All Phantom Liberty Endings Ranked Worst to Best in Cyberpunk 2077

[@Zymemaru]

In true cyberpunk fashion it figures the ending where everyone lives is still considered the worst

[@Strutsss]

TRUTH. 'A happy ending? For folks like us? *Wrong city, wrong people.* ' T_T

[@radekwroblewski6641]

Everyone if you don't count the legions od NUSA soldiers we Slaughter...

[@Ecliptor.]

Only difference is Alex dies, tho. In Pentacle + Tower everyone but Alex (and Johnny, I guess) lives. Not only that, everyone seems to have a better life. But V has trouble coping with the new life and everyone having moved on during his coma, which is completely understandable.

[@JB-xl2jc]

So Mi is deeeefinitely better off not living than the horrors that await her returning to the FIA. It's established that her mind is fragmenting more each time, and after her escape attempt they'll be using her like a slave. She says over time the remnants of her shredded psyche will get stuck behind the blackwall, where they'll be tortured for all eternity. Pretty bleak... Not to mention, Reed is better off at the spaceport taking the hit for his ideals... than "living" as a desk jockey alcoholic agonizing for the rest of his life.

[@xisckillerx7578]

@@JB-xl2jc you're not responsible for other people. as mike pondsmith said cyberpunk is not about saving humanity, it's about saving yourself. king of swords gives v his life back

[@kadorigami]

The Blackwall sequence when carrying So Mi and decimating the NUSA in attempts to reach the monorail sent shivers down my spine and gave me goosebumps. Such an epic moment in Phantom Liberty I’ll never forget.

[@serchemach]

Reminded me of Assassin's Creed 3 ending

[@Username-wj8pz]

shame its so short. it definitely feels like the Reed path is the most polished of the entire dlc

[@Retrolian1000]

It really was a cool and chilling moment. I hope they have more of that in the next game.

[@Pasi1984]

In my Opinion in the Control tower facing the Troops and the Helicopter and use the Blackwall Hack😍

[@timklafke4712]

So facts. I literally just finished my playthrough 10 minutes ago for the first time and that was my ending. My honest reaction was “holy shit this is so sick, but I also definitely picked the ‘bad’ ending” lol. I haven’t watched this video yet because I immediately saw this comment, but I’m curious how this sending songbird to the moon ending compares to the others. The biggest “oh shit I feel kinda bad” moment during this ending for me was when you encounter reed at the very and have to take him out to get song to the shuttle. That felt real bad to me, because as far as I saw it in a first time playthrough, reed wasn’t a bad dude. I opposed him because I didn’t wanna turn song over to the feds because I know what kinda fucked up shit they pull in the cyberpunk universe. Even though she committed treason, v ain’t no saint either. And I felt like v and songbird kind of related to each other because they were in very similar deathbound situations, where they would do anything to survive. The betrayal near the end hurt, but I was already in too deep to back out lol

[@ShaunCushley97]

Going up against that bloody robot in Somewhat Damaged almost gave me a heart attack. Multiple times. I'm sure it's shortened my life. I'm also fairly convinced the developers made that level as a punishment for players who betrayed Songbird, because that's what it felt like.

[@Nightingale_101]

I was sneaking around during that part, and my roommate knocked on my window and scared the hell out of me. i nearly pissed myself.

[@anosvoldigoat3351]

Yep . The cut content showed so mi would have given the cure in the devil ending

[@NormalJinx]

Wouldn't ever play Alien: Isolation then :D

[@teneb3385]

😂 I didn't play this route but just watching gameplay made me think that this is made to get you to question your life decisions (and also quite literary for songbird as well)

[@NormalJinx]

Putting myself in the shoes of V after all the things that happened to them at the point in the story.... I almost immediately went to betraying Songbird. Losing Jackie, screwed over by Dex, slowly being taken over by Johnny Silverhand, and she shows up with one final Hail Mary? Too good to be true.

[@blm50881]

King of wands is the best ending for me. It has 2 very important lessons for V. 1. The likelihood of being betrayed is much higher than not. 2. Beware of someone with unshakeable loyalty to the Corp/country (Takemura & Hanako). Reed deserves to die for his loyalty to something that deserves none. It's a good warning against the devil ending. After experiencing that, no one would trust Arasaka at the end. My V put her on that space ship to prove a point. That V is is not a low life betrayer and user that only cares about themselves like most ppl in cyberpunk. When she takes on a job she finishes it.. sees it through to the end.

[@fire4ev]

thats an interesting pov but i dont think its right. V went through all that before just for the promise of being cured, very early on realised everyone is being used and played and cure is what kept v going. skipping to the choice siding with songbird is obvious for v because hearing how reed spoke about redhead twins after killing them, worthless criminals who deserved to die(spoke worse about somi after learning her plan). in the train when v hears about betrayal it makes no sense to call reed just to let myers have her anyway. then killing reed in the end also make no sense for v because after all that v is tired of being played and just wants the cure or to be over with manipulations. v who wants to live would never kill reed because there would be no chance of cure and standing up for songbird after being used from start isnt on top of v's list of priorities, also would potentially create problems from nusa in future. too bad cure ending is bad but choices leading up to it are 100% what make sense for v

[@dredgen0268]

Phantom Liberty is so good.

[@susdino]

Yeah I still can't decide whether the base game or phantom liberty more

[@killmonger5097]

@@susdinoit’s all the same game

[@FTBASTAR]

Yes, dumped 200 hours into the game

[@RicochetForce]

The fact that it stays with you like this is a testament to its quality.

[@cantu7214]

Phantom Liberty cemented this game as my favorite of all time

[@dynamicphotography_]

I love that we can't agree on what the best outcome is, or the worst outcome, and everything in between. It's so gray. It's so interesting. It would be cool if this concept came up more often in media.

[@droe2570]

Eh, all the outcomes are bad, and all the characters are evil, so it doesn't really matter. In the end, the AI rogues are going to show up so the outcomes are all irrelevant.

[@CorelUser]

this specific kind of multiple ending thing that can only happen in videogames, is a quality of this media that should be used more

[@dremndishot2695]

@@droe2570 If that's all that you got from the story and nothing deeper then I feel sorry for you

[@DontUtrustMe]

@@dremndishot2695 Nah,he is actually right. Technically Reed are "lawful stoopid",but the only difference of this characters from "evil" ones is how they reason things for themselves,results are the same. While Myers and Songbird are basically the same character,just in diff positions. tl dr: If they do what they think is wrong,they will play a victim card and will continue doing it.

[@Chromedbustop]

It's been a very popular form of storytelling for decades. Look up 'noir' and you'll find hundreds of books, films, plays that use it.

[@Dripularstein]

I really wish we would get 1 or 2 more expansions, but still, Phantom liberty was a huge wave of fresh air for the game compared to its rocky beginning. Hopefully, they'll make Orion exactly like they done sidequests in phantom liberty aswell as the deep hidden connection to the characters and the main story.

[@mackielunkey2205]

Same director is gonna do Orion!

[@TheCaliforniaHP]

same director of the DLC?@@mackielunkey2205

[@TheCaliforniaHP]

Agreed best part about Phantom Liberty. It felt like Witcher 3 and that's a very good thing.

[@h0nza_]

@@TheCaliforniaHP in what way did it felt like W3 to you?

[@eternalmiasma5586]

They probably had more in mind but they had to spend all the dev time on updates

[@MisterF0oT]

For me the "best" ending is what V would have done in the moment, meaning without any knowledge from other pathes and the future. And then I guess the "best" ending depends on what kind of person you think V is. For me V was always someone who knows they will die and fights with everything they have to find a way to keep living. Songbird is the one person that actually provides V with a concrete plan to save their life, something the NUSA never does. This is why I decided to side with Songbird and go to the spaceport. And then when I was sitting in that final train with Songbird admitting that she betrayed me I noticed that she is the same as V: someone who is dying and fights with everything they have to survive. In that moment she was the only person to ever truly connect with V and the other way around. I believe this connection is the reason she entrusted herself to V in the first place. And I (V) couldn't bring myself to hate her for the betrayal, as I might have done the same thing if it was MY only way out. Yes she might still die, but at least she dies on her own terms, knowing she did everything she could have, and that there is a person out there that actually cared about her.

[@eurongreyjoy2]

Maybe we'll find out in Orion what happens to So Mi on the moon.

[@ComradeBread]

"She is the same as V" That's how I see it, except she doesn't have the freedom to pursue other options. Reed, the one person she might be able to look to for help, sells her out if he has to. And as she is basically a living cyber WMD, Myers isn't about to let her run off and make friends and allies to try to live like V can.

[@saadasaad8538]

Exactly how i feel also V has no moral high ground to speak from and i love that about this game even when you call out Johnny for the nuke he responds so it's scale you're worried about? You kill just the same as me

[@Gamfluent]

THIS! Idk why people are such pussies when it comes to being betrayed by her , not only is it cyberpunk but it’s also just so human to wanna live and make sacrifices

[@t0nkatsu]

This, along with there being no guarantee of a cure elsewhere, no guarantee of V even walking away alive from any of it. And on top of that, if things go well for So Mi, there’s a chance she continues looking into a cure for V.

[@amirfazelsadeghi3031]

I feel like what this game does so good is that any ending you get first is gonna be the best one for you. Amazing writing and immersion at work here

[@dynamicphotography_]

That's interesting. I think that's a pretty good point actually. It's like your personality is involved with the decisions that get you to your first ending.

[@amirfazelsadeghi3031]

@@dynamicphotography_ exactly. The first one feels more natural depending on you and your Vs personality

[@johnwaxman555]

Not really, no. I did nomad ending first but (Don't) Fear The Ripper is the only one for me.

[@Hawkeye83627]

Nahhhh, not really. I got one of the worst ones when I completed vanilla. My second character's ending was the Aldecaldos, and that's my personal "canon" ending for my V's. I mainly play a female V and that's the only one that lets me stay with Judy, so, it's pretty much the only one I can fully enjoy.

[@PatrickVu3110]

Agree. I got ending with V broken body, fresh start over, no one beside. Damn really opposite of what Im in real life. Not gonna lie, I play the game with "saving everyone alive" mind. Dunno why the ending I got is just so pitiful.

[@dizzpenzerr5367]

I like how if you go for King of Swords, Johnny tells us how much bad luck So Mi has and if we go for King of Wands, he instead tells us how much good luck she has. I think she generally has just great luck, she attracts both the good and bad kind easily. Nothing she planned throughout the expanssion ever goes the way she wants it to and her fate is usually left up to a strong outside force like V.

[@Jordinho99]

As Reed says "As a chess player, she'd be famous for dazzling plays and excruciatingly beautiful defeats."

