All Of These Games Are Going To Die.

[@Its_Toko]

im getting the impression some people only read the title/didn't watch till the end and don't understand that i actually WANT these games to succeed no one likes marvel rivals spiderman more than me. he's mine.

[@bambampewpew32]

lmao yeah dps doom in marvel rivals is cool, wish I could play it (haven't tried the beta)

[@Deathstroke53221]

​@tenyearsinthejoint1 how is it clickbate the vid is called all these games are going to die and he list all the games that are most likely to die but at the end he gives his opinion saying he doesn't want them to die but he thinks they are going to die how is that clickbate

[@ColtonWilson-s6v]

You should research what deep rock Galactic is. It’s like the perfect game

[@yorukage5926]

Make your titles what the video is actually about and people won't comment before watching. Simple

[@edsonmontoya7381]

Bro says he wants this games to succeed and then miss informs on their content to make them look worse than they are

[@ryanmccrary2519]

All Marvel Rivals characters are free from launch and beyond.

[@Its_Toko]

Oh that's FATTTT. Very good to hear, I love Marvel Rivals. Apologies for not hearing about this sooner.

[@themanager10yearsago29]

@@Its_Toko what do you mean you dont hear about it?

[@PrimalZeno]

​@@themanager10yearsago29 he didn't follow the news

[@andyfox4484]

Simple math. Those games make money out of skins, the more characters a player has access to, the higher the chance of them buying a skin, because they already have access to the character that skin was made to. The money they will make out of ppl paying for characters is nothing compared to the money they make from skins.

[@Louis-lt7is]

Yeah and they plan on adding more characters soon

[@Manguy20]

The devs for marvel rivals literally said that all of the characters will be free and unlocked at launch and beyond

[@pvprangergod4024]

marvel rivals is just slop, should be a mobile game.

[@JeremyRuiz805]

The finals didn’t die. And if it did, it certainly wasn’t because of cosmetics. People left because of bad decisions on game modes and ranked play. It’s still getting ~15k players

[@snaggyak]

That’s on steam alone 15K-40K S3

[@sv_1407dl]

i wouldnt call a game with 15k dead. it was just huge on launch as many games are. but the 15k is just testament to how solid its design is

[@nonr.2347]

​@@sv_1407dlAnd it really is only the design because the devs aren't even gonna have any event this season

[@Batgaer]

I'm still enjoying the finals

[@paclenny]

Someday a lot of people will reach THE FINALS.🙏

[@X-EN7171]

If The Finals dies imma crash out, it's really do love that game TBH. I know "micro transactions bad" but they're so inoffensive and genuinely good that it's no issue. The battlepass feels like good progression, and once I beat it early I still play for the loop and for the fun moments with The Boys.

[@GrouchyGrizz]

This guy just said the game was dead because it has micro transactions which most other games have a form of that. Then also his reason was because we don’t know the dev team. That makes no sense. Embark is a new studio so the way they make it to the top is by making games!

[@frosty7336]

@@GrouchyGrizz and it's a well known fact that most of the dev team of finals is people who developed battlefield 1 but then left cus of the direction ea was taking dice.

[@Joepoeee]

Your take on the finals is terrible. One because their cosmetics are crazy good and the most fair priced compared to any other game. Also 6 maps, many variants, and 5+ modes depending on how you look at it. We all want it to succeed and theres still a large playerbase

[@LostMyPowerArmor]

And also you can only pay for battle pass once and then if you are cautious with your multibucks then that's it.

[@zechariahcaraballo8765]

10k players being considered dead is crazy to me, the games not dead till I cant play and its not like the finals or other games take longer than a minute to find a match

[@PenguinULT]

I actually cannot believe he showed footage of Rumbleverse and Knockout City and then claimed that The Finals is dead. Fucking mental.

[@cloudboy08]

@@PenguinULT there's a thing in the gaming community right now calling games "dead" as soon as the smallest setback happens and it doesn't pull Fortnite numbers. it's literally the all-or-nothing mentality

[@h2woah127]

10k via steam. Theres only platforms too

[@GrouchyGrizz]

@@h2woah127 correct. People never take into account for console until recently with the finals anyway. Which according to the devs it’s like 250,000 - 300,000 daily players.

[@Nirwanaa]

Exactly

[@noahhill841]

deadlock is already making rounds when you need an invite from a friend who is playing, it's gonna stay high imo

[@heartsockette]

it's also just fun as fuck

[@noahhill841]

@@heartsockette cant try it since valve wont send the invite even though i tried multiple people, also dont know the specs needed

[@asddap]

@@noahhill841 Some ppl I invited were also like you. Their invites never arrived no matter what they did. The only thing that worked was making brand new steam acc.

