Tanaka’s whip looks a lot like whips used in self flagellation, which is a pretty blunt visual metaphor for pushing himself in work to the point of hurting himself when considering his moonscorch dialog
@Pugsr11 ай бұрын
I was not aware of this practice of self-flagellation, and after looking it up, it looks like you are right. I'll heart this comment so people see this.
@valiensr103710 ай бұрын
See, I took a different interpretation of the whip, but this is also a really good reading of the design!
@actualfrog610 ай бұрын
its needles whip
@poon_don10 ай бұрын
Man I used to literally self-flaggellate before and after work and my dumb ass still somehow never put that together. Well spotted
@theMoldynugget11 ай бұрын
Not only is Caligura genuinely a monster, hence why he's called that as his moonscorched version, but he also seems to be the only person who actively tries to "win" the festival, so his form can also be seen as what it takes and what one must become to even attempt at winning the festival, a "monster" by killing everyone
@Pugsr11 ай бұрын
Good catch, I could see that.
@jestermaniac313111 ай бұрын
if caligura wasn't weak as hell (7 dmg, get some gains bro) i could totally see him becoming a sulfur cultist in some odd timeline where he actually kills everyone else and wins the festival. just an interesting thought, he'd probably love that kind of life
@ryohei789711 ай бұрын
1:31 The creator answered this recently in a reply on twitter, about the uniqueness of the playable character's moonscorched forms. "no, the player characters aren't special. Just making every enemy unique would be quite a task. There is a flimsy excuse for this in the game. The villagers suffer from slow exposure whereas the moon exposure is higher by the time game takes place because days are running out" This does answer why it happens does quickly though, as they quite literally only had 3 days until termina was over.
@chihirovis182011 ай бұрын
I was the one who he replied to! 😂
@freshmadgod11 ай бұрын
I just asummed the participants in the festtival get extra attention. To liven up the festival on day 2 and 3. What would be more interesting to watch marina fighting abella or monster buff abella
@RainIsVibin11 ай бұрын
I think Karin's moonscorch being "difficult to tell where the transformation started" is a way to show her own split between her views on being a "valkyrie" and an internalized guilt, taking those vulture comments to heart. Or it's that she's so committed to thinking she's a valkyrie. Karin Funger.
@UniGya5 ай бұрын
There are some hints to Samarie’s dysmorphia in her obsession with Marina. During her transformation she will mention things like how she would watch Marina spend an hour each morning making sure her makeup was perfect, admiring that. I think given Marina’s talent with the occult as well she is what Samarie wishes she could be
@ScottCotton-jq1bv11 ай бұрын
O'saa's moonscorched form also continuously mumbles something that the player can't understand, similar to his whispering during the party talk in the basement: "It is just a mantra I keep chanting. To ease my mind."
@ryohei789711 ай бұрын
The chaugnar one was pretty much on point. It was something like being an 'elephant in a porcelain shop' sort of deal, a sort of big oaf which is what the creator tweeted, although he does want to flesh this idea out more in dialogue in future updates. And the deal about the woodsman's parasite is also very likely. If you use medical diagnosis on the woodsman, it suggests that it grew from his crotch, which would explain the origins of the parasite. And using medical diagnosis on chaugnar suggests the mutation started from the face. So combining everything, it was most likely another one of those parasites that attacked abella, causing the premature moonscorch.
@topcat5911 ай бұрын
Also that whip that judgment use is typically used for self punishment which would make sense, since he has a bit of self-hatred towards himself for not meeting his father‘s expectations.🐱
@ThaMorseCode11 ай бұрын
I think Chaugnar's masculine aspects are actually more of how Abella *wants* to feel. Her femininity is something that is never questioned in game, and in fact, most dialogue around Abella highlights her feminine aspects (ex. Marina calls her "pretty lady" and Henryk cat calls her). So I think her moonscorched form is reflecting more that she doesn't want to just be seen as a pretty lady, rather than that she doesn't feel feminine enough.
@Pugsr11 ай бұрын
Possibly. That would make some sense
@baksu789711 ай бұрын
I heard that the trunk came from the woodsman's wee wee when it came off and attached to her face. And then she got moonscorched
@samurai-butterfly73939 ай бұрын
no.
