Why The State of Cartoon Network Should Worry You

[@TheAlphaJayShow]

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[@InsertFunnyThingHere]

Apologies for the wait.

[@DOOM_guyEditz433]

Its fine bro

[@jay-bw4pk]

It fine

[@cayishim2743]

It’s good

[@devinpaul9026]

BE ASHAMED!!

[@oof1070]

Amazing World of Gumball was the last show that I really watched and once it ended, I personally think Cartoon Network fell from its glory.

[@xmant8842]

I pretty much stopped watching around the time ok ko ended

[@PK-Radio]

I feel like gumball was the only show that actually got better as it progressed

[@spritvio639]

Honestly I haven't been paying attention to Cartoon Network as much as I used to. I mostly peaced out after Teen Titans Go was all they kept playing.

[@xmant8842]

@@PK-Radio i have to disagree. I think that ok ko got incredibly better as it went on (even though it already started off great imo) and I think the last season of gumball wasn't really that good and leaned far too much on facial humor

[@xmant8842]

@@PK-Radio also infinity train. That show was a masterpiece(though idk if I should count it because it moved to HBO max I believe)

[@Rafielo]

2012 - Channel embracing their cartoons against after the failure of CN real and celebrating the channel's 20th anniversary 2022 - Here, have an app, go away, this channel is for younglings. 2022 after July - Yknow what, fuck animation.

[@cordyceps7531]

I miss the period when Adventure Time, Steven Universe, Regular Show, and Gumball were all in their first couple seasons and TDWT was also getting started. That was a good time to be alive. The network hasn’t been able to repeat anything like that since.

[@LegoReader12345hello]

Same here! Those were my favorite shows growing up!

[@TheYoungGeninSasuke]

Twtd?

[@cordyceps7531]

@@TheYoungGeninSasuke Total Drama World Tour

[@LegoReader12345hello]

@@cordyceps7531 indeed the last time I watched total drama was the ridonculous race

[@TheYoungGeninSasuke]

@@cordyceps7531 Ohh

[@ComicalRealm]

Cartoon network been fumbling ever since they decided to put TTG on the frontlines instead of the hidden gold they got going on

[@adriannaoverfield6626]

I especially love Craig of the creek because it feels realistic. It shows how q child works and plays around. I get to feel like a true child when watching it.

[@lucylulu1123]

Yes!!!!

[@fairylesbyaintdve6536]

RIGHTTTT LIKE MAKES ME WANNA GO OUT AND MAKE “POTIONS” AGAIN…..BANG ROCKS TOGETHER…..SCRAPE MY ELBOW….

[@rubenaalexander5007]

what is q child?

[@adriannaoverfield6626]

@@rubenaalexander5007 sorry i meant "a child" i keep accidently pressing the q button

[@deadchannel5811]

At the rate things are going, I don’t think Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon and Disney Channel are going to be around in a timespan of 5 years.

[@ArtieArchives]

We'll see

[@TheNwadike]

No they’ll live on through the streaming services.

[@deadchannel5811]

@@TheNwadike So just basically making content for theirs parent companies streaming services?

[@richardfrench6039]

I doubt that Disney Channel will be around. The other two I’m not sure of.

[@ArtieArchives]

@@richardfrench6039 I agree. What I will think will happen to the other two is that Paramount is eventually going to phase out Nick by 2024 or 2025 so it is exclusively on Paramount Plus. Cartoon Network is probably still staying for a while.

[@LendriMujina]

...honestly, I'm surprised CN has as much of a future as you laid out here. I was under the impression that it just had... nothing left under its belt and was just waiting for its existing shows to quietly die off. It's good to know I was mistaken there.

[@TuesdaysArt]

Same here

[@markc900]

Yeah I stopped watching CN couple years ago, since the CN I knew and loved was gone but gave amazing shows in our childhood.

[@frauleinfunf]

Yeah man I hardly watch cable anymore and even when I deign to login to my stepfather's DirecTV stream I only ever tune into Cartoon Network for King of the Hill and American Dad reruns on Adult Swim, so I didn't even know what was on there aside from Craig of the Creek and Teen Titans Go.

[@undergroundman1993]

I was a senior in high school in 2010 and had pretty much lost interest in CN after they purged most of their animated lineup. One day one of my classmates asked if I had seen Adventure Time and the Regular Show. I told them I hadn’t and was mostly watching Adult Swim at that point. They were like “No, you have to check this out” So that night at 10:30 I tuned in and watched. They were so funny and different from anything on CN at the time I remember thinking “If this is what cartoons are going to be like in the 2010s then this is gonna be an amazing decade for animation”

[@Brother_Piner]

I stopped watching around 2012, cause I was going into high school, and didn’t care much for cartoons. Adventure Time was pretty fun and zany, but I came back years later to see how it ended, and it was almost unrecognizable, and they did a bunch of weird shit to it. It wasn’t the show I remembered, and I’m really glad I stopped watching just before the Steven Universe era came.

[@keshi5541]

@@Brother_Piner good thing. It progressed to more of a mature story as it went on. The only thing that was crappy about it was the romance subplot. Finn making the most dumb decision in fire and ice (worst episode).

