Why The NFL Hasn’t Won Over Europe… Yet - Cheddar Explains

[@guillaumeshearmur656]

We already have a game in Britain where nothing happens most of the time, it's called cricket.

[@cheddar]

😂

[@abbofun9022]

and to be honest it is more exciting than AF

[@EverettBurger]

Twenty20 is very television friendly

[@InnuendoXP]

It's basically "what if hurling, but played at the pace of golf with a queueing system?"

[@vedantbhosle5508]

Wait untill cricket fans from Indian subcontinent come.

[@hobbesfield1082]

ah yes, naming a european league "National Football League: Europa". a name that definitelly makes infinite sense. after all, we don't already have any national football leagues, and europe *is* a single nation /s

[@InnuendoXP]

Americans call football "soccer" yet refuse to name their sport "Gridiron" for the local target market.

[@thishandleisalreadytaken132]

Just like calling this football when you don't play it with either feet or balls

[@Ass_of_Amalek]

well HOW ARE AMERICANS SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT?!

[@Zones33]

@@InnuendoXP so do Australians and Canadians

[@benwalter4842]

“American football” should be called gridiron; while “association football” should be called football. Of course most Americans don’t want to change the name of their favourite sport, despite it making sense. Then again, most Americans don’t want to switch to the metric system or day-month-year system; despite them being used almost everywhere else. Also most Americans don’t care about their health and the climate (or each other). Americans think their infrastructure is “good enough” (it’s not). Most Americans love military grade guns; despite them being used to kill thousands of people throughout the country. Most Americans don’t use words that make sense (such as washroom, motorway, crisps, electric torch, mate, holiday, or queue etc). I know this because I live the US unfortunately.

[@MK--]

“General managers realised that in order to make the game more attractive, they had to bring a little slice of American life to Europe”. Such American ‘logic’; Europeans aren’t getting excited so let’s make it more American? Localise your offering, listen to locals instead of telling them what they should like.

[@1NavyLT]

Good idea, Mitch.

[@haykikos]

colonialism

[@slurpii4669]

That works for movies but not for sports

[@faultier1158]

Well, something like that certainly helps to draw attention. People *were* interested in the cultural stuff, but like that guy in the video said: that did not make them care about the game.😅

[@attackdoughnut]

You can't call this thing "American Football" and then wonder why it doesn't work in Europe... lol But honestly, I think it has to do with the different pace of these games.

[@Ass_of_Amalek]

of course they called it american football, because if they called it football, every single european would argue that that's not football, it's handegg.

[@joermnyc]

@@Ass_of_Amalek Well, “Soccer” somehow comes from Association Football, but it’s definitely not the same as NFL Football.

[@rabbi4skin666]

It's technically called gridiron football since it's played on a gridiron, why not go with that name? I have not the slightest clue

[@Raddon]

You hit it on the spot, it seriously lacks the pace needed for European audiences. You will watch an NFL game for 2 hours and there are barely 2 interesting moments in the whole game.

[@agme8045]

Tbh American football is more like american rugby

[@InnuendoXP]

Ads, Americentricism, lots of uneventful downtime. Between Football/Soccer & Rugby, Europe has no need whatsoever for NFL.

[@zzXertz]

I'm probably more blind to it since I'm an American, but what american centered things are you referring to?

[@InnuendoXP]

@@zzXertz well for a start, continuing to call it NFL outside the United States. "National" - but it's in a different region trying to be across multiple countries "Football" - already an established term outside America for a different sport with an immense dominance of the market for competitive sports. Along with what seems to be a presumption that there's any interest in the sport or anyone who plays it without developing any kind of local presence that's not just an American import venture throwing its cash around.

[@KRYMauL]

Say it right the full name is Association "Soccer" Football and Rugby Football. American Football was created in the '30s and derived from a violent form of Rugby before Rugby was officially called Rugby instead being called Football. American Football is a slowed down version of Rugby because the form of Rugby that was being created was getting too violent.

[@Ryan-cb1ei]

@@InnuendoXP It’s a smart move to call it NFL in Europe. Yeah the N stands for national, but everyone instantly knows what you’re talking about when you say “NFL.” There’s a big name association there, and they’re better off keeping it if they want American football to have any traction in Europe.

[@Ryan-cb1ei]

Which is precisely why I think Europeans would like baseball. It has almost none of that besides the “American” traditions that come with baseball, but most of it is more fun than anything. Still, I’m just talking about the MLB. There’s plenty of other baseball leagues in the world that follow their own traditions and do their own things. So as long as it isn’t a cash grab by the MLB (by far the biggest league) and they cater it to Europeans, I think they’d like it. I also think they’d appreciate the sport since it’s more of a thinking game, you generally need to be smart to be a good player, but you still definitely need athleticism, no doubt.

[@FinancialShinanigan]

They already have rugby and actual football.

[@lars_huson]

...and both are WAY more entertaining to watch. If there's any "american" sport that may work in Europe, it's basketball, which (at least in the Netherlands) is already kinda big.

[@Megamean09]

No, they don't have "actual" football. They have this really stupid and boring thing called "soccer", though ;)

[@potto1488]

@@Megamean09 ok handegg player

[@kaichen04]

@@Megamean09 Football predates whatever people play in America. It's the most popular sport in the world.

[@Racko.]

Basketball and Soccer (Football) are best sports!

[@zedeighty]

We already have two similar games (Rugby Union and Rugby League) and neither game is anywhere near as popular as football. Face it, American Football has no chance of being anything but a novelty to Europeans.

[@KRYMauL]

You do know the US has Rugby League, too right?

[@bri1085]

@@KRYMauL let's be honest, only Australians care that much about rugby league.

[@nuclearbeaver96]

@@bri1085 idk, some people in the North of England would disagree wholeheartedly

[@beatrix1120]

@@bri1085 also very popular in oceania

[@fordastreeets8019]

@@KRYMauL America is predominantly American football culture compared to rugby

[@iblackfeathers]

about 5 to 15 seconds of play. stop for 1 to 5 minutes to set up. repeat for the remaining allotted time. the clock is stopped frequently. this is like a race car stopping every quarter mile or 0.4 km to check the car before continuing further. stop and go. stop and go. it loses your immersion and eventually attention. edit: this goes on forever and they play ads one after the other.

[@Ass_of_Amalek]

well in america the way they do car racing is to drive around a circular track for like a whole day.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

@@Ass_of_Amalek Probably more thrilling for them cause to go on vacation they'll drive their car four or five days to get anywhere it's actually fun to stay ;)

[@86samsky]

Here to acknowledge the little metric dig. Bravo sir bravo

[@benarchie6024]

1 to 5 minutes? lol wtf are you watching

[@georgefeldman5647]

@@benarchie6024 fr even timeouts are 30 seconds to 2 minutes, and the standard playclock is 40 seconds, although there are calls to shorten it to 25-30 seconds. And half time is just as long in both types of football (about 15 minutes).

[@JasieK0]

Sports club are not the same thing in Europe as in NA. History, local devoted fans and rivalries are what makes a club in old continent. Just look at how much hate PSG or Lipsk are getting . Although that is changing now as well, albeit slowly. Still, You can’t just show up with new sports, clubs that are basically brands created to sell jerseys and assume you’ll earn millions. While the money spent in football (or soccer for NA) is ridiculous, sport is not as commercialized over there

[@charliemilroy6497]

How disrespectful and out of touch must they be to launch a league called nfl Europe. Which nation of Europe is the nfl from? Americans have a terrible sports culture, they don't understand that they are part of the community and history not franchises. The clubs are at least emotionally owned by the fans.

[@JJadx]

@Bech Bretha europe. the US is the new continent.

[@3129021jc]

Wtf is lipsk you mean Leipzig??? Smh 😑

[@agme8045]

@Bech Bretha its just an expression, the americas are the “new continent” in western history/culture/society, and Europe the “old continent”.

[@agme8045]

Sports clubs in South America are also like that. Rivalries between football teams are literally decades old if not even a century+. Ever heard of River Plate and Boca Juniors?

[@emeritusiv1366]

Well, USA tends to do something different than the rest of the world. Imperial vs metric, Indy car vs F1, etc. You guys have your own thing and it’s okay, just don’t force it to the rest of the world.

[@Ass_of_Amalek]

US military: 👁👄👁

[@Racko.]