@baksu78979 ай бұрын
Awh
@downtownrats-ov1rx9 ай бұрын
@@samurai-butterfly7393 what a compelling argument. (sarcastic if you can't tell)
@cibor0711 ай бұрын
Samarie's interpretation was extremely limited, and would argue that her backstory plays a great deal into her moonscorch form: she Is a secretive dark priest apprentice from vatican City, one sequestered for her abnormal afinity with the supernatural. The rituals she has gone through have left her with a shortened life expectancy, one she Is aware of it. In her mind, her birth, or rather her body, Is the reason behind her misfortune. Once she faces moonscorch, she leaves behind the one thing that has limited her whole life. She Is finally herself.
@himalayas59083 ай бұрын
13:45 the giant is choking someone as apart of marcos backstory he was a contracted killer and was forced to kill. Marco feels forced to be violent as an insecurity (idk) so the choking person physically apart of him as a moonscorched shows that the moon god took advantage of that, also his hands are pummels and only pummels. They dont have fingers because once again they are only for violence/combat.
@taytay474311 ай бұрын
I think Miro explained that Abellas moonscorched form is based off the saying “elephant in a glass room”. Unfortunately, (i think miro says this as well) it wasn’t expanded upon bc she transforms on the first day. Apparently, she often feels clumsy and feels as though she ruins everything she touches. Hense the large and rough masculine form.
@nntytuu11 ай бұрын
Well done! I liked the idea of fighting off the moonscorch in the final rher battle your mentioned from the beginning. It makes sense since the player ends up in a seizure. My thoughts on Tanaka: The whip, or knout, could be symbolic as a form of punishment as his name implies. Whips have also been used historically as a way of pushing people to their physical limits.
@valiensr103711 ай бұрын
Tanaka has a cat o’ nine tails, a type of whip that was often used in the torture of slaves. It could mean that Tanaka either feels like a slave to whatever company he works for or a slave to his father’s expectations. It could also mean that he abuses his employees and is a “slavedriver.”
@SomeGuy-mt4hq11 ай бұрын
Or it could mean he's a freak in the sheets 😏
@frooty_satyr7 ай бұрын
For Henryk’s “Gentleman” I’m of the opinion that he wanted to be a part of high society, but because of the fact that poverty was all he knew, he had a twisted vision of what this looked like. Also, for Samaries “Dysmorphia” I think her backstory is VERY relevant to her moonscorched form, given that she literally was a child offering and the fact that the things she went through as an offering shortened her lifespan. Dysmorphia brought this out in the sense that she thought that any change was better than her original form.
@Pugsr7 ай бұрын
thats a very solid theory i never thought of.
@ladylunaginaofgames404 ай бұрын
@Pugsr I like to think the Gentleman is also like Sanji from One piece, as he's somewhat vulgar and would of abducted one of the contestants after he moonscorched.
@stevianheartbound11 ай бұрын
My theory for Tanaka's whip is that it's used like a flagellant whipping his own back to push himself forward.
@theplan-m6c6 ай бұрын
I think Cacoon weird body shape is a symbollize that marina doesn't know who she is anymore.
@brettgreen504411 ай бұрын
Am I the only one that thinks Abella's elephant head looks like a pelvic bone with a length of vertebrae for a trunk? That was what I took it for but I've never seen anyone else mention it.
@fignewton623511 ай бұрын
I always thought it being called Judgment was simply because due to Tanaka's father always judging him due to not meeting expectations.
