WOLF RIDGE BAGGING STATION WITH A TWIST

In this video we compare bundling methods and show you our plan to stock up and store bundles in preparation for next season.
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[@dekotaburns1776]

Im a first time firewood stand owner and operator also in the beautiful State of Maine. I’m learning as much as I can. Thanks for the informative video!

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

@@dekotaburns1776 good to here from ya ware abouts in Maine are ya . Ask away any questions you have or if ya close by stop in to the wood yard some time .

[@dekotaburns1776]

@@AllenFamilyFirewood I’m in the beautiful Town of Bar Harbor. Right in prime camp wood territory. I currently bag the wood using the white grain(feed bags.) but at a 80 cents to a dollar a piece I’d love to cut costs

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

@@dekotaburns1776 the cheapest way is to wrap the bundles it’s usually under 10 cents pr bundle using the plastic wrap . You can build your own bundler if you’re handy . Should be lots of videos out there on building one . The bags we use are about 40 cents but we buy it in big rolls and make our own . That part of the state is a nice area . As kids we used to stop at Trenton bridge every summer and have a lobster .

[@kimsmart5932]

Karen you’re rocking that skirt😍

[@karenallen8581]

Lol, thanks Kim! 😜

[@jameschandler2776]

You guys work great together. My wife and I used to do firewood together but we are getting old and she doesn't enjoy it any longer.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Well im not home much an Karen figured out early on that if she wanted to spend time with me she better learn to stack wood lol. I wouldnt say its her favorite thing to do but she dont mind it an we always have fun .

[@nhhbbyloggr5022]

We used that yellow mesh netting for years which we purchased from an outfit in Canada. They no longer produce it so we are delighted to find another source for this netting. I ordered a few rolls from Quadel Industries and look forward to having it in our lineup again. Thanks for the link ! ( In fact when I spoke with Quadel I mentioned that I found their business from a YT channel ... and she said : " Allen Family Firewood ? " LOL Yup. Hope you have a good season .

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thanks for mentioning our name to them . We have ben very happy with the netting and the customer service ,

[@mckmade434]

Baling Christmas trees we used to use that type of netting in 200ft and larger lengths. Slide it all on the tube, fill the bundler bucket, pull it over and hog ring the end dump and hog ring the other end. Saves loads of time on loading individual pieces.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

I should have thought about christmas tree netting . We used to get quite a few trailer truck loats of them wrapped trees back when i had a garden ctr

[@toddsoutsideagain]

I think you two are on to something with those yellow bags! I might be looking into that for the future. Now I learned something from y’all. This is the benefit of KZbin. Sharing ideas and experiences! Thanks for the shout out and the education on the yellow mesh👍🏻👍🏻

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

After watching you bring bags back from a stand i figured we needed a better way Todd . Thats the good thing about youtube sharing ideas an learning from each other helps everyone .

[@LeBlancfirewood]

How much are the yellow bags

[@CherylGagnon-c3o]

Now that was fun guys! " Big Blue" is getting a much needed rest today !! but tomorrow is another day in the Wood Yard! Phil will be right back inside that nice cool A/C cab!! finding things to move! Karen don't let him take his lunch in there, or you might not see him all day! ❤

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

As much as id like to spend the day moving things around with the tractor theres always a ton of things that need doing . It would be perdy hard to hide in our wood yard its only like 200 ft by 200 ft lol. Karen always seems to know what ive ben up to an what ive goten done even when shes not there so its hard to get away with very much but that dont stop me from trying lol.

[@Mainelywork]

🤘Thanks for the info. Was just getting ready to buy some of the orange bags

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

The other bags work just fine as long as there not out in the sun for more than 2 weeks

[@Mainelywork]

@@AllenFamilyFirewood hood to know I was going to bag them up this winter and keep them in the greenhouse. Probably not a good idea

[@70landcruiser]

Good to see you up at niels buddy had a good talk with you and Brian hope to see you at state rendezvous

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Trapping get togethers are always a good time an plenty of good people like yourself for me to shoot the bull with lol. Im sure i will make it up to the state rendezvous in september . See ya up there .

[@ironmayhew]

Great work, you to. Love your videos.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thanks we appreciate ya watching

[@davidedwards3734]

Thanks for the information on the bags!! Will be looking into this!! Stay Hydrated and Have a Safe Day

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

The true test for us will be letting them sit over the winter if that works we will go all in on the yellow bags

[@LeBlancfirewood]

This is the video I wanted to see

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

We should probably do another video this yr on the bags we get so many people asking us about them .