They're not forcing anything, they're trying to encourage optional sports they play, I dont understand or even play American football but it was good trying to see them go above and beyond and give it a shot

[@djgroopz4952]

I wouldn't say anything has been forced on the world. America's influence is mostly entertainment and that's taken up voluntarily.

[@Ass_of_Amalek]

Dj Groopz thank you for showcasing the famous american ignorance! america is the global empire, with a more expensive military than the next ten nations combined, probably more military bases in foreign countries than all other countries have combined, ceaseless wars of aggression fought since WW2, responsible for hundreds of coups, assassinations and terrorrist groups in other countries in the 20th and 21st century, and you think the way america interacts with the world is mostly that everybody likes your movies and music?! xD

[@djgroopz4952]

@@Ass_of_Amalek Yeah, that's were most of America's influence comes from.

[@vava995]

I tried once to watch the Super Bowl (European here) and I was so surprised how little game they actually played. I think the sport itself is okay, but the amount of downtime completely deterred me from watching it.

[@krisppynugget]

I gave it the benefit of the doubt and went to see a game in person once, since watching a sports game in person is always a better experience, but it really wasn't much of an improvement (the only thing that made it better were the fans cheering and being with my friends). The game itself is such a bore, I really don't get why it's so popular in the states.

[@mats7492]

I watched it once and it was so boring that I fell asleep (it’s on at 2am here) Just ad breaks, commentators talking for 3 minutes about this play that lasted 5 seconds..

[@tdrxy]

@@KpatTX you can say that about any game, i d say that about football(real one european). Very physical yet at the same time very strategised. But for a the naked your sport just seems random and short. I think most of us if we were padded down every inch and armoured like those guys we d all be pros at your game coming from europe. Maybe you think the same about my sport, but the ideea of holding the ball in your arms and running just seems so much easier

[@casper6198]

@kpat stick to handegg yank

[@pecha6339]

@@KpatTX and u are Am*rican

[@SteinGauslaaStrindhaug]

People in Europe (and most of the world except USA) play football (soccer) as from early childhood, and all you need to do so is a round ball, a field, and 2 goals (or just 4 markers of some sort indicating a goal). Even I who hates football and sports in general played a lot of football growing up since all my friends played. You can't just start a random new sport at elite level that nobody have any history with and expect it have much enthusiasm. If they started in the 90s getting 6-7 years olds to play, by now you'd have a generation growing up with the sport and therefore any chance of gaining popularity at a pro level. Giving up in less than a decade is just doomed to failure

[@SteinGauslaaStrindhaug]

Can you actually play American football without all that protective gear and without proper goals? If you want to start from scratch (no older family members to inherit gear from) the gear needs to be pretty inexpensive.

[@uhohhotdog]

People in USA play soccer as kids too 🙄🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@SteinGauslaaStrindhaug]

@@uhohhotdog I didn't say they didn't, but I assume they also play American football? (Or do they really suddenly start playing American football as adults?)

[@SteinGauslaaStrindhaug]

In Norway sports that "everyone" participate in, like soccer, cross country skiing, alpine skiing and a few other sports get consistent media coverage. Other less popular sports barely get any airtime even if we're doing quite well. Only very occasionally when a Norwegian person or team is doing exceptionally well, like women's handball in the 90s or Magnus Carlsen becoming a grandmaster in chess (which apparently is a sport), do non mainstream sports get any news coverage here. Unless 90% of Norwegians grew up playing American football or a Norwegian team suddenly become world champions; it probably won't get much media attention.

[@uhohhotdog]

@@SteinGauslaaStrindhaug We play every sport as kids. We probably played basketball the most because it’s indoors so every time It rained it was basketball day or dodgeball which should be a pro sport

[@cesarsantis5116]

In Europe and Southamerica soccer teams are not franchises. They are part of the culture and idiosyncrasy of the people. Barcelona and Madrid rivalry or Boca and River rivalry is not a just marketing stunt, is real.

[@KRYMauL]

And the New England Patriots or Greenbay Packer's aren't part of the culture?

[@yaisef1]

@@KRYMauL Not really. NFL teams pick and and move all the time because they are guaranteed a spot in the league and have no responsibility to their communities. The Patriots considered moving multiple times before they started winning. Most European teams have rules about community ownership which means that people have an actual stake in the success of the team. An example would be Millwall, a terrible team, that nonetheless serves as an anchor for a community.

[@ShowhowTV]

I mean for an example Las Vegas Raiders was bought, from Los Angeles, this is really unlikely to happen in football in Europe or South America, so yeah NFL is a Franchise, while Football in South America and Europe grow from politics and cultural aspects.

[@KRYMauL]

@@ShowhowTV The Raiders haven't been in LA since the 90s.

[@ph3733]

@@KRYMauL you’re missing the point. In Europe soccer is culture. Thousands of clubs. Young and old are playing. Tickets are 15 bucks for the top league. Many are lifelong members since birth. You’re not switching teams because your team plays bad. It’s just different than in the US where it’s more an uppidy sport and not many people are really interested in the game.

[@rcm926]

There are so many reasons why it isn't working, the main one being how little American companies understand European sporting culture. There's also rugby filling the same niche in most of western Europe, and the general anti-Americanisation attitude most Europeans have towards their own cultures.

[@aviatorsound914]

I mean Europeans they are more pro Russia and China. But there is a ant-European attitude here in America as well but before you say Americanization we are from Europe as well dumb dumb. Britain. The founding fathers were from Britain and I mean you can’t call someone American when they have European ancestry. American history is a name for European to label Americans as evil and bad. Anyhow we also have other people of other culture here in America so What’s consider American when American culture is shaped by European. Lmao.

[@aviatorsound914]

There’s nothing Americanization about it other than it being European and other culture. America don’t have a distinct culture other than a melting pot of other cultures like you wouldn’t call some thing Britain when it was brought from another continent to Britain…

[@aviatorsound914]

Plus American football was also developed from rugby in Europe as American football started as rugby. If you look at a rugby ball and compare it to a American football it’s almost the same. Like besides how America treat there definition of rugby. So American football was European as well because it was basically rugby mixed in with a bit of a soccer aspect and etc. Read your history before you start spoiling stuff. American football was not just invented off of nowhere it came from rugby…

[@rcm926]

@@aviatorsound914 Are you having a stroke or something?

[@AzizDoufikar2280]

@@aviatorsound914 I don't see it has a little bit of soccer in it but ok...

[@richardbroo6354]

The reason the NFL failed in Europe was the blatant disregards for existing American football teams and their fans. When they established teams they didn't absorbs the existing teams but cut them out completely in favor to start new teams with no fans. Most the existing European fans were not happy with that so they boycotted the NFL in Europe. They couldn't give away tickets to games. No one wanted them.

[@DMac12flyers]

By the end the only success was in Germany so it wouldn't be entirely wrong to say nfl Europe was really nfl Germany

[@macias7125]

it worked in Germany

[@S1LVAW0LF]

There was a netherlands team too right?

[@oldedwardian1778]

The reason the NFL failed in Europe is because it is BORING, 10 seconds of action followed by ages of standing around deciding what to do. Soccer is 90 minutes of heart stopping THRILLING action, instantaneous changes of tactics from attack to Defence and back again. Rules that make it tough to play so only the best play and win. NFL football has NO OFFSIDE RULE, just toss the ball to the guy standing in the end zone. Soccer fans go to watch THE GAME, in NFL FOOTBALL the best action is the cheerleaders at half time. Rugby is a rough game played by tough men, NFL Football is payed by overweight players all dressed up in padding.

[@S1LVAW0LF]

@@oldedwardian1778 the forward passing game alone makes gridiron a million times better than rugby. I watch both and tbh, they are both great sports in their own way. As an American, doe I admit that it probably isn’t gonna be popular overseas like that so it really should be compared to Aussie rules football if anything. It’s not like it needs p to, the nfl is the most profitable league in the world despite only one country watching it so you can keyboard warrior all you want. It won’t stop the cowboys from being worth 6 billion dollars or w/e crazy number it is. it doesn’t need the world market sadly. I think they are trying to move into Europe cause they see that you guys are only focusing on like 2 sports, ⚽️ and 🏀. except the uk ofcourse, you guys have your own set of sports.