[@shymonkey99]

I genuinely believe the king of cups ending is the best for everyone. It prevents Mr Blue Eyes and Myers getting their hands on So Mi, but also allows So Mi to end things on her own terms. You can never really trust if it's her or the AI in control, she's quite happy to kill anyone standing in her path including many innocent bystanders in the stadium if you side against her. The AI likely has full control of her by the end of the game, and the only true moment she has with you is when she asks you to kill her. Rescueing her results in a massacre, war and a potential rogue AI running free. Handing her to Myers is essentially submitting So Mi to a life of inprisonment and to be used as a weapon.

[@benjaminbishop3248]

Idk how anyone can think helping Reed and Myers can be good. Other than game loot, you are being used by both and then you get everyone else who was used by them killed. The AI's are already out Mr,Blue eyes Delimaine, So Mi is not new she has been using the Blackwall for years. The only right choice is to help someone out cause were all gears in the machine. So Mi betraying us is the nicest betrail in the whole game. The best part is like all the other quests for the cure it ends in failure.

[@maxuni6651]

Its honestly noone wins ending: V: does not get the cure SoMi: never regain her freedom Myres: does not get her walking nuke back (only positive of this ending tbh) Reed: Looses everything and maybe he will do something with it. I feel like giving up So Mi at the airport is better at this point.

[@ReaperCet]

​@@benjaminbishop3248 we wouldn't even have been brought into contact with reed and Myers if so mi hadn't lied to us in the first place. If everyone is using everyone to get what they want, why, from V's perspective, reed and Myers' shadiness be worse than So Mi's? It's night city, no one has clean hands. V is only involved in this because they want to live. Reed actually follows through on his promise to V and V survives. That's the best ending.

[@maxuni6651]

@@VictorYami I agree fuck Myres and she still can get data from her corpse, only sure way to make her not get it is to send SoMi to the Moon.

[@VictorYami]

@@maxuni6651 - V getting the cure means giving SoMi as a slave to the NUSA. - SoMi does get her freedom. At that point it was clear that death was the only freedom she had left. - Reed gets a very needed wake up call to stop being the bitch of other people telling him what to believe in (no other ending shakes him up as much as this one). Even though it is not certain that he will act upon this. - Fuck Myers

[@Andri474]

King of Wands. No way am I sending Songbird to Myers, because she's a mirror to V. They're both near death and both deserve to live, but if even one gets to live, all of this would have been worth it. Also, like some people said, the airport massacre isn't on our conscience, it's on Myers, if she even has one. She's clearly a ruthless tyrant. The only loose end is Mr. Blue Eyes, which right now is way too enigmatic to be sure, but I prefer him to Myers.

[@xkalid127]

I agree with the part your said about she's more like V's situation, but the fact is the mr. BE is a loose end is very depressing

[@bab1940]

@@xkalid127 But as he said we dont know mr Blue Eyes that much, so I hope So Mi is okay in the moon

[@xkalid127]

@@bab1940 I’m not optimistic about that😂

[@Ecliptor.]

She's not the same as V at all. People keep saying this, it's such a shallow comparison. Songbird's tragedy is of her own making.

[@gorgeousoutrage5575]

​@@Ecliptor. but V's too. she/he wanted to enter the high league of Night City, took the gig that implied to steal from arasaka. shoud've thought better that messing with such powerful corp would bring consequences

[@Chinesetakeout382]

I really like hearing everyone’s rationale for the choices they made to get to the ending, I did the king of cups ending. And I gotta say, that whole path up to that final choice was the most terrifying, heart wrenching stories I’ve ever played. I haven’t played a game that has ever made me fell this way. But I granted her request because A. If she’s right about her fate, that’s arguable the worst fate for her. B. She likely wouldn’t get better. C. Even if she got better, Meyers would never let her be free. D. Even if she did, the risk to Blackwell is too great. At least if she’s dead, the NUSA’s tampering is delayed. But even though king of cups is my favorite ending, all the others are so well written.

[@RicochetForce]

Seriously, the nuance and themes to the endings are incredibly well written.

[@oreziopancrazio3685]

King of cups. I was furious with So Mi because I understood during the mission to rescue her from Kurt, that she has been using me this whole time, and she will face the consequences of her choices. So I sided with NUSA, even though it was a very difficult decision to take, which was repaid shortly after by having kurt killed by my own hands, something I was waiting to do since the very beginning of the Dlc. After that, I felt sorry for Alex, I felt sorry for the twins, but I really still believed in Reed and NUSA, so went all in to recapture her. Once deep in Cynosure, with her sharing (or losing on the way) her memories, I understood that she was like me (in my real life), she had everything she needed and she lost all because she had been betrayed....... At this very point I took the decision to spare her from being used ever again, I forgive her, and help her be free. What a game.

[@ignatius2510]

I went into PL spoiler-free and chose to side with So Mi out of my spite toward Myers. I felt a bit empty after the plot twist on the train but still sent her to the moon. After that I revisited PL with my second character and sided with Reed. I am actually surprised how many information of So Mi was given in somewhat broken but not in the killing moon. It felt like CDPR was trying to make players empathizing So Mi if we choose to f her over, and make us feel betrayed in killing moon so that we would be motivated to play the other route (props to the devs). But let’s be honest, none of the route has positive influence on V’s fate (story wise). The tower ending in my opinion is on par with the devil, especially if you are play with the “don’t fear the reaper” character (the speech Johnny gave was 😢).

[@Ambience-10]

As for the new ending, exclusive to PL, it’s hard to even say which ending is worse: “Devil” or “Tower”. V lost everything (just like in the “Devil” ending). In the "tower" ending, I personally had doubts about V's prospects for survival. Will he be able to fully recover after the operation (he literally can barely move)? If not, then his life is doomed to exist in the form of a weak person, and Night City does not spare the weak... Yes, the only way for V to survive is to become a fixer, and technically he will be able to do this thanks to his reputation, but will he succeed This? The issue is controversial for me personally, especially given the warnings of Rogue Amendiares. On the other hand, in the “Devil” ending, V has a ghostly hope of returning in a normal healthy body in the future, but the only question is when (moreover, V most likely will have, in principle, no connections with people in Night City, and no friends )? It is possible that Arasaka is not lying to V and they will indeed provide him with a new body in the future. Arasaka can literally force V’s personality to be digitized, but they release him if he refuses to digitize his personality, which is evidence in their favor. If there were real guarantees that V would receive a body in the future, then the “Devil” ending would definitely be better than the “Tower” ending - V in both cases loses friends and property, but in the first case he will at least have a healthy body, and with him prospects. The problem is that there are no such guarantees, so I believe that “Devil” and “Tower” are on the same level. Although the Tower ending made an even more depressing impression on me, perhaps due to the fact that it is longer and it clearly shows how weak and uninteresting to anyone (except for Victor, Misty and a couple of others) V has become.

[@sithmaster4305]

Disagree about tower v gets his quiet life and a chance to rebuild However they want. It's a brand new life even if his legend fades he still lives on with new friends or a new job at least

[@AlineaEuros]

In the Tower ending while V loses his old life, Arasaka still gets taken down by Yorinobu and Goro also sees the problem with Arasaka if you saved him, and V accomplishes was he was doing for the whole game... Survive however youre now a nobody, no one is remembering you, and you wont have the power to become a legend no more. You live a long quiet life and will die quietly. Its not a bad ending for V id argue its far better than the Devil ending because you help Arasaka keep its grip on the world and you dont even get to survive.

[@SillyRiz]

Played PL recently and sided with Reed first and yeah, the somewhat dangerous mission quite literally changed my perspective on her character to the point where I felt guilty even tho I did both the options for that route. Reloaded the save and helped So Mi and that felt a lot more fulfilling to me.

[@ad-ezzz]

I personally feel like the one where you disconnect her from that core and let her pass on is the most "wholesome" I guess I mean we see her memories we talk to her in a good way and we even hug her I just feel like it's just the most positive I guess even if Solomon blames us a bit we kinda make up with him idk that's just my personal outlook

[@KJTD]

Funny enough, it's the rarest ending to get. Most people let her live and give her to the NUSA

[@ad-ezzz]

@@KJTD I personally don't feel like that's good man horrible corporate sceems and all and they'd like abuse her and mess with her mind even more I mean she rather die then go back to the NUSA

[@DrBusiness9]

The way I see it Reed is already a husk of a man, more of a walking principle than a person, if he has to die in order for Songbird to try and seize whatever opportunity she wants with Kang Tao I’ll kill him everytime

[@DrBusiness9]

*and even if Reed comes to understand this, I really doubt he’ll ever escape the NUSA’s clutches

[@ShadowProject01]

I stand by So Mi all the way. I will put her on that rocket everytime. Just can’t bring myself to betray her…even if it results in the most deaths…I mean at this point V is already a mass killer. What’s a few more hundred deaths in my body count 😂

[@coltforceplayer]

I swear to god if Cyberpunk 2 doesn’t start with the outcome of any ending you’ve chosen, like starting with V attacking that Palace in Space or living life with the Aldecados then I’ll be so mad

[@quantumjet253]

I would imagine practically everyone that reached the 'end' of this game feels the same way. But I think such an option will never happen. The problem with multiple endings/starts is that it's a huge resource, that personally I think is best spent on a more linear story path. If the sequel were to do as you'd want to see, ultimately it would prove an empty gift for loyal fans as ultimately the rest of the game would have to be the same for everyone meaning that the V that loses her body, the V that only has six months to live, the V that joins the 'matrix'(!), the V that loses the ability to have implants/cyber-tech, would have all of massive life-changing/ended circumstance reversed, made ultimately a worthless and pointless drama (literally) out of nothing! Don't get me wrong, I love the idea you suggest. A long time ago I had hoped to see a similar thing with Mass Effect. But I think multiple endings, multiple character-states is such a huge investment in both time and importantly finances that the industry will always follow the simpler, easier, cheaper path. Personally I don't agree with multiple endings. In part, and in particular should the game get a sequel. But also because it either feels like indecision or desperation. Every story ever told could have had multiple endings; and I'd guess billions of people are rather happy to have one ending to every movie, book, TV show, whatever, that they've enjoyed. To know that the writer/s had a story from start to end and told it as best as they could. Sure, I am just two endings short of having played them all for this game (I only bought it a couple of weeks ago, and spent the first week building/progessing the character's stats/abilities; that's why I'm so late to the table). But I playing them all because I feel compelled. Apart from the atrocious driving mechanics, miserable one-trick mini-game and still the odd glitch/issue, I have, I am loving the game, and so I'm desperately trying not to miss out on anything. Saying that almost all of the endings I've completed so far (doing them in order of what I have had the least interest in, or what I think would be the 'worst') I've found downright miserable, depressing and sad. I have absolutely loved the voice-acting from the V I've played, the female version. Like with Shepard in Mass Effect, I think the female actress is in a whole different class to the male version. And with her ability to emote, express sorrow, anger, happiness, fear, etc a large part of my enjoyment has come from the actor's performance, but I think bringing V back will partly seem contrived. I suspect that's what will happen, but in a way I guess I'd rather see the developers do a 'GTA' create a new character(s, male and female, of course, as this is a perfect game mechanic), with a new adventure/story. But if a contrived bringing back of (our) V is the path they choose, I won't be disappointed. I just hope they fulfill a plan they expressed 18 months prior to this one arriving... and create an online (ala GTA) so that instead of acquiring the best gear/abilities/equipment/set-up to be used for a tiny proportion of the game we can play until we care to stop. Long story short. I like your idea, but I think you might be disappointed if you really think that'll happen (but I hope my prediction is wrong!).

