All The Ways Baseball Players Cheat, An Expert Explains - Cheddar Explains

[@joeygenna4801]

It’s insane that’s someone’s vision is so good that from 2nd base they can see some guy move his fingers at home base

[@winterburden]

I used to think that would be impossible, but then I got glasses and the world is a different place 😲

[@andrewbenbow9257]

As an android with contact lenses crafted by optimized optical apparati developed by the air force for pilots, I just gotta ask... how many fingers is that ant holding up?

[@LarryHow]

Baseball players have a high proportion of folks with 20/10 vision. They have to to be able to see what kind of pitch is coming because the only have the 12inches from pitchers hand to the ball being thrown to react. Or something like that

[@TheGbelcher]

It’s not hard to see from 2nd base. In fact, when I played I could see the signs from centerfield.

[@TheGbelcher]

@@LarryHow It’s true. When I turned 40 I could tell my eyes were getting worse. I got my eyes checked and still have better than 20/20 and feel like I can’t see anymore. You don’t last long as a hitter if you can see. 😂

[@jimmyyu2184]

"That's not foreign substance, it's made right here in U.S. of A"

[@Heather420]

I'd love to see more videos like this. I'm not even into sports but seeing techniques they come up to cheat is really interesting

[@MamaWheelz]

I'm just waiting for sign stealing to evolve to remote controlled vibrating butt plugs being a method to signal where no one's gonna wanna check.

[@stansman5461]

Until someone remote hacks the plug and you've got your player orgasming in the middle of the field.

[@stynkanator]

There is nothing more American than a sport where cheating is allowed.

[@wartty]

Well technically it's not cheating until it isn't allowed ;)

[@thomy1955]

@@wartty It wasn't allowed the whole time. It's that the umps just now started to actually check the pitchers out.

[@matthewdaub]

I think you mean Russia.

[@jackgerberuae]

Except the Tour de France. It will be crazy to attempt that race without Mother’s little Helpers.

[@mitchellknox8094]

Why is that American?

[@zunaidparker]

Cricket has similar issues with ball tampering, fielders using sandpaper or grit to scuff up the ball or Vaseline to shine it up. The Australian national team had a huge scandal few years ago when some of their players were caught on camera on live TV. 3 players including the national team captain got banned for 6-12 months

[@cheddar]

Whoa!

[@ryzvonusef]

@@cheddar unlike baseball, the cricket ball bounces on the pitch once before going to the batsman. Also, unlike baseball, the balls are constantly reused, you get like a couple of balls you have to use in one game, shared by both sides, and if it goes into the stand, it has to be retrieved, fans cannot keep it, if the ball cannot be found, umpires keep a stock of "similarly scuffed" balls to keep things fair as the day goes on, the new balls gets rougher and rougher, so it's characteristics change over the day, and affects playing strategy playing by affecting the ball surface you can greatly affect the spin of the ball as it strikes the ground, so ballers would be doing weird things from growing their fingernails longer to scuff the ball, to sucking on lozenges to thicken their saliva to shine the ball (the second component, the playing pitch surface, creates further issues, but that's a whole different can of worms)

[@kuiper921]

Finally a cricket comment that isn’t like hurr durr my sport better. Really interesting that both sports have these incidents

[@zunaidparker]

@@kuiper921 hurr durr cricket is better 😜 Anyway, I found a semi decent link to a short (3 min) explainer video about the incident and the fallout. Even the Prime Minister weighed in kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHSpeWOgl5l2ZpY

[@zunaidparker]

Watch this video from 23:11. It's a recap of the whole South Africa-Australia series but at this time in the video is a fantastic segment about the ball tampering scandal and how it all blew up: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g3zGp3t3mshpfa8

[@rufioh]

Sign sealing doesn’t sound like it should be considered cheating

[@vesk4000]

Yeah, to me it sounds a bit like counting cards in blackjack. It's just using your brain, and banning it feels a bit like a thought police, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. If you are that worried about someone stealing your signs, just use better, more cryptic ones, and change them up, even through the course of a game.

[@FatherChuckleNuts]

I think the biggest part is you can't have outside help of you're doing it. Only the players on the field can help steal signs

[@joshuaphillips755]

I'll come back and comment fr when my eyebrows return to their normal position.

[@rogaineablar5608]

He says it's completely legal at 4:34.

[@judyreyjumamoy]

its not cheating if you intercept it yourself but when someone is feeding you information like in this case a buzzer (still a speculation) its a different story

[@music_by_carlos]

3:17 ah back when baseball players did coke and just sprinted up to the ump hahahahahhaha

[@JenniferSteil28]

Coke and steroids…I miss baseball of the 80’s/early 90’s (essentially, anything before the strike).