[@kaidosleftnut5830]

Teen titans go killed cartoon network they realized they could make lazy no effort cartoons for almost no budget and just run the re runs on every available block they had

[@JBoehmGames]

As someone that got into Cartoon Network when their family first got satellite TV around 2001, I basically agree with a lot of the stuff said in this video. I loved CN growing up, and I slept on some amazing hits until I was able to watch them reliably online in my adulthood, but I could just tell that shows were of a different breed during my childhood than they are right now. This isn't a bad thing, but a lot of shows feel less...potent than they were in the early 2000s before the dark times. That's not to say modern shows are bad, but I feel that outside of the outliers like Infinity Train, there's a pulp, a texture, a punch, missing from anything that's come out considerably in the past 5 years from CN. I also wanna tack on that as long as shows like Teen Titans GO exist, animation will never shake its stigma of not being a respectable form of storytelling. When shows that are just visual noise get seven or eight seasons, but great stories like Infinity Train and OK KO get cut short, that tells Hollywood executives all that they need to know.

[@miserirken]

As a latino, i might point out V&V doesn't do well down here in LatinoAmérica. It might be the Güero Balazos effect, when the show try so hard to be representative about the LatAm culture, it actually ends triggering off locals, who just want some dumb fun like El Tigre or Mucha Lucha.

[@bobi200samatar6]

Dude, El Tigre was so fun, I'm glad people still talk about it.

[@uncannydcmarvelous5732]

Es cierto que algunos consideran a Victor y Valentino "el Gravity Falls mexicano" ?

[@miserirken]

@@uncannydcmarvelous5732 En su inicio, sí, pero conforme fue avanzando la serie, la gente dejó de comparar V&V con GF. Ahora sólo tiene audiencia por la gótica culona.

[@ekoyal_gemu4446]

El Tigre was amazing

[@minuxe6337]

This video is suddenly so much more relevant and foreboding now. The Lost Media generation of cartoons. What a devastating new era of animation.

[@tavvyprods1275]

One thing I’m worried about is the strong lack of love for the classic Cartoon Network originals, especially the obscure ones from the 2000’s & Cartoon Cartoons.

[@Webshooters1]

Well as Jay said, Cartoon Network is at it's best when it's focusing on new stuff. The sad fact is people like us who grew up on Dexter's Lab, Powerpuff Girls, Codename Kids Next Door, etc we're not the target demo anymore. You have to go to Boomerang for that.

[@VigilanteLulu]

I stopped watching Cartoon Network in the UK in late 2020 due to them rarely airing the better shows or airing them only like once a day in the afternoon or evening (like Craig of the Creek, one of the better modern CN shows, seemed to be on and off the schedule here in the UK). In the US, they seem more focused on moving a lot of CN stuff to streaming. Just wish we had that much content available to us in the UK. TV seems to be winding down, like I did over a year ago in favour of more convenient streaming/on demand options.

[@TheAlphaJayShow]

I wouldn't mind the streaming if it wasn't clear that they just dump a bunch of nothing episodes on them.

[@Mirrorcomics24]

All we have in de uk is apple and onion an some we bare bears

[@OmniversalInsect]

And we dont have hbo max in uk

[@Allanbuzzy]

@@OmniversalInsect Yeah, that dumb carriage agreement with Sky prevents us from having a proper HBO Max, leaving us having to watch the content that WOULD'VE BEEN ON MAX on Sky's other channels (one of Sky's channels is called Sky Max, if that's not a bit ironic) and some Max Originals being dumped on channels like Cartoon Network and/or Boomerang. Yet we have discovery+... 🙃

[@Power11112]

Has Cn done anything interesting this year like starting around late 2020 early 2021 I haven’t heard anything good going on with the network and this year literally has had nothing happen at all

[@noaudiochannel3131]

Good video but you forgot to mention two key points as to why CN's quality has gone down and why it will keep going down. 1. Live Television is dying. Live television has been on the decline since the last decade. Warner Media has likely been cutting Cartoon Networks budget and investing in other shows for their streaming service. There is no benefit in making higher quality shows for cable when Warner could just put it on HBO Max. 2. The Warner Discovey deal is going to negatively hurt cartoon network. Merger deals kill development. Any show still in development is going to be scrutinized by a new set of eyes and most get scrapped or the show will get moved to HBO Max. Ex Learning with Pibby still hasn't been green lit and Infinity Train being moved to HBO. The new deal will also cut cartoon networks budget. The purpose of the merger was to increase catalog sizes for both streaming services. It would be best interest to cut money away from a dying medium and invest into the new market (streaming).

[@auliamate]

semi-related, but with the merger they can just kill off discovery+ and move all that stuff to hbo max. also fun fact disney owns hulu and started disney+ anyway with little to no overlapping shows between both so they're all stupid over there with ESPN+ stuff

[@VerdeMorte]

@@auliamate Except Discovery actually has a bunch of shows people still watch across a broad age range. Buying them out isn't as simple as a quick merger. Meanwhile HBO has had some expensive stinker shows & seasons. Do you really want producers & writers altering successful shows to their own whims?

