All of doctor Lilith Sternin's dramatic entrances [Frasier]

All of doctor Lilith Sternin's dramatic Entrances [Frasier].

[@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal]

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[@renatoism]

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[@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal]

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[@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal]

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[@eddieboyky]

Lillith is one of the greatest sitcom characters ever created.

[@danieljones8587]

Amen to that! ❤

[@robadams5799]

She can rock a swinsuit, too . . . and a little black dress!

[@geordiejohnston9815]

@eddieboyky Totally agree, Lilith was gorgeous and hilarious.

[@palmvictory]

@@geordiejohnston9815…and I was just about to add that Bebe Neuwirth is beautiful.

[@sunshineandwarmth]

I love this actress. Hadn't seen her in years then someone told me there were some new episodes of Frasier. How many years have gone by? If it wasn't for her voice I'd never have recognized her.

[@jec1ny]

Bebe Neuwirth is just solid gold.

[@jpp7783]

And she’s become hauntingly attractive as an older woman (watch Julia for more).

[@catsupchutney]

total smokeshow

[@EagleOneM1953]

She's a terrific actress... and a great singer too... I've seen a video here of a Broadway show she was in where she sang and danced....absolutely splendid... such a talented lady...

[@capnjackgallows3204]

Smoke show? Mate that sounds stupid , it sounds like a product of mechanical failure ​@AllanPeda

[@bobmunro9104]

Lilith was my favorite character on Cheers.

[@Theomite]

"Ohhhhh they know you." Pure 999.99% Sideshow Bob oozing all over that line.

[@jessicamartin1701]

Very astute observation! That hadn't originally occurred to me - but after I saw your comment, I replayed it and was like "SIDESHOW BOB!!!!" And now I can't unhear it!

[@genghiscan2918]

Oh cousin Merle, really?!

[@sarahbreisch4750]

I will send you to heaven... before I send you to HELL

[@tophers3756]

Glad I'm not the only one who heard that.

[@Theomite]

@@tophers3756 Did you also see Frasier's watch disappearing between 5:26 and 5:28 ?

[@509sAngel]

The writing on this show was unsurpassed. Still funny to this day.

[@Celisar1]

And why shouldn’t it be funny today? Good humor never gets old.

[@sunshineandwarmth]

Only other show that makes .me laugh like this one is "Fawlty Towers." Some recommendatio, eh?❤

[@ankitsharma1983]

Indeed. Pity that its recent iteration is nowhere as good.

[@MathematicalCowboy]

I agree. Absolutely timeless humor. But my favorite member of the cast was Eddie!!! 😊

[@karlbassett8485]

Martin's "I took half a step back before I realised she was talking to the dog" line was gold.

[@Leadeshipcoach]

it’s amazing… most callers you can’t recognize the voice of the actor. But the moment Lilith comes on… you know!🤣

[@samirabdel-aziz478]

Oh...they know her...

[@Leadeshipcoach]

@@samirabdel-aziz478 🤣🤣.. I can hear Fraiser!🤣👍

[@chantzfanello6674]

Holy cow you are so right 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 there is no mistaking her voice hahaha

[@spudsinyourduds]

You could tell when Reba Mcintyre called in. That skit was hilarious

[@regould221]

Like when you heard Suzanne Pleshettes voice in the dark at the end of the last episode of Newhart.

[@titusrider7948]

Lilith "After deliberating several hours I decided to be playful" 😅

[@1Cheytown]

Oh is that what they call it Lilith? Girl knew EXACTLY what she was doing... no one plays Fraiser like she can

[@heymannyg]

I could see why Frasier was attracted to Lilith. She's extremely intelligent and incredibly beautiful.

[@trueaussie9230]

But EXTEMELY tightly wound.

[@weltschmertzz]

​@trueaussie9230 that's just an excuse of weak men

[@trueaussie9230]

@@weltschmertzz An 'excuse' for what?! 🤔

[@10293]

@@weltschmertzzNot really, no

[@jmh2105]

Like The RoadRunner & Coyote!

