The TOUGHEST Part About Liking Hazbin Hotel

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@TheAlphaJayShow
@TheAlphaJayShow Жыл бұрын
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@andyfriederichsen
@andyfriederichsen Жыл бұрын
No, because your sponsorship plug/ad was too long.
@TsukaiHikushi
@TsukaiHikushi Жыл бұрын
i think my only complain about why it hard for me to watch the show is jesus christ they throw the LGBT in my face like a god damn canon i can only watch one which was helluvaboss but even that kinda oh sweet dear lord it like anime no DC and marvel
@andyfriederichsen
@andyfriederichsen Жыл бұрын
@@TsukaiHikushi There's a ton of LGBTQ people in that show's version of hell? LMAO.
@danpaz9485
@danpaz9485 Жыл бұрын
I hope they do Helluva Boss justice, there is a lot of shit that needs to be fixed
@andyfriederichsen
@andyfriederichsen Жыл бұрын
@@TsukaiHikushi The shows takes place in you-know-where and has a lot of LGBTQ characters in it... That can't look good.😂
@andreas_gaming_24
@andreas_gaming_24 Жыл бұрын
The actual hardest part of watching hazbin hotel is trying to watch it without spending 50k dollars on an animated music video
@TheAlphaJayShow
@TheAlphaJayShow Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@literallydrone
@literallydrone Жыл бұрын
Its hard to resist the urge to do that
@AnAveragePurplePikmin
@AnAveragePurplePikmin Жыл бұрын
My friend fell into that trap :(
@ngruiying1311
@ngruiying1311 Жыл бұрын
Bro, just drop already...
@6-dpegasus425
@6-dpegasus425 Жыл бұрын
I feel like thatll never be let go, and im totally for it xDD
@h8thegr8
@h8thegr8 Жыл бұрын
Husk’s development in episode 4 was refreshing to see. I hope that the show does more stuff like that.
@TheAlphaJayShow
@TheAlphaJayShow Жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY
@aaronatkinson177
@aaronatkinson177 Жыл бұрын
Also Angel's as well
@michaeladams8263
@michaeladams8263 Жыл бұрын
@@aaronatkinson177 nah
@aaronatkinson177
@aaronatkinson177 Жыл бұрын
@michaeladams8263 I disagree I think angel also got good character development alongside husk
@raccoonman9409
@raccoonman9409 Жыл бұрын
And husk got the best song so far imo
@dabatman5187
@dabatman5187 Жыл бұрын
Using the 50k drama as a transition for an ad read is so bold
@TheAlphaJayShow
@TheAlphaJayShow Жыл бұрын
I had to make the ad as entertaining and relevant to the video as possible 😅
@fanaticalistic
@fanaticalistic Жыл бұрын
The Fandom and Hatedom for Vivziepop's works is insane to be honest, you can rarely say ANYTHING because then people will see it as you taking a stand with either side.
@TheAlphaJayShow
@TheAlphaJayShow Жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s kind of crazy
@seeleunit2000
@seeleunit2000 Жыл бұрын
Whic in the grand scheme of things is asinine as it is pointless. These people are just looking for anything to shit on this show for or anything that Vivziepop does regardless of what it is. That's what we call bullying. It's fucked up. I swear people are hyper critical, hyper judgemental, hypocritical morons.
@surprisedchar2458
@surprisedchar2458 Жыл бұрын
@@seeleunit2000 my guy, your cadre are literally the other half of the problem. Helluva Boss dropped off but a long time before I gave up on it, the fandom drove me out for daring to have some minor criticisms of the show’s poor writing and unearned focus shift. Vivzie’s fans have earned their infamy, and her work being the source of it is naturally going to draw derision.
@ronancer
@ronancer Жыл бұрын
real
@Randomyoutuber-4831
@Randomyoutuber-4831 Жыл бұрын
@@surprisedchar2458 you mean like how the Steven Universe fandom did? The toxicity we have here is not new. It can be found in pretty much any sizable fandom to varying degrees. The only difference is that the dedicated hatedom creates a negative feedback loop that causes this toxicity to rise to the surface and become much more apparent
@crumblemuffin1257
@crumblemuffin1257 Жыл бұрын
I'll say it. The hardest part of liking any of Viv's work is that you can't say shit about neither of the shows because otherwise an army of dudes who won't even read the full thing will manifest only to curse the hell out of you
@SarcasticPossum
@SarcasticPossum Жыл бұрын
Pretty much.
@hlk323
@hlk323 Жыл бұрын
I feel the other way. I like the show and love watching honest reviews, but everywhere I look I only find negativity about the show. I never find these die hard fans protecting the show. I only hear about them from the people who don’t like the show. But yeah the vivziepop war is just dumb. Like it or not, all the people fighting is just pointless.