[@bambampewpew32]

@@noahhill841 lol mine took hours and came only once I went to bed, but I played today

[@noahhill841]

@@bambampewpew32its been a lot longer since i first asked

[@PeterPq]

Not to be the guy who defends companies but the info in The Finals bit is just flatout wrong, people interested in the game keep just seeing this hate-bait content The game launched with 3 maps (Monaco, Seoul, Vegas) and since then got one map per season (SYS$HORIZON, Kyoto) and a new one is about to begin with a new one, speculated to be Rome for the *6th map.* One map per season is reasonable (they're not small maps and each of them have a bunch of gameplay/terrain and weather variants the game mixes from) It did launch with 2 gamemodes, (Cashout and Bank-it), and there are *5 unique ones now* (not counting ranked-unranked variants as separate); World Tour (new name for Cashout tournaments with a leaderboard) Terminal Attack (ranked and unranked version) Quick Cash Bank-It Power Shift, + not to mention limited time gamemode variants. The game isn't "dead"- it just lost the initial hype from when every youtuber made a video on it, but since then it has had a steadily okay playerbase. Would you call Helldivers 2 dead? It took a bigger dip in popularity %-wise in player count.

[@PeterPq]

The criticism on skins is kinda valid as the team went on vacation recently actual content slowed down this season, but you cannot say that their monetization is predatory. You can earn enough currency to buy the Battle Passes as a completely f2p player in under 3 seasons (in 2 seasons if you invite one friend through a referral link), and each season gets you almost twice as much of that currency as you need to buy the next one. You can also buy items from bundles separately (e.g you only want the hat from a skin, you can buy just the hat for like 20% of the whole bundle's price).

[@strvmpet]

will add that a big reason that the finals lost hype was because of the ai voices. alot of people dropped the game because of it

[@PeterPq]

@@strvmpet also a very valid point. At least the original VAs are paid for their voice samples the synthetised voice is trained on, that is what kept me from leaving the game but i dont appreciate the ai voice in itself either yeah

[@samhyatt4863]

⁠@@strvmpethighly, highly doubt anyone dropped the game due to ai voices. the truth is that most people don’t care for that issue one bit. ESPECIALLY not the type of people who play a competitive shooter like the finals. Also @PeterPq , slight clarification on your maps point, the game launched with 4 maps, you missed skyway stadium. the next map will be the game’s 7th map

[@cloudboy08]

@@strvmpet if someone stops playing the game for AI voices they didn't like the game in the first place

[@cloudboy08]

youtubers nowadays don't like games, they like calling games dead to milk views

[@andresrodriguez8289]

When he said the finals and deadlock he is coping… the finals is a good game as he said but the content you can help giving ideas if you care about the game, the new weapons came from the community, meanwhile deadlock is unique in his type and it is building a disgusting (I hate dota/lol) fans because they love that type of game with shooters so..: they are not gonna be dead

[@andresrodriguez8289]

Also dead games means it stop receiving updates at the point it may be shut it down and/or you can’t see the game unique that make you wish it still living… Like rainbow six or for honor… you don’t want them fail cause they are unique

[@mobumikey1447]

So rivals announced that all characters will be free on launch and whenever released post-launch too so I mean I’m optimistic just hope for more game modes and maps but I’m sure they will have some good maps and modes

[@animefanboy9258]

Ya I have full hope in rivals

[@Its_Toko]

That's maaaaassive, ty for letting me know

[@PurpleDrawer]

How are free to play games supposed to stay up if they can’t make any kind of money…? Battle passes and cosmetics shops are usually the way to go. Sometimes they suck. Sometimes they don’t. It’s a mixed bag

[@bobnasty8671]

Maybe stop making free to play games?

[@darkwrath9927]

I can't say for the rest of the games. But 2XKO is gonna be a hit. It might be "dead' by other games standards, but all fighting games have a sharp decline pretty quick. Particularly ones made with characters from non FGC series. Yeah, we're gonna probably see hundreds of thousands of people try 2XKO for a couple weeks, but then people will realize its still a fighting game, and then probably stay around 20-30k daily players for the future, so "dead" by you're definition, but probably still top 3 of FGs up with Street Fighter 6.

[@ponjun3970]

Bro didn't even have to mention Concord. Dead after a second.

