Hawker Tempest - Britain's Apex Fighter

[@AllthingsWW2]

Sorry for the long wait for this video, things will pick up now, once again. Next will be a Japanese aircraft, one that is less known. Until then, thank you for watching.

[@smigoltime]

Ki-46 maybe ? :D

[@rodneypayne4827]

​@@smigoltime I could name 5 very important and widely used Japanese aircraft that that don't get the recognition they deserve. Eg.Ki45 Toryu and Ki 44 Shoki fighters.

[@smigoltime]

@@rodneypayne4827 G3M and G4M, H6K and H8K, Ki-45 and Ki-46, Ki-44... yea

[@FirstDagger]

@@smigoltime ; Basically the entire War Thunder Japanese tech tree besides the Zero, Val and Kate.

[@AllthingsWW2]

I've been toying around with the "Dinah" idea for a while, but no, it will be far less known than the Ki-46! I don't think you've shot this one down in Warthunder!

[@callenclarke371]

This video leaves no stone unturned. Sixteen and a half minutes and just about every question I have about this aircraft has been answered. Well done.

[@ArmandoRibeiro-pl1wu]

Awesome!!

[@brucefairbanks6254]

David Fairbanks was my uncle. I thank you for this video, in the name of "The Terror of the Rhine"

[@chickenfist1554]

You should be very proud, especially today. His service is appreciated.

[@ianedmonds9191]

That's amazing! He lives on in legend. Luv and Peace.

[@alienfish8521]

Legend. You should be proud.

[@smokeyhunterparrot]

Just 2 weeks ago I was standing right next to a Tempest MK2 that will soon be airworthy. It will be the only one flying in the world. Big and beautiful bird! It's at the KF Center for Excellence, in Kelowna British Columbia Canada. They also have a de Havilland Mosquito, one of 4 flying worldwide.

[@tonykeith76]

I read that somebody is working to make airworthy even a TempestV with the Napier Sapre..

[@chrishartley4553]

@@tonykeith76 This one? kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGGzhpiLpNBjo6s

[@animaltvi9515]

Actually there's as also a mk2 at Sywell airfield in England. Ot is currently having its engine test runs. It should fly later this year. . Making it 2 airworthy tempest 2s.

[@animaltvi9515]

​@TonyKeith76 last I heard there is only one complete tempest 5 and that I'd a static display in the RAF museum london. . There is a typhoon being slowly restored to flight at Duxford England

[@dalemartell8639]

The KF Tempest has a P&W 2800 engine in it so technically it isn't a "real" Mk2. They did that because of the lack of Centaur engines.

[@Spitfiresammons]

In fact not only did the Tempest pilots manage to shooting down both the Me-262s and Ar-234s but one Tempest pilot Flg Off Geoffrey Walkington from RAF 222 squadron did manage to shot down a Heinkel He-162 from iii./jg1 on the 19 April 1945 he was the only Allied pilot to be credited with a He-162 kill of WW2.

[@williamzk9083]

The jets had a speed of 500mph at sea level (520 for me 262) the tempest with its fancy 150PN fuel 400mph. I think this just gets down to the Luftwaffe being out numbered and it’s air fields constantly patrolled. A He 162 almost certainly shot down a Tempest so the score is about even. It was a fast powerful aircraft for sure but it lacked the two stage inter cooled supercharger of the Griffon spitfire or the up coming Ta 152 or Fw 190D12/13

[@Rom3_29]

Most of the German jet fighters, V1 & V2 were assembled by (work to the death) slave labor. Under horrific inhuman conditions. Other thing, jet engines were slow to pickup speed. If the pilot was not trained and most weren’t, they’d get shot down. Large number of 262s were shot down while landing. But that’s my limited 2 cents.

[@loveofmangos001]

I don't find shooting down a 162 impressive or amazing at all considering the Nazis wanted Hitler Youth to fly them. It was probably the easiest kill of the war

[@comikdebris]

A teenage pilot story also shot down in a He 162 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rp6top2ubruJga8

[@siemveneman9091]

Aphex fighter😂😂!? British rustbucket

[@neiloflongbeck5705]

Camm designed the Typhoon wingmin line with a NACA report of 1938 which stated that laminar-flow wungs had no benefit over traditional shapes. But a year later it was noticed that turbulence in NACA's windtunnel was affecting the results of aerofoil tests. The efficiency of some of the aerofoil shapes were wrong and NACA put out a revised report with the efficency figures corrected. But it was now too late for a redesign of the Typhoon. Source: Aeroplane, December 2021.

[@basilreid257]

😮😮😮

[@papalegba6796]

A man of Camm's experience should have known better than to trust NACA data.

[@bobsakamanos4469]

Camm also designed thick wings on the Typhoon despite knowing it was the reason for the Hurricane's poor performance. He was a stubborn man and poor project manager who lost some good engineers as a result.