[@fgsaramago]

It will never be successful in Europe if you keep calling it "Europe" as if the entire continent is some monolithic thing. You need to invest in each specific country and have a league in each one and that will basically never happen. It's like if soccer didn't exist in America and you created a team in Brazil and another in the US and everything was in French. Simply wouldn't work. Also, people have a hard time getting invested in a sport where all the teams are owned by some corp or billionaire and not the fans themselves. It's kind of a weird concept to get adjusted to.

[@InnuendoXP]

The thing is, there are already isolated groups of enthusiasts in these countries because American cultural exports are huge. They could make attempts to help organise these groups into real clubs & direct funding into them to attract & develop domestic homegrown athletic talent, investing in formalising national associations with a wider association across Europe, fund tournaments between them & then bring American teams over for exhibition matches to help bring the audience in once a significant local scene has been established. Oh and stop insisting on calling it 'football' because terminology overlap with FIFA is only going to end badly, & accept 'gridiron' or something that makes sense outside the USA. But these things take years to decades in the making, and a sincere belief in the sport as anything beyond some attempt to milk clueless investors & line your pockets. It'd be like if Britain threw all the money they wanted into trying to shove Cricket into the USA, but if all that amounted to was buying stadium space & sending commonwealth teams over there with no target market in particular expecting a huge surge within a year or two, Americans rightly wouldn't have a reason to care in the slightest.

[@fgsaramago]

@@InnuendoXP I think you're too optimistic in saying there are already people in Europe that care about it. I've never met one. Just seeing it referenced in movies doesn't mean people with care about it. I mean, a lot of weird stuff goes on in American movies and none of it translates into the habits of the people who watch those movies. People in Europe will usually watch dubbed versions who will translate stuff like an "NFL" mention into something more culturally relevant to the country in question, sometimes they'll just call it rugby

[@Racko.]

Ppl tend to say Europe instead of naming the individual nations because it saves much more time instead of naming it one by one I believe

[@Ass_of_Amalek]

what do you mean? soccer teams aren't owned by the fans, they're owned by corporations and filthy rich bastards, too. it's printed all over their clothes and stadiums. what do you think "fly emirates" and "gazprom" mean? xD

[@InnuendoXP]

@@fgsaramago I believe you when you say you've never met anyone interested in it. Like I said, isolated groups. Probably a small fraction of NFL enthusiasts compared to, say, model train enthusiasts. The amount of people where if it weren't for the Internet they wouldn't have the population to even have matches within their entire province/state/county/whatever. I never said it was some huge groundswell, or even remotely guaranteed as viable, just that by feeding whatever fragment of homegrown enthusiasm that may exist for the sport, they might induce some people to actually care about it. While the way they've been going, nobody is ever going to give a single damn about that sport outside of North America.

[@yesfredfredburger8008]

Lol NFL isn't even gaining new American fans

[@chioptnstdr3448]

Exactly. NBA is taking over world wide in my opinion especially with well skilled Euros coming into the league. Football and Baseball are in trouble.

[@zoanth4]

Cuz woke crap is on the way out. They used the term latinx the other day and I'm pretty much done watching it if they are gonna go that route.

[@InnuendoXP]

@@chioptnstdr3448 not to mention Basketball's closest sport analogues (eg. Netball and... others? (Netball is just turn-based basketball don't @ me)) don't even remotely have the same market presence, and Basketball is more exciting to watch. The opposite of both those things is true for NFL vs Football/Soccer and Rugby.

[@chioptnstdr3448]

@@InnuendoXP I agree

[@hansklok3564]

@@chioptnstdr3448 as it should be, those sports only seem to be created to sell adds.

[@lobaxx]

Calling a team in Europe “X Dragons” is asking to fail

[@DrBernon]

Why? We love dragons in Catalonia. That was like the best part of the plan. Though, it needed some fireworks and demons dancing around, instead of cheerleaders.

[@lobaxx]

@@DrBernon “Place Something” names are very uniquely American. Even if the “something” happens to be local, it lacks the centuries old history most clubs have here. Unfortunately here in Sweden a bunch of Hockey Teams changed their names in 90’s to sound “American”. Frölunda Indians, Malmö Redhawks etc. Just erased their entire history for som corny Americanism (E.g. Malmö Redhawks used to be part of the same club as Malmö FF, the same club that dominates Swedish Football and qualified to the Champions League this year).

[@DrBernon]

@@lobaxx Yes. It is clear they messed up being too American. But what you say is worse. Changing the name of an existing team is just not ok. I also hate when marketers change names and logos to get a broader appeal. They always mess up. But the Barcelona dragons were a new team. So that is OK. And while it lacked any history, you have to start some day. The problem here is that it looks like they thought it would become a big game with tons of fans in 2 or 4 years. That is ridiculous.

[@kgw72]

@@DrBernon The part when they use an Aztec-like dragon as logo because Spain = European Mexico was a bit stupid..

[@jascrandom9855]

@@lobaxx It's more like "The (Place) (Plural Noun)". While in Europe its just "(Singular City Name) + FC/SC)"

[@JJadx]

you've only made it in Europe if your fans start beating each other to death over their fav club. the NFL will never reach that.

[@artski09]

Millwall F.C. for life

[@uhohhotdog]

So nationalism is the key?

[@artski09]

@@uhohhotdog yes hell localism is even better

[@KRYMauL]

Please look up Raider Nation.

[@searchingforufos3102]

Yeah there wont be the same passion. In big games, or euro championships or world cups, cities with cars driving around with flagsm horns banging. people celebrating. drunk, partying

[@kod-s]

How to make Football popular in Europe. 1. Stop calling it Football in Europe.

[@cheddar]

I honestly think that's an underestimated barrier

[@salentino]

Also, make it interesting and not boring af

[@donaldharris3037]

In defense of calling it NFL Europe the league had teams in multiple countries what else would you call it

[@uhohhotdog]

If the name is what gets you, you’re really overthinking it. It’s just a fucking name.

[@uhohhotdog]

@@salentino you find it boring because you have no idea what’s going on. Soccer is fucking boring.

[@valiroime]

Europe already has a game called _Football_ , we (Americans) call it soccer. It (American Football) will need to be rechristened as something other than football. Might I suggest _Dodge and Crunch_ ?

[@eustache_dauger]

Tag with Egg

[@orangecat504]

Pass and run ball 🏈

[@OscarOSullivan]

Soccer a common term in England until the 1980’s, still widely used in Ireland.

[@GoTFCanada1230]

It doesn't help if you feature games like Jets vs Falcons in London

[@MrHorse-by3mp]

Ah, the old Murican football. The national pastime: being reminded every five minutes by Subway to "Eat Fresh!"

[@jeanrodriguez2078]

oooo take it down or subway gonna sue you

[@mikehurt3290]

That must be jarring for Europeans especially since the clock never stops at soccer so commercials happen during halftime to a game where there's a commercial every other minute

[@galacticmaster4852]

Ads more entertaining than soccer.

[@casper6198]

@@galacticmaster4852 yeah yank.✈🔥🏢🏢

[@AzizDoufikar2280]

@@galacticmaster4852 LMAO NO

[@alexbaxter3730]

Because we have Rugby and don't use helmets lol

[@JWW855]

But don't hit as hard 🤣

[@alexbaxter3730]

@@JWW855if that's what you want to believe and makes you feel secure enough to sleep haha

[@Fozzy1776]

Have a look at A7FL Football

[@InnuendoXP]

@@JWW855 easy to feel invincible when it's padding-on-padding but I guess you think crippling concussions with long-term health detriments are a flex.

[@JWW855]

@@InnuendoXP No, but actually surving cancer and then having the medical company write off the charges is. 😏

[@FatUberUddersOfChaos]

I like American football, but the conclusion during preliminary research should have concluded that it isn't feasible. We Europeans are too culturally diverse for a single strategy and our mindshare is already occupied by other sports.

[@skaervan]

I think the main problem was that no research was done beforehand. American football was well established in some European countries even before NFL came over but those teams (and their supporters) was ignored. And Europe already have the IFAF Europe League (with teams not included in the NFLE one nor the new league).

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

But they cannot grift all the money they desire if they share with EXISTING structures and don't try to implement their idiotic "pay to play" league system instead of going for the established majority model of relegation and promotion to stay in the top league (or not).