[@RatComedenti]

Directly contradicts his point as it's pay 2 play lmao

[@ponjun3970]

@@RatComedenti Oh yeah, I forgot

[@Its_Toko]

@@RatComedenti Goes both ways imo, cuz I think we'd both agree even if it was FTP it'd die pretty much just as fast lol

[@RatComedenti]

@@Its_Toko not as fast though, most f2p games have a way to hang in like cockroaches despite failing

[@TR_IV]

I dont think the Finals is dead because they can still fix it in season 4 and the Game itself has an estimated 280,000 unique players per day across all platforms

[@pvprangergod4024]

i cant take the art style seriously

[@LowBatteryYT]

1:07 5 Modes 6 Maps is the actual number. Don't know why we are pulling arbitary numbers with zero research. the game launched with 4 maps at least you got that correct but it also launched with 4 modes. "They make sure the cosmetics are updated once every 5 minutes" it's free to play.... how do you think they make their money? Not to mention the cosmetics are of vastly superior quality than any other game on the market and I and 99% of the finals player base will stand by that.

[@Its_Toko]

5 instead of 6 maps - My mistake. I don't think it's that big of a deal. I was off by one and if you google it, it literally says 5 (at least when I looked). You can't possibly look at someone being off by one singular digit and criticize the entire video for being poorly researched, that's blatantly unfair & ignorant and you know that. "Cosmetics being updated updated every 5 minutes" - I don't know how someone could take that literally. You actually think that I believe the shop is updated every 5 literal minutes? I don't know how I could have made it more obvious it was hyperbole. Superior quality cosmetics - Yeah they're pretty good, not the best but that's purely opinionated, which you're more than welcome to have. I don't mean to sound rude, I always try to accept valid criticism, but this just seems like nitpicking. Nontheless, I still do appreciate it.

[@joaquinschwarz6327]

​@@Its_Toko I think you are not being critic and use a lot of passive agressive to defend yourself... They indeed need to make money with the cosmetics and weekly they bring a lot of changes in the gameplay, balance and more... Thats why anyone could tell this video is effortless and its just another yt video about "dead games" instead of doing something useful Pd: the cosmetics of the finals are the best I have seen of any free to play game 🤷 (it okey u have your opinion)

[@ketchup6040]

If rivals dies I’m just gonna quit gaming I can’t lie unless it’s single player 😭

[@NotAGreatPlayer]

Hum really? I already quitting at this point, basically every game that I start to like basically just die. My last one if dies for good, then will just get into single players, already fed up at this point.

[@ketchup6040]

@@NotAGreatPlayer so real

[@buffshrek6809]

I’m saying bro😭

[@h2woah127]

The finals really is a fun game

[@lilmason1664]

How dare free games have monetization!!! 🤓 Real talk, some of these games arent even dead and who tf said under 10k means its dead??

[@Art__E]

Concord: *Dead after one day*

[@pvprangergod4024]

if it had valve name, it would be hyped up by all the glazers

[@Art__E]

@@pvprangergod4024 valve earned the glazers tho, can’t think of a single time they released garbage and people defended it.

[@Sxnxooos]

The finals will make a comeback season 4 is incredibly

[@Thy_cockroach_crusader]

It made a small comeback. The new map sucks and I have only seen it 3 times. The new guns are annoying or just OP

[@uniball1700]

@@Thy_cockroach_crusader shit take

[@dumbfox9550]

the finals isn't dead, it still has a very active community

[@BigdaddyDalaodie]

This game has lots of potential, all they need to do is keep updating it.

[@joshuadaugherty2267]

Man, that marvel rivals take agged like milk

[@BuffGenji]

Which is a good thing

[@Its_Toko]

IM GLAD, I LOVE THAT GAME LOOOOL

[@khanman9146]

His take didn’t even age, their was just a lack of research done on the topic of this video.

[@myronchan8568]

@@Its_Tokono you’re not lol, game never died, just proved you milk “dead games” takes for views

[@imsentinelprime9279]

What take, dude was just misinformed

[@shalom1523]

i love how concord is not even being discussed at this point 💀

[@0riginalShyguy]

Just heard it’s completely shutting down on 9/6/24

[@ReadyplayeroneYT]

I've never heard anyone complain about the cosmetics in the finals, and even if you want to say its dead its not for that reason. (plus I think they try to add new weapons before maps and modes, they are trying to fix the current modes right now so they aren't going to make new ones soon)

[@yoloboogie3674]

look at this guy's face.... anything thats not getting fortnite numbers is considered dead to him. That or he just wants to grab your attention and engagement bait

[@FlavoredLewb]

I would have to disagree with the 100k-10k idea because like look at achievement percentages on some games, people download games then barely get past the opening realising they're not for them, those stats don't mean a games dead it just means it found it's player base.