[@cyborgbadger1015]

@@bobsakamanos4469 Typically british a clever man but also a stick in the mud.

[@bobsakamanos4469]

@@cyborgbadger1015 never categorize someone by their race or country. RJ Mitchell by contrast was a brilliant team leader. Camm chased away a number of good talent including Shenstone.

[@pencilpauli9442]

For those not familiar with the Typhoon, the structural problem was resolved with "fishplate" strengtheners on the rear fuselage. Later production models also had larger area Tempest tailplanes, and a four blade propeller. AFAIK the Sabre engine could set on fire on start up and there had to be fire extinguishers on standby. The info on the thick chord wing was interesting. It was of course similar to the slower Hurricane. Sidney Camm and his Hawkers team were tops imho!

[@johnmclean6498]

It was actually solved with the redesign and strengthening of the mass balance unit for the elevators, which was the cause of flutter and failure. One broke while a Typhoon was taxying and that's how they found it. The fishplates were a "belts and braces" fix until they found the cause.

[@Dave5843-d9m]

The engine used a Coffman starter. Pilots had to use the correct amount of fuel prime. Too little prime needed too many start attempts also risking fire.

[@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935]

Pilots died long after the fix was made available, the squadrons had to find the significant down-time to do the remedial work and sometimes the war work took precedence, the pilots were in basic terms expendable. Camm blamed the Hawker aerodynamicists for the thick wing, they assured him that there was no aerodynamic drawback with a thick aerofoil based on some confused research studies. I was privileged to hear Bee Beamont give an inspiring test pilot talk, he said the RAF and air ministry wanted the Typhoon replacement to have a wing just like the Spitfire’s. R.J. Mitchell’s inspired mid 1930s best guess worked really well and they wanted it repeated.

[@williamzk9083]

@@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935 so why did cam insist on putting a wing a 19% thick wing on the typhoon same as the hurricane. The only difference is that hurricane was Clark Y and typhoon NACA 2219 according to the incomplete guide to airfoil usage. This is thicker than Sunderland flying boat

[@neiloflongbeck5705]

Camm based thenwing on an erroneous NACA report on laminar-flow wings which wasn't corrected until too late for a redesign.

[@mikehipperson]

Many years ago I knew a former RAF pilot who was one of the first to fly the Typhoon when it entered service. His squadron had been told about the shortcomings of the aircraft and the 'Do Not Exceed' speed in a dive. Being a bit of a lad, he wanted to see what happened if he did. He woke up in hospital with multiple injuries and his commander informed him that, due to the known tail weakness plus the 'compressability' problem, his aircraft had shaken itself to bits and he was recovered from the wreck that consisted of the engine, it's mounting frame and what was left of the cockpit. Everything behind the seat and both wings were gone! Needless to say he was given a desk to fly for the rest of the war!

[@callenclarke371]

I have it on good authority that loss of the tail affects flight characteristics. ;)

[@kitmoore9969]

He crashed into the ground at over 600mph and ... he woke up in hospital? Did you know: there's no such word as "gullible" in the dictionary?

[@Geoff-m7j]

That’s a bit of a stretch. I don’t think too many would buy that one.

[@robshirewood5060]

@@kitmoore9969 A number of pilots died when the tail detached i do not see that story as credible. A few also died when crash landing when the chin intake caused the aircraft to dig in and flip over.

[@marcelfermer5369]

I liked very much the archive pictures, especially that of the great Pierre Closterman with his Grand Charles. Great video!

[@robshirewood5060]

The Big Show and Flames in the Sky are great books by this Free French hero in his beautiful aircraft.

[@williammunson3615]

In the book "I fought you from the skies" by Willi Heilman who was a FW 190 pilot on the wester front during WWII feared seeing the Tempest. He was moved to the Dora model after they were supplied, Squadron 54 the "Green Hearts". Novotny was his Co. until he was moved to the Me262 and Willi became the Sq. leader. The only fighters he and his mates hated were the P-47, later model Spitfires and Tempests. P-51's were easy meat, P-38's were also and Typhoons included but the other three were the only ones they hated to go up against. The Tempest, although in small numbers, was a considerable enemy.

[@JoeyMills-y3v]

The Tempest V was a very stable & accurate gun platform. 4 x Hispano Mk 5 cannon were as powerful as 5 x Hispano Mk 2, as they had a higher rate of fire. So it was extremely dangerous to be in the Tempests sights for any amount of time. Really not suited for ground attack though, the radiator was extremely vulnerable.

[@kimhewitt921]

Thank you! Informative and the artworks cool. Of course as an englishman the Spit flows in our veins...as an aviation enthusiast it's great to see the Tempest get the recognition it deserves.

[@kepler186f4]

What an excellent comparison video... I loved the Tiffy.... until I watched this...

