Innova's Best New DISTANCE DRIVER In Years!!!

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[@matthewwilson7802]

Every time a content creator says a disc is going in the bag. I wish they would say what's coming out, what it's replacing❤

[@Pianoplayerhenry101]

NEVER REPLACE, JUST GET BIGGER BAG

[@Pianoplayerhenry101]

never replace, just get bigger bag lol

[@cosmolean]

I love the Beast so can't wait to try this one. I'm stopping by my local shop today and hope they're in stock.

[@fathomz]

every new disc IS THE BEST DISC. until the next one comes out

[@palestalemale8831]

The best disc is the next one I throw.

[@davesage4931]

I picked up a star one at the shop today and am pumped to try it tomorrow. Looked like those things bombed for you.

[@MegaLaban12345]

MVP is on top of the game when it comes to changing flight numbers between plastics. Great to see innova following suit’

[@MOTM_]

Ya I throw mostly mvp/axiom I was going to say they’re great at this

[@edithkramer7689]

Historically, Innova was the first company to change flight numbers between plastics. The champ boss and the star boss had different flight numbers (13, 5, 0, 3/13, 5, -1, 3) back in like 2013/2014 was when I first noticed it.

[@shamanschlong]

this has been done by numerous companies at different points in time, consistency is the issue

[@markmcgarity]

@@shamanschlong innova doesn't have it..every run is different🤣

[@shamanschlong]

@@markmcgarity along with every company

[@Str8Flossin]

Just picked up a first run in star plastic. It’s in the bag after the first throw. amazing disc

[@Kwritter66]

Nice review. What weights are the discs? I got a 170g on the way! excited to test it out. I am a huge fan of the Beast mold so interesting to see how they compare.

[@TheCC89]

Calling out disc weight and rough distance thrown would be nice. Looked like a crush, but saying it went really far for me with no context, could mean anything from 250' to 500'.

[@TheOpacus]

So Innova finally realized plastic type affects stability? 😅

[@Exploitiv]

The Gstar flight numbers go the opposite way in ice cold weather. And even flipper in the hot summer.

[@dsb1829]

Interesting I suppose, I throw a Valkyrie as my flippy driver. Seems like this is a very similar disc, more dome and rim width to add flip and distance.

[@ericjepson3765]

It has a 2.1 cm rim making it an 11 speed disc. Interestingly though it's like the opposite of the "3 series" discs. When Innova flattens the top they increase the speed by 1 and reduce the glide by 1. I've heard that the Gorgon has a bit of a dome so maybe they did the opposite and reduced the speed by 1 and increased the glide by 1. Looks like it's right between the Mystere and the Mamba, both of which I bomb.

[@willroan324]

There are more factors determining speed than width of the rim. Discs of any particular speed level have never shared the same wing width across the board. Profile, nose - anything that affects the drag coefficient also effects the speed a disc achieves for any given power level. So, no, it's width does NOT make it an 11 speed disc. Innova makes it a 10 speed, because they've done the testing.

[@keyelectric91]

I know you threw pro beasts from a old video but the star gorgon seems to fly like my gstar beast maybe a tick less stable with similar fade though. I might get a gorgon to fit between my tumbleweed and champion beast once I get back to 10 speeds.

[@ViJt-oq5nq]

Check out the Viking Discs Ragnarok in storm plastic, it's actually rated 11 5 -2 1 for their 'advanced' users. A solid driver

[@IamTBUCK]

Have you thrown it next to the Discmania TD? Curious your thoughts on both. Maybe wait for the new MVP Trail and you can do a comparison with all three?

[@thomasmadigan6083]

Bought one today at the Flight Factory in Pensacola.

[@crimsontide1980]

When I woke up this morning, had no idea Id be watching Tyler Durden throw discs, but here we are

[@IceBergTV]

Lol

[@McSlobo]

Invictus has also 10, 4, 0, 3 for Star/Champ and 10, 5, -1, 2 for GStar. Doubt Star and Champ are equally beefy but here we go. Comparison between Gorgon, Invictus, Beast, Avenger, Sapphire, F Model US,, whatever, needed.

[@nagapamp]

Seems like a beat in Orc…… love it

[@brannnnnnn]

Beast tho

[@willroan324]

​@brannnnnnn That beast is out of production. The original mold beast(x, whatever you want to call it) that's back in production has the same stability as the orc with a fraction of the axial tilt, so it is less likely to turn and burn, and fades with more glide instead of dumping. Been throwing them both in a variety of weights and plastics since 2005.

[@brannnnnnn]

@@willroan324 ahh the oldest beast i have is barry 2x - it is more stable mold than gorgon for sure

[@jackmehoff6302]

Might like the g star as a high altitude disc. I play at 8,000 often

[@mchankerhoff853]

I need one now

[@javman7339]

Thanks for your videos. Really enjoy and trust your reviews

[@721Samson]

Woop woop

[@jbrind00]

I want to see a showdown between the Gorgon, Alva and Function.

[@charleslowery1639]

Dillion when will there be some more Star Gorgon’s available they are sold out.

[@brandonfbomb_2327]

Sooo, an Innova freetail. Sweet

[@MegaLaban12345]

@@brandonfbomb_2327 no one knows wtf a freetail is

[@emellrob]

What are the weights of these discs?

