Aloun Ndombet-Assamba - Britain Does Owe Reparations

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The motion: This house believes Britain owes reparations to her former colonies.
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[@ashfaqahmed1850]

In my opinion worst thing British did to India was dividing it (in Pakistan and India) while they were at very EXIT door!

[@revol148]

the founders of Pakistan wanted partition as they knew that to remain within a Hindu majority country would spell disaster for them.

[@VSM101]

revol148 not really it was just pure greed by the leaders of the Muslim community after they were given ecsorbitant amouts of money to vote towards partition.

[@skywalker1296]

And they did the same divide and rule against israel and palestine as well, when they were living peacefully

[@Amp1771]

True they spread fear to a bunch of naive and fearful people and promised power to a coward that wanted to separate the country.

[@harch620]

Ashfaq Ahmed true

[@qazizaahirah4168]

The most important point in her speech is that new generation of Britain has no idea what so ever of what there forefathers did. This ignorance is lethal.

[@T.image79]

Alexander Ortiz son, you are blinded to the fact that history has now discovered that even most of the ancient Egyptian megastructures were not built by or on slavery. what this indicates is that there was never ever a soceity in history which owed so much of its rise and glory to the enslavement, murder and theft from other nations than Europe. The Europe we see today in its current form is direct result of murder, theft, genocide, enslavement and colonialism. The current world economy, in which billions of dollars per month are flowing from Africa to the west thru exploitation and unfair trade, is direct baby of slavery. all this while people with your mindset whine about the paltry sums given back to africa in "aid" form. those like you, sir are also blind to the fact that since indepence, Africans have revolted against and tried to overthrow every bad ruler, but these bad and corrupt rulers have always found fresh supplies of money /guns and endorsements to shoot their own citizens from Europeans. to know slavery is to understand that for 300 solid years Africa is the only geographical location that reported zero population growth despite holding a lot of the most fertile land on the planet. Africa is just over three times bigger than china yet has a slightly smaller population, and the world (and you) think that's normal. Uganda, is roughly the same size as the U.k yet has had less than half the population of U.k until around 15 years but it's still only just over half the U.k population. The truth is it's only since the late 1990's and early 2000's that density has started to catch up with the rest of the world. This from a continent who's "slaves"showed Americans how to quarantine against the likes of smallpox, and who routinely practiced good hygiene while their slavemasters were waiting for the discovery of bacteria before practicing the same.

[@revol148]

.....any worse than what the Turkish did to the Armenians? Either way what good does guilt do and more importantly it's not as if guilt is going to compensate for past misfortunes or even turn Jamaica into anything other than a corrupt, third-world cesspit.

[@lexdiamondz1991]

What makes you think that we weren't alive to suffer under European imperialism? Most of Africa, the Caribbean and South Asia achieved independence in the 1960s-1980s, and Apartheid didn't end until 1994. PLENTY of people were alive for this and they should be repaid for their suffering.

[@SI-cd7xs]

Our forefathers are responsible for the single greatest upward surge of mankind in human history. "In a new poll 60% of Jamaicans think Jamaica 'better off as a British colony.'" L-O-L

[@MariaRuiz-sf8ig]

Alexander Ortiz please Alex.. Would you be so kind as to shut your mouth as a white Hispanic bla bla..we were even worst than the Britts, and the worst thing is that all was done in the name of Christianity!!.. Let's look ahead as you said but learn your history first so that we don't repeat it.

[@itloads]

Why does no one ever ask Nigeria to apologise on behalf of its many tribes that actively took part in the immensely profitable slave trade? Jamaica with a poor but wealthier population then Nigeria's requesting reparation for their profits 200 years ago. Wouldn't that be an interesting situation?

[@arvindn]

itloads I think you just answered your first question with the second. And to answer your second question, yes it would be an interesting situation.

[@obinnaomego1971]

lies read history properly

[@obinnaomego1971]

what foolishness. The Igbo and Yoruba people rebelled against the salve trade and fought

[@g-rexsaurus794]

@@obinnaomego1971 Lagos was literally taken by the Brits to stop the slave trade.

[@jimjones8736]

@Carbon 6 Ghana and Nigeria paying reparations to the Carribean. Lol. You do see the game being played here don't you?

[@ramakrishnaraorebbapragada5987]

An excellent speech from a passionate speaker. All these issues are secondary to human failings. Humans are warm blooded cold hearted brutes, who value superficial values.

[@karinamadeus6418]

Why is she being interrupted all the time? Let her talk.

[@zoneimobb484]

Truth hurts

[@zoneimobb484]

You know why😒✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿

[@ray26456]

Well yeah cuz british is quite arrogant to not accept even reality

[@topgurl9313]

It's a superiority complex, like what has been mentioned in a previous video. They don't think there's any value in listening to her/they assume they know better. That's a big part of this problem.

[@anderadunkley7179]

I was saying the same thing speak your trurh quitely, clearly and listen to others

[@thewhatorwhy]

I don't understand why no one is mentioning that there is an urgent need to discuss what Britain is doing - TODAY! In Libya, North Africa, Syria, the middle east, Central Asia. And God knows in how many other countries not covered above. The myth is that imperialism or some form of WAR MONGERING is a thing of the past. Don't just speak of reparations - talk about the continuation of that, because it's not just British forefathers who are guilty.

[@migueldecarvalho8012]

+StartabandRoxy Interesting point. Britons see themselves as a moral nation - I think Cameron used that expression. Personally, the idea that these guys are more moral than anyone else disgusts me. What Britain is doing today is based on acting on moral principle. Their hypocrisy can't even be matched by their ignorance. It's revolting.

[@VincentGanshert]

+StartabandRoxy You're 1000% right. The US as well.

[@Doodlebugdude]

+StartabandRoxy Did you not see the other videos in this series of debates where these issues where mentioned?

[@thewhatorwhy]

Doodlebugdude I recall one audience member that explicitly mentioned Libya. But no speaker that stood up and spoke of British imperialism in the present tense in Libya and Syria.