[@odemata87]

only sensible comment on the subject outside tired football vs soccer nomenclature

[@Zych.Grzegorz]

"I stepped into a country where nobody knows what football is" Well, there's your problem. Spaniards (and Europeans in general) know very well what football is and it's not what you're peddling. Learn the basics about a market before you start doing business in it.

[@charliemilroy6497]

He stepped into a country where he didn't know what football is and tried to convert people to a totally foreign game that uses the hands a whole lot more than the feet.

[@DrBernon]

That is 100% the problem. They clearly did not know the market at all. It's like they thought we like football (the real one) because we had never seen American football. Or something like that. And when it didn't work they made it more American with cheerleaders. lol

[@KRYMauL]

I think you mean Association "soccer" Football and Rugby Football seeing as that is the proper name of the sport.

[@Steamrick]

A good first step would be renaming it 'Handegg'. That should improve acceptance in the international market.

[@InnuendoXP]

"Armoured Battle of Athleticism for Dominance of the Prolate Spheroid" rolls right off the tongue

[@eustache_dauger]

Tag & Egg probably

[@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns]

Rugby for wimps.

[@uhohhotdog]

Your football is not shaped like a foot

[@fortunatejeremy]

I was thinking this exact thing 😂

[@mats7492]

American Football is incredibly boring from a European perspective, constant ad breaks and only 10 seconds of action in between these ad breaks And pretty much every major city in Europe already has at least one big football (soccer) team usually with a decades long history. Some teams are 100-130 years old… My favorite team was founded in the 1890s! What Americans don’t get that, in europe, you don’t change your team based on their success.. You have a team and that’s your team for life. Not like the US where you form a club out of thin air and put it in front of the local people to tell them „this is your favorite team now“ , just to relocate the team to a whole different city 2 years later… Doesn’t work here Being a fan of a team more than just „entertainment“ or a hobby… It’s passion, family history and so much more.. My great grandfather already loved the same club that I do… Where talking the 1920s here I will never support a different team, NEVER!

[@ingislakur]

Dont make you personal opinion an opinion of the whole Europe. Im from Europoe and you dont talk on my behalf

[@mats7492]

@@ingislakur No idea where europoe is but if you don’t agree with my comment, you’re not a true club supporter but just a spectator

[@aaron2339]

@@mats7492 lul this comment makes no sense, just because you think the way you do other people are still allowed to have different opinions. Also it is not your task to define what a true sports lover is.

[@mats7492]

@@aaron2339 yes, it absolutely is! You boring wannabe fans have to deal with it!

[@aaron2339]

@@mats7492 it's just sad how fanatic fans of something can be. You do yours. I'll do mine

[@ondank]

The insistence on calling it "Football" probably really didn't help. Especially considering how rarely Hand-Egg involves using the feet. Turning up on a continent in which Football is a way of life and trying to introduce a slow game with the same name was never going to work, especially as its a spectator sport which we just don't really have in Europe. And trying to bring an american feel was the WORST thing they could of done. I would imagine half of america finds that shit to be too cringe to bare, no idea why they thought it would play in other markets.

[@samcallison1033]

A slow game? It's way faster than soccer and so are our athletes

[@jdms2830]

@@samcallison1033 It's a slow game if there's adverts in between every 5 minutes of the game, and no american football player is faster when they have to wear tons of armour

[@samcallison1033]

@@jdms2830 lmao look up tyreek hill. They are faster even with it. They are bigger, stronger, faster athletes

[@samcallison1033]

@@jdms2830 yeah it's a contact sport, there are rounds in mma and boxing aswell

[@gastrickbunsen1957]

@@samcallison1033 Football is a contact sport with some horrific broken bones injuries . Rugby more visibly a contact sport, has a ten or fifteen minute break between two halves of forty minutes.

[@lukeporcher6378]

Because we have much better sports

[@chefnyc]

They can start by finding a better name. “American football” (to differentiate) or “hugball” (to clarify which organ you use, not your foot), or “30cm ball” (to mention the size of the ball. Nobody uses imperial system).

[@annoyedwalrus7803]

Hugball is a pretty good name for it!

[@galacticmaster4852]

Bro. 30cm ball? That’s a foot long in America hence football.

[@vaze1182]

Well how about handeggball that seems about right

[@RealSameerRaza]

Hugbal !!!!!! 😂

[@zjean3417]

The 2 biggest problems I would see with this is: 1: Time differences and travel times. They would need to have a European conference and American conference and they meet in the playoffs and only for the playoffs. 2: The monopoly actual football (soccer) has on European sports. This would also get quite confusing in terms of terminology.

[@NPAMike]

I don't think you need a conference you could a European division where they mainly travel to play Eastern US teams. Plus as time go on efficiencies in air travel will improve.

[@theb3654]

@@NPAMike I've heard rumors of a jet that could fly from NY to London in like 4 hours but been hearing it for years now so we will see if that happens.

[@juanjose9368]

2. A lot of sports are popular in Europe

[@Howdy42968]

How to clear confusion is calling American football American rugby and call football(soccer) football in Europe but in America it stays the same

[@OscarOSullivan]

@@theb3654It existed until 2003, called Concorde.

[@JJadx]

as a european i'm laughing my ass off at this video. absolutely amazing.

[@SkylarkingsCinema]

I dated an american for multiple years (being bri'ish myself) - personally NFL would never work in europe for one simple factor.... and i think its to do with bitterness between the two continents on which sport is 'the bigger more impressive talented sport'. every american i met waffled on about how entertaining the sport was and how physically demanding it was but me as a football watcher from europe totally disagree and always will that it requires higher levels of athleticism and is too slow to compete with soccer. this often led to shunning NFL, or on the flip side, shunning soccer; and most americans would straight refuse to even try watching a game or two of soccer. americans are too far up their own butts to let NFL work abroad. its THEIR sport, the only 'watchable' sport to a lot of them. theres also no college backing in football so where would the players come from?

[@TheLydiaReed]

"bri'ish" lol I think that's how many older Americans or those in isolated areas feel about football. Personally, I could not care less about the sport. My dad watches it but he was never fanatical about it. Every time he watches a game, I leave the room because I get so bored. A lot of my friends feel the same way.

[@searchingforufos3102]

The usa dream, put messi and ronaldo in shoulder pads and hope it takes off

[@l.c.8475]

I guess the rest of the world has already spoken on what true football is... ⚽️

[@slurpii4669]

Bri'ish, very funny, im laughing so hard

[@mikehurt3290]

One huge difference is soccer the clock never stops so commercials during games are rare where in Football at times there seem to be more commercials than game play so I imagine that must be jarring for Europeans at first

[@joshbentley2307]

Half time 👀

[@Maasky]

Football =🦶⚽

[@GURken]

american football is impossible to watch, it's a constant commercial with a little bit of sport

[@Megamean09]

That's what all sports leagues are.

[@Jsdo1980]

@@Megamean09 Not football.

[@metalvideos1961]

@@Jsdo1980 no football got commercials all around the field lol. its more advertisement then sport with football.

[@Jsdo1980]

@@metalvideos1961 I interpreted it as the OP meant all the commercial breaks. I tune the ad billboards out, but breaks annoy the crap out of me.

[@russelldyke7997]

@@Megamean09 Not Rugby

[@rhysgriffiths3544]

I love the use of welsh football (with a dragon as the national symbol) pretending to be the dragons, also, when did Edinburgh move to Aberdeen?

[@rantanplancuba4237]

Frankfurt has also moved almost to where Bremen is

[@vaughanash]

Sigh, that's the laziest thing I've ever seen in a report, surely they could have just had a photo of the stadium and a logo of the team instead of just using Welsh fans

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

a dragon has six limbs, a four limbed dragon like thing is a Wyvern.

[@throstlewanion]

Yeah the problem is that football is already a very popular game in Europe, just not the one you’re thinking of

[@Wulfieman]

Because Europeans don't need a sport that copied rugby but made it more kid friendly and also plagiarized the name of football. Not to mention said sport lasts in average 3 hours 12 minutes, yet 90% of the time players aren't doing anything.

[@EverettBurger]

Fun fact: during an NFL game, there is only 11 minutes of action.

[@Wulfieman]

@@EverettBurger Wow... Can you imagine wasting 3 hours 12 minutes every weekend just to see 11 minutes of game action?