@teddymitchell394111 ай бұрын
Don't look into the moon kids, look into the sun instead
@zippiizhappy11 ай бұрын
Yeah, directly
@teddymitchell394111 ай бұрын
@@zippiizhappy the longer you look the more vitamin D you get. Its a no brainer
@Aurora-bv1ys11 ай бұрын
Praise the sun
@diegosandoval184711 ай бұрын
The sulfur sun
@alexpenna10 ай бұрын
So unbelievably real
@topcat5911 ай бұрын
It’s likely the person the Giant is choking is likely the mobster, since if it wasn’t for him he wouldn’t walk down this path or even be here in this hellish game.🤔🐱
@Pugsr11 ай бұрын
Thank you cat emoji man
@gaminghipster120211 ай бұрын
I think it's more reasonable to say the body The Giant is lugging around is actually the opponent boxer that Marcoh was forced to kill or else the mobster Riccardo would hurt his sister as described in his backstory, considering Marcoh can gain killing intent on his way to deal with Riccardo I don't really believe he feels any guilt or remorse for killing him, but killing his opponent clearly weighed quite *quite* heavily on him, the giant being an outward corruption of what Marcoh feels could show how he possibly feels like a raging monster who didn't do enough to save his opponent and just murdered him in cold blood. Well that and the rather unsubtle talk dialogue where the giant screams "G-GUILT GUILT!" at you, it's the only thing the giant is actually capable of saying after all. Though i do understand where the body being Riccardo idea comes from, Marcoh does love tossing both of them, Riccardo over a balcony and the body at a maybe not so innocent bystander, or maybe Marcoh just really likes tossing people like he's a pitcher in baseball and really wanted to reflect that in his moonscorched form, it's all up to interpretation after all.
@jestermaniac313111 ай бұрын
need more pocketcat videos, totally go for it
@Pugsr11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I can look into it
@defnothankjwimbleton347510 ай бұрын
Mechanical dance’s scream sounds awesone
@nasrzain241811 ай бұрын
Miro missed his chance in turning Karen's moonscorched form into a bossy insufferable blonde
@jestermaniac313111 ай бұрын
nothing much would change
@KitsuneShapeShifter8 ай бұрын
Hah PocketKaren
@Aleyda29111 ай бұрын
Love your vids man, greetings from spain
@r.a.610410 ай бұрын
I’m new to the Fear and Hunger lore and your videos definitely rock. I’d love to see you break down pocket cat
@Pugsr10 ай бұрын
Don't worry I will. Also welcome, and I appreciate you liking my videos
@irishman233411 ай бұрын
love these vids
@WanderWomble8 ай бұрын
So, something I wonder and personally hypothesize about Sammie and her moonscorched form Dysmorphia. The thing is, she has strong telepathic capabilities, and simps so hard for Marina that she ends up having a huge one-sided parasocial relationship with her, right? Well? Given of course the trans mentality and themes and compicated gender upbringing Marina would naturally have, what else could possibly imprint onto Samarie. If she can delude herself into an idea of a "relationship" just from telepathy, how much else is she drawing in from the innermost thoughts and feelings of a conflicted trans woman? That's how I see it anyways. Or even, alternatively, who knows? We could have two transbians in our midst! With how much she yanderes and bases her own self around Marina on some level, I actually would wonder if that brought a strange gender crisis to her as well. Maybe reading Marina's mind was her egg cracking moment, realizing, "Oh shit!"
@ДмитрийВетровский8 ай бұрын
It was pretty common in Eastern Europe to put glass shards on the top of fences to keep people from climbing over them, like a cheap alternative to those nets they put on prisons' walls. Maybe Tanaka's glass things also allude to him keeping himself private and somewhat isolated?
@Pugsr8 ай бұрын
I did not know in eastern Europe they did that! Thats super interesting and a good theory!
@tankg92637 ай бұрын
Tanaka’s got glass on one arm and his face cause businessmen and windows don’t go well together. The thing on his head is a cubicle. And the whips is for self-falgellation, to represent him working himself to death.
@andreaquadrati10 ай бұрын
Marina there is obviously FFX's Anima Aeon. Bound top, monstrous sprouting bottom
@Sajbaisho101010 ай бұрын
13:40 Arsène 😂, Also tanaka here as a businessman is a reference to the businessman tanaka in persona series. And henry as james sunderland from silent hill 2? Probably.