[@prisonisinourminds8070]

@@quantumjet253I think what they can do is start the second game from a few different paths related to different endings? Bc we already start the game from 3 different paths (nomad, streetkid and corpo) so it would make sense to do it again just maybe more paths? 4? Maybe not the one where you give the body to Johnny and include the main phantom liberty ending where u side with NUSA and then somehow figure out how to fix your neurosystem so you can handle cyberware. I’m sure they could figure out something

[@quantumjet253]

@@prisonisinourminds8070 Sure, nothing's impossible. But personally I'm not convinced that they'll bother, and believe they'll likely just go a typical route of starting everyone off in the same place. But yeah, I can (and hope) they follow the path you've suggested. The 'issue' though doing this, and this applies to all sequels who's previous game had more than one ending... what happens with those who have completed all, and those that have completed one, but found out about another one that they'd rather have done. What annoys me about these 'continuing stories...' type sequels (and actually why I love the MMORPG/games as a service route) is that they always rework the abilities/skills making all the previous game's progression worthless, which I suppose 'has' to be done because at the end of any RPG-style game we end it as unbelievably powerful, essentially unstoppable characters. I think the better strategy is to do what most game sequels do and give us a brand new character making the integration of whatever new game mechanics more logical and acceptable. Look, don't misread my negativity. I love the current game. I'm pretty sure I'll love the sequel, and whatever path the developers choose I trust them. I only have two wishes; they dramatically improve the driving mechanics and actually develop a persistent online version for some coop fun/and continuously updated mini-missions and new gear/items.

[@inkquatic]

cyberpunk 2 probably wont have V as the protagonist

[@coltforceplayer]

@inkquatic Nah they will

[@Spojo1]

I personally feel both endings that unlock the PL ending are worse. I think King of Wands is best and then giving So Mi a merciful death is second best in king of cups. People say So Mi lied to us. But so did Reed. He said he would help So Mi disappear but that never happens in any scenario. His plan in firestarter is a massive fuck up of incompetence and if the game was more flexible I would have it so you can go ahead as normal and then try and persuade Reed/So Mi while escaping. At least that way Alex doesn't die. Myers is a terrorist and Reed is a loyal dog. The NUS is solely responsible for what happens in Killing Moon. So I don't even factor that in as a reason not to help So Mi. It only reinforces that we shouldn't help the NUS in anyway. They should not get So Mi's body and they definitely shouldn't get her back alive. I trust blue eyes more than Myers after everything that happened.

[@RicochetForce]

Yeah, people are getting really hung up on So Mi lying to V. So Mi lied and is actively having her humanity robbed from her bit by bit rogue AI. Myers lied through her motherfucking TEETH. Reed lied and is a deluded imbecile mindlessly obeying corrupt slime like the NUSA and Myers. The whole damn thing is a bunch of liars, even Johnny warns you about the shit you're getting yourself into. Personally, I chose to free So Mi of this horrific situation. She no longer suffers and V granted her wish, Reed FINALLY realizes he needs to fucking change and bail on NUSA, NUSA/Militech don't get their way with a blackwall weapon, and Myers gets fucked over. Win-Win.

[@anosvoldigoat3351]

Well put

[@poakcastle]

Agreed, I never felt responsible for the airport massacre and I am somewhat puzzled that it’s mentioned as an argument to not choose this ending. To me, it shows that Myers would stop at nothing to get what she wants and I felt pretty vindicated from my choice to oppose her. I was really shocked at how cold blooded she was when I realized the NUS was shooting the airport security and civilians and not me. Anyway my corpo V understood the struggle to get away from the corporate overlords and that while So Mi was reckless, she was desperate and nothing she did was enough to escape the iron fist of Myers. Also, V is pretty reckless herself and doesn’t have lessons to give to anyone, considering the heist, the kang tao AV, the kidnapping at the parade and the assault on Mikoshi.

[@RicochetForce]

@@poakcastle Exactly. V's rampage across and around Night City all while pursuing ANY scrap of a chance of curing themselves of the biochip is the type of desperate, reckless flailing someone trying to survive a hideous situation would do.

[@DeftestAphid2]

Also if youre not a netrunner, Song's cyberware is debatabley more useful.

[@Zzues]

I really liked the King of Wands ending because I feel like it gives hope to some potentially awesome storylines in the future. I really want to know more about the rogue AI's out there and especially the ones So Mi has touched. If she is on the moon with Mr. Blue Eyes, what the heck is his plan? There could be some incredible stories along these lines.

[@killerkuerbis6845]

King of Cups also helps V realize clinging onto life at all costs will destroy you in the end, accepting their fate to storm arasaka

[@teneb3385]

I wish in the king of wands ending when she tells us about the neural matrix, there was a dialogue option like "I had my suspicions" or "I expected something like this" or something. Given shit V has gone through and my character having the corpo life path, he should have expected this. I find it hard to believe that V didn't have any doubts about Songbird. He sounded pretty surprised like he completely believed her. Because Song was pretty sus for me after we put it together after the party. She got even more suspicious with the way she behaves in the conversation in the place that reminds her of home. If you stay serious and dead honest in that conversion it's pretty apparent she is trying to sweet talk us and her desperation just shows. She really want her plan to work. That "would have helped anyway" line by V was exactly what I was doing all along. And thought he knew as well, helping despite his doubts.

[@sebastjankrek1744]

It's funny, my V told Song in the end of the sweet talking scene that he just wants to survive... But in my mind he didn't fully mean it. It was more like, I'm trying to survive just like you, and I got your back anyways.

[@jolantagorecka8158]

You can express your doubts way earlier, in the convo you have with her right before snatching the French twins. She replies that she has to trust you too because you can just snitch on her to Reed. And on the way to the shuttle that actually made me help her anyway. In that moment she relied solely on the bound the shared misery created between her and V and it was her first good bet in a long time. 😉

[@LogisticPeach]

“Would’ve helped anyway” must’ve hit songbird hard.

[@etherealdreamerart]

I chose The King of Cups ending first because I saw her memories and granted her wish. Sending her back to NUSA was unacceptable after I uncovered Myers lies with my intuition and Reed thankfully had an ephinany to leave FIA/NUSA knowing his belief in the cause was shaken and deep down, he knew they were corrupt.

[@koklusz89]

King of Cups is the most fitting ending to the PL story, IMO. Nobody gets what they wanted, but everyone gets what they deserve.

[@cantu7214]

@@koklusz89damn that hits hard

[@etherealdreamerart]

@@koklusz89 I agree very much.

[@AaronTats]

@@koklusz89perfect way to put it

[@Strutsss]

He always knew they were corrupt, they left him for dead years ago. He just couldn't accept that his employer would do such a thing and thought that if he was loyal enough, they would forgive him - of course, in the end that is all gone as Myers said. V points it out as much in the Moon ending.

[@glockmat]

Honestly, I went with King of Swords because I was so fucking tyred of callousness, like in the Stadium she straight admits that dozens of innocents will die, her reaction "They will die so can survive" this alone almost made side with Reed, but them after all of that, and the fucking Airport Shootout that, no joke, took me more than an hour, she just goes: "Oh, BTW, betrayed you too, I can't cure us both". Cant or wont? Because as you told 100 times, the AI will follow any order you tell it to, you CAN cure us both, you just wont, guess I'd be a loose end. Also I love Alex, so just having the possibility that she survived is enough for me, ish

[@crazy-tommy]

For me the best is King of Wands. So Mi is finally free, Alex survives and we have a nice goodbye and you can dodge this annoying spider mission. Only Reed doesn't make it, but he is so selfish and stubborn that its his own fault. He actually fully lost my trust after he texted me that he has "taken care" of the two goons that helped protect the president ... you fully understand what this means after he casually kills the redheads.

[@austinbond2527]

Bingo

[@Tsumefan2]

he got them a car they're fine i got a text from them

[@T3ntacleBoy]

@@Tsumefan2 yeah and your dog is fine too, he just went to live on a farm

[@rajatbajracharya4697]

I don't think the two goons (Jacob and Taylor) are actually dead. I waited for Reed and Myers to leave Dogtown and then went back to the hideout to find them still chilling there. As for the twins, it really was cold-blooded for Reed to straight-up execute them but Alex was also involved in it tho. I tried so hard to save them! 😢

[@AntisepticHandwash]

I fucking love Sam Bram Cyberpunk 2077 videos. They're so comprehensive and have such a professionalism about them. My go-to channel for any covered Cyberpunk topic.

[@iainkilcar7463]

I think the cure ending is supposed to show that even though they're not as bad as arasaka the nusa is still at it's heart a cooperation and working with them will leave you feeling somewhat hollow by the end.

[@kenn5959]

Absolutely loved the soundrack during the decision of Songbird's fate in Phantom Liberty. That track was so hauntingly beautiful.

[@ZwipeAir]

Got the same shivering feeling as when Maine gone cyber psycho in edgerunners.

[@nathanielpetrick8209]

To me the king of swords phantom liberty ending actually makes the most sense if you have a positive/agreeing relationship with Johnny and just want to find the cure for your self. You deal the most damage to the NUSA and then flip the finger to Songbird for stringing you along the whole time. I went this route with my main character and also denied any help from the NUSA so I can do the Fear the Reaper ending and storm Arasaka at the end. The Corps and the government can get lost.

[@ReaperCet]

I also think the cure ending is the best, but only if you're pretty much done with the game. Feels like a real retirement.

[@henryviiifake8244]

As it should be. So Mi fucked around, now she gets to find out. What So Mi did to V is the equivalent of conning someone you know has a rare disease into paying for an "experimental treatment" that you 100% know 1) will not work and 2) will only inflate _your_ bank balance. V owes So Mi nothing.

[@SalandVin99956]

Agree, although a lot of people are dead, main characters are allowed to live and possibly correct their errors, while keeping V’s word.

[@Kburn1985]

You didn't know reed was going to walk out the last moment there, and was intending on following through. It's the cop out ending where you can't stomach killing reed over your ideals, which is the opposite of silverhand. The closest one to silverhand is king of wands, just screw over and kill everyone in the name of giving the finger to authority. It's pretty obvious from the get go that so mi was just manipulating you, but you use her instead as a casus belli to be a terrorist and make mayhem. Silverhand raided arasaka tower in the name of saving alt, but his real intention was mayhem, which is why he brought a nuke.