[@pietr1036]

@@Wulfieman Better than see 90 minutes of 0x0

[@alphonsemaina8293]

@@pietr1036 Nice try but at least football is more entertaining because things are constantly moving. One minute is nil nil the next a rocket is fired into a net and the people go apeshit.

[@Enrico9431_]

@@pietr1036 I've never seen an NFL game before, nor am I interested in football, but I would find a 0:0 game more interesting than the supposed 11 minutes of action, just because during those 90 minutes of an eventual 0:0 score there's still stuff going on, people are playing, there's tension between players as of what might happen in the next few secconds.

[@gradientO]

Football, ah yes, foot

[@cheddar]

Hey... there's some kicking... some...

[@justaguy9224]

@@cheddar Why don’t you call it handegg though?

[@cheddar]

@@justaguy9224 Much better question

[@Zones33]

@@justaguy9224 why don’t you call your pansy sport divegrass? Since that’s all they cry for when they want a PK

[@uhohhotdog]

It’s shaped like a foot 🦶 Soccer balls are not shaped like a foot

[@TheAriaVG]

The problem is obvious! They tried to introduce a franchise not a sport. They should start small with local national teams, then go for the big championship style games.

[@b22chris]

If the NFL wants Europe to be interested in football they need to bring football to youth sports. Diving right in to professional level is not how it’s done.

[@cyrustakem7993]

No,they need to stop calling that crap football, we already have footbal which is played with the foot and a ball, not the hand and an egg

[@b22chris]

@@cyrustakem7993 soccer is good for small boys and small men. But big men play football.

[@KRYMauL]

@@cyrustakem7993 You do release that there are two main types of Football, right? Rugby Football and Association "Soccer" Football, American Football was created before the major split so it's not wrong to call it American Football.

[@searchingforufos3102]

Football in the uk dates back hundreds of years. When towns would a kick ball shaped object to different areas. Then over time it got more skillfull, But the terms and words, soccer and football all date back to uk history. The usa no matter how they try and explain themselves. Dont have massive amounts of history to justify their arguments

[@b22chris]

@@searchingforufos3102 soccer was invented by French housewives while their husbands cooked dinner.

[@oxgoth]

Because we already have football. You know, that game we play with our feet. Hence 'foot' 'ball'. We also have rugby. Also if we want to watch a game that takes for ever we watch cricket.

[@aaronkindi552]

Exactly

[@KRYMauL]

You mean Association Football? Oh wait, I now you mean Rugby Football! Sorry for the terrible naming that is the English language.

[@joermnyc]

Playing a few games in Europe per season is one thing, but logistical challenges would need to be worked out to have an actual home team in London, since they’d need to host 8 or 9 other teams, and play 8 or 9 away games, and everyone would need to deal with jet lag from traveling, either by adding in rest days or learning to mitigate the problem.

[@milesi1469]

I live in France and I really like NFL

[@NovelNovelist]

Football does have a terrible pacing problem. Soccer, basketball, hockey, and most other sports are much more exciting to watch and much faster paced. I like watching the actual football plays too...but it takes so frickin LOOOOOONG between plays and overall there's like 5X more waiting and talking about the plays than actual, you know, PLAYING. Maybe I'm in the minority, but the only way I'd be interested in watching football is if I could watch a non-live, heavily edited version with ALL the in-between plays, time outs, and halftime cut out, so that I am just watching continuous plays, no waiting.

[@EmperorZelos]

You got it backward, American football, aka rugby for weaklings aka handegg, football is the thing you kick with your foot...aka soccer by idiots.

[@KRYMauL]

@@EmperorZelos Actually the form of Rugby that Football is based on, which was actually created before the Rugby/Football split, is much more violent. The problem with the pacing is actually deliberate so that people didn't die anymore because of how much more violent the game was getting. Also, the students at Oxford starting calling that sport Association "Soccer" Football and it's called that in nearly every British occupied country.

[@kev25811]

You can literally try this out with NFL game pass. They have a "condensed" version where you just see each snap. The thing with American Football is that each play has a LOT going on so you end up missing out if you don't have replay and commentary. I wish they would do a version where there would be commentary and replay on interesting plays while the 3 yard runs just went snap to snap or something. I don't know. For me, football is a sport to sit and watch and invest yourself in like a movie you can yell at. I don't mind that it's long, and when you realize exactly how much of it is a chess match, it starts to make more sense. But I'm a guy who has a hard time watching football (soccer to us Americans) and hockey because even though the ball or puck is always moving it feels like nothing ever HAPPENS. When stuff happens in NFL football, it's often unbelievable. Like... Go watch any compilation of amazing catches or runs or tackles. Look up troy polamalu's highlights. Magic is just more likely to happen at any individual point in time during these games.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

I know that Americans tend to call Soccer boring due to the frequent interruptions and the low end results. But it's an infinitely more athletic, demanding sport than their always from a dead still charges. During the World Cup finale in 2014 the german captain Bastian Schweinsteiger ran 15.3 km in just over 100 minutes of game time. almost 10 miles. How many games does even a great quarterback or wide receiver need for that? A lot of players in other positions won't get to 10 miles in a whole season, FFS.

[@KRYMauL]

@@Ugly_German_Truths The NBA is quickly becoming the most popular sport and Soccer looks like it’s ripe to take the MLB in third.

[@roadrunner6224]

11 minutes of play in 3 hours just isn´t a good deal. I like to watch american football sometimes, but not on a weekly bases.

[@benarchie6024]

which is why it isn’t 11 minutes lol

[@musicaficionado3805]

There’s more action in those 11 minutes than there is in 90 minutes of soccer.

[@roadrunner6224]

@@musicaficionado3805 no

[@musicaficionado3805]

@@roadrunner6224 yes. Divegrass is very boring. A bunch of joggers flopping around faking injuries for a 0-0 tie. Real exciting.

[@rajat1960]

@@musicaficionado3805 bruh

[@rowananderson8318]

Let's all agree the 'Yet' in the title is completely unnecessary...

[@huubhuijbens8816]

Well the last years in Engeland it's going pretty good! With the games in Wembley and now in the new Tottenham stadium. I think it could only be in stadiums that are not used by clubs or in stadiums with artificial grass that have a system were the field can be changed. The new Tottenham stadium stadium has that, also one stadium in the Netherlands(Arnhem), one in Germany(Gelsenkirchen) and one in Russia(Moscow). The 1992 Olympic stadion in Barcelona is very barely used. Just like The Millennium stadium in Cardiff is also barely used. so maybe once their would be something of a competition in London, Barcelona, Moscow, Cardiff, Gelsenkirchen and Arnhem.

[@tdrxy]

@@KpatTX i ve lived and travelled through europe all my life, currently also am here. *I have never ever heard anybody say even a sentence about american fotbl*

[@tdrxy]

@@KpatTX i do indeed hate everything american. I m 25 not so young not old. I do think i am better because i am not subject to american propaganda, lyfestyle etc.. There is absolutely no local game of am fotball nowhere near my country or any other for that matter. I think i ve seen maybe 5 6 rugby fields all my life. If you would know how cancer for our culture would be to adapt to american style you would be annoyed also. We already have your music, movies and tv shows that indoctrinated us,only sports are left. If you think we don t watch everything that s happening there haha.. I am as american as you are the only difference is i ve never set foot there. We ve been raised by your media by your standards and weak minded people always try to emulate your culture. It doesn't belong here. We don t have guns, we don t have black and whites divisions,not your metric system, poeple don t ask here what your political affiliation is..nor we have budget to be "american". Your comment is kind hearted, but i ve met other americans online, they don t give a shiy about anything outside their country, and even you think i am "european". I m romanian, europe is not a country there are huge cultural, linguistic etc differences from country to country. The only thing in common is we tried to be american because we were raised to belive in the usa dream, usa always the good guy, always the next step in evolution. The majority of us despise that now, so excuse me for my passion.

[@tdrxy]

@@KpatTX not reading all that is such patetic response. If you re really interested why most of us despise your country, the reasons are there.