[@stevetheduck1425]

The Hawker 'family' of fighter planes really begins with the Fury, Fury II, and High-Speed Fury biplanes. A revision of this aircraft led to the monoplane Hurricane, with parallel Henley and Hotspur (a turret fighter). The Hurricane was replaced with the Typhoon and the parallel Tornado, which trialled some major improvements, both of these fed into the first Typhoon II and Tempests. The last planes in this family are the smaller Fury and Sea Fury. The next design to fly was the entirely new Hawker Hawk jet, with the Sea Hawk being the more successful design, flying into the 1970s with the Indian Navy.

[@bobsakamanos4469]

The probelm with Camm was that it took him 10 years between the Fury Monoplane and a front line fighter (Tempest). That's a loooong time in a period of rapid wartime aviation changes.

[@dovidell]

At last !!, an easy to understand , and informative video about The Hawker Tempest , and why it came to be , and why the MK5 preceded the MK2

[@Wollemand]

I have always wondered about the difference between a Tempest and a Typhoon.. Thanks for clearing that up ♥️ Great upload

[@chrispacer4231]

I’m building a HELLER 1/72 HAWKER TEMPEST, it’s almost ready for the airbrushing… also displaying it on a airfield DIORAMA… Glad I watched this… CHRIS from OHIO 🇺🇸

[@AllthingsWW2]

Sounds cool!

[@markhepworth]

Nice 👍

[@kellyshistory306]

Solid video. Enjoyed the parts on its combat history and how it was organized into wings and such.

[@AllthingsWW2]

Thank you.

[@unclebullfrog7319]

Another great video. The Tempest is largely the unsung fighter of WWII. Just a point of clarification regarding 486 squadron: the pilots were mostly all Kiwis and started with the RNZAF in New Zealand, they joined a RAF squadron when they arrived in the UK, usually after further training in the Empire training scheme in Canada. The squadron should read:- No. 486 (NZ) squadron RAF. this also applies to 485 (NZ) (spitfire), 487 (NZ) (Mosquito) and 75 (NZ) bomber (Wellington and Lancaster). Of those 75 squadron post war transferred to the RNZAF only disbanding in the 2000s when the Labour government scrapped our combat wing of RNZAF as a cost cutting measure! Keep up the good work mate.

[@MartinMcAvoy]

Does that mean that many of the NZ pilots were fairly new to frontline aircraft when the were posted to the Tempest squadron? Compared to Harvard trainers, the Tempest would have been a monster to tame! They were very brave lads!

[@RobBremner]

You put 485 instead of 486 for the Tempest Squadron, 485 was Spitfires. BTW I don't think the photo at 13:30 is of 486.

[@AllthingsWW2]

Thank you for the correction. I will further look into this issue so I won't make the same mistake in the future. About the photo at 13:30, this image is in Wikipedia on the page of No. 486 (NZ) Squadron. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._486_Squadron_RNZAF#/media/File:486SqnVolkers1945.JPG

[@RobBremner]

@@AllthingsWW2 I looked through "The Wild Winds", a history of 486 Squadron by Paul Sortehaug, and the photo is of 486 but was taken at Kestrup in June 1945.

[@unclebullfrog7319]

@@RobBremner Sorry Rob, a typo. It should have been 486.

[@petermallia558]

Don't forget the changes to the tail as well as the chin intake and the wings and engine types. That massive prop, awesome. Very enjoyable video. 🇬🇧 You mentioned everything I said. 👍🏻

[@AllthingsWW2]

Thank you!

[@FireDragon16180]

Thank you for the video, the engine of this aircraft was a remarkable engineering achievement, so powerful; really appreciate your work and this channel 👍

[@AllthingsWW2]

Thank you! I can only imagine having 2,000 hp available on single-engine aircraft, but I suspect it would get me killed quite fast!

[@theartofflying3108]

​@@AllthingsWW2 what is the last sequence of the video from?? It seems to be a pc game. How is it called?

[@AntonioLopes-db5ih]

​@@theartofflying3108Warthunder is the name of the game

[@jaakkooksa5374]

Pierre Closterman was a Frenchman who flied in the RAF, achieving a large number of aerial victories. His biography contains a lot of interesting storied about the Tempest aircraft, which he flew.

[@MegaSimplysimon]

Le Grande Charles

[@jerrymail]

"The Big Show" (Le Grand Cirque), awesome book !

[@stickandruddermfl]

Closterman was actually born in Brazil (Curitiba), so at least technically he is Brazilian :-). Le Grand Cirque was the book that good me hooked into aviation, 40-odd years ago :-).

[@sim.frischh9781]

*flew. Irregular word. English can be such an annoying language, right? ;)

[@erwanparcelier8745]

​@@stickandruddermfl It's true he was born in Brazil but he was only a French citizen.

[@Karnov1977]

Been waiting on a new video. Your videos are the best overview of WWII aircraft on KZbin I think.