[@leonardryan8723]

Phil and Karen PINE IS FIND ! Might have to look 👀 into rabbit 🐇 wire for bundles firewood 🪵. Recycle ♻️ and reused in wire brass , SS steel lol . Dana got a wet ass other morning get into the bobcat. I heard the onion bag break down in the sun ☀️ light Phil . 😊

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

The onion bags do break down in the sun an i think thats what them red bags are made the same way . The yellow ones we are trying will hold up to the sun and just by looking at them i can see there 5 times as strong as one of them red bags .

[@gladyspierce7972]

Karen, looking good in the mini skirt..I like the yellow bags..the time you save stacking will cover the cost of the bags and you will be in the garage not out in the weather..looking forward to your next video..

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

I never looked at it that way the amount of time we would be saving from not stacking an moving pallets probably covers the added cost pr bag plus we will be able to more than double the amount of bags / bundles we did this yr

[@karenallen8581]

Thanks Gladys! We’re hoping this will work like we think it will 😊

[@hillbillyfranks]

It looks like a good savings Easy Looking Machine You gotta do what you gotta do save money easy work have a good day and stay safe

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

The Wolf Ridge bagging station is some nice to use . We have done a few 100 on it so far and think its a way better set up than wrapping .

[@outdoorswiththisguy1950]

I use the red bags and I had to build a new stand, that keeps them completely covered. Now they work fine. I like the looks of the wrap better but I think the bags are easier to make up. Course I don’t have a fancy wrapper like yours lol. Take Care!!!

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

A covered stand sounds like it would work great but i was more concerned with leaving pallets of bags outside for the winter so that is what made us look for something different . No doubt the bags are easier to do . I thought the yellow bags looked better in the stand than the wrapped bundles maybe i should have done a side by side test to see what the customer likes better . We picked that twister up at a yard sale for $400 other than that i would have still ben wrapping by hand .

[@davidlibby7230]

I see other channels getting free equipment. I don't know what they are doing to get it but companies should be looking at you.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thanks David but we are just a lil guy on youtube . Maybe once we get up over 5000 subscribers but to be honest we really dont need anything allthough a new conveyor would be nice instead of the piece of junk we have but it works an is way better than throwing wood in the trailer .

[@knottwworking]

I really like the mesh bag idea, build your inventory all winter like you said and ready to go! 👍 Talk later. Terry

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thats what we are hoping to do less handling means more time to cut split an deliver .

[@noelstractors-firewood57]

Those yellow bags will brighten up the stands nicely and attract customers. No rings for me 😂😂🤣🤣 Karen could enter her self into those fish net Friday pictures the girls do. 😳😳😳😳 Looks like a good system. Just have to get use to making the bundles. Good colour. For advertisement. You could have Karen standing at one of the stands on Fridays waving at the people to bring in customers Phil. 👍🏻 Have a great day.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

No rings for Noel i will make a note of that lol. We did a 100 of them bags the other day so we are getting used to it . I need Karen here on fridays stacking wood this time of yr but maybe next summer .

[@noelstractors-firewood57]

@@AllenFamilyFirewood 👍🏻🪓🪵

[@peternobst2945]

Hi Karen and Phil Congratulation on the new Tractor ,I use potato sacks in different sitzes , etwa 0,24 € gerade Technicker angerufen er kommt morgen danngeht das mit der Imail bis morgen Peter

[@davidlibby7230]

You keep it interesting.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thanks David sometimes it a challenge to make cutting an splitting interesting day after day an video after video so we try an change up what we are doing .

[@susanscherer143]

GREAT VIDEO, BEAUTIFUL skirt!! 😂

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thank you!!

[@bkoutdoors6517]

Those yellow bags look simple! I might have to look into them if my bundles sales ever take off. Nice work! Tyler

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Its pricy to get started i think the roll of mesh came in a 2000 ft roll along with the gun an hog rings everything came to around $500 but a roll of shrink wrap is only $20 . Thanks Tyler

[@OpenAirAdventure]

It's gonna work, you'll make it work. Cute skirt Karen😊

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Your right Kenny one way or another i will make it work

[@karenallen8581]

Lol, thanks Kenny! I’m not proud! Obviously haha 😂

[@OpenAirAdventure]

@@karenallen8581 haha, good stuff buddy

[@brandonpaul5712]

Thanks for showing something new and different. I watch a lot of different firewood channels and i learn so much more from the newer, smaller channels.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

I think as we get bigger an get our system tuned in there will be less an less new things that we will be trying to figure out . Theres a learning faze the first yr trying all the different ways of doing things to see what works for us an what dont .