[@GarettMac]

Baseball is such a simple sport with so many complexities

[@darealberrygarcia]

Not really

[@jeremyanimatespoorly9573]

lol what? Yes, really. Hit the ball, run the bases, don't get 3 outs. Simple concept. Pitch types, signaling, foul balls, what constitutes a strike vs a ball, bunting, stealing bases, having to be tagged out, loose rules about what constitutes cheating, etc. Many complexities.

[@zachhomolka8512]

Amazing to see those old clips where the batters weren’t wearing helmets. Maybe because a professional could throw a fastball about as fast as high schoolers can now. Still cool to see though

[@MineralGPK]

They threw fastballs in the 85 90 range around the turn of the century. I dont know who reached 95 100 first or when

[@ChristopherNFP]

At 6:57 "You don't hear about corked bats much anymore". No, because Mythbusters disproved the claim 15 ago (or longer).

[@David-xn9mu]

LET THEM CHEAT, i want american super soldiers playing the game with all the advanced tech we can produce

[@almahnak12]

just let some dude chug a gallon of steroids and see how far a player can *REALLY* throw a ball

[@stansman5461]

@@almahnak12 agreed. Baseball is supposed to be pushing humans to their limit. Drugs are a part of our creation. Let people who know the risk, use them

[@meredithwhite5790]

They can have a natty and enhanced league. But we all know the enhanced league would be way more fun to watch.

[@kirkmorrison6131]

The Mythbusters proved cork bats don't work

[@nighttrain5006]

This game is boring af AND they're cheating?!

[@Astral_Drago]

No shit it’s legal to steal signs, if you can see the sign and convey it to your teammate that is all skill, therefore not cheating.

[@almahnak12]

If your using a machine to find it out for you thats not skill and it shouldn't be allowed at least in my optinion

[@Chakawatever]

Learning about cheating now in a sport I played for years and years. I guess I was lucky, i was so oblivious. Looking back I probably would have loved to use pine tar as a pitcher

[@jasons5916]

Anyone with eyes knew McGuire was using steroids. If you see a picture of him in the 80s vs the 90s, 90s McGuire is twice the size of 80s McGuire and it's all muscle. There were also a lot of pitchers using them (Clemens) for faster recovery time. That was less obvious because people thought steroids were only for bulking up, which wouldn't really be useful for a pitcher, but they are used for the same reason in horses all the time.

[@sphakamisozondi]

Rule #1 *When you cheat in Baseball. Don't make it obvious!*

[@Bards.98]

If there's rules, there's cheaters

[@almahnak12]

it do be like that sometimes

[@DerUbermonke]

i cant get over how one of the narrators sounds like ben shapiro

[@NoJusticeNoPeace]

"I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense." -- H.L. Mencken

[@okonh0wp]

This is a great channel

[@kamilfalkiewicz6495]

Dude sounds like Bench Appearo

[@hebbe7336]

Do you mean Ben Shapiro?

[@JohnSmith-nh2te]

@@hebbe7336 no, Bench Appearo

[@beactivebehappy9894]

7:37 Sammy Sosa is wearing cheddar KZbin logo on his head

[@virn143]

I still don't understand why sigh stealing is called cheating.

[@VikingTeddy]

It must be salty fans. Some baseball fans are *insane*. So what if someone is using a buzzer? Having spies outside the field is just another level of the game, no one is getting hurt. If your signs can be broken you have crappy cryptographers. A 1 to 1 cipher is beyond idiotic and deserves to be stolen.

[@almahnak12]

@@VikingTeddy Sign stealing does sound like it should be part of the game, its skill. But I dont think that using machines to find out what means what should be allowed. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hp7Pg5WciMapmKs

[@daleftuprightatsoldierfield]

Sign stealing itself is not, but you aren’t allowed to use external sources, such as technology, to do it

[@32srt32]

whenever you have competition you have people that want an edge especially when their are millions of dollars involved

[@lambdalambdalambdaa]

I'm still trying to figure out how it wasn't blatantly obvious players were on steroids in the late 90's when you see how huge Mark McGwire and others were.

[@ComradeCorvus]

4:40 When the baseball is sus😳

[@Empy_C.]

5:55

[@graham1034]

Sign stealing should be legal. If they want to prevent teams from using tech to do it then they'll need to ban all electronics from the field. Even then they could have someone in the stands. This is only going to get easier as cameras, image detection, machine learning, etc all continue to improve.

[@walterw8223]

"I never realized how boring this game is" -_Homer Simpson - Duffless_

[@AntoniWiechec]

Why are people so serious about baseball, people harm others because of it

[@massimookissed1023]

Imagine taking baseball so seriously that you'd cheat.

