Freefall | Qantas Flight 72

[@RobertB56]

One thing about Qantas is that their pilots are first class their pilots are constantly assessed and do lots of SIM training there is a reason they haven't had a crash its because of this attitude they have to keeping their pilots up to date, I know this because my daughter is a Qantas Captain.

[@ghs7714]

I am pretty sure i dated her

[@pixelpro707]

But do the same rules apply to John Travolta?

[@PInk77W1]

So awesome your daughter is a QANTAS Capt.

[@matthewmc1165]

My dad's a Qantas executive manager.

[@artistjoh]

Robert Bartley Lucky daughter flying for QANTAS. I need to correct you on something. QANTAS has stellar training and quality of pilots but it is not true that they have never crashed. It is a common myth, but there was a time when QANTAS was relatively dangerous and after 5 bad accidents in 1953 government funds were invested into developing safety systems including the modern black box, pilot training, maintenance etc. They have not killed anyone in an accident since then but before that there were many deaths (over 60 deaths) and even an aircraft shot down with loss of all aboard during World War II. The early days of aviation were extremely dangerous and as a very old airline QANTAS could not avoid fatal crashes along with all other airlines at that time. What sets QANTAS apart is the extraordinary efforts they and the Australian aviation industry put into aviation safety since 1953.

[@MEugeneDavis]

I just want to say thank you. There are a lot of us disabled veterans and others that live on less than a thousand dollars a month. I cannot afford to donate, but I can say thank you. I enjoy these videos. I was one of the first avionics techs on the F-15 back in the 70s and as a civilian in 1983 I was working for Mc Donnell Aircraft at Edwards AFB on the F-15 ASAT program.

[@emiliofernandez7117]

Michael Davis 👍🏻

[@cancelanime1507]

Thanks for serving!

[@Eric-kn4yn]

​​​@@cancelanime1507 $250 a week $1k a month im australian and our govt pays more than that to vets im sure disability support pensioners here get aus$ 2k a month in 2024 and endless concessions and rent subsidies ok

[@supernautcensus5689]

Had a few proposals for future episodes: - United Airlines Flight 173 - Aeroperú Flight 603 - British European Airways Flight 548 - Southern Airways Flight 242 Thanks for all the hard work you do to make these vids.

[@amalayperson7208]

That's great

[@WASIURPA]

173 is???

[@supernautcensus5689]

@@WASIURPA en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_173 United Flight 173 was a flight from NYC to Portland, Oregon with a stopover in Denver on December 28, 1978. The aircraft involved was a DC-8-61. During the preparations for landing in Portland, the landing gear malfunctioned after one of the retracting assemblies failed due to corrosion. The landing gear was completely lowered, but the malfunction damaged a circuit to the cockpit which prevented the green light indicating the landing gear was down from lighting up. Because the plane was landing at night and the pilots couldn't visually check to see if the landing gear was down, they entered a holding pattern and for the next hour attempted to troubleshoot the issue and make sure the landing gear was down. During this time, the crew failed to properly monitor the fuel levels. After an hour passed, one by one, the 4 engines on the DC-8 flamed out from fuel exhaustion. The plane subsequently crash landed in a residential area of Portland 6 miles southeast of the airport. 10 of the 189 people on board were killed, and 24 were injured. The subsequent investigation by the NTSB placed a great deal of blame for the disaster on the cockpit crew and their breakdown of resource management and loss of situational awareness, somewhat similar circumstances to what caused the crash of Eastern Airlines Flight 401. This crash, along with the crash of Eastern Airlines Flight 401 and the Tenerife disaster, had a significant influence on the airline industry, particularly the training of airline crewmembers, and played a major role in influencing the subsequent development of Cockpit Resource Management.

[@chesvvick]

I would also add Taca 110 and the Seattle Sky King

[@meeseeksswirls4361]

my uncles wife was on aero peru flight 603

[@hattrickster33]

This shows why removing humans from the cockpit will never be a good idea.

[@byronharano2391]

Stupid computer! Flawed software that cannot compensate for multiple failures and sometimes no override systems for the aircraft. At the mercy of a non living computer that won't save itself .

[@billgund4532]

I've always maintained eliminating the flight engineer was a bad move. The pilots should be concentrating on flying the airplane. The FE can be analyzing the systems failure(s).

[@mdot100]

Amen OCB! Amen...

[@byronharano2391]

@@billgund4532 what is frightening Bill is how the aircraft "decided" to ignore the pilots flight control inputs to "nose up" by continuing to lower the nose. Scary a computer can override the master at the controls.