[@qualitycenter9700]

When deadlock adds an internal economy it will make the game never die lol

[@cesarsantosortiz13]

Having fully watched the video, I think I'm gonna stop buying micro currencies. He actually makes a pretty good point about how it makes you want to buy more and more.

[@wood5241]

Its a business brother why wouldnt they not? If people stop buyin then the game can maintain itself. Thats how sad things like this works. Side note. I love how people are talking about skins in other games but in Valorant bundles they do be eating it raw, guess streamer glazing does work after all. Good move by RIOT.

[@cesarsantosortiz13]

I get what you're saying. It's just sad that they need microtransactions to survive.

[@Major-bo2qj]

0:47 The Finals will not die maybe it could be one of the biggest shooters sometime

[@6u1ll3]

What will die before? A: Deadlock B: This channel

[@RatComedenti]

I mean... Deadlock is at least 2 years away from release

[@dachieclippz9826]

Probably deadlock tbh

[@sonubharamkar4238]

​@@dachieclippz9826nice joke

[@pvprangergod4024]

deadlock is already dead, just has valve glazers thats it

[@RatComedenti]

@@pvprangergod4024 it has 30k players in off hours but sure pvprangergod4024

[@DuckSwagington]

Valve are the kings of making games last forever and those fuckers run their live service games on stale cereal and vibes. The game could be over run with cheaters and bots spamming slurs in chat with no content update in sight and it would crack 50k concurant players consistently. For christ sake the top game on steam right now is a rushed buggy broken mess of a game released by Valve a year too early with basically no anti-cheat. How the Hell do these guys get away with it?

[@RatComedenti]

Ok good argument... Artifact, dota underlords. I'm a deadlock crack addict who already played for 100 hours but valve did fuck up twice before. First with artifact being a pay to play PvP card game (worse decision ever made) and dota underlords that was just outperformed by Dota autochess (the mod it was based on)

[@maxrosefoxanime7225]

The finals is a good Gan and it still going well I don't mind all the outfits

[@cloudboy08]

well it doesn't matter he's not going to get the same views and money by not saying the game fell off.

[@tot0byafrica748]

Bro like half the shit you say is wrong in this video, the finals has 7 maps with new weapons, gadgets and specialities every season, and marvels rivals litteraly announces days ago that all hero's would be free. At least try to do your research lmfao

[@gusronalds7484]

With all do respect boss man Toko I think this video was pretty poorly explained and was straight up wrong in many areas. I think it's a bit disingenuous to say that "All these games are going to die" and then have most of the games you talk about be ones that aren't even out yet. Like brother only 2 games on here are actually released and 2 others (2XKO & Deadlock) you say are probably not going to die (???). It's weird cause at the beginning you say "We see this time and time again" but then you don't show any examples of games that have, in the literal sense, died. You were even just flat out wrong about Marvel Rivals locking characters behind a paywall, meaning another point for your argument is just straight up dookie. It feels like two different videos were stitched together. One about how bad monetization is in LS games, and the other about fast modern games die out. The only point you made that applied to both of these was really multiversus, everything else was either one category or neither (cause they aint even out yet). IK you value criticism (W) which is why I felt the need to make this long ahh cringe ahh comment.

[@zeandretheone]

Nah you must be stupid as hell. I understood the point he was making. He's saying if games continue with the monetization practices that they do it's not hard to see the game will die in less than a year. It's not that hard to get we don't need examples this year has been full of them. This video was solid you just have too smooth a brain to not see the patterns.

[@h2woah127]

This was not cringe at all

[@NotGyroo]

Extremely wrong on both 2XKO & Deadlock, 2X is heavily awaited due to the FGC being in a bit of a mess (some people hate T8/SF6) and people like Max have sung it's praises, it'll be #3 behind those two and it's not even a debate. Then, Deadlock has 100k+ with a janky invite system, it fills shooter & a moba which will be fine

[@nonr.2347]

Bro has personal beef with The Finals

[@przemysawbrzeczyszczykiewi1211]

I was worried you were going to put deadlock as a dead aftwr one month there. With how polished it already is in early access, and how many people are playing and talking about it just from a share link early access. I foresee a HUGE shift in people leaving overwatch, and TF2, and going to Deadlock. Because its a game that's finally done something different, it gave a hero shooter lanes and dota denies, item shop, no passive income, you get only what you deserve. I might be glazing, but I think Deadlock has a very very bright future. If they do cosmetics like with dota that you can buy and sell on marketplace as well. It's going to be top tier money making like Dota as well

[@GravityDrop]

Fantastic video but was not expecting the Shadows of Evil jumpscare at 6:10

[@doorphobia79]

cant help but think if these games just priced themselves accordingly they would actually make MORE money than by just killing it off rip by having the monetization of satan

