the get off the phone and one track mind on the album too i think

[@bernardshakey9107]

Three words: GRETSCH WHITE FALCON. Never knew my dude Waldo played one, but it makes sense. It’s the perfect electric guitar. Best instrument I’ve ever owned. Got one because of Sylvain Sylvain, Neil Young and Malcolm Young. Continually amazed by how many of my favorite guitarists rocked a Falcon at some time or another. RIP Johnny. 🙏🏻

[@clive_the_fat_cat]

Have you seen the "white penguin" model they do? Iv seen afew online but never in person

[@bernardshakey9107]

@@clive_the_fat_cat Seen em. Never played one though.

[@officialabereidandthespike5899]

You’ve never been strong out.? Be thankful. Richard Hill is a genius for saving his ass. Johnny thunders is a true God. Put that in your pipe and smoke it

[@michaelbaker5547]

R.I.P.L.A.M.F. Waldo

[@Whatsahandle4]

This shit always makes me wanna take maybe like a 3 month heroin vacation

[@tacob69]

That might be the hardest I've ever seen someone Jaw.Good lord he's lucky he dislocate that thing Haha.

[@AprilEwell]

I knowww lololol

[@TobcioccLeyton]

don't do drugs kids, I saw Johnny Thunders live in london a year before he died.

[@KaBoomChannel]

LOL Holy sht he's totally coked out

[@surfercrow]

RIP, Walter Lure (8/23/20)

[@cecile5090]

Johnny was completely trashed here. Thank goodness Walter took over.

[@martysmith5260]

Even Keith Richards never looked THAT bad!

[@DonTerhune1200cc]

Keith used to get full blood transfusions. Ha

[@gristmill1213]

Keef had the resources to handle it much better. It's a good representation of how a millionaire handles a severe drug addiction compared to a guy living from gig to gig handling the same type of addiction.

[@martysmith5260]

@@gristmill1213 Let's be honest. I have read books on Thunders. He just wasn't that bright.

[@gristmill1213]

@@martysmith5260 I agree. Even though I haven't read any books on Johnny, from what I've seen he was very adolescent in nature.

[@martysmith5260]

BTW, his bandmate Walter Lure just died.

[@jasoncolley4102]

It seems like there's tension between Johnny and waldo, especially when you watch too much junkie business from this gig.

[@Heatfarmer]

Johnny plays and acts like an idiot. Cocaine or not, this is just fucking awful.

[@nanchanger]

This was the HBs last gasp...

[@888strummer]

There was tension between JT and Lure because JT could barely play. Without Lure there were nights when there wouldn't be a show. After a while that gets old

[@JR-xj2vr]

Had to be so hard for all those around Johnny to watch himself destroy.

[@isidromanuel5328]

Mis respetos para Walter Lure!

[@MrDeengels]

Johnny looks so wrecked from drugs here it's sad to see someone suffer from addiction like this.

[@pahlie39]

Anyone that had gotten their hands on some bad blow goes through the numbing of the mouth and jaw chomping routine. Nothing helps at that point. Walter points this out to Johnny, "finally met your waterloo".

[@PAULLONDEN]

pahlie39 Never heard of that ...I used to shoot up in the 70's...it seems John had smack laced with cyanide or speed...a junky's nightmare....

[@geoffwright1255]

***** Dude, if it was laced with cyanide he'd croak! I was on the spike for 35 years and believe me any opiate / opioid mixed with speed (used to be called speedballs) is a junkie's dream - coupla phi amps + 6 dex crushed and filtered was the hit of choice of many of my contemporaries. I saw the Heartbreakers 8 times from '77 onwards and JT always worked his mouth a lot, pouting and snarling. He does look like one sick puppy here tho - I know for a fact he was into sniffin' glue, so much so that Peter Perrett of The Only Ones played a lot of his guitar parts on So Alone cos they couldn't get JT out of the studio toilet. But from the sweats and jaw grinding, I reckon he'd had a snowball (coke + smack cocktail). I'm glad to say I knocked all that shit on the head years ago. Glamorous? Noooo, just plain desperado self-destructive!

[@PAULLONDEN]

Geoff Wright Ok..then...I shouldn't generalize just because I myself wasn't a speed fan; and rather went for the coma effect. Thunders and Sid Vicious are perfect poster boys for not to use smack. I always used it in comfortable surroundings, flowing music a good drink etc. None of that sticky sweating and scratching for me. That's why it was so difficult to knock it. Especially in some European countries where they more or less subsidised drug use.That's history though, now they escort the remnants of those days to the last stop.I've got no regrets though.

[@MarkGelderland]

+Geoff Wright That's funny because in the eighties we called coke+smack a speedball, dope mixed with amphetamines wasn't popular at all. You get all itchy and shit. Snowballing on the other hand is something quite different xD

[@doctorskull8197]

Phenomenal guitar tone! 💕🎸

[@hershoreline]

thanks so much for posting this.