[@AllthingsWW2]

Thank you! Hopefully, I will pick up the pace once again. Aiming for a new video in two weeks time.

[@gerrycoogan6544]

This is an excellent video. Meticulous details and tremendous photograph research make this both educational and entertaining.

[@MartinMcAvoy]

This is the first video of yours I have watched and you did well. You are not a native English speaker but your accent is confident, authoritative and very impressive. I look forward to more of your content!

[@AllthingsWW2]

Thank you!

[@MrMan5014]

The Tempest was such an overlooked fighter plane!..I’m so glad you made a video on it!..if you looked quickly at the MkII and the Seafury you would think they were the same!…I would have loved to see how the Seafury would have faired against Axis aircraft…in my opinion I believe it was the best mass produced fighter plane ever made…the Bearcat would be a very close second!…the only plane that I think could have given them both a run for their money would be the Goodyear built F2G Corsair…

[@jacktattis]

No allied radial plane could match the Spitfire or the Tempest even after the MkIX Focke Wulf went to liquid cooled engines

[@conordia6906]

Great video thanks, special compliments to the narration. Great pacing and content. So many videos have crazy fast voiceovers. Yours is perfect. ❤❤

[@Demun1649]

My favourite video, of yours, was the one on the Dewoitine D.520. It deserves the publicity

[@coolhand1964]

I believe the Hawker Sea Fury, as used in Korea, proved itself to be the pinnacle of piston engined fighters.

[@guaporeturns9472]

What a beauty

[@WoodsmanHobo777]

I wonder which is the best, Sea Fury or Bearcat

[@jacktattis]

Gee you will draw the crabs

[@coolhand1964]

@@jacktattis Part of the joy of not being an American. But seriously, they both came from the same company and if you've ever seen one in flight, you would understand why.

[@jacktattis]

@@coolhand1964 What came from the same company?. It appears one of my replies was lost

[@stephenbesley3177]

Loved the Tempest and the Sea Fury was one of the most impressive aeroplanes I've ever seen for a prop fighter.. Blisteringly fast, a real gem.

[@WoodsmanHobo777]

And Bearcat, I believe the Sea Fury and Bearcat were the best piston fighters ever made. I just wonder which one would be considered the best of the two.

[@boemher15]

SeaFury was better

[@StartledPancake]

Another great video. As a Brit, its really great to hear the correct terminology "British and commonwealth forces". At no point in the war to Britain stand alone.

[@AllthingsWW2]

Thank you!

[@hawnyfox3411]

New Zealander Sqdn Ldr Bob Spurdle seen at 10:26 clashed with 8th AF USAAF P.51 Mustangs whilst at Vokel His book (published in 1980) called "The Blue Arena" explains how 'trigger happy' P.51s bounced the Tempests "On Sortie 551 some USAAF Mustangs jumped us. Enraged, I turned on my particular tormenter scared him $hitless by firing bursts on one side then on the other while he twisted turned, he was totally helpless against the far superior Tempest. Formating alongside I shook my fist at the stupid jerk (wanker) then I zoomed away. We should have hacked a few down to teach them aircraft recognition. We were sick of their trigger-happy stupidities." That's just one part of one of the chapters from "The Blue Arena" originally published in 1980 (still available in paperback

[@jacktattis]

Yes it happened frequently .

[@jameswebb4593]

That will have Mustang loving Yanks choking on their coffee .

[@jeremyrichards8327]

Excellent description of a superb and underrated aircraft. The Typhoons were nicknamed " Robson's" due to their ability to catch fire on startup. Yes poor data from NACA meant the design was hamstrung from the start. However as always the British made the Typhoon into a superb ground attack aircraft with a mighty punch. Beaumont heaped praise on the Tempest when he flew it and Pierre Clostermann's book The Big Show is well worth reading.

[@AllthingsWW2]

Thank you! Yes, I loved The Big Show, such an entertaining book. I never got around to reading anything written by Beaumont, unfortunately. Now my next one is going to be "Reach for the Sky." The story of Douglas Bader should've been something I read a long time ago.

[@jeremyrichards8327]

@@AllthingsWW2 Beamont gives a description of testing the Tempest in " Testing Years" amongst other aircraft including TSR2 which was way ahead of the opposition at the time.. I have just started reading "Wings on my Sleeve" by Eric " Winkle" Brown. Another wartime survivor and with a tribute comment from Bill Humble ( test pilot) who is in a famous Tempest picture flying from Langley. Don't forget the name is Beamont as it is frequently mis spelled.

[@peterwebb8732]

“Against the Sun” is Roland Beamont’s recounting of his experience of both Typhoon and Tempest. He rated it very highly.

[@silasfatchett7380]

Not 'Robsons' but 'Ronsons' after the Ronson cigarette lighter.

[@jeremyrichards8327]

@@silasfatchett7380 Yes thanks a typo on my part.

[@Mark_Williams.]