[@deadhelix]

the most a skin in a game should be is like 10 bucks imo and even then ik some will say that’s too high. but in comparison to the 20, 50, or hell 500 dollar cosmetics I feel like we should’ve drawn a line a far longer time ago

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

Yep, Multiversus comes to mind, seeing how even the Nickelodeon game made enough money to justify a sequel

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

@@deadhelix Skins should not be monetized, period. It's nonsensical, selling textures and jpegs at exorbitant prices, manipulating the weak minded because these "cosmetics" represent "status" in a imaginary world. I really think the governments worldwide should step in and regulate this industry, even sugar is regulated, but you can sell "cosmetics" and slot machines to children?

[@deadhelix]

I get the want for paid game with proper progression, but having a paywall to a game makes it way harder to get into and cycle in new players. Spectre would be more likely to die as a paid game when valorant would be a free alternative thats had years to grow and the riot name behind it, vs it being free and not hurt to try leading to more exposure and actually having people seeing if they like it than writing it off. Everyone said that battlebit was way better than the newest battlefield yet it has lower player count than bf 2042

[@NasNas3214]

In the newest Bucky trailer they said that every character would be available at launch, so I have faith in rivals.

[@Its_Toko]

Faaaaat W

[@matthewj5775]

Concord set the record for quickest death HOURS AGO. Life comes at you fast, unless you’re Concord

[@aSkinnyBear]

Just going to put this here cause people keep saying the finals is dead or dying....no "less than 15k on steamcharts tho" This game is majority a console playerbase, yes its weird, turning off crossplay makes ques go to 5 min turning it on gives matches almost instantly. Devs have also "said" that the game has never gone below 500k at the mid point of season 2, 4 months later whether or not that's still the case rn is up for debate. As for the content being mostly skins, well its f2p so obvs, but the finals is that 1 game mode in the game. Its why a majority of the playerbase threw a fit the moment they changed ranked to a bad rainbow six mode saying "It wasnt the finals." I'm all for new gamemodes but those don't determine if a game lives or dies, league has been on the same map for over a decade with tiny changes. (Ik Toko wants these games to succeed this was just an fyi cause its a common misconception that this game is unpopular or dead...Its not.)

[@helixtower5817]

My main worries about Marvel Rivals are the maps, game modes and performance optimizations. They are going to have such an easy time with character additions compared to other games who have to create brand new ones.

[@paclenny]

Man, Deadlock is so good that Shroud forgot his own game.

[@clothandleather2838]

Usually when a game reaches 100k players at the start, most games taper off to roughly 10k players. It varies, but pretty normal

[@leadpoisoned45]

I actually doubt Spectre will die, its the first tac shooter that is actually casual friendly

[@uvgalaxyxd7068]

its not valorant so it will die

[@TheOnesGaming611]

@@uvgalaxyxd7068 Siege and cs 2 are not valorant.

[@pvprangergod4024]

spectre has terrible art style, but so does valorant.

[@Jason_1000_5]

The finals isn’t dead it’s still popular a lot of people play the game and it definitely didn’t die after one month

[@cloudboy08]

dw he just wants to farm views knowingly that these kinda videos brings these games down even more

[@Jason_1000_5]

@@cloudboy08 agreed you play the finals

[@gmdSalarium]

If you want a game with natural progression and no pay wall to review, there is a game called The Forever Winter that's was just recently in beta.

[@DarkLikePC]

Bro called The Finals dead just cause game owned regular audience and not in hype train anymore. Same thing happened to Apex and Helldivers 2, that got crazy online on release, and then just lost all random players looking for the fun game for a month, but they aren't in your list

[@goldengryphon3103]

I don't think project L will be dead in a month. As long as all the characters are free

[@pebisgaming]

Doesn't the f2p model work when the focus isn't just money? I always thought a big reason Overwatch 1 died is just because they stopped making money from it. Its just kind of like, why update game when everyone owns it already? Seems insanely fair and reasonable to me to have to spend money to get a pointless optional cosmetic, the people who actually want it buy it and fund the experience for everyone.

[@shainekennedy2742]

You left out the games that are thriving that use the "Fortnite formula" that you constantly never take the time to define, nor address the differences between. This is poorly thought out and less so put together. This is a disingenuous way to provide an argument and comes off as blatant rage bait. All your claims are undefined, and have hearsay as their basis. "This game with a battle pass died, so where's the other ones??" Deceive inc. Brawlhalla. Helldivers. Halo MCC. Even The Finals leans into a more conventional unlock system akin to the old COD and BF games when it comes to the parts of the game that actually effect gameplay. Do better.