[@patrickguitar8676]

R...I....P... W..A..L..D..O..2..0..2..0.....

[@RAT12345678]

Thanx, great quality !!! More please !!!

[@MotttheHoople2010]

Johnny near the end... so sad! LAMF!

[@MisterSorgot]

This is what happened when Johnny only drink water !

[@1Rckless]

say no to drugs...

[@goetia13]

terrifying to watch someone tweek out that hard....

[@crisscat2006]

ESTROPEADO Juancito truenos

[@michaelvolgare4454]

God Damn Billy Rogers was one great drummer!!!

[@waltm8011]

Dalle prime tre note di chitarra riconosci Johnny....e sono pochi i chitarristi al mondo ad aver questo privilegio

[@frankchavarria1561]

Walter is using my guitar and amp !!!

[@patrickguitar8676]

Nice guy frank👍

[@lancehurley9743]

Some really good white vein Sumatra or Maeng Da could’ve saved him...

[@jcripp7974]

I think Johnny would have laughed at Kratom. Or. God forbid. Ha. What a thought

[@chinchilla2971]

Seeing Johnny’s face here instantly reminded me of my own from back in the day. Glad I got off this things. Rip Johnny

[@mistervertigo678]

I bet Johnny wished this wasn't filmed. RIP.

[@DaveyRamone9th]

Ever time I watch it gets better and better. I would pay anything to see thunders

[@jennfaire8726]

i saw him live and he dropped his guitar and picked up a crack rock.

[@snookimane2304]

Rip Walter lure

[@jenniferstinebaugh204]

think brotha had alil to much coke

[@tagacale1733]

no, chinese rocks

[@brockt9762]

Taga Cale Tiwi Albay you’re both right, speedball

[@dlawlis]

"Johnny always takes more than he needs"

[@kevindelaney8029]

forgets a couple chords forgets a couple leads....

[@peekayyemm]

And everybody always tells me johnny is hot, johnny needs something that he ain't got R. I. P. Johnny

[@darkdefender1111]

Most addicts do..

[@dalakerdaniel9240]

@@darkdefender1111 that's the sense of, it separates the men from the boys May they all Rest in Powder

[@lindawinchester3001]

JT's barely functioning. The excessive mouth movements & the tongue action show he just needs to lay down & sleep it off once again. He's dehydrated but sweaty sick. The vampirism effecting him has drained the will right out him & he's just responding instinctively until he can just get off stage. At this point, he's already gone. It's just that nobody knows it yet. Miss you each & every day, man.

[@utilitymuffin1671]

Druga are bad

[@jefrey5578]

wish I could like more than once!

[@danopticon]

Gah … when the drugs have so taken over that, rather than enhance your experience of playing music, they’ve turned music into the chore you must endure to get more drugs, you _really_ need to back waaaay off them, for a bit. Burroughs, that’s a good example of someone who moderated their intake, and retained their composure, and their love of work and life. But this is just sad to watch. I’m no prude, if you can handle being a libertine be a libertine, I’m not against drugs, but late-stage Johnny is a walking illustration of the fact that more than enough sometimes really is too much.

[@Soundeagle3456]

this isn't even late stage johnny this is 1982, he died in 1991. So you can guess how much worse it got from there.

[@spindriftdrinker]

I thought this was gonna be a cover of the Eric Carmen song.

[@iwantthe80sback59]

So did I.

[@strictlydubwise]

Don't do hard drugs, kids!

[@bmoneyrancidfan91]

One word. SPEEDBALL

[@futurosimpleband5846]

En paz descanse jhonny.

[@RollingRockvideos]

Amazing that Paul didnt get this video taken down. He almost got my entire channel to shut down when Ive uploaded the entire footage from this gig...

[@kevinhogan7814]

Couldn't get Nolan to play with the group during this period. But then he went with them to London. Never understood why. Maybe because Johnny was so erratic on stage at this time?

[@smkxodnwbwkdns8369]

$$$

[@precisionbrown6829]

Well guys if you’re gonna use drugs like he did, you have to be careful about who and what you’re dealing with

[@Disciple_Rich]

notice how the mic is turned way down on John's line. haha. great song butchered but still good

[@lusacf]

Rip Walter

[@jamiewillis3740]

RIP Walter Lure

[@myworstenemy680]

Johnny looks like walking death

[@martinpark8371]

Waldo!

[@alexmanenti6684]

in North Italy (Milan,Brescia my city) is "speedboom"...

[@themtboys307]

Every spring the boyz get together for a pre-season workout

[@patrickguitar8676]

Doosh doosh.....

[@garthrallysport]

RIP Walter

[@boozoochavis7506]

Yeah, it IS rather glamorous to watch ...... I know that look!

[@carlossilva6155]

🥂🤘