Almost Perfect... Wolbrook Skindiver Review

[@phmwu7368]

As a test pilot, Neil Armstrong wore a Bulova 3818 and during X-15 research an Accutron GMT. During Gemini 8, a Speedmaster 105.003 and during Apollo 11 a Speedmaster 105.012-65 In 2018-19 there were 2 " The Armstrong Family Collection " Heritage auctions, one offering a Wolbrook... However, still searching a time-period photo of Neil Armstrong wearing a Wolbrook !

[@CasualWatchReviews]

I Don't think there is an image of him wearing the wolbrook, even the auction of his Wolbrook did not include one.

[@phmwu7368]

@@CasualWatchReviews Exactly, that's our point ! #MoonwatchUniverse

[@johnnyjohnny7204]

i just got one of these with a diver bezel, they've likely listened to your, and everyone's, gripe about the 8215 movement, and have replaced it with an 8315 upgrade which offers winding, hacking and longer hour reserve. nice review, i look forward to getting mine pretty soon.

[@donfoley1590]

Just received my Douglas Manual Wind. 2 seconds slow in 24 hrs. Lume shines all night. I really recommend this watch. Brilliant customer care also.

[@bebopscooter]

Nice review Sam. I especially like your easy to understand English, well articulated and not too fast. Could you enlighten me about the Seiko VH31 Mecaquartz that is in the other Skindiver? Thanks.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Hi Hans, yes, I can give an opinion on it for sure. The VH31 is a 3 hand movement where the second hand looks similar to a mechanical watch with a sweep more than a tick. I actually think this is one of the rare 'acceptable' uses for Meca quartz. I think the overuse of the VK64 in modern watches needs to end. The VK64 is a bi-compax chronograph movement. The main issue for me is it has no running seconds, the watch looks dead the majority of the time. The tradeoff to have a sweeping chronograph seconds is far from worth it. Also the VK64 has a completely useless 24 hour dial. I wear a seiko speedtimer now that has a mecha quartz movement but with running seconds, it still has the 24 hour dial which I still think is completely useless. The Wolbrook with the mecha quartz is slightly thinner, for me this cause the crown to dig into my wrist. I ended up wearing it on a nato but ultimately sold it as I love watches with the data complication.

[@bebopscooter]

@@CasualWatchReviews Thank you Sam. Completely clear to me. This helps in making a decision. Cheers Ace.

[@whodeycinbengals]

Neil’s omega didn’t fail, the clock inside the lunar vehicle did, so that’s why Neil’s Speedy was left in the vehicle during the first moonwalk .

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Yes thats right, I covered it in this upload. Thanks for watching Ben. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6aQaYx8fcSEf7s

[@mikemorgan-swinhoe7932]

It was David Scott’s omega that failed in 1971 moon walk and he wore his bulova

[@ryanstafford8544]

Love your reviews. Very complete and well put together.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Hey Ryan, thanks, glad you like them!

[@MrFx5150]

Got mine today , I love it,, I’m not sure why but my rotor seams very quite and l have a screw down crown

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Hi Barry, yes they changed the movements from this version I had. Mine was the Kickstarter one and I think they realized such a cool watch needed a better movement.

[@drwindsurf]

I really like the look of this watch and its connection to Neil Armstrong. 😊I don't mind Miyota 8xxx movements but I understand your disappointment. I don't know if the NH35 will fit for stem height but I look forward to seeing you and Kris try. Thank you for a fantastic review Sam 😊👍

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Hey Jeffrey, we are going to try and put in a 9015 clone. Yep the seiko would be to thick, your right

[@drwindsurf]

@@CasualWatchReviews A friend of mine lubricated the bearing on the autowinder of the 8xxx and it reduced the rotor noise significantly...you could maybe try that first?

[@gregpidgeon1167]

Do you want to buy mine??😂

[@ivermec-tin666]

@@CasualWatchReviews The Miyota 9015 is not particularly expensive. Get the real deal.

[@redletters2104]

great review. I was trying to decide which model I want and the aspect about the rotor sealed it for me. Thank you!