13:39 - As soon as I saw this picture, I was like, did this spawn the Sea Fury!? You quickly asnwered that question in the affirmative. Here in Australia we fielded those for quite some time. Great video! I learnt a lot.

[@MiKeMiDNiTe-77]

The Typhoon/Tempest/Fury family of great planes...super awesome some great pics shown here too.

[@classicreviews96180]

Hopefully gonna be a one or two airworthy Mk2 Tempest's soon. They had Tempests at my local WW2 airfield RAF Bradwell Bay during the war.

[@dennismason3740]

Thank you for this. I see so little data and pictures of the Tempest, this is refreshing. They just would not give up on the Tempest.

[@briansteffmagnussen9078]

To the end question. My answer is that it might not be piston powered,. But the Super Tucano shows that there are more potential in the prop driven planes. The Tempest would have deserved to get rid of the big lump for an turboprop engine. But if it had one the weight balance would probably cause an so dramatic change that the original design would need an complete workover.

[@mehere8-32]

I don't think Pierre Closterman had a high opinion of Fairbanks. Clostermans book "The Big Show" is very enlightening on several levels. Cheers mate.

[@Favk21]

Happy to see extra art in these videos!

[@kirknewton100]

Brilliant video, simple, understandable. Very enjoyable.

[@vladimirdorta6692]

Very interesting video about one of the great fighters of WW2. And thanks for naming Pierre Clostermann, I still remember his book "Le Grand Cirque" (The Big Show) fondly.

[@thebluegrocer]

Excellent and balanced summary of an interesting family of aircraft.

[@AllthingsWW2]

Thank you!

[@Extrikit]

Excellent comprehensive well researched and presented video. Fantastic graphics too. Well done!

[@davidgapp1457]

Well crafted and scripted video. A succinct analysis that is also spot-on in terms of aircraft type evaluation. Nice job!

[@ianhigh4354]

It should be noted that the 'outdated' Typhoon with it's excellent low altitude performance and high ordinance capacity played a significant role during and after D-DAY in the ground attack role whilst the Tempests were reserved as V1 killers. Thus proving that you can teach an old dog new tricks, and the demarcation of fighter / fighter-bomber aircraft into specialised roles which continued into the 21st century. The Tempest was undoubtedly the king of the British WW2 dog fighters and a superb, often forgotten, aircraft. Thank you for such an excellent review.

[@tillytilford2158]

Great videos mate. Love the way you present them.

[@AllthingsWW2]

Thank you!

[@ravenclaw8975]

Thank you for this great video. Your research skills and narration, despite the fact that English is not your first language, are impeccable! BTW, one of the first model planes I ever built was a Matchbox 1/72 scale Hawker Tempest II.

[@gordonbennet1094]

Fantastic vid. I've always been a bit confused re Typhoon/ Tempest. Now u cleard up all my confusion.

[@martcon6757]

What an absolutely excellent presentation, really enjoyed this and surprisingly learned some info on these aircraft i didnt know, thought id heard the full history but thus has been an educational and enjoyable experience.

[@gerarddelmonte8776]

For an evocative account of the Tempest MK Vs in action, a must-read is French Ace Pierre Clostermann's great book, The Big Show, which no less than William Faulkner said was one of the great WWII books.

[@MartinMcAvoy]

Great tip, thanks!

[@AllthingsWW2]

Loved that book!

[@gar6446]

It's a fantastic read, jam packed with interesting historical information. Pierrepont Clostermann D.S.O D.F.C.

[@robshirewood5060]

One of my favourites too, as well as the Flames in the Sky by the same author.

[@brianbrengle9933]

Yay!! I have missed you. Been going through withdrawals since your last video on the Hs-123 a couple months ago.

[@AllthingsWW2]

Ahah! Thank you! Well, I will pick up the pace now, hopefully. Next, Japan, and then a smaller country!

[@brianbrengle9933]

Looking forward to your next video.

[@tommytwotacos8106]

I love your musical selections for these videos.😊

[@MrArcheopteryx]

Very excellent production! You did great and accurate honor to the Tempest. Lovely brutish-looking aircraft. Cheers.

[@robbierobinson8819]

Very informative and great artwork. I have really enjoyed watching it in conjunction with the video of the Typhoon. Although all designed as fighter aircraft, in my mind the Typhoon, Tempest, FW190 and Thunderbolt all paved the way to the devastating effect that fighter-bombers / ground attack fighters can have. Now for something on the Sea Fury, please!

[@smigoltime]

Tempest my beloved

[@AllthingsWW2]

And from the Axis? D-9?

[@philipthomas2918]

In the mid 60's a Tempest was in the former Sky Fame museum at Staverton Airport located between Gloucester and Cheltenham. It was impressive, very high nose. Wonder where it is now?

[@duncanidaho2097]

Great video, sir. “British Grenadiers” from “Barry Lyndon” as outro? Love it.

