Cockpit Mayhem | Air Transat Flight 211

[@jamesgraham6122]

These presentations are truly excellent. As a retired pilot, I would be one of the first to criticise any factual inaccuracies, I've yet to discover one, concise and to the point, professionally constructed. Well Done all round.

[@davidgoodman6924]

"We have clearance Clarence." "Roger, Roger." "What's our vector Victor."

[@MegaJasonic]

LoL! You know, if you watch the video, the problem is really that nobody was flying the plane.

[@Corinne-v9c]

You're too funny! I needed a good laugh this evening.

[@starpawsy]

Shirley you can't be serious?

[@dx1450]

Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?

[@starpawsy]

@@dx1450 Have you ever been in a Turkish prison?

[@ranchopatriot]

Needed a check-check Captain.

[@FlymanMS]

“My name is Captain Check-Check”

[@malcolmwhite6588]

All jokes aside, sometimes they do : in the jumpseat between the two pilots there will often be a “safety pilot”, who is a training captain himself, Usually - his role is to just generally oversee the trainee, and the trainer and make sure that nothing is missed in both the training and for the safety of the flight.

[@malcolmwhite6588]

@@FlymanMS they are usually from Russia, or that part of the world. Called Captain checkoff.😂

[@AnotherPointOfView944]

@@malcolmwhite6588 ... and always takes his children for extra safety.

[@senilyDeluxe]

Would a Czech check captain be sufficient?

[@NalaRichenbach]

The Check Captain made a few mistakes, but he essentially saved the plane and everyone's life.

[@JoshuaGillard-mh9kp]

Yea you have a good point

[@f-xdemers2825]

Well ! I don't want to be saved. I want to be safe ! This was not it.

[@Corinne-v9c]

Thank you. Well said. If Check Captain hadn't intervened, that plane would have definitely crashed. The Check Captain is "redeemable" IMO with some more training, of course. The Trainee Captain shouldn't be allowed to fly again. Maybe he should be a taxi driver or something...but if I knew he was a Captain on a plane I was about to fly on, I'd cancel my flight & reschedule.

[@wes11bravo]

Another banger, Allec Josh! Deep analysis and explication of these incidents is so vital to prevent them from reoccurring - you do this very efficiently in all of your videos.

[@klocknerdeutz]

It is amazing how much trouble can arise from an inadvertent TO/GA activation...

[@StevenBanks123]

“Good morning, ladies and gentlemen to Air Transat. Our pilot in command today is a trainee. Enjoy your flight.” What a mess.

[@mcraft2240]

Trainee captain with a decade of flight experience.

[@StevenBanks123]

@@mcraft2240 You’re right of course… but that unfortunate word “trainee” just resonates. You it and you imagine somebody with a “student driver” bumper sticker on their pants.

[@Corinne-v9c]

My opinion may sound harsh, but that Trainee Captain was just a hot mess dumpster fire. The Check Captain was just a bit more competent than the Trainee Captain. Trainee Captain was as worthless as a tick on a dog. I couldn't believe when I read that the Trainee Captain took back control over the plane after the problem was overcome. If I was the Check Captain I'd have told him, "No. I will continue to fly until this plane lands. You can handle the radio & call-out duties." The Check Captain is redeemable with regards to have a flying career...with more training, of course. The Trainee Captain will repeat mistakes in the future because he doesn't handle stress at all.

[@samcarranza8544]

These videos certainly give an interesting perspective to flying!

[@watchhans]

The perfect example of non-existent Crew Resource Management. That might end fatal.

[@BlueSkyUp_EU]

The incident resulted in adjusting SOP's, so it's more like the perfect example of under optimized SOPs.

[@masamune7844]

I thought I had seen the aircraft registration somewhere before, and this aircraft was used as Air Transat flight 961 which was the incident in 2005 over cuba.

[@Nobilangelo]

The passengers must have been terrified.

[@AnotherPointOfView944]

They were Czech passengers 🤣🤣🤣

[@midgie1166]

Why??

[@s.kirtivasen15699]

🤣💀😝​@@AnotherPointOfView944

[@annetteslife]

The flight attendants must have handed out a few sacks of pampers

[@psalm2forliberty577]

Wow if that's a Training Captain - Sounds like they recruit from - Captain Crunch Cereal Airlines !

[@andrewk2996]

That was the most stressful take off I've watched, and I've seen a lot of Allec's videos. Talk about the stick leading the blind man.

[@KyoushaPumpItUp]

The fact that this doesn't have a wikipedia article, nor is it mentioned in Air Transat's wikipedia page under the accidents section baffles me. I wanted to read more after watching this not gonna lie.

[@AllecJoshuaIbay]

www.tsb-bst.gc.ca/eng/rapports-reports/aviation/2008/a08q0051/a08q0051.html

[@KyoushaPumpItUp]

@@AllecJoshuaIbay THANK YOU!

[@CapitalismSuxx]

@@AllecJoshuaIbay thanks!

[@YanDaOne_QC]

​ Loll that's a fairytale script not an investigation report.

[@merckmaguddayao6814]

Kuya Allec is the Ernie Baron of flight disasters. He knows the obscure, unpublished ones.