[@billgund4532]

@@byronharano2391 There has to lbe some kind of pilot over ride. Unfortunately all the glass panels, computers, fly by wire crap is intertwined. Bring back analog gauges and real piloting skills. And the flight engineer too!

[@demonjunkie6588]

an alec video with a happy ending... today is a happy day!

[@Bevity]

⚡️SPOILER⚡️ I thought for sure it would crash, but I am so happy it didn't. I have so much respect for pilots.

[@Tuneman1984]

Knowing it's a Qantas flight acts as kind of a spoiler. Qantas has never had a fatal accident in the jet age; their last fatal crash was in 1951.

[@mdot100]

@@Tuneman1984 I was about to say the same thing, I NEVER heard of a Qantas crash!

[@mwbgaming28]

in Australia we have a saying Qantas never crashes mate

[@byronharano2391]

Thank God this occurred at crusing altitude 37K Feet; this flight did not run out of verticle space to recover. Keep seatbelt reasonably feasted snugged at all stages of flight for this very reason. Enjoy flying everyone. Thank you Kuya Allec

[@Bevity]

Maybe I'll go to Australia some day and know for sure the plane won't crash. Well, it might. There might be that one fluke... but I have great respect for pilots AND Qantas.

[@kevincole2484]

Glad the pilots made the right decision to land and the nearest airports and didn't trust the autopilot completely like some pilots.

[@doubledutch6317]

Kevin Cole Can allec make a video of mh 17

[@donaldbadowski290]

With the recent news about the 737 Max 8, this sounds scary familiar.

[@valeriegriner5644]

Yes...sounds very similar to me, too.

[@saa82vik]

I wonder if any commentator made the connection between the 737 max and this incident. And now I see why Airbus it's not really gloating on the 737 thing.

[@scottoakley3206]

@@saa82vik Airbus has planted many airplanes in the ground through the years because of crazy automation errors. You're right they should not make a peep!

[@packingten]

@@saa82vik You mean like "Mr Badowski",He probably works for Airbus and wants to give Boeing a black eye,@Least the pilot still controls Boeings and not a computer!.

[@michael931]

@@packingten No. He is just observing the blatantly obvious.

[@rrknl5187]

Many years ago, when cockpit automation first came on the scene, a lot of us pilots were afraid that stuff like this would happen. A lot of us old-timers still believe that a human pilot should always be able to override the computer, never the other way around.

[@bobgetsy3135]

rr they could have shut of adiru 1. that is how the other flights handled it.

[@robvoyles]

@@bobgetsy3135 they could get rid of all the over--- automated controls and let humans fly the plane unless they think humans can't fly, if thats the case then taking a boat or a train may be the way to go.

[@BillClay88]

@@robvoyles That's ridiculous. This is where we're heading. Far more planes have been saved by automation than not. You don't think car crashes and highway deaths have and will decrease with more and more safety and redundancy? Computer glitches unfortunately will always happen and so won't accidents just not as much.

[@kirilmihaylov1934]

@@BillClay88 like 737 MAX

[@anttitheinternetguy3213]

@@BillClay88 dude, computers are never Gonna be as flexible and aware of the actual situation as mk. 1 humans. Sure computers can be and are thousand times More accurate than humans but they are never to be trusted. Im all For trusting a Pilot in emergency rather than computer

[@justicewarrior9187]

YESSSSSSS It landed safely! Finally some good news on this channel.. These videos put my heart jumping

[@kevmed64]

This is actually same type of problem as 737 MAX - just different aircraft/manufacturer. The AoA sensor is spewing corrupt data and the automated anti-stall system is reacting by trimming the stabilizer to a nose-down pitch. The BIG difference is that this happened at 37K feet - not shortly after takeoff at low altitude like both the 737 MAX disasters. The good news is that apparently the "software fix" worked with the Airbus - hopefully Boeing's proposed software fix will work with the MAX. My commentary: Let the pilot's pilot - too much automation!

[@GGoblin1]

Is the 737 Max 8 design inherently flawed? As they had to place the new engines further forward - hence the plane exhibits strange behaviour? I thought the MCAS system was placed to correct this.

[@kevmed64]

John Kurian Sure MCAS is supposed to prevent the MAX’s Tendency to slightly pitch nose-up due to the engine forward orientation, but it’s only as good as the AoA sensor data - if the data is bad, MCAS is bad. The new proposed fix will take in data from BOTH AoA sensors (instead of just one) and compare the data - if the data doesn’t jive, MCAS shuts off. Sounds like a good fix but they also need to add the dashboard MCAS indicator light, and have much more thorough training which of course will be obvious with all the global attention to this issue. I joke that MCAS is a really stupid Hal 9000 That thinks it’s saving the airplane but is too dumb to realize it’s doing just the opposite. I predict once they implement the fixes the problems will go away.

