Alpha Bros Hate This Video: This is Why They’re Mad

What are they really defending?
When trainers go to war for aversive methods, when they double down on pain, fear, and intimidation, what are they actually fighting for?
It’s not results. We’ve known for decades that these methods create more stress, more fear, and more behavioral fallout.
It’s not about what’s best for dogs, either. The most experienced, credentialed professionals in this field and every behavioral science organization on earth have rejected force-based training because of what it does to dogs long-term.
So what’s left?
Control. Power. The feeling of domination.
That’s what’s really being defended here, not effective training, not the well-being of dogs, just the ego boost that comes from making something obey.
But here’s the reality: Wallace, my current co-star, is a working dog navigating a city environment and others with confidence, focus, and ZERO force.
No shock, no prongs, no intimidation, just skill, preparation, and an understanding of what dogs actually need.
Because at the end of the day, violence doesn’t make you strong, understanding does.
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[@laurengarcia1023]

Thank you! You read online all the time how huskies are independent and need to be "dominated". But as a soft-spoken woman, I've found the opposite. You build a relationship, have patience, lots of exercise, and fun. It's never a surprise that the "balanced" dog trainers always have them on their list of dogs they don't like to train because they can be emotional and independent and playful and definitely wouldn't respond well to force. But no dog does. It's just like with kids. Some kids handle poor parenting with the appearance of good behavior, other kids act out or don't comply, but they're all damaged by dominating tactics that lack patience and thoughtfulness and are rooted in an awful mentality.

[@lucyb8802]

Well said! ❤❤❤

[@Here4TheHeckOfIt]

I have to second that - well said!

[@coyotemoonc3258]

I have encountered this as well at the dog daycare I work at the huskies come to me for attention and avoid my coworkers who are always yelling and reprimending them.

[@Potato-r7r]

No one thinks of kids as being "dominant." But as a parent, you need to set boundaries. If you don't, you have a pushy, unruly kid who does what they want, and some kids are way pushier than others. By laying down some effective rules and being consistent, yet fair, this is logical and makes sense to the dog, but doesn't mean you're trying to "dominate" them so much as just being a responsible leader that keeps them safe (and IMO, preventing/addressing most common behavior problems does keep that dog safe and in their happy home).

[@alexsarbu3978]

​@@Potato-r7r The typical mistake is in believing that consistent rules and boundaries can only be set by force. Or to make from it a purpose in itself, "I have to be the alpha/pack leader". Take any proper book about reward-based training; it will say how to set rules and boundaries, and why and when is it important to do so.

[@enough4073]

Alright enough this has been going on for while now.I'm sorry Zak,all you have proven is you are an infomercial,and puppy trainer.I see so many out there,whenever i go out with my dog(we do so much for him)dog parks,off leash in forests,and dogs we meet, most with your idea.So many have spent good money and crap results.When they see mine,oh my god what a smart dog,no i put lot of work in him,with so called balance.So Zak if you want credibility,show the people what you can do in high level.You refuse to go to podcasts,where so many trainers today do with each other,with different ideas,you just sit back and spew.If you claim you care about dogs as you do,imagine what you can do for dogs with 50k as you been offered imagine.Haz isn t the first to offer big money for even a sit down.Least HAZ shows,nothing hidden.Come on man,save the dogs.So many are put down and end up in shelters.Till than step aside and let trainers use their own methods,without abuse as our laws permit and you go do your own thing.Are you worried to lose subscribers or more and more people get away from your system.So many of these trainers you hate puts their work out there.Some give their time to save these problem dogs and without meds.I don't believe cookie only training.Take your dog in the vid and go in a park with many dogs and distraction and recall him when he is sniffing a bum.Show the work man,cause you are not showing anything,most of us use your system when we puppy train.Call HAZ or any of the others,who have offered money,think of the dogs,and lets turn the dog training world upside down.There is good in both systems.Hate to be a troll,but lot of people have lot of issues with their pets.Also like myself i don't think our dogs belong on a leash every minute of their lives.People are looking for guidance.

[@JamieMcgahey]

Now up to 175k people are offering to chip in and or donate to a charity of Zak’s choice if he participates

[@outnaboutdogtraining]

What I love about this (and hate at the same time) is that it's coming from a man who is a professional dog trainer, using positive reinforcement training! I'm a woman and a professional dog trainer using the same methodologies, and have been saying all of this for over 20 years! I'm often feeling like I'm banging my head against a wall. People, please wake up, we ALL need to do this for the sake of our animals. Thanks for all that you do Zak!!

[@zakgeorge]

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[@dawgbreath8535]

@@zakgeorge = FRAUD - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWTOp4OKhJ58bLc

[@TheLyricalWrdsmth]

I used to have a slightly toxic attitude about training. I've never been what I'd consider abusive, but I've never been afraid to force submission. My curret rescue was horribly traumatized, and is highly intelligent besides. I could tell immediately my old tactics wouldn't work. She shut down, didn't want to listen, would avoid me. She taught me to build trust and love, and the obedience comes. Now I wouldn't do it any other way. Love you Cleo🐾

[@Here4TheHeckOfIt]

😢 That was a touching story. Building a relationship is really the best way to go and you did great.

[@Felix-jo7nj]

This is why LIMA and force-free communities opt to focus on the dog and relationship before we focus on training. because forcing submission comes to outcomes like Cleo (before you had her) and dogs who suffer from learned helplessness and simply mask their feelings and needs.

[@alexsarbu3978]

@@Felix-jo7nj LIMA is problematic, in fact it was made to support the use of forceful methods. Please have a look at Dr. Eduardo Fernandez' LIFE approach.

[@Chris01494]

Are they mad because once again you’ve managed to find the emptiest downtown in any city you visit for filming?

[@DoanBrianRoessler]

Keep speaking out Zak. I couldn't agree with you more. I am really grateful for you putting your voice out in the world.

[@zakgeorge]

Appreciate it!

[@1Sariat5]

Good video, the point of which will unfortunately be missed or dismissed entirely by many. Remember folks, Zak is not accusing _everyone_ who trains dogs by force of being abusive to humans as well. Nor is he calling them all terrible people etc. He is simply asking you to think about patterns and correlations here and alternative options. Many men tend to get defensive when confronted with historical (and current) facts about the patriarchy, but I implore those men to take a few moments to really THINK why those defenses kick in! Aggression is unfortunately never the right way forward.

[@donna6618]

🤣😂🤣😂🤣 hilarious... and sad.

[@1Sariat5]

@donna6618 I dont find anything hilarious about it, but it is very sad indeed

[@peterschmidt7409]

Without aggression, we wouldn't be where we are now. You don't have to believe me, read Konrad Lorenz book "the so called evil", in his native tongue german "das sogenannte Böse". You will not like what you can learn there, bit give it a try anyways

[@jessiecheval4827]

Dominance training is exactly that - about dominating a dog into submission, through pain. Your work teaches us to work in co-operation with dogs. There is a world of difference, and you are right - it speaks to how you behave in every relationship. Thank you for what you do Zak.