[@OptimumBritannis]

You missed out the best line after Lilith's husband left her: "No sooner do I get the closet of my dreams than my husband comes out of it!" hahaha

[@loulasher]

I remember that line from when first aired!

[@fkrgebs6773]

Bebe Neuwirth must have had so much fun with this character

[@digital_gravity]

If you watch the cheers clips she is often struggling not to break character.

[@KNPrince]

I think Bebe Neuwirth once stated that she loved the character of Lilith.. due to the fact that she could speak in a monotone, show next to no emotion.. be a total bitch and get paid oodles of money for about a days work... What was not to love!

[@leedensmore4056]

Bebe played herself in an episode of "Will & Grace". When they kept referring to her as Lilith, she finally admitted "I loved that role. I wanna play that bitch for life!"

[@TrishLan93]

@@KNPrinceI’ve heard that she said that. What’s not to love!

[@chrism9037]

The writing on that show was unbelieveable

[@Goawaykidyoubotherme]

Hell i took half a step back before I realized she was talking to the dog

[@Leadeshipcoach]

😂

[@trueaussie9230]

Me too!! 🤣

[@MsRosieA]

Excellent writing. Nothing went to waste, every angle was considered.

[@nahdi]

😂

[@thomaslongshore1295]

Of all the funny lines in the show's, that one stands out. Too good.

[@stephieirene1]

The casting of Bebe Neuwirth was a stroke of true genius. Also, the irony of Niles poking fun of getting married in Vegas when that's where he married Daphne.

[@garrettsaurer8652]

It was in Reno, not Vegas 😮

[@gawainethefirst]

I would have thought it the hypocrisy of her making fun of anyone’s failed marriage.

[@TrishLan93]

@@garrettsaurer8652true, but it was a Vegas type setting, lol 😊

[@stephaniek1076]

Yeah...but v similar dynamic, after all.

[@inc0nstienT]

Wait Niles married daphne ???? Sheesh bro u could put a spoiler alert before

[@RandomGuy285]

Niles' "ditto" gets me every time

[@sheilaburns8977]

IKR!!! I crack up every time I see it.

[@js4717]

I don't usually laugh out loud but he delivers this so well, it cracks me up!

[@Chris_Troxler]

If Wednesday Addams was ever presented as a grown woman.👆🏾

[@MsRosieA]

Ooh, YES!!! I went to leave you a comment rather than a “Like” - I didn’t want to spoil the round number..

[@12classics39]

Well, she IS Lilith’s daughter … at least she was for many, many performances.

[@mwatts-riley2688]

I m g !!! Band on! That's it, that's it.

[@dragonchaserkev]

Bebe has played Morticia Addams on stage!!!

[@alyzu4755]

"Oh, they know you". 😂😂😂

[@KNPrince]

*Presses the mute button dramatically on his call board...* Roz... What exactly does call screening mean?

[@larrymead151]

That little black dress definitely works on her.

[@g0nt411]

She leaves her hair down when she wants to kill.

[@myfavoritefairy]

Her dancer's body!

[@CBiggs-vz9be]

It’s doing everything for her legs.

[@1Cheytown]

The "Encore" dress? I thought it was red

[@dixiepoet]

I think it is dark burgundy.

[@james-p]

I forgot how blisteringly funny this show was!

[@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal]

I'm glad I gave you a blister then.

[@feg3akatrey144]

Fantastic video montage representation of Lilith and her value to key storylines. I Will ALWAYS howl in laughter at Lilith’s comment about Frasier “doling out worthless little advice pellets from your psychiatric Pez dispenser”😂😂😂😂

[@johanneaube9791]

Such a funny line! Haha!

[@raynacurtis]

1:56 Her best line ever…

[@Landis963]

Roz(/Peri Gilpin) absolutely dying of laughter at her boss' discomfort just makes the scene.

[@jmj5388]

One of the greatest lines in sitcom history!

[@katherineray1980]

I grew up on Cheers and Frasier, and I live for the scenes where Bebe Neuwirth as Lilith lets her hair down. She’s stunning. Impeccable casting too.