[@Castdeath]

Kevin Medeiros It actually considers both sensors, but it takes the worst of the two making the redundancy effectively useless.

[@MarkWilliams-ix1qf]

Not flawed but different from earlier 737s. Boeing hid new characteristic, tendency to pitch up at full power, due to higher thrust and forward mounting of new engines. To aid sales, Boeing said no new pilot training needed, but sadly that was false. Boeing fix was software forcing pitch down. Worked Ok - unless faulty AOA sensor fooled software to force pitch down mistakenly. Caused vertical dive. Pilots untrained about new software, so unable to recover. Lives lost due to greed. Shame on Boeing. Fix is easy - more pilot training, and software patch and warning lights.

[@tomstravels520]

Wrong. The AOA sensor was fine on this aircraft. It was the ADIRU that was faulty but a faulty ADIRU alien was not the cause of the dive. It was just the reason for all the warnings and stall/overspeed

[@dbaider9467]

Lesson learned - always keep buckled in. Loosen a bit after take off for comfort, just keep it on...

[@enterpriseist]

Damn!... I really like these videos! Good job Allec!

[@ThunderGhost93]

Thank you so much Allec... Finally you have uploaded it

[@ThunderGhost93]

You have seen why 2 times it got pitched down

[@davidbuschhorn6539]

My dad was a Captain for American (out of BWI) and taught me that any time you're in your seat, wear your seat belt. The number one injury from turbulence is a broken neck when you skyrocket into the ceiling headfirst. Flight attendants get it badly if they're up and serving people :(

[@MrTrazz09]

Somewhat related to 737max issues recently..incorrect AOA reading, computer takes corrective action by pitching the nose down..

[@cooperedwards9055]

tracy tisoy exactly what I was thinking... Boeing has only been bashed because of the timing of the faults in its TCAS system. Had a similar fault occurred during takeoff for an airbus A330 or Boeing’s TCAS failure occurring at 37,000 feet, each airplane manufacturer would be viewed quite differently by the public. People that chalk up Boeing’s 2 crashes involving the 737 MAX 8 as “corporate greed” don’t realize that neither computers nor the people that program them are perfect!

[@Milesco]

@@cooperedwards9055 MCAS, not TCAS. As for corporate greed, the problem is that in order to increase sales, Boeing didn't tell anyone about the new system, in order to convince airlines that no additional pilot training was necessary. Also a major corner was cut by only using data from _one_ Angle of Attack sensor instead of both to inform the onboard computer of the plane's attitude.

[@KaranThakur927]

Didn't this same kind of nose pitching down problem happen on the recent Lionair 610 crash

[@inezg1867]

Karan Thakur too bad lion air did not survive, their attitude was too low.

[@hshs5756]

The official report isn't out on that accident yet, but Juan Browne covers the details extremely well here, as only an airline pilot can: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYfQoKJomdxnpbc

[@danieldu1026]

It was because of the trim setting not the autopilot

[@byronharano2391]

@@inezg1867 😥 yes, if only that flight was also at 37K feet the outcome been different.

[@TheProPilot]

@@danieldu1026 the autopilot didn't have any factor in either aircraft. Different function and system.

[@jayrussell1825]

"Ladies and Gentleman, I am Hal 9000 and I am in control of this aircraft now. Daisy Daisy give me your answer do..."

[@Milesco]

"I know I've made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal..."

[@colombianguy8194]

Epic reference!!!

[@craftpaint1644]

"Calling me wrong is obviously due to human error"

[@mwbgaming28]

and Qantas still held the record for quite a while as the worlds safest airline due to having no fatalities or aircraft hull losses since the start of the jet age

[@mwbgaming28]

@@amalayperson7208 at least christians dont go around bombing random buildings or crashing cars into crowds of people also FYI im atheist not christian dont assume things snowflake

[@mwbgaming28]

@@amalayperson7208 im not changing my profile picture just because someone is triggered by it i dont care if you are muslim, christian, atheist or the king of england im keeping my profile picture suck it up snowflake

[@mwbgaming28]

yeah exactly, didnt think you had an answer to that move along bitch

[@WASIURPA]

Ouch

[@WASIURPA]

@@mwbgaming28 OHHH

[@rjb073]

This is a good example of why passengers that are not up and going to the lavatory need to stay buckled. "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." -Ben Franklin-

[@aflacduckquack]

Thanks for a fine vid, Allec. I like the ones with drama where everyone survives...