[@TechnocraticBushman]

+StartabandRoxy In deed, These people don't need reparations, that would be a slap on the wrist. What they need is to be left the fuck alone for starters. For Brits to hand over their lucrative businesses in the region to their rightful owners. Then and only then, we can talk about compensation for the damage done. Who shaped Iraq so that you have Shias, Sunnis, Kurds etc all lumped together? And now, instead of repatations, Iraq gets bombed by the very same country... cause somehow they're wiser and they know best. PS: In people's defense, Brits should not feel ashamed by any of this. After all, they get shafted by that very same elite as well. Instead they should see who their true allies are and most importantly, who their enemies are. As an example, some Nazi generals were hung for far less then what Tony Blair did.

[@centurionguards3819]

To those people interrupting her, I'd say have you no decency, have you no shame.

[@BoredOfBills]

You couldn't be more wrong - she has only polemic and a few shaky facts. She wants to make he audience believe that Britain invented slavery! Ever thought about who did the heavy lifting on the pyramids? Do you think it was volunteers? It was black African slaves captured and traded as slaves in a centuries old industry of slavery which has ALWAYS existed.. The Romans had slaves The Greeks had slaves. Her speech is sort of pointless because it ignores the real history. Jamaica STILL exports sugar by the way...

[@centurionguards3819]

@@BoredOfBills Here's a fact for you, the UK government paid the slave owners for their loss of "property", Not the slaves, the slave owners. Some 20% of our GDP.

[@palakpatel3295]

@@BoredOfBills like mentioned by one of the point of informations, yes the system of slavery has been ongoing for centuries, BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE IT RUGHT. The fact that we were and are going through so much advancement as humankind, slavery should not have taken place so recently within the last 2 centuries. Regardless, I do not understand how you could possibly justify what the British did by bringing up more examples of the same misdeeds of the past.

[@rebeccaanderson5626]

@@BoredOfBills fun fact the pyramids were built by paid laborers And not slaves so that in itself is factually incorrect . Also death to the British empire

[@BoredOfBills]

@@rebeccaanderson5626 Seems extremely unlikely in a society so utterly reliant on slaves and bonded labour in every other area - why pay labourers when slaves were so readily available? I'm sure a few skilled craftsmen (Masons and architects) were paid - and probably paid well - but the basic toil would have been done by slaves and bonded labour. As for "Death to the British Empire" I'm afraid you're about a hundred years too late.

[@timothyfoster4447]

Evil has no remorse

[@akaranjoh]

see how they try to interrupt the speaker and try to twist the facts because they can't stand their guilt.

[@T.image79]

revol148 Wow....I suppose that's not at all racist is it? No wonder you struggle to focus on facts I leave scattered throughout all my comments.

[@revol148]

well if it buys you time for not answering my questioning of Africa then sure......

[@T.image79]

revol148 revol148 I answered your question. reread my comments. I have finally understood that talking to you is long. you may have the last word. it seems like that will do wonders for your ego. sayonara!

[@revol148]

No - I'm still not buying this African self pity and relentless blame on the white man for EVERYTHING in order to paper over the African inability to survive in this world.Take ONE country in south Asia - Vietnam.They fought the French (1954), they fought the Americans (1965-1975), they fought the Chinese when they invaded (1979) and they lost 2.6 million dead in the process, they suffered economic post war chaos and all the hassle of reuniting the two parts of the country under huge economic embargos and a war with Cambodia YET this country is powering ahead economically and in fact taking trade off China.

[@lameguyaf]

@@revol148 Vietnam is a South East Asian nation not South. South Asian countries are India,Pakistan,Sri Lanka,Bhutan,Nepal,Bangladesh and Afghanistan

[@tanyamcclure3700]

69 years, of on the throne by sacrifices is over! Thank you for your video ❤️

[@manavsingh7378]

If you read the description...the house agreed that they DO owe reparations. No point in arguing in the comments.

[@TabooTalz]

The description only states the motion for the debate. When they say "this house believes that Britain owes reparations", they are stating the stance of the proposition, not the overall result of the debate.

[@kenwkls6392]

That's a lie. All them white people in that room are racists. They're the new generation of White supremacy

[@bandanasaikia6048]

@@kenwkls6392 sadly true ,,

[@Andrei-hq9jd]

@@kenwkls6392 That's hilarious.

[@kenwkls6392]

@@Andrei-hq9jd I bet it is...

[@debroyprasenjit]

Very valid points put forth by the speaker.

[@JosiahWarren]

She should be commutingnin mumbai instead speaking in london

[@JeffSmith-pl2pj]

She is very articulate and makes a good argument. I don't think anyone has to be convinced that slavery was horrible but nobody alive today was a slave. Reparations would do nothing. The wealth of America may have come, in part, from slave labor but all Americans benefit from American wealth. Some Americans are wealthy, white and black, Some are poor, white and black. I know it's Britain but the arguments are the same. Apologies are meaningless. Dead people apologizing to other dead people. We don't even know if they would apologize.

[@LevisH21]

slave labor is useless if there is no demand for that said product. you need something that has the ideas to make a product and manage the production process in order to sell it and make a profit. and that producer also needs costumers. labour(even cotton plantation slave labour) is meaningless without costumers to please.

[@ben_alfred]

we ought to venerate the british for ending slavery, and the west for being the first to recognise it as an evil. god save the king - and god bless the british empire

[@user-xu9ib9cd6d]

Caribbean people were forced to speak English, surnames were Changed to English, what about our culture? Everything was changed the white man . Forced religion Lots more

[@user-xu9ib9cd6d]

​Why did it take 300 years to end slavery? Slavery ended because slaves were plotting to kill slave masters. There were rebellions. So UK was forced to compensate slave masters. Why after 300 years?

[@rkay3707]

anyone read HEART OF DARKNESS by James Conrad?

[@BoredOfBills]

Does anyone know in which order these speakers came to the table? I'd like to hear them in order..

[@Morningstar193]

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[@lakshyagupta6496]

isn't apology meaningless if I have to tell you to apologize to me, shouldn't it come from ones own judgement of the self

[@chintalagopi7412]

Let's say somebody rapes one of your family members.. let's say your wife or sister or your mother.. do you want an apology by their self judgement or do you demand it..? Think through.. u and I were not the victims of those horrors.. so it's easy to bullshit on KZbin without even having an Idea of what those people went through..

[@st3019]

Well , if Britain owe reparations the everyone is the planet does.