[@tdrxy]

@@KpatTX i dont give af about the argument. I just wanted to let you know how i feel. And if you think that's not the mentality of the majority you re sipping on that juicy american ignorance big time

[@MrJoysiq]

An average NFL game lasts 3 hours and 12 minutes, but if you tally up the time when the ball is actually in play, the action amounts to a mere 11 minutes. Thats why NFL hand egg sucks.. sincerely, the rest of the world

[@explodethebomb]

Are those the actual stats? I expected more ads than action, but that's just ridiculous

[@MrJoysiq]

@@explodethebomb yes they are correct stats

[@zoanth4]

That's going off just one study by a journal 11 years ago, and all other sources cited 18+.

[@MrJoysiq]

@@zoanth4 do your own research my guy count the play time and ads next time you watch hand egg

[@alphonsemaina8293]

@@zoanth4 How is that better though?

[@Chomp-Rock]

'Moving to a country that didn't know what football was' Excuse us Europeans, but your the guys playing FOOTball with your hands.

[@graham1034]

Honestly, it's just surprising to me that it has continued to be so popular in the US. Football has a lot going against it for spectators. It's very slow compared to other major sports (except baseball), the rules are complicated and somewhat arbitrary, there are very few games in a season, there is little opportunity for most players to display their skill, kids/amateurs can't easily play the game (compared to soccer, basketball, etc). There is also a lot of negative cultural baggage that goes along with it. The main thing that football has going for it is that it be played at soccer stadiums.

[@graham1034]

@@anthonyguitron6741 i can see how that would help by making ever game important. Especially when you compare to e.g. baseball where the outcome of most regular season games doesn't mean much.

[@civichoo6017]

@@graham1034 I disagree with all of your points. 1. That’s it slow: People here (mainly Europeans) keep repeating that there’s a lot of downtime in American football and that there’s only ever like 15 minutes of actual play-but to Americans like myself, at least those 15 minutes of playtime are actually entertaining, whereas soccer maybe has 5 seconds of entertainment despite being more “fluid.” I think you also misunderstand how much is going on between plays in American football-it’s like chess: the offenses and defenses are reading each other. Every single play has some consequence: you are either closer to a first down or closer to having to punt the ball to the other team or closer to having to settle for a field goal (depending on the circumstances). 2. The complicated rules: I hear you there, but the rules are what makes it entertaining. There’s a lot of thinking going on. Again, it’s like chess. 3. The few games per season: It makes each game more high-stakes. You can’t expect to start the season 0-5 and hope to make the playoffs, yet every year there are one or 2 surprise teams that get hot in December and manage to make it in. 4. There’s little opportunity to showcase skills: Dunno what you mean here. Do you expect each player to touch the ball and score a touchdown or something? If you have 11 offensive players on the field, BY RULE five of those players can’t touch the ball, but they’re still very skilled because their job is to block for the quarterback and/or running back. Each position requires a different skillset. If you want to see all the players touch the ball, then soccer or basketball is where you should look. 5. The negative cultural baggage: that’s a European problem, not an American problem. The NFL doesn’t have negative cultural baggage in the U.S. (or pretty much North America, as other countries in this part of the globe like the sport). The main thing that American football has going for it os that Americans actually grew up with the game. It’s a cultural difference: there’s nothing inherently better about soccer. You Europeans like it more because you invented it and play it; same thing goes with Americans and American football.

[@JT-yl9yt]

A lot of people play it without equipment in pickup games everywhere in the U.S all you need is a football and make your own field if you really want too. People just iron man all the time to play offense and defense if needed.

[@graham1034]

@@JT-yl9yt I guess its more accessible if you play with flags rather than tackle.

[@JT-yl9yt]

@@graham1034 yeah but if you've only played with flags then you don't understand the game fully on TV when people do get hit .

[@mad4396]

football>american football

[@KRYMauL]

You mean Rugby Football or Association Football? Sorry English is a terrible language.

[@eek2020]

Oh no...Barcelona knew what Football was (0:54), just not American Football (as much). Also in Europe its not soccer, the clue here is that the foot hits the ball the majority of the time - right there is the disconnect (3:42)

[@KRYMauL]

Actually some students at Oxford College started calling the two Football sports: Association "Soccer" Football and Rugby Football.

[@abbofun9022]

Let’s be honest, this is a rather poor attempt at making money by ripping off ignorant investors. Doomed for failure and disaster.

[@InnuendoXP]

Nothing about the strategies described indicate any intention of taking localisation efforts seriously.

[@anniekallen4472]

Football is a great sport, but given the number of young men who get concussions as a result of playing (often with lifelong impacts on their wellbeing), maybe this is one product that's okay if we don't export it to the rest of the world.

[@nwa9325]

The greatest continent 🇪🇺 only play the greatest sport⚽️

[@jascrandom9855]

The problem is that the public outside of the US and Canada don't play American Football. They don't know the sport, so they don't get that simpathetic rush when watching the game. The NFL would have to get the sport to be played by the kids at school, and they are going to have big problems with because American Football is an expensive and injury prone sport that European parents (and most of the rest of the world) will likely object to. By comparison, Soccer is a very cheap and safer option.

[@Londronable]

Just how much soccer is the default in many European countries is seriously being underestimated here. In school during breaks you play it. When you come home from school you take a tree, a hedge, anything, and play it. My neighborhood had 12 kids between the ages of 5 and 14 playing it every day for at least a few hours during summer brake and with few exceptions they were part of a team. Training twice a week and having a game every weekend. For most other sports are an afterthought. He "enter other sport than soccer" is a conversation starter.

[@EuropeanLeagueofFootball]

We’re here 👋

[@metrofilmer8894]

I was going to say. Love what you guys are doing for the game of football.

[@oliver24x]

Nobody here wants to watch a sport where the game stops every 10 seconds.

[@dnstone1127]

Golf, tennis, cricket, snooker ?

[@PhantomHarlock78]

Because a game that nothing happen 95% of time is booooring.

[@LuchadorMasque]

Not how it works at all

[@mcbrowniealoha]

You must be talking about euro football

[@LuchadorMasque]

@@mcbrowniealoha no form of football is mostly stagnant. If you know how the game works, things are constantly happening, just not all of them involve a guy on a field. Us football is Def not as fast passed as football, but something like Canadian football (gridiron football) moves really quick. It's nit boring if you like it.

[@oxgoth]

Oh no. Lots of stuff happens. Adverts and inane commentary.

[@Racko.]

Commercials

[@rob_i208]

I imagine they have a similar problem as soccer here in the US where the best US soccer players usually get poached; either by futbol teams abroad or as kickers in the NFL.

[@TrangleC]

I can't speak about whether or why American Football will take hold in Britain, but since the video title asks about Europe, I as a (mostly) German can say with confidence that it will most likely never come anywhere near being as popular as Soccer here and I assume the same goes for most of Europe. The big advantage Soccer has is its simplicity. Ultimately all a bunch of kids need to play Soccer is a ball and something they can treat as a goal. American Football is just too involved and too complicated. You need special gear and a special ball and a special playing field. It lacks the spontaneity and accessibility of Soccer. Soccer is a game, American Football is a part time job that requires you to go to a special place and wear special clothes, like going to a factory job.

[@TheLydiaReed]

SO true! I coach kid's sports on the weekends and soccer is my favorite because of its simplicity. There aren't many rules to learn and there isn't much downtime. For example, if the goalie gets the ball, the game is still in play. In football, I get so bored because NOTHING happens. I also enjoy coaching baseball because I am American after all... but yeah, football sucks.

[@mats7492]

You don’t even need a Ball. People in the 3rd world just play with a can Still works

[@godusopp2752]

I mean in american schools we play football without equipment during like recess and stuff cause all you need is the ball which every school has , you just play flag football where when your flag is pulled its like being tackled

[@civichoo6017]

@@godusopp2752 American here (and huge NFL and college football fan)-he’s right that soccer is easier to play LOGISTICALLY speaking. You can play 1-on-1 soccer (same with basketball) on pretty much any surface-grass, dirt, even concrete if you’re careful. This makes it more accessible (though I don’t necessarily think it makes it the better game-personally I hate soccer). In American football, you need at least 2-3 people per team and if you’re going to be playing tackle, it better be on grass.

[@godusopp2752]

@@civichoo6017 yeah but their is variations , we used to play 5 on 5 two hand touch on concrete in school

[@corngreaterthanwheat]

"You guys wanna see a guy kick a ball really far?" "Is he the keeper or something?" "No, he's just a weird guy who only kicks balls far." "What's wrong with this sport?"