[@1Cheytown]

She still is

[@joeydigrazia765]

Lilith, a lady of classy intelligence and smoldering sarcasm, brilliant♥♥♥😁

[@NickJohnCoop]

“ Brian was looking for someone a bit more feminine…..and he found him!” That was shocking enough that Frasier couldn’t even think of mocking her. The entire sequence shows how strong this program was, line from Frasier about her dress and then Niles ‘ Ditto ‘ is just too perfect.

[@wanorman2007]

"I finally got the closet of my dreams... and my husband comes out of it."

[@jimspink2922]

When she uttered that line I could sympathize with Lilith especially loosening her husband to another man not a woman.

[@redacted2275]

Why "shocking"? That's an asinine assumption you're making... the character of Frasier was never crass. Plus, David Hyde Pierce is gay but unlike current times, the 90s wasn't out of its mind and could balance itself between a joke and the limits of offense.

[@schoo9256]

Roz being ready with the union sign is top tier comedy

[@g0nt411]

"It's time you taste the forbidden fruit" I need to use that line someday.

[@heshy14]

The writing on this show was British in its brilliance. Bravo! 👏👏👏

[@TheFiddle101]

Wonderful! Lilith and also Frasier's agent Bebe Glazer, were terrifically scary characters.

[@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal]

Compilation of Bebe coming soon so stay tuned.

[@myfavoritefairy]

I loved Bebe, she was hilarious! 😂😂😂

[@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal]

That compilation is now live kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYq2dKGJpslsbpYsi=4ts-YNVXPhfRPgJQ

[@vinnynj78]

"I felt a certain tingle in the knob."--Had me rolling when I got it.

[@mina_loi]

everyone's reaction to lilith is my favourite reoccurring character in the series.

[@emontzka]

I love how he goes full Sideshow Bob with “Oh, they know you”. 😅

[@Wolfsbane909]

i love to see her interact with an life coach because apparently life coaches think can be better than psych

[@michaelwerner5165]

Lilith’s entrances are never dramatic, but always necessary.

[@jessicamartin1701]

I think the drama of her entrances was provided by everyone else reacting to her entrances! "Oh gawwwd! Don't you live in Boston?!!!"

[@susancampbell703]

Years ago, my dear uncle gave me a huge compliment: "you remind me of Lilith"!!!

[@lizzfrmhon]

Roz was such a savage.

[@1thetvzone]

Roz was what Carla was on Cheers= super savage..

[@josefschiltz2192]

Daphne: - with one of her psychic headaches: "Oh! I've never had a throbbing like this! There's some kind of negative force out there!" After shaking hands with Lilith: "When I shook hands with that woman, I lost all feeling in me arm!"

[@scottslimmon7956]

Remember when Lilith's plane got off the ground, Daphne's headaches went away fast?

[@josefschiltz2192]

@@scottslimmon7956 Yes. She was lying on the sofa and then there was that gradual realization and pain free wonder when the 'negative force' departed!

[@katesatriani]

but she could never see how godawful her manipulative shrew of a mother was or her awful brothers - I loved Frasier and still do but lookiing back Daphne was my least favorite character- she was given way too much lee way even before she hooked up with Niles. Lillith was way too good for Frasier- he couldnt control her and he for all his psychological insight didnt want an equal in marriage - he wanted to be the star in the marriage as well. Fortunately Lillith was strong but I think Frasier allowed his father and Daphne in particular to be really insulting and cruel to Lillith because he couldnt admit that it was his fault their marriage ended. and yet I think she was the only woman he really respected.

[@chrisarseneault5617]

So happy that the appearance by Lilith on the new Frasier was included!

[@myfavoritefairy]

Loved that monotone voice with the slick wit! One of the funniest & best shows ever, none these days can hold a candle to it.

[@jamestiscareno4387]

Out of all the gorgeous women who appeared on Frasier Lilith was the hottest of them all.

[@animaltvi9515]

Apart from roz.