[@orvillebrown7235]

There is no question that slavery and colonialism was cruel and exploitive and that Britain owes at least a moral debt to the former colonies. But Assamba was too emotional and she undermines her argument in the end with the plea for help to solve the social problems thereby unmasking the true motives of the reparation lobby; to find an easy way out of the mess that some of us have made. First, all our problems were to have been solved by socialism taking from the rich and giving to to the poor. Then Michael Manley's new international economic order (NIEO) was going to effect a major transfer of wealth from developed to developing nations. Now we are, through reparations, to call in payments due two hundred years ago. There is no easy way out. Botswana and Rwanda achieved success by their own efforts, Singapore applied the Jamaican model and is prosperous now, and only by our sustained and well-directed efforts will Jamaica and other former colonies prosper and the drive for reparation is a distraction from the tasks of nation building. The sudden injection of cash that some reparationists seem to want, would be a recipe for inflation and corrupt misuse of funds.

[@rameshshinde5662]

Good speech Nicely nailed

[@niranjand4238]

It does not make it right. ***Bang**

[@tompcd1189]

She didn't let him finish his point though

[@iamnode2088]

@@tompcd1189 will you everyone is interepting not to finish your speech

[@tompcd1189]

@@iamnode2088 ?

[@snowflakemelter1172]

This is all based on the new pastime of rewriting history to suit your own agenda. Instead of studying history impartially you now cherry pick what you want , and judge the past by the norms of today. Our human history is of empires, the weak being abused by the strong, the British Empire was mostly based on trade, and cooperation, not military force, it could not have functioned otherwise. You will also notice the liberal lefties never mention the Arab slave trade, or the fact Europeans only bought slaves at the coasts of Africa, who were supplied by Africans themselves.

[@meocean5499]

Rufus Chucklebutty we don’t do so because you enslaved us in the continent and in the new countries you just created, the Arabs doesn’t have our artifacts in their lands, the majority of us don’t speak Arab, you stole our language and destroyed our culture well at least tried to, and you repeatedly brag about these methods in your arts and cinema. so please watch your mouth.

[@jimjones8736]

@@meocean5499 The Arabs don't deserve "artifacts". The tend to destroy them. In fact, Arabs ARE artifacts.

[@jaygadhiya9908]

@@meocean5499 No point in arguing with this guy, just read what his last name goes by "Churchill", this guy wrote that British empire was based on trade and cooperation, so according to him the brits were present for 200 yrs in India and 255 yrs in Jamaica for "COOPERATION".

[@scorpioninpink]

There should have been an Irish speaker for reparation because the Brits hasn't apologize to any atrocities they committed against the Irish up until the late 90's.

[@raymundofantastico]

We're not asking for an apology, we're asking to go back in time for them to undo what they've done to us and all atrocities that THEY have committed which is impossible. There are other ways in which the United Kingdom can/should make all the necessary reparations that they owe.

[@cohort075]

The Irish civil war was bloody and brutal, was it not? Dublin was the biggest slave market in Western Europe at one point in history. What about William Ronan, who worked for the Royal African Company? Who became chairman of the committee of merchants at Cape Coast Castle on the Gold Coast (Ghana), running one of the biggest slave markets in the world, from 1687 to 1697. Benjamin McMahan, an Irish man, worked for 18 years as an overseer on Jamaican plantations, later becoming an abolitionist. David Tuohy, an Irishman moved to Liverpool, and became a captain on a slave ship, then settled down in the city, managing his business, which included trading in slaves. Felix Doran, an Irish Catholic, who moved to Liverpool and became wealthy from the slave trade, and financing at least 69 slave voyages. And what about the Irish owned and run sugar plantations in Jamaica. Not as cut and dry is it?

[@deeps9152]

we need like a.. about umm 100k djangos to go to UK with a riffle and a huge cache of ammo.

[@IzettMcCalla]

Wow. Well done Aloun. Well said. 👍

[@MrPrasadwolverine]

Can't believe those young people on the other side still backing their country's wrong doings.

[@DuskAndHerEmbrace13]

Oh gosh, I didn't know slavery was bad!

[@navajasrs2402]

SelfReferencingName Mmmkay?

[@hemamikkilineni]

A mind that treats another human as a slave can never claim to be "devleoped." British are the most un-developed.

[@amct1019]

But all of the guilty parties are long dead. Are Britons still undeveloped (I assume that is what you mean by "devleoped") even though current Britons are innocent of the crime that you have mentioned?

[@moniquel6273]

AMCT 101 Yes they are 'undeveloped' because they are unwilling to acknowledge and tell the truth about what happened. If Britons are not guilty, then why act guilty?

[@amct1019]

Joni M What do you want me to feel guilty about and apologise before? I am a Briton, I am very much aware (as are all other people who had a British education) that Britain has been responsible for a great number of crimes against humanity. But your response is that because of the actions of long dead ancestors you call me sub-human in comparison to the development of other humans. What did I do to deserve this prejudice that you have against me? Do I call Turkish people undeveloped because once upon a time they kidnapped thousands of Britons and turned them into slaves (under the name of the Ottoman Empire)? Of course not, I respect my fellow humans. (If you would like to read more about slave trades from Europe to the middle east and north Africa have a read of the Ottoman and Barbary slave trades)

[@hemamikkilineni]

Hi AMCT101... your point is valid. Also appreciated your courage in mentioning about Britain's past sordid actions. I had mentioned before: I did not insinuate anything to the current generation of Britons. My statement was with reference to the people/political mind-set who were directly involved at that time. Let's hope that at least from now on no one's freedom is ever taken away! Cheers.

[@amct1019]

Hema Mikkilineni Thanks for the kind reply :) Just letting you know that my previous comment was to 'Joni M' who says that current average Briton is undeveloped.

[@tonys490]

she is brilliant ... love her

[@kellyedey8573]

Adore the blond hair she is sporting, at least you’re not exploiting my Asian sisters hair and wearing it with pride as if it came out of your own scalp. Especially when it’s blonde, long and blonde , begs belief.

[@jamesmurphy3899]

what about those place in India whiteboard hanging written Indian or dog do not allow

[@poisiion]

those two chicks on the stage, i bet they have no fucking idea what they're doin there :)

[@bhavinb.artstation]

They were high dude on cocaine

[@anshu.sbhatia4179]

But who are they?