[@ApocalypticK9Art]

@jessiecheval4827 I'm not sure if you're talking about balanced training or something totally different, but balanced training is 90% positive. Corrections are just to refine what's been taught with primarily positive methods to ensure the dog will listen in any situation. And corrections are generally not 'shocks.' Most people who use ecollars use a vibration setting to get the dog's attention. You can use whatever methods you like, but before you call something cruel or unethical, just look at the dogs! Take Shield K9 and STSK9 for example - their dogs are super happy and enthusiastic, even when wearing the ecollar or prong. They are not complying out of fear - they genuinely love working with their handlers. Tools can be used incorrectly in a way which causes dog's fear and pain, but when uses right, they're totally ethical.

[@alexsarbu3978]

@ApocalypticK9Art If you only hit your wife 10% of the times you interact with her, it would still be abuse. Even if it's to make her understand your directions better. We should apply the same criteria with dogs (within reason, of course - thus, safety leashes and harnesses, and so on). You're saying you only use corrections "to refine what's been taught with primarily positive methods". But why don't you continue to use "primarily positive methods" for these refinements? They work, right? because you've taught up to that point. Or they don't, and then you're punishing the dog because you were unable to properly teach him. But then, people like Zak can do it all the way through reward-based methods, so it's not the dog: it's you. The solution is to stop being complacent and learn better ways of training.

[@Inahorse80]

I love the way you address this issue going on within the dog training world. Simple truth was all you used while showing proof. Bravo 👏. I hope this video will help change many minds on the matter.

[@donna6618]

😂😂😂😂 now, that is hilarious, you comment that Zak George "simple truth" 😂 not even close & certainly NOT from Zak George's mouth. He is a joke, a first class Joke... He could not train a dog, effectively unless it wants to catch a Frisbee.

[@Godwarrior__3]

Any person who says "Alpha bros" shouldn't be taken seriously.

[@beasport505]

Unfortunately there are still trainers who still use old styles including dominance. Dog training is not regulated either. I just ran into a lady with a great pyr mis rescue and the trainer she found told her to put a shock collar on. I'm so glad I met her because I was able to refer her to 3 channels, Zac, mccann and Susan garrett. All have the same positive philosophy.

[@Erin_29]

😅I'd like to see Zak train a Great Pry with his style of training. Have it fully off leash and recall on point. Hm that'd be fun to watch.

[@alexsarbu3978]

@@Erin_29 The problem with the Great Pyrenees is that they're lap dogs.

[@georgeasgautr]

Amazing message 🙏🏻 cheers Zak, hope all is well 😁👍🏻

[@zakgeorge]

Thanks! You too!

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

I don't care about the breed. That dog does not have "issues".

[@MelodyLovesMusic]

Love how you handle the dog with love, kindness & respect. That's how I have raised my 3 labs & one Dachshund too. They are wonderful & very loving dogs.

[@zakgeorge]

That is how I believe all dogs should be treated! 😊

[@KristynRaeV]

Something tells me this is about more than just dogs. Thank you for posting and for always being a truly dog-loving trainer!

[@zakgeorge]

Thanks for noticing! 🙏

[@Erin_29]

Yes it absolutely is more about just dogs. You called out Shield Canine and now he's calling you out. You should take up his offer Zak. I'd love to watch.

[@zakgeorge]

@@Erin_29 to me, this guy is someone who promotes violence towards animals, not someone I would ever associate with in a professional capacity. My record and reputation speaks for itself.

[@Erin_29]

@@zakgeorge okay. Have a good one.

[@Austinlorentzan5499]

​@@zakgeorge Great excuse mate you're just scared because he will simply prove you wrong

[@ThisIsPastelProductions]

I have used your videos to train my puppy. My parents were always set on the: "You must dominate the dog." mindset of training, that yelling and punishment are the only ways to get a dog to behave. But, based on everything I learned from your videos I happily proved them wrong, that you can train a dog through kindness. I'm glad to see that someone, especially you, made a video adamantly apposed to abusive dog training backed up by results. Love your videos Zak and can't wait for more!

[@taramcfadden7076]

Why not just take Haz up on his challenge? What's the big deal if you're so sure you got everything under wraps and are the better trainer? Show us. No more of this passive aggressive back and forth (you mostly, Haz is very direct which is why he's respectable).

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

Zak is a coward. He knows that he really knows nothing, and so isn't willing to debate anyone, even for 50K.

[@Krapvag]

it really is the easiest win in the world for Zak to see his fun loving happy go lucky pup skip along while Haz's shepherd cowers in fear nervously glancing upwards reluctantly awaiting the next demand. Think of how much reputational damage this would do to the barbarian dog trainers out there

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

@ I'm not saying I like Haz, but seriously, Zak is a coward not to take the 50k and do the debate.

[@taramcfadden7076]

@Dhejdjskd Haz is just a normal dude. They just seem alpha because there are so many sub-par men now. We taught them being sub-par is okay. It's not.

[@donna6618]

​@@aussieoutbackfarm - spot on... Zak George is a cowardly Chicken, who doesn't even have faith in his own preaching or dog training ability. He has just become the laughing stock, of the dog training world. He has no guts - to put his money, where his mouth is....

[@nsh1772]

Dog training is so divided, like America. Why can't balanced and Positive trainers realize that they both do what they do because of their love for dogs, and start a conversation, without tearing each others apart?

[@zakgeorge]

Because compassion and control are not compatible.

[@JaguarDaBandog]

Zak do you have any videos with lots of distractions like other dogs, people, cats birds etc? Also can you post a video with a dog off leash in a busy environment?

[@Velcro1997]

Of course not. He is absolutely ridiculous and very threatened. I would be too if I was a dog trainer that couldn’t show results. This video is fucking hilarious.

[@JaguarDaBandog]

@Velcro1997 He looks like he has good rapport with his dogs so should be easy for him to do. He also has lots of experience

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

@ 100%. Zak is a scammer, a joke. Read our back and forth comments. Zak is trying to use insane unlogical logic on me, a balanced dog trainer who actually gets results, and cares about the wellbeing of dogs. I get what you mean how the video is hilarious, however it is also dangerous to those who don't know better and believe his propaganda. People will see this video and then refuse proper, balanced help to dogs on death row that could have been easily saved by the guidance of a proper, balanced dog trainer. Zak is plain dangerous.

[@Felix-jo7nj]

He does i believe, but please check out doggy-u ! shes a trick dog trainer and service dog trainer who has some videos on that!

[@Felix-jo7nj]

@@aussieoutbackfarmZak isn't a scammer? also based on the way you say "a balanced dog trainer who cares about results" you don't sound like a trainer who actually cares about the well being of dogs. if you did you'd at very least be a LIMA trainer - balanced trainers do not consider going down a list of solutions before they reach for harsher ones that are invasive or aversive. What Zak shows isn't propaganda, it's based off of science. if you think science is dangerous i am sorry for you. If you think balanced is the only way to ever get a good trained dog I am sorry for you. The idea that we can train with minimal force and minimal fear, discomfort, or pain should not be controversial at all - nor should it be controversial that people don't want to use those tools or methods. Force free doesn't mean we never give the dog consequences and we never do something like removing what the dog likes or pulling on the leash - it means we focus primarily on managing things and teaching skills so that we don't HAVE to get there, and if we must use a consequence we opt for what is least aversive in that moment (turning away when being jumped on, dragging dog out of dangerous road, etc). I don't understand why balanced trainers feel so threatened by the idea we can be kind first and that punishing a dog has higher risks than rewards. I don't get why balanced trainers feel so upset about rewarding dogs so they have a motivator that isn't fear. Why they feel so upset about half of what they are. IF you think Zak is a joke why are you on his channel?

