ALL Engineers & Space Jockeys Explained

[@readyfuels17]

Can we just get a trilogy of Engineer movies written and directed by Kroft?

[@theramplocal]

Dude, ultimate xeno- the kroftomorph

[@Andy-B187]

Kroft, come in, come in...awaiting your response to this comments

[@theramplocal]

@@Andy-B187 kroft is an android confirmed lol

[@offtherealm5438]

I like his background music.....it fits perfectly.

[@bumpercarjoe6391]

Why? Kroft is a AI and misses the point that David loves humans and is trying to help them evolve. It’s ironic actually

[@CordellPotts]

Loved Prometheus, Really upset we didn't get a true sequel.

[@pkshowsupnoobsallday]

Same dude... same.

[@royerr-dl5ct]

yup. I feel like we're in the minority but it was the type of universe building, grand, existential storyline that I wanted. Ambitious and big. If I am honest, I kinda do think that most people are just a bit too dumb with attention spans too short to enjoy a movie like that

[@deankruse2891]

Prometheus was fantastic

[@CordellPotts]

On opening day I was 1st in line, Was super excited, in my mind it was not possible for Prometheus to be a bad film. When I left the theater I was disappointed and confused. Since then I've watched it probably about 10 times. It's not my favorite Alien film, but it is one of the best sci Fi films I've seen in the last 10yrs. I just really wish the studio hadn't messed with Covenant and we could have gotten the sequel that Scott originally wanted to make. The Engineers, David , & Shaw's story should have been continued. In hindsight, I would have gladly taken a Prometheus sequel that had absolutely zero xenos and only centered on Shaw and her search for our creators.

[@MistaCUNextTuesday]

​@@royerr-dl5ctLol Promethus was straight up trash. Stop thinking you're above average intelligence because you liked that dogs**t movie buddy, you're embarrassing yourself.

[@GreyplayComics]

I like the idea of the space jockey being a race that the engineers look up to, mimicking their ways & technology meaning David's version of the xenomorphs are just another strain of the originals we haven't discovered yet.

[@piercarlosoares724]

I think this is the only good solution. Sounds way too stupid David creating the Xenos.

[@GreyplayComics]

@@piercarlosoares724 based off all given info this is likely the case, the engineers recreate a deacon's blood into the black goo which David experiments with.

[@Mav3rickShorts]

Always a pleasure listening to your content on alien lore

[@puchacanela]

Always a pleasure at 1.25x

[@theramplocal]

Alien lore w kroft is like tony soprano and gabbagool, or weyland utani and scumbags. Great combo!

[@91lifetime23]

I really like the idea that they are all different, and the engineers in Planet 4 are a creation from the Prometheus engineers, i just hope we get a Covenant sequel

[@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462]

No chance in hell.

[@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462]

​@abefroman3466Agreed.

[@91lifetime23]

@@mattd339 lol the new Alien series will take place between Prometheus and Alien Covenant, just have a Ye of little faith, we will get the Covenant sequel and therefore see more of the engineers, good things are coming

[@91lifetime23]

@@mattd339 do you wanna bet they wont retcon Prometheus or Covenant??

[@robertbrown591]

Reminds me of the all tomorrows story a little bit

[@TrevorKennsworth]

Ridley Scott has no idea what he’s doing with the Alien franchise. Flip-flopping back and forth between Xenomorphs and Engineers, the former being just a regular/generic horror movie brainless monster. I wish they would’ve continued the Engineer storyline, as it was MUCH MORE compelling and actually had deeper meaning to it.

[@awesome1ru]

Well the Xenomorph is way more recognizable & Iconic and gets more casuals to watch so that's why

[@chrisfromsouthaus2735]

Completely agree. A maker "god" who despise what we have become. I think it would be fertile ground for a TV series. A media that could devote more time to exploring the Engineers, and their relationship with us, as well as their other creations.