[@mariuzmadden8552]

​​@@Kburn1985"The Desire, to destroy"🎶

[@Vegas8X]

My take on King of Swords (Long read, TLDR at bottom): This is the ending I got on my first playthrough of PL. Now, if we are looking at it through a gaming/loot lens, we get jack shit in this ending, no question. But I want to break it down narratively, at least from my perspective at the time. I went into PL completely blind, no spoilers or anything, and I want to say that it really makes sense for V in the way the story transpires. How? Well, firstly we are introduced to Reed, Alex and So Mi who are all in a dire situation from the get go, all topped off with the promise of a cure. Early on I realized that there was sketchy behavior on both sides (So Mi betraying Reed in the past, and Reed and Alex executing the twins) but in my mind V was going through all of the obstacles in Dogtown for one thing, that cure Songbird promised. Clock was ticking and it was our best shot (I finished the game at launch but wanted to play PL as if I didn't know about future events). Fast-forward to So Mi opening up on the balcony and she seemed completely genuine, after which I was pretty sure that I wasn't going to 100% go with Reed's plan of betraying her since I saw that she really didn't want to go back to Myers. It's important to note that at this point I'm already invested in all of the character's stories and have really grown fond of them, meaning that whatever happens I don't want to get anyone killed. Fast-forward some more and there I am giving Alex the thumbs up to slice Hansen to ribbons. Escape with So Mi doesn't go smooth at all like I hoped but I thought "fuck it", in too deep already and I'm leaving with the cure one way or another. Then it happened, on the train ride to the shuttle So Mi drops the bomb that we have been had all along. Now, this part sort of fucked me up because obviously given her past I thought she might betray me but I had hoped that after her opening up and V being her only hope that she would at least help a brother out. I was still considering letting her fly up there but when Reed walked out, I just couldn't do it, I couldn't end this man's life over someone who I didn't trust anymore and most of all is a walking WMD on a trajectory to the Moon to meet with the AI gods. I realized that I might have made a mistake trusting her and going through with her plan, but it was too late, the damage was done. It was then I decided that it was enough, I had done horrible things, been betrayed, and put into countless horrible situations in the span of a couple of days. I put Songbird down and let Reed have her, hoping that after everything he would at least try to look after her. I even refused the damn cure, wanted nothing to do with it, I just wanted to be out of that situation. Decided that Panam's ending is still better off than dealing with shit this heavy. Silver lining though, talked to Reed afterwards and he seemed to have a new outlook. Got a post card from Monte Carlo from Alex too, which means she got her wish. Not being hunted by the FIA either so Myers can eat dirt. And Songbird... it sucks but at least she isn't dead. She might have to serve but being alive means the possibility of escaping in the future, maybe even with Reed's help seeing that he is having a change of heart. And last but not least, let's not forget that humanity's greatest threat is still tucked away beyond the Blackwall, at least for now... TLDR: Got played, commited war crimes and after countless horrors just had enough and even gave up on the cure. But at least everyone I met along the way lived to see another day. No war and no helping AI overlords to world domination.

[@piotrgorostiza2332]

my experience was very similar. i kinda think this ending is the most dramatic one possible and still not as bad as it is portrayed in the video

[@dzramen]

And the thing is that you can still get the cure in the end. Gameplay wise it doesn't matter, because getting the cure kind of ends the game, but putting yourself into V's shoes, accepting an offer from NUSA sounds much better than accepting Hanako's offer (in both cases you get an offer from a corp/government, but in Arasaka's case the offer is conditional and you did steal their most valuable tech after all), and the other options of invading the Arasaka HQ are basically suicide missions that you can only beat, because its a video game and you can reload to previous save when you die. Without the benefit of hindsight on my first playthrough, I did go with this path, but I would add that betraying Reed at first isn't just about Reed vs Songbird and also about the massive overconfidence in the plan of just using software to beat Songbird, who is shown to be uniquely the most capable netrunner in the FIA doing dangerous things with the Blackwall on multiple occasions and coming out alive. Slider got literally fried in his full setup while Songbird can communicate with you via Blackwall while walking and talking with Hansen. Its clear that Songbird is hiding something, so just logically thinking its not a great idea to go against her without a foolproof way of incapacitating her when moments before the decision she tells you that killing a bunch of random people to survive is perfectly fine (and well, thats in addition to nearly killing the president).

[@kkblaze312]

I am 100 pct with you. Joined song for the cure Never had any intentions to let her down but....the train ride? and finding out it was for Mr Blue, especially if u watch the epilogue calls from Peralez in the end . Myers cant be worse than Blue Eyes he's on some other shit. Reed also deserved some redemption cuz ina way he's just like just another person whose life got flipped upside down for helping So Mi, like Johnny says she's got the worst fucking luckj in the world but he can't blame her for trying to fly close to the sun

[@Resi1ience]

That wasn't far off from my experience, either. It felt right to save Songbird, fight the NUSA to get her out of there, and wipe out an entire armada of black ops all to spit in Myers' eye. But that veneer of rebellion just melted away when she revealed she'd played us like a fiddle. And I tossed around with the decision for so long when Reed showed up. I googled it and discovered I'd get a new ending if I gave her up, and fuck-all if I didn't. That was the dealbreaker for me. Sorry, Song. You dicked me.

[@mariuzmadden8552]

It was like that for me at the begining, and at the end I got shot by Reed, I coudnt do it lol, then I respawned, and felt bad for so mi shes been fighting for so long, and she could finally be free, she just needed a little push, reed was another Takemura for me cant let go of his duty, so I did the sensible thing and allowed him to die as an american hero, so mi left, the demon in V came out and V decided that it would be best to die from lead in the head than in some clinic so he went to get himself killed at arasaka, managed to rip and tear through saka ninjas and smasher and became a legend.

[@TheKrilliys]

I went with the king of swords, simply for the roleplay reasons. My V is cold and rational with their only real concern being survival. Every time the game gave me the option to say something in line of "I don't care what to do if it means I survive", i went with it and was upfront about it with everybody involved, so when So Mi told me she couldnt help my case, while Reed could - the choice was obvious.

[@jokewhygaming4173]

I went in spoiler free and ended with the king of swords ending cuz I simply didn’t wanna die. Her fault for telling the truth at the end.

[@ST-or1ce]

@@jokewhygaming4173Yh exactly, the betrayal was fresh in my mind

[@cap_holzter8114]

I also did King of Swords, and intended on going down that route because it is truly the only one where everyone lives, especially Alex and Reed both. The two of them don't survive together in any other ending, and I wanted them to live. I also didn't want to off So Mi, but I do recognize that I may as well have killed her by giving her up to the NUSA. Also this got me the Tower ending

[@davideberhardt6150]

Love reading everyone's roleplaying ideas for their specific V. My V is impulsive and a decent Silverhand pupil. If we can piss on some Corpo's leg, we will ... never mind the consequences. It's CyberPUNK after all, self-destruction included. 😄

[@jancorykheer1592]

I have to say I am quite glad I saved smartly so that I can experience all the different endings. Overall all of them are amazing to play en so tough to decide which one is the best. All of them have consequences but that makes it even more amazing. Showing you that you have to choose what fits you bests. All in all just a breathtaking expansions. Another thing, finishing the DLC and having that credit scene with that amazing song just gives me chills. Love it.

[@piotrgorostiza2332]

I've had the king of swords ending and honestly i would not change that. Maybe it was bad for Songbird, but man after that backstab she deserved that. This also fits well into the phantom liberty vibe cause V realizes that he had been betrayed and changes sides at the end in this intrigue game. Also Alex and Reed survived and i kinda liked them even after betrying.

[@UzairTheTuber]

Yea exactly, what this vid unfortunately fails to address is the fact V ultimately wants to survive. The DLC started on the premise Songbird was going to help V find a cure. Songbirds betrayal stung.

[@connorwright8652]

@@UzairTheTuberThats what I thought too, role playing in the mind of V, he doesn't know so mi will betray him. He's simply doing all of this to cure both himself and so mi. When he finds out she was lying, he decides to fall back on his true motives which are for him to survive by any means necessary. I chose king of swords by calling reed on the train and I wouldn't change it. Fuck so mi

[@stefisundays]

I betrayed So Mi solely because of the fact her plan was to “go off the grid and get a ripperdoc to cure us somewhere” I was like girlie that’s not a plan. And then she goes completely cyberpsycho and has the audacity to say: the deaths of all this people are on your hands. Uhm no they are not. Also the entire scary robot scene she keeps saying “I trusted you! The only person I trusted”, like, why? The only thing I know about you is that you love Brooklyn. Also I didn’t kill her because in the base game Johnny and Alt go to the blackwall so I kept thinking “eh, it can’t be that bad”. My shock face when I learned she straight up tells you she was never going to help you in the other endings lmao

[@rodrigod2281]

I wish i betrayed her since the begining u-u

[@ShepNormandy]

I feel sorry for songbird, but she deceived us from beginning to end. That's why I got the medicine for which I came to dogtown, because V just wanted to survive.

[@esziis]

​​@@ShepNormandy Everyone has his own perception of V. My V wanted to survive through the help of Songbird, so obviously I sided with So mi and not Reed. When the scene in the train after the dark wall killing event happened, when she said it was only for 1 person and begged us to let her survive. I was just like, damn she's like us, just like us, like V. I can't sacrifice her, that would betray my V, myself. Then I killed Reed without any doubt when I shooted him. Songbird deserved to live, like V.

[@theworldclown]

Same. So Mi approached V out of the blue, messed around with V's relic, gave them an important offer which turned out was just a lie. She lied to V during the whole first part so I couldn't bring myself to trust her at that point. The Brooklyn part was touching but the timing felt manipulative. Also yeah, her plan is not a plan at all, and the way she act just remind me of a teenage girl who yearn for a "freedom" she knows nothing about. Granted, once I knew of her suffering, I honoured the girl wish to die. Kill off the chance for me to get a cure but fuck it, if someone else has to suffer for eternity for my sake then I dont want it. Also, seeing later how Myers "the president" is a real prick, I am glad I didn't give her the last laugh.

[@KillerHammerFIN]

It's implied that Songbird has Avoidant Personality Disorder or AvPD underneath all that emotional and physical abuse she experienced at FIA. Now obviously I'm no psychiatrist but respected sources do tell me that people with AvPD fear the most that a person rejects them so by betraying her at the lab the player causes her worst fear to happen and because of that inner turmoil the AI (that she constantly has to fight) was able to take more control hence the voice and eye color changes. When you don't betray her only her eyes change color. During somewhat damaged she asks those things because you the player were supposed to understand her fight to live. V most likely was the only person she has opened up to even the little amount she did since start at FIA.