[@andreafraustoz]

still no excuse of making kids socially awkward in autistic manner (I'm aspie with social awareness)

[@gravelrun4028]

I've been worried for years, ever since Teen Titans Go was aired.

[@nickdorenkamp959]

Honestly despite being in my early 20s, as a fan of animation some of these new cartoons that the network is working on I am looking forward to some of these. My only note to cartoon network is don't do live action. While I understand why they do however it takes years to figure out how to do it. The reason why Disney and Nickelodeon do it is because they have sibling networks who practice that kinda stuff as well as years of practice. My main worry about cartoon network at the moment is that they want to be more like they're main competitors; and do live action. However what they don't realize is that they're competitors are telling them don't do what we do but do what you do. Probably not entirely the main point of your video, but given the pattern the network has had yeah. Also you forgot to mention Over The Garden Wall. I know it was a miniseries but it did lay the foundation for what infinity train would pick up.

[@ladymochi]

I will never ever EVER forgive CN for the cancellation of Infinity Train. They did so many shows wrongfully in the past before but they crossed the line with Infinity Train.

[@SomeIceGuy]

Indeed, I also don’t get why they still have shows like ttg and dramarama considering that they are *SO FUCKING AWFUL* . All of the humor in ttg is “haha butts haha fuck you robin ooh look at how gross these previously beloved characters are” and the humor in dramarama is “haha these kids are naked and chaotic oh poor chef haha explosion look how gross these previously slightly less gross characters are but as tooooddleeeers ooooooooooh”

[@AliceHobbes]

coming from someone who was there back in the golden day of Cartoon Network and saw it go down during the 2010's. I was amaze when my brother told me there is a great cartoon shows back on Cartoon Netwrok. During that time it felt like it was back to the golden age. Where Cartoon Network was back to what it was Cartoons; however, sadly I stop watching when I saw nothing but Teen Titan Go and nothing else. Once Gun Ball and Adventure time finish there was nothing else to watch. Cartoon Network doesn't know what it want to be or how they should fix it. Sadly I don't think they can fix it. The not even hyping it self up for anniversary this year.

[@HadjixFries]

When the alpha jay show uploads its gonna be 1.clever commentary 2.good humor 3.great charisma love the vid bro keep it up

[@zf10studios52]

I agree

[@ejay5570]

meat rider

[@zf10studios52]

@@ejay5570 how dare someone like a content creator

[@KOSFaulty]

Very sad the decline in CN they tried way to hard to pander to the younger audience when they had potential to grasp a larger slightly older audience who has now drifted to streaming services in favor of satellite/cable.

[@hankhill2889]

I’d argue it’s okay. There’s so many great cartoons in general to watch through, we have time to wait

[@dragfang3723]

Oh please it's never gonna get better

[@theolympiyn8670]

@@dragfang3723 why

[@TheAlphaJayShow]

I'm glad you think so

[@hankhill2889]

@@dragfang3723 that’s what we thought when Cartoon Network stopped making cartoons and then they made adventure time, Regular Shoe, Etc

[@sexy1018]

@@dragfang3723 "It's never going to get better" - Did you even watch the end of the video about future shows?

[@JaEm2162]

CN went from having shows like Regular Show, Gumball and Adventure Time to shows like Teen Titans Go and Powerpuff Girls 2016 😒

[@emerald_sustrai2002]

RIP close enough 😪 🙏

[@alejandrofontes3163]

No year like 2011 Adventure time, TDWT, regular show and the premiere of gumball how times have changed

[@Splonton]

I've always wondered how it would work out if networks like cartoon network dedicated a time block airing an old show in a marathon format for a week, then picking another older show evey week

[@penebui4827]

After what happened with HBO+ this video hits different

[@ouiouibaguette9991]

39:16 MAO MAO 💕✨ Thank you so much for including him! I don’t see many big cartoon youtubers mention him nowadays and it’s nice to see some Mao Mao rep. :) I really hope we get season 2 news at this year’s comic con

[@honeycomblord9384]

It's been two years now and I'm getting really concerned. Few shows have had a hiatus this long. Then again, the ratings and fanbase have shown themselves to be pretty strong.

[@DarkGoldDrawings]

Cartoon Network, as of now, is in it's dark age. I fear that it'll be LONG time before they come out of it. Here's a suggestion, go back to the roots. Go back to late 90's and early 2000's. I bet they'll make even more money and gain a positive reputation among the animation community if they went that direction.

[@prowolf633]

I am worried about Cartoon Network. Yet I also have ideas for what they could do to save it too! *Focus on Mao Mao again and give it more seasons (hopefully more then 3) *Give We Bare Bears one last season (We Baby Bears does not count) *Bring back Hanna Barbara/Warner shows (such as Captain Caveman and the Teen Angels, Speed Buggy, etc) *Make some more female lead cartoons *If they want to reboot a show again, make sure it’s good and not a sucker for modern cancel culture junk *Bring back Infinity Train for the last four books we need *Make Galactic Kids Next Door happen *CANCEL TEEN TITANS GO ALREADY! *Preserve all the shows removed from HBO Max thanks to Discovery *Most importantly bring back the CN city bumpers and music videos, and make some with the recent characters *minor note fix Boomerang, put back the cool toy bumpers and focus on the classic vintage shows

[@christopherbennett5858]

Oh and actually recognise that media is not a binary where it’s either Dora the explorer or Game of Thrones. 6-9 and 10-12 exist.