[@mar-val3130]

Respect madam, I do understand your view. If someone don't understand this issue then they need to study history

[@dt6822]

Yes. And they will discover that the only reason why half the world is civilized is because of Britain. Almost all the science is British, computers, agro food tech, on and on. Have you paid us for the telephone? Or penicilin? Bl

[@haza123b4]

@@dt6822 *You invented the telephone? What are you doing in the KZbin comment section?*

[@dt6822]

@@haza123b4 I invented the telephone in the same way as any Briton owes reparations to anyone. If you're going to collectivize and stereotype the alleged guilt, then it's only fair game I collectivize the accomplishments.

[@dhruvchaudhary5379]

@@dt6822- you need to maybe read a bit more if you think Scientific thought process was the outcome of imperial colonialism. This presumes that there were no schools of science and medicine , mathematics that existed prior to the colonial invasions - which as history is testament is grossly inaccurate. And the fact that you bring those arguments clearly demonstrates your naïveté

[@dt6822]

@@dhruvchaudhary5379 Yeah yeah. India was a paradise.

[@jimcorbet9008]

Has anyone audited Assambas bank records, stocks, land holdings and how much income she gets from multiple sources ? I'm not saying she's a crook, but this lady is not suffering and lives a life of luxury and much more .....

[@opola1432]

Jim.. you slimey snake.. why are you deflecting away from the point?

[@nikko2632]

preach

[@MrSaugacity]

Leave them to Dai'sh sista.

[@stephenstone8968]

Did the British navy also help to stop slavery

[@elizabethtan8343]

Even on tiny islands in US Virgin Island of St John and St Martin, I saw many sugar plantations and the quarters of the slaves.

[@bigjambo5921]

At the moment I’m sitting watching the BBC news and seeing poor unfortunate children needing doctor / hospital care. These countries strangely enough are nearly all African, now if you also include India you can see why there highly paid government ministers, academics, and business people want to keep up the mantra that British Colonial Rule ruined there country’s. It deflects the real reason these countries have not looked after there hard working terribly poor people and children. Theses countries have had independence for many, many years, in India’s case 75 years, there governments have been totally incompetent and inept. Their governments are corrupt and have looked after there friends and the elite, in India’s case 10% of the population own 70% of the riches. In African countries, poor people still live in mud huts, tin huts, no electricity or running water, hospital or doctor care. No wonder in Britain we see countless adverts from charities begging for money to help African countries and to help in India. Don’t blame former British Colonial Rule on these countries ills, look closer to home at your own corrupt governments

[@timothyfoster4447]

I hope the Queen,remember s,that lady called "Karma".She is coming to whites,,karma is a bad thing..😉😉😉

[@xenzorygames4116]

@Happy Joy Bravo well if you don't know history Arabs were the first ones to invade India but they accepted the fact and stayed with Indians and made places around them that suite them that is the reason we don't speak out of Arabs looting India as well if you don't know the true Indians were Dravidians (Tamils, Telugu's, Kannada, Malayali's, Mexicans, Hispanics, Cambodian's, and much more) they were the first people to travel across the Globe and we settled in different places we were the real Europeans, then we were the first people to settle in India then we started traveling a lot after the greek attempted invasion on India then we moved on to Europe, North America, South America, Australia, and New Zealand. that is why you see a lot of Mexicans and Hispanics look like south Indians because they were of the same race this is proof coming from genetic studies. that is the reason Indians can migrate to any country and live in any weather.

[@xenzorygames4116]

@Happy Joy Bravo you talked about arabs but when it comes ethinicity it sounds offensing to you now?

[@morriswilburn9858]

The people who ran the slave trade and related plantations are now deceased. So who will pay the reparations?

[@deadsouls72]

They Have To Go Back!

[@ProblematicBitch]

europeans in america, australia and south africa?

[@cattywool1]

I am Jamaican from westmoreland and definitely agree with Alecz she is a former politician and her party has been in power for most of Jamaica's history and look were the country is at today. Singapore gained independence two years after us and then prime minister Mr. Lee Kuan Yew came to Jamaica took our ideas went back home to Singapore and look at Singapore today. I definitely would like the slave owning families in Britain that benefited from slavery to pay reparation in some suitable way to these former colonies but I don't think that Britain should it self pay. A next thing is that if u listen to her speak it is as tho Jamaica could not have done way better,look at Singapore we and them was at the same level what happen to Jamaica, but i guess we all know what happen, the thieving wicked no good Jamaican so-called leaders have F&%ked us good and proper.

[@Sui_Generis0]

Wth was those point of information 'response' about - she didn't even allow them to finish

[@Shaft610]

We just want both sides of history to be told not just the side that make’s British look and sound good

[@meekrob29]

It's a bit of a logical jump to say "Slavery was bad, therefore Britain owes reparations." I think every one in opposition believes slavery was wrong. The issue for me is: can you hold all Britons collectively responsible for this injustice and force them to pay all former colonized countries? The African tribes that captured people and sold them the Europeans benefited from that exchange, but this sort of general reparation would give to their descendants as well as the descendants of those victimized. Similarly, in Britain the average person was not a beneficiary of the empire. The average Briton had to pay the taxes that supported the army, navy, and vast array of civil servants that went about subjugating the world. It was the rich and well connected that pushed for empire and reaped it's profits. It's simply not true that Britain as a whole became rich because of empire. Real and lasting wealth was created by free markets, having been partially unleashed from former years of mercantilism, guilds, serfdom and other forms of predation and exclusion. The empire, being based on force and mercantilism, was the biggest deviation from that and rightly opposed by proponents of free markets like Cobden, Bright, and Gladstone.

[@georgelyseight1502]

meekrob29 The average Briton did derive residual benefits from the unpaid labor that fueled Britain's wealth.

[@heartlandranchtv4943]

meekrob29 Slavery has existed for many thousands of years, and all races have been enslaved at one time or another. There is nothing unique or special about black African slavery. In fact, black Africans were enslaving themselves long before the white man came, and still do to this day. No one "owes" anyone else reparations at this point. You could also make the argument that what little success and competitiveness India does have in the 21st century is mostly due to the improvements made during British colonialism.

[@georgelyseight1502]

chap0syoutuification I am not surprise that you would think that the presence of the British exploiters carried some benefits.

[@arterotica717]

chap0syoutuification "And so did the countries that were under colonial rule." What a load of shyte. When slavery ended and the British slave masters got £17 billion in today's money as compensation for losing their prized slaves, the slaves themselves got a big fat nothing.