[@kirkshanghai]

I got the King of Pentacles (surgery) ending and every single moment of that DLC surpassed my already-high expectations of this masterpiece of a game. I mean, the Kurt Hansen and MaxTac boss fights were just spectacular. Then the creepy ambiance and sheer terror I felt in "Somewhat Damaged' was so unexpected but fun. And then the new surgery ending of the game was just so poignant to me-- the message shows me that even if you experience some sort of physical or mental disability, not all of your doors are closed in life and there's always a new path to walk. I like to think after that ending, V becomes a fixer themselves and uses their NC knowledge to guide the next generation of mercs. Just a spectacular game.

[@gamblerfls]

No, V doesn't become a fixer. V becomes friendless, alone, powerless, hated, and will die to a random psycho in the next corner because they made thousands of enemies and they're weaker than any NPC. CDPR exaggerated too much on the drawbacks of the cure ending. V doesn't even get to stay with their lover. No thanks.

[@kirkshanghai]

How do you know? V literally says in a dialogue option that they want to become a fixer in NC. Not to mention if you look closely at the very last few seconds of the ending cinematic, V is smiling as they walk away. CDPR made this ending an open book, sure, but I think you are ignoring a few of the things they very clearly showed here. V's going to be OK. Just my thoughts @@gamblerfls

[@Elnotronic]

i also love the ending where v looses everything. power and strenght are meaningless. also getting shit on by a random looser feels so satisfying, since you have a lot of nc knowledge

[@SonOfHubris]

​@@gamblerflsu realize thats not permanent right, ure friendless and alone at the moment, and ud sure as shit be friendless and alone in death

[@wolvAUS]

Songbird moon ending + The Star ending is absolutely perfect for me.

[@XTINGAX]

moon ending + panam ending

[@YouTubeOnly-bj6yk]

@@XTINGAXYESSS! V and Panam and the rest of the aldacados leaving night city is literally the best ending for the Original story.

[@poakcastle]

Don’t know if you had seen this, but in the king of wands ending Alex eventually deserted in my playthrough, leaving a postcard from another country I don’t recall. The postcard was left at the original appartement a week or two after meeting her last. I did give her the coin so she could fake V’s death to her superiors, don’t know if that matters.

[@Hydra_X9K_Music]

Monte Carlo

[@TheOriginalPoon]

Alex doesn’t desert, Meyers holds her end of the bargain and gives her a permanent diplomatic assignment (read; retirement) in Monte Carlo Which is exactly what Alex always wanted, she gets a true happy ending

[@poakcastle]

@@TheOriginalPoon Well that’s true if you give up Songbird at the spaceport. If Songbird escapes, Alex receives the assignment to assassinate you. When you meet her after the ending, she tells you that she intends to wait for your soonish death instead of risking going after you. However, she sends you a postcard not too long after that when you are still very much alive. I’m pretty sure that qualifies as going AWOL. I don’t think Myers would be satisfied with waiting for the Relic to kill V, she wants Alex to kill you ASAP.

[@JingleJangle256]

Hold up! That massacre at the space port wasn’t our fault. That was NUSA through and through.

[@j0hndee]

yep. they werent shooting at v.

[@hasspass8751]

How about the Stadium that was entirely So Mi and Vs fault

[@dusty3328]

​@@hasspass8751 braghs? What about those thousands corp soldiers that V kills along the game?

[@clayheinzerling1852]

Sam just pumping these out. Well done dude

[@SamBram]

Got plenty more where this came from. Main endings ranked soon

[@dcriket9]

Another Cyberpunk ending that could start another Cyberpunk game would be that Johnny gets V's body, V goes with Alt, and Alt clones a body for V's new engram to start a new game with nothing...

[@carador9286]

1:32 - The point was the hope that So Mi would make it to the clinic and find a cure for both of us. After what she said during the train ride, looking at her condition and after what Reed said in front of the shuttle, that hope evaporated. So I finished Phantom Liberty with King of Swords and while it didn't feel good, in terms of the story it felt very relatable. In the end, So Mi and V had maneuvered themselves into a dead end from which Reed offered a last resort. I made every decision the way my V would have made it in that situation, so it was the right ending for me.

[@jaroslavb.korinek7285]

Last I checked there were two seats in that damn shuttle. Could've fly with her.

[@thomasdawson7052]

Not sure If anyone has mentioned this before but the Alpha Centauri thread also links to William Gibson's Neuromance, the novel that first defined the Cyberpunk genre and was a huge influence on the oriignal RPG. In the novel a super AI make contact with 'intelligence' from Alpha Centauri. In fact lots of links between events in the that novel and the game. CDPR certainly pay homage to it. Maybe a source for a deep dive of the future.

[@foxfire7]

I like sending her to the moon the best. Because on a personal level for V it's the one that gels the most with the personal ideals. I also like that this is the ending where the world gets shaken the most by the immediate consequences, it's a chance to alter the status quo. Just siding with Reed and giving So Mi up to the NUSA just feels very similar to the Devil's ending in terms of just siding with the Corps. I do like the path you play through here though, but I prefer ending it by granting So Mi's request instead. Turning her to Reed after going through Killing Moon just feels worse than her betraying me. I don't like that ending, even if So Mi deserves it. I like sending her to the moon with V bitching at her all the way though, that's a good compromise.

[@thundereagle4130]

By giving Songbird to Mr Blue Eyes who will abuse her skill one way or another and cause countless deaths at the spaceport. Siding with Reed and giving her to NUSA at least won't cause countless deaths.

[@madphantompixels6478]

@@thundereagle4130 Throughout history millions if not billions of people have died in wars/genocides started by the governments of countries. A number of tragic deaths at the airport is almost certainly the lesser of two evils. An evil which is essentially also perpetrated by the NUSA.

[@henryviiifake8244]

Huh? So Mi hijacks the Relic to force V to help her, stringing along V - who she KNOWS is being slowly and painfully killed by the Relic - with the hope of a cure to their situation, knowing _full damn well V will get NOTHING out of it!_ 😂 There is ZERO reason for V to be merciful to So Mi other than the player having the patience of a saint. You can argue V deserves their situation due to accept if the job fro. Evelyn, but So Mi objectively coerced V. There's no arguing that.

[@thundereagle4130]

@@FanGier3322333 There is no need to, I made the correct choice anyway. And honestly I don't really have the energy to debate people who just simp for her, but think have some decent arguments. If So Mi was a dude, people would agree with me.

[@Silas-Inservio-Pax]

​@@thundereagle4130 look at you, injecting "i made the correct choice.." into the discussion while at the same time saying you're not here to debate. What the fuck you doing here then? Get lost you gonk.

[@ukaszpustelnik6850]

What I need to know is what happens to the 10 million eddies my V gathers throughout the game at the end of the tower ending. Why does he get to be an NPC instead of a multi-millionaire living in a mansion in North Oak after fulfilling nearly a hundred gigs and selling tons upon tons of looted firearms

[@Andri474]

This also happens in the Witcher series and pretty much every RPG. They all handwave the massive amounts of gold and XP farming we do because the games are supposed to take place over a short period of time, while we can farm indefinitely.

[@SinRayquaza]

On the path you side with So Mi. You can only get Hansen's LMG and handgun, its because Alex took it to end him with it. That why when you go loot his body, the knife is missing. Which is great attention to details

[@hyperturbotechnomike]

I often like to play a more chaotic and selfish character and i liked the king of swords ending the most. The spaceport battle was pure chaos and fun to play. Explosions and bullets everywhere. V's main goal is to be remembered after his death and after this ending, combining it with the "hidden" arasaka solo base game ending, he certainly will get remembered similar to johnny. I wonder, if the next Cyberpunk game will be able to read the save data of 2077 and based on the ending changes it a little bit. //edited for minor typo correction

[@Sarc0n]

My ending was the king of cups and I'm super satisfied by it. My V (a female ex corpo netrunner holding a bit of empathy) tried everything to actually resolve the situation with the minimum number of casualties and siding with So Mi wasn't an option, Reed was genuinely honest saying he would have taken her far away from Myers after her rescue but things degenerated drastically after the choice, the death of Alex was a tragic accident (My V couldn't predict what would happen after the use of the ICE-breaker) and Reed had to swap back to the original plan giving So Mi to Myers. After discovering more about the Cynosure project, So Mi's memories and the real danger of the rogue AI to the human race my V decided in an act of both mercy towards Songbird and caring for the fate of the world to end So Mi's life even though this would lead to the lost of the only opportunity to save V's life. Giving Songbird back to the NUSA alive, allowing them to secretly keep going beyond the Blackwall, was a real danger and the game wasn't worth it. The overall experience with Songbird changed drastically my V, even though she has now the means to unleash the power of the blackwall thanks to the Erebus or the Militech Canto Mk.6 she decided to be a kind of guardian of the blackwall refusing to use such power, also going against the NUSA in the end kind made her closer to Johnny's view of the world. V will eventually find her "solution" someway inside the Mikoshi. The final conversation wit Reed also gave V the chance to plant the seed of doubt regarding his relationship with the NUSA

[@dianasaurus3174]

Although I agree King of Swords is arguably the worst ending given it's the one that causes the most damage to the world (the spaceport massacre, Myers having Songbird tinker with the Blackwall again and what seems like an inminent 5th corporate war) I disagree in that it's pointless. Songbird hired V to save the president and promised V a cure. And not only did V save the president, they also agreed to help her escape. They could've easily have sold her out to the NUSA but instead chose the harder route. And then, she reveals that she cannot cure you. That there is only one cure, that she has been lying to you this whole time and that she planned to use it to save herself. I guess it depends on how you play as V, but I know mine hadn't gone through all that shit only for Songbird, her "friend" to suddenly reveal everything had been a lie and that she wasn't going to actually help. I'm sorry So Mi, maybe if you had told me earlier I wouldn't have minded, but if you put me through hell with the promise of a cure, you better bet I'm going to get it. Friendships are built on trust, and betraying me like that isn't what I'd consider the beginning of one.

[@ReaperCet]

So mi isn't your friend, you knew her for a week tops lol. But I agree. They could have written it so that there WERE 2 cures, but one got damaged in the escape. Then you could choose to save yourself and live with the guilt, or save her. That would have been 1000% better imo. Now, I just hate songbird lol.

[@Vegas8X]

Strongly agree

[@anecdotalpreacher3047]

Well said, had the exact same thoughts and having seen the trailer for phantom liberty So mi just seems like a Manipulator and a liar for all the one on one talk she’s had with v making us believe she was genuine and sincere about helping us with the cure, not saying it’s totally unjustifiable for her to seek out the cure but using another person just as desperate and vulnerable to help fight for you only to throw them under the bus just left a bad taste for me.

[@jakeschwartz2514]

Buddy that means to get the cure you used Songbird and her Blackwall powers till she dropped just like Myers did. You are absolutely no better than the NUSA’s use of Songbird and the blackwall. The best ending is giving Songbird to Reed and not taking the cure at all.

