Cutting It Close | Piedmont Airlines Flight 467

[@jeffgarnes6150]

Just got the heads-up on this from my brother who was a Piedmont employee. I was a passenger (seated in 3-C near as I remember) and TV reporter at the time. Too bad the video goes to black at the most "interesting" part - going through the fence and having our landing gear taken out by an ill-placed concrete barrier. That's what made us a sled into the railroad embankment. I do recall it got very quiet just before we left the runway (first bump). My brother - also a private pilot and career air maintenance expert - said the crew likely shut the engines down and activated the engine fire controls. We didn't burn when we likely should've - there was fuel spill. Engines were akilter and hissing loudly. Flight attendants were amazing. Lead (front) pulled the emergency chute cord so hard the cable cut through her hand - saw her later at hospital. She stayed inside and pitched passengers out where myself and others caught and helped them up on the tracks. Thanks to her and other passengers calm and courage there were no fatalities. However, as a lesson what not to do, a few had apparently unsnapped their seatbelts when we touched down and went flying upon impact with the railroad embankment. We hit appreciably hard. While I thank the pilot and first officer, I wish they had stayed around to help passengers in the aftermath. Myself and others were shouting at exiting passengers to get away from the plane. We needed to know where to go. Everyone who could walk just meandered toward the lights of the terminal in the rain. Could've been so much worse - it didn't burn. But moreover, God bless the flight attendants for getting everyone out.

[@marcmcreynolds2827]

"God bless the flight attendants for getting everyone out." In one crash after another, it's been a flight attendant who was the last one out of a burning airliner after making sure it was cleared. Incidents such as this one should remind us that the cabin crew is really the safety crew. Serving drinks simply gives them a way to pass the time in between crash landings ; )

[@jeffgarnes6150]

@@marcmcreynolds2827 Well said. Wear that seatbelt low as the flight safety message says - there’s a very good reason. There were only a few moments and battery lights were dim but I noticed we hit hard enough the back legs of my seat came out of their tracks. Belt worn higher than it should’ve been did some damage.

[@tarrasage4272]

Wow!!! That day I'm assuming never left you..So happy u survived & are here to tell us about it..

[@billolsen4360]

That railroad embankment was an unfortunate design choice and thereby the accident could have been much worse, but it was probably forced upon the airport when the jets were introduced. The airport that used to frighten me was in Farmington New Mexico, where the ends of the runways are next to the almost shear drop off of a mesa.

[@jeffgarnes6150]

@@billolsen4360 I agree entirely. My destination that night was Charleston, WV., a mountain top airport. Needless to say, I’m beyond glad the overrun happened in Charlotte if at all.

[@davidgoodman6924]

Airplane comes to a stop. Captain: "Whew, we survived!" First Officer: "Is that a train horn I hear?"

[@transitfan954]

Looking at Google Maps, that plane went quite a way from the runway, would have had to crossed Old Dowd Road (if it was there in 1986). Wonder which railroad that was. I'm guessing either CSX or Norfolk Southern.

[@stuartf2946]

David, that did make me laugh. 😂😂

[@maltheartistme]

captain: train? thats a plane.

[@eucliduschaumeau8813]

I used to fly Piedmont on the LaGuardia to Greensboro route dozens of times in the late 1970s and early 1980s. I remember some of the pilots being hotshots, coming in fast and slamming the engines into reverse and heavy on the brakes. On one go-around, the pilot overflew the airport almost sideways at a couple thousand feet and I could look straight out my window and see the whole airport below me. The planes were always dirty and missing chips of paint everywhere. Fun times.

[@markbeauseigneur5947]

Used to fly Piedmont when in the Marines stationed in South Carolina . Flew out of Beaufort S.C. and Savannah Georgia. Back in the mid 1980's

[@jorgemoro5476]

I loved Piedmont Airlines. When in the USAF and stationed back in the mid seventies in South Carolina I used to fly them to get home. The airport shared runways with the air base and one of my buddies would shuttle me in our Air Force pickup across the base and runways and drop me off at the airport - which at the time was a couple of double-wide trailers. Those were the days…

[@Primus54]

I loved Piedmont as well. In the 80’s, I traveled a great deal to/from cities where they operated and always found their ticket counter employees excellent. I got upgraded to First Class a couple of times simply because I was friendly with the staff and the particular flight wasn’t full. If I remember correctly, they were one of the first domestic airlines to offer every passenger a hot, moist towel to hand wash prior to takeoff. I was sad when USAir acquired them.