[@JJDigitalartStudio]

Maybe planes are getting too smart for our own good. When the computer tells the controls of the plane what to do it must be spot on. If not even the pilots cannot override some of these more advanced systems. There should be a computer override to manual. I believe most pilots can fly a plane without the aid of a computer. The computers are supposed to make up for human error not be the cause of it.

[@fins59]

Well said, that is so right. Every single computer I have ever owned has crashed or died at some point.

[@colinsacks8200]

A late friend of mine, a veteran DC-10 pilot, said that computers are leading pilots not to be able to fly the planes they're responsible for. He died of natural causes at 96.

[@JJDigitalartStudio]

@@colinsacks8200I truly believe that. I have been working with computers since the late 60's when they took up an entire floor. Now I can do most all of that 20 times faster on a laptop. Which is fine but even in cars people should know how to look and not depend on their onboard computers to think for them.

[@johntechwriter]

No Airbus can be flown manually. The pilots no longer have direct input into the hydraulics that operate the control surfaces. All the pilots can do is give commands to the computer through their joysticks and other devices. The computer INTERPRETS the pilots' input along with many other sources of information, including the faulty sensor that almost brought down this plane.

[@JJDigitalartStudio]

@@johntechwriter You make my point perfectly. Why have pilots then, just to make the passengers feel better? I am sure with current tech the voice of a real pilot with inflection and emotion could be used to tell them that everything will be ok. JUST before they crash.

[@dafatty8472]

Those holes in the ceiling tho 😳🤕

[@BipoIarbear]

Tabletop Gear I thought same , must have been like hitting a car head on with your face 😳

[@peterlovett5841]

Makes you realise why they recommend leaving your seatbelt on. But, no, people think it is safe to unlatch them - idiots. Stop and think - why is it a requirement that if someone is in a control seat they must have the seatbelt latched - there is a reason for it.

[@treylem3]

Tabletop Gear "tho"? Why add the word 'tho' to a sentence? Not trying to be grammer police, it just seems lazy, and sounds ghetto. The point is well made without the word 'tho'. Peace

[@treylem3]

Tabletop Gear "tho" ?

[@billyboy6028]

@@treylem3 Why critique an abbreviation commonly used when commenting on KZbin to save time "tho" ?

[@arthurgarbuio]

Had a proposals to your future episodes: - Japan Airlines Flight 471 - VARIG Flight 254 - TAM Flight 402 - Aerolíneas Argentinas Flight 322 - 1976 Zagreb mid-air collision Your air crashes videos are AMAZING

[@RooBar64]

In Australia, since this incident in 2008, passengers are now advised to keep their seat belts fastened throughout the entire flight where practicable, which they do. Do other countries still put on the "free to unbuckle and walk around" light on? Just wondering.

[@tomstravels520]

That light going out just means you can get up if you need to. If it’s on then nobody can get up

[@igotanM16]

This is why you ALWAYS keep your seat belt on unless you're going to the lavatory. You never know when crap like this is going to happen.

[@baraxor]

Whenever I have to move around in the cabin, I always think of the nautical rule of "one hand for the ship and one hand for yourself", being aware that turbulence could pitch me right up to the ceiling at any time.

[@davidsteininger9694]

Sullenburger and Sullivan: Damn we need more Sullys!

[@StevenBanks123]

The initial pitch-down was more violent than shown in the re-enactment, as shown by the photos of head-sized holes punched in the overhead.

[@gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043]

To me, it’s really scary when the problem can’t be identified, even by the expert problem identifiers. This is one reason why the Boeing camp says Airbus is inherently more dangerous because of their computer systems.

[@Dana_Danarosana]

...and then Boeing added MCAS to the 737 Max...

[@yourlocalskoda4860]

@@Dana_Danarosana Boeing: Airbus isn't safe don't purchase it Me: Thats where you're wrong Kiddo

[@timmi2198]

Boeings most latest release crashed just a couple of months earlier due to the same reason

[@Dana_Danarosana]

@@timmi2198 That's what I was referring to... Boeing and Airbus both make wonderful aircraft. But sometimes the technology gets ahead of the humans and causes trouble. This also happened on Scandinavian 751. MD-81 was a new plane in the DC-9 series. The pilots mishandled an ice ingestion incident as they had no idea the new planes had automatic throttle restoration. The best pilots in the world can't handle a technology issue if they don't know the technology exists. Thank goodness these guys got everyone down safely.

[@flipnap2112]

@@Dana_Danarosana yeah, its sort of like taking a car off of cruise control and the car thinks the cruise control must be broken so it speeds up.. too many layers of protection strips the pilots of their control. scary

[@BigYabai]

I like watching these Qantas videos because I know they'll make it in the end.