[@supremacy2040]

I have to say, I hate this higher than thou take. “I know better don’t I ladies…” why can’t you just be. If your methods are good, this “me v alpha bro” mentality only makes me wonder if you’re confident enough? If your job is to beat down other trainers then ok, but if it’s to showcase your methods over the dog daddies of the world it’s much better to show than talk.

[@Doggies363]

and yet your name is supremacy??

[@supremacy2040]

@ that’s what you took from that? What’s that got to do with what I said? Seriously lame man

[@Erin_29]

​@@supremacy2040this guy works for Zak.😅😂

[@homeshows]

Very good points that likely goes over alpha bros heads as they immediately go to what about this or that in order to defend their practices snd behaviors.

[@ttthaiss]

Well the main what about is pretty reasonable - "what about when your dog does not have a leash on, and you are in a busy environment in close quarters with other people and animals?" Its like getting a kid to eat veggies. You got a kid that eats veggies... GREAT. Now, put a cookie and veggie in front of the kid - can you get most kids to chose the veggie every time - if there is no downside (correction) whatsoever for choosing the cookie? Can you dogs who love barking and chasing other dogs/cars/people to not do that on a busy street - with no leash, and with never having been corrected for disobeying? And then on top of that, I really think critics are assuming that e collar and prong corrections are a lot more painful and torturous than they actually are. In reality a good trainer adjust the correction to the level of the dog - just strong enough that the dog thinks " I prefer to obey rather than be corrected" and that bounces back from the correction immediately - without being upset, hurt, anxious, or fearful. Correcting my dog makes he stop doing the behaviour i am correcting, followed by him continuing to have the great fun day he has been having. Not trying to argue... But just make sure you are not vehemently against something that LOOKS TERRIBLE - but that in reality upon more inspection you might realize is actually an appropriate fair and healthy way to handle your dog. Of course there are bad trainers who traumatize dogs with corrections - don't use those cases to justify your criticism of ALL trainers who use corrections. Have a great day

[@themontu7066]

This feels like it was targeted at a specific, well known dog trainer with his own show, and I’m absolutely here for it. Our pets are family and they deserve to be treated with respect, not being forced to live their lives in fear. Thank you for this.

[@Erin_29]

None of the dogs that this trainer you speak of live in fear.😅but you can believe what you will.

[@gilleslapedale0]

Haz dog looks a million times more happy to work with him than Zak with his dog

[@Erin_29]

@@gilleslapedale0 Gage is 🔥 the definition of an amazing dog

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

If Zak spent more time saving dogs on deaths row, people would start following his methods, and stop looking up to balanced trainers for guidance. Why won't he do it? My guess it that he simply can't.

[@zakgeorge]

Tell me what you’re really defending.

[@Zack._.7]

​@@zakgeorgewhat? maybe show us then instead of jsut giving shitty ass responses like taht was wtf

[@ApocalypticK9Art]

You're absolutely correct here. I'd have no problem with Zak if he wasn't constantly bashing balanced trainers and just admitted that his techniques work for giving puppies and dogs with a sound temperament basic training but they're totally ineffective on dogs with severe behavioral issues.

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

@ApocalypticK9Art 100%. There are other purely positive trainers that although I don't agree with everything they say and do, they speak their mind, but state facts and not just bash others. I respect those people, hugely. How I wish I could say the same about Zak.

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

@ I am defending dogs on death row. Is that a problem?

[@Mwyse414]

I think it’s a perfectly valid reason to train force free if the dogs are happier and more confident even if the obedience isn’t as good and you can’t take them off leash in public settings. There are definitely more important things. Who cares if you have amazing obedience if the dog suffers… Instead this is what we should challenge. Have a bunch of trainers from both sides that go to local shelters and take on training a similar dog for a fixed amount of time. Then everyone meets at a large enclosed area to see what they can do with their dogs, and how they respond when given total freedom. Give each dog 15 minutes of total freedom. See how they behave with no intervention. Then invite them to do some training with a toy or with food. Do they want to interact with the trainer or just blow them off for freedom? Are the dogs fearful of the owners? Do they look fearful when you ask for an obedience command? What happens if you leave something in the yard and tell them leave it alone. Do they listen but cower in fear? If you see that every dog on the force free side looks dramatically better than the other side, 100% force free is on to something. Maybe there are a couple stand out trainers. This is who we should seek guidance from. It would be good to have some healthy competition and confirm that dogs trained force free are happier! Should be an easy task given the claims. Live video doesn’t lie especially shown for a duration of time

[@Agudmunsen]

Wait, you think that if a dog doesn’t go off lead it would genuinely be happier and more confident? Have you even owned a dog? That’s a crazy thing to say.

[@Mwyse414]

@ I don’t think I said that. I believe that freedom is crucial to having a happy dog. I just think it would be interesting to see the dogs behaviors when they are given free will to do as they please. Will the force free dogs want to do things with their owners or will the balanced side see dogs that see more value in interacting with their owners. All these debates are all about an obedience competition but why doesn’t the force free side step and just show happier dogs. That is really their claim. If they truly had happier dogs it is a legitimate reason to train force free. It should be easy to prove by just showing the dogs

[@alexsarbu3978]

A lot of people here should think about participating in the Jackass TV show, since they love answering challenges.

[@colincline7641]

I can see how safe they feel. Love is the answer.

[@darialois1]

Well done Zak Perfectly explained

[@rep-airheatingandcoolingin2494]

I’m guessing this is targeted towards a certain trainer I follow. Show me one of the dogs he trains that are scared for their life and not happy to work. Then also show me any of your dogs walking down the busy street without your collar and leash on ( which is a restraint and a negative reinforcer). If your purely positive you would take the collar off your dogs neck and stop restraining them from the world and put your training to the test. And you would make an easy 50k by doing just that… but let’s be honest the only thing you’ll be doing is making videos calling everyone who has common sense “alpha males” lol which is too funny.

[@Doggies363]

Yes, breaking the leash laws is a real alpha bro move. Childish challenges? Zak is upsetting you by ignoring you.

[@rep-airheatingandcoolingin2494]

@@Doggies363lol breaking leash laws is an alpha move? I’m sure you drive the exact speed limit and never over, and have never broke any other laws before right? Does that make you alpha then?

[@Doggies363]

@ sorry that I’ve hit a nerve

[@marciacohn]

Cudos to you Zack‼️‼️‼️

[@shanniwelsh133]

Thank you for this!

[@zakgeorge]

You are most welcome!

[@jamesw9223]

Yo, im here for the internet drama

[@beasport505]

Excellent video Zac

[@TooManyIssues88]

Still waiting for you to bring in a highly reactive/aggressive dog needing rehabilitation, and show us how you handle things step by step. Easy going, highly intelligent breeds are easy. ❤

[@alexandradittmann8588]

Lol, come on! Before Wallace and Shade, you guys have been insisting Zak "finally" try his art on a Cane Corso or a Malinois. Now that he has - and with great success - he needs to find yet MORE difficult dogs?

[@darialois1]

@@TooManyIssues88 there are many videos of Zak working with reactive to dogs if you search you will find many.