[@transitfan954]

I only flew Piedmont once. Charlotte to Norfolk with an intermediate stop at Fayetteville. Nice flight. It was also on a 737-200, but not this one, as it appears it was ex-United Airlines (737-222; a 737-200 built for Piedmont would have been 737-201)

[@glennweaver3014]

I loved Piedmont Airlines too. When I was in the USAF in the early 70s, I would catch a Piedmont F-27 out of Goldsboro, NC which also shared the runway with Seymour Johnson AFB. Sometimes we would connect in Raleigh Durham and take a Piedmont YS-11 up to La Guardia or an Eastern 727. Those were great days of flying with courteous service, dedicated employees and you weren't treated like dirt at the airport.

[@RivalsNuzairzardFREAKYT]

me to

[@cynthiadavid5282]

Awesome video many thanks good work

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

I have been waiting for this one. I also remember when this happened. Piedmont at the time was partially owned(20% stock ownership)by Southern Railway. Just a couple years after this crash, NS(Southern successor) tried to acquire control of Piedmont. The ironic part here is that the nose of the 737 is on the tracks of the Southern Railway.

[@megadavis5377]

Airlines don't generally terminate pilots for making mistakes unless the mistakes made are the direct result of carelessness and recklessness and so egregious in nature as to be unforgivable. Unlike many other industries, airline managers know that pilots are merely human, and that after retraining, said pilots are probably the safest on the senority list. We all know that things can happen fast, and they can happen to you as well as the next man. Those who criticize others for being human and making a mistake would be better off adopting the following tenets in life: 1) Never make a mistake of any type yourself, or 2) Never get involved in any endeavor in which a mistake made by you could do any harm to anyone or anything; never take a chance on anything in life, and never risk anything.

[@uwantsun]

Indeed.

[@pomerau]

I'm usually on the side of the pilot. There were a lot of mistakes and misjudgements though, and 10,000 hours at 39 is a lot.

[@smartysmarty1714]

OR, (here's an idea), just GO AROUND if your approach is unstable and then you and your passengers and crew won't die. It really is that simple. I'd give him a free pass if he were alone in his own GA aircraft, but not with hundreds of passengers counting on his abilities. Nobody ever got in trouble for going around...

[@pibbles-a-plenty1105]

Mega Davis, your "rules" are naive. There's no such thing as "never." It's what you do to PREVENT and CORRECT. They go hand-in-hand and are the bedrock skill of a true professional.

[@rickbarnes7745]

What happened to these pilots? How were they disciplined?

[@rogueldr642smiythe9]

Omg i did not think it was possible. Allec found a way to include Planes, Trains, and Automobiles in 1 video!!!!!!

[@tanyarobinson2098]

One of the BEST films ever!!!

[@pomerau]

Where? Were ( Tom Hanks) *edit* Steve Martin and John Candy flying?

[@tanyarobinson2098]

@@pomerau That movie had Steve Martin & John Candy in it. SUCH a good movie! They had a car crash but no plane crash...ha!

[@pomerau]

I didn't get the connection, but I'm not very bright :(

[@rogueldr642smiythe9]

@@pomerau LOL well the Plane is resting on a railroad embankment, and there are automobiles around the plane.

[@donnabaardsen5372]

I'd still really like to know what happens to cockpit crews if/when they survive. Fired? Those extra details would be great to know.

[@davidkendrick4453]

They have to spend their weekends picking up trash along the taxiways for 3 months.

[@sarahalbers5555]

@@davidkendrick4453 or work the take out window at McDonald's.

[@muffs55mercury61]

It just all depends on the circumstances. Human error is one thing and can be excusable but negligence is another. In France, Italy and Brazil, plane crashes are considered criminal acts, even if it's unintentional human error and pilots can go to prison although that doesn't always happen.