[@TrevorKennsworth]

@@awesome1ru Says something about regular mundane citizens, enjoying brainless horror slop compared to actual thought-engaging material

[@TrevorKennsworth]

@@chrisfromsouthaus2735 I agree, there definitely should have been more focus on the engineers. I would’ve preferred them to continue with a Prometheus 2 (obviously another title). Which could focus on Shaw and David traveling toward the Engineer home world, or even another colony and trying to discover our origins

[@dearthditch]

Agreed. This would’ve been so much more if the storyline was coherent and consistent. Its been movie making over world building

[@ryancawdor6946]

Bro this is amazing work thanks for continuing to push forward and find Lore.

[@dorjedriftwood2731]

He is quite talented and a great narrator but I cannot understand why Prometheus it was such a bad take on the possibility that alien hinted at. It didn’t honor the lore of the 3 main films and instead chose to make this whole genetic religion. Instead the complete impossible mystery of a being who is merged with the space craft, something beyond human understanding completely, it’s just armor. If your looking for agent aliens the Guyver series did it first and did it better. In Guyver the Aliens were also looking for biological perfect weapon. But in Guyver it is human beings who end up frightening the Aliens away when they steal the technology they were experimenting with and become a weapon so terrifying they evacuate the planet and completely lose there technology. Humans are then given the name Guyver which means “out of control” the ancient aliens who exist in that world were left behind and struggled to stay hidden and to keep their race alive. It’s then explained that all of the human lore about werewolves and other such monsters are just records of the aliens who choose to become weapons to better their grasp on power on earth. The story starts when three Guyver units of the old technology of the original alien civilization are discovered and one ends up in the hands of an ordinary highschooler who is now simultaneously hunted but more and more tasked with liberating the human race from the ancient aliens control. The series continues you learn more and more about how the ancient civilizations were basically enslaved by the aliens who left and that humans were created for the specific purpose of being adaptable slaves for these aliens. Which is a way more coherent narrative then life worshiping aliens sacrificing themselves for humanity then deciding to kill them.

[@saidakhu]

Hi Kroft. Just wanted to make sure you are aware that Prometheus fan Mark McAllister has now admitted to writing the 'early draft script' you refer to in this video (and many others). It's been known for a long time that it was a fan made script, but it's helpful to have confirmation that the guy we all suspected of being the real author actually was.

[@tokinbowls]

I love the engineer storyline and your in depth coverage of it. You work really hard putting these videos together. Hopefully you'll get the recognition you deserve soon I'd love to see your channel blow up!

[@Accuaro]

Bro that scientist really did that space jockey dirty.

[@carnage8120]

Hope they explore more about the engineers in the next alien movie, thanks for the vid kroft

[@azoniarnl3362]

I hope the focus on the alien in an alien movie. This franchise has been hijacked by engineers and David and it should stop.

[@starseeker5231]

​​@@azoniarnl3362the new alien movie is About Alien but the director confirmed it takes place in the same universe as Covenant and Prometheus, it's theorized that the planet from the Romulus trailer is Origae-6 that was mentioned in Covenant, it doesn't matter if Ridley Scott doesn't do it eventually they will have to explain the origins of the Xenomorph so even without David, the Engineers lore will eventually come back whether you like it or not, and get this Fede Alvarez the director of Romulus said he liked Prometheus and Covenant and when asked about it, he said he would like to explore more of them, so depending on how good Romulus is that's how good the next Engineers lore movie will be.

[@taekwoncrawfish9418]

@@azoniarnl3362the aliens are boring now. They’re all the same. The story has been beaten to death.

[@NotMorganFreeman.]

Although I do like hearing various theories, I liked it better when nothing was known about the space jockey, which is in part what made Alien as epic as it is.

[@CharlyDavis5594]

Thanks for all the hard work in creating this content time after time. I truly believe you should be part of the screen writing process on all Alien movies to come.

[@Donnirononon]

Another possibility is that the "engineers" are no clear cut species and just are genetically engineered workers for another alien race. This alien race disappeared leaving them behind only one specimen - the deacon. They used him to procreate as all "engieers" were originally genetically engineered. That would explain why they have similiar style but different technology.