[@almahnak12]

ball hit bat go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[@adrianrodriguez2964]

i’m cool with sign stealing as long as it’s done internally and on the field, baseball is a strategy game and it just makes it more cerebral to decipher the other team

[@laurenconrad1799]

The thumbnail made it look like a seriously infected cut on his neck. lol

[@jpcost]

In defense of Chris Sabo it may have been a case of wrong bat at the wrong time. He broke his original bat and then was given the corked bat, he even suspected the bat was going to break, but stuck with it instead of calling for a new one. Anyone who was cheating intentionally wouldn’t have taken any chance on breaking a corked bat.

[@FinancialShinanigan]

Think a few used Ashley Madison too.

[@cassandranugent2443]

Increasing bat speed while losing mass would be beneficial, but compromising the structural integrity of the bat makes corking disadvantageous

[@nicholasschroeder3678]

I kept wondering: why not just use a lighter bat?🤷‍♂️

[@cassandranugent2443]

@@nicholasschroeder3678 bc it’s gotta be a solid one piece wood bat, which means that the density of the wood determines the weight

[@nicholasschroeder3678]

@@cassandranugent2443 Yeah, I understand that. What I meant is just use a lighter, solid bat instead of hollowing out a larger one--which seems obviously foolish to me. I guess the larger bat would have greater surface area for contact, but I'd think that would negligible. It's a balancing act between speed and mass: there's some ideal Goldie Locks bat for every player I suppose. For myself, I can't imagine feeling confident with a bat that had a compromised structure. But then I'm not a professional looking for any little edge. I despise cheating in sports, but I get it too--the pressure to cut corners must be tremendous. I'm not as bothered by the athletes who cheat as the fans who seem indifferent to it. They don't really have a concept of sport as sporting. They just want a spectacle.🤷‍♂️

[@nicholasschroeder3678]

Btw, losing mass while gaining bat speed is not necessarily beneficial. Both mass and velocity contribute to momentum, which is going to compress that ball and make it fly far. Ideally, a very strong player should use the heaviest bat he can still quickly whip through the strike zone.

[@cassandranugent2443]

@@nicholasschroeder3678 yes, however velocity is a much greater factor, as increasing impulse, or change in momentum, is the goal.

[@tylercafe1260]

Corked bats sound like some myth a batter came up with which damaged his bat which is why they banned it. You're just ruining the bat plus altering the effects of the game. (Underperforming/Overperforming)

[@pthithic]

This little boy has a future as a sportscaster once his voice changes!

[@jacubotheguy1642]

Sign stealing from 2nd base is not cheating, using any form of technology is cheating, and if you disagree you most likely do not pitch

[@collins_channel8643]

this is cheddar's best fucking video no joke

[@dsimpson530]

Is there a rule that doesn't allow the fielding team to wear gloves? Modern gloves are practically like a fly trap how sticky they are. This is legal in the NFL yet stickem is banned for example. Batters can wear gloves but can fielders including a pitcher?

[@jessewunder7187]

No mention of stimulants?!?

[@leroy2576]

I lost faith in baseball along time ago. No longer a fan, but interested in how they cheat at the sport.

[@ryanh3635]

"America's Past time" is the most boring sport in the world. Curling has more excitement.

[@theFLCLguy]

I think they need to get rid of home runs and have each base be a point with home being 2 points.

[@srpskihayk]

Trying to eliminate cheating from baseball is like trying to eliminate doping in cycling or the olympics. It is a noble aim, but in the end cheaters gonna cheat. They will find a way.

[@mats7492]

„HES STEAMING MAD“… good ole pine tar incident

[@construct8295]

sign stealing isn’t cheating, it’s outplaying your opponent. The line is crossed when you use external options to steal signs. if a player can figure out an opponents signs that’s fine. If you use cameras, buzzers, and trash cans to steal signs, then that’s 100% cheating

[@cheifcrazybuffalo8390]

Love how the media picks and chooses what stories to put focus on to avoid everyone looking the other party that just as guilty. So how are the Astros cheaters when all 30 teams did and are still doing the exact same thing

[@NeonNijahn]

The only thing bringing this boring ass game any excitement apparently... can't wait for the year when Futurama finally jazzes it up.

[@ethansloan]

my thoughts exactly. BLLUUURRRRRRNNNNN!!!!!!!

[@alexandrasvulfgang1205]

i cant imagine how much more boring baseball would be if everyone were playing straight.

[@teethgrinder83]

There's a really good (and funny I thought) documentary on Netflix called Screwball that's worth watching-i have no interest in baseball at all, don't even know how it's played but this is about one of the biggest doping scandals and the "Dr" who supplied the steroids. The guys slimy as hell but he can tell a good story lol

[@Coltwollsch]

Is that the one that had the little kids in it?