[@6omega2]

Every time I watch one of these things, and imagine myself in the captain's seat, I think "yep, I would have shit myself."

[@Tellyfive]

So it descended so rapidly people went into freefall and hit the ceiling?

[@MrTassadarzo]

Freefall would be 0 g (zero times the gravitational pull of earth), and the passengers would simply be weightless. To strike the ceiling that hard would require negative g force, probably between -0.5 and -1.0 g (because the Airbus A330, like most commercial aircraft, cannot handle more than -1 g). In this case, flight recorders showed -0.8g during the pitch-down event, which is very near the structural limitation of the aircraft. A few more degrees pitch down and the wings could have folded.

[@daleslover2771]

MrTassadarzo Sir can you imagine the impact that I took to break those panels like that,

[@thamnosma]

MrTassadarzo very informative and frightening. Should have been included in the video to explain that cabin damage and how close they were to disaster. Without seeing your comment I just imagined an event similar to severe turbulence.

[@MrTassadarzo]

@@daleslover2771 Holy mackerel! You were on that plane?! It must have been so terrifying, especially when it started to pitch down the second time.

[@daleslover2771]

MrTassadarzo no guy, wasent on the plane, I cant find anything humorous about an event taking place like that where people, lives hung in the balance,,, between life and death.

[@14stOfDynamite]

I take approx 90 flights a year. GOTTA stop watching these....😱

[@suekelley2109]

Craig Willoughby I know! I have to fly into LaGuardia from Houston next month and I have to stop watching these or ask my dr for Xanax!

[@yourfukinjealousymademefamous]

you take 90 flights a year. wow !!... have you ever asked the pilots if the Earth is flat or to show you flat earth flight paths ?

[@14stOfDynamite]

@@yourfukinjealousymademefamous not really Let the pilots concentrate on flying to avoid crashing into the glass dome! Or something.

[@yourfukinjealousymademefamous]

@@14stOfDynamite u think u r funny. u dont know fuckall

[@yourfukinjealousymademefamous]

@@14stOfDynamite kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGXIo4Opi6mLabs

[@derbagger22]

Interesting watching this again now with the 737 MAX catastrophes...

[@waptek2]

thats what brought me here

[@prudentonelee440]

I've got to stop watching these videos, or I'll never step on another plane again.

[@SergeantExtreme]

0:15 "In command is Captain Kevin Sullivan." Is it just me, or are a lot of badass hero pilots who save the day named "Sully"?

[@michael33145]

As i watch, this very aircraft is on a flight from hong kong to melbourne

[@ted.angell7609]

This video shows why they recommend you always keep your seatbelt fastened. Apparently those holes in the ceiling were made with passengers' heads. Ouch.

[@williameggleton414]

To answer Allec's question about the faulty data cause, it turns out the mechanics of ADIRU 1 had a previously unknown and undetected flaw considering its usage range. The malfunction of QF72 was a unique and whole new problem to not just Airbus but the aviation world itself.

[@treylem3]

"The root of the problem was never determined", and the plane continued in service?

[@arisdelis1]

Lies!!!! the.root of problem was a computer glitch with either, the speed indicator or wrong data from the CPU making the autopilot nose down...im sure these were corrected "discretely"...to avoid legal proceedings from injured passengers...This is where Govt. ie FAA and NTSB MUST step in and drop the hammer on Quantas and ScareBus..

[@christopherscobie]

No description of pitch down during incident. At 2:50. Confusingly

[@kirilmihaylov1934]

the pilots were cool and reacted good on the problem ...but some pilots couldn't avert disaster from faulty sensors...there are a lot of primers for that ....the last one 2 months ago with JTa610...

[@zoopop22]

Allec, a coworker and i had to autorotate on to a busy highway in san antonio a few years back...fyi.

[@FoolAndHisMoney23]

In the photo, the plane went off the runway and the nose gear collapsed. Why no mention of that?

[@rogerhuber3133]

Did the nose landing gear collapse? The shot of it on the ground sure seems like the fuselage is on the ground.

[@jemfingers1]

so glad it didnt crash and well done the pilots for not panicking!

[@Nash1a]

How did they get from 37,000 feet to 690 feet before regaining control? I keep thinking you've left off a couple of digits there.