[@brendonbewersdorf986]

Thank you for this video always love your content! Hopefully the brief mention of the FW190 D-9 means it will get a video in the future I think it's probably my favorite fw190 variant and possibly my fav WW2 aircraft although the ki-61 is a close second

[@AllthingsWW2]

Thank you! Yes, the Dora will have it's own video, for sure. It's a hard aircraft to talk about without going a bit more deeply about the issues Germany had with materials and the consequences for engine development.

[@robshirewood5060]

@@AllthingsWW2 Will you include the Kurt Tank TA types?

[@veritasvincit2745]

Great video. Thanks. The artwork is brilliant too.

[@AllthingsWW2]

Thank you!

[@excellenceinanimation960]

Love this style video! Gives into interesting info about the wing and Nguni more in depth than anyone else! Love you content new sub!

[@AllthingsWW2]

Thank you and welcome!

[@bigdmac33]

First class presentation and yes, the artwork is superb.

[@AllthingsWW2]

Thank you!

[@stefphoenix9642]

Tempest , Sea Fury, Bearcat and Mustang have been the peak of piston engine fighters, the end of an era

[@jacktattis]

Spitfires my friend

[@carlnewman7096]

Another great episode, on an interesting aircraft, great graphics too. Looking forward to the next one.😎👍🏻

[@gordonwallin2368]

Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.

[@Saxondog]

Love the William Tell, subtly playing in the background.😊

[@vincehagedorn2500]

Than you for a great video and report. My Uncle, Sq Leader Arthur Vincent "Gus" Gowers, was shot down in a Tempest during the mass attack on the German ship "Munsterhausen", I think in Cherbourg, carrying Nuclear materials for the war effort. It is thought that Churchill gave an order for it's destruction "at any cost". I have more details in the book written about his life by Sylvia Barnard (my late sister) "never a dull moment".

[@kwakagreg]

Can't find any reference to a ship of that name. You sure of the spelling?

[@kwakagreg]

Found it under your uncle's name....munsterland. He earned a DFC. U should always show that.

[@robshirewood5060]

Superb presentation and information, one of the best i have seen, i subscribed.

[@Ob1sdarkside]

That artwork is lovely, a really nice piece

[@AllthingsWW2]

Thank you!

[@LessAiredvanU]

My opinion is that the best British single piston engine fighter was the Fury II fighter that was converted into the Sea Fury fighter bomber. The Fury II did not have folding wings or provision for underwing stores (bombs, rockets, or drop tanks), and was faster and more agile even though it had a less powerful engine than the later naval version. The Hawker Fury II was the apex British single engined fighter, although it never went into squadron service.

[@wolffweber7019]

Check the MB-5

[@LessAiredvanU]

The Margin Baker was never built, but the Fury monoplane was. It was never issued, and those built were converted to the pre production Sea Fury (non folding wings, elementary landing hooks).

[@wolffweber7019]

@@LessAiredvanU MB 5 was built as a fully developed prototype. The serial production never started.

[@wolffweber7019]

@@LessAiredvanU MB 5 was built as a fully developed prototype. The serial production never started.

[@franksgattolin8904]

Thank you! Outstanding presentation.

[@AllthingsWW2]

Thank you!

[@manuwilson4695]

The Napier Sabre engine. What a MONSTER!

[@Joop.23-2-63]

Agree, but to many moving parts......

[@manuwilson4695]

@@Joop.23-2-63 TOO many!...spelling mate!🙄

[@elimtevir1]

THe Pinnical was arguably a tie between the Tempest and the Grumman F8F Bearcat for Single engine prop fighters. boith were about equal in abilities and performance envelope.

[@elimtevir1]

@@paulhicks6667 Guns: 4 × 20 mm (.79 in) AN/M3 cannon not .50cals

[@elimtevir1]

@@paulhicks6667 Guns: 6 × 0.50 in (12.7 mm) M2 Browning machine guns, with 400 rounds per gun, (All F6F-3, and most F6F-5) or 2 × 0.79 in (20 mm) AN/M2 cannon, with 225 rounds per gun and 4 × 0.50 in (12.7 mm) Browning machine guns with 400 rounds per gun or in one variant 4x20mm

[@elimtevir1]

@@paulhicks6667 Sorry correct the F8F Bearcat had 4x20mils

[@pascalchauvet4230]

french Tempest Ace Pierre Closterman recounts in his book "The Great Circus" that a Spitfire actually managed to shoot down an intruding low-flying Arado Ar-234 flying below, putting his Spitfire in a steep dive. Afterwards the Spitfire was battered, with popped rivets on the wings, but did much to boost the Spitfire side in the friendly rivalry beetween Spitfire and Tempest pilots, Spit pilots joking, that''s something you've never been able to achieve with your lead sleds (meaning the Tempests). Another good-natured joke was that the landing speed of the Tempest was higher than the cruising speed of the Spitfire :)

[@jacktattis]

The Tempest Tactical Mach 0.84 Spitfire 0.88 every day of the week

[@istvansipos9940]

16:09 we obviously did not. Similarly, we did not reach the full potential of full plate armour. We could make way waaaay better armour with mass produced, 21st century steel, but the whole concept is obsolete. Just 1 example.