[@michaelsimpson2490]

I look forward to Thursdays and my dose of Allec Joshua Ibay

[@burtfisher7059]

why?

[@robbmanchester5747]

Any training to fully plug in your headphones …

[@larrybaker5316]

good one

[@malcolmwhite6588]

Can understand that they were overwhelmed. However, in someways shows that pilots today rely, and I trained too much on automation, and not on hand, flying the most basic stuff, you learn when flying a Cessna is the relationship between climbing, descending and power, and if the control forces are high, then re-trim it should be 100% intuitive specially in airliner where it is a very easy electric trim. You would think where stick forces are great that would be your first instinct. What is frightening to me is when these crews are busy and overwhelmed they actually forget/fail to just fly the aircraft in the most basic way. The stories like this, that have become heroic, such as the Sully, story Gimli glider taca airlines on the levy-There’s a numerous others are pilots, who, actually not only able to stay calm, but have excellent stick and rudder skills still.

[@bobhead6243]

Well put together my Friend ! .

[@phugoid]

This can happen to the best; it was just bad luck that it did for the PIC with another chap behind him watching - whose inputs, incidentally, were handy and prevented an accident!

[@dennysmith5284]

He always the best and most accurate. Kudos to you.

[@2140BlackCreek]

My question is, how did the trainee captain make it through the simulator phase of the training. It is apparent the trainee had little if any situational awareness and seriously acked aircraft operational knowledge.

[@FlymanMS]

For some reason it reminded me of “Samir, listen to my calls!”

[@asteverino8569]

Coincidence, unrealistic assumptions and bad luck. Glad they did not become another fatal accident flight.

[@Philobeddoe12]

An air trainee captain flying 89 passengers in snowy conditions. Makes perfect sense to me.

[@waynejpark560]

You don’t know enough about aviation to comment. How would you suggest a new Captain be assessed & checked?

[@donnabaardsen5372]

​@@waynejpark560 I suggest they train in empty aircraft, not one full of passengers.

[@waynejpark560]

@@donnabaardsen5372 You obviously don’t know how the industry works, so maybe don’t comment as if you do. You just look foolish.

[@csolivais1979]

​@@donnabaardsen5372trainee captains still have a lot of flight experience. Not like they plucked him off the street the day before.

[@theMoerster]

@@donnabaardsen5372 He was a trainee CAPTAIN...not a trainee pilot. He'd been flying for Air Canada for over a decade as a First Officer including 4 years on this type.

[@ryanlund7220]

Automation is your friend until it isn't.

[@maxtornogood]

Amazing what can happen when something comes ever so slightly detached!

[@arturo468]

This was almost a catastrophe back in 2008. Imagine how serious things could get now with a pilot shortage and widespread DEI hiring in airlines and ATC. Take the bus or train is my advice (Retired ATP)

[@mikedriggers3635]

89 people had no idea how close to death they were. 2 knuckleheads in command. 😮

[@billmcg1676]

Million dollar flying machine, 2 experienced pilots, a routine take-off goes FUBAR because the pilot's headset became unplugged?!? 😮 Did they add a headset checklist item to the take off checklist?? 😅

[@wobblybobengland]

happened with a dodgy seat too, Air India Express Flight 611, hit a wall

[@naknaksdadn572]

The only thing malfunctioning were the pilots.

[@dx1450]

The problem was a loose nut behind the control yoke.

[@apogaeum4313]

So 2 professionals fought against this brave airbus. Airbus won.

[@bobmillerick300]

I thought they "bugged" those speeds. Even in a glass cockpit they can set those speeds.

[@pomerau]

It was descending rapidly though .... isn't that the holy grail of attention grabbers during the take off climb out? They were only aiming for 3,000ft I know. I'll be honest, I thought this was going to hit dirt when I saw it go below 1,000 ft on the excellent graphics here. I was trying to remember such a catatrophy. In the end, my empathy only went out to the aircraft after a long life. BTW did the A310 have sidesticks or yokes? I can never get my head around why there's strong physical forces needed on a fly by wire system.

[@The12348567]

Love your videos. Would it be possible to know if the crews in volved in sucessful landings are still flying.

[@5roundsrapid263]

Airbus jets can have runaway trim too? I thought that was just a Boeing feature!

[@mikek8377]

Is the trainee captain not an experienced co-pilot before this? If so, why does it seem like they become all thumbs and mush for brains?

[@waynejpark560]

Another armchair quarterback….

[@slidefirst694]

​@@waynejpark560Hopefully you will be a passenger on such a flight that doesn't make it

[@saragreen4578]

@@slidefirst694 😮

[@Corinne-v9c]

@@waynejpark560 wth? What do you think the comment section is for? To just give flowery compliments? That Trainee Captain went TO PIECES when the stress got high & that plane would've crashed if it weren't for the intervention of the Check Captain.

[@waynejpark560]

@@slidefirst694 Same to you.

[@b.t.356]

How not to fly a passenger jet: Step 1: Be the trainee captain of this flight

[@treefrog1962]

These two should never have been allowed to fly anything but a Cessna 150 and only in VFR.