[@Its_Toko]

I made this video in a like 2 days, I can't cover every game in existence 😭 Fr tho, there are games that DO find some success with the FTP model, but they feel like the exception, not the rule. Hence why I made this video. I have simply watched too many games that I absolutely love fade into obscurity to the point where I felt obligated to talk about it and one of the main reasons for their shortcomings I believe to be directly related to their unnecessary use of Fortnite's previously successful model.

[@shainekennedy2742]

@Its_Toko I didn't ask you to cover "Everything in existence." I asked you to be thorough and consistent. Though I do respect the time taken to reply, a claim as large as "It will be dead in a month" requires more weight behind your evidence than displayed here. I have no beef with you, I'm legitimately asking you to do better in the future.

[@xan_69420]

@@Its_Toko get your ass on stream youre late

[@Its_Toko]

@@shainekennedy2742 That makes sense and I appreciate your feedback. Though this raises another issue that I am now concerned about. Was the tone of the video leading you to believe I was actually 100% dead serious about these games dying after one month? (I put out a poll on my KZbin community tab about this) The entire point of the video is to use a really exaggerated reoccurring joke of "All these games are going to die after one month" in order to shed light on an the observation I've made that lot of ftp games tend to fall off relatively quickly. I would then 180 this satire and reveal that I actually DO want these games to all succeed because I enjoy them all very much! I was NOT trying to make any sort of bold claim but I can definitely see how it can be interpreted that way. Perhaps I am just not very good at showing pure satire quite yet.

[@shainekennedy2742]

@@Its_Toko Thank you for being open. I admit up front I did watch the video the whole way though, hence why I claimed it felt as if it wasn't thorough. I feel like there is something really powerful under the hood of this video and your points I do hear, and I also stand beside you in seeing good games die (Rest in peace Titanfall 2.) The video however does feel a little murky in the message it's trying to send under the heavy-handed sarcasm and nihilism. Your use of the chapters tool is brilliant, it helped my personal watch of the video. As stated before however, I find most of my personal stance on the video lies in the fact that the generalization does little in way of helping these games stay alive. I agree voting with your dollar is a good thing, but I feel pointing to good indies, and putting forward suggestions to change in-game systems (wishful thinking or not) would be both a productive, and enjoyable experience for those interested in both you and the topics covered. Your open ears did however find a fan in me today. Consider me on the Toko Train!

[@aimidas2434]

By the way there are games that are free that are good they just die after a while because they either don't add new content or the devs just abandoned them and the other thing is there are some free games that can have progression and also have options to pay money most development teams nowadays don't really care they just want the money which is a real disappointment

[@soundwaveravagesuperior]

Meanwhile tf2: 🧍‍♂️ Other games: 💥🔫 Tf2: 🧟‍♂️ Other games: 💥🔫💥🔫💥🔫 Tf2: 🧟‍♂️ Other games: ☠️ 😵 Tf2: 🧟‍♂️

[@jeb4148]

Not sure why everyone clowns on the finals for “lack of content”. Some of the biggest games, battle royals especially, ship with 1 map for an entire season and one game mode for the entirety of the game’s existence. It’s a great game - go support it

[@RatComedenti]

Deadlocks probably going to have monatization similar to dota 2 All characters are free by default, you can get some free cosmetics via grinding, sometimes you get some free items for characters (dota has item sets so you can basicly mix and match skins) As a f2p dota 2 player id say its going to be monotized fine, deadlock was confirmed to be f2p on launch im pretty sure and there seems to be a progression system for each character wich im assuming its like dota

[@tmo-profits9214]

I love how know one can actually explain the problem with the finals without mentioning any valid points

[@d33pblu3]

Deadlock will have some kind of progression since there’s a greyed out tab called progression in the hero select screen.

[@pvprangergod4024]

locking heroes behind progression is ebola

[@dona2985]

Me when a friend game needs money to operate: 😮

[@oofo5132]

I’m so angry these free games have stores and battle passes like what do you expect companies to just make free games for nothing in return to bleed money like what 😂

[@aleanddragonITA]

I am not against FtP Games having In-Games Purchases but in my opinion they could try to do something else than Battle Pass & Cosmetic Shops Like for example Marvel Rivals could add a Single/Co-Op PvE Mode that's PtP

[@pvprangergod4024]

zoomer detected, did u know free2play games used to exist without battle passes

[@LezzSamurai]

Embark makes The Finals, it's a brand new studio consisting of OG DICE from Battlefield

[@enzoborges6470]