[@michaelmccarthy4615]

They have to sit on the sidelines and watch automation take over their jobs...

[@anthonywinebarger]

@@sarahalbers5555 more like restocking the duty free shop

[@FH99]

The procedures are there for a reason. Fortunately nobody was killed in this incident.

[@Flying_Snakes]

FO: "Good job, Captain, oh wait, I rescind that statement."

[@slidefirst694]

I usually hate when they blame the pilot but this guy screwed the pooch.

[@jonathanwpressman]

I love that expression

[@mortondark7067]

Rick Givens is a personal aquaintence.

[@MikeBrown-ex9nh]

Sometimes pilots with many hours of time get overconfident in their abilities, an don't use the necessary caution that they once would have.

[@aflacduckquack]

I remember this one. And the captain fouled up bigtime. Thank goodness nobody died; it could've been a tragedy. Nice work, Allec... :)

[@billolsen4360]

Wonder how those passengers with major injuries made out. Sometimes the damage can't be fixed entirely and you end up permanently incapacitated.

[@josephconnor2310]

I look forward to your postings. Fortunately this was not fatal. Thank you very much for your time and excellent work!

[@byronharano2391]

Kuya Allec. How do you obtain vintage photos of aircraft and many times the photo of the actual accident aircraft? Blessing on your flight training. Simulator hours

[@mbryson2899]

I was wondering the same thing. Also, his is one of the few channels where I can trust that the pictures and graphic depictions are accurate. He does an amazing job.

[@derbagger22]

Love that Piedmont blue!

[@gem7107]

I think it was and still is the best airline paint scheme. I might be bias because I worked for them in the 80's. Left after the US Air merger.

[@m.d.5463]

Although hard to see due to nighttime, you again did a nice job on this incident, Allec! Thank you very much.

[@deeanna8448]

Thank you for doing this one!! Piedmont Airlines has a special place in my heart because the flight from Greensboro to see family in Ohio was my very first flight!

[@dianericciardistewart2224]

Allec, your productions/re-creations are tops!! Excellent work!! Best wishes for continued success for you!! God bless. . . 💕🙏✈✈🙏💕

[@ShadesOClarity]

My first commercial flight was on a Piedmont 737 from Kinston, N.C. to D.C. I still love those old 737s.

[@dknowles60]

Fun fact pedmount was Owen by southern rail road and it hit southern rail road tracks thank God there was no 🚆 train coming

[@javaguru7141]

If the Piedmont train hit the Piedmont plane, we could have finally had a jet train in passenger service.

[@rotor-head]

I think you mean Norfolk and Southern RR

[@MTisOnly1]

I love that golden age of aviation and I remember it well.

[@6omega2]

Another great vid, thanks! I have to ask: a lot of these accidents seem to be caused by reluctance of pilots to abandon an approach and initiate a go around when that would be indicated. I wonder if there is pressure on pilots to avoid go-arounds?

[@travist7777]

Ego, and they are a pain, probably...

[@scoobydo446]

No fault no question go around on all commercial airlines

[@scoobydooo4390]

While a Go Around actioned occasionally is generally accepted ,questions will be asked as to why it was necessary, if the approach was otherwise stable but, say unexpected windshear was encountered, then fine... But your company is very conscious of fuel costs and very conscious of their reputation for punctuality, so every G/A is noted and tacitly disapproved of. Repeated 'offenders' will be investigated,,, So, yes, in the real World a G/A is to be avoided, so yes, calculated risks are sometimes taken as there is pressure to get your flight on the ground.. Everybody's done it and breathed a sigh of relief as they turn off the RWY... It's a high pressure industry...Financial margins are small...It's worse now than it used to be....I'm glad I'm retired..

[@6omega2]

@@scoobydooo4390 Great info, thanks. I suspected it was something like that.

[@dblack2630]

I don't know the technical term for it, but in addition to external factors, I think there can simply be a kind of fixation on completing the approach and not stepping back for just a second to look at the whole picture. Sometimes it really does take only a single second, and sometimes that happens but too late to have an effect on the outcome. But things can snowball in a second, too. Other folks have other answers, and I think no one explanation applies to all go-arounds.