[@cj1000]

Sam, simply put: you rock! Looking forward to the 9015 upgrade.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Thanks Chris... watch straps in the post 😂 Yep going to be fun swapping the movement out

[@tods.9947]

A really well-produced review Sam! A great looking watch that looks like it’s got some Oris similarities. I’m looking forward to the movement substitution with Kris.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Hey Tod, thanks for the feedback... been trying to put more work into each one as opposed to panicking about making one every week!

[@bentonvandorsselaer289]

I have the Douglas version of this. I love it as well. I totally agree about how noisy the rotor is. At first I thought something was wrong with it! Having said that, I wear this everyday while my other watches is in the drawer. It is so comfortable, looks very good. For the money it is an epic watch.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Yep I agree! We swapped the movement in mine so its running great and has hacking and handwinding

[@dannyfree1120]

What is the difference between Douglas and wolbrook versions?

[@shawnt5779]

That’s definitely a good looking watch but damn that’s a loud rotor! Good review, Sam!

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Hye Shawn... Yep I'm so confused why companies still use this movement!

[@the1010watchclub]

Great review and a really great looking watch. It's hard to find a diver with unique features that isn't jumping the shark. Looks like they're advertising the Miyota 8315 with hacking now on their website, that's a quick course correction!

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Yep also very annoying for us kickstarter backers!

[@ScottNotAvailable]

The 8315 is equally as loud. The course correction actually happened just now - with the Skindiver 2 using the Miyota 9015. They also tried to alleviate this issue by offering a handwind only version some time ago, where all they did was took out the rotors.

[@john7101]

Thanks for information. Appreciated the workings of the bezel for time zones and the loud movement. I just messaged company. They have no desire or plan to change movement. Thanks again

[@markbyrum4743]

So, did you upgrade the movement? Good vid. Keep at it!

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Hey Mark, yes I did we put a clone eta movement in it, so it ended up having a clone eta 2824 in it. I actually gave it to my friend who is also called Mark!

[@michaelbradley6488]

Nice review, perhaps I had seen this one in the past, I may have to pick one up. I too am from that time period. As far as I know all of the 8315 movements hack and I don't think the rotor is that loud, you have the case back off and that definitely lets you hear it.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Hey, yep this was not the 8315 movement in this was the 8215. They upgraded after the Kickstarter version. This was a Kickstarter. It didn’t hack and the rotor was noisy even with the case back on. All of this was mentioned in the review if you watch it back.

[@michaelbradley6488]

@@CasualWatchReviews My bad for not seeing the entire thing, love the watch and thanks for the review.

[@MVO884]

Both are beautiful watches. Thanks for showing.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Thanks for watching!

[@juniorjohnson5961]

I think it's a great looking watch 👌 I have the same movment in another watch and don't notice the noise nearly as much as you described but I won't buy the watch until they upgrade to a better movment .

[@CasualWatchReviews]

I think they now have upgraded it so you should be ok! Still have it in the collection!

[@juniorjohnson5961]

@@CasualWatchReviews Thanks I've looked at the website I'm considering buying one if I do I'll let you know 👊

[@Bob.martens]

The unidirectional rotor is actually the main reason why they can make the movement thinner... I don't own a Miyota of any kind, but they reputedly have better acuuracy than the comparable Seiko/SII. Fitting another movement wil prove to be very tricky, because these cases in general are designed around specific movements. I suspect some prcise advanced tooling will be required for such an undertaking. Please keep us posted on the enterprise.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Hey Bob, I think I could have lived with the rotor sounding like a bag of wrenches being thrown down a staircase if the movement had hacking. Yes your right we will be replacing the movement with either an ETA clone or an 9015 clone. will do a full upload. A seiko NH35a would be too thick

[@armancz]

I think they did a great job recreating the original without ruining the watch, at first I was bitchin about the 40mm vs 36 or what was the original but 40mm is still ok, now 42mm as Glashutte SeaQ would be a bit much for a relatively thin skindiver. Great review!

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Yep the movement is now swapped out and its performing well!