[@SomeOne-hw6jw]

Yeah.. this video seems lacking a few key infos.. there're 150k americans living in London, 120k in germany and 40k in Spain (mostly Barcelona and Madrid)... So I would bet that most of those """european""" fans were really just american fans and maybe some of their european friends that were invited..

[@Valerianqelbri]

This is never gonna work. In every instance they tried they started from the wrong end. You don't get an everlasting interest from people to a new sport by immediately establishing an artificial league and new teams in huge stadiums by sending American players over from USA to play. That's short term thinking and destined to fail, because they are not thinking long term. If they want Europeans to care for this sport, Europeans have to be able to play it from the ground up when they are young. Basic things like establishing smaller youth teams, leagues and competitions has to happen. Only then will you get a minor interest around the continent. This would require at least 20 years of development and is something a private closed sport organization like the NFL would never be able to or have the patience to do.

[@Sxlmxn.zyn007]

Football: Skill Handegg: Skilless

[@Jake_Marbais_]

Yeah because running up and down a field is skill 💀

[@civichoo6017]

Lmfao you couldn’t even get on a high school football team over here

[@jukio02]

I think the NFL has a better chance in China than Europe. Chinese people love American products and stuff in general.

[@cs00LP]

With the new European league of football all the NFL Europe teams are coming back. This time it is build up way better. The first bowl has the Galaxy won against Hamburg seadevils

[@achtzehnhundertsiebenundac1186]

I live in Hamburg and never heard of them lol

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

It will always remain a mix of fringe enthusiasts and astroturfing moneyguys trying to milk an "unexploited market". Which Europe isn't in the least, it's jus texploited by ten other sports that fit the local mentality far more than Stop Motion Ball.

[@tdrxy]

How does that even sound for a european ear? Hamburg "seadevils" omg bruh it makes me puke

[@achtzehnhundertsiebenundac1186]

@@tdrxy the team names of american sports in germany often sound like this. We had the Hamburg Freezers in hockey, we have the Hamburg Towers for Baskrtball and Hamburg Stealers in Baseball. So we are used to it. These sports also do not have a long history in Germany so the americanization is not as weird as it would be in football or handball

[@tdrxy]

@@achtzehnhundertsiebenundac1186 that's disgusting bro

[@ngugikioi]

To be honest I doubt American Football will ever have popularity outside North America. Football is the worlds most favorite sport even beyond Europe and it would take a miracle for the slower, less exciting American Football to catch up

[@Cps1402]

Change the name first.

[@candyneige6609]

The reason why the NFL failed in Europe is because they already have their own NFL called the Six Nations, which is a tournament containing the 6 teams of England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, France and Italy (sorry Northern Ireland), hence the name, and since the teams are national teams and not city teams, when the NFL tried to spread to Europe, because national teams are more popular than city teams, their city teams ended up being less popular than the national teams by a lot, in other words, the NFL failed at spreading to Europe, the opposite could be happening where the NFL took the idea from the Six Nations and made 50 national teams with each one representing one state (sorry DC and Puerto Rico), either way, American football (not to be confused with soccer which is named with some variation of "football" in non-English-speaking countries (like in French, where it's called "football")) is still a minority in Europe, but growing in popularity nonetheless.

[@caesar7734]

When I saw the thumbnail: “What are you talking about? It is the most popular sport in London.”

[@harishkarumanchi7244]

Because it is a sport where skill comes second to physicality unlike football, cricket, hockey, etc. Basketball has better chance than NFL

[@hobbesfield1082]

volleyball and basketball are already quite popular in europe, although not nearly on the same scale as football

[@mcbrowniealoha]

So basically euro’s aren’t built for it 😂

[@abadyr_]

@@mcbrowniealoha check out rugby before you call Europeans wimps. It's American football, but with less ads, less interruptions and more teamwork to move the ball up.

[@MASViper]

@@abadyr_ You forgot one more thing: no protective gear.

[@Racko.]

@@hobbesfield1082 Football is the most popular sport in the world, it's number one in all of Africa, South America and Europe and as well

[@Martin-gf1hh]

England has a football team it’s called The silly nannies.

[@mats7492]

Hehehehehehee

[@alexbur6021]

Was that The episode where Peter moves from the New York Patriots to the London silly nannies in family guy

[@crimsonfury949]

Yes I'm sure that the sport where advertising is played every 15 minutes will succeed in Europe

[@abarlunera]

More like every 5 minutes.

[@feltonlewis7381]

There's already a league in Europe called European league of football

[@Nutty_Ba11s]

You mean UEFA Champions League right

[@matthewwelsh294]

@@Nutty_Ba11s Lol, it is a new American Football league in Europe

[@Nutty_Ba11s]

@@matthewwelsh294 so what, we only care about Uefa Champions League lol

[@nwa9325]

@@matthewwelsh294 handegg sucks nobody cares its a sissy ball in Europe lol.

[@Ardkun00]

It's like Taco Bell in Mexico, there are better alternatives already in the region.

[@KRYMauL]

There are better alternatives in the US, too?

[@lnplum]

Well, flag football is a persistently popular niche amateur sport in Germany so there's that.

[@TheLydiaReed]

In the states, flag football is for kids. We play it in physical education/gym class in younger grades. I remember playing it in 3rd-5th grade, so from the ages of 9-11. Adults don't really play flag football here. What is the demographic of the sport in Germany?

[@lazyboy300]

The sport is growing rapidly here in Brazil, specially among urban middle and upper classes. That said, it's easy to see why basketball spread across the globe and american (rugby) football haven't as much. 1. basketball and variations of the game can be easily played anywhere. in any school or public municipal gymnasium, in public multi-sport cement courts spread thru neighborhoods, even in back alleys by fixing a basket to a wall. you can play one against one or two against two or just practice shots. that creates an organic appreciation for the sport in europe and south america. 2. europeans and south american tend to support independent sporting clubs, not franchises of leagues. I Brazil, you can watch a Flamengo vs Fluminense derby with the clubs' basketball teams. You can watch Barça vs Real Madrid in the spanish basketball league, or Barça vs one of the greek clubs in the european championship. Maybe if the NFL had partnered with european clubs they could have done better. An Arsenal vs Bayern Munich american football game could be more natural and engaging that London Monarchs vs Munich Ocktoberfests or something. 3. Play in smaller stadiums. It have worked well for MLS in the US. A packed 20k stadium has a better atmosphere and is a better product for attendees and for TVs than a 2/3 empty 60k stadium. 4. try a version of the game with less commercial breaks. the start/stop nature of play with 40sec intervals between plays is fine. but a 5 min commercial break every 10 minutes is annoying and off-putting. 5. Maybe try to call it something else other than "football". call it "american football", or even "NFL" as a synonym for the sport, But football is already the name of the biggest sport across the world outside of US, Canada and Australia

[@civichoo6017]

Pretty much the only sensible comment on this video

[@ANONYMOUS-gp9bo]

​@@civichoo6017Yeah, yeah. Sensible for an American.

[@civichoo6017]

@@ANONYMOUS-gp9bo Funny how the original comment was made by a Brazilian, isn’t it? Yeah yeah, I guess it’s sensible to other people besides Americans. Second, let me guess: you don’t know a single rule of American football and thus it just seems like a bunch of pointless hitting and running around to you. Stick to your 90-minute 0-0 soccer games with no level of sophistication whatsoever 😂😴😴

[@ANONYMOUS-gp9bo]

@@civichoo6017 So what if he's a brazilian? There are people from America who say football(real one) growing in America. How about it? Yeah,I don’t know about nfl. Is it a Global sport?. And I tried it many times. It is boring. Football is boring to those who have no patience. It is much better than nfl, where most of the time spent on showing ads. It's more a show than a sport. And yes, I will stick to real football which has constant action in a match. Which has intensity, a greater build up to climax.