@jma064510 ай бұрын
I think the name judgment for tanaka could be a metaphor for how he is "the one in charge" His father expected a lot from him and he was always judge but now that he "broke the glass sealing" he is the one how judge he became "judgement"
@marley78687 ай бұрын
also he's using the term glass cieling in a more liberal sense rather than the traditional given he's the scion of a big japanese firm whilst being japanese
@borantandogan55245 ай бұрын
weeping scope levi actively tries to miss you during his fight
@elcatrinc199610 ай бұрын
Dan met a fate worse than dead, becoming a furry
@roosajarvinen56982 ай бұрын
Karin's design is actually based on a painting called The Defense of Sampo
@OreWaLavai11 ай бұрын
Marina is the easiest moonscorched character to fight, simply run and collect your changeling soul.
@rena482011 ай бұрын
omg im here so early!! have a good day :3
@Pugsr11 ай бұрын
I was waiting in line at a drive-thru for breakfast and thought "Fuck it, I'll release it now."
@rena482011 ай бұрын
@@Pugsr honestly that's the best time to release anything, having breakfast and seeing how it goes!! btw enjoy your meal!!♡
@spaceace910311 ай бұрын
16:43 when do Karin and Caligura interact? Don't think ive seen any clips of that.
@rker10 ай бұрын
"the mastermind" got me lol
@Gyozsha8 ай бұрын
I would think that the contestants have advanced moonscorching due to them holding special souls needed to be harvested.
@RichterTheRat9 ай бұрын
It's called the Mechanical Dance because it resembles a ballroom dancer.
@agustin1268911 ай бұрын
Good video but still no Spamtom Theme. You are a Fear and Hunger KZbinr, you must use the Spamtom Theme.
@grianjuju943811 ай бұрын
True!
@Bcs69 ай бұрын
In my opinion, the glass all over tanaka's body is window glass, I think that since he's a workaholic overachiever man, the glass represents burn out and depression and what do you when you're depressed ? You jump in the window of the giant building you're working in to kys and cut yourself with the glass before falling to your death. About the whip, it could represents the slavery system inside some big corporations. He's probably in the middle of the hierarchy which means that he's constantly abused by the ones above him but that he also abuse the ones below him and since everyone is aware of that but continue to keep working then it's some form of masochism which explains the bdsm look of the whip
@akumjh7 ай бұрын
The way I understood it, moonscorch is Rher's "truth". As in, what Rher thinks is the "truth". So, because Rher think all humans are disgusting and irredeemable, all humans become disgusting and irredeemable when moonscorched. Even if that doesn't reflect the actual reality.
@missNekolover9111 ай бұрын
by this than how would Pav's and August's forms look like?
@Pugsr11 ай бұрын
Good question. I don't know a ton about august, but perhaps Pav's would be some war thing. As he became a bremen soldier to avenge his family and became what he hated most.
@missNekolover9111 ай бұрын
@@Pugsr well people call him Bremen pig, maybe he will look like some sort of pig? but because he doesn't care about peoples opinion he would golden?
@JuggernautWare11 ай бұрын
We also don't know Daan's form.
@JuggernautWare11 ай бұрын
Funny, that both P and A obssessed with killing Kaiser, and they both fail on it.
@missNekolover9111 ай бұрын
@@JuggernautWare but we do? it's Pocketcat
@RedBattler18578 ай бұрын
Now imma say this, so apparently Abella's moonscorched is based off a myth called the chaugnar (considering the name of the ms) The myth says that the trunk is parasitic, for abella i actually have no idea, but she thinks shes a "bull in a china shop" but the bull is a elephant
@deaddeer71795 ай бұрын
So actually can i ask why they moonscorch? I heard somwthing like its cuz of the moon god rher but also is there a way to prevent it?
@oynjx2hy3629 ай бұрын
Abella's moonscorched form reminds me of the facehuggers from Alien
@TTV-OXIDE1458 ай бұрын
So baseline moonscorch is just disfiguring ......but the festival causes u to become that which u have the most emotions about be it ur looks what u want and turning to those emotions wholeheartedly ive only seen shorts but thats just my thought maybe cause their chosen in a way
@WeirdTroll66611 ай бұрын
nice
@Synchro-tq1mo5 ай бұрын
Termina festivals has different moonscorched cause of their special souls
@jjdelany81308 ай бұрын
Could the transformation of the contestants be because of the strength of the souls they possess?