[@mikev3245]

Nice watch and review Sam! The Miyota 8200 series movement can be loud depending on the case it is put in but the four I have owned have all run consistently within COSC which makes the noise forgivable for me. The Miyota 9015 movement is a much better movement running at 28,800 vph and is basically silent. I think the hands on the Wolbrook would fit on this movement and make it the watch it should have been to start with.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Hey Mike, I think we are going to try a clone 9015. Apparently some eta may work also? Not ready to splash out $300 to test that theory

[@stevebrayshaw7228]

I totally agree on the movement, but love the watch so much that I am forgiving it. I have the steel bezel, plexi, x15 pro. Look forward to seeing you put a 9015 in as it’s a upgrade I would also do if it all fits.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Hye Steve, Looks like even they are considering a movement upgrade from one of the earlier comments. Agreed, great case dial and hands. very well executed.

[@tiemenstaal]

I loathe the date cyclops, so the quartz was an easy pick for me. (Thank god for Gnomon watches, who will do a cyclops delete as an add-on.)

[@CasualWatchReviews]

I had the quartz version but found it dug into my wrist? The crown. How has yours been!

[@tiemenstaal]

@@CasualWatchReviews it's still in the mail, but I'll let you know in a few. I haven't had that issue with a 40mm watch, even with a bigger crown, so we'll see.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Yep it’s specific to that quartz one, I had both the quartz and mechanical Wolbrook. Maybe because the quartz was thinner. I ended up selling it in the end.

[@danbrown7857]

Very nice review! I am leaning towards picking up this very piece, despite the 8215 movement. I’ve had a couple of watches in the past that used this movement and I almost felt the noisy rotor sort of grew on me...😂 This particular watch’s groovy 60s look is something I think would really overshadow the movement!

[@CasualWatchReviews]

They have upgraded the movement now thankfully. We actually ended up pitting a clone ETA in mine if you watch my recent collection review

[@MrLocsei]

Overall reminds me of the Oris Divers’ 65, hands remind me of Vostok Amphibia Scuba Dude. Great look.

[@peterspaepen2861]

Very cool watch ... indeed Miyota movements are noisy even the 9015 makes a lot of noise in my Spinnaker Boetger 😔😒

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Yep, I think I could even live with it if it had hacking! that was a big let down. I'm working on getting a 9015 clone to go in it

[@peterspaepen2861]

The Casual Watch Reviewer I am just checking out their website, they are using a meca Quartz Seiko with sweeping second hand .... hasetating but I think I go for that one (like the red bezel)

[@peterspaepen2861]

The Casual Watch Reviewer Ps are you going to make a video of getting the 9015 in? Would like to see that. Great review....

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Yep, the date is not the most legible so you may not miss it. The case and everything is top-notch! yep, I will film the movement replacement, its a clone 9015 from memory its a DG2813

[@ThatCologneGuy]

I had never heard of this brand until today...I'll check them out...is that a Northern English accent I pick up?

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Yep, your spot on!

[@ThatCologneGuy]

@@CasualWatchReviews Love it! I lived in Manchester for a summer and thought it might be close. Congrats on the channel.

[@guylezius9775]

Love your review, really I do, as a reviewer your honest appraisal of watches gives us, the viewer an opportunity to make a decision on pulling the trigger on such watches, I’ve watch this review 3 times and initially your review turned me of purchasing this watch. Your watch as you state runs the Miyota 8215, extremely noisy and no second hand hacking, I went to the Wolbrook site and the all blue version which is the model I want/wanted, well you can purchase it with the Miyota 8315 with a 60hr power reserve and a seconds hand hacking, maybe this was not an option when you backed and ordered yours, my question to you is what’s your knowledge of the 8315, is it as noisy as the 8215, could you possibly do a follow up vid pointing out the difference between the two movements. Cheers and regards sir. 👌👌

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Thanks Guy for the feedback! This is my first experience really of Miyota... not that impressed honestly. They have upgraded the movement now which is a shame for all the kickstarter backers. Mine has now been upgraded to a clone 9015 movement so I will be sure to do an updated upload.