"It keeps at the top, dosent bring it there", bro im in a forest, stop spitting fire🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@mushsect7511]

ngl artstyle alone is gonna carry big for deadlock lmao

[@Its_Toko]

Dude yes, I'm not even a big MOBA fan but I think it's gonna look really cool when it's done

[@mushsect7511]

@@Its_Toko its crazy too cus it looked so generic when it was neon prime - but it only took an artstyle/era theme change to really make it stand out

[@domicci4460]

Sadly, the reload kills that game for me if they made the reload like a second i would have 200x more fun reload just puts the game on hault for to long. I play alot of mobas and having your basic attack on cool down feels bad

[@jandamz1119]

​@@domicci4460 Characters have different reload times like how Pocket has an absurdly long one but Yamato has a pretty average one. It's also a way to balance certain heroes and the pacing of laning. Either way, treat your ammo as a valuable resource. Slide to give yourself brief infinite ammo, or use items that help with reloading like Active Reload or Quicksilver Reload. The time you spend reloading is a resource within itself, so don't CoD reload too much and make your shots count.

[@mushsect7511]

@@domicci4460 that's where a bit of a skill thing comes in tbh - slidin gives you infinite ammo and you can repeat slide back down the stairs when shooting the 1st guardian - or learning to last hit creep only and their orbs - or find a character with an ammo/fire rate type you prefer

[@mistermorgan]

How is the finals ‘dead’ because of the cosmetics? To be fair they don’t update as much as I’d like but they have a super small team and at least the updates they make are cool. I just don’t see cosmetics being something that has been detrimental to this game

[@Doy54]

Another great example of this is battlebit, went crazy for like a few months but the updates fell off there just enough to keep my enough

[@domicci4460]

Rivals has already released 4 characters in beta which gives me so much hope

[@grayglimpse]

I think free to play games need start doing a thing where you can buy in for like 30 bucks and start unlocking cosmetics. Like while its still free to play you can essentially "buy the game" and either unlock a progression system or earn skins you want rather than filler battle pass garbage.

[@AKDaz]

bro is playing drift from guilty gear in the back ground what a giga chad

[@ParsnipGod]

As a finals fan, embark has more artists on board then they have experienced game devs. They pump out skins because they have someone dedicated to making them. Personally I still play the finals and though the playerbase is limited it still only takes 2-3 mins to find a game, and the small community is very excited for season 4. Also the finals is one of the few where if you buy the battle pass once you’ll have enough credits from it to buy the battle passes every time going on in the future forever

[@pvprangergod4024]

finals art looks sloppy

[@spikey_nogin]

The only thing bad in the finals is that they focus more on cosmetics and balance changes instead of releasing new weapons and gadgets , s4 will only add 3 new weapons as far as we know and no gadgets , also they now give the F2P players a lot less cosmetics in the new free circuits , unless they keep or add new contact circuits. Im mostly playing this game to have fun with my friends but it will get boring if they dont add any new weapons and gadgets.

[@MUSHIKIDA_GA]

The cyberpunk impression was respectable

[@Ender_gamer28742]

Big surprise here Harry Potter Quidditch Champions has no micro transactions. you can only get stuff from progressing the game cant believe I am saying this but W warner brothers

[@SwigerQ86]

The Finals is the best pvp shooter ive played in years, i love all the detailed cosmetics, every time you level up, you get something, i like having things to show off

[@Elion-c8t]

as much as I hate what MultiVersus is doing rn, it's definitely not dead and it does live service well. Just needs some balance work :/

[@paulnoell39]

I think 2XKO is set up pretty well to succeed. The company and idea will carry it far, not taking into account it appeals to FGC sweats

[@KH0RNE]

Honestly, if they make 2XKO characters free, and the cosmetics payed, I wouldn't mind. For me the gameplay is what matters. Or, they could give us free cosmetics, and then have some base characters and DLC characters. Kinda like what strive does, just without the paid-for-extra-colors. DLC characters being pay-to-win? Now, this is a thing in FPS, but not in fighting games. Fighting games do not *have* pay to win. Even with games like strive. There is always a skill potentiap for your character. And the more that you play them, the more people you beat. It's a direct corresponding feedback, that will beat pay to win if it ever comes to the fighting game genre. Which is why i'm so faithful that fighting games will make a comeback if 2xko ends up being the fighting game for people who didnt play them before.

[@TheBlackGarnet]

All games eventually die, that's just how it works. I don't understand why it's such a crazy concept to most people.

[@pvprangergod4024]

good games dont die

[@TheBlackGarnet]

@@pvprangergod4024 yes they do, for example Dark Souls is one of the greatest games ever made, however It is by the steam charts "dead."