[@TooManyIssues88]

@alexandradittmann8588 Yes, but he's still gone on temperament. None of them have been 'difficult' dogs. Pretty standard dog training. He goes on a lot about these other trainers but the dogs they handle are on a different scale entirely. I'm genuinely interested to see George's methods when rehabilitating a dog that is truly 'difficult'/reactive.

[@zakgeorge]

The thing is, I don’t view dogs as difficult. I get to know the individual and prioritize keeping them under threshold and non-aggressive in the first place. I know how to not provoke them in other words so that we can address underlying causes ethically.

[@suefrompa2567]

​@alexandradittmann8588 Shade? The Cane Corso puppy from a year ago? That he is still posting "puppy" videos of - and when he is asked for more recent vids ( as the pup should be full size now) he either ignores or says Shade is doing great. No vids of results of his training, etc. Why not plan a visit with Shade's owners, Zak? Or show a video from them of how 'great' he is doing now that he is full size! Then maybe people will be more willing to believe you 🙄

[@musiconly9100]

Zack, can you walk side to side with an alpha male to see the difference in training? With no video editing from both ends. I know one of them offered 50k in cash. I know you don't need the money, but you can donate it to charity.

[@Ironandpullups34-ICXCNIKA]

It would be the easiest 50k for Zak. That alpha man has no chance. I know those secluded fields and side walks really help in training.

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

@ why doesn't Zak do the debate then if he thinks he can win anyway? The truth is, Zak knows that he has nothing to stand on.

[@morganjulio4099]

He won’t put his money where his mouth is, he’s scared he’d loose control of his dog otherwise he’d just take that 50K win and call it a day

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

@@morganjulio4099 100%. Zak is a coward, sorry to say, but it's true.

[@Felix-jo7nj]

@@aussieoutbackfarmHe does? but people won't listen. why are all of you all over his page if you don't like him it does not make sense.

[@trundle_the_tortoise]

2:11 you even dont have his attention with a f**king frisbee under your arm 😂

[@darialois1]

I really wish some of the trainers out there would try to take on board a more positive approach in their training. It is really about educating yourself in a new approach to dog training and finding the correct trainers to learn from. People are to easily brain washed into certain distasteful training techniques just because they haven’t found the right path of their educational journey.

[@ApocalypticK9Art]

90% of balanced dog training is positive. Corrections and punishments from tools are mostly to refine what has been taught with primarily positive reinforcement or to fix severe behavior problems. And most people who use e-collars aren't out there frying their dogs for not recalling - most of the time just a vibration is used to get the dogs attention as a correction instead of a shock. By using balanced methods, you'll end up with a dog who can listen intently around distractions and have a super solid temperament. You can think whatever you want about different methods of dog training, but sometimes you've just gotta look at the dog! Dogs belonging to balanced trainers like STSK9, American Standard K9 and Shield K9 are extremely enthusiastic and clearly trust their handlers. E-collars can be misused in a way in which they are indeed abusive and cause a dog stress and pain, but when used correctly, they are great tools. I don't believe that one approach to dog training will fit every dog, but just because a method isn't necessarily what you'd use on your dog, doesn't mean it's bad!

[@donna6618]

Exactly AND Zak George is one "supposed" dog trainer, no one, should be following. He is a danger to dogs and to the dog training community, as a whole.

[@donna6618]

​@ApocalypticK9Art - 100% perfect response

[@SuperJ3n5]

Bruh. Im hella alpha walking my dog while dispensing treats and praising her in a silly voice. When you see a man not afraid to look stupid while training you better watch out. That mans not afraid of anything 💪💪

[@donna6618]

😂😂😂 well, if you are using the teems "man" & "training dogs" in the one sentence - then I know for sure, that you are not referring to Zak George, for he is neither. 🙄

[@JenDoodle]

I just have to say something, because you're equating all tool use to DV tendencies (btw you should probably stop using a leash to force your dog to stay close by, they should just freely choose to be near you). A woman who experienced DV posted her criticism of this even though she doesn't really use tools and your response was to invalidate their experience and insight into the topic. I'm a woman who has not experienced DV, but I have been SAd multiple times including by a man with Narcissitic Personality Disorder and it took me a long time to heal from those experiences. I've also used tools to help guide my dog into making better decisions, which were then phased out at an appropriate time in our training. To equate DV to tool use in dog training is not ok and this is part of the problem. So no, if someone is using a tool to aid in training it does not automatically mean they have a tendency toward DV. This topic is much more nuanced then you're willing to open yourself up to.

[@Erin_29]

Preach!!

[@taramcfadden7076]

I know you "don't want to associate with a fear trainer" or whatever you call Haz Othman, but you should do it just once. Shut this argument down forever. Both sides are very curious to see the results. Walk away with $50k (or give it to me if you don't want it lol) You don't even have to beat Haz, just match him. He said so himself. Do it 1 time to prove a point then never again. I will throw out my e-collar, my prong collar, Haz's book, and unsubscribe from his youtube and instagram channels if you do this and at least match his skill. I will promote you instead of him. Just one time. Just this once. Then when you say "You won't associate with fear trainers or alpha bros" it doesn't sound like a scared excuse.

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

100%. Zak is a coward. He knows he doesn't have a thing to stand on.

[@gilleslapedale0]

Zak won't do it because Haz would literally destroy Zak's credibility

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

@@gilleslapedale0 100%

[@suefrompa2567]

​@@gilleslapedale0 Credibility? 😂

[@youngchuchu08]

Thank you ❤❤❤

[@JenKirby]

Practicing communicating gently with dogs has added extra advantages. By making my mind quiet and speaking softly, I can get bees to do what I want. If a bee is buzzing round the kitchen I can just nod softly towards the door to the garden and they go straight out.

[@Zack._.7]

Is bees your dogs name or are you tlaking abt actual bees cause if why do you keep bees like dogs-

[@JenKirby]

@ Real bees buzzing in the air and at the window (which I don’t want to open in case the cat jumps out).

[@JenKirby]

My dog is called Marzieh and she goes out just because she likes it (as long as it’s not raining).

[@Foghorn-gd9tn]

😂 take up Haz’s challenge in New York then, see how your dog goes.

[@Velcro1997]

He’s too scared.

[@LetzGoAntiSpe]

you always with your stupid challenges. What are you trying to prove? Seriously... like little boys on the playground

[@Erin_29]

​@@Dhejdjskdmean comment. Some people have actual health issues that make it hard to grow hair.

[@Austinlorentzan5499]

So you're telling me every balanced trainer on earth is doing it because they like to feel masculine? Not to mention that you demonise balanced training and act as if its 100% corrections/positive punishment. Alot of these studies you hide behind are based off of surveys and are extremely biased. Theres a reason that these studies are made by vetinary behaviourists, its because they know they can charge you a fortune to put your dog on meds. Also someone who has a sponsor on every video and only trains 5 dogs a year (You) are more likely to promote this softly softly approach because you can make more money selling treats and toys in a monthly subscription compared to balanced trainers who might recommend a specific lead. And to top all of that, there is no scientific consensus on dog training anyway, watch ivan balabanovs video on it if you arent convinced. Unlike zak he actually shows the science hes referring to.