[@andrewjbrave1370]

Bring back 2003 Teen Titans would be great as well

[@christopherbennett5858]

@@andrewjbrave1370 Possibly. Although Teen Titans 2003 is one of those ones that many people seem to only remember the serious episodes when, in reality, it was closer to Rise of the TMNT most of the time. What they need are people who understood why the older shows worked. Not an understanding of a handful of episodes or the imagined show in their heads.

[@rivetsquid8887]

No way, the Hannah Barbara stuff needs to stay on Boomerang. Do you remember the late 90s and early 2000s? They used it like nick uses SpongeBob, to plug in every single empty spot, it was agony. Three hours of Scooby-Doo then a break for Jabberjaw. Also like 90% of Hannah Barbara was just the same couple of shows with different characters plugged in.

[@prowolf633]

@@rivetsquid8887 no no no I don’t mean reruns! I mean like revivals, reboots, or modern revamps of the shows

[@darwinbowman8512]

The fact nickelodeon is doing better than cartoon network says everything you need to know. Say what yall want about nick, but they are at least trying to put their best foot forward

[@sexy1018]

What is Nick doing better?

[@squinos3255]

Nick has literally only has like 3 cartoons now 💀

[@ekoyal_gemu4446]

Both of them are flopping as far as I'm concerned SpongeBob and the loud house can't save Nick

[@nippy3674]

​@@squinos3255 and they're making live-action versions of FOP and Loud House.

[@guyonyoutube3850]

"Amphibia still goes on strong" is anyone going to tell him?

[@PFGFrankly]

ninjago was license to air on CN, they don't own it, lego do

[@electricrage272]

Flapjack was and always will be my favorite CN show, I was so sad when it got canceled due to the live action shows, I still miss it

[@Hulk2k6]

The day they gave We Bare Bears the boot that's when they slipped

[@stuglife5514]

Craig of the creek is one of my favorite shows. The part where someone tells the kids they remind them of Ed Edd and Eddy in the show, that’s when it clicked for me about why I loved the show so much. For a note, I’m 23, and grew up on Ed Edd and Eddy as my favorite show. This show never made me feel pandered too either, which made it a breath of fresh air

[@brandimate]

Apple & Onion was def an underrated show of the 2010s and should have been prolonged for sure.

[@summerheart9834]

Period

[@crashban4t.f.s.b783]

I don’t consider the last decade to be magical. I respectfully disagree. The 2000s decade is more magical in my opinion.

[@JRProductions1203]

I Agree With Your Opinion. *2010s & 2020s: The Death Ages Of Animated Cartoons*

[@asian.draper6324]

Cartoon Network dropped the ball TOO many times! 😢 Everything you said in this video is true. You’ve mentioned a lot of cartoons that I’ve never heard of. If a streaming service is ever made to pat homage to animation, I’ll buy it in a heartbeat.

[@BlazeTheMovieFan]

I'm more interested in old shows than modern shows, and this video makes me convinced that's probably for the better.

[@viperblitz11]

Over the years I've noticed a recurring pattern of shows being made more and more toothless and vacant. Give it another decade and the content marketed towards 8-10 year olds will look like Peppa Pig.

[@dillonklasse4980]

Your right alpha jay, in my opinion they’ve got one good show(Craig of the Creek) and that lack of quality content is scary

[@tea-cat-morin]

I'd love to see a current day "state of nickelodeon" video sometime as well. I've not paid nearly as much attention to them as other programs, but from what I hear, they've been undergoing an agonizingly painful decline for several years now.

[@Kittenfox_55]

That part about Trick moon man I swear I need to acquire the rights to it to make it a reality.

[@HeilRay]

Whew boy if we knew just how bad things really are...and more bad news is rolling out.

[@lifevest1]

Grew up watching Cartoon Cartoon Fridays, then stopped…until Clone Wars aired, then Friday nights were lit again. Now, the first few hours of Adult Swim are all that is worthwhile.

[@eatatjoes6751]

I grew up with the golden age of TV Networks (late 90s-early 2000s) and I remember dropping off TV bar Regular Show as a teen, but Lord this is the worst decade for actual content - it's so bad that I'm willing to binge Regular Show and Gumball's worst seasons out of annoyance. As for Teen Titans Go, it's morphed from the Mount Rushmore of Cartoon Network to the crudely nailed wooden sign asking you not to climb on the Rushmore heads.

[@murderman8578]

Try out Anime

[@icecreamhero2375]

Gumball doesn't have any worst seasons.

[@sheff4719]

@@icecreamhero2375 Regular show and Gumball were pretty good, the future shows were horrible titans go-present

[@icecreamhero2375]

@@sheff4719 Regular Show is good and Adventure Time is horrible. It's just weirdness for weirdness sake. TTG is good.