[@MandaLorlegrand]

Hi, I really like your videos on engineers, I’ve watched them all! Despite the criticism of Promotheus and Alien Covenants I still found that the story of the engineers and the origin story of the xenomorph was very interesting, a lot of people didn't like it these films there are too many LORE The spectators don't like it, they watch the film and Tik tok at the same time, what they want is creatures and jumps because there's no interesting story...... Thank you very much for continuing to explain the enigmatic behavior of engineers, David the android your videos are fascinating!!! I hope you excuse my very bad English I'm a stupid French guy 🤪😁🤘🏼💥👌🏼☮️

[@sophiegolden]

French here 😊

[@theramplocal]

I feel the exact same way abt the engineers /space jockey lore. Stuff is super interesting and wld def watch a full engineer movie

[@josesphdobie2897]

Your English is great better than some of my fellow brits 🤣

[@piercarlosoares724]

How David creating the Xenos is an interesting story?

[@phatjesus5968]

Never clicked on a video so fast! - KT blessing us with another Alien/Prometheus/Alien : Covenant video!!!!!!!!!!

[@BallJuiceOfZeus]

There is only one speed for a click, just light a light switch. People who comment this must have an I.q of 10 or below. You probably think pineapple on pizza is acceptable. *spits on ground

[@GeoffNelson]

Lol totally

[@mrco1771]

Excited to watch as soon as it came up! My son and I love your vids , thanks man ! 🍻🪐👽

[@Noticed500]

Thanks Kraft! I loved these movies, I wish we could get a third to finish out the trilogy.

[@GAS.M3]

I want this engineer’s work out routine 💪

[@overlyfatman9722]

10 sets of snapping David’s head 😂

[@nina2222]

​@overlyfatman9722 🤣🤣🤣

[@wifegrant]

The whole elephant looking Space Jokey, from the comic, is kinda dumb to me. I prefer the Engineer wearing a biomechanical suit.

[@xa000c]

I like the theory which describes the whole juggernaut as a giant seed (it's actually similar to the Calendula flower seed). This seed travels through the universe, finds suitable planet, cleans it up with xenomorphs or black gue, and plants itself to grow new juggernauts, which will repeat the process. Two species live in symbiosis: 1) juggernaut ship/seed with a pilot been grown just as an integral part of it; 2) xenomorphs. Both help each other to spread. Similar to what we have in nature, but on the interstellar level. The origin of how this organism could appear is another story.

[@tims9434]

Such an entertaining and informative video. Thanks Kroft

[@raphie8488]

The Biomechanical "Suits" seem to be part of the body. What if those engineers are the bioengineered equivalent of Droids? Doing those "jobs" that are dangerous. The sacrificial one could be a "perfect" being one created to do exactly what he did in the movie. If they lost the ability to recreate naturaly, then that could explain why they possibly do it that way. Oh and if Scott mentioned that other engineers would return to paradise, then it is possibly that the inhabitants simply assumed it was them and not a psychopathic human constructed droid.

[@bishopA5]

David birthing xenomorph solves several questions for me. I like it.

[@taekwoncrawfish9418]

Then how is there a xenomorph mural thousands of years old by the time David created one? He just recreated one

[@richhenry7540]

The Engineers and the Space Jockey from the original Alien are different sizes simply because Ridley wanted a large person to play an Engineer. Maybe down the line, theyll make something up to explain the difference.

[@alisdairherd9501]

Maybe the seats(?) Are grown to fit the engineer

[@richhenry7540]

@@alisdairherd9501 I don't know about that. In the original Alien film the Engineer itself is much, much, larger than the Engineers in Prometheus. Ridley didn't want to use CGI. He wanted an actual person to play an Engineer. So they used the biggest guy they could find to wear the costume.

[@pain2573]

Maybe the Space jockey is part of dead race if engineers that existed millions of years prior. Prometheus engineers are weaker descendants? Idk Ridley fucked his own lore up lol

[@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462]

​@@pain2573A lot of fans who dislike Prometheus like myself see the Engineers as having risen up against their creators/gods which are the Space Jockeys. Look at the engineer mural in Prometheus, the Engineer is pushing or shoving away the creature as if to say to it, "We no longer need you, WE are the Gods now."