[@Ironandpullups34-ICXCNIKA]

Why wouldn’t you want to associate with Haz Othman? Show us how positive only is better than balanced. You could at least debate him or take up his challenge and show your training methods off leash in a busy city. If you beat him I will also throw away all e collar, prongs, and delete my online training with shield K9. I feel sorry for the people who have no idea that you spout propaganda and try to appeal to their feelings and politics.

[@shimura9940]

Thank you! 💝

[@beasport505]

The other problem is dog training is not regulated. So anyone can call themselves a dog trainer

[@DisforDogs1]

True. In Europe there is a list of certified behaviourists and trainers. In the Netherlands for example you have to do internship along with an approved education with certain standards, and only then you get an official registration. So people can look on that list to find an actual trainer / behaviourist with a proper education and work experience. Should be like that everywhere.

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

such as Zak, who bashes balanced dog trainers for having no certifications, yet Zak himself has ZERO. Zak is a hypocrite.

[@DisforDogs1]

@@aussieoutbackfarm Zak isnt from Europe 😉 He is from the UK en the UK isnt europe. I'm not a fan of him as well, but thats not the point. What has he to do with EU certifications and this topic? Nothing. Why bring him up? Doesnt make sense at all.

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

@@DisforDogs1 I'm saying in other videos, he bashes other dog trainers for not having certifications, yet he has none himself. Not that self-taught is an issue, but it just goes to show that Zak is a hypocrite.

[@DisforDogs1]

@@aussieoutbackfarm I dont know, I should look that up to verivy. But claiming and actually having is of course a huge difference, I dont know about UK certificates. But the point was, in Europe we have such lists and the people get evaluated after education, not once but every X period (not very long) as well to stay on the list. We are expected to keep up to date and keep learning about the newest research which isnt a bad thing. Never go blind because science isnt always right, but its very important to keep up, have conversations with other trainers and keep your own experience in mind snd your own logic. That combined is the most chance of succes and safety.

[@morganjulio4099]

Also you’re working a puppy, show me a mature, dominant make in a high drive state, I’ll wait

[@Doggies363]

Show me your one brain cell. I’m not going to wait.

[@ttv_Simply_Soph]

Ohhh the social commentary *chef's kiss*

[@Escandella118]

Good video, but I had to put it on mute after the first minute 😅 Literally every balanced trainer I know, including me, would train a dog the same way you did here for the environments and situations you show here. You have a highly trainable young dog therefore there is no reason to train differently. No respectable dog trainer, balanced or otherwise would force anything on the dog you have here. FF training can go a long way with a trainable dog and normal day to day situations. That's the perfect way and the way balanced dog trainers I know would choose. 💜

[@janhankins911]

Bravo, Zak!!! Thank you for posting this and stating it so eloquently and so well.

[@MissSophiePainting]

LOVE THIS VIDEO❤

[@doomgrave1]

Your dog definitely looks calm and relaxed, the other guys dogs look like they have learned helplessness.

[@gilleslapedale0]

Go watch again, his dogs are super excited to work with him, no where do you see helplessness

[@trundle_the_tortoise]

😂😂😂😂 1:32 so this Looks calm and relaxed to you?

[@doomgrave1]

@@trundle_the_tortoise yes lol

[@doomgrave1]

@@gilleslapedale0 it's easy to get a dog motivated to obey when the consequence of disobedience is getting zapped. I learned from sk9. But I also appreciate a trainer that not only prioritizes positive reinforcement, but doesn't use punishment at all.

[@gilleslapedale0]

@doomgrave1 first of all, just like anything else, it's called being accountable for your behavior (something too many humans don't want to be). I don't punish my dog, I put pressure when she doesn't respond correctly to the requested behavior. Again, I would love to see how bad Zak would fail only a IGP-1 competition.

[@camdecorations9779]

Zac George, why don't you take the $50000 dollar bet with haz to see which training methods are better. No collar no lead just 30 mins walking through Newyork to see which methid is the best. Take up the challenge. If you wi, you can donate the money to a dog shelter or keep it . Take the challenge, man, and prove your technique

[@Doggies363]

You are like a kiddie in a playground

[@kristencesario3847]

I came from a family that owned only owned retrievers. My parents always blamed the dog when he didn’t listen but never asked why. Later I had a situation where a “problem” husky fell into my lap as my first dog. When dog trainers didn’t work I found Zak George. 6 years later now the best behaved dog in my family and looks to me for guidance when unsure. I decided that if I wanted her to respect me I needed to teach her respect by showing it. All the people who told me that she was a lost cause now ask how I did it. All dogs at their core want to be good it’s just a matter of communication, trust and effort on our part.

[@antjebracke]

What a joy looking at you both together

[@trundle_the_tortoise]

1:34 damn that Dog Looks really confident and happy...😂😂😂 I think that must be one of those tough shepherds Type dogs, which dont show any suppression when they got abused 😂

[@ascensive8937]

Ladies and gentlemen i present to you dog training for children.

[@Doggies363]

Yes it’s great to have a science backed method that is also child friendly. Yey for inclusive training 😊

[@samshatto3671]

Letting my dog play before training sessions was a game changer. I lived by your videos when starting to train my service dog and still do.

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

0:07 in the video. What was that? It was a correction. A necessary and in my opinion a bit too harsh correction that Zak tried to hide. ZAK IS NOT A ZERO-CORRECTION TRAINER.

[@zakgeorge]

No that is a dog running to the end of a leash_that the leash is a safety net not a tool that we used to communicate with dogs.

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

@@zakgeorge Exactly. The dog hit the end of the leash. That itself is a firm correction that teaches the dog not to hit the end of the leash. As a trainer myself, when I give a "leash correction", that is almost always what it is. The dog hits the end of the leash, comes back and then I reward it. You, Zak, are a balanced dog trainer. The proof is in the first 7 seconds of your video. I guess you are now wishing you had edited out that part out. Thank you for keeping it in. Furthermore, in my training, I am always very careful to make sure dogs do not hit the end of the leash too harshly, unlike you.

[@zakgeorge]

@ Hitting the end of the leash isn’t a ‘correction’, it’s just a consequence of movement. A correction requires intent, meaning the handler deliberately applies leash pressure to decrease a behavior. In this case, Wallace reached the end of the leash on his own. I didn’t pop the leash, apply pressure, or manipulate him in any way. If a dog walks into a glass door, did the door ‘correct’ them? No, it was just a physical boundary. The difference between force-based training and modern training is that I don’t need to use the leash as a punishment tool. Wallace learns through reinforcement and management, not through being physically corrected.

[@Erin_29]

gentle parenting type of "training"

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

@@zakgeorge Who ever said that a correction requires intent from the handler? The actual definition of a correction is: "a change that rectifies an error or inaccuracy". Using your logic about a dog walking into a glass door, then yes, the door did correct the dog. Passing a physical boundary and getting stopped by it is a correction, in fact it is one of the most natural types of corrections. For some reason, you think that a balanced dog trainer giving a correction, has to involve the trainer doing something to bring that correction upon the dog. Well you're wrong. I personally, am a balanced dog trainer myself, and I can assure you that Wallace hitting the end of the leash was what I would call a strong correction, in fact a lot stronger than I would normally use and advocate for. As I have previously explained, a lot of times with reactive dogs that haven't been socialised much, I will have the dog on a leash and let it hit the end of the leash by itself (NOT me popping the leash), then the dog comes back and get rewarded. If you say a "purely positive" dog trainer can let the dog hit the end of the leash and still call themselves a "purely positive" trainer, then I must be able to call myself an "almost-always purely positive" trainer, as I hardly ever apply pressure to the leash.

