All ENDINGS EXPLAINED and How to Get Them | Ogre Battle Person of Lordly Caliber

[@WarrenReport]

What ending did you get when you finished this game for the first time? Comment below!

[@GamerGarm]

I got the Neutral-Lawful ending. I always thought you needed Ankiseth and all the Zenobians to get the golden ending. I am surprised Chaos Frame is the defining factor on all the endings. I mean, it is always important on all Ogre Battle games, but here it seems to be the absolute variable for the endings. Still, this is my favorite Ogre Battle game. Thank you so much for all your work and sharing the wisdom, Astromancer!

[@WarrenReport]

@@GamerGarm I also found it uninspiring to resort to Chaos Frame only for the best endings, especially considering the past game, MOTBQ, which had INSANE requirements for the best ending. But it's a brilliant game, and thanks for the feedback!

[@cheesedude-ygo]

I got the Neutral ending. Recruited Saradin and Aisha.

[@DevilKillerJCS]

My first playthough was a disaster. I would have ended with the chaotic ending but my army was so freaking terrible that I got stuck in the eastern region (farthest I got was the branching path to where you could fight Biske, go rescue Europea or go get Paul). That's what I get for listening to the game when it comes to army building (oh, Cleric +2 golems are so great for defense!... Yeah, right, and no offense). Plus I didn't know how soldiers worked. I gave up and started over, though in hindsight, I probably could have salvaged it if I still had that save file and the knowledge I have now (though I'd be relying on beasts mostly). My first proper clear was a neutral chaotic end. I didn't know anything about liberation and ALL of my units were max lawful alignment units.

[@nangbaby]

I received the Neutral Lawful ending with a Chaos Frame of 36. Even though my first play through was blind, I thought I was on my way to a very is a very good ending. I had acquired both Saradin and Aisha. I made peace with the Western Division. I did find it a little weird that the other Zenobians had not joined me, but I chalked it up to them not being recruitable. So imagine my surprise after all that we're playing this game that not only was there an invisible reputation meter, but that I only got a 36! Obviously after this I decided to look at GameFAQs and see what I did wrong. I'm very surprised at that the Chaos Frame range for the Neutral-Lawful ending goes down as far as it does. I guess this was done because they knew having an invisible meter would make it harder to game it. It didn't help my reputation, though, that I was still playing by MotBQ rules and having Lawful Alignment units landing on towns when possible, and I went to straight to the capital instead of dealing with the surrounding demons. (In my defense, I thought that liberating the capital would lessen the aggression in the countryside in a "cut off the head" type effect.)

[@Jasonwfd]

I'm a simple man. I see a new video from Warren Report in my suggestions, I watch the video.

[@WarrenReport]

Thanks, you are awesome!

[@stompie5233]

I had this game as a kid and always got the chaotic ending. I had no idea there was a difference between capturing and liberating a town lol

[@WarrenReport]

Yeah, me too!

[@seawind930]

They made it really easy in the first one and showed you the meter for it. This one they mucked it up.

[@RolandTemplar]

@@seawind930 yeah, maybe lack of time, they could use a clue like map colouring, a NPC hinting you, or just face emoji like Happy, High CF, sad face low CF, was so easy to solve

[@damianwarneke305]

I was a vet of the SNES version of March of the Black Queen by the time I played this, so I knew about the alignment system. We didn't have the internet, but you could see the little bar react to your choices, so we knew something was going on lol. Got the best ending. Heavily relied on Paladins and Holy Dragons to hold the line, switching positions when needed.

[@WarrenReport]

Wow, thats a great formation!

[@thyzok8385]

My favorite game of all time, never saw all the endings. Thank you

[@WarrenReport]

Glad to help!

[@fagarou]

Even if it's hard to lose against him if not done on purpose, I love the story of losing to Destin and having him coach us on being a better person. That's totally something that could happen in his Ogre Battle story, beat the misguided boss and recruit him to your army !

[@WarrenReport]

Totally! 😅

[@onepiece666]

Turns out Manus wasn’t the main character but the boss and Destin was always the hero

[@RolandTemplar]

Just equip Magnus alone with worst equipment

[@ogrebattle64net54]

These videos are highly appreciated! Even though it's not really important for which ending you want, since Chaos Frame is the biggest factor, I did want to note that Paul and Europea is a choice you have regardless of which ending you want. You get to pick one or the other: Europea comes with full unit and Paul's stage gives you access to a second Lich. Otherwise, you can still get any ending. 💜

[@WarrenReport]

Exactly, which I find uninspired as many more conditions could be added for different endings. But the game is still fantastic anyway

[@RolandTemplar]

@@WarrenReport and with lots of life quality adds

[@Gamerextra1029]

Man this game was so ambitious and ahead of its time. Games that actually make you ponder whether your actions are right or wrong are true gems... I seriously hope that Square Enix will consider giving this series another shot.

[@WarrenReport]

Lets hope!