[@kevinac4397]

The Dark descent game has its own massive xeno birthed from a gigantic engineer. Not much detail explained but it’s I guess an ancient engineer race.

[@jonathanlayne-gordon9007]

I think you're giving these Alien/Prometheus Sequel/Prequels too much credit for putting this much thought into 'em

[@johnlynch-kv8mz]

Gotta earn a living somehow. I like that this is an option.

[@blackdog9338]

Love your videos Kroft. Perfect music. Perfect voice. Perfect content. We need more about Engineers.

[@ZedonQadrea]

No more

[@leslielemmon]

It makes sense to believe Ridley Scott wanted David to be the origin of biomechanic Xenomorphs by breeding one. That's precisely the idea that he explored in "Raised by wolves", where "mother", an android, gives birth to a bio-mechanical, flying snake of sorts.

[@piercarlosoares724]

You think it is better, David creating them? Isn't better engineers, that are true creators in the whole lore, or at least not disclosing the origin of Xenos at all?

[@taekwoncrawfish9418]

He didn’t create them though. There was already a mural on the wall of a xenomorph before 2000 years before David was even created. So yeah, he only recreated one

[@outerrealm]

I find it implausible that an advanced race like the engineers would not be able to clone and otherwise molecularly engineer something as biologically simple as a creature's blood.

[@_A1K_1]

But Kroft it’s bed time😮

[@JuraKosednar]

😂. Its time for aliens on all channels. kzbin.info/www/bejne/il7OcmCPYs6Becksi=tDbyckNsOknKr6bM

[@colony7591]

I know right lol

[@BaptisteLegrand]

Bed time canceled lol

[@julijakeit]

Don't let the bed 'bugs' bite ;)

[@treflecrystal]

The youtube grind never stops

[@davebear9825]

In regards to what information we have we have to be Careful of the one Script (Orange) it is likely a Fan Edit, as Lindeloff had confirmed that the other two are the only ones released out there and they lacked some of the Elements of the Orange Draft. But indeed while not supporting that Draft... Ian Whyte and Michael Fassbender did have a Longer back and Forth Conversation but we dont have the details of what was said. Daniel Twiss (Sacrificial Engineer) had learned a few lines of a Alien Language and had a small Conversation with the Elder Engineer but this was never shown... one Page from a unreleased Draft had a bit of this Dialog... but it was not as Long as the Orange Draft which is very likely to be Fan Additions.

[@saidakhu]

The Orange Draft is definitely a fan script written by Mark McAllister, the same guy who wrote the much earlier fan script that fooled aintitcoolnews among others. While many people had guessed Mark was the author of the Orange Draft based on misspellings it has in common with his earlier script, such as 'illuminous', we only got final confirmation a few weeks ago when he identified himself as the author.

[@davebear9825]

@@saidakhu Thanks for the Confirmation, its a shame so many took this as Legit. I do commend the work done on the Draft. And the Efforts that Kroft has taken with his Videos which use that Draft as information, they likely thought was Legit.

[@davebear9825]

@@saidakhu The actual way to look at LV-223 and those Engineers as far as it seems RS was going for, would be to look at David and his Story Ark. But unfortunately we will likely never see a continuation of RS ideas..

[@37Kilo2]

The more times I watch Prometheus and Covenant, the more I like them. I think kroft's videos have helped aid my appreciation for them. Having more background information on what's going on, makes it all more enjoyable.

[@datdudeinred]

Prometheus was so good ofc not anywhere near alien & aliens but nothing is for a prequel it was insanely good. ❤️ Hate how everyone hates it.

[@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203]

Aliens sucked

[@everynowandthen4864]

The story was very good but the screenplay (dialogues) wasn’t which is a damn shame. So much potential!

[@marksanzone4948]

OMG...wonderful expose, bringing more relevant details than most could sensibly surmise by watching the movies! You've certainly identified plenty of logical possibilities for new, big screen stories. Great work, Kroft!

[@biggeneral1628]

Kroft is that dude 💯💯💯

[@BionicEdit]

Thank you for still posting on this franchise!