[@Torontotootwo]

Seems like water on the runway spoiled what might been a pat on the back for the Captain's landing.

[@MikeBrown-ex9nh]

Remember, there was water on the runway for the previous flights that landed safely. It is the responsibility of the pilot to consider all circumstances.

[@Torontotootwo]

I stand-by my comment.

[@johnnyjohnson3733]

Wow. I worked for the FAA during that time and was on the team that rebuilt the ILS Localizer antenna it wiped out. I remember the jet fuel smell and the plane straddling the railroad track.

[@sosco22]

Happy memories of flying Piedmont in the 70’s

[@anthonygiachinta3056]

I worked for piedmont airlines for 5 years they were a great airline to work for ,, they would give every employee a $ 100 for Christmas . It was like one big family .

[@TheGekko64]

I was a paramedic in Charlotte then and was second on the scene for this crash! Thanks for sharing!

[@johnmoss8230]

Absolutely awesome channel as soon as I see Allec on the upload I know it's guna be good. Great job with the channel

[@sosco22]

My instructor was ex-Air Force and he often said there’s no shame in going around.

[@MorganBrown]

Windshear: that’s my story and I’m sticking to it

[@muffs55mercury61]

Thank goodness no fire as that likely meant the difference between fatalities and none. A litany of errors here. It could have been a lot worse though.

[@MrEsMysteriesMagicks]

Okay, now I'm really confused. The movie says the autopilot's name is Otto, not George.

[@michaelmichniak127]

Just don't call it Shirley!!😆

[@marcmcreynolds2827]

Could you guys please keep it down? I'm trying to watch gladiator movies with a little boy I just met.

[@allanadam4553]

Just got to work at CLT, working the nightshift in brake riding, remember that accident as well as the others that followed here. Funny thing just came across the old newspaper articles I kept of the accident a few days ago.

[@kcindc5539]

Whoa forgot about this one!

[@johningram9081]

Great work again.

[@dpf2122]

Very informative as always. Thank you Mr Ibay.

[@johnpatrick1588]

Newer B737s likely would have been in 3 pieces with an overrun like that. They seem to like to break at bulkhead attachments. Study crashes before picking a seat on those planes.

[@deepthinker999]

Just happened with DHL.

[@CivilDefenseSoutherner]

Speaking of North Carolina, I was there last weekend. On my return flight, once stepping aboard, oxygen masks accidentally dropped on a certain row and a maintenance worker for Allegiant Air (airline I was flying) fixed it pre-departure!

[@mr.napoleon6235]

..k

[@ericwsmith7722]

I always feel it's kind of strange the airline makes landing and take-off procedures and not the manufacturer.

[@SpeedyHedgieAllstars]

Whoa I will never forget about this one!

[@anthonymichalski9015]

can anyone in the comments here answer this question? >>> does the Captain and co-pilot of this crash get suspended for a significant amount of time or fired? I understand the NTSB giving a list and a bunch of mistakes and out of procedure decisions that the Captain made, what are the usual accountability measures that are taken? If I crashed and damaged a forklift at an old warehouse job you get suspended for 3 days or so and have to undergo forklift training to make sure you understand the rules, sometimes you are banned from forklift duties for a period of time ( 1 month, 3 months, 6 months depending on severity) does the same happen for pilots ? on any crashes ( short of perishing in a crash ) that Allec has covered? thanks for any answers !

[@dliang4628]

Another excellent video well made Allec!! Hope you can cover the recent MU crash when more details are revealed. Thanks!!🙏🙏

[@pomerau]

Three seriously injured though. They could have been struggling through life a long time.

[@nickedgar6706]

The simulated part of the video is so dark, all that’s visible is a few windows and poorly lit cockpit.

[@asteverino8569]

Thanks Allec JB.

[@fleetwin1]

In spite of the errors, everyone lived, a blessing for sure

[@MrKrissy1]

I worked for Piedmont and then USAIr bought us, what a sad day

[@fluffy-fluffy5996]

10.000 flying hours at 37 is pretty impressive. Some 53y old captains aren’t even at that.