[@yulee3266]

@@icecreamhero2375 I disagree adventure time and regular show were both equally weird strange and odd and it was great

[@oakleygleason7145]

Their current slate/lineup is worrisome, but they are going out of their way to get classic Cartoon Network creators back at the company. Both Genndy and McCracken coming back. They also have a lot in development overall, especially with Hannah-Barberra Studios in consideration

[@Redkodiak1994]

I'm surprised McCracken hasn't made a cartoon for nickelodeon like he did for cn and Disney xd

[@20035079]

@@Redkodiak1994 why are you surprised? Nickelodeon fucked over various cartoon creators solely because their cartoons never got at the level of SpongeBob or fairly odd parents

[@EduardoMartinez-rs3bu]

The only reason it worries me is because they cancelled DC superhero girls because no one gave a f*ck about it

[@soulkeeper7691]

beause it sucked i watched it on vacation because it was the only good channel on the tvs. And i switched to loud house until it changes back to the next show

[@EduardoMartinez-rs3bu]

@@soulkeeper7691 it's actually quite underrated Not to mention the only female centered modern show in cartoon network

[@OhSanjiBoi]

@@soulkeeper7691 You're taste is trash as hell if you put the Loud House over DCSHG.

[@bullmonty764]

While on the subject of how animation was impacted in the 2010s, I feel like Gravity Falls, though worthy of its acclaim, managed to break Disney Television Animation internally. This is because, in the decade since GF premiered, nearly every show the studio has produced afterwards has prominently featured the same tropes that GF perfected - the outgoing tween girl, serialization, the alpha bitch with hidden depths, characters who are toxic influencers (although that last one didn't start until later), etc, etc. This isn't always bad - I just started rewatching DuckTales 2017 and it's still as good as I remember it - but then you look at the criticism aimed at Molly McGee for following a repetitive characterization...while the same fandom adores Andrea, despite the latter being just as recycled in terms of characterization as the former. Frankly, I am getting kinda frustrated at DTA for clinging to the GF tropes for literally half my life, to the point I'm convinced that Hailey's on It (an upcoming show) could be reviewed without actually watching it, just based on how long the formula's been used and abused. Sorry for going on so long; I'm just opinionated on a lot of stuff

[@Commenter839]

LGBT rep is as much a trope as showing a Latino character in the background. Gravity Falls didn't invent it, and to even claim it popularized this is a major stretch considering Steven Universe existed back then. And Andrea isn't really toxic or a bitch. She's spoiled and a bit conceited, but she ultimately is a nice person. The only episode where she acted like a bitch was in her debut, after Molly accidentally made her angry. But in all her other appearances she's pretty nice to them, and even used her following to raise money for Molly's family to stay in Brighton. Serialization has become more popular in the years since GF, but tons of creators have stories they'd like to tell too. I agree that before Molly McGee aired Disney was a little oversaturated with them, but hopefully this show (and Miraculous Ladybug) can remind Disney that episodic comedies are just as good as serialized stories.

[@bullmonty764]

@@Commenter839 If it helps I removed the rep part of my speech in light of your reply. Also my only real exposure to Molly McGee was the earliest episodes, so that might have affected my stance on Andrea just a little. I do think that shows like McGee, though episodic, still have elements of the other shows DTA has made (Molly’s personality in particular), which is why I put it in with the others. And that kinda feeds into a point I forgot to mention - which is that despite the current crop of shows being more standalone, they’re inevitably gonna have elements of what GF popularized (or, alternatively, what Phineas and Ferb popularized, judging from what we know so far about Hamster and Gretel) because those tropes are just part of the cache of Disney’s cartoons. Rounding it out, GF didn’t popularize LGBT rep and serialization for cartoons as a whole (Avatar. That is all, at least for the latter), but you certainly saw a lot more of them afterward, especially on Disney shows. Hope I’m clearer now

[@majamystic256]

I kinda moved on to watching more anime after shows like Adventure Time, Regular Show, Steven Universe, and Infinity Train all ended

[@icecreamhero2375]

I also watch a ton of anime but I watch American cartoons too.

[@kruellzer0877]

Anime really change my perspective and opinions in entertainment throughout the past few years. Like more than half of the cartoons I grew up in aren’t as good as I remembered. Majority of the new cartoons that has come out over the past five years seem mid with their generic story or animation. I still like some old cartoons that came out in the 2000s and appreciate some modern ones as well, but anime from the 90s and on just knows how to grab my attention with their great story, characters, animation, jokes, and messages

[@dallas8961]

Meanwhile disney is producing bangers like Amphibia, Owl House, Big city Greens, TGAMM, and more

[@TheAlphaJayShow]

It’s great to be a modern Disney TVA fan

[@dallas8961]

@@TheAlphaJayShow Fr! It just goes to show that if you put time and care into your network it’ll produce good shows which it feels like CN is NOT doing at the moment lol

[@uncannydcmarvelous5732]

Too bad the first two already ended/cancelled

[@dallas8961]

@@uncannydcmarvelous5732 yeah that’s sadly true

[@Astheryon]

CN in the 90s - 2010 years had so many shows that had unique art styles, animation and themes. Nowadays it's ugly balloon characters looking as if they stepped right out of Tumblr done by the same people over and over again.