[@garycooper7345]

​@@animaltvi9515 or Daphne

[@TigerBigmo]

Roz was indeede hot AF!​@animaltvi9515

[@keithbannister9271]

All the gorgeous women? There really weren't that many, definitely not anywhere as many as on Two And A Half Men..... 🤔

[@jamlittlefield]

Her dancing career shows through

[@crivket1235]

Lilith is perfect for him ❤ she keeps him in check 😅

[@thegray5730]

Bebe Neuwirth is sooooo alluring as Lilith.

[@markmyword8220]

Niles, sorry to hear your marriage ended in a shambles. Ditto

[@cleopatracatra2097]

Touche

[@PatrickLongblkwhtrbbt]

Martin abandoning his cane😂😂😂

[@arieladelinechoo9845]

Never get tired of Frasier since 1994. I watch it all the times. The characters are brilliantly connecting to one another and the dialog was so funny. This TV show is still the best one for next 30 years.

[@lanalorenzen]

I absolutely think that David Pierce is a comedic genius. He was so underused in previous movies. There are three brilliant physical comics: Sean Hayes, Jim Parsons and David Pierce, but Pierce edges them out in every aspect of the creative processes.

[@mojo500100]

Pierce was also very funny as the tightly-wound Theodore in the “The Powers That Be” in the ‘90’s. Lost in a lousy time slot, the network axed the series prematurely, and now it’s hard to find.

[@dereklwashington1132]

Not a huge Hayes fan but you nailed the other two

[@MinuteManClips]

How do you not name Michael Richards? How is Jim Parsons a physical comedian?

[@Seamus322]

Monty Python's John Cleese in the "Ministry of Silly Walks"

[@cloverboy75]

John Ritter in Three's Company is the best in my opinion.

[@saturnbat]

Incredible compilation of Lilith! I like her even more.

[@evoxpop2088]

Perfect, dry delivery of a serious "burn" with no regrets, that is Lillith. Love her character and her Broadway performances ❤❤🎉

[@1Cheytown]

Have you seen her current run in Caberet!? OMG I know she's a long shot at the Tony's in a couple of weeks but dang it, she deserves it

[@adalovelace521]

Lilith is striking

[@wanderlust62]

I love Bebe and as Lillith she rocks, I laugh so hard... the episode when Roz puts her call on the air is one of the best!

[@gheller2261]

"Oh, they know you" in his Sideshow Mel voice. Hilarious.

[@chriskay1449]

Bob. Sideshow Bob.

[@d-money5976]

How could you not LOVE Lilith

[@MEDUSHAA]

I always thought the chemistry between these two were spot on.

[@gregpendrey6711]

Ew the wet spot?

[@janettamcgee8124]

My then husband once berated me as thinking that I am above other people. His reasoning was that I loved Frasier, I laughed at Niles, Lilith, Frasier and I "understand that stuck-up snotty humor that no one else gets" AND I was just like Lilith. I drive a pick up truck and have a horse! He liked The Simpsons. The snarky biting humor on Frasier reminds me of the witty movies of the 1930's. It is the sharpest show ever.

[@yvettescheiman4991]

Absolutely right! I felt smarter just because I caught the jokes! And not all the jokes were highbrow. Roz, Martin and Daphne's characters weren't exposed to higher education but they were naturally smart and funny. Brilliant writing and wonderful characters, brought to life by talented actors, all of them!

[@mediocreman2]

I like Fraser and The Simpsons.

[@stereomois]

Any movie in particular? The few I've watched from that era have been fun.

[@jimmym3352]

@@mediocreman2 Me Too. Or at least the early Simpson's for me. And of course Sideshow Bob.

[@lilacinsd]

​@@yvettescheiman4991So true! Remember how Daphne figured out why Martin didn't want to show his cane in season 1? Brilliant, and the Frasier kinda got praised for helping 😛

[@johnabbottphotography]

I think people don't understand when they watch this how incredibly stunning baby is in person..... and how much her delivery of lines allows you to see past that. Of all of the acting that she does, the most incredible thing is that she is delivering lines that both have no emotion behind it, but have the greatest emotional impact. So when she shows the slightest emotional vulnerability, it hits you even harder. What an incredible actress!