[@ElHasni]

Nice Video Allec Is there any possibility to Cover up the Northwest Airlines flight 253 case

[@davidkendrick4453]

Was the aircraft damaged beyond repair and written off? I have to know!! 😀

[@scoobydo446]

Well there was a big explosion in the video maybe it was

[@tpajay]

According to Aviation Safety Network, This B737 (registration N752N) was damaged beyond repair & written off.

[@davidkendrick4453]

@@tpajay that’s one of Allec’s catchphrases. When it’s left out I get sad.

[@tpajay]

@@davidkendrick4453 OK. I thought it was odd the way you said you have to know because it's it's easy to find the info. I never saw his catchphrase when watching his videos.

[@MrCrystalcranium]

Was the plane written off or repaired and put back in service?

[@paulcooper8818]

Wonder how many hours the captain flew after his 10,000?

[@SvcGlobal]

Loved the turbine intake small diameter, basically pure jet engines...

[@MikeBrown-ex9nh]

And the loud, crackling sound on takeoff was beautiful.

[@WendyKS93]

Thank God there was no train coming along at that time cause that plane dang near stopped on the railroad tracks.

[@billlawrence1899]

Weather marginal. 400 and 2. No problem. Close in turn to final. Pilot ego, I can handle that. OK, here's what you do. Ask for a delaying vector, make a 360 if needed. Cross the outer marker fully configured, on altitude, bug speed plus 5, power set to maintain speed and G/S, roughly 2,500 to 3,000 PPH Fuel flow, rate of decent between 500 and 800 FPM, never to exceed 1000, ride the G/S down to minimums, and aim to touch down on the 1,000 ft stripes. Then taxi in, shut her down, turn in the paperwork, catch the cab or van to the hotel, change into your civies, and meet in the bar for debrief.

[@tonycerino1736]

I took Piedmont airlines in 1987 to go to Florida and we took a 737-200 it looked identical to that plane.

[@susiesweet8003]

Well...everyone lived. 🥰

[@JosephStalin-yk2hd]

I hope burt the ‘turbulent turd’, doesn’t get anger at this

[@1rem1Art]

Great video as always. 10:58 the aircraft aquaplaned, not hydroplaned

[@jjquinn2004]

From Merriam-Webster dictionary: hydroplaned; hy​dro​plan​ing; hy​dro​planes Definition (Entry 2 of 2) intransitive ​verb : to skim on water especially, of a vehicle : to skid on a wet surface (such as pavement) because a film of water on the surface causes the tires to lose contact with it

[@MikeBrown-ex9nh]

It was an airplane, not a boat.

[@brianalberico9171]

I've been to the crash site of United 409, I'd be curious to see a video about it if you haven't already done one.

[@dimitrageorgiadi5087]

.... and the pilot was experienced. 10,000 flight hours. Wow! Why didn't the video mention "sloppy" too?

[@promqueen998]

Damn, I'm super early! Love the video!!!

[@NihongoGuy]

10,000 hours and he screws up that bad. That is scary. As I was watching the turns they were making, I was thinking, "That is odd, they turned well over 90 degrees to head for the runway". That seemed odd to me. I know it is no big deal if they are 25 miles out, but it seemed like they were way closer, seems to be to be hard to do an stable approach like that.

[@justinbarnes5498]

Love these videos... but somehow the sad-sounding piano towards the end doesn't hit the mark when everyone survives, but sure makes it more heart-wrenching when there are fatalities.

[@Mikeyp1054]

No info this time Alex if the aircraft was repaired or not,therefore written off.Do you know if it was returned to service,?

[@player66xd69]

The noise of the crash (the moment when the plane impacted and then the video goes to black screen then back) doesn’t match the actual impact itself. The plane only hit a road and front gear collapsed,

[@phelpsmarc]

Alec only has one stock sound effect for planes overrunning runways. I know it sounds like the plane hit a wall.

[@jeffgarnes6150]

Lorrie says it well - there was a bit more than just the overrun. A concrete barrier took out the landing gear and we kept going like a sled downhill and into the railroad embankment. When the landing gear departed, we thumped down such that many of the overhead compartments opened and it briefly rained carry-on luggage. We hit the tracks hard enough I noticed (brief and dim as it was) the back supports of my seat came out of the tracks and I later noticed bruises from shin to knees from hitting the seat ahead of me. The seatbelt is what got me though. Worn too high and ripped muscles. Lesson learned.