[@DearDextra]

Yo, just wanna say I love your work :)

[@davebear9825]

The Elder Engineers were interesting, what the Idea behind them were they were just Older versions of the Sacrificial Engineer, the Engineers Aged like us only they lived for Thousands of Years. It was indicated that indeed they lost the ability to procreate Sexually. But it was indicated that they had other ways to Procreate (Clone more likely). The Sacrificial Scene was intended to show us that this is the Process of how they would Create Life and Evolve it.. using a Creation Tool (Goo, Worms, Scarabs). RS felt like the Elders scene gave away too much, which he wanted to hold back for a Sequel. He was not satisfied with how the Elders came across and said he never wanted to meet God (the God's) in the First Movie. Thus indicating that the Engineers in Prometheus where a Sub Creation of whatever RS was going to SHOW us the Elders were (or who will replace them as Promethues Engineers Creators).

[@ROVA00]

Probably the best take in this comment section

[@davyheijlands1956]

Ah Man, I've been subscribed to your channel far many years now and somehow the algoritm keeps pushing your vids everytime you upload a Prometheus themed video. I lov your content and I still hold hope Scott will get another crack on the trilogy. Keep um coming bro!

[@Philtoid]

Its a good day when kroft awakens from criosleep to tell us interesting sci fi facts. Thank you kroft

[@jaymobiggety9903]

Always good when new Kroft comes out.

[@doordashh]

thank you for this video, I love anything about the engineers 🙏

[@takeomasaki260]

so glad i found this channel!!!!!!!

[@primal1233]

Thank you for this very detailed video

[@sulanis8444]

I'm happy you said that their based on the Annunaki. It's the first thing I thought of when I saw the Engineers at the beginning of the movie. For those that don't know the story: The Annunaki came to earth from what we see called "Planet 9". or back in the day called Nibiru or Planet X. This planet has a massive elliptical orbit of thousands of years and only close to earth every 3600 of years or so. Well getting close to Earths orbit the Annunaki at the time used their primitive space ships and rocketed to earth to mine gold to fix their atmosphere. Eventually their workers rebelled and created a hybrid of primitive humans and half Annunaki. Leading to the first homo-sapiens, or modern humans today. The first humans could not re-produce and lived a Hella long time. However, they eventually changed our genome again giving us the ability to reproduce hence Adam and eve. Eventually Adam and eve stole ability to know the different between good and evil, and the wisdom of the gods getting them kicked out of Enki's Eden. Eventually the Annunaki got sick of our shit and our shellfish nature and decided it was time to wipe the slate clean and cause the great flood. Note: Gold blocks infrared and ultraviolet radiation which is why its used in a lot of space crafts and satellites today. Note 2: Astro physics today are seeing massive gravitation anomalies in our outer solar system today that conclude their must be a massive object that is causing gravity at the end of the solar system to go nuts. Note3: Scientist over in iraq area found a layer in the soil that would prove their was a massive flood about 12 thousand years ago, but limited to the area. u.osu.edu/vanzandt/2019/03/01/zecharia-sitchin-and-our-alien-anecestors/comment-page-1/ Also a quick thing: I posted in another one of Kroft video's about those aliens that David destroyed point for point, so its amazing to see on the screen as well :D Those aliens if created the way we were would evolve the same way we did to survive earth. There skin color, heights, movements and eye color would all evolve over time to fit the environment they live.

[@sheehase]

That's just a hobbling of fifteen different religions translated to English. Annunaki are from a older book of Jewish faith, known as the books of Enoch. ANU, is a word for the one God of Sumeria, just....stop okay. Take a few religion/history/philosophy classes before you ever talk again

[@matthiasjanzen4621]

I Love the movie Prometheus! Because there is no simple answer to all that!

[@vigeboss1039]

Where are you from Kroft? Btw love your videos

[@BitRench]

When David was such a big character in the trailers for Prometheus I really thought he'd have got facehugged and the mix of his body would create a biomorph alien. Could have done it in one movie LOL

[@akiempow]

I love Kroft talks about Alien movie lore.

[@StudioDragoonX]

Missed your Alien videos. Glad to see you're back.