[@TheDogfighter13]

Okie.... explain to me (as a i am a balanced trainers and do use e collars) why do i put it around my neck and give the remote to my clients to teach them how to use it... It's easy for us to do it , it's our job... i've been a positive only trainer, and then i've met people -> no time , no effort ,no will to understand , just wanting me to fix it (for those owners ofcourse e collars are banned by me!) , i don't believe in dominance over dogs and true dominance between dogs is rare . Tell me where am i wrong , when my dogs(dogs that i have trained) are just as happy and never abused , and actually leading lives they never could before i went balanced training ... I'm a result driven guy , if you have something that is truelly special, short of use 8 hours a day doing training and having a malinoix x, that's already tired and pretty low drive for the breed ,that functions on video , how do you do that in an hour a day and better yet how do owners learn to do it?(which is the main reason i went balanced ... i can do it , owners can't) this is not a snub (although i do resent a bit being lumped in with alpha trainers though ), i really want to know .... but all i see is that we beat or shock the dogs into submision while 98% of the time we do the same thing P.S. Once again , i do understand that there are monsters that just abuse dogs , especially where i live , where the first thing is they put a choke collar and start yanking... and i agree with you , but thats not all of us... and it's kind of insulting to be honest , because i've heard a strawman arguments about force free as well and don't buy it , the same way i don't buy your words unless you can clearly answer my questions above

[@julieotter712]

I was once married to a man who was violent towards me and our dogs.So I hear you Zak. Thank you.

[@peterschmidt7409]

What's this? Real life challenges with a single dog on an empty space? Are you serious? That's the first week of training a puppy, what you show here. Off the leash and on the streets with him, that would be appropiate for a dog this age. A ready traind force free dog doing this is about as camera shy as bigfoot, it seems. No edits, you said, right before the first edit. I don't know, dear followers of this waste of good food, can't you see this guy is a complete fraud?

[@Doggies363]

Erm it’s a compilation of vids you tit 😂

[@HLCC303]

Why so many cuts in the video, no off leash?? “Lead laws” go somewhere where your allowed to be off lead then. Where’s the other dogs? Comon bud you can’t fool the real ones. This is not even close to real world training. What a joke of a person and a trainer. Take the offer. Then you might get some sort of respect. Not just clouding it by rainbow world bs

[@NiW-l8i]

I'm pro positive reinforcement, and I've been training my puppy using your tips and techniques with great results. So a big thank you!!! I'm 99% on board with you. I would love to see you working with a hunting dog someday, like a GSP, and show us how reliable an intact teenage off-leash hunting dog can be with only positive reinforcement training method. Especially when encountering dangerous wildlife unexpectedly (bear, porcupine, coyote, moose, a fox or hare suddenly dashing out, etc). Then I will be 100% on board with you and throw my $1200 e-collar in the trash. This is not sarcastic. I'm very sincere, and once again, thank you for your work.

[@zakgeorge]

I have many videos with working dogs dealing with wildlife distractions. Don’t let me be your only source for being on board. Do your own independent research to understand the issue👍👍

[@kaizermartey]

​@@zakgeorge I believe there's a 50.000 dollar challenge offered to you by another well known trainer but instead of accepting or declining, you just went for ad hominim

[@kaizermartey]

*ad hominem

[@NiW-l8i]

@@zakgeorge thanks for the reply. I just watched many of your wilderness videos. Not exactly what i had in mind but appreciate the effort, and I still learned something useful so thanks again. I’m still keeping my e-collar for now. It’s like until compostable bags are reliable enough, plastic bags are here to stay, unfortunately. When I see my dog is half a mile from me and barking on the GPS device, I need to be able to push a button to call him back. And my dog is not even a hound who works a lot further from human. My e collar is designed to track and communicate with dogs from 9 miles away. Many hunters have multiple dogs running and hunting at full speed while the hunter following them from a vehicle. I’m sure you know more about this than I do. We don’t like cars and planes running on fossil fuels, but in order to render them obsolete, there needs to be more innovation and development.

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

@ The e collar, when used properly, is a life-saving tool, and not a punishment.

[@doomgrave1]

Alpha bros have typos on the spine of their dog training books 😂. Your book on the other hand, was well written.

[@Erin_29]

Oh brother. I know who you speak of. He's an excellent trainer.

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

@ who is the trainer that has a typo on the book? I'm genuinely interested.

[@Erin_29]

@@aussieoutbackfarm Shield Canine.

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

@@Erin_29 okay. Haven't seen much of him. Will have a look. Thanks. Do you like him?

[@Erin_29]

@@aussieoutbackfarm np. Yes, I've got his typo book, and love it. It's been super helpful.

[@Kelly_Ben]

Well, this got you a new subscriber. Perfect message.

[@gatorgirlashes]

I learned how to properly teach dogs with care and kindness from your videos, and my relationship with my german shep has never been stronger. Thank you!!

[@zakgeorge]

I am glad I could help! 😊

[@joshymana6411]

I'm not so sure man. You are using a leash which is a tool of force.

[@Erin_29]

Exactly 😅😂

[@StahlwindGSD]

if you think you are any good, take up haz othman's $50k challenge.

[@Felix-jo7nj]

dude i don't get why balanced trainers hate the science-based training community so much but always swarm pages of anyone on the science-based training spectrum. can't get away from them for five seconds. sorry if you feel comfortable jumping to discomfort of dogs before you do anything else, sorry if you can lie to yourself and lie that something doesn't work exactly because it's uncomfortable or hurting. i'd like to see some of these people train a cat, chicken, or zoo animal. jason galaxy handles severe cat aggression cases with science based training. victoria stillwell went from balanced to science based training. those two have successes with what they do and they've taken on aggressive cases. i don't get why zak has to prove everything ever as if other persons haven't and there aren't plenty of balanced trainer shams that haven't either. zoo/aquarium animals learn cooperative care and cooperative working with science based training. what is so hard to grasp about it? is it because dogs specifically are a species we can bully without regrets if it makes us comfortable but if we were to try this with a cat, chicken, or zoo creature they would attack us? just because you supposedly saved a dog from deathrow doesn't magically mean everything about how you did it was right or that there weren't other solutions considered - and you neglect the fact that euthanasia can be kinder. just because some people don't use their tools right doesn't mean when you do it's better. if you cared about dogs you'd focus on science based training and focus on LIMA (and there are plenty of lima trainers who don't use tools before someone comes at me, but they allow clients to use them until they can work off of it - allowing for space for people to transition slowly) first and foremost. rewards wouldn't be shunned, dogs would be fed regardless of what they're doing today. not only that if you cared about dogs you'd pay attention to the stress signals, you'd try medication and other options for certain issues, you wouldn't have a prong or e-collar on the dog at the same time (or deny that shocks shock and being like a TENS machine doesnt make it better, people find that painful too.) you'd also be aware that those are not infinite failsafes and if your dog is as well trained as you claim would not need those.

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

I AM A BALANCED DOG TRAINER. I NEVER USE FORCE TO MAKE THE DOG WANT TO STOP A BEHAVIOUR. WHY DO YOU PUT ALL DOG TRAINERS THAT USE CORRECTIONS IN THE SAME CATAGORY

[@zakgeorge]

Physical corrections are force.