[@RolandTemplar]

The problem was being N64 exclusive, that console was so little in strategic and RPG gamea

[@TheSenhorcaioo]

I did some testing by beating this game many times. I remember that if you refuse Magnus's father offer to join your party after chapter 2 he will disappear until the end of chapter 4 and look for Yumil alone and Yumil will kill him. There is a special fight with king Procus instead of Yumil in this scenario, and if I remember correctly the other prince won't die after the castle siege but will die in a cutscene. Also if Dio leaves the party Xevec never betray the revolution lol! And contrary to popular beliefs, what determines if Dio leaves the party is not your dialog answers, but your chaos frame. Choosing the "wrong" option will lower it but you can increase it enough. If you don't recruit the first Zenobian (I think is the priest girl or Saradin) none of the others will join you even if your chaos frame is high. Also, on the stage where Saradin explains about the portals, if you don't have Saradin on the party is a "revolutionary archmage" who tells the story. I also remember that I manage to recruit Carth and get a good ending (Magnus became a general).

[@TheSenhorcaioo]

And last, I think that if you don't recruit Magnus father and choose to fight Biske but have a high chaos frame, he won't die after the fight.

[@WarrenReport]

You may be correct, I need to replay again to test this! Thanks for the contribution

[@seawind930]

The Low end Chaos Route where Rashidi gets reborn, sets up the next Ogre Battle perfectly in my opinion. The reason he died in the first one was because he didn't really have the godly power to open chaos gates but now that he has a godly body he can open gates to the netherworld and start the Ogre battle setting up a final battle scenario.

[@WarrenReport]

Exactly

[@someonecomenting1300]

The neutral chaotic and neutral have the best opening to make another ogre battle.

[@WarrenReport]

Indeed!

[@roguetrainer957]

My first playthrough I got the bad ending. Like most people I didn't know liberation/capturing was a thing -- made all the right choices which kept my CF too high for Carth/Biske, but by the end it caught up with me. Also, the sixth ending (play 90% of the game high CF but tank it with Destin in your party) is an especially cool Easter egg. It's functionally the same as Neutral-Chaotic, but the context is much more intriguing and does more justice to Magnus's character.

[@WarrenReport]

A lot of people dislike this game precisely because this mechanic is not explained anywhere, which makes all the difference in how you approach the game!

[@RolandTemplar]

@@WarrenReport never get why is hidden, maybe lack of time? A simple jewel color system or the main map colouring (like dishonored Game) to tell you how is ur chaos frame, heck, even an NPC in a specific city, can tell you with ambigous phrases

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

Another great video!

[@WarrenReport]

Thanks friend!

[@niltonjunior2081]

Man, the battle against the Zenobian, Caliber... I cried and felt like s***

[@WarrenReport]

One of the great plot twists in gaming!

[@niltonjunior2081]

@@WarrenReport In Brazil the game didn't receive the credit worth, even with all magazines at the time saying it was a "must-play". The cover itself was so little that it took me over 10 years to find out there were other endings and how to achieve it

[@WarrenReport]

@@niltonjunior2081 o brasileiro nao é tradicionalmente rpgista, o que vende por aqui é FPS e futebol. Muita gente sequer conhece chrono trigger por exemplo, quisá um nicho tão particular quanto ogre battle. Mas eu vejo que isso vem mudando pouco a pouco, Reborn foi trouxe muita gente pro genero, espero muitas coisas boas em breve! 🧙🏼‍♂️

[@suppanutjongjitaree8505]

You could recruit Paul along with other Zenobian too (them both are not mutually exclusive), just that you might need some trick from memory editing code to unlock all route after recruit Paul to enter another route that normally block off after clear map that you recruit Paul.

[@WarrenReport]

Ah yes, if you break the game you can do whatever you want my friend hehehe

[@matthewbarabas3052]

sorry, but the neutral ending isnt possible. you can recruit two, and it wont make any difference, you still get the chaotic ending. recruiting destin is what makes the difference.

[@ulisescorp1469]

sad to see my favorite game of the whole saga with just one video :C

[@WarrenReport]

Yet ;-)

[@ulisescorp1469]

@@WarrenReport Excited on this answer! Keep it going!

[@3n1x9]

This Chanel os the best!!!

[@WarrenReport]

Thank you, you are very kind!

[@RolandTemplar]

Europea + biske and Paul are mutually excluyent, but dont Matter for Any ending

[@WarrenReport]

Youre right!

[@cheesedude-ygo]

Its perfectly possible to recruit Paul no matter what you do. You just have to play his stage and visit two villages. I do believe he's the only recruitment where the correct answer is the second dialogue option though, IIRC. I've definitely had Paul on a team with the Zenobians before (though the more relevant factor is honestly the second Lich). I've also recruited Ankiseth and Carth in one run. I don't actually remember how though and sources still seem to disagree on what the requirements for each of these characters are.

[@DevilKillerJCS]

From personal experience, it's impossible. To get Ankiseth, you MUST say "I can't do it" at Fredrick's execution then make peace with the Western Division. To get Carth, you MUST say "..." at Fredrick's execution. The only way to have Carth and Ankiseth is to cheat. Some people say you need a low chaos frame to get Carth but it's not true. I've tried that on the so called "lawful" route (the "I can't do it" route). Carth won't join no matter what. Even if you refuse to recruit the Zenobians or discharge all of them, he still leaves. If you're on the other route he joins regardless of your chaos frame and Ankiseth will never join.