[@dwmzmm]

Was the aircraft totaled or repaired and returned to service?

[@peterbiltguy4311]

Hi Allec Joshua Ibay! Can you please make The Crash Of Yak- Service Flight 9633? Will you do that?

[@harbepirot6651]

Could you find anything about An26 31.8.1995 crash on greek road?

[@aroopghosh1381]

Hi can you share the Ariana Afgan flight 701 accident at London Gatwick please ?

[@TheLesserWeevil]

I'm not an expert, but what are the difficulties in designing a rain-proof runway?

[@gilbertfranklin1537]

Weevil, I have wondered that many times with these videos - I know sections of expressway ramps and certain bridges have grooves for that purpose. But, whenever something seems so obvious to me, I think there may be a good reason they can't. Quite a contrast between these big planes and my Mitsubishi... 😏

[@marcmcreynolds2827]

The rain factor has traditionally been addressed by building with a "crown" (1.5 degree slope from the center to either edge) for basic drainage, plus grooving to further aid water removal. But that can only be taken so far: Crown the runway a lot more, and touchdown dynamics could get a bit dicey for off-centerline landings. Cut wider/deeper grooves, and the braked tires start to take a beating. In the case of the Space Shuttle runway built at Kennedy Space Center, extra roughness was engineered into the runway surface to increase friction in case the Orbiter ended up landing soon after a rainstorm. The unintended result was some landings where braked tires were getting the rubber worn off all the way into the cord layers just from that one stop. Way dangerous to have a tire get that close to structural failure, so they had to smooth the runway surface back down to a more conventional level of roughness.

[@TheLesserWeevil]

@@marcmcreynolds2827 Thanks for the info. Interesting stuff.

[@moriver3857]

That embarrkment where the airplane ended up still exists.

[@cattinkerbell4946]

When you order your flight crew at Wish.

[@rtp3962]

The captain had flown an airplane before right?

[@rhianjones1319]

I would like to what happened to everyone on board this whether they survived or not now that would be interesting to find out those details

[@jeffgarnes6150]

All survived - though several serious injuries and quite a few of the lesser variety. I was one of the latter. Went to hospital that night in Charlotte with lower abdomen pain and swelling. Later learned it was muscle tearing and bleeding caused by seat belt upon impact. It was a jarring, hard stop against that railroad embankment. But thanks be to God - we didn't burn.

[@smartysmarty1714]

From the very first time this guy put his paws on a yoke, he was taught that if your approach is going to hell than you go around. And yet...he tried to ram it in there, which he ultimately did.

[@carchaseaction]

Request: Iran Air Flight 655 please 🙏

[@trent3872]

The ambulance chasing lawyers beat the emergency personnel to the crash site, MURICA.

[@trent3872]

@Lorrie Carey Bless your heart, I'm like you In that i dont believe in all that lawyer suing stuff. I'm glad you got a free trip and found a good job out of it.

[@sdbc80]

Man those pilots were stupid but good job allec

[@mbvoelker8448]

The simulation is so dark I might as well be reading a transcript with no visuals at all. :(

[@billyponsonby]

Interesting

[@gilbertfranklin1537]

Since pilots are only human, someday they may just have to bite the bullet and make runways longer! Remember, you saw that said here... 🤗

[@dylancamps4922]

Do frontier 260

[@fastfiddler1625]

Why are none of the findings related to the laundry list of mistakes made by the crew. I can practically follow along with my own flight manual and go, "yep, this is why we do it this way" and "yep, this too." Many if not most airlines require final configuration by 1000' above the field and a go around for ANY GPWS alerts. Moral of the story, don't let ATC box you into a corner. And maybe also don't just decide to add whatever you want to Vref for landing.

[@stuartlee6622]

Northwest Flight 710.

[@pibbles-a-plenty1105]

This seems like a classic case of normalization of deviance. The captain was arrogant and sloppy and believed he could ignore procedures and fly by gut because he had gotten away with it many times before. He royally screwed up this time. He should have been fired.