[@Erin_29]

​@@zakgeorgeyour dog wearing a harness is physically correcting itself everytime he pulls and gets to the end of its leash 😅

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

@ 100% Erin. See my other comments replying to his crazily unlogical logic.

[@jessiecheval4827]

​@@Erin_29 exactly, "physically correcting ITSELF"!! Understand the difference between that, and a HANDLER using intentional brute force or pain. No force is coming from Zac here.

[@Krapvag]

@@zakgeorge WHAT IS A LEASH?

[@morganjulio4099]

But I didn’t see you take that 50K challenge from Haz tho

[@Doggies363]

No you didn’t and aren’t you just as frustrated as heck! 😂 Well done Zak, it’s driving them mad.

[@HollyOly]

We knew a dog like Wallace once, who was a very obedient dog for her “alpha dog” owner who taught her that problems are solved with strength, fear, and violence. It was only natural that when my 4mo puppy poked his nose through the doorway, her response to this novelty was to attack him.

[@Krapvag]

the amount of positive only trainers that have all these stories about how fear and violence is terrorising dogs because of all these alpha dog owners, and yet over 90% of dogs I come across are completely untrained flying around harrassing other dogs, wildlife, pulling their owners to the ground

[@gotmilkgotjuice]

You should hit up shield k9 and take up that challenge for 50k...you talk a lot but you can't sit there and hide when your called out buddy.

[@Doggies363]

He sure can frustrate the heck out of you chest beaters tho when he doesn’t take your commands 😂

[@havtic]

This guy has really spent days making fake accounts to comment fake stuff 🤣 he’s going crazy

[@margaretfleming3554]

Brilliant.

[@michemynx]

Heard Zak George got offered a $50k challenge to walk his dog through NYC for a 1/2h against a balanced trainers IGP dog and hasn’t taken him up on it? I’ll donate my mentally sound, competition experienced but easily distracted catahoula dog he can train specifically for the comp….

[@LetzGoAntiSpe]

I would not do it either if i was Zak because thats nothing but a stupid childish dick-measuring contest.

[@Doggies363]

Zak’s won! He’s got all you bros beating their chests. I’m wondering how long you can all cry before you slither away defeated 😂

[@RacquelHamilton-o5o]

@@Doggies363 What the heck are you on about ? Is Zak having his own private stupid childish dick measuring contest that nobody else knows about???And he thinks he's won? He's more F----ed up than I thought!!!!

[@michemynx]

@@Doggies363 positive only training would have had my dog destroyed... I'm more than ecstatic to report that instead she's a titled obedience and agility dog...

[@kyle1798]

Easy to hand pick a dog and "prove" your point. Different things work for different people and different dogs. You're a great trainer, no doubt, but take up the NYC challenge if you're so sure. You wanna call people out but then you only interact with comments that support you, It's the same behavior you oppose on the opposite side of the spectrum.

[@jd-iw2et]

Yep! 💙💙💙

[@Ironandpullups34-ICXCNIKA]

It’s definitely about results. Long winded excuse. We want to see your dog vs Haz. Should be an easy 50k for you.

[@zakgeorge]

One of the points in this video should be obvious. I would never consider associating with anyone promoting methods that are harmful to dog welfare. This is in some game or competition, this is about the treatment of dogs in our custody.

[@taramcfadden7076]

​@zakgeorge Yeah that's what I'd say too if I knew my dog would fall apart in a new environment off leash with no food rewards.

[@Ironandpullups34-ICXCNIKA]

@@zakgeorgeLOL!!! typical excuse because you know you’d lose. Keep training in a secluded field and side walk.

[@Ironandpullups34-ICXCNIKA]

@@taramcfadden7076haha exactly he knows his dog will fall apart.

[@christicostas5825]

I love this because i want my puppos head filled with nothing but good/happy memories - not fear. This video is helpful because so many people out there in videos are arguing over training methods right now its crazy and confusing when you have ppl telling you, "you need a newspaper or whatever other things that make my gut instincts scream." It makes me question myself constantly and I hate it.

[@zakgeorge]

It is confusing, but the science is there, and your gut is right! 😊

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

I am a balanced dog trainer. Please know that I would NEVER use a newspaper to hit a dog. Nor would I ever accept someone doing it in front of me. Sadly, a lot of people think that balanced dog trainers are cruel, uncaring people. Well you're wrong, at least about me.

[@christicostas5825]

@@aussieoutbackfarm I truly didn't mean that against you - that has actually come from ppl in my immediate life that aren't dog trainers and go by the old methods of handling it themselves 😔 and I refuse. I get advice from trainers and ppl like my husband or friends etc. the part from the trainers I get is a lot of mixed info saying that I should do this or that and then another trainer disagrees and says no don't this way so it's all very difficult and comes down to a personal decision bottom line for everyone seeking help from professional trainers. There are so many different things being said - it seems like trainer wars going on 😔. I sincerely apologize for coming off sounding like I was implying you or any other trainer has told me I should use a newspaper. I should have clarified that better.

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

@@christicostas5825 Thank you for clarifying. I'm glad :)

[@jmonheim]

Will you run for president??

[@trumpetpunk42]

No one decent would....

[@zakgeorge]

I care too much about liberation for all people to actually win. We live in a country that prioritizes itself over others

[@Here4TheHeckOfIt]

​@@zakgeorge Yup. It's an unfortunate reality. I wish the people with that "me" attitude will see themselves one day. They would be horrified.

[@jmonheim]

@@zakgeorge unfortunately I think you’re right 😢 keep fighting the good fight - love your work💪🏻

[@LimitlessJayson]

so you're taking the 50k offer?

[@zakgeorge]

I don’t professionally associate with trainers who promote violence towards animals in the name of training.

[@Erin_29]

​@@zakgeorgethen stop egging people on. Stay in your lane.

[@LimitlessJayson]

@ Maybe you should actually have a talk with one of these trainers in a 1 to 1 conversation, privately, and actually come from a place of understanding. You seem to only want to spread your opinion & never care to listen to what anybody else has to say about it, despite them having the results & being able to prove their dogs mental health is fine.

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

@ If you really want to stop balanced dog trainers, then debate them live. But you won't, because you know you can't.

[@LetzGoAntiSpe]

Well said. Great video as always! Thank you Zak for speaking out. The parallels of harmful agressive dog training and alpha "bros" is visible and obvious. The dudes misstreating dogs are most of the time horrible men and sometimes women.

[@yolo-lz2qv]

Whoa, my man Zack is just saying it out loud now. I've definitely noticed a big difference with my dog and her interest, willingness, and desire to understand and listen to me when I started focusing on our relationship, and setting her (and myself) up for success. I say that sitting on my couch with her snoozing beside me, butt on my leg, after an off leash walk where she displayed near perfect recall. No dominating, losing control, yelling, or any type of fear based training required. I didn't even need treats. And what a pleasure it is to see her express her little doggy personality freely.

[@MrMitchconstantine]

Doesn't say how to train the damn dog. Mostly hot air. In the meanwhile working dogs and competition dogs continue to be trained using balanced training. Which is mostly positive training, with some corrections thrown in (I've seen ratios of reward to correction anywhere between 10:1 to 3:1. Balanced trainers are not monsters).