[@dianasaurus3174]

@@jakeschwartz2514 nah bro So Mi literally manipulates you the whole time and then at least has the decency to reveal she was planning on leaving you to rot. She used V. This is Night City, and morality may be fine and dandy but when you're dying and the only actual cure that you've been fighting for is slipping away, are you really going to let it go to waste because "it's the right thing to do"? It's a selfish choice, like how her manipulating V into doing most of her bidding was a selfish choice. But it's absolutely not on the same level as Myers.

[@ChiliTheDino]

I walked away from the final Songbird betrayal mission when she rampages into the horror sequence, and now I can't acsess it now lol.

[@csdn4483]

Let me explain why King of Cups (Songbird dies) is the best ending. If you pay attention to all the information that Songbird gives you in the Brooklyn apartment, you realized that the AI is slowly, but surely devouring her psyche. She is becoming a meat puppet (as much meat as she has left) for the AI. If you let her live and hand her over to the NUSA, it's a fate worse than death. Now, why is sending her to the moon not a good ending for her. Three words: Mr. Blue Eyes. Now, you may be wondering, how is it bad that Mr. Blue Eyes is involved in sending her to the moon. 1) Mr. Blue Eyes contacts her, not her contacting him to get a ticket to the moon. 2) Mr. Blue Eyes is directly involved in the modifying the memories of the Peralezes. 3) While you get a message from Songbird saying she's doing good, the black clinic may have allowed the AI to fully take over and it now knows how to hide its control. Songbird dying is the only way she can be truly free. Reed also has his best ending under Songbird dying where he finally realizes that everything he's done, all his ideals, have been for nought and now he has a chance to actually free himself. It's the worst ending for Alex. It's also a middle finger to Meyers as well.

[@WaterWitch83]

I think letting So Mi die is the best ending. I just wish she had given V the neural matrix (before Reed shows up) like Jacki did with the bio chip. That would give the NUSA fewer things to doom the world. Also from a story basis destroying the behavioral chip before making it into a weapon would make that ending even better. On a side note, you can disassemble said chip which I think is actually not something that was intended. Since it doesn’t fail the quest to visit the netrunner. Now if Blue Eyes ends up being on the good side (I have my doubts) then sending So Mi to the moon would be the best ending. The innocent lives taken would be less than what it would be if the AIs are allowed to wipe humanity off the face of the earth. Lastly there is one better response to Myers than telling her fuck you. I forget which one it was, but Myers says “don’t forget who you’re talking to” and V replies, “and who would that be?” Which I think hits Myers harder in more ways than the fuck you response. It gives her more food for thought to say. She can just shrug off a fuck you as V being immature.

[@TheAnon26]

Did King of Swords. Mostly cause Songbird did feel like the better ally for most of the quest, buuuuut... Then Songbird tells V she basically duped them. That kind of betrayal made giving her up in return for getting to live the most satisfying end for me. It was a very cyberpunk ending - you struggle, and its all for nought in the end.

[@matthewdignam7381]

If Phantom Liberty was a movie King of Swords would be the ending for sure. So I'm happy this was my choice too

[@unit2a766]

The best enging is the one which brings the most harm to US govt

[@maskedman5657]

The "Cure" ending in my opinion is still one imo very slept on. It's probably one of the more sadder endings in the game considering how much you lose in the end. But I think that's kinda the point. I think the game is supposed to show you that despite all odds and how dire the situation comes for V he/she can find a purpose outside of being a Merc. You lost most of your friends but you can still technically contact Misty and V. Don't get me wrong the ending has A LOT of problems and I think the writing suffers on this one alot. Panam completely abandoning you is sooo out of character and Rogue not wanting you to go back to the afterlife is just cruel.

[@uzan6893]

Rogue idea was let your legend live on, because people will belittle V if they continuously see what happened and everything l He/she achieved will be for nothing.

[@TheCakeIsNotLie]

It works perfectly for a Corpo V

[@Cyanbuns]

I enjoyed the ending too, but is it a 'good' ending for V tho? We've played through the game seeing random people from every facet of life get stomped on, except for the edgerunners and high up corpos. Today, V gets pushed down the stairs, tomorrow, it's her getting splatted on a sidewalk from a gang drive-by. V survived, but her feats didn't really earn her anything. Overall I thought they wanted to emphasize that the 'peaceful life' Dex was going on about doesnt really exist in NC

[@FireCrestGaming]

I remember doing my initial playthrough I saved So Mi and killed Reed then after I went back to experience the final phantom liberty ending it just left me with a sinking feeling in my gut especially when Johnny had the line of eventually people will betray themselves it just felt wrong. On the other side siding with Reed from the beginning while not feeling 100% right it probably took me on the biggest emotional roller coaster through all the missions and events that occurred plus mercy killing So Mi while a horrid thing to do at least she wasn’t a slave to the NUSA anymore, this game and expansion was just so good I can’t get enough

[@anosvoldigoat3351]

Yeah because it's totally safe to hand over a wmd to Myers

[@SidheKnight]

Bizarrely, your worst PL ending is my first (and best) ending: - Reed survives - Alex survives - Songbird survives (albeit living a sad, horrible life as an NUSA prisoner, but if your "proxy for blackwall AIs on the moon" theory is correct, that might be even worse) - V has the option to undergo neural matrix treatment (probably won't take it, but still) - Myers.. idk what happens to her, but I assume she's forgiven V since he surrendered Songbird in the end, or at least, doesn't put a hit on him/her.

[@j0hndee]

lol myers is the true antagonist in PL.

[@avm2017]

I replayed each ending three times, depending on who I was in the past. For me, the best of all is: 1 place) The King of Cups (StreetKid), 2 place) The King of Swords, where we refuse help from the FIA and NUSA (Corpo) 3) The King of Wands (Nomad) 4) The King of Pentkals is the worst of all. Blindly go to save your life, without analyzing the consequences and without looking at yourself and your strength, intuition and advice from our friends to overcome the hopeless feeling of coming death, by accepting a mission from a government whose leader has more sins than us and he uses all his subordinates, just like us. That's my opinion. Someone else's is different. But this opinion of the author of the video is also good, in his view.

[@kalogias]

I have a theory but I need to wear my foil hat. In the King of Wands when you send So Mi to the moon, the neural matrix can fix her. But in King of Swords and King of Pentacles something stinks. What I think is that they destroy our chrome compatibility on purpose. The player is unpredictable and really powerful as shown during the quests, Myers knows that we will never be fully her lap dog like Reed. So on one hand they "heal" us but at the same time disarm us. But still the hospital ending killed me, the goodbye to Johnny, Vs lines and how everyone left us. It was unbearable.

[@tron9683]

Counterpoint for #4: You don't betray Songbird, she betrayed you.

[@antont4974]

I do like the 2nd ending, I feel like it has good character arcs and gameplay direction. Reed's convo after the events is probably the best in the whole dlc and game

[@RodgerSkelton]

King of Wands is perfect to me, Myers loses her neutered dogs.

[@killmonger5097]

She has plenty of dogs left that was just a bump in the road for her

[@RicochetForce]

Exactly. She lost a massive military asst (let's be fair, Myers does NOT see So Mi as human) and Reed (an extremely skilled agent). Fucking over Myers and Militech/NUSA is a net good.

[@Maple_Cadian]

So you sent her to Mr. Blue Eyes and potential control the moon bases mass drivers?

[@Chublogging]

№ 4 - Side with Reed and Betray Songbird and yourself purely for the sake of vague promises of Myers № 3 - Side with Songbird and let her fly away, falling into the hands of Mr. Blue Eyes and becoming a threat to the world № 2 - Side with Songbird and without hesitation betray her in spaceport, for "greater good" № 1 - Side with Songbird and let Reed listen to you and take her personally, but to refuse any contacts and "help" from NUSA Best one: Side with Reed and to learn the whole story, to be horrified by the possibilities of Songbird and hers fate. Fulfill her last wish. Send the fuck to Myers. Talk to Reed in confidence.

[@spade66]

100% agree

[@AraiiarA]

Sending Song to the moon and then choosing the Sun ending is my favorite combo. Pure Mr. Blue Eyes power moves. It's super intriguing to think what he's playing at.

[@Gamfluent]

19:39 alot of people say this but that’s wrong, songbird in that ending was too far gone because of her giving herself up to the blackwall, in the moon ending she isn’t as much of a blackwall slave

[@trollfather6692]

I’ve noticed on my 3rd playthrough of PL, there’s 2 missions (don’t recall which ones) that V states clearly that if they could give it all up, even implants, for a different life, they definitely would.

[@ThatIndianGamerGeek]

Siding with Reed and mercy killing Songbird is my favourite ending, especially playing as Corp V. Becoz, the NUSA can’t get the full power of Songbird, Reed survives and goes through a self-reflection arc, and Songbird gets “freedom”. Sending her off to the moon alive just turns her into a weapon for Mr Blue Eyes

[@indiexanna]

My first ending is King of Wands and I will stand by it as the best ending : Myers got f-ed and will no longer be able to order So Mi and Reed around, Reed unfortunately died but that's part of the consequences he has to face when you're blindly following orders from Myers, Alex got to leave NC to somewhere better for her, and So Mi got her wish granted. Mr Blue Eyes is pleased with the result. Now we don't know what does he really want but if the theory that he's a human avatar for rogue AIs, then I think it would be beneficial for us to side with him as by the end of the Cyberpunk ending V will have a lot of allies from the blackwall : - We already have Alt helping us from the Blackwall - If you decided to live on in the ending, Johnny will get absorbed by the Blackwall. There's a chance that this could affect how the Blackwall behaves towards V - Assuming So Mi did not survive the moon and ended up getting absorbed by the Blackwall anyway, there's a chance that this will also affect how the Blackwall behaves towards V - Everyone at Mikoshi will remember V as their liberator as they get absorbed by the Blackwall, there's a chance that this will also affect how the Blackwall behaves towards V And who knows whether V ended up dying after the original ending, we already saw that there's a solution that can keep V alive for as long as at least 2 years. Maybe Mr Blue eyes will offer to help V at one point as now they understand that in order to "control" Night City, the "Children of the Net" won't be enough and there has to be a human element in play.

[@SkupperNog]

I personally turned her in first chance I got. The ends do not justify the means in her case. Yeah, the circumstances she was put under and even during the dlc were pretty bad. But the amount of people she hurt, using our hope of a cure from the relic for her own survival, and willing to put the countries well-being at risk just to save her own skin is... something I don't much abide by. I stand by my decision. Screw Song.