[@DanielAtkinsFirewood]

Phil glad you love Karen enough to not put that kind of ring on her..🤣 You did forget to mention boxes. I seen a short last night someone did bundles in cardboard boxes..

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Your right i missed that one there are a few folks around here that use banana boxes to sell wood in an they usually get $10 pr box

[@karenallen8581]

Lol Daniel. He’s not getting near me with that gun! Haha. Already got my ring 😂

[@toddpacheco4748]

Phil and Karen I’ll bet that you just made a lot of people think they need to get their hands 🙌 on the netting that you just to make their bundles then maybe they can help in your yard ❤😊😮

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

It really is good stuff for what we are trying to do with it but for just a few hundred bundles i think the wrap is the most cost effective they just cant be made up an stored months in advance

[@tinkervilletrader1964]

Great video pretty slick way to bundle wood for sure I'm still old school with using twine over here it works you both take care and be safe from the great north woods of NH

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Heck ya twine works great also and is probably cheaper than plastic wrap . When we was kids we used inertubes cut about an inch wide like a rubber band to make bundles an sell them . Thats the fun part of all this is all the different ways to do the same thing . We all cut split stack an bundle but there sure are alot of variables .

[@billobermeyer660]

Fantastic video Phil and Karen!! Also, great information and ideas from the commenters. Been thinking about other options to tie off the ends of the yellow mesh rolls instead of the gun and rings. If you used twine with a "butcher's knot" and slip knot combination that could work. You would not have to weave it through the mesh, just around it. I know you have a lot of tests to do so maybe we can experiment some at the PB show in October. obie

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thats the best thing about this wood hound community every one is always helping each other an figuring out the best way an coming up with new ideas . Be nice to meet ya at the Paul Bunyon show we are looking forward to going .

[@clubdoraoutdoorsandfirewood]

Phil and Karen, I have 3 pallets of bundles left from last December . Probably 150-175 bundles. Mine are always under cover and had no problem holding together.I am not sure if you have enough shedded areas to store them until next spring. Good luck figuring it out,but good plan to get ready for next year. Phil your n and n trailer is 82 inches wide by 14 feet long. When you dump in loose how many cords can you haul. I am hoping I can get 2 cords on the trailer I just bought. 6 x 12 x 3= 216 cf. and that has to be stacked and that’s a little over. 5 face cords. Looks like 4 loose is All I can haul. Let me know what you think.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

We can dump in 2 loose cord and it fills it up level to the top . Maine state law says a loose cord of wood should mesure 180 cu ft

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Interested in how the mesh holds up. Could definitely be a viable option if you can bag green wood. Always adapting in the Woodyard.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

We are going to find out perdy quick . We are going to split up 3 or 4 cord of pine this week an see how it drys in the bags all stacked on a pallet . Looked like a good time in Boonville one way or another we will be there for next yr .

[@stannelson2582]

Lumber capital log yard uses tube bags. Check out their process of making them. You may pick up something that works for you!!!!!!

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thanks Stan i will go ck them out a few people have mentioned them i thought they only did sawing .

[@fredwilliams1902]

Sounds like a good plan for your bagging wood, just think that your rent for stand space is high with no security to prevent theft. To bad you can't sell them your bags for X amount and they sell them for their price and you keep the stands stock, Easier to keep track of your average profit per bag. Anyway I think that your idea of stocking up bags during the Winter is great, best of luck to you and the new tractor , ,,,oh,,, er and the skirt idea. LOL.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

I think your right 20 % of whats in the cash box is alot and i think going forward with new locations we will offer 10% . Most of the people we have asked about stands just dont want to be involved but are happy to make some extra cash for the inconviniance of cars an trucks pulling in there yard 24/7 . We are also working on some stores an campgrounds that will buy them for a set price an all we have to do is drop the bundles off . Lol the skirt idea im always thinking .

[@fredwilliams1902]

Well keep thinking, I like the way you think LOL!!!!!!!!@@AllenFamilyFirewood Good luck on getting the stores and gas stations, sounds good.