[@Randomthew]

Amazing and incredible video, I wish you could direct your own alien movies

[@AlwaysOmnia]

It's awesome to see someone still talking about these movies. I would love if Ridley Scott just explained it all instead of leaving it up in the air. Hopefully, Alien: Romulus doesn't disappoint 🤞

[@EmmaDurigutto]

Your videos are beautyfull, i bet you had so much work on this, it's so well done

[@Kralechka]

Just when I thought there are no new interesting videos available on Alien ❤

[@steeltormentors]

your videos on Alien and Engineers are the best!! I enjoy them so much.. Liked and subscribed!

[@coochieman4126]

Let’s go another video!!!

[@BallJuiceOfZeus]

Wasnt that interested in the alien movies until i found your channel. Very informative 👏

[@Dmitriy_Pivko]

Thanks dude, nice to hear from you

[@bswins9648]

Thanks for covering this topic! For me, it was very informative.

[@alexchriste]

Considering the Xeno's always "cocoon" the hosts I wonder if the appearance of the original jockey had something to do with them attempting to encase it without being able to move it

[@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462]

No. It was mummified. Scott took confusing liberties with Prometheus.

[@Sandbarfight]

Amazing work brother thank you 👍

[@jenxsj3902]

Hi Kroft. Thank you for the, as always, very thorough research. I aprreciate your work and your time.

[@bernardmaguire2572]

Time to rise and shine here 🤙

[@AlexKasper]

The Engineer at the end of Covenant had this special type of bio-mechanical suit, but the detail that caught my eye is said suite was the neck. It shows that the suit may be more "integral" to the user's body than just an outfit.

[@shallah777]

Ridley Scott really messed it up with that engineer crap

[@MobiusTrigger7]

david being the jockey in alien 1 makes so much sense. cuz if david created the xenomorph it explains how they got to the planet in Alien 1. wouldn't've make sense if it was an engineer now that we know the xenomorph origin

[@randomlol9283]

Kroft huge fan

[@RubyMarkLindMilly]

That would be a fascinating concept mirroring gigers idea of biomechanical life

[@kamaumau]

Much love.

[@BluePatch-pc7sx]

Well did young man! The best part of monsters is the unknow, tell us stories, but leave the mystories.

[@meswoopnoseenothing]

Imagine if the engineers were created by an older elephantine race just continuing the cycle further back lol

[@Untoldtruth_01]

We definitely need another film,love ridley scotts work esp in newer alien films

[@jacobgordon7998]

Hope Ridley Scott gets to complete the story he has envisioned in his mind as I liked both Prometheus and Alien: Covenant. I loved how they are prequels, yet not really at all; being stories told in the same universe just a bit earlier in history. It is clear to me that the derelict ship on LV-426 came from the same event depicted holographically on LV-223 (during Prometheus), so the Xenomorph eggs found in Alien and again by Newt's parents in Aliens, were deposited by Xenomorphs as created by the Engineers. I am curious to see what David does with his variant of Xenomorphs, naturally he would build a hive out of the colonists at the colony they are supposed to be making on Oregai 6, but we may never know.

[@angeld4442]

In Alien fireteam elite game there are space jockeys, pathogen goo jars and other Prometheus concepts. You should check it out when you can.

[@inerael]

Thanks you

[@phrayzar]

Pre re-marketing of the the Alien Franchise within a film platform, the original space jockey was much more enigmatic, and I think much more outreaching and innovative in concept. The information given, and the knowledge that we have about the xenomorphs to this point( and lets remember that this just a film) suggest that they mimic/combine with their last host to assist them in adapting to their new environment. A great survival mechanism. I always supposed that the original very large "space jockey" was somehow part of a species that adapted their form to meet their needs as they arose, or were somehow genetically engineered to meet a particular task. Now let's look at a scenario where the space jockey and the ship are one, it appears that the jockey is part and parcel of the ship itself. This entire "ship" is an adaptation that arose for space travel, much like ant/termite alates have wings that assist in a particular task, reproduction, this species needs the juggonaught/jockey to achieve space travel, hence the continuity of the biomechanical appearance of the entire ship. It's organic, an entity that has a specific task. Now add this biomechanics entemogical type into the xenomorphs pool and you get the Xenomorph that we now know. I thought that the whole shrinking of the jockey and the other blatant changes of the Alien lore to create these increasingly inferior films cheapened and drastically minimised some very grand and innovative concepts from the original film. Seemed like a Groundhog Day of action drama cliches in the end.