[@isaiahdismuke1472]

Thank you! So many people are all over Song. Even outside the mission Reed genuinely cares for her and would sacrifice is foot for her but she wouldn’t mind walking over his dead body to save her life. If we are going by the main story of the game helping Song just to be betrayed and get nothing out of it wastes the time V needed to get a cure and can be seen ultimately as the reason we don’t find a solution in time. So there is that issue everyone is missing. Time is Vs most needed asset and Song burned through it all for a pile of bodies she help build.

[@kushalroy4866]

is that only me or there's others too who did not felt any connection with song bird and did not even hesitate for a second to hand her over to the nusa after learning the whole truth

[@Ranor]

you're not alone, I felt like I was being lied to for half the game and once she told us the truth I already had my doubts 😂

[@Ar_Ator]

I was playing a Corpo V and got King of Wands. The arc from unscrupulous Arasaka employee to unscrupulous merc with people he cares about to someone who willingly gives his life for someone else was amazing. Even though Songbird betrayed V I ultimately felt a lot of empathy and compassion for her

[@MerthisReal]

Considering thst in lore, the NUSA doesnt have as good of cyberware and bioware technology as europe, and even reed/takemura says "i have good contacts on europe that can help you", she going to the moon seems way nore hopeful than staying on earth to be "taken care" by Myers

[@purpledevilr7463]

I’ve actually come around to the King of Swords. In game I like the idea of fighting Night Corp. In this ending, that does that best. It also prevents more Blackwall tech leaking into the world.

[@Zayphar]

King of Cups is the best ending. You get all the experiences and the best loot, and you get to say FU to Meyers. The brain wipe/NPC ending is the worst possible ending. Going King of Cups lets you take the Don't Fear the Reaper ending, which is by far, the best ending in the game.

[@mspotato138]

"King of Pentacles at the top is a controversial choice" - Fuck yeah it is. The mission is amazing, but from a story perspective it is probably the worst. Alex is dead, Song is in a place worse than death, the politicians won and Reed does not see the flaws. And honestly, the tower ending for V is also a crazy downer. The best imo is sticking it to Meyers by either fulfilling Songs request in somewhat damaged or by flying her to the moon.

[@SaneTrinity]

19:36 in the King of Pentacles Ending, So Mi attempted that permanent connection to blackwall, so her being to far gone might be exclusive to that ending. Not to mention the way we receive implant from So Mi in King of Wands seems to suggest things went well for her.

[@joshuapatrick682]

so So Mi betrays you and uses you the whole time, doesn't bother to come clean until she's certain she's about to die, and turning her over in light of that fact makes you the bad person?

[@obiwankenobi2116]

King of Cups and King of Wands are the best endings.

[@sebastjankrek1744]

I love King of wands. Fits perfectly building a legend

[@MajesticMollusk]

Imo helping sending So Mi to the moon is the best ending overall. So Mi was the only one who could empathize with V's situation. And even though she was dishonest with V, V still gets to save her, V gets the text from her a few in-game days later. Yes, we have to kill Reed in this ending, which is a big downside, but we also get to free Alex and say "fuck you" to Myers. If we're meant to be "cyberpunks," then this ending is the most fitting to me.

[@AlexanderVRadev]

Uhhhh...... You 2 are in the same situation.... And then she pulls the whole "yeah btw i lied to you and this cant help you". Doing that shit to the player is the biggest betrail there is exactly because she is in the same situation. All the endings are once again fucked just like the main game. CDPR can't let the player win even once, even so many years later.

[@TheSolarWolf]

But you essentially let So Mi go with the ability of, not just the NUSA, but lot of people with special interest to see the world burn to track her down and abuse her again. We are talking people like Arasaka, Miltech, Mr. Blue Eyes, etc. etc. Not to mention the AIs from beyond the Blackwall still have a death grip around her. If anything that ending is probably doubled the disaster that Silverhand could have ever brought. Hell it’s probably would even rival that of Bartmoss collapsing the first Net. And let’s not forget all the people you had killed and lied too, just for some girl who had done nothing but lied and manipulated everyone to basically let a herself run off and become a highly sought after target for the rest of her life to try to get cured for herself only. Is it really that punk when you basically set the stage for farther doom down the line and we just really don’t get anything out of it?

[@SonOfHubris]

so mi simps are cucks irl

[@sebastjankrek1744]

I like this ending not necessarily because of any logical rational reason, but because it feels the best in my mind. Somi is in a similar situation as you and despite obvious deception there's a connection there. You can give her the unconditional love and backing that you yourself wish to have to get through your own situation. Surrendering Somi to the feds, even if I get cured feels like betrayal to both Somi and me. Not doing that. And if Reed is stupid enough to keep sucking the president's tittie he deserves what's coming, honestly.

[@yungtoolshed251]

To be honest I think killing SoMi and backstabbing literally everyone at the end is the best ending. It gives you the best loot, more awesome gameplay moments, and one of the coolest levels in the game being the cyanosure facility. Also SoMi is freed from the black wall AI’s trying to kill her, the NUSA trying to use her, Reed trying to “protect” her, and Hansen holding her hostage. SoMi has no ability to regain her freedom and she is also the largest threat to the existence of everyone considering the power she has and what can randomly happen to her when she loses control. Killing her is the one decision she has had the capacity to make for herself which is why I did it.

[@bhabhutiji1169]

How to get that ending?

[@23mylo60]

Getting the star ending on my first playthrough and then having it all completely ruined by the tower ending was devastating

[@rhodan74]

I am a simple man, I see an abused, out-of-control raging superweapon in the body of an asian robot and all I can say is: yes, use + betray me. Also, sending So-Mi to the moon felt like a part of me went there as well and has a new adventure. My broken self remaining in NC went on to flatten arasaka and give the body to Johnny. That way I can spam So-Mi with friend requests via the blackwall :)

[@Lokhir100]

Maybe not technically an ending, but my favorite thing to do is immediately leave the Dogtown area after getting Songbird's mission. This fails the mission. Myers plane crashes and she gets killed, Songbird gets mad at you. Johnny shows up and says that you screwed up the mission but good riddance anyways. I think it's the best outcome for V, since most of what you do in Dogtown benefits other people instead. But everybody technically lives except Myers.

[@shadowgaze]

Thats honestly awesome i didnt know that could happen

[@matthewjobin6665]

My first ending was king of pentacles, and I genuinely couldn’t parse through my feelings on it for a few days. I felt cowardice from my inability to fulfill So Mi’s final wish after what not only she had been through in the past, but what we put her through by betraying her. I felt anger at Reed, for not being able to overcome his programming and actually help So Mi. I felt disgust for Myers and her flagrant lack indifference towards So Mi’s well-being beyond needing her alive. I felt excitement getting to duel with Hansen in a really intense boss battle. I felt horror from the chimera, combined with intrigue from the Erebus blueprint I discovered and the terminals where the blackwall AI speaks about our world. And finally, I just… didn’t know how to feel about V, and I still kind of don’t. They survived, and like they said in the original games endings, they wanted to live, and they did. The life and people they knew is gone, but so many new opportunities are available to them now, maybe a calmer, more peaceful life. Still, mercwork was all V knew, and despite the circumstances through which some of them meet, people who care about them. I know a lot of people hate it, but it’s my second favorite ending after Temperance and right before the sun ending. This expansion is incredible, CDPR at their best, everything dialed up to 11.

[@sethchakoy1511]

Thanks for this video! 🔥😎

[@N0umenalReality]

Best ending? don't save the president....War criminal president - died, songbird don't need to hide from NUSA or FIA and she's free, Reed and Alex alive....

[@tonyshum5569]

her deal with hansen just meant she'll be his slave instead of the pres now, no one will save her, hansen will remain leading dogtown

[@Greyhun]

Incredible video. Thanks ;)

[@jeremiahkisimba5938]

I chose to send songbird to the moon because it is the best ending.

[@cyberius6]

For her, sure. For everyone else, including the entire human race possibly, not so much...

[@sebastjankrek1744]

Agreed. I also picked this ending. My V just respected Songbird as a kindred spirit for flying close to the sun, and for some reason, the betrayal didn't hurt that much. Seemed like the most epic ending you can have.

[@TheSolarWolf]

I feel like the ending that prevents the lunatics of the Cyberpunk world from opening the way for the Rouge AIs from taking over the world is obviously the best we can hope for. Sure we can let Songbird live and escape, but it’s like Johnny said she’s a walking nuke making too many mistakes. It just leaves Myers and Mr. Blue Eyes and the Corps and the AIs a chance to find her and abuse her. So really an ending where she is put out of her misery and be free of this constant back and forth and potentially denying those monsters from grabbing means of annihilation easily. It may not be enough to stop it, but denying the apocalypse farther is just the right thing to do. Plus we actually do give So Mi a real freedom. It may not be 100% with Johnny or V’s principles to do so, but we can’t really bog ourselves down being loyal to principles like Reed from doing what is just the right thing to do in the end. Putting an end to all of this before it spirals out more than it needs to be. So I have to say King of Cups. It just feels like the most hopeful choice even if it’s not exactly a great choice. After all, in a dystopian world, there are no good and happy endings. But hope that things can be better is better then a happy ending. So Mi is finally granted actually peace and freedom, Reed is finally awaken to the fact he was a prisoner of principle, Myers and the dystopian world is potentially denied a super weapon, and the AIs are pushed back from conquering the world another day.

[@lonely0nly]

I believe the King of Wands ending is the best because it gives liberty to everyone involved. For Alex, she gets a deserved retirement and leaves everything behind V and SoMi... They are basically the same person: both poked the wrong nest, and now trying to fix their lives. Giving her freedom is not 100% will give her chance to live, but still much higher in other endings: even if FIA finds a way to place her on feets again, I am certain that she will give up her life, sooner or later, considering how desperate she was to cure herself. Reed is a meat puppet of FIA, controlled by Myers. He is nothing but a tool. Killing him may sound weird, but it's a way to give him freedom from the puppeteer and his past. V is similar to Reed, he becomes free. Yes, he doesn't get anything from that, but maybe it is for the best. Besides, other ending showed that CURE without Mikoshi exists, which gives hope for V in Aldecaldos ending, that they will find a way.

[@pjc6387]

Phantom liberty is just great, cdprojeckt really nailed it. Would have loved to see you include the secret ending where you walk away after accepting the first mission even if it entails not playing through the dlc which i dont recomen but still really nice vid!!

[@codemasterz6074]

I find it very puzzling how people think that we betray So'Mi if we eventually leave her to Reed, as we were the ones that we were played all along. From a neutral standpoint the shit So'Mi was in was caused by her alone, she was used to making a mess out of things and getting saved by some fool. As much as I liked her, she played V from the start, she wanted to get away from NUSA, from Hansen, and ultimately use the neural matrix to heal herself. V was simply a pawn that helped her reach her goals. She played it nice, sentimental, manipulated V (albeit maybe not in a sociopathic manner) in order to get herself out of the mess she caused. While I really did not want to let her go to Reed, I also was left with rather a simple choice, after being betrayed by her. There is no V betraying So'Mi, there is only V correcting his choices last minute when he finds out he has been played all along. His choices and promises were based off of lies and intentional misdirection. Backtracking once you know the truth is not betrayal. Good DLC nonetheless, still not as good as Knights of Touissant.