[@arterotica717]

HeartlandRanchTV You need to go educate yourself.

[@abhiindia1978]

The day is not far when brits will stand in queue for a job in India or China. The days are counted. Already the 'united' in UK is loosing its relevance. I personally feel sorry for the present generation of Brits and the coming generations because they are going to pay for their forefather's act (karma)

[@MrPhilcoolio]

+Abhilash Raj lol brits will never queue for jobs in a country where justice is considered to be the raping of two sisters for the crime of their brother. your anti white racist fantasies are just that, fantasies.

[@Tommyfungun]

British economy is growing and is the fifth largest in the world they only have 60 million population. I suggest India stop spending money on space programmes and feed the thousands of starving and children in India.

[@sadanandpoojari5811]

+Tommyfungun who are you to interfer in our internal matter it is our money and you don't care about Indian and poor people in India we know very well what you did for us during your rule in India the today problem of poverty and hunger is because of your country

[@andrewwilliams3137]

@@sadanandpoojari5811 In 2012, India was ranked 66th in the Global Hunger Index compiled by IFPRI (International Food Policy Research Institute). It is one of only three countries in Asia where the level of hunger is deemed “alarming”; the other two are Nepal (ranked 60th) and Bangladesh (ranked 68th). India may be included in the “BRIC” category of high growth dynamic economies. However, insofar as feeding its population is concerned, India is in the exclusive company of LDCs (least developed countries, mainly in Sub-Saharan Africa).

[@upadhyayrathiraj1518]

@@Tommyfungun Now India is the 5th largest economy, not UK. There are food shortages there, the landlords are paid in sex by many lady tennants, road to doom is written in bold.

[@stevegodenich7087]

The African Black victim and the European White oppressor seems to be the theme that underlines the debate. What if that was not entirely true!? See "Researchers uncover Africans' part in slavery" from CNN on October 20th, 1995. Akousa Perbi has written "A History of Indigenous Slavery in Ghana from the 15th to the 19th Century" which may be an interesting read. I only read the book review.

[@GaryHField]

That may be true, but that's another topic. The topic here was the enslavement of people of color by White people.

[@robertbroadbent3038]

I hope they never get a penny!

[@bbnCRLB]

Why are Africans still talking about slavery and colonization. The Hong Kong Chinese moved on. They are in the process of decolonization. Africans should go back to small tribes that they existed in and grow into nations of their own, may be then true development will be experienced.

[@tonywhite2647]

Hong Kong was a trading hub to(Banks) transfer goods and services. So infrastructure was built, maintained, and also no natural resources it's really exist in Hong Kong to export, but in Africa has the natural resources.

[@gary53]

The money needs to go to the upkeep of the directly effected grave sites...

[@karenjacobs2508]

Talking is not gonna work. We have to c ok me together and fight to the death for our ancestors reparation

[@andyd2033]

I take it you’re British and you’re talking about reparations from the Italian government for their past enslavement of the people of Britain. I couldn’t agree with you more.

[@bradmodd7856]

Maybe it goes both ways....they can also pay Britain for fighting 2 world wars to ensure the freedom they now have...the moral calculations are unimaginable....to do this right that is

[@Nairah912]

Well they also fought in the war… they were “British”. And despite fighting in the war the colonies were not exactly given “freedom”, they had to fight for their own freedom in regard to colonialism. We stopped paying (via our taxes) reparations for slave owners in 2015.

[@shianjordan2391]

😐 the comment on lethal ignorance 👍, however this only skirts the reality of the dumbing down, sorry to be so blunt, still the debate was a farce of the un-knowledgeable, socially engineered minions 😑

[@peter-johndejong9880]

Maybe the current governments of former colonies should pay reparations to the citizens for ill governance and fraud as well.

[@mayurbhattacharjee1314]

Don't play transferring blame tactics It won't erase the stigma on British empire

[@michaelthomas1212]

my ancestors in medieval europe felt the wraith of the arab slave trade maybe i could get some reparations

[@krystalccameron7689]

I think you missed the point of the first ‘point of information’, he wasn’t saying slavery isn’t wrong, he’s saying it’s been a practice for centuries and it’s a wrong that’s been perpetuated on many people’s. In that context; why should Britain pay reparations?

[@krystalccameron7689]

Blue eye which ‘you’ are you referring to babes?

[@graybeard9942]

So your saying, because thieves in the past were successful in hanging unto there loot, future thieves should also be allowed to?.

[@krystalccameron7689]

@@graybeard9942 why use the example of theft? It's a Jamaican woman in this video wanting apologies, soul searching and of course money/'assistance' from people who've done nothing to her and her countrymen.

[@graybeard9942]

@@krystalccameron7689 you're missing the point, she has been robbed of her history and all generational wealth that would have accrued to her instead of being looted to bulge the coffers of England. That Krystal is what is crystal clear, your forefathers were murderers, rapists, racists, plundering looting thiefs. That is the genesis of your wealth today even though as you say you had nothing to do with it. That is the stench that surrounds England and other European colonizers, and to add insult to injury you tell us to forget about it. I wonder why all the world wars have been about Europe.

[@krystalccameron7689]

@@graybeard9942 did you read the part of history where Britain threw it's considerable weight and resources behind abolition. Why leave that part out? Is it inconvenient that Britain's forefathers were also emancipators? Is it inconvenient that life expectancy, education and infant mortality all improved in Africa after British colonisation? Is it inconvenient that it was British missionaries who went to her home country of Jamaica and opened catechetical schools to spread literacy amongst the slaves? That it was the missionaries who promoted slaves as leaders in the church? That it was those same British missionaries who allowed for the Baptist Church in Falmouth to be used as the base for the slave rebellion known as the 'Baptist war'? That those same British missionaries traveled back and forth to England to raise funding and rally support for abolition while withstanding abuse and violence and expulsions from planters? Is it inconvenient that it was other west African tribes that destroyed villages, towns and cities after stealing all their wealth, ancestral relics and then making slaves of the conquered while mercilessly marching them to the coast in chains? Is it inconvenient that the people you feel so much rage towards are long dead? Is the inconvenience so deep that you're prepared to steal from people who committed no offenses against you? And you speak about integrity... I do recommend you just get over it. Blacks are not an infantile race who need to be handed everything, they are capable of rebuilding their own lives, and investing in their own archeology and histories. They are capable of gaining the world's respect with their resilience and innovations. They are capable of seeing how incredible their legacy is; to be made into slaves by their neighbours, survive a harrowing journey to the other end of the earth, survive and even thrive while they helped to build the modern world, first at the end of a lash, and then as equals at the table who gained the respect of people who once thought them subhuman. The legacy that saw them making friends of the people to whom their ancestors were sold by their foes. Blacks are capable and strong and resilient warriors, they are not victims incapable successful development and self determination. So it's a no for me, my integrity will not allow me to loot Britain so I can chop off the son's hand for the father's offense.