[@guylezius9775]

The Casual Watch Reviewer Thank you 👌👌

[@pigsydney]

I love my Wolbrook watch,the story was the main draw for me too.I wanted the automatic but could only afford the Mecaquartz.I love the packaging and watch case.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Yep I wish I had stuck with the mecaquartz! We changed the movement in this one snd its working great now!

[@surfitli]

That’s really unfortunate. It’s a very nice watch. However, the movement is too low end for the rest of the watch. The lack of hacking at this price would be a deal breaker for me. I also believe that this movement has an in-directly driven second hand, which leads to it having an almost uneven movement. They really should of gone for something more up-scale, like the SW-200. I would imagine the orginal had a Swiss movement.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Yep I have some SW-200 powered microbrands coming in at very reasonable costs! That would have been a great addition to this!

[@donfoley1590]

Hi, what manual wind movement would fit this watch would you Know. I have one, it was supposed to be a Manual Wind, it is with the rotor taken from it.!!!!

[@CasualWatchReviews]

I added a clone ETA movement into mine eventually. I would look for a Miyota manual wind or just take the rotor off all together? A Miyota 9000 series movement doesn’t have the same noise issues as this 8000 series does.

[@donfoley1590]

@@CasualWatchReviews Thank you so much for getting back to me. That's great to know 👍👍👍👍.

[@meeswerners5154]

They've just announced an updated version with a Miyota 8315 movement (Which has a hacking function). Not sure about the rotor noise of that one though..

[@CasualWatchReviews]

I did not see that (can't see it on the specs on their website) That would be really cool. not sure on the rotor sound but I could have lived with that if it had hacking maybe. Thanks for letting me know.

[@meeswerners5154]

The Casual Watch Reviewer yeah sorry, didn’t specify the model. Only the skindiver professional gets this upgrade. (For now)

[@sbsb4995]

Don't worry my friend. Miyota is much much, much better than Seiko's. Very sturdy and robust. Bullet proof.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Its been taken out of this watch already!

[@sbsb4995]

@@CasualWatchReviews ah I see. What movement you put in then?

[@CasualWatchReviews]

A clone ETA movement, DSG something or other.

[@truebluemiata]

Was that a Corum that I saw at 10:06? I agree, don't like that rotor. Given it's history I'm willing to accept rotor noise in my Valjoux 7750, but they had better choices.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Hey Tom... I had to look that Corum watch up! it was a stock image I found of a creepy clown, I was trying to look for some footage of a rollerskating clown... there is a gap in the market there, not a lot of footage available 😂. Yep and I could have lived with the rotor a bit more if I had not been so upset about the lack of hacking!

[@TheBadGuy1974]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 That clown comment still laughing.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Well as long as is distracted you from the microphone 😂

[@troynasello2085]

Go for the movement change! The eta2824 should fit with minimal alterations. It is a great looking watch! But that miyota is so outdated. Wonder why they didn't go for the miyota 821a. It has the same qualities but hacks and the rotor is skeletonized so it's quieter.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

I got a quick lesson in Miyota from this watch. Honestly most watches I review that are microbrands are either selitta or TMIs. I will make a video of upgrading the watch, thanks for watching Troy

[@donaldbarden6294]

Great looking watch. The company should have spent the extra few dollars to include a screw-down crown however.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Agreed

[@MichaelAguila]

Don't try to kill my love for clowns! 😂😂😂

[@CasualWatchReviews]

In my defence I was casting suspicions on Clowns on roller skates 😂😂😂😂

[@MichaelAguila]

@@CasualWatchReviews oh yeah, screw those clowns. 😂

[@DC-uf6ve]

That's a nice looking watch. It doesn't quite seem to know what it is though, not really a diver with 100m water resistance and no screw down crown, not really a GMT either. Shame about that movement as it looks pretty well made all in all and there's a lot to be said for it being thin, you wouldn't get that with the ubiquitous NH35. That cyclops though, how did they not spot that during their QC?!! Great story, really enjoying the channel. You'll have tons more subs in no time I'm sure.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Hey DC thanks! Yes tell your friends 🤞🏻. The cyclops is weird as its not the crystal rotated if that makes sense, its been put on wrong! Im going to see if I can get it off all together.