[@javaguru7141]

Agree with everything but the "being fired". You pointed out a culture problem. That's what needs to be fixed. No need to fire a pilot who might fly by the book for the rest of his career after learning why he should.

[@jeffdo9195]

Close in base to start to tell you something

[@charlesfranzhong]

Can You Making Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

[@RivalsNuzairzardFREAKYT]

me to

[@ExcavationNation]

Hey brother

[@henryjames5663]

Pilot error, trust he was stopped from flying

[@scoobydo446]

Do you have to make your videos so dark, ? Can you not put the stabiliser light on ?

[@EphemeralProductions]

the FO was doing the callouts. Guess the 737-200 was made before the time they had automatic callouts from the computer.

[@sencere4808]

Since it's an old plane, automated systems like autopilot, ILS(the screen version) wasn't updated yet

[@EphemeralProductions]

@@sencere4808 right. yeah i saw that this took place in 86 and the plane was 18 years old by that point, so really I wasn't surprised it didn't have that stuff. lol

[@psalm2forliberty577]

Didn't it say 18 years old & this was 1987 ? So vintage 1969 - pretty ancient....very early 737...

[@EphemeralProductions]

@@psalm2forliberty577 1986. Yep pretty early . I just wasn't sure how early they put that stuff in there, was all

[@psalm2forliberty577]

@@EphemeralProductions Believe it, they had some early ILS stuff in the B707s from 1959 onwards Im 90% sure. Lockheed Tristar L-1011 an almost great & legendarily advanced passenger jet also had similar early "Full Automation" landing. And we cant leave out the BOAC Comet that had the "It lands in 100,000 fluttering pieces" feature as well, in I think 1955 or so...first early 4 engine British Jet

[@deenasmusicbox]

This video was so dark making it difficult to watch.

[@buckfaststradler4629]

it was at night , what do you expect ?

[@EYESandHEART]

737-200 was not a fantastic airplane. Boeing really came a long way with the 737. Anyway, so in this video, basically the captain and the co-pilot did everything wrong, despite company policy, despite NTSB and FAA guidelines and they subsequently crashed the plane. Wonderful. Can anyone tell me why pilots do things like this. Do you become that complacent and lazy or forgetful to where you just funk everything up and wreck a jet plane and injure/kill people ?!?!

[@Capecodham]

another dark video

[@watershed44]

@burt2481 Something constructive to say for a change? LOL

[@JosephStalin-yk2hd]

No shit Sherlock, it’s at *night*

[@jakerson181]

@burt2481 You scared of the dark, little man?

[@Capecodham]

@@jakerson181 Another keyboard warrior.

[@watershed44]

@@Capecodham can you do me a favor? see if you can get a response from anandaguru1983 that always posts the title of the videos repeatedly...thanks.

[@sligeach]

Can you please give us slower readers more time to read the longer sections of text!!!!!🧐

[@rrknl5187]

Making a go around is something that just about every pilot tries to seriously avoid. Not only does it make you feel dumb but there will be uncomfortable questions you’ll need to answer. Why did you go around? Because I felt the approach was not stable. Why did you feel the approach was not stable? After a while, you feel like saying ‘because not only am I a complete idiot but I’m also a lousy pilot and should be flying’. And the interrogation continues.....

[@ndmz903]

What?

[@MikeBrown-ex9nh]

Safety first. That answers the question. Anyone who disagrees has their own questions to answer. A severely damaged aircraft and people injured could have been avoided by placing safety as the priority.

[@deepthinker999]

@@MikeBrown-ex9nh That is also the financially sound decision.

[@anandguruji83]

Cutting It Close | Piedmont Airlines Flight 467

[@anandguruji83]

Cutting It Close | Piedmont Airlines Flight 467

[@petuniaskunk2316]

I guess you won’t stop spamming every time a new video is uploaded.

[@YokaiTheGSD]

Cutting It Close | Piedmont Airlines Flight 467

[@cancelanime1507]

Cutting It Close | Piedmont Airlines Flight 467

[@watershed44]

@@petuniaskunk2316 I've reported these guys many times and yet they are still here. Makes no sense.