[@BillDudockJr.-cj7xz]

Good job on the video you do great together i do the red bags and yes they do fail in the sun one thing i found out put the string side away from the sun on my stand they lasted a lot longer the yellow bags looks good but seems like a lot more work if they last longer be worth the time take care and bee safe

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thanks Bill good info to know . After handling the red ones an the new yellow mesh bags im about 99%sure that bagging up wood a yr in advance wont be a problem with the yellow ones but yes they are more work to make but there half the price and in a upcoming video you will se they really stand out at the rd side stand .

[@leonardryan8723]

Need to pick up sea can for storage your bundles for the winter months. I been think 🤔 put on a fall SALE like groceries store two for price as one . Like potatoes chip one for $6 or two for $8 . 😊

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Leonard it would take alot of them shipping containers to hold 70 cord of bundles

[@alkorczykowski8329]

THUMBS UP FOR BUYING AMERICAN SUPER VIDEOS KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thanks 👍we always try an buy from someone here in the USA or our northern friends in Canida

[@1966poker]

Run the netting through a pie e of PVC or tubing small enough to compress it for the bottom hog ring and to hold it to cut.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

I think it would jam up because it comes off the spool all twisted but im gona see what i have for pipe an try it an if it works you will se a video on it for sure . Thanks for the idea i like ya way of thinking .

[@906sisu5]

Thanks for the video, it came just at the right time. I ran into the same problem with bundling and time and thinking about how to make them ahead vs the whole shrinkage thing. Going with the bags I could bundle in winter in the shop, my bride likes to be warm also. Thanks

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thanks for watching im 99.9 %sure this mesh bag is the answer for putting them up way ahead of time . Bringing the wood inside in the winter to bag up is the way to go if you have room . My stacking machine / bundle maker will not operate when its below 20 degrees lol so thats why i put in the woodstove .

[@906sisu5]

@@AllenFamilyFirewood I hear you, I heat both my shops 24/7 here in the U.P. so might as well be comfy.

[@jdubbink98]

Bagging green wood in place of stacking?…yes please!

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thats what i was thinking an now im just hoping it works but there seems to be more air space on a pallet of bags than a pallet of stacked wood so it should dry better

[@Living-The-Dream]

Great info !! Will be interesting to see how long the yellow mesh, actually lasts…..cool ! Thanks Guy’s 👍👏🇺🇸 Rick

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Its perdy rugged stuff Rick im going to put all my eggs in one basket this winter an hopefully put up 70 cord of pine in the bags .

[@Living-The-Dream]

@@AllenFamilyFirewood Phil, are you going to cover the top of the stacks or go exposed to all the elements? If I may ask……

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

@@Living-The-Dream I think to be safe we are going to use black plastic kinda like we did last yr we also plan on leaving the pallets of bags after we stack em in the building with the fans an stove running for a week or so to start them drying .

[@Living-The-Dream]

@@AllenFamilyFirewood Gotcha ! Thanks Phil…..👍

[@outdoorsinthe608]

The mesh bags is a great idea! I’m just wondering how the customer will open them… Thanks for sharing👍👍

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Most of our customers are campers so im thinking they must have a hatchet or a knife handy they sure drink alot of beer so a broken glass bottle would work also lol.

[@outdoorsinthe608]

@@AllenFamilyFirewood very true!😂🍺

[@johnwinslow4503]

Finding a better way to bundle firewood has become like building a better mousetrap. For us, the columns has worked out best. We keep wood year round for when ever there is a power outage. Like I said, we have minimal labor involved and no extra expenses. Have found a niche for people supporting Lion's. I am sure the New York Woodsman Expo was tempting, need to make hay while the sun shines, zure Karen agrees.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

John you guys have a nice set up there . Next yr we hope to up our game an be over a doz locations so bags are really our only option . Karen will beat me if i have her stacking wood at a doz locations once a week lol. We really wanted to go to Boonsville but i love trapping an have ben going to this trapping get together for over 20 yrs hopefully next yr the dates are different .