[@gregpidgeon1167]

Totally agree. Mines on eBay soon.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Same feelings about the hacking and noise?

[@gregpidgeon1167]

@@CasualWatchReviews Yes. If only they put a better movement they still would have made their target with extra cost. The noise is unbelievable.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Totally agree, I love my mechanical watches but I would have taken a quartz with the date any day over this Miyota. I actually had a significantly longer rant about it but figured I was coming across as an a**hole so edited most of it out!

[@ianhorjus9507]

I made this comment on their Instagram and they basically just said they think the movement is great 😂 clearly they don’t do well with constructive criticism. They are asking a lot of money for a watch with a sub par movement. Oh well, at least if I do buy one for the styling I can pick one up for a decent price used.

[@CanadianBeachcomber]

It’s a handsome watch but I am still waiting for a world timer that includes at least one Canadian city.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

A sort of Commonwealth timer? I'm all in for that!

[@CanadianBeachcomber]

@The Casual Watch Reviewer - It is good to hear that I am not delusional. Cheers

[@timothythomas1626]

Get a miyota 9015 highbeat

[@donfoley1590]

Great Review

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Cheers Don!

[@stevebrayshaw7228]

9015 hr hand diameter is 1.52, the 8215 is 1.50 anyone know if that would be an issue or will it fit with a push ? minute and sec hand diameters are the same.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

We are going to try and put a DG2813 a close 9015 (maybe also clone for ETA 2825). I will film the the process and any issues we fund.

[@Rikki-Tikki-Tavi]

Shame it's not a screw down crown. And yeah, I agree the movement is a letdown.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Yep agreed!

[@willizabeth]

This is grossly incorrect. Neil Armstrong's Omega DID NOT fail during the moon landing. The Lunar Excursion Module's (LEM) clock failed upon Landin on the lunar surface. Armstrong left his Speedy in the module to work as LEM's timekeeping device. Armstrong put on Aldrin's watch for his moonwalk. Thus, it was Aldrin's watch, not Armstrong's, that was the first watch worn on the moon. Aldrin's watch was later lost or stolen when it was being shipped back to NASA after the mission. It has never been found.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Yep I got that wrong… I’m not sure it was ‘grossly’ wrong, I was not trying to deceive any one. I corrected it in a later upload 10 Surprising Facts: Omega Speedmaster - Watch This Before You Buy! kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6aQaYx8fcSEf7s

[@timothythomas1626]

This is a good piece.

[@strannostrannovasrr]

I find it a very interesting and nice watch

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Thanks for watching!

[@damingdaan4147]

the real first WATCH landing on the moon,not a OMEGA SPEEDMASTER

[@CasualWatchReviews]

That would make for a good story but it’s just not true, or there is no evidence to prove it

[@marccarroll2803]

Anyone know the model of the Citizen at 09:00 ? Ta

[@CasualWatchReviews]

You can ask around but my guess is its the Citizen PMD56-2952 Titanium Eco Drive 😂😂😂

[@Leec_1972]

I would definitely stay away from the Seiko movement for this watch and rather go for the 9015 0r it no-date equivalent at 3.9 mm height. A watch like this you'd really want to keep as thin as possible.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Hi Liam, we ended up putting a clone 9015 in there and it works great now! We covered it on a few episodes of the Podcast

[@Leec_1972]

@@CasualWatchReviews Oh great so it fits. Fantastic!

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Yep it was not a 'drop in' Kris who I do the podcats with actually had to do a bit of drilling for some reason

[@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv]

I can't ever see Buzz Aldrin's speedmaster coming up for auction. Technically it would count as stolen and there'd be a million questions to answer. It would be like someone stealing the Mona Lisa and then putting it up for auction.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Interesting point. I wonder what the statute of limitations is if you could ever prove who stole it.