[@JP_DEL_POZZO_]

I'm in a really tough dilemma with this endings and the OG game's ones... I just finished the DLC and got the last ending (22:35) and to be fair... it's good. But, I can't even begin to describe how bad I feel for EVERYONE. Vik is serving Zetatech, Reed is stuck as a Goverment's office paperholder, Panam is broken 💔, Johnny is gone forever, and V is... He died before the coma, there is just a shadow. My OG ending was the secret ending of the base game. So I reflected. Is it better to live? To keep moving forward until the body gives up? To live a life thinking "could I have done things any better?" Or on the other hand... to go out with a bang, living by your own rules, even if it's brief? To die your own way and be remembered as a legend? Maybe, just maybe, going down while at your prime is better than to live to see the ending of all.

[@UndyingZombie]

Honestly the So Mi thing.. Kind of got to me.. I very much know what its like to be at the point that you are begging for death. So I was extremely torn by this Just a fyi, the only reason why I am still alive now is due to me surviving things that I honestly should not have, and I finally found a slightly better life. Still have to deal with a lot of physical pain and I have PTSD from the things I have been through.. But overall I am in a better situation than I used to be... I admit sometimes I find myself still wishing that my body did not continue to survive.. But like I said. At least I am no longer in the situation I used to be.

[@Medabg88]

Idk, from my perspective and how i played, phantom liberty new overall ending doesnt make much sence, so in hindsight its either wands or cups, since its kinda natural to finish the game with tower ending if you go with the other 2 paths. And i like cups more of those 2. Out of all 4, only one that makes little sence is swords, everything else works fine tbh. But players should definitely try out pretty much all since this is one finely crafted piece of content. Great video mate and also great comment section, its so good seeing people all around the place with choices and arguments, which means cdpr did stellar job with this one👌

[@happyninja42]

I actually never did any of the endings other than the one where you rescue SoMi and send her to the Moon. I found myself just completely uninspired to play through the others, knowing how they end. Plus, given how when you are talking to Reed leading up to The Choice, he says repeatedly that he would do anything to get SoMi out of the situation she is in. Well...I took him at his word, and decided I wouldn't let his misguided loyalty to a political bitch, ruin his efforts to save the girl he helped to destroy....even if that means he has to die to do it.

[@RicochetForce]

Yeah, Reed is too much of a useful idiot for Myers. One of the easiest ways to manipulate people is by playing to their ego of being a good person. "You're a good person, I know you won't let anything happen to So Mi. If you get her we can take care of her."

[@anosvoldigoat3351]

Yeah reed is like takemura. Loyal to fault

[@RicochetForce]

@@anosvoldigoat3351 Exactly!

[@johnweaver311]

I thought that the Things Done Changed ending was unfair in the way it was written. To get there in the first place, you have to "betray" So Mi either by siding with Reed, leading to the confrontation in Cynosure and deciding to not kill her, which is written to be "bad," or by giving her up to Reed at the spaceport, which is also "bad." So, in order to get to TDC, you have to go with the two bad options. Then there's the whole energy behind TDC. The central plot of the game is V trying to find a way to live since the Relic is killing them, and TDC presents that way. The Relic is removed, V lives, but Johnny is destroyed and V loses all of their friends. Viktor, River, Kerry, Panam, Judy, and Misty have all gone their own ways, and V is left as a powerless nobody since the procedure broke her nervous system so much that she can't handle combat implants. I don't like how the whole plot behind the game is for V to live, and when V has that option, it's the one that takes everything away from them. Further, the notion that V has "fallen" doesn't make sense in a world like Cyberpunk. With all of that advanced technology, surely there are ways for V to still be a legendary merc. Hell, they already have expert knowledge of so many different types of guns, grenades, and blades, all things that function outside of cyberware. Further, exosuits have got to exist, or at least something like a netrunner suit that boosts bodily strength as opposed to helping with netrunning. Even further, how hard could it be to craft a biomask reminiscent of the Predator that does everything Kiroshi implants do, and then have the mask tied to a wrist computer that V can upload her quickhacks from? Between exosuits, various weapons, and some imagination, it's not at all fair to V that their life would end just because their body can't handle major implants anymore. It's also not fair that V going with the only surefire way of saving their life from the Relic is also the way that costs them their friends and reputation. That's just me, though. I think V could still be as great a merc as they were before, maybe even better, without implants, and the whole principle of the ending is dumb.

[@yokoyakamori6589]

I actually like how the Tower ending handled the ending of V’s story. The price V pays for wanting to survive is costly, no matter what path you choose. I also see this ending as being scary because V’s life as a merc is over, but also hopeful.

[@insertname6057]

Sending Songbird to the Moon is the best ending for me as in this one Alex survives and even gets her dream retirement which made me so happy as Alex is the character I sympathized with the most in Phantom Liberty. Songbird gets to escape NUSA's grip which is also great, of course she will be used by Mr B but she might still get a chance at life as we know that Mr B prefers subtle methods of control. At least we gave her a chance and that's what counts for me. She went through so much shit that she deserved a chance plus V knows how Songbird feels and has compassion for her, at least in the way I played the character. Reed gets the best ending here imo as otherwise he will never be able to get away from NUSA, serving them even when the ideals he signed up for and fought for were shattered and meant nothing to him anymore. If Reed lives, he also has to endure guilt for what he did to Songbird for the rest of his life, from the time he forcibly recruited her to either her death or eternal servitude to NUSA. So I believe that death is unfortunately the only escape from this for Reed. Other endings are really interesting as well but for me this one has the best possible paths the main characters can take. That includes V as they don't get the cure(staying in coma for two years is horrible for them btw) and get to have a nice heart to heart with Johnny about his choices compared to Songbird's.

[@The10.000HourTheory]

Idk if this has been noticed already but in my opinion it’s a kinda sad but legendary detail! In the CGI trailer we see a display of how Reed gets betrayed by Songbird and gets finished off with 3 bullets. If you come at the confrontation with him at the launch pad (where by then he is betrayed by this time V). You can only shoot him maximum 3x before they cancel you out of pulling the trigger more and get animations of him getting hit 3x… crazy

[@DolchiStudio]

I really wish cyberpunk 2077 had one happy ending instead of "you get to live, but..." for every outcome.

[@robertkelly8191]

For that reason I like it, shows no matter what you do Night City will swallow you alive no matter what you do, the city always wins. The feeling of hopelessness is repeated throughout the game

[@DolchiStudio]

@@robertkelly8191 yeah but that takes out the replayability. if the game basically says that no matter what I do, I'm just gonna have a bad ending, why would I play the game again knowing that basically nothing is gonna change?

[@robertkelly8191]

@@DolchiStudio just depends if you just play it to change an ending. For me I replay as different “roles” Like a netrunner build, cyberpsycho, gung-ho, stealth e.t.c Sometimes I roleplay as the “good guy” making morally good decisions, or a cutthroat merc killing everyone in my way. The decisions you make affect characters and relationships. Even changes how you continue to the next set of gigs. It’s just like life, you can’t change the inevitable, death always comes for you, but you can change how you affect others based on your decisions. Just like edgerunners, the good guy doesn’t always win. Also I think the “you get to live, but…” is a great opportunity to set up the next DLC or future game. How can they continue to build on V if everything is sunshine and rainbows?

[@DolchiStudio]

@@robertkelly8191 certainly but as a single player game, I really think there should be a wide variety of endings if multiple ending and dialogue choice is a big part. look at witcher 3, it has the worst ending where ciri dies and geralt kills himself, then there is bad ending where only ciri dies, then there is a good ending where ciri becomes the empress and the best ending where ciri becomes a witcher and travels with geralt. only 4 endings yet still is far more than what cyberpunk offers.

[@Jordinho99]

From worst to best I'd go: Pentacles, Swords, Wands, Cups. I think it's the worst possible outcome for So Mi to be handed back to Myers, the one who doomed her in the first place by pushing her to exploit the Blackwall, which is stupidly dangerous in itself as any breach in the wall is an existential threat to humanity, so the FIA can't be trusted with such a weapon IMO especially as Myers is implied to prefer another corporate war (even though the last one almost wiped everyone out) to letting the knowledge of her Blackwall exploitation become common knowledge and taking the fall for it herself. I also think that Reed as deluded as he is doesn't deserve to die as he only had the best intentions for So Mi, even after she almost got him killed, and even says he would help cure her escape Myers and get help for her condition until she either goes cyberpsycho or escapes with V in Firestarter. So, Cups seems like the best ending as So Mi seems doomed regardless and Reed sort of breaks out of his mental block of not being able to see the FIA as wrong in any way.

[@keyycee5547]

I think the ending where V is betraying Songbird and being healed isn't so bad. Especially when you consider that Songbird wanted to betray him and was never willing or able to heal him. ​ isn't as bad as everyone says. If V is a little more realistic and down-to-earth and looks at everything objectively, he still has good times ahead of him. He has Reed, even if the relationship is based on feelings of guilt on Reed's part. Yes, Reed isn't exactly there for him, but through him he has a job offer with the FBI. He also has an office job where he can hit the ground running as a “normal” person and secure his pension. He can meet new people there, perhaps a little less devious people than on the street. get to know another woman, settle down somewhere, etc. Screw Night City and this street life. V has to grow up and take advantage of his past. Not only does he have good and terrible memories, he has experience. He is extremely knowledgeable about technology, hardware, cyber-tech hacking, strategic thinking, etc. He's a little legend, he can put his name on a drink. He took Arasaka apart on his own, worked with the greatest personalities and interacted. Killed legends, saved the president, etc. I think if V would stop seeing everything so negatively, he still has a good life ahead of him. Yes, not the life that was placed in his lap (criminal) but in my opinion even better. He was betrayed, he suffered losses, but he can build a lot for himself. What happens to his life now would be interesting to see. It can be really good if he also gets psychological help

[@jakeschwartz2514]

V isnt a real person, just letting you know to stay in reality. He also killed so many people either way.. maybe he just needs a therapist lol The best ending is to self delete in the end. It proves Night City is an abyss and makes the most sense V never displays even a bit of resistance to constantly fighting for his survival. His determination is down right anime in scale. But, a real person wouldnt go to such lengths especially without second thoughts.

[@IPH-1212]

@@jakeschwartz2514 the best ending is subjective. Every person who plays this game has a different personality, perspective, life experiences, and morals and thus will react differently to the characters and choices presented.

[@IPH-1212]

agreed- perfectly said my pick too

[@Yacovo]

Thanks for the video

[@Mr_Welch]

Songbird telling us she betrayed us at the last minute makes me turn her over to Reed without regrets.