[@1Cheytown]

Bebe's timing and delivery are second to none and she is a Julliard alum after all

[@DialitDown]

@@1Cheytown I thought she left Juilliard early?

[@1Cheytown]

@DipDuckDive I'm seeing conflicting things (one source says she has her BFA from there but I've also seen what you've seen...that she dropped out because she found it "stifling" and lacked Broadway style training classes).

[@DialitDown]

@@1Cheytown I dunno. It’s late and I have a headache lol

[@RioRav]

How I wish I could have a Frasier Pez-dispenser

[@alexloyola6762]

Love Roz's chaotic energy in that first scene.

[@williethomas5116]

Even Martin laughed at Lilith cracking on Niles and Maris.

[@darnegoldie6705]

How have I never seen this tv series before? It's funny! I'm gonna start watching it . . .today. Fresh comedy material. Lucky me.

[@debrarobey3749]

Living under a. Rock. ?! Highly. Recommended. 😊

[@fun2dew377]

You should watch “Cheers” as well. The original show this one spun off from and introduced these two characters. You can watch them fall in love for the first time.

[@RickaramaTrama-lc1ys]

You are in for a Real Treat~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@DrGreenWolf]

I always loved Bebe! Her years of dancing on Broadway kept her legs toned and sexy!

[@jenniferfriesen7691]

My absolute favorite show of all time.

[@bettycogswell9851]

Always loved Lilith.

[@justpeachy4851]

She looks so much like my favorite grandma now that shes older. I love her even more

[@Xorgrim]

Best Sitcom ever. The dry wit! Amazing.

[@deviritter5232]

Niles has the best lines

[@CeliaMitchell-ot5ir]

This shows was hysterical funny. Love all the characters

[@zanelee-ns4eo]

I'd forgotten how funny this show was. thanks!

[@wendyh2708]

Lilith is the absolute BEST character to come out of Cheers. Love her!

[@noirjacques3274]

Seeing this, and its underlying meaning, I’m reminded of the 2 of in an ep of Cheers. Frasier was to be going away somewhere and someone enquired “oh, little pleasure trip” to which Frasier replied “No, lilith’s coming”. 😂😂

[@BeautifuLakesStreamsBiologists]

This gets a best of the internet award! I get an even better chuckle because we did some work for Kelsey. Frazier is not that far from Kelsey. The man's acting is a gift to humanity.

[@aewtx]

That guy they got to play Cam Newton did superb, because he was just like Frasier! So pompous and grandiose, yet strangely likeable.

[@BeautifuLakesStreamsBiologists]

@@aewtx I think they are likeable because their flaws and insecurities that we identify with shine through their bravado. Cheers!

[@keithbannister9271]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@DraGnFly007]

One of the BEST SHOWS EVER!

[@Abmotsad]

One of the absolutely, unreservedly hottest women to ever appear in any medium ever. If the Trojan War had been fought over Lilith, it'd still be happening.

[@geraldstephens6612]

She will have gotten rid of both Achilles & Agamemnon & torched the Trojan Horse.

[@lisaahmari7199]

😅😂 I love it! She truly is awesome!!

[@funguy170]

She'd av' won! 10 minutes flat flat.

[@funguy170]

Why can't I edit????!???

[@lisaahmari7199]

@funguy170 It's Okay! She makes lots of men stutter!😋

[@ericgaw113]

The way he says, "Oh, they know you. "

[@najbritcol]

Brilliantly-played character.

[@aslkdjfzxcv9779]

the reactions are hysterical.

[@steliosstamatialis8169]

"Well, Seattle, we have a celebrity of sorts on the line. This is my ex-wife, Lilith." "What do you mean, 'celebrity'?" "Ohhhh.... *they know you!*"

[@THOMMGB]

Frazier’s comeback line is just dripping with deep psychosis and darkness.

[@jeffreywj7773]

Thank you. Seeing this collection of entrances put a big smile on my face this evening. And a few out loud laughs. Cheers.