[@raze2012_]

Not sure I'm convinced the pandemic wasn't a bit part of the decline. Keep in mind this was still part of a transition from cable, and As for the counterargument: yeah everyone else was hit too. Nick kept the sponge going because of course, and all of its programming is focused on reboots and nostalgia. Probably canned most of its original stuff due to the pandemic. A few streaming services got one lucky break, but that's really it. WOuld have been fine a decade ago, but you need more than one hook (or one HUGE hook, on the level of Spongebob) to keep that momentum. The only slight on CN specifically is that CN was floundering between Turner figuring out if they should homespin a CN app or throw programs on HBO Max (often thought of as a "mature platform"... I mean, you really going to assossiate the place for Game of Thrones with Teen Titans Go?). The did the former for years and it was probably the wrong move, but I get why. No other streaming service had to worry about that branding issue.

[@havenisthebest99]

I’ve been watching CN since the Chowder days, and all I see now in this channel with all these Reboots and shit is one thing: fear. CN is too scared to greenlit potentially amazing shows that could bring in tons of revenue and they play it safe by showing excessive reruns of a mediocre at best reboot(ttg)and Gumball. They had a chance to lay a new foundation with Trick Moon, but they cancelled it due to the restructuring. Also, Mao Mao was a pretty good show, not amazing, but it’s great. Why the fuck we haven’t gotten season 2 yet is beyond me.

[@bricegraham8256]

Quite honestly I loved Elliot from Earth. It was such a good show and I loved the art style and the characters. I just wish they'd continue it and continue Mao Mao which is another amazing show. My favorite show that is currently airing is Craig of the Creek. Its such a good modern cartoon with amazing animation, awesome references left and right about all sorts of things. And the little world in the creek with the creek kids is just ugh I love it so much, I cant get enough of that show, they said there will be a season 4 hopefully that's true ad they even said there will be a movie. If its in theaters, my ass is finna be up in the theater. and I say that cause its extremely rare for me to actually want to see something in the movies let alone go out of my way to go watch a movie of some franchise that I hardly care for. Id also like to buy a boxed set of the show. Id watch every single episode all over again. I just love the show that much.

[@barelyhere7200]

Honestly I never really watched much of Cartoon Network other than the amazing world of gumball so once that ended I basically stopped watching the channel altogether so now I’m just slowly waiting for the gumball movie

[@isaiahhill2104]

I started watching CN back in summer of 2011. Man, 2010-2012 CN was great. It only seemed to be getting better and better and the network climaxed in 2012, as all of their shows seemed to peak in quality around that time. The only downside to that era was that the action shows got poor treatment. 2013 was where the network began declining, not because of TTG, but because so many shows declined in quality that year (except for ones like Gumball). 2014-2015 is where the scheduling took a toll, but was probably the last good era of CN due to good shows like We Bare Bears and Over the Garden Wall. 2016 and especially 2018-now, CN’s been dead.

[@jtcookie96]

In defense of the people who hated Thunder Cats Roar, myself inlcuded, there was one other major reason it was panned and hated as it was. The man who was creating it flat out said he hated the original and his brothers made fun of him with/for it. The general belief is that he took up this project to stick it to them as he had no attachments to either the orginal or 2011 versions of the show. The belief is that if you have no passion for what you're working on, then you shouldn't be working on it. Something I wholeheartedly agree when it comes to entertainment.

[@stereokuuji]

I usually comment on a video of this calibre in the middle but the presentation was so good I just had to finish it so shout-out to Alpha Jay for creating imo the best introspective video on Cartoon Network to date and also to the editors for adding that extra spice to make such a cohesive video. Well, to the my opinions part of this comment (y'all gonna hate me for this smh) Teen Titans is the Riverdale of Cartoon Network I really wish I had the chance to enjoy Infinity Train back when it was new and not during the pandemic where I had to find out at 2am in the night that it had been cancelled If Teen Titans was the show that put me out of favor with CN, Craig of the Creek and MaoMao brought me back For most parts, I glad we share the same reservations for the upcoming Gumball projects but I feel that Elliott from Earth(by some sort of miracle) has the ability to be one of the best shows of this decade Finally, Ivandoe is getting a show And I can't wait to witness the future CN holds for us In conclusion, I'm only watching The night Begins to Shine spinoff for the song I've said alot only because I watched the full video from beginning to end without any distractions all thanks to the presentation. I could actually see this being presented in a meeting

[@saberlupin646]

I'm still waiting for an english dub for villainous

[@epicstar86]

Man does anyone even remember the Lego Mixels show

[@CorbinLeonard-rp4et]

Now teen Titans go is Dead and there are no new episodes

[@galaxitee]

Wait really? I actually want that thing gone.

[@CorbinLeonard-rp4et]

@@galaxitee yeah because cartoon network move to a different place and they merge with adult swim and they going to be in crisis on infinite earths

[@ChristopherPortorreal-ol2mj]

It better stay like that because they only just making the fans angrier. If there was a full anime style like the original titans I would watch it anger TTG

[@sabertoothno34]

i can't be the only one who remembered a show called "Apple & Onion" that used to air on cartoon network, right?