[@raymondrichardson6061]

Looks a lot like a Vostok, and Wow, that cyclops is significantly out of kilter. I dont mind a Miyota, and quite like the feel of the rotor. I really enjoyed the Podcast with Scottish Watches. That would make a good regular feature. I cant help thinking Chris was struggling to understand the Glasgow accent.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Hey Ray... I didn't not get vostok vibes from the watch so thats interesting you did. Vostok have so many variants however. We would love to do more stuff with Scottish watches for sure.... and to be honest in Kris's defence we had a poor connection so Rick was a lot quieter when we spoke to him live. The audio you heard in the podcast was Ricks audio from a proper Mic, not the zoom iphone headphones he was actually using to speak to us. As a rule we try to record our audio separately, then I mix over the top of the zoom audio. When I was mixing it, there was actually a lot we couldn't hear, some really funny commentary Rick had on things we were saying that we just didn't hear live. So I'm sure in parts it sounded like we were interrupting him or cutting him off! Took hours to edit so we got more of his funny bits in.

[@raymondrichardson6061]

@@CasualWatchReviews it was good enteryainment. Thats the main thing :)

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Raymond Richardson it was a lot of fun for sure! Appreciate the feedback! Keep it coming!

[@malzahar33]

Fuck, I wanted to buy but the noisy miyota is a no no for me. I got another watch with a noisy miyota, now I avoid all miyota watches. I heard the lajoux perret g100 is based on a miyota design so it is noisy also, so I also avoid watch with this movement eventhough it makes me miss great looking watches

[@TinBin-Craig]

very nice watch shame about that movement cheers

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Hey Craig, yep we are going to have a tinker with it and see what we can do!

[@TinBin-Craig]

nice one... cheers

[@bernardobernardo7810]

It's got that Exciting Breitling Look, but without that Stupid Dreamed Up Price Tag.

[@japd7897]

The distribution of cities in the bezel is wrong. No way I can buy that.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Someone asked this question on the kickstrater and they did have an answer for why it was like that that made sense at the time! I can't remember what it was unfortunately.

[@japd7897]

@@CasualWatchReviews Then they should explain on their website.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

JAPD yep agreed.

[@justdougster]

A clown on roller skates . I laughed so hard

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Hey Doug! I struggled to find actual footage of a clown on roller skates... so maybe I need a separate channel that caters for clown related stock footage 😂 thanks for watching

[@puscifer99]

I would pay $USD1k if they added Swiss movement...

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Yep I agree actually. We put a clone 9015 movement in the watch and it works great!

[@puscifer99]

@@CasualWatchReviews I think the price point is way too high for movement used. Otherwise I'd buy one.

[@vl7920]

Tel aviv on the bezel NO WAY

[@CasualWatchReviews]

I just made an upload I will be listing this week about how world time bezels can be controversial sometimes

[@CACOPHONIE]

Wish i had this cool watch 😭.

[@hellboy1976]

No 200m??? That's incredibly disappointing and will steer me away from this (and that teeth-grinding rotor).

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Thanks for commenting Clark and watching

[@mywatchventure8875]

Really like the design . But need a quiet life . No looking over my shoulder for Stephen Kingish clowns thanks . Enough noise with my kids .

[@CasualWatchReviews]

If your trying to avoid the clown... then why is it right behind you 😂Thanks for watching Spencer!

[@Beck-Stein]

That magnifier is not aligned well. Horrible look.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

Yep it wasn’t spot on, its not crazy noticible in person and it was a kickstrater one so it doesn’t bother me too much! Thanks for watching.

[@Beck-Stein]

@@CasualWatchReviews overall build good? I was thinking of the mecaquartz version.

[@CasualWatchReviews]

I think the build quality is great, it has a very vintage look to it but the case is solid. I also owned the mecaquartz one but quickly sold it. For me the case was slightly slimmer, sounds weird but for the it resulted in the crown sticking into my wrist. A problem I never has with the auto.

[@TopSecretVid]

Lol..built in France..yeah I'll pass🤣🤣

[@CasualWatchReviews]

There are a few good French brands out how. Baltic would be another.

[@ScottNotAvailable]

And Yema

[@thegorn]

You bought a lemon. Unlucky.