@BlackCatCoalition5 ай бұрын
what is the music at 4:02?
@Pugsr5 ай бұрын
Ashes of War - Fear and Hunger 2 Soundtrack
@BlackCatCoalition5 ай бұрын
@@Pugsr thank you!!
@DodoJacket8 ай бұрын
Samarie's story isn't fleshed out enough (pun intended) but it can be implied she has body dysmorphia, she is the least physically attractive female cast member which can go hand in hand with Marina's gender dysmorphia and why they were friends.
@TheAmazingRusski4 ай бұрын
Theyre like stands from JJBA but an inverse, horror version
@lucidfeen664010 ай бұрын
Huge love craft fan right here if ya need help im down to do some researcher for ya!
@sollyxdoomyx79056 ай бұрын
I hope the game adapt into 3d remake horror simulation.
@treadnokash75988 ай бұрын
I kinda wanna get moonscorched too perkele kept himself why wont i im confident in my sanity
@sarcasticstranger38179 ай бұрын
Dang it.. I was convinced that Marina's moonscortched form was supposed to be an allegory on how caterpillars rest in a cocoon and emerge as a butterfly. Marina's true gender (boy) was hidden from the world (cocoon), but outwardly she looked like a beautiful girl (butterfly).
@josedorsaith526110 ай бұрын
Marina's Father wasn't "mis gendering" them. If your gender identity is hijacked by your parent for their own wishes, as with Marina's mom, you can't act as if that was Marina's choice
@elcatrinc199610 ай бұрын
The creator confirmed she is a girl, please, don't talk if you lack information
@BULMASDESTRUCTIN9 ай бұрын
@@elcatrinc1996 this is literally the debate "is this a woman or mental misdiagnosed illness" and I'm afraid your game developer can't just decide that on a whim. Unless its that in his universe it is a woman cause its a work of fiction so it plays by his rules but idk personally I think we have developed some schizophrenic relationship with the concept of truth.
@elcatrinc19969 ай бұрын
@@BULMASDESTRUCTIN That is not even a debate, the real issue here is you being transphobic for no reason whatsovever besides parroting arguments others vomited directly inside your skull. "tHe dEvElOpEr cAn'T dEcIdE tHaT oN a wHiM" My brother in Cristo, they MADE the game, they are currently still making the game! Thsi is Not J.K. Rowilng suddenly claiming a character is gay years after the story was finished, The dude no only made the table, he is still working on the chairs! The only schizo here is you because apparently seeing the word "trans" instantly sends you on attack mode like a Bull watching a cape being waved in front of it. Maybe ask yourself they live rent free inside that little head of yours.
@anthonylarajr889211 ай бұрын
Wish non playable characters be playable
@thequeenofcringe15859 ай бұрын
I have a lot of thoughts about O’saa’s moonscorched form. If you ask me, it’s absolutely about his fear of being controlled and him not being able to do anything about it but watch. This whole idea comes from the parasitic looking growth where his head was and the eyeball that looks like one of O’saa’s eyes.
@PinchyTheKittyGirl9 ай бұрын
It's their Apostle forms.
@neuralthief70824 ай бұрын
No, I will not think of Hwei from League of Legends…
@ducduong91711 ай бұрын
wait so marina is male or female?
@sowhat_idontcare15111 ай бұрын
Female. Trans girl
@KK4ever200011 ай бұрын
Male.Has a dick
@dontkickmychick607611 ай бұрын
Female. Headcanon she had Sylvian magic used on her to replace the dick with appropriate hardware so it isn't gay to want to smash her. (Also I think I've seen official art of her with Tiddies and unless she's stuffing her shirt I don't think they had invented implants for that at that time, nor could she afford them, so this *miiiight* be possible)
@zerrodefex11 ай бұрын
A boy pretending to be a girl.
@DeDoDoDoDeDaDaDa10 ай бұрын
Male
@GhenTuongHB7 ай бұрын
5:25 I think it's better to just speak the word and be done with it. The more you show you recognise it will be wrong, the more disingenuous it feels. Every right mind person understands it's hard to speak a foreign language.