[@kristin332]

you’re not the only one

[@mewfashion443]

TotalDramarama ended and in the way it should have. ANd it was suprisingly satisfying to see an in universe explanation that was suprisingly accurate

[@jamsem5522]

As someone who was born in 2006, i was glad to be able to experience someone the greatest shows 2010 cartoon network could offer. Heck even my older cousins introduced me to their favorites like Kids Next Door, Billy and Mandy, Chowder, Camp Lazlo and all the other great things from early 2000's. It's sad to see that Cartoon Network fall down from it's prime, I pretty much stopped watching after Mao Mao and OK KO ended. I binged Amazing World of Gumball but the episodes eventually led me to a spiral of boredom. I used to be so eager to watch Cartoon Network that i'd wake up at 7 in the morning and run to my dad's room to turn on the TV. Heck I would even tell dad to skip Mickey Mouse Clubhouse on disney cause a new episode of Adventure Time was on. I'm now on a quest to find all my favorite shows on DVD and play it on my old DVD Player, I know it's weird to get it on DVD but fuck it, for nostalgia's sake I'll do anything. Can't trust websites nowadays.

[@sebastianperez759]

I think that you forget about Villanos That mexican series that is in HBO Max and also Aired in Cartoon Network

[@JustEpic_Yt]

I still can’t believe ttg been going on since I was in pre-k… I’m in high school now

[@LexarXaryonx]

Honestly, I feel like if CN didn't cancel regular show and adventure time, or at least did reruns of it, they'd be in a much better state than what they are now.

[@andrewjbrave1370]

It's better they ended when needed then get seasonal rot like other shows.

[@LexarXaryonx]

@@andrewjbrave1370 I said OR do reruns.

[@Trist233]

I still think JG wanted to end Regular Show and due to that it had a story arc in S7 and S8

[@baddragonite]

"It's only been 3 years of the current decade tho!" So about a third of it?

[@Dana-kp2sc]

My kids only watch Gumball now on CN. They'd rather watch Big City Greens on Disney Channel 😅

[@GamingG4276]

I am indeed worried for Cartoon Network. Esspecially if those rumors that the network might become a full preschool network are true.

[@LikaLaruku]

My take on modern CN shows is this: 1)It evokes resentment from 90s kids. In the 70s-90s, kids grew up with more complex art styles teetering on the edge of being almost anime-like, & now we're gone back to the hyper-simplified art styles of the 50s & 60s that just scream "money saving budget design." 2)Cartoons were edgier, more mature, & more serious in the 90s, so it feels like we're being dragged back to the 80s or earlier when everything was dumbed-down & safe. 3) Too much reliance on insipid slapstick gags & pop cultural references that date the show horribly & feel condescending to watch. This is what ruined the Addams Family 2 2021 movie (the awful soundtrack didn't help either).

[@TheYoungGeninSasuke]

They cancelled Apple and Onion which I actually liked :/ now all that is left is Craig of the creek and sometimes Vic and Valentino. But I fear even those two will be gone. All that will be left is Teen titans go.

[@icecreamhero2375]

TTG probably has low ratings because it's hard to know when new episodes will come on. For years when CN airs new episodes has been all over the place. Now it seems to be Saturday Mornings.

[@andrewjbrave1370]

TTG isn't the only cartoon network show with low ratings they all are getting a low amount of viewers. It's because cable TV is dying. Also they play TTG really early in the morning now.

[@icecreamhero2375]

@@andrewjbrave1370 The random schedule probably doesn't help.

[@tylerensminger]

With the recent happenings going at WB Discovery this might have been a good prediction video

[@LikaLaruku]

Cartoon Network SEROSIOUSLY needs to bring back "What A Cartoon" & let viewers vote on what gets made.

[@HeilRay]

Here’s an idea, get someone on record that didn’t like Thundercats….making a new Thundercats everyone hates. “….genius!” - Cartoon Network exec. It certainly was…an idea.

[@uncleshrek3614]

I just want Cartoon Network to end it's decade in a good note. The Late 2010s were just awful: -The TTG Mega Marathons began -Regular Show was the only show to being able to end -All the 2010 hits getting cancelled, leaving with a bunch of shows that aren't strong. -HBO Max's existence -Reboots that are inferior to their predecessor and are controversial -And Donald Trump's Delaying Merger affecting production of those shows For CN to play good in this decade they need to actually produce Story driven shows, since that is what it's trending now. (Look at Arcane & The Owl House) Change Cartoonito for Boomerang since HBO Max exists for the classics Retry some stuff they failed in the past like Movies (Remember Boston Mooninite Panic?) and make Good Live-Action Shows like Tower Prep. (Tower Prep were good, they just cancelled because of the "Girls dont buy toys" mindset in the past) Pray Warner that they don't get in legal trouble with the US ever again

[@masterknife8423]

Regular Show went on too long imo

[@brainthebrian3690]

@@masterknife8423 Went too long, and went a needlessly weird direction for no reason

[@uncleshrek3614]

@@brainthebrian3690 I mean it's a CN Show. Of course they would go for too long. Adventure Time had +280 eps, Gumball had 243 eps, Dexter's Lab had 221 segments and Johnny Bravo had 174 eps.