[@ogrebattle64net54]

@@DevilKillerJCS It sounds like I may need to do some additional testing of whether or not the Chaos Frame requirement is legit (most sources say Chaos Frame must be 29 or lower for Carth). I know it works with low Chaos Frame, but I have not tested it personally with high Chaos Frame. I will have to work to reconfirm this as well, but I believe Ankiseth and Carth is also possible. I have never heard of "..." as a requirement for Carth. Just no Zenobians and low Chaos Frame. However, it is also true that we have a lot of different information around the community and some of the recruitment details are still confusing. It's perfectly possible that there's some weird scenario where you need low CF if you says "I can't do it." but CF is not important if you said "...". I'll just have to do more testing to prove it once and for all! 👍

[@DevilKillerJCS]

@@ogrebattle64net54 Yeah, there is a lot of conflicting info out there. Either there's different versions of the game released or so many different people got their facts so messed up that it's impossible to know for sure. I'm going from my own personal experience here (played the game for idk how many hours; I lost count, it's a LOT, I can tell you that). I've never been able to get Carth on my team on the "I can't do it" route. Low chaos frame, avoiding the Zenobians/Discharging them, nothing. But I always get Carth on the "..." route, regardless of chaos frame. Granted, you can't tell where your chaos frame is at any given time but I always liberate everything after getting Sheen (which does require a lowish CF), since low CF no longer matters on the "..." route after that. It has to be maxed when I get to Carth on that route.

[@WarrenReport]

I'm with @DevilKillerJCS on this one. From my in-game tests I couldn't recruit them at the same time without cheating. But if there is any way please let us know here and I'll remake the video. The important thing is to be correct. Ogre Battle is so complex that we are always learning something new about it.

[@cheesedude-ygo]

There are two options if its possible: Either Ankiseth can still be recruited if you say "..." or Carth only requires no Zenobians, meaning you can decline to recruit Saradin and simply bypass the town of Puld in Audvera Heights (or skip that map altogether if you really want to be sure). I distinctly recall talk on GameFAQs message boards over a decade ago that Carth and Biske have different requirements - Biske won't join you if a Zenobian even asks to join you, meaning "..." would be a hard requirement for him. Again, I swear I did this once, but it would have been something like 15 years ago and I simply don't remember how I did it. There is always the possibility I am simply misremembering. At the least, its something I'd like to test out myself again when I get around to playing again.

[@johngaughan354]

I like to thi k that the lawful ending is true and magnus son will be the next main character execpt radishtie is born and that's what the next game would be the holy Louis empire war along with him as a threat

[@WarrenReport]

Which makes sense, they wouldn't put information about a child, and even his name, if there wasn't some reason behind it. Who knows, maybe one day we'll see the continuation of this story!

[@Yanninho78]

@@WarrenReport Magnus son will Catiua daughter to make an alliance between Palatinus and Valeria to fight against Lodis with the help of Xenobia in the last big battle.

[@WarrenReport]

@@Yanninho78 that would be amazing!

[@klissattack]

Poor Fredrick. Dies in every ending

[@WarrenReport]

Yeah...he was a cool guy

[@RolandTemplar]

@@WarrenReport he needed to be casted by Sean Bean

[@cristopherS940]

You forgot. Ogre battle in “game over”

[@WarrenReport]

Thats sad

[@Geryboy666]

what about mari giving birth to the demon? does that only happen in the bad ending?

[@WarrenReport]

Yes, this event appears only in the bad ending, but according to the spoilers of the leaked script in 1998 of the sequel to LUCT, this particular event is part of the canonical story, so we can consider that it also happens in the good ending, it is just not shown on the screen

[@TheTacticalRPGOdyssey]

Just a suggestion but you may want to update the title from "How to Get Then" to "How to Get Them"

[@WarrenReport]

Wow, I didn't even notice. Thanks for the correction, it helped a lot!

[@RolandTemplar]

So zenobians are just for bad endings, and irrelevante for good ones, clearly they are just for fanservice

[@WarrenReport]

They are "invaders of a neighboring nation" in this story, it is expected that they do not have a direct involvement with the country's politics

[@RolandTemplar]

@@WarrenReport well, Palatinus was under war, so diplomacy was not an option, otherwise they could form an alliance to beat that invaders from east and Frederick should not died

[@alvarodelgado2288]

So... you can just NOT recluit a single hero of xenobia and get the full lawfull ending just by chaos frame? something feels wrong here... this must be the first time i see is way more easy get the full lawfull ending rather the full chaotic ending

[@WarrenReport]

Exactly, considering how it is in the other games, they got it wrong in this one in my opinion

[@RolandTemplar]

Few endings, having zenobians is most a little scene after beating the Game, they are just fanservice

[@Firewizard23]

See, I call BS on this game for the chaos frame..which is NEVER EXPLAINED in the manual or in game.

[@WarrenReport]

I agree, this was very poorly planned

[@RolandTemplar]

Yeah, and is different from the SNES one, many danked their CF at first