[@michaelbrown1690]

Super beast

[@jasonmalyon209]

Are you using a ball golf green as a tee😮

[@JensenAzotea]

Some courses have a disc golf course that literally cuts across golf courses and you can even use a golf cart

[@DJ.1001]

looks like a faster roadrunner. I dont have the arm for anything over speed 9 but this looks like a solid release.

[@Ishiisan]

It feels similar to Roadrunner.

[@matthewwilson7802]

I have similar arm speed. I've been throwing a 146 G Innova tern. It's been surprising me. Maybe you should try❤🤘🏼

[@DJ.1001]

@@matthewwilson7802 I've had my Thunderbird / Valkyrie / Roadrunner trio for a very long time. All of them in the mid 160s, it's too windy and wooded here for super light discs. Can't see ever switching.

[@daveslocum5625]

@@matthewwilson7802 this is a 10 speed tern, which is what i love. then beat up a tl3 and you have an 8 speed tern and all your drivers are set

[@AB8606SbG]

Looks like the same flight as my s-line dd.

[@southtoe3607]

The Beast, but better

[@jovanlouis4791]

Beat in wraith 😎

[@brandonklemets2958]

Mystere

[@benjaminhoff5004]

​@brandonklemets2958 Mystere is a beefy run of Mamba, this is a 10-11 speed Shryke. Different shape

[@Joeaxtell]

Just got one and it reminds me of my centurion from infinite but more distance

[@julianseyal]

Man I’m starting to feel the centurion hype. It’s different than a crave right? Also isn’t the centurion a mix of two innova molds? I forget which.

[@Joeaxtell]

@@julianseyal yeah it’s a leopard bottom with the fd top. It’s very comparable to a crave for me, but the crave holds up better on forehand.

[@aron4117]

Yes get a centurion. Good hyzer flip disc. Don’t be afraid to get one in halo not has a beefy as you think

[@julianseyal]

@@Joeaxtell would you say there is a reason to bag both crave and centurion? I have a really beat in crave I like for late hyzer flips but maybe a disc that is like that out of the box.

[@Joeaxtell]

@@julianseyal probably not, I live up at 4500’ so my discs fly a little different. I can get the same flights from both discs pretty easily and consistently I sometimes just have overlap in my bag for practicing repeat shots.

[@MolinaFarler]

All dat kislux bags sssssoooooooo gorgeous

[@user-dz6tx8tc1w]

🤔 the charger is the best Innova mold this yr

[@originalsh4rpie372]

This is literally a remake of the old star, pre flight number SLs which are highly collectible and sought after discs.

[@mmarch1361]

Starfire Longs are Infinite Aztecs now.

[@Mdjagg]

Except these look like they have a big dome. All of my SL's are nearly board flat and still fly like this, with good glide too.

[@stuartschwenke6656]

So what is the difference with this versus the Innova Beast?

[@stuartschwenke6656]

Rim Width is 2.1, same as an Innova Wraith width. Beast has 2.0 rim width with what looks like the same wing.

[@julianseyal]

I personally love these numbers. Have you thrown the sapphire in gold orbit plastic? It has good stability and goes FAR. Great control it’s what people want the TD to be.

[@chainraiderdiscgolf]

It is about time that Innova adjusted their flight ratings. I did a video on the Valkyrie, DX vs Halo. They have completely different flights BUT, the same numbers... I do have a Pro and Champion, Tern and they did adjust the flight ratings between the two which was nice to see.

[@GreatestMediaTeam]

Oh Oh. Following....

[@sierra734]

Tfs❤

[@Roxas6662]

Cant see disc when thrown. Always an issue.

[@Gh0stz9211]

Look closer maybe. I can see it just fine

[@crimsontide1980]

​@@Gh0stz9211 Same!!

[@ryansuter4424]

Finally different flight numbers for discs that actually fly different 🎉

[@fathomz]

everyone says the pro is a flipster

[@markmcgarity]

@@fathomz pro plastic has always been less stable, champion plastic the most stable

[@timrenaud8673]

I love your reviews but watch how much you’re throwing off of the ball golf green. You’ll leave tons of bumps and bumps where you’re pivoting on your throw. Maybe just throw from the fringe in front of the green?

[@ellisj98]

im tempted but might have to stick with my 139 destroyer for now 😂

[@chrissheafer]

The flight numbers have been a joke. The guy who built the robotic thrower....all disc golf companys need to have one so they can give true numbers

[@Chillydall02]

Or do what Scott Stokely is doing with his disc brand and don’t give the disc flight numbers. Let the community decide the numbers through a poll or vote of some kind. Wouldn’t be perfect but would probably be a lot more accurate.

[@mattpagel6681]

MVP already changes flight numbers to plastic types

[@Beeneyb]

Innova has for years.

[@RaleighRich]

Same flight numbers as the Sidewinder. Except it's a "10 speed". Not buying it. I have a stable champion, max weight, Sidewinder that serves a purpose in that slot, in my bag.......😊

[@Picklemedia]

Using the golf green as a t-pad is pretty ignorant

[@IceBergTV]

@@Picklemedia normally id agree, but im the only one who uses the property

[@Picklemedia]

​@@IceBergTVand keeping it manicured for "only one" person isn't?

[@IceBergTV]

@@Picklemedia it is what it is

[@mad85123]

Charger is better. Only disc that has gotten me past 500’.

[@brannnnnnn]

Not similar discs

[@fleshcastlee]

It’s meh, super flippy right out of the box. Had to hyzerflip each throw