[@cohort075]

Watching this 7 years hence, it still boggles the mind at the absolute ridiculousness of speech’s like this. No one denies that slavery was terrible, and brutal, no one does. But to single out one nation, the British nation, and blame it wholly and solely, for the ill’s and suffering, is to be ignorant, and blinkered of history. The King of Benin, in 1840, said he would do anything the British government wanted, but leave him, and his country the slave trade, because he was making £250,000 pounds a year from the slave trade. Where is the call for repatriation for Benin to pay repatriations? There are two statues in Nigeria, to a woman named Tinubu, a merchant, and slave owner, and trader. She has statues, because she resisted British influence in Nigeria, because the British were trying to stamp out slavery, and the slave trade. It is reported, that when she was SELLING 20 slaves to a Brazilian slave trader, he gave her a low price, she was heard to say, “I would rather drown them, than sell them cheaply”. Where are the calls for Nigeria to pay reparations? And what about the Muslim slave trade? Nobody really cares, or talks about that, do they? 1,400 years of slave trading, even TODAY, they are still at it. There is a group of African descendants, the Siddis, in India, brought there by Muslim slave traders, and Indian sultans, and most are still second class citizens in India. Where is the outrage of this by this woman? Where is the call for reparations from India, and from Turkey, and Portugal, and Spain, and Brazil, and all the other countries who have been involved with the slave trade. Why just Britain, who actually ended the slave trade for everyone?

[@theinformationbomber7102]

bcs britain has the most amount of blood on their hands since the past 500 years that's why

[@kellyedey8573]

What did the British get out of Nigeria?, in fact, Nigeria owes reparations themselves

[@itstime6495]

and all the jamaicans living on benefits in the UK today ???

[@alchemist8727]

More like you whites, who had to be taught to bathe your skin. Remember the milk OUR black woman had to give by breastfeeding your ancestors sick babies back to strength you are a degenerative racial group scared of the melanin power we have as the first and chosen people. Lool

[@theinformationbomber7102]

​@@alchemist8727 well said my friend these whites will pay back for all what they have done big time karma's coming to them pretty soon

[@caliom8427]

My forefathers were not much better than slaves, and they lived in Britain! How have I benefitted from slavery?

[@timothyfoster4447]

It was genocide

[@nevinthephilippines]

Now i know the facts.

[@kellyedey8573]

Then reparations for every ethnicity that has ever been in slaved,. I truly believe that is such a thing as black fragility.

[@revol148]

of course there is no-one from Singapore, Burma or China here wallowing in self-pity demanding money for their education system whilst trying to lay guilt on a hall full of people born 300+ years after the slave trade etc - and why? after all those three countries also experienced colonialism - perhaps it's because they have moved on and are looking forward far too busy building their own countries into first world economies.Still as we all know Afro-Carribeans and Africans are not capable of doing that.

[@rarepheno94]

You hit the nail on the head. Not all men are created equal.

[@revol148]

@@rarepheno94 ever met an intelligent Afro-Caribbean ? me neither !

[@MrEvilTurkey]

They speak and act like children 😅

[@revol148]

@@MrEvilTurkey and where they congregate in the biggest numbers there is the greater levels of backwardness: the continent of Africa, the inner suburbs of most American cities, the Caribbean islands....

[@aalekhsharma]

It was like she is telling a horror story. The Suspense was created by her during her speech.

[@user-xu9ib9cd6d]

Colonizers

[@miller000killer]

No we dont

[@aaronlimeuchin7352]

Slavery is wrong regardless of what, but the act to justify another country's past to cover for Britain slavery and imperialism is nothing short of pure ignorance and cowardice.

[@andreduncan4224]

Reparations must include free trade, custom union, free movement, and payment.

[@richardmorley8309]

Shè has done will. Why work hard love your family simply this makes me sad. Same rich people did will yes but most worked hard do they won't money

[@Nsingh2466]

Indentured Labor is a more palatable term for slavery. The land that the Indians were sold were not usable. They had no choice but to rely on working in the estates.

[@OghamTheBold]

With *R > G* (as Thomas Piketty points out) - I've decided - no plantation for me - if that means utter destabilisation - so be it - and I would remind people - I did not start the fire - I raised my voice in support of Corbyn - in support of Sanders - and if their voices were blown - by the violent winds of change - remember your eternal silence

[@xenzorygames4116]

At least Jamaicans were bought, Indians were given for free and we would have to even pay for it.

[@Nairah912]

Listen to yourself. I say this as a descendent of black slaves and Indian indentured servants in Jamaica . At least they were bought ?.. wow this isn’t a competition, the money used to buy slaves went into the same pockets the Indians were paying into. They were bought, without consent, treated like subhumans and working for free. English merchants made money from slavery, money that would then go on to aid in the colonisation of others and looting of several countries. Do we just ignore the rapes, lynchings and cultural cleansing because at least we were bought? Do we ignore the fact that we carry the names of those who packed us in ships like sardines ? I don’t know if your intent was to offend, and given that you’re essentially agreeing with the negative impact of British colonialism I doubt you intended to offend, but this was a deeply offensive comment.

[@ElectricShark]

I disagree with her argument but she is a well spoken elegant lady. She carries herself well, has a great presence, and just seems so sophisticated and cool.

[@ukbloke28]

She's rude, aggressive and a huge bigot. Nice accent though.

[@ervivekchoubey]

🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️

[@andyd2033]

Italians need to pay the Brits, along with the Danes.

[@RezaRob3]

Regardless of the content of her speech, she shouldn't permit a question and then not allow the person a reasonable chance to make his point.