[@sirwallygator565]

all air tools you need to oil them from time to time. Nail guns I put a couple drops of air tool oil in the air inlet and I spray the nail rail every day.. You may find you have way less problems

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

You are 100% correct i actualy did put some oil in it just like my nail gun but as we found out latter its the strip of hog rings that was giving us problems

[@jeffmcauliff5315]

Need to cover the pallets ,the Uv rays kill plastic. Maybe look at carport covers or containers to keep them out of the weather.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

The company says there uv resistant but to be on the safe side we are going to cover the pallets of bundles with black plastic this winter . Thanks Jef

[@dono9879]

Hello Phil the yellow bags are bright and might catch the eye of a new customer driving by. It seems to make a better presentation and should help boost your sales. I believe you guys are on to something and if you show gas stations and stores what the finished product looks like they will be adding your product. Good luck.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thanks Don O we are testing them at a stand now to see how they do . As long as they hold up over the winter i think we will have something that will work for us .

[@jamessanders4310]

You replied to my comment about raising your price per bag. USing the yellow bag with the high quality bundle wood you use I would bet that your sales increase. Be the leader not one of the followers. Good luck and God bless..

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

At $6 ea or 3 for 15 we are a buck higher than everyone else . But im thinking when we get to the point that we cant keep up with demand we can always go up another buck . This is also our first yr having more than one stand so we are still in the learning stage .

[@jamessanders4310]

@@AllenFamilyFirewood : I always thought that you can lower prices anytime you want. Now, using the new yellow bags is the perfect time to raise them. The 3 for $15. The customer can option for the $5.00 deal.

[@leonardryan8723]

Phil little trick hog ring first about 1” apart them cut between the C clips . I got one ☝️ for building lobsters 🦞 trap heading Phil & Karen . Long Karen wear yellow panties good for 106 temperatures in the woodyard 😊.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

We tryed that also Leonard but because the opening on the gun is only just so big we have to twist the bag to fit in . We tryed it both ways but we are still learning this new way an im sure a few more days into it we will figure out a better way

[@jeffmcauliff5315]

Have you looked at strapping the bundles you can do that in metal or plastic

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

We have tryed that but after handling them the bundles loosen up an didnt work for us .

[@FortHowardFirewood]

Lumber Capitol Log Yard uses that mesh netting.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

A few people mentioned that so i went an looked them up Thanks

[@FortHowardFirewood]

I pass by their operation all the time … I believe you can see them from the highway and I have seen their finished product at gas stations through that area. They put a little dangle tag on the bag. Very professional these girls are. Their “Boss” lol has taught them very well. No waste process …

[@paulhoelscher6207]

If they are in the direct sunlight for a long period no they will deteriorate, but I have been selling the bags and they are quite strong and hold up well.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

All our stands have clear plastic roofs an the bags would be made in the winter an stored outside . Do you make the bags up just before you put them out or are you doing them in advance . They do seem like they work great but its alot to risk putting up 50 cord in them not knowing . The yellow stuff is uv resistant an seems alot stronger for half the money . Still alot of risk either way . We got a bunch of them red bags with the wolf ridge bagger so maybe we will try storing some of them as well over the winter to kinda do a test .

[@Dorchwoods]

Down here in oob i run the ez bagger and do 1500 firewood bags a summer. The ez bagger makes it so easy to about 60 bags an hour

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

I will have to look up a video on one of them we did 80 the other day but didnt look to see how long it took us . What kind of bags do you use .

[@Dorchwoods]

@@AllenFamilyFirewood I like to get the 25"x25" plain red mesh bags from globebag out of Massachusetts. They're stretchy and work well with the ez bagger. They're roughly 40-45 cents a bag

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

@@Dorchwoods Thanks Nick i will go ck them out .

[@mikehughes2026]

I’m with you Phil, I try like heck to avoid all that Chinese made crap! The mesh looks like the way to go. Think about a Allen Family flyer to put on top with the words “Use scissors only to open”- we live in a time with not to bright people ( and could be sue-happy). Gotta cover your Ash!! Take care🇺🇸

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

The flyer would have to go in the bag or stick on the outside and it would have to be laminated because its going to be out all winter . My buddy dana over at smore firewood said i should get a branding iron made up an brand a piece of wood in ea bundle . He might just be on to something there .

[@jasonpeterson9276]

Bags are definately the way to go.. we do potatoe bags thru uline and dont cost much.. just make sure they have uv poly mixed in than they will last for a while.. last winter we bagged in mn and still selling em now. Buy by the bulk tho.. alot cheaper. I usually order 20,000 plus bags at a time just for the savings. Keep innovating the process.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thanks i will ck out uline for the uv poly potato bags are they a usa company .