[@teethgrinder83]

@@Coltwollsch lol yeah-beards and everything 😂

[@intensivecareunitpee5838]

ah, dream's favorite sport

[@whtbobwntsbobget]

The ultimate cheat is bribing the guy who controls the scoreboard

[@morsecodereviews1553]

Sports are boring 😴 let cheating be allowed, that'll spice things up😁

[@fitmotheyap]

Agreed,some people even want tonsee how far people can do with all the bad stuff

[@irishkelly2062]

If you're not cheating, you're not trying.

[@EM2theBee]

Good God, even the cheating is boring in baseball.

[@mlovecraftr]

Anyone remembers that one episode of Bob's Burgers?

[@rickaguilar1833]

But if your cheating, then you have an unfair advantage and really not playing the real game and you are not a winner!

[@BronxLockPicker60Rodriguez]

Players today do not need corked bats, cause they are using steroids .

[@eee2861]

Sports... what can I say. It's stupid on all levels. If you have a deep connection to sports or a sport - remember, you can do better.

[@ParamoreFAV3]

There shouldn’t be any unwritten rules of subtly if they’re not supposed to cheat at all lmao

[@picklecandy2507]

If Jesus says its not cheating its not cheating.

[@bri1085]

Base ball isn't even a real sport

[@lelonfurr1200]

HARRIS in major league criso,bardahl vagicel or if umpires watching jolepenojuice in nose

[@thinkublu]

wait, why is sign stealing against the rules?

[@jeremywj]

Generally it is not against the rules. The Astros however were using cameras (proven) to steal the signs and possibly, at times, relaying these through buzzer systems (not proven). However, old fashion sign stealing is 100% okay in MLB.

[@thinkublu]

@@jeremywj ahh that makes sense

[@jokotri2186]

Why would they use doping, I mean it's not an intensive sports as football, American football, tennis, triathlon, basketball. Why? You just try to hit a ball a few times and run if you hit the ball then you sit in the dugout for a while until your turn again. Why doping?

[@mrentity2210]

Why did you go on so long about sign-stealing in a cheating when you also specifically said it wasn't against the rules?

[@meredithwhite5790]

I want to see a sport just embrace all the different tools at their disposal to enhance performance. They can have a natural league and an enhanced league. I don't see anything wrong with PEDs or other performance enhancing tools as long as it is acknowledged as apart of the game. It is only problematic when they are breaking the rules to gain an advantage over others.

[@M_tch311]

How American, "cheating is part of the game, don't let it taint it". Ah yes, don't try to conceive of ways to mitigate the problems, just learn to live with them.

[@pXnTilde]

"Chances are there could be" wat

[@mtmadigan82]

If your not cheating your not trying....

[@dadsonworldwide3238]

Its new to condition players or people in America mid season or amid crisis

[@sinisterpuddle6655]

cheating makes the game more interesting

[@ChesuMori]

"If you were alive in September 1998 you were probably watching"... dude's delusional. Not everyone shares your weird niche hobby. In September 1998 I, like MOST normal people, was reading and re-reading video game magazines covering the upcoming Ocarina of Time.

[@gilbert2720]

“Dudes delusional. Not everyone shares your niche hobby” …. “I, like MOST normal people, was enjoying my favorite niche hobby” Lmao. You can’t manufacture irony this good

[@Iog0ut]

sign stealing isnt cheating.

[@PyFagoras69]

If ur not cheatin ur not tryin

[@SevenDeMagnus]

Not cool to be a cheater.

[@lelonfurr1200]

if you get away with it, well good job of deception

[@Chepecafeteria]

Why do they cheat? Baseball is so boring to watch either way!

[@BeanDar]

They should just let everyone cheat. Then it’d be an even playing field lol

[@Brian_rock_railfan]

liked video

[@em1osmurf]

cheating. i quit watching 50 years ago.

[@LeslieDugger]

Asstros

[@brendanxavier6485]

Other than US who else plays the game

[@Dayvit78]

Sounds kinda like Mo Rocca.

[@almyman]

Baseball was better on steriods

[@LeslieDugger]

Use a little hair grease

[@patrickbasedman8532]

I thought they cheated by using aimbot or a remote controlled balled:0

[@almahnak12]

I want to see a baseball game with aimbot

[@darealberrygarcia]

Such a lame sport

[@JJ-si4qh]

The voice of the Cheddar host is annoying and sounds like his nose is clogged

[@bigninja27]

What's with the Ben Shapiro sounding voice over?

[@futureoffallout0222]

4:36 ˢ ᵘ ˢ

[@sjlarue1]

Looks like Andy is a Dr... Puppet Whovian. :-D

[@makatron]

Cheastros

[@music_by_carlos]

baseball is the worst sport ever lmao and we should stop playing it. cricket is much more entertaining

[@alpacamale2909]

dying sport

[@DrPepperone]

Lmao. What a stupid sport.

[@leonhardpauli5815]

Who watches baseball?! Even football (soccer) is more interesting 🤦‍♂️