[@pvprangergod4024]

@@TheBlackGarnet i have never played any dark souls, but im pretty sure they still making those games. so how can it be called dead

[@TheBlackGarnet]

@@pvprangergod4024 I meant the original dark souls, it's dead on steam yet it is still hailed as a masterpiece. The're are countless other games and franchises that are "dead" in terms of player count however that doesn't mean they aren't incredible.

[@pvprangergod4024]

@@TheBlackGarnet if its a good game with 0 players, i wouldn't call it dead. unless its multiplayer only, then its dead because 1 player can't play it even if he wanted to.

[@OliMcG]

Yeah.. there’s a reason this vid is at 300 views

[@PracticallyBlind]

The finals ain’t gonna die out looking at it now

[@RatTutorial-l5v]

finally a youtuber that can feed my attention span.

[@Juan-GC]

Tbf at least this video was pretty negative, but it was pretty funny and you made good points about the games that already died(especially the finals). Yet deadlock and marvel rivals have a lot of potential. Also valve games never die lol. I sub

[@cloudboy08]

this is literally what brings the finals down, ppl calling it dead when it is nowhere that lmao

[@kingcroakYT]

Just a reminder that the steam charts on The Finals doesn't account for the console players! The game is still highly active.

[@jckfrost36]

Yeah im on ps5 and got zero issue finding a game in 2 minutes or less

[@strawberrana]

I really really hope Spectre Divide isn't the same monetization format that we've come to expect, and I'd say the same about Deadlock if I cared about MOBAs

[@1988transformer]

First time seeing your content. You're funny as fuck and seem like you're just vibing. 😂 Good stuff👍 the mone lisa part killed me😂

[@wigglysniffs9435]

That finals take crazy saying they don’t focus on other stuff then cosmetics they don’t announce the other stuff on their KZbin they update the gameplay every single week they added leader boards to different playlist and im at like 280,000 in quick cash and I play the game almost everyday

[@GoBlueHTB]

I think if Concord had taken this F2P route rather than a paid game, it would have survived longer than 2 days.

[@Man-q7o]

And if the characters didn't look like trash

[@jerocasell6068]

i need progresion, i need a number that goes up when i finish a match independently if i win or loose the match, just put something that i can grind, i play 3 matches of these games and think they are super fun and then not playing ever again because theres nothing to play for

[@benisign]

"it's hard to fuck up a fighting game" *glances at launch SF5*

[@The.Afronaut]

Nothing about The Finals is dead Idk where y'all KZbin heads are getting this but it's factually incorrect The cosmetics are not ruining the game and are often suggestions put out by the community that the devs then put in the game They've put out a new map every single season meaning it gets more new maps than almost every other shooter on the market. And they're consistently and frequently putting out patch and game changes

[@22-PILOTS-F-18]

The finals is not dead, it has literally 100k players a day

[@r3mii-CL]

I would never buy cosmetics from Riot. Their prices are wild.

[@strvmpet]

Will add for the finals a big thing that upset players was the ai voice acting. alot of people got really upset that they didnt hire voice actors (without the intention of getting VAs in future) as to save some cash. Alot of big to semi big voice actors called for boycotts on the game (i think the big ones were gianni matragano (the guy who voiced gabriel in ultrakill among others) and then matt mercer reposted that) + some voicelines sounded really janky (searching up the finals narrator voice lines shows this pretty well). This lead to alot of people dropping the game after an interview where they said the ai voices werent a temporary thing

[@leech_the_loser7348]

I currently play the finals and although Ai voices aren’t a deal breaker for me they’re honestly kind of jarring. They have no life behind them and are just flat out inconsistent

[@strvmpet]

@@leech_the_loser7348 real

[@luizmarques5907]

10:13 "swearing is bad, that's why I don't do it" less than 10 seconds later: "fucking millionare" 💀

[@spence6195]

Videogame corporations prioritize selling skins over good gameplay is why these games die

[@bambampewpew32]

6:10 THE SHADOWS OF EVIL ROUND CHANGE NOISE LOL the city does kinda look like Shadows wtf

[@ronykax]

this guy's take on the finals aged well

[@AlphaRK_1]

Games are dying because would rather play games that never changes (CoD) than play something new, different, and fresh

[@catus999]

I didnt even know there was a splitgate 2 bruh

[@drakkull007]

Deadlock and 2XKO will thrive, for sure. Not talking as a fanboy, but as a developer and gamer for a long ass time. Marvel Rivals can do good, but NetEase is the publisher and "dev" of this one, sooo...

[@pvprangergod4024]

marvel rivals looks like a mobile game. deadlock art style is also terrible.