[@jasonpeterson9276]

@AllenFamilyFirewood yes.. they have warehouses full all over the place. Been using them for products since 2016 i believe.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

@@jasonpeterson9276 nice i will look them up tonight thanks for the info again

[@jasonpeterson9276]

@AllenFamilyFirewood not a problem. Would rather help people out than watch people struggle

[@carllewis8203]

I hope the bags work out for you

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thanks Cecil bagging it green an stacking to dry over the winter is going to save us a ton of time . Air flow threw the wood is the key part .

[@RNrob84]

I can tell you from personal experience that the bags deteriorate VERY quickly in the sun. Not just fade but to the point of ripping in less than a month here in Texas. I have also seen a couple of videos on other channels that have had the same issues

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Ya thats what we have learned also . The yellow bags we are using now will hold up they are 10 times stronger and uv resistant

[@RNrob84]

I’m going to have to get some and try them out

[@jamessanders4310]

I think the yellow mesh bags are better because customers can see the wood they are getting. Raise your price $1.00. Sales will hold up as everything is costing more, why not your firewood...

[@DanielAtkinsFirewood]

I sell bulk wood for home heating, and this year, I went up a lot. And so fsr no one is complaining..

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Most everyone ive seen in this area charges $5 or less an trust me on the rd we are selling on theres a stand every mile or 2 . We went with $6 ea or 3 for $15 an its worked out ok . The mesh bags will let us bag the wood green right off the splitter this winter instead of stacking it then bagging it after it has dried . The yellow really stands out when driving by the stand so thats a big plus .

[@sethdaniel2657]

Do you have the links to the tools you used to bag firewood and the tool you used to tie the bags? (The gun)

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

I dont have a link we got the hog ring gun on Amazon and we also bought the hog rings there as well

[@stannelson2582]

Lil zip ties may work if people don’t want to buy the hog ring gun. Or a knot

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

We did try the zip ties an they work great its just slow weaving them threw i think the first 20 i did with zip ties then i ordered the gun because zip ties were about 1 cent pr zip tie an the hog rings were 10,000 for 40 bucks .

[@traceychristopher933]

How far away are y'all's bundles stands miles and minutes please!!!!

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Probably about 5 miles apart an with no traffic 8 min but on a fri or sat in the summer it could be 30 min and there are 2 other wood stands between them .

[@Travman22]

Hey just seen your video pretty sweet. The wrap sucks they brake when they get wet. The firewood bags are great but I noticed they will fade in color over time in the sun. How well do the nets hold up over time.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

We just started using the yellow bags but I’ve compared them to the red bags an the material is more than twice as thick it’s also uv resistant so the sun won’t degrade them . The other big plus is there half the cost but you have to make the bags yourself .

[@Travman22]

Sweet that's for the info. I use the mesh bags but the sun is no good for long periods of time. I like your idea they look nice and can fit lorger pieces in them making it more then a cubic foot.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

@@Travman22 it is nice to be able to make the bags any length you want or leave a tail for a handle

[@Travman22]

Yeah I agree and they air dry. Only thing I would change is I would put a buisness card in every bag. I started to do that and found alot of new customers that want a face cord. Word of mouth spreads like grass fire.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

@@Travman22 we tryed the flyer in the wrapped bundles but didn’t get anything from it . I’d like to keep doing that but I’d have to find something water proof that was inexpensive what did you use

[@strengthstuff7618]

how did you guys purchase the netting? i didnt see anywhere to checkout at there website

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

we bought it from Quadel Industries you can look up their website they are in Oregon seems like it will work really well but we're running a test to see how the bundles hold up over the winter because we want to do them up ahead of time and store them so they're ready to go in the spring thanks for watching!

[@jameschandler2776]

One of the biggest problems in the world is plastic. It takes hundreds of years to go away and in the meantime, as it breaks down, it gets in our food chain through animals getting it in small pieces in the water. I could have a big firewood business, because I live in a tourist, camping, hiking area. I will not wrap in plastic or use plastic bags. I have made some bundles with jute twine, but they don't stay tight. I mainly sell loose firewood. I tried to get the guy that makes the Amish bundler to design one that uses twine. Havn't heard back from him. I understand that these are the only proven ways to run a bundle business but there has to be a better way.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Im with ya James not a fan of plastic but right now the wrap or the bags is about the only good option for doing large amounts of bundle wood for us .