[@yulee3266]

@@brainthebrian3690 what weird direction was that

[@Brother_Piner]

@@uncleshrek3614 Yeah, now that I think about it, a lot of great shows went on for too long and had crap endings, like Regular Show and Adventure Time. By the end, they kinda morphed into something weird and different from how they began, and not in a good way. Felt like they attempted more than they should’ve with the kinda shows they had. Especially with how much drama was in later Adventure Time. It just made me lose interest. I came for zany adventures in a weird land, not some convoluted love tetrahedron, or seeing Finn cope with a deadbeat dad.

[@mobilematthew]

Three that I haven't seen is Elliott, tig n seek and the trick moon short and how dare you we baby bears is lovely

[@bean1e_b0i_]

that was a pretty clean sponsorship intro

[@rori4687]

All I want is good ol infinity train back :'))) forever gonna be bitter about it's cancellation

[@DonutTPOTer]

Its even worse now..

[@superstar64]

Boy this aged well... You may laugh now, or don't.

[@JerryThePuppet]

I am so glad he included infinity train, its one of the most underrated shows, and my personal favorite show.

[@Invisiblemanreal]

Craig and the creek and summer camp island adventure time and Steven universe

[@APickleHero]

Slid that ad in real smooth...

[@wrenholder8436]

I really loved Craig of the creek me and my mom love this show it reminds me of some of the older shows I watched when I was younger

[@andreas_gaming_24]

A 1 and 3/4 hour video made all about the one the greatest shows on Cartoon Network. You are a madman

[@fluffyspaceowls4278]

im so angry about transformers animated, i loved that show, it was the first transformers show i watched without my dad after he passed and it upset me so much hearing that they cancelled it. the person that made it even said he had so much more for the show, not only did he pass away but even hasbro doesnt talk about it because of the way CN treated it

[@fishbonezzz]

I will admit that I was a bit shocked in TAWOG's placement in the tier, but I can see where it comes from. Rewatching the series, I did feel a bit anxious about Season 6 as it didn't really have much to offer and it's humour began to edge more into "goofy ahh funny troll meme faces haha" but I have heard that Ben was coming back to the studio to help in the movie. Really hoping they're able to save the show, because as much as I love it, I don't want it spiraling down the same direction Spongebob or the Teen Titans franchise did.

[@uncannydcmarvelous5732]

Man I just hated every time they do a "funny face" in the show, it felt so cringe and forced.

[@fishbonezzz]

@@uncannydcmarvelous5732 Mk yeah I sorta agree with that. Some of those episodes were just plain out unwatchable, and it's a shame that it was a common theme in the later half of S5 and all throughout S6. Also ik this is unrelated but when I saw Gumball hit the floss in the last episode of the series my soul just shattered.

[@deovolo7061]

Dang I remember the of Cartoon Network before ok ko lets be herod wasent cancelled

[@FRANCEYVO]

Kinda surprised Apple & Onion wasn’t mentioned seeing how it ended just this year

[@andrewjbrave1370]

It sucked

[@ashleyedwards185]

The era of grim adventures, code name kids next door, teen titans… those shows were top tier. CN took over cartoons with those shows. Would chose them over nick & Disney any day

[@DiegoRmolano]

Victor and Valentino is about to be 🔥🔥🔥🔥....stay tuned!

[@chronixx1481]

No way the kept on all them other shows but canceled infinity train I’m pissed

[@mikeclarke5732]

Can you do something similar to this for Nickelodeon?

[@TheEvilFlowerReaps]

That sponsor seugway was seamless

[@nicholasrodinos4701]

23:31 I have a bad feeling the movie's going to either spend all its time trying to make you like the idea of a new reboot/remake series that it makes you loathe the movie. Justice League Dark: Apokolips War, was a part of the DC Animated Movie Universe, it was a list of movies that shared a connected universe, consisting of the films: Justice League War, Robin: Son of Batman, Justice League Throne of Atlantis, Batman Vs Robin, Batman Bad Blood, Justice League Vs Teen Titans, Justice League Dark, Teen Titans: The Judas Contract, Suicide Squad: Hell To Pay, The Death of Superman, Constantine City of Demons, Reign of the Supermen, Batman Hush, Wonder Woman Bloodlines and finally Justice League Dark: Apokolips War and it was designed to wrap up all those movies even though several of them had plot threads that were yet to be addressed (Jericho and Veronica Cale), and the film just killed off a bunch of characters some of whom you had no emotional investment in (like they introduced Donna Troy in the last few minutes of one film and then they killed her), some were given terrifying bits of body horror and then they're just like "Well, this sucks, let's move onto to the next universe." It's kind of hilarious that recent DC animated films are trying so hard to not have a connected universe, and if another JLD:AW is a possibility, yeah, I'd be worried to.

[@rottingyuh]

WOW. homie named shows i haven't heard of in YEARS. great video, I loved it.

[@jakedub58]

So mad what they did to we bear bears that show was a masterpiece, it had its bad times but I didn’t even hate the episodes with the baby bears. This new one is the worst though I must say though Craig Of The Creek is probably their best show right now. It captures the dreams of every kid and puts it into one show that manages to be adventurous, exciting, and wholesome all at once