[@civichoo6017]

@@ANONYMOUS-gp9bo “So what if he’s Brazilian?”-First, you said indicated that his comment only made sense to Americans, but there are people around the world who find American football entertaining once they actually take the time to understand the rules. American football is growing in several countries. Second, thank you for affirming that you don’t understand the rules of American football. “I’ve tried watching the NFL many times”-yes, but you admitted you don’t know what’s going on. It’s not a straightforward sport like basketball or soccer. The sport itself isn’t boring. It’s your lack of comprehending the sport that’s the issue, not the sport. However, maybe you’re not smart enough to understand the rules-in that case, your opinion can be forgiven. Oh, you want to bring up ads? Even the ads in the NFL (and the rest of American sports) are more entertaining than anything that’s ever been done in soccer. Occasionally the so called “athletes” in soccer will flop and act like they’re hurt. I guess you find it entertaining to find grown men crying on the ground. Intensity in soccer? Are you referring to how intense the players ACT like they’re hurt? Honestly some of them put up Oscar worthy performances. “A greater buildup to climax”-lmfao, because a game ending with a 0-0 score is such a great climax. Snooooooooze. Let’s be real. Soccer isn’t a sport. It’s acting.

[@layalumpar4218]

The reason why NFL Europe (later Europa) folded were the German team owners. NFL Europe teams actually had owners, with NFL US providing subsidies. These subsidies were given in the hope that the NFL brand will grow in Europe. That Europeans who watch NFL Europe will be inclined to watch NFL US as well. It actually worked in the 90s. But come 2000s the German team owners were growing tired of having their teams travel a long distance to non-German teams that don't really sell a lot of tickets. The German team owners did their best to have non-German teams fold or relocate to Germany. In mid-2000s, the German team owners even met with then new NFL commissioner Goddel to propose a more streamlined NFL Europe, with only teams from Germany, because they argued it's only profitable in Germany. But Goddel realized their subsidies were so huge just to market the NFL brand in one European country. So he pulled the plug. The German team owners probably had a pikachu face when they were told of Goddel's decision.

[@ShayNoMore1]

Beacause we have good taste

[@k1vd038]

yes Europe has space for sports other than football (soccer for the people living under the rock) unlike the US where only 3 sports are played and the main attraction at those events are the commercials

[@tyvernoverlord5363]

I wish speedball("professional" style paintball) was way more popular than it was. I've only watched one NPPL match on ESPN

[@mattbennett9467]

I think this just goes to show that when it comes to sport, the USA and Europe have rather different tastes. Attempts to grow 'soccer' in the USA have struggled and vice versa. I personally really enjoy watching NFL games (before I had kids and lost 90% of my spare time!), but on the whole cultural divides and partisanship will prevent widespread success in Europe. As long as we can't even agree on who has the rights to the name, there will be little cross over. Hint - we kick the ball 95%, throw it 5. You do it the other way around. Sorry, couldn't resist!!

[@searchingforufos3102]

The uk has the rights to the name, coz we invented it. The uk invented both terms, football and soccer. The usa always has same problem, they try and distance themselves from their own history. But the uk has been around for thousands of years. Not only invented football, but invented the country that now calls it soccer. But usa angst is centuries old. England and ireland been arguing for over 2 thousand years

[@frozengansit0]

they questioned if they could but never questioned if they should

[@DoctorX17]

I still think they should rename it "handegg"

[@KRYMauL]

How about calling it Football seeing as American Football split off before Rugby Football became an actual sport. Also, there's already an European League of Football.

[@DoctorX17]

@@KRYMauL because you play with your hands and the ball is egg shaped :0

[@KRYMauL]

@@DoctorX17 So, Rugby Football isn't a real thing?

[@DoctorX17]

@@KRYMauL could just call it rugby… or rugby handegg

[@KRYMauL]

@@DoctorX17 Considering Football came first, why?

[@oyuyuy]

Maybe I'm crazy, but I'd figure you'd build a sport from the bottom up. Get some people to play the game first and start to broadcast it if it becomes popular? _PS. NFL also seems like a pretty stupid sport to begin with to be frank. Not much elegance in just running and headbutting eachother._

[@rwnd4154]

I get where you’re coming from but if you get to know the sport it is really strategic and interesting to watch. But I understand how someone who doesn’t know the sport can be confused by it. Try watching a game and learn the sport as it can be very interesting. Also I know this sounds condescending but NFL isn’t a sport American Football is a sport and NFL is a league, American Football belongs to the Gridiron family which includes Canadian Football (Which honestly much more interesting to watch because there’s more passing) and Arena football

[@jameslearing970]

American Football isn't just running and headbutting haha. That's like calling soccer just kicking a ball around.

[@iykejnr6296]

@@jameslearing970 watch a soccer player pass the ball or dribble with his feet or defend just watch it

[@jameslearing970]

@@iykejnr6296Why do you assume I don't watch soccer? I watch religiously.

[@civichoo6017]

Soccer/European football seems like a pretty stupid sport to be frank. Not much strategy in a bunch of so-called athletes always flopping whenever they get touched by an opponent.

[@premier69]

well, it's actually that we already have football here played with your feet and we also have rugby (what you confusingly claim to be football).

[@KRYMauL]

Both of these sports are called football, but later were changed to Association Football and Rugby Football. Technically American and Canadian Football are forms of gridiron football which are forms of Rugby that existed before Rugby became a different sport.

[@rostislavsvoboda7013]

An effort like this is the reason why the insurgents don't run out of fighters. Even after 20+ years.

[@taptiotrevizo9415]

Because football isn't hitting it with people who already have football

[@afaxmachine5045]

Yea we have actual football and rugby. We don't need shite rugby

[@KRYMauL]

@@afaxmachine5045 You mean Association Football and Rugby Football, right?

[@47rintin1]

At 1:28 "What are the odds we can air even more football in the springs?" Lady, we already have a bunch of football in Europe. You don't need to tell us anything about it, cause football the game started in England. The student USA doesn't need to tell the teacher Europe.

[@djp1234]

Because it's not football. It's handegg.

[@maikotter9945]

11th November 2021 The European League of Football has its (loyal) spectators. The ELF want to expand from 8 teams now, to 12 teams coming season. The ELF´s name might be confusing, because of UEFA competitions ... and proposed The Super League (Association Football). Rugby is played in Germany aswell. Season 2021 1st place: Frankfurt am Main 2 nd place: Hamburg 3 rd place: Breslau 4 th place: Köln 5 th place: Leipzig 6 th place: Barcelona 7 th place: Berlin 8 th place: Stuttgart planned expanison teams for the Season 2022 Düsseldorf Wien Innsbruck Istanbul

[@jonntischnabel]

I am European, and I am not a football (soccer) fan, I am a big athletic fan. However, I can easily see that our football is way more entertaining to watch than the US version. And anyone who finds that kind of game exciting, already has rugby Union and rugby league to watch. So let's just face it, American football just ain't gonna work here.

[@evilbaron]

Football is Football. Even the Fifa calls it Football (Fédération Internationale de Football Association). So, this so called Soccer (for Football in Europe) or American Football is not right. Maybe the American Sports should think over a new Naming Scheme, like ... maybe Rugby?

[@KRYMauL]

The Brits literally broke the word Association and made it into Soccer, the other term for American Football is gridiron football and it technically predates the modern version of rugby while being a form of rugby football.

[@CjqNslXUcM]

It's more likely that soccer will eventually overtake sports like baseball and ice hockey in the US.

[@mats7492]

Yes!

[@Wulfieman]

Football*. But yes, because of Latin American immigration to the US, football is starting to become a popular sport.

[@Racko.]

Isn't hockey mostly a Canadian thing?

[@lunayen]

@@Racko. Canada and Northern regions of the US, mostly the states that border Canada the most.

[@KRYMauL]

@@Wulfieman Association "Soccer" Football. FIFA literally stands for Fédération Internationale de Football Association.

[@huubhuijbens8816]

The cringe when the call football=soccer, with the accent, and American Football=football. The mistake was that outside North America they can't call American Football=football, seriously. And if you are in Barcelona you must know that you are also in Catelonia, like FC Barcelona is linking the club with the region. They must know what they were doing.

[@ianfinnity2732]

It’s interesting that all American sports are gladiatorial in nature. Baseball, ‘football’, ice hockey. Even golf…last man standing. Romans! Whereas sports in Europe are real team games. Football (real football) is Greek - gay to Americans. It’s Romans v Greeks. Muscle v beauty. That’s why US sports are never going to be exportable to other countries. They are just too boring to anyone outside the US

[@HellDuke-]

I kind of expect a problem with the marketing, because you can't market it just as football due to that market already being taken up by what you call soccer. There is no soccer in Europe, but there is a lot of football. I guess NFL could work because people would not expect actual football, but would understand it's American Football.