[@tuachee8523]

Yes, the WCK should be invoked prior to the ODD. Ball, the pilot should have activated his RUB and BBISH b4 his BS indicator came on. That would avoid the necessity for KMA and allow the plane’s WRCUX t? self correct. Instead his CWC screen was telling him to OIDD first. That meant Captain Ball had to get his First Officer to handle the RYVZ while he pulled the side bar to get the plane back to 37,000 ft. The only problem was the the VVD was not responding and so the Second Officer had to manually operate the TSTK. I tell you, this was a real emergency. This notations here spell it out extremely clearly. Just as well we viewers have CTM4 to guide us. Otherwise we wouldn’t make any sense of what was going on. Thanks a lot to the System ASS which was a built-in devise for understanding the description of a plane’s emergency situation. Great video, esp with the YYKT. TqFU for the explanation.

[@rogueplanet13]

Geez that things still flying the skies every day

[@geoffhill6992]

qantas has STILL not lost a passenger in a crash - in the modern jet age from circa 1958 onwards that is deeply impressive

[@proofbox]

In this situation my question is, can the aircraft be switched to full manual control that disables all computer control and does not hinder any manual control inputs ,. I understand Airbus products are highly automated and this has caused some problems in the past causing the flight crews to forget how to fly a airplane . Or in a Aeroflot crash { The kid in the cockpit ] turns off half of the autopilot , if this aircraft had been fully automated it would have just crashed .

[@leonardgibney2997]

This seems similar to what occurred on the Boeing T-max 737s recently.

[@TheAntonismat]

is this similar happened to lion air jt610?

[@chanio1179]

No, it is not. Lion Air crashed, this one didn't.

[@ichhasseamerika]

I like these videos much more than the ones on TV called "crash site investigation" on National Geographic . Because these ones a plane can have problems and still land with everyone surviving.

[@2wMaliman]

There were a lot of "head holes" in the ceiling. Probably should have switched seatbelts on when things started malfunctioning..

[@pjnovayo]

To be fair, it’s not like they knew the plane would pitch down so quickly and have passengers be thrown upward so violently. Though I can see your point.

[@TheProPilot]

I get what you're saying. Try being at the controls of a plane that decides to not respond to pitch commands. Then see how fast you even remember that there are pax back there. IJS.

[@2wMaliman]

Ahh, but those planes are so senselessly reliant on automation. I just think as soon as that sort of cascade malfunction happened, he should have flipped seat belts on as a precaution, is all. He responded fine otherwise.

[@rogerkearns8094]

Looks as though passengers literally went through the ceiling. I think I might fly with seat belt permanently fastened from now on.

[@Maplelust]

you should have been doing that anyways wtf.

[@ThunderGhost93]

Hey Allec The root cause was I guess 2 binary codes interchanged themselves when angle of attack sensors was inspected....

[@Chicory-Cat69]

I always wear my seatbelts, but it takes me a little longer to go to the bathroom that when I am about to get up, turbulence.....

[@Santiago-lb5md]

Beautiful addon that you got there! Where did you get it??

[@Santiago-lb5md]

@@theesotericenvoy5694 OK, Thanks

[@stephennina]

What a blessing that everyone survived! Did the interior structural damage come from the luggage or persons tossed about?

[@hshs5756]

It was passengers hitting the cabin ceiling hard enough with their heads to punch through... NOT good for your cervical vertebrae. Keeping your seat belt on at all times is cheap insurance.

[@stephennina]

@@hshs5756 Wow! Thank you!

[@muhammadfathin483]

I'm Request Episode: 1.Lion Air JT610 2.Adam Air KI574 3.Mandala Airlines RI091 4.Sukhoi Superjet 100 In Salak Mount 9-5-2012 5.Merpati Xian MA60 Accident 2011 & 6.China Airlines 120.

[@esathegreat]

How is the software in a plane like this updated,via usb stick?

[@josegranelcarreto5366]

Cada vez hay más accidentes por fallo en el software y los pilotos no pueden pasar a manual. Y cuando pasan a manual siguen sin poder controlar la aeronave. Gracias a estos pilotos y la profesionalidad y servicio de esta compañía, no pasó nada más grave. Saludos desde Barcelona, España

[@barbarakratsios7836]

This is one example of the setbacks of computer technology. Thankfully, this situation did not end up in a crash--due to the pilots' quick thinking and skills. Machines can NEVER replace the human mind.

[@tomstravels520]

It was a human mind who designed the algorithm that had a flaw in it that allowed the dive to happen

[@Ktaurus26]

Isn’t this the same thing that happened to the Air France flight the following year?

[@robertbrandywine]

No, there the air speed sensors reported inaccurate data.

[@lyzario1602]

These pictures at the end make me cry

[@video99couk]

Just a reminder to always wear your seatbelt unless there's a very good reason not to.