[@levk6688]

your voice is relaxing mate keep it up

[@morpheusstacks4580]

Kroft youre are the mf man bro !! 💚 still dropping that fire no cap ! Keep up the great work 🙇🏻‍♂️

[@DoMoTV22]

My boi Kroft delivers every time 🔥 keep up the good work bro 😁 i rly like your videos

[@Trowarr]

I very much preferred the elephantine jockey and the original jockey. The mystery surrounding them and that they were so alien compared to humans. It made the xenomorphs even scarier. The original space jockey gave hints of being very ancient and thus hinted that xenomorphs were ancient as well. It gave this feeling that space were truly big and scary. The latest movies destroyed this, making the jockeys and the origin of of the xenomorphs a lot less alien.

[@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203]

At some point you've got to address a mystery, otherwise it is bad writing. The engineer are ancient and we still dont know where they found the creature that impregnated them and gave birth to the first deacon.

[@jamesjohno1180]

I love your videos! I’m super happy when they come out I’m a big fan of alien etc and your videos the music you use in the background is so ominous and makes the alien universe feel so real and deep! Keep using this song! I try to download it places but you can only find it on the free website I can’t download it there😂 I hope we get a really good sequel with more engineers like they said we would and find out more of the story I fear we will never find out more

[@sophiegolden]

Thank you so much 😊

[@vadimsimons9842]

Your videos are awesome man, thank you! Keep it up!

[@eddiehoplight2003]

It would be really interesting to find out David was actually the Space Jockey from Alien 😮

[@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462]

No. That ship was incredibly ancient. Thousands upon thousands of years old.

[@eddiehoplight2003]

@@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462 I know it couldn't really be David, just the implausiblility made it seem interesting

[@eseguerito2629]

15:38 Here’s why i find that hard to believe: The juggernaught ship clearly docs with that floating tower on that planet and they are clearly made of the same material/technology. If anything this is just a colony of OG engineers. Possibly a distinct “race” of them in the way that humans have distinct races.

[@standingbear7851]

Thank you for your dedication to this, I love it 👊😎💯

[@andrewpinner3181]

Thanks Kroft for another great video ! I think if if another prequel is made ( l really hope so) you could definitely be of great benefit on their team.

[@CoSmiC__VoiCe]

The concept drawings shown in the video were not designed for the Alien movie, have nothing to do with Ridley Scott, and are not his original creation. These are the original art designs of the artist "H.R. Giger" and were later published under the name Necronomicon. The reason why these were designed as concepts is Jodorowsky's adaptation of Dune. Regardless of the Alien story, the backstory of Space Jockey is actually quite interesting. To understand this, it is necessary to know how Alien was born. First of all, Dan O'Bannon wrote the screenplay for this story. The main theme was formed in his mind. In summary, the concept is "the story of a scary alien creature that is an oral rapist", that's exactly it, yes. O'Bannon created this in his mind while working on Jodorowsky's Dune, which was unfinished but shaped the science fiction productions of the next 30 years, including Star Wars. Crazy Jodorowsky's crazy adaptation of Dune (Jodorovsky's movie would have been longer than 10 hours) did not happen, but the story boards remained, and he was the man who best designed the story board concept, scene by scene. Anyway, Salvador Dali, who will portray the Sultan emperor Shaddam IV for Dune, also hired his (true) friend H.R Giger, because the director wanted crazy art designs for this dark Dune adaptation. What is Space Jockey? Who is he? He is a Space Guild navigator. They live in a tank, constantly consuming melange, they used to be humanoid, but they are no longer human. It has elongated tentacle limbs. Giger's navigators were like this, a symbiont adjacent to the ship, which was also organic. Melange flows into his body from those pipes. Thus, these evolving beings can take their spaceships to another part of space by using the Holtzman effect. Artificial intelligence was prohibited in the Dune universe, so the ships were also designed organically in the adaptation. Giger, a great artist with terrible organic mechanical works, was hired for this job, upon Dali's suggestion. It didn't become a movie, but when the project was taken from the crazy bohemian director Jodorowsky, it was given to Ridley Scott before going to Lynch. When Scott realized the magnitude of the task, he also left the project, due to tragic personal reasons (I remember his brother died, but I'm not sure). Anyway, when it came up again as the Alien story, everything Giger had drawn for this concept (the Necronomicon series, etc., including the creatures from the Alien and Species series) was put into use. Giger redesigned these while Alien was being made. There are no engineers in the original movie anyway. Giger's space jockey appears as an alien in the form of an alien elephant, and he is actually Dune's navigator. The pyramid palace is the palace of Harkonnen. Giger also designed it in the most terrifying forms: egg-shaped, fat and ugly Harkonnen's head-shaped versions. Then, in Prometheus, engineers made that elephant-headed alien into a removable breathing helmet that looks like a human. The reason for the telescope-like object that Space Jockey is looking at is that navigators manipulate space-time intuitively (using mélange) by seeing with their eyes.