[@alexg5913]

Hi my dad flew the Tempest with 486 Squadron- still have his log book! Perry amazing plane - thanks for this.

[@tranceguide9752]

The Hawker Sea Fury, essentially a lighter, fighter variant of the Tempest, was the only fighter able to take on the MIG 15 in the Korean War - until the Saber was rushed into service.

[@steppenwolf1872]

The Fury was a superbe radial engine machine.

[@sandemike]

Not correct a Corsair also shot down a Mig15.

[@imperialinquisition6006]

Not really correct. A sea Fury did indeed shoot down a Mig-15, however so did several other aircraft including the Corsair, Meteor F8 etc… These were all outclassed in the air to air role by the MiG-15, whereas the Sabre was more of an equal. So basically it’s not really the only fighter able to take on the MiG-15 pre-sabre, rather one of a few older aircraft which were able to score kills against MiG-15s.

[@sandemike]

You forget the Panther that shot down 4 Mig's in a dogfight and was hushed up because they were Russian pilots. Silly of us British to give the Rolls Royce Nene engine to the Russians but the Panther had them as well.

[@tranceguide9752]

@@sandemike Yes, I forgot the Panther. I thought the Panther used the R.R. Tay engine? After the disappointment of the Allison J33 engine?

[@999wilf999]

It would be very interesting to see what could be done with a military budget, modern technology, and a piston engine. A brief google suggests that a modern Bugatti W16 generates similar power to a Rolls Royce Merlin at only 2/3 the weight. I suspect it would get quite a bit more out of a gallon too! I suspect that the transonic drag on the propellor would prove the limiting factor, and prevent performance exceeding WWII aircraft by too great of an extent. I suppose the highly modified warbirds they used to race at Reno are as close as we'll ever get to finding out.

[@AllthingsWW2]

I agree. The propeller would certainly be a limiting factor unless someone worked out supersonic propellers, a cool aircraft related to this is the XF84H: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_XF-84H_Thunderscreech. We could certainly see some wondrous stuff, but I guess we are stuck with those warbirds, which isn't too bad anyway! Thank you for answering my question!

[@robertkalinic335]

I can solve your bs dillema by pointing at tu 95 as limit for propellers cause supersonic props dont make sense.

[@myronplichota7965]

The Tempest is remarkable with liquid-cooled and air-cooled engine versions. The Japanese Kawasaki Ki-61 and Ki-100 are the only other examples I am aware of in the WWII era.

[@Surestick88]

I believe the FW190 had air-cooled and liquid cooled engines as well.

[@myronplichota7965]

@@Surestick88 Quite right.

[@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935]

Ju 88, 188 etc.

[@owen368]

Curtiss Hawk series of fighters had both air cooled radial and liquid cooled vee 12 engines. Mohawk, kittyhawk, warhawk tomahawk and others.

[@atilllathehun1212]

Dornier 217 had radial and inline engine variants.

[@mikewoodman7700]

always wondered what happened to the other Mks - now I know! great video

[@AllthingsWW2]

Thank you!

[@nnoddy8161]

Sea Fury deserves its own video. Great stuff!

[@AllthingsWW2]

Thank you! The Sea Fury is indeed a great aircraft!

[@richardmarshall4322]

Very good video. To answer the question, yes we were nearing the end of possible development of piston fighters. The propellers drag is the main problem with regard speed. Swept wings and jet power only way forward. Me 262 100mph faster than any piston fighter. Engine development could have been taken foward though, the airframe was the limiting factor. One thing not mentioned was the problem of carbon monoxide entering the cockpit on the Typhoon from the Sabre engine. There were some fatal crashes in the early days from pilots loosing conciousness. The problem always remained so pilots went on to oxygen from take off. On all other fighters normaly 14000 ft.

[@monkeyboy8424]

Very informative and well produced video. Thanks.

[@himoffthequakeroatbox4320]

14:26 Is that photo reversed, or did it have props that rotated the wrong way?

[@butchclay8126]

Great video: Lots of good information on the long development of the plane that to me is one of the finest, most handsome fighters ever made...the Sea Fury.

[@kwakagreg]

Mk 9 spit for me. The long nose of the Griffon spoiled their looks as well as their agility...😊

[@Ord_Wingate]

The Typhoon was a superb at low level and was a brilliant ground attack plane. My late Grandad witnessed a "pack" of them attack a German tank column. Ge said the noise was as if the gates of hell had been opened up! Incredible stuff

[@bobsakamanos4469]

Even though Camm had designed the Tiffy as a high altitude interceptor.