[@jeffbarr5714]

I remember this happening and knew that some people received serious injuries but thanks to the crew the lane was landed safely. I travel quite a bit and will never understand why some people ignore the advice of the crew. In this case keep your seat belt fastened if not moving about the cabin. I'd say many of the injuries may not have occurred, particularly being thrown up against the ceiling of the aircraft.

[@asifiqbal3018]

So Much 4 The Spirit of Australia!

[@IntellectualHazard]

I saw this in Air Crash Investigation and the cabin scene was really horrifying!! Is your birthday on 3rd Jan?? Cause mine is also the same

[@MuhammadShahid-ch4cq]

My Birthday is 3rd January

[@vinjuconhye2930]

My birthday is 3rd January 2003

[@dedemenze8015]

Everyone survived! And the kangaroo on the tail is super cool.

[@eliteschaf5697]

A really good crew with much talent.

[@Aeros-it2vj]

this is not the flight channel, this is a channel with a very old fsx

[@alexandernicolaiveloso1530]

That overspeed/ warning on a a330 is a 767 overspeed/ warning not an a330 warning

[@chrisworthen1538]

I never take my belt off while flying, watched some people learn the hard way years back while we were dodging thunderheads over the midwest. Between the levitating food and drinks it must have taken quite a while to clean that 737 up.

[@astrowolf_1313]

How about Pulkovo 612?

[@youidiot1183]

Haven't realised yet but apparently the two Qantas airlines featured on this channel all came from Singapore Changi Airport

[@titaniumsandwedge]

This is the same error as in the Indonesian Air crash. Due to a malfunction, the software commanded a flight control action the pilots were not aware and caused the plane to crash. When autonomous driving hits cars, we will see the same types of errors.

[@jim2lane]

How many times have software issues adversely affected Airbus aircraft? Way too many by my account. And very sadly some of them have resulted in loss of life.

[@tomstravels520]

Errrr name them all?

[@jim2lane]

@@tomstravels520 - here are some: AB FL219 1994, Qantas FL72 2008, AirAsia FL8501 2014, Luftansa FL1829 2014, AirFrance FL218 2019, Luftansa FL480 2019 - I could go on but these are just some of the actual INCIDENTS, there are also a slew of air worthiness directives that are software related - you can find them over at the FAA site

[@tomstravels520]

@@jim2lane I can see nothing about an Air Berlin flight having issues and they didn’t even have any airbus aircraft until 2005 QF72 is this one and was a design limitation of the FCPC that allowed the computer to process incorrect data, that was fixed soon after and has never happened again Air Asia 8501 was the captain deciding it would be a good idea to pull the circuit breakers when dealing with a minor fault just because it irritated him that turned off the FAC’s. The plane simply went into ALTN Law and the pilots mishandled the plane LH1829 was frozen tubes and that had now been remedied with OEB48 (video about it on youtube) AF218 had smoke and fumes in the cockpit, nothing to do with flight controls or software LH480 had some sort of speed indication problem.....that doesn’t necessarily mean it was software related and doesn’t say if all 3 airspeed indicators were broken or just 1

[@fnb1809]

Isnt the safest airline cathay pacific with a single accident?

[@chayn.3918]

One question how do you make these airport videos? Do other people fly the planes? If I'm wrong can you please tell me how you do it because you give me tons of inspiration

[@harryg3639]

I was on this flight ……… certainly solved my constipation problem !!!!!

[@CommodoreJames]

Remember kids. Buckle Up. Remember adults. Click it or ticket.

[@watershed44]

@CommodoreCrusher9000TM Pictures 1000% I remember seeing news interview with a few former and current professional commercial pilots, including Sullenberger and ALL of them favor passengers remaining belted the entire flight except for bathroom trips and medical reasons like poor circulation in some people. I will never unbelt unless it is absolutely necessary, neither should any other passengers.

[@georgie3]

I took Aeroflot flights in the 90s where half the people put their seatbelts loosely on their lap, disconnected, during takeoff. I was amazed, to put it gently. Most of us have come a long way since then :)

[@flipnap2112]

i find it very hard to believe they didn't find the root of the problem. especially when the plane doesnt crash and its a computer software or hardware problem. the code doesnt mysteriously change back. someone should've been found and held guilty. the code will not change and the cause should have been easily traced

[@Bespoke_ModelMaker]

I believe the issue was also in previous versions of the software as another commercial aircraft suffered the same event some 5 years before over the Mediterranean sea - no injuries. At the time the aircraft was tested with company engineers but could not duplicate the fault. Due to serious injuries this time with Qantas, Airbus requested an immediate fix from the US based manufacturer (Northrop Grumman) based in California. A quick fix was written which basically disabled some functions so as to not allow this type of failure to occur again. But going back to your question, the error in the code was never found. Investigations were wound up after the software update was released and expedited to associated customers.