[@GB-ps2ik]

No, not Cheers…. Frasier 😉

[@corinnerogersconstable223]

Great show! Love you Lilith and how you make Fraser squirm ! You two are hysterical ! Thank you all on Fraser!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@rogerhawkins6433]

Wow, that dress!!!

[@bagofchicken]

First class compilation.

[@barnabyaprobert5159]

Bebe Neuwirth will always be hot af. That is all.

[@docdave15]

"Oh, baby...." Same, Frasier. Same.

[@davidmorell3785]

Lilith will always be my favorite.

[@sarahg2653]

Lillith was always my favorite. Great character. Niles is an _extremely_ close second.

[@tatata1543]

One of the cheers moments that stick in my mind is Lilith walking through the door of the bar and either Norm or Cliff saying: “uhoh, frost warning”.😂😂

[@THOMMGB]

I clearly remember that it was Cliff’s line.

[@tatata1543]

@@THOMMGB I can definitely hear him saying it.

[@LarrySanger]

Always thought this actress was gorgeous!

[@Toby_the_Glen]

11:54 Wow, those 'dancers legs'

[@Orcl1100]

“My God.” “My Goddess!”

[@MrCraigblaze]

I LOVED Lilith .She was my All time favorite..!!❤❤😅😅😅

[@GabrielCsaba]

Man I gotta rewatch this show. Or actually watch it, which I now realize I never did end to end.

[@briansounalath]

Omg this makes me wanna watch all the shows. I remember this as a kid on tv but I was too young to enjoy it. Now I’m old. And this works.

[@QUICKBOOKS1]

That's awesome from Martin @ 4:12!

[@vcello6450]

That's one of my favourites from this show

[@Phi1618033]

This reminds of when I had a crush on Bebe Neuwirth back when Cheers was on TV.

[@Scout-ff6sh]

They had beautiful cabins on this show.

[@davetomlinson9063]

Great character needs her own series

[@Makoto03]

Thank you. I loved Frasier. Lilith's appearances were always fantastic.

[@chrisegan9088]

Thanks so much. I just finished the 12 seasons and yours is the best video I’ve watched today. Perfectly executed. Well done.

[@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal]

I'll eventually remake it going over all her dramatic entrances in cheers and Frasier. I also have a bunch of other compilations made.

[@roachman1412]

It was great to see them both together again on the new frasier

[@Kanuck1818]

"Ohhhhh...THEY KNOW YOU..."

[@michaelbryant2071]

She is strickingly beautiful in the right light, in a film noir-vampire kind of way.

[@MTMFan]

I love this!!

[@cindyreeves5048]

Lilith is the reason I watched this show.

[@keithbannister9271]

Daphne was the reason why I watched the show, i was so smitten with her when first seeing her on the Benny Hill Show...🤔

[@user-xi3co3yu2z]

Bebe is also an excellent dancer, stage performer

[@fonziebulldog5786]

I will for sure always love this show. 😄❤️👍

[@WorkerAndy]

I love how they included the reboot too!

[@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal]

So this isn't actually a "they" thing. I'm just one dude spending often times hundreds of hours to make these videos for free unmentioned. I'm glad you liked it though, I think this thing might get more people to watch it.

[@excrono]

@@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormalYou do edit these comps like many networks are currently doing officially for their shows on KZbin (such as for “The Office”). A very flattering comment!

[@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal]

@@excrono honestly of the ones I've seen, they miss a lot of stuff. Like theres one of every Norm! And even in just the first season I've got like three or four that they misses.

[@excrono]

@@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal Very true, your comps are complete and let people see entire character arcs across this series. Your Daphne comp is the gold standard. But people see that work and consider it to be as legit as a team from a network doing it officially and make an assumption it was made by a team instead of one fan! Wanted to double down on my original comment. CBS allowing these to exist speaks to how they work with their fan base to grow communities behind their series.

[@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal]

@@excrono well, I did have to render some of these multiple times to get past copyright. Maris especially I think twenty times I had to make changes.