[@jamesday1295]

My Gdad flew hurricanes in north africa and typhoons in europe. I remember asking him aged around 8, if he killed any nazis. He said if they were inside the tanks. Probably, yes.

[@Ord_Wingate]

@jamesday1295 my wife's grandad was ground crew in North africa during ww2 I wonder if they met?

[@jamesday1295]

@garethbarnes3680 I guess it's possible! :) I've encountered my dad's and other grandads shipmates on youtube b4 when commenting. One actually recognised me from profile because I look like my dad at similar age

[@grahamcarmichael9892]

@@jamesday1295 Maybe he was on 6 Sqn. Nicknamed the Flying Can openers.

[@FutureSystem738]

Thanks, and thanks also for narrating this with a real HUMAN voice. I HATE the trend of narrating videos with a fake, A.I. voice. I’ve just finished reading Pierre Clostermann’s book on this- “The Big Show”, a really must read!

[@c.morees9698]

However many fighter aircraft were scrapt after world war 2, most airforces still heavily depended on such aircraft because of the unreliablity of jet engine powered fighters. The Tempest 5 and 6 were undoubtedly the most beautifull fighter planes ever built.....

[@thethirdman225]

I beg to differ.

[@Hattonbank]

@@thethirdman225 In your opinion then, what is the most beautiful fighter aircraft(s) ever built.

[@thethirdman225]

@@Hattonbank Well, TBH, I don’t have much of an opinion on that. But in my opinion, it wouldn’t be the Tempest, though I think it’s one of the better looking ones… I think it depends on the era but in WWII, probably the later model Mustang. I’m not much for Spitfires but the XIXe looked good to me. It didn’t make it in time for the war but the Hornet would be up there. My point is really that it’s a matter of opinion.

[@jacktattis]

@@thethirdman225 Yes the Spitfire was the best That is what you were going to say was it not.?

[@jacktattis]

@@thethirdman225 All mustangs looked like pregnant goldfish in profile

[@davesherry5384]

A great video of an awesome aircraft. I'd be interested to know what happened to the Typhoons? Did they soldier on or were they withdrawn?

[@AllthingsWW2]

Thank you! I believe they were retired quickly after WW2.

[@michaelwong4303]

how did it compare to the P47 Thunderbolt as a ground attack aircraft? and to a lesser extend, a fighter?

[@robertbruce1887]

Great documentary, quite thorough & informative. Great to have a picture of great pilot & author ( The Big Show) Pierre Closterman. Read his book in high school , great reading. Interesting to note that the Tempest was the best V-1 destroyer.

[@hifigeek009]

I read a Polish pilots book about this monster. Massive amount of torque. Difficult during take off and difficult to land. He saw one flip over onto the cock-pit and the pilot was just a chunk of charcoal with blood sizzling out around the parachute buckles. He also talked about the effect of burn-out from the oxygen from the face mask.

[@adamwash917]

learn something new every day, great video

[@AllthingsWW2]

Thank you!

[@baselhammond3317]

A mix of the Sea Fury and Tempest V was the Fury Mk 1 prototype, LA610. This had a 3000HP Sabre. I recall it had speeds of 422mph at sea level and 485 at altitude. A true ‘superprop’. I still think the Sea Fury looked better with the radial installation, though.

[@AllthingsWW2]

I agree that the radial engine looked better. British aircraft with radial engines give me the same weird sensation as Japanese aircraft with inline ones. I can't really put it into words.

[@jamesrussell7760]

So, which was the better aircraft, the Tempest or the Fw-190 D-9?

[@Hirsutechin]

Very evenly matched, according to the pilots who fought them both.

[@adriang6259]

Great video. I wonder what would be the shape of aircraft, at least military aircraft without the two world wars and the Cold War? Would we even be into jet aircraft today without the drive from the three arms races? I’d guess, by now we would but the efficiency might be as close as it is today.

[@triceratops2929]

Could you make a video about the Italian C.202 maybe?

[@AllthingsWW2]

Yes. The C.202 is on a shortlist to be made.

[@jonathanohagan1349]

Oh hello. Just saw this, you picked up a new sub. Nice work.

[@claudemontezin911]

French resistance pilot Pierre Closterman loved it. It's like a powerful Staffordshire dog of the sky. Thank you so much!

[@bionicgeekgrrl]

Great video. There was of course the 3rd typhoon type if you can call it that. This was the tornado, powered by the rr vulture engine iirc which was effectively two peregrines with shared crank, this of course was used in the avro Manchester with disastrous results. Rolls Royce didn't deem the vulture or peregrine worthwhile to develop further and focused on the merlin.

[@thethirdman225]

Laminar flow relates more to surface roughness than anything else. In WWII, the standards of production were such that laminar flow, while being a design objective, wasn't really possible.