[@roylavecchia1436]

I totally agree. I am a software developer myself and I find it very hard to believe that they were unable to find the exact cause of the error.

[@flybyairplane3528]

Roy Lavecchia SOFTWARE !!!! Do you remember the large Airbus 4 engined turboprop larger than the C130,,well I believe it was in SPAIN, but it got up a few hundred,,they throttled up ALL 4 quit, fell out of the sky killing all,,,,,,, OPSSSSSSS , the loaded the FIn......g WRONG SOFTWARE ! Great going AIRBUS , how the hell ?

[@terryofford4977]

Surely the GUILTY 'party is AIRBUS INDUSTRIES!

[@cockroachstepper]

Never clicked faster in my life

[@humelakecabin]

This is the problem with the airbuses. They have computer control priority that even overrides manual input. That is inherently dangerous.

[@robertw6894]

I've noticed that most of these "Air disasters" are with Quantas airlines. *I'm lookin at you, Australia.*

[@Vpmatt]

No such airline as Quantas.

[@tomstravels520]

Most? Like what?

[@davidca96]

STAUHHHLL STAUUHHHLLL....DIDIDDIDIDIDIDIDIDIDD I love the Airbus stall warning its so loud and British accented.

[@TheProPilot]

Holy ****. THAT'S why we have this new OEB! Turn 2 of the ADR off to revert to alternate law. Then pray the one remaining ADR isn't the faulty ADR.

[@flatiron53]

Excellent crew!

[@claudioferreira6062]

Why doesnt have a mode that alows to pilots fly without computer interventions ? Congrats to the crew.

[@tomstravels520]

It’s called ALTN Law

[@morskojvolk]

If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going...

[@TommyRaines]

One of the silliest comments around

[@patprice2953]

Martin....Yours is indeed.

[@pixelpro707]

Something about Air and Bus just doesn't feel right.

[@TheProPilot]

Right because Boeing knows how to create a stall protection system and then forget to tell anyone about it......... 🙄

[@workingguy-OU812]

Brother, I was just thinking the same thing. Airbus can sell their computerized aircraft to the Asian countries - they expect aircraft to fly themselves.

[@phadtrader4962]

The further removed pilots become from actual flying of the aircraft the more dangerous this becomes. The Captain could not get direct control of the aircraft without the control systems approving the inputs. That folks... is pretty scary.

[@borderinginsane1783]

After watching a documentary on this flight, its amazing how much was incorrect. For example, Captain Sullivan didn't pull back on the controls but instead let go of them and the plane then recovered. As well as this, because of the planes violent and rapid decent there wasn't just a few typical injuries, but in fact half the passengers suffered from deep cuts and bleeding, with about 1/16 of the cabin suffering serious injuries, such as having an ankle torn away from the foot and being able to twist the foot around and around, plus a spine completely shattered (all on the same poor person). Other people also have had PTSD from the incident and others have had to have the rest of their lives on pain killers. The nose dive was actually much more severe than it looks on the video, and was in fact around about a 60 degree decline. I fully respect the producer's attempt to make an accurate presentation of the crash, which all in all I believe he did very well. However, for the more precise of folk, I couldn't help but mention these facts.

[@tomstravels520]

I don’t know what documentary you watched but if you read the report and looked at the read outs from the FDR he pulled back, let go and then pulled back a second time and then the elevators responded. It was even mentioned in the ACI episode

[@winniethepoohandeeyore2]

Wow man! Sub'd!

[@ASG94]

This is a little wrong. As the plane dropped the nose, the plane didn't respond. Sullivan neutralized the controls by letting go of the stick, then it recovered.

[@tomstravels520]

No he let go then pulled back again. It’s in the FDR data

[@magdaline9627]

That was a miracle

[@arisdelis1]

Capt Sullivan is a former US Navy Fighter pilot....what was omitted in this video was him nosing down the plane to get out of the "fake" stall ...as the copilot kept pulling nosee up...and recovering the plane in the end

[@mattpope1746]

Ugh, I’m guessing those holes in the overheads were caused by passengers’ craniums slamming into them. A good reminder of why aircrews ask us to stay buckled up while seated. Glad all souls survived, and yes a good example of why we still need human pilots in the cockpit to override computer malfunctions.

[@waynegeordiesdad648]

Kind of 'BAIT'-named 'Freefall' since even according to this version it only 'fell 400 and 600 feet...and didn't actually fall

[@zeffsmith7099]

Some of the passengers got the opportunity to freefall, a few hit the ceiling.