[@RezaRob3]

I will upvote the video because I appreciate that she emphasized the human aspects and the indignation of slavery. A very important point to remember.

[@T.image79]

I feel a need to qualify my statements by pointing out that educating ourselves on the e vils of the past isn't supposed to take away from the creativity of Europeans. Nonetheless those of us who have educated ourselves outside but in addition to the European curriculum have a simple responsibility to point out that the development of Europe didn't happen in a vacuum. The simple fact that even an illiterate slave can give you free time to meditate and focus on "inventing" escapes the mind (white or otherwise) that has been educated by the European curriculum alone. This in addition to the lucrative profits that came in from both slavery and colonialism. People also fail to understand that modern industrialisation is built upon human exploitation, pure and simple. The sweatshops of Asia and child labour are the exact same models Europe used on its own population. To help feed the industry and "profits" of what we call capitalism. Except of course Europe had the add twin engines of first slavery then colonialism/neo-colonialism. Think about it people, the notable ancient civilisations of Egypt, South America, India, china and others easily hand the maths and science to do the incredible things we have around today. The main thing Missing from them was a systemic culture or exploitation which allows factories whose main purpose mass production for maximum profit. Think about it and study. The modern economic system despite all its advantages is made possible through intense and endemic exploitation. The modern economic system is a direct baby of slavery and colonialism. That's why it has so many problems of exploitation and inequality built into it. It has been birthed through the blood sacrifice of 100's of millions of human beings. And we still haven't come out of the exploitative state it was birthed in. As incredible and wonderful as modern technology is....it is and will be for a long time tainted with blood and human sacrifice of the worst kind.

[@revol148]

all this is valid but you seem not to address the key point that colonialism ended over 73 years ago and most of the continent of Africa is still in a complete mess.We seem to disagree as to why this is - I maintain it's the inherent backwardness of black people coupled with the superiority of the whiteman - the gulf between the two worlds and races is startling whereas you keep banging on about the transatlantic slave trade or colonialism.It's not even a European v African issue either - after all it's not as if generations of blacks have achieved anything tangible in the USA long after slavery was abolished.

[@T.image79]

revol148 dude.....you clearly believe africans are backwsard. thats o.k, i guess everyone is entitled to their beliefs. However if you are genuinely seeking truth even if it hurts or destroys your beliefs then it's time you read some books on african history. you can even start with books written by white authors who are very well respected in their expertise. I can even start you off. look up books written by Basil Davidson on african history. if you can't do that then replying to my comments is a waste of time. stay in your bubble. yes black people are backward yaddda yaddda yaddda. good day sir.

[@revol148]

Thanks for the link I will check it out.In the meantime is there any chance that you could address my observation about the state of Africa in 2016? It is in no way a white v black issue - there are plenty of Asians who talk about what happened in post-colonial Uganda who claim that the place went to hell after the whites left - perhaps they have an axe to grind after all they were themselves chucked out of their country by Idi Amin for the crime of not being black African.Personally I'm no cheerleader for colonialism - I believe the host nation of any country should run their own affairs and if they want to turn their country from the breadbasket of Africa to a country with the highest inflation rate in the world then it is up to the Zimbabwe people to let that happen - which they have but it would be refreshing to have some acknowledgment of that fact.

[@revol148]

Basil Davidson talks about African history - but what of the future? You surely must look on the thousands fleeing (and drowning) on the voyage from Africa to southern Europe and ask yourself - is this the best contemporary black people can do? Look at south Africa - even the ANC hasn't quite met the great expectations that was hoped for back in 1994....

[@T.image79]

revol148 Dude. You are addressing too many different points at the same time. Me.....I only address one point at a time. And only when that point has been fully concluded and closed am I willing to start on another point. It helps me to avoid endless chatter that leads nowhere. It also helps me who are simply not interested in changing their views no matter the evidence. Everything I read from you seems to come from this foundational belief of African inferiority/backwardness. This is what shapes your opinions of Africa's condition. It seems like your only interest is to get black people to admit to this. So I will not budge from this point. I will not talk about Africa today with you because that is jumping to point number 2 without having first resolved poin 1. And point one is that Africans are inferior/backward. This is so crucial that it shapes every conclusion you have when assessing Africa today. This is the primary point. So before you go onto analysing Africa's problems you need to first educate yourself on the Africa you think you know. Another author I will recommend is Martin Bernal --- Black Athena. You don't need my or anyone else's opinions. You need education so that you may have opinions based on truth rather than propaganda, prejudice or deception. Honestly there are literally loads of books by so many respected scholars and historians who are white educated from institutions like Cambridge university e.t.c! Any local library will have lots of these books. Again am gonna leave it there. I can't address any other point of yours until we resolve point 1. That is until I can have a meaningful discussion about a book (written by a respected authority on the subject)you have read on African history and contribution to civilisation. You don't have to agree with what the book says but if I have a brief discussion then I will know you at leas read the said book

[@peter-johndejong9880]

They are unable to make their own countries prosperous, and claim reparation,

[@TabooTalz]

Our countries were prosperous until those we claim reparations from destroyed them.

[@Ayplus]

Wait, so there are European people there arguing against Reparations and/or understating the lasting effects of Slavery? Wow.

[@funtimesatbeaverfalls]

Of course, they had nothing to do with the slave trade so why should they have to pay?. If European's should pay then so should Arab's and African's.

[@kenwkls6392]

@@funtimesatbeaverfallsok cool. africans will pay In due time. First you!!! The descendants of the people that profited the most and created the transatlantic slave trade.

[@colinpeck8257]

Italians [Romans[, Scandinavians, French, Barbara pirates, King of Mali, Germans [twice], Japanese, when these pay the UK historical reparations, fine .. reparations.

[@gervanmyers3066]

Taking MONEY would be ideal for GB but not for the Caribean. Every GB $pounds would literally trickle back to GB but technical and educational along with the actual machine's and structures would remain and pass on for generations just like the Memory of the Pains that our Foreparents suffered at the hands of GREAT BRITAIN.

[@DdotTindall]

Can I get some reparations from the feudal lords who forced my ancestors to be farmers?

[@kenwkls6392]

Go for it. that's just more reparations for the white people to pay. whats so funny is that people like you think they can joke about asking for reparations. But I bet you you'd be more likely to get the reparations you asked for than black people.

[@bluesclues132]

You're too busy asking G_d to save the person who owes you that money.