[@jmWhyMe]

The complex Bus AP strikes again, along with lots of human errors...

[@bullseyes1983]

I guess someone will never get that fourth bar 😅

[@dx1450]

And I think the check captain should have lost one...

[@toddkallenbach3904]

no technology will ever overcome human incompetence

[@astrabelmont]

A 1992 A310 with winglets ('sharklets')?

[@AnotherPointOfView944]

Would have thought that after a minute or so they would have noticed a lack of communication between the two of them via headsets. "Lips move, I can't hear what your saying" to paraphrase.

[@2760ade]

He was only coming through in waves?😂

[@BREEEZE1023]

New subsciber po bait ng tatay nyo po .

[@richardnagarjunasuryaprase2010]

11:37 it's Adam air flight 574 not flight 571

[@WendyKS93]

I'm wondering if maybe both of these pilots needed more training.

[@keithcolwell1706]

Why did the trainee captain turn off the autopilot a few seconds after the check captain engaged it? Who was right?

[@Corinne-v9c]

I'm wondering the same thing & maybe I missed something, but it seems that detail was never addressed.

[@kronos5385]

The Airbus A310 has a control column? I thought all Airbus planes used the Joystick control.

[@dehavillandcanadatwinotter9621]

Not until the A320 they made that change. A300 and A310 were still yoke.

[@BillGreenAZ]

These are great snow graphics. Well done, Allec!

[@AnotherPointOfView944]

??

[@richardgeorge3136]

Did they both keep their jobs ?😮

[@r.o.1330]

....i've got to think there were some upset passengers on this flight!

[@QuaintMelissaK]

I don’t think the trainee pilot passed the check.

[@mmburgess11]

almost felt like the Boeing engineers were collaborating with Airbus for a minute.....

[@keith3970]

And now...let's hear from the experts

[@thomaspiedmont]

C-GPAT was the same plane that suffred the incident of Flight 961 😳

[@rotor-head]

V1 and Vr are bugged. The flying pilot should have had enough SA to rotate at Vr. What's the back story that the trainee was so weak ?

[@oldbird-zm8qt]

"Sonny. That was close". I find near miss incidents like this just as interesting. Sadly, with the current push to lower admission standards in order to fill "diversity" quotas, we will likely have a lot more like this soon.

[@adamfarzad2319]

The control column was unusable…due to the trim was in complete oposite direction…..this is why they couldnt move it…the 310 is a dangerous aircraft the most dedliest……..

[@pauldow1648]

Almost most incidents on earth and it's space are human factored.

[@crocetti4643]

Did they fly without auto-pilot?

[@peggyl2849]

I was wondering about why it would have been turned off, but maybe when the TO/GA was inadvertently activated, that disengages the autopilot? Maybe it wasn't deliberately disengaged.

[@Corinne-v9c]

@@peggyl2849 the video stated the Trainee Captain turned the autopilot off a few seconds after the Check Captain engaged it. This part of this flight I don't think was addressed again & it leaves me with more questions.

[@briancarno8837]

did he pass his check ride?

[@Houndini]

What are the odds of both pilots having a terrible Monday on the job at the same time? They both should have kissed Mother Earth upon landing.

[@DrMatey215]

Flying in inclement weather always makes me nervous. This situation described in the video was complicated and involved. Luckily the pilots had a guardian angel.

[@lisablack2389]

Yes the guardian angel was Jesus!

[@YanDaOne_QC]

A fairytale that never happened

[@riogrande5761]

Was that pilot IFR rated? How about the check pilot. The emergency is the captain trainee needs more training. That is nuts.

[@ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid]

This one definitely had the beginnings of a "everyone on board is killed". Glad it didn't work out that way! SPOILER ALERT: The comment above contains spoilers. If you don't want to know about it, you shouldn't have read the comment. 👍

[@dx1450]

Does this mean the check captain also failed the check ride?

[@johntaylor5968]

Let’s just face ❤it SO MUCH CAN GO WRONG and when it does you’re usually toast.

[@andrewthomas5348]

Is it unusual to train someone during a snowstorm? Just wondering. Maybe it's considered routine in Canada?

[@SKF358]

Where's the narrator?

[@badgerbait8351]

An airport named Trudeau. What a nightmare.

[@slidefirst694]

Named for the father of the current communist puppet dictator.

[@analtubegut66]

Better than being named "The ones who stand with the swastika"

[@theresacaron4238]

Stepfather of the current dictator whose real dad has a different name.

[@LuchinoBruttomesso]

Nice

[@nancyhilliard267]

Why would you have a trainee fly a plane on a snowy day?

[@70mavgr]

How can a trainee captain be so incompetent?

[@Madskills810]

Dumb and Dumber

[@JohnJohansen2]

I would wish you gave me half, or even a whole second extra time to read the text! Please.

[@journeystarr]

🤦‍♀️

[@anandguruji83]

Cockpit Mayhem | Air Transat Flight 211

[@anandguruji83]

Cockpit Mayhem | Air Transat Flight 211

[@petuniaskunk2316]

As always…

[@NateCraven318]

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[@vxllfire]

This guy needs to stop

[@NateCraven318]

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