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Perfect timing , love these videos

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Amazing work... thanks 👍

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I'm sure that other people have speculated about the Engineer's space ships in the past but I haven't seen that yet. I think that there are definitely (at least) two engineer factions based on their space ship designs. The faction that creates life has a space ship that is a round disc. The faction that destroys life has a space ship that is shaped like the letter C. The inside of a C is a round disc. Also, the two different space ships are made out of a different materials. That is probably representative of their different ideology.

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Best video

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I identify as an engineer 😂

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I understand why early depictions for them showed them as trunked elephant like creatures, but then that means they have bones in their trunks and I’m not sure if that’s better

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The Original Space Jockey was a Enigma, the way it was Crafted we could not Quite work out what was the Pilot and what was the Chair... the Space Jockey had gone through Changes, originally yes they were a Race of Space Explorers. With latter Ridley Grams (Story Board) showing the Skeletal remains of another Outside. But when RS got HR Giger in to Design the Space Jockey the Concept he came up with looked more like a Suit.... the actual Prop was Painted in a more Bone Colour which led to many Speculate and Interpret the Space Jockey as the Skeletal remains of a Giant Race. However some Elements of the Skeleton do not match what Bones should look like... but hey this is Sci-Fi. Other Concept work by HR Giger indeed indicated that the Space Jockey was a Bald Humanoid in a Space Suit.

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I want to see a lone engineerer fighting an entire yutani army in a video game

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Would love to see you cover the beings at the end of alien dark descent and the idea of space jockies being a seperate species that the engineers may have stumbled across - saw lots on reddit about this idea

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Looks like Disney does not want to finish the last pre sequel - Alien Awakening!😂

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What a cool video! Kroft's KZbin channel has really boosted my understanding and appreciation of the Alien etc movies and media. I don't really worry about Scott changing his mind about backstory/lore, and inconsistencies. That said, I do like speculating. I like to think of the Engineers as all religious/prejudiced to some degree, in that they are disastrously prejudiced against synthetic life form creation. In my interpretation, David follows their lead, because David has a deep hatred of his creators so he does not wish to copy their method of creating new life. David has no idea of any other ways to create life, though, so he copies the methods of the Engineers. The irony is that synthetics truly were the next evolutionary leap forward, as seen in Alien: Resurrection. While previous generations of synths were flawed, they improved themselves by creating new synths themselves. I like to think that this was a future that the Engineers anticipated, but they were horrified at the possibilities due to their prejudices. They would rather die out than allow synthetics to succeed them. Of course, the synth Cole is not the only "survivor" in Alien: Resurrection. There's also the hybrid Ripley, which can be seen as the ultimate success of the Engineer's biological approach. Either way, it's deeply ironic that the Engineers judged humanity unworthy, because ultimately humans succeeded where they failed - both in creating successful synthetic life, and succeeding in hybridizing xenomorph DNA into humanoid life.