[@alphathefirstone1222]

CUT THE CHECK .. DOS ACROSS RISE UP!! CUT CHECK !!

[@billballbuster7186]

This is a new take on the begging bowl and doctored history. Britain did buy Staves from Africa 200 years ago from the Arab-African Slave trade which had been going on for many hundreds of years before the British arrived. In the 1800s Britain banned Slavery and stopped the transportation of Slaves across the Atlantic. Since the 1950s many African and Asian countries have been supported by British Aid money. Why should modern British tax payers give money to people who have never been slaves for generations. Remember that Slavery was conducted by a small political elite, the vast majority of British people had no vote or civil rights prior to 1919, so why should they be asked to pay ????

[@alvinflynn766]

Talking about it won't make any difference cause every move made to escape they keep putting in place systems to again control even better it's made in advance cause they already know the next move so getting away means taking it by force allegedly

[@100Denario]

Up to 14 million blacks were enslaved by Islamic peoples and nations. Are they to pay back reparations too? Is Britain to pay back Ireland? Is the son to make reparations for the sins of the father? My family didnt even come to America until after slavery…..are they to make reparations? How can an individual repay anything without knowing precisely how much he is accountable to repay as an individual himself? I judge people as individuals, not as entire groups as a person is not a group and group membership can simply be inherited, unconsciously at that. I don’t Identify people by group. I identify them by character and as things devolve in society, people see people as members of opposing tribes as opposed to members of the same species…..humanity. There is no end to reparations once it starts and once it starts, all developed infrastructure will collapse and all under developed infrastructure will still be too unstable to keep well itself…and will also further degenerate from its current state of being……This is the end of one age. I hope, wish, and pray the best for everyone. Our resolve is in Gods hands and the choices we make. God bless everyone.

[@alexandrk6078]

Yep kids have to pay for the parents' sin . Further more i suggest that Mongols ( Mongolians ) to start pay reparations to the half of the world Dont forgets about Great Caliphate, for sure there are some grand grand grand ancestries We can continue over and over

[@partiesover9629]

Indian? Nah man one Jamaican oman dis.

[@kareenwatson6084]

Well done Aloun Assamba.

[@angelaslack4843]

A way forward must be found no more denial or looking back in the rearview mirror we must cooperate to build a better future the record shows that Japan and S. Korea did it after the 2nd world war and being devasted and ravaged ..the other Asian tigers such as Singapore and so on put us[caribbean] to shame. Where is the collective will and discipline to fall in line behind a cohesive plan and stick to it? Well, I think that there are psychological variables that exist in a post-slavery psyche that may not in that of a society that has never been enslaved and they may account for the dysfunctional way in which Caribbean post slavey society have tottered forward rather than gained traction and make decisive leaps forward. It rests on the millennials to pull this Caribbean train forward they will have emerged with less trauma and more will,l I hope, to be decisive and pragmatic about self-determination and success.

[@mewtew8006]

Then everyone in the world could claim reparations from everyone

[@steveoldfield2607]

So I would expect all the nations that have Colonised Britain through the centuries to also pay Reparations or does that not count ?

[@paulcooper7408]

It doesn't count because it happened to white people and the basis of reparations is racism against white people.

[@noahjohnson5312]

who are they? and do their states even still exist? the british state that committed the attrocities of colonialism still exists.

[@steveoldfield2607]

@@noahjohnson5312 Britain was Colonised by the numerous Viking Scandinavian Countries that still exist today , also the Normans ie the French and obviously the Romans ie Italians , even Adolph Hitler had a go to name but a few ! There are a estimated 700 000 Slaves in Africa today , White people didn’t invent Slavery they ended it , if you really want to know the true History of Slavery I recommend you study Thomas Sowells , Black Rednecks and White Liberals in particular The Real History of Slavery chapter 3 plus I’m sure you can listen to it on line . We are being lied to every day !

[@davidmurray2964]

What about reparations for the barbary slave trade. Nobody discusses that

[@tommaroes8445]

They would not want to accept that but they would offer Jamaica £25 million to build a Prison not hospitals or Schools kkkkkkk

[@pratheekshashetty1075]

that country was looted 10 times of that you douchebag..watch a speech from shashi tharoor from same panel.

[@ray26456]

I want to ask the brits (the arrogant ones who never accpet what reality is) if u were ever colonized by a superior country and became slaves and after some years when u get independence would u not ask for that nation to compensate for what they did to u ( and i dont mean in a negative way but much rather just try keeping urselves in their shoes like u will feel that something wrong was done with u and u asked that country for reparations and if they keep ignoring u then how would u feel)

[@bes6736]

As a brit, i accept that a lot of the british empire was simply horrific and evil. However, Britain has been invaded many times, the Romans and the Vikings for example made many Britons slaves. This has been going on for 1000's of years by all sorts of groups of people. The Eyptian empire, the Mongolian empire, the Roman empire, the Greek empire... the list goes on. All of the these empires enslaved people. It doesnt make it right, it is still evil, but it isnt just Britain...

[@Tempestora01]

So after this is accepted, will the next motion be, that england will demand reperations from france? Or from Norway and Denmark? Or even from Italy (roman colonisation)? All mighty countries in every aera and era did horrible things. Let's just call it "humans" did horrible things. But you can't make the people from today responsible for something that happened 100 or 200 or even more years ago.

[@Tempestora01]

@NM 22 Nah, I'm responsible for my own life. I'm not gona sit on my lazy ass, demanding "reperations" for something that happened before my great grandfather was even born. Scapegoating other for your failures and victim mentality will get you nowhere.

[@timothyfoster4447]

So this is how Usa,got its $120 million mansions,,I get it now:/

[@aryanshukla2170]

And y'all thought Americans were dumb

[@Rattlerbrand]

I want reparations from Rome and the vikings and the normans ,,,,,,, when we get it we can pass some on

[@karenjacobs2508]

£72.5 billion is the royal family net world and I think it's more than that come these people are heartless they just need pay us back just use let's say half of there net worth and that cannot pay for all our ancestors pain and blood but it could let us feel a bit better

[@andyd2033]

I hope the Italians are going to pay the Brits reparations for 400 years of occupation and slavery. Same goes for the Danish

[@timothyfoster4447]

Nothing has changed,,lady u cant change evil