[@Zack._.7]

Hows shade. And also ontop of that that dog didnt look confident at all could very easily be because you took him out into a stressful inviroment before he was ready? Doenst sound so positive/forcefree only now does it?

[@BevSpar]

Do you ever work with chihuahuas?

[@zakgeorge]

Yes!

[@BevSpar]

@ I want him to warm me when a stranger comes to my door but how do I train him to stop barking?? I have panic attacks & he helps me through crowds but he’s protective of my house.

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

@@BevSpar unfortunately Zak probably won't answer your question because he knows he can't help. Zak's stuff may sound all good, but he NEVER works with actually extremely fear aggressive dogs. He never works with dogs that are about to be put down if their behaviour can't be helped. Zak is all talk no do. He goes on and on bashing trainers for not having university certificates in dog behaviour, yet he doesn't have any himself. He also loves using fancy words to describe a very simple thing, causing people to think he is such an expert, but I can see right through that. He is very strong speaking out against Dog Daddy, which I mostly agree with him doing, howeer when DD offered many times to give Zak thousands of dollars to have a debate, Zak won't do it. DD and Zak are both as bad as each other, just in different ways. Bash me all you like, people. God bless you all and your wonderful doggos.

[@Doggies363]

@@aussieoutbackfarm You sound hard done to 😂

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

@ It's amazing how me stating my opinion is so bad. You have a real issue, as does Zak.

[@camdecorations9779]

No you cant force a domaint breed dog with pure force. Your talking nonsense all that happens is the dog gets worse . Your supposed to be a trainer you should know bettwr than coming out with that rubbish

[@alexsarbu3978]

Funny how the alpha bros gathered here and on your Facebook page, bashing you in desperation, because their egos got hurt. Basically confirming what you're saying.

[@Erin_29]

😂😂😂😂

[@mattg1889]

Take Haz up on his challenge, Zak. Do it for the dogs! The dogs deserve to not live their lives in fear under Haz Othman, you need to help liberate the dogs by beating Haz at his own game. You said it yourself in this video - your results are better.

[@alexsarbu3978]

"Do it for the dogs"?v🤣 Haz' BS challenge is for his own ego. Would you validate the egos of every random dude who's "challenging" you? Would you spit on your own principles (e.g. obeying the leash laws) because poor Haz is having a fit on the Internet?

[@mattg1889]

@alexsarbu3978 well people believe in his system and Haz is getting very popular. Zak needs to crush that immediately by proving his methods are more effective (as he claims in this video) and ethical. The more he can prove head-to-head that his methods are better, the more dogs can be saved from abuse.

[@alexsarbu3978]

​@@mattg1889 But why do you think we should always compare training approaches on YOUR terms? The reward-based training stands on its own, without Haz being "crushed" (and I'm quite certain you hope for Zak being "crushed" instead). Even if you think Zak's reward-based training is sub-par, there are many higher-level experts to learn from; not doing it is a choice. Your proposal is nothing more than ego clashing, while the dogs' interests are completely ignored. And then, you're well aware that Haz has no intention to learn anything. He - and all of his supporters - would pretend he'd "won" no matter the result. Just like now they're all pretending that there's no proof whatsoever that reward-based training WORKS.

[@mattg1889]

@@alexsarbu3978 Because Zak and other positive only trainers just edit together a bunch of 5-10 second shots to make it look like their dogs are well trained, whereas Haz more often than not features videos of himself and other trainers with their dogs taking direction under heavy distractions for long periods of time. In his latest video, Haz and his friend have their very high-drive dogs in an off-leash heel through crowds of people with little to no editing. Zak George just shows short clips of engagement, which is what most do in the maybe the first week of training at most and would not constitute as a fully trained dog at all. It's sad that people are actually swindled into believing that Zak George actually trains dogs.

[@alexsarbu3978]

@@mattg1889 That's BS. You're not even talking about training videos, but about alpha bro ego inflating "look how obedient these dogs are". Breaking the law? Putting the dogs in danger? No problem. Then it's funny how you attack labels like "very high-drive" to dogs just to further inflate the alpha macho-ism of that dude 🤣 When a reward-based trainer show a well trained dog of the same breed, you guys are all "but it's not a high-drive dog!". How do you know? Because it wasn't done by an alpha bro trainer... Oh, and if a reward-based trainer does it it's "editing", while the alpha bro is always getting it right 🤣 These walks, like Cesar Millan style walks with multiple dogs, aren't at all a flex - but a red flag. They show the dog is irrelevant for the trainer, the dog's just a tool to make the trainer look good. But you can't even see the dogs looking absolutely miserable while the alpha bro is talking while carrying his coffee.

[@gnrfan1988]

High drive... Sure

[@daniellecarvalho9516]

I miss your old content that was longer and focused on your training techniques. I used so many of those videos with my English Lab. Now I feel like you are so wrapped up in the drama that it takes away from the teaching. 😢

[@alexandradittmann8588]

Oooo, provocative title, I like it! The alpha bros are no doubt shaking their heads in horror watching this, wondering how on Earth you can responsibly handle and train a Malinois X - a juvenile male, no less - without at LEAST a nice Herm Sprenger 2,25 mm prong collar on his neck. Well... turns out you CAN, because you SHOW it. Wallace isn't going after people or vehicles, he's not ripping into other dogs, AND he's obviously enjoying his training sessions with you. All that on "the-tool-from-hell-manufactured-by-demons-to-make-dogs-pull" aka the infamous HARNESS.

[@JenKirby]

@alexandradittmann8588 I love a good harness. I like the ones with a front clip best because I am disabled and need a bit of extra help if the dog gets excited. I don’t use collars anymore since harnesses improved so much.

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

I am a balanced dog trainer. How do you know that I'd use a prong collar on the dog shown in the video? I can assure I would never.

[@JenKirby]

I had another think about the harness question. To make clear what I mean about the improvement in harnesses, I like the ones that have fabric under the chest rather than straps that can cut in. My old dog (deceased at the age of 15) had a stroke at 13 which meant he had difficulty standing up from lying down. I kept the good harness on him permanently as it also had a handle on the back which meant that I could help him onto his feet easily.

[@alexandradittmann8588]

@@JenKirby That's awesome to hear, thanks for sharing your experience!

[@alexandradittmann8588]

@@aussieoutbackfarm That's very nice to hear, and you are right, I do not know what you would use on Wallace. But unfortunately, some balanced trainers on social media can be seen using the prong- and/or e-collar as standard equipment on any dog in their care, even tiny Yorkies and Pomeranians.

[@ilovemyfurrykids6607]

👏👍 well done

[@christicostas5825]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@Trinh1227]

YES!!!💜💚🩷

[@marrous4845]

The dog looks confident and alert. Well done!

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

no. he is scared, because Zak isn't giving him leadership.

[@alexsarbu3978]

@@aussieoutbackfarm For you, a confident dog must be one with his tail between his legs, cowering and trying to hide.

[@germanshepherdGCampbell]

Poor dog, at 1.12 min onwards it has the body language of a dog that has been through an extended Jeff Gelman boot camp. Dog training should be fun, this is shit.

[@WORKINGBULLIES]

So your not capable of getting that bag

[@Leeschutzhundk9training]

Nope