[@richardbrowne1679]

I think it’s a really great concept. It seems to be more time consuming then wrapping. Not sure if there are any requirements in Maine to label quantities of a product sold. Tags might be an option for labeling, especially if you could secure it with the ring when you close the seal the bag.

[@billyrosenbaum968]

I think Capitol Lumber Woodyard uses them.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

I will have to ck them out i think ive watched them before 2 girls sawing lumber on a woodmizer if i remember right . I didnt know they did firewood also . Thanks Billy

[@DaveJohnsonad5nm]

.80c per bag? Wow, I'm near the Colorado potato country and and the firewood guys here are buying through the potato farms for .10c per bag. Heck, I thought that was a bit high.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Ive only ever seen potato bags be paper with a mesh window in the front . Out your way do they bag them in all mesh bags ? I will try an find some pics of the bags from out your way .

[@DaveJohnsonad5nm]

@@AllenFamilyFirewood yes, here in the southwest they use the mesh. I haven't seen paper potato bags in many years.

[@robertdaigle5529]

Hey guys I'll come down and give you a hand Karen you can keep the skirt let Phil where the day I come down and maybe I'll even rent a trailer and bring down the new toy I got

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Robert i will give you a call tomorrow or monday

[@peternobst2945]

Hi Phil and Karen ,ich mache das schon 20 Jahre ich brauche Eure Adresse und ich schicke Anleitung wie das Holz in die Säcke kommt gredings aus dem Erzgebirge Deutschland Gute Besserung

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Peter please send us a email at allenfamilyfirewood @gmail.com

[@MicrogreenGems]

Soooooo I will pay for shipping for your old Twister machine!

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Lol i bought that wraper for $400 at a yard sale . Its the cheapest way to wrap bundles in my opinion so if we run out next summer we will be swapping back to that rather than the bags .

[@MicrogreenGems]

@@AllenFamilyFirewood Never Hurts to ask! Get better soon with your thumb. Keep up the great content!!!!

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

@@MicrogreenGems We think the same way lol.

[@cecilwells-tm4ss]

do you think danna need a hog ring LOL👍🤓

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Ha Ha im not sure but if is does im his guy to get it done lol.

[@leonardryan8723]

Karen THINK 🤔 SAFETY went use a hog gun SAFETY FIRST around Phil ! 😊

[@karenallen8581]

I’m steering clear of him using that gun Leonard! He’s accident prone! Lol 😂😊

[@johnwoody4905]

good video captiol lumber yard use the mesh make you own bags that would save labor. if not for insurance i would have pay a lot more than you did for tractor when i broke arm they still tryed to get $10,000 more out of me i call insurance and was told i didn't owe them any thing but $435 doolars i had already paid$ 2,115. so karen you watch out and you look good in mesh . take care, be safe and well.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Im gona have to go look there video up a few people have mentioned them using mesh bags . Ive always ben self employed so no insurance when i get stove up but we just keep picking off a lil at a time . Probably going to take a long time to pay the med bills off from this time but it will get done . Im going to bring that mesh skirt home an leave it on top of her dresser an see how that works out lol.

[@SKFirewood]

Just don't be leaving the bags in the sun for to long as they get bleached by the sun and rip

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Do you think the yellow ones will do that also it sure seems there alot stronger . Over the winter we are going to put black plastic over the pallets of bundles just in case to be safe.

[@SKFirewood]

@AllenFamilyFirewood can't speak for the yellow one's but the red one's for sure, that was my plan just cover them up or store inside

[@sirwallygator565]

I would never buy wood in a bag.. I want to see what I am buying and most people that bought bags of wood got garbage wood... Rapped wood you can see what you are buying

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

I think the yellow bag shows the wood better than a wrapped bundle but buying from someone that sells loose stacks of wood you definitely would have a better idea of how the wood would look before you bought it . Most everyone around here is camping an just wants dry wood to burn in a camp fire .

[@leonardryan8723]

Your right Phil keep your money into USA 🇺🇸 state or company. In your state you can hog clips at lobster 🦞 gear store Phil . Look 👀 like build Ford tough . Hog clip hand plier are own $15 Phil . 😊

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

I tryed one of them plyers for the hog rings they do one ring at a time an the rings that fit them are about .05 ea . They work but there slow and exspensive

[@peternobst2945]

Hi Karen and Phil mein internet will nicht wie es soll habt Ihr Instagram hab schon Bilder fertig gemacht Gruß Peter

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Hi Peter not sure what you mean we are not on instagram