@Souphover
@Souphover Жыл бұрын
Facts
@TheAlphaJayShow
@TheAlphaJayShow Жыл бұрын
Well said
@Souphover
@Souphover Жыл бұрын
@@TheAlphaJayShow the god himself speaks I bow to you
@Moonlight.Howlings.666
@Moonlight.Howlings.666 Жыл бұрын
The pacing is honestly the only real HARDEST I've had with the season soo far. Like I think the story is really entertaining but it could benefit by slowing down a bit. Maybe they’ll do it for the second season but I am still invested.
@TheAlphaJayShow
@TheAlphaJayShow Жыл бұрын
Well they do have 8 episodes so I can see why the story doesn’t slow down that much
@mintychustarclan7381
@mintychustarclan7381 Жыл бұрын
​@TheAlphaJayShow hold on, there are only eight episodes to season one?
@silascraven
@silascraven Жыл бұрын
@@mintychustarclan7381 yeah, pretty short
@mintychustarclan7381
@mintychustarclan7381 Жыл бұрын
Whatever happened to filler episodes?
@DevilSpade
@DevilSpade Жыл бұрын
Honestly I feel like it's gonna go moral oral where it has this huge high but then backs up and slows down for people to digest and understand
@Jonathan_Collins
@Jonathan_Collins Жыл бұрын
The show is currently blowing me away. By no means perfect, but it's got so much heart and soul, which is important because that's what got it this far in the first place. I think Hazbin's HARDEST right now is it's rushing all it's plot points. It needs to take it's time because other than that, this show has been amazing, especially episode 4.
@TheAlphaJayShow
@TheAlphaJayShow Жыл бұрын
Episode four is definitely the one
@MushroomOfMeh
@MushroomOfMeh Жыл бұрын
@@TheAlphaJayShow I'm glad it slows down a bit in episode 5 & 6
@raisylvaine8398
@raisylvaine8398 Жыл бұрын
The issue is just the fact that they only got an 8 episode season I think. They kinda have to rush a few things to fit it in their time frame
@3nowStorm
@3nowStorm Жыл бұрын
The hardest part about liking the show is the fact that it’s super popular and with that people get toxic on both sides. This show definitely isn’t perfect, but I enjoyed it, and I can’t talk about my criticisms because of the fans and I can’t say I like it because of the people that don’t like it. They get really offended for some reason. You cannot win. XD
@pimkinn
@pimkinn Жыл бұрын
its like the dream of cartoons
@TheAlphaJayShow
@TheAlphaJayShow Жыл бұрын
What I’ve learned is you gotta find level-headed people and speak to them or if you’re gonna speak about it publicly, just ignore the flat out hate lol 😅
@NyxTheZenith
@NyxTheZenith Жыл бұрын
Only problem for me is the pacing, and I can handle that. A second season was already confirmed, so I'm ok with most problems others have. I still love the show
@TheAlphaJayShow
@TheAlphaJayShow Жыл бұрын
It is nice to hear that a new season is out!
@NyxTheZenith
@NyxTheZenith Жыл бұрын
@@TheAlphaJayShow they announced it in the first official trailer. Not sure how you missed it but yeah, glad more is coming!
@kaiserhundkek2531
@kaiserhundkek2531 Жыл бұрын
@@TheAlphaJayShow and given that most of these kinds of shows (invincible, the boys, etc.) usually start out with the same number in season 1, if they're any indication we should get like double the number of episodes we had with this season.
@TheNicMMc
@TheNicMMc Жыл бұрын
Hate to say this but it might be more of a cuphead situation, meaning that we will get season 2 and season 3 later this year.😗
@rainydaze2889
@rainydaze2889 9 ай бұрын
Viv said that s2 is going to have less episodes then s1 so..😬
@KanuKanu11
@KanuKanu11 Жыл бұрын
If you try to criticize the show people will attack you, if you say good things about the show other people will attack you. :/
@TheAlphaJayShow
@TheAlphaJayShow Жыл бұрын
That’s fair
@Silly1336
@Silly1336 Жыл бұрын
That’s just the internet for ya
@AA-wd5hy
@AA-wd5hy Жыл бұрын
Internet to the fullest
@shylar763
@shylar763 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I mostly get bombarded for liking the show, but just yesterday someone basically told me the show clearly isn't for me just because I said I'm not a big fan of all the singing in Hazbin Hotel sometimes, like hello? I literally like the show so far I just don't like the singing sometimes!
@akira8393
@akira8393 Жыл бұрын
​@@shylar763the singing is what annoys me now.
@murderman8578
@murderman8578 Жыл бұрын
Honestly the complaints for the raunchy nature is mostly the first ep I feel the later eps have more balance and that the raunchy nature is used more as a tool than be schlock comedy
@TheAlphaJayShow
@TheAlphaJayShow Жыл бұрын
The fourth episode is truly the best one so far
@Pinkywinkykinky
@Pinkywinkykinky Жыл бұрын
so is the loser baby song@@TheAlphaJayShow
@solisjanmikeg2431
@solisjanmikeg2431 Жыл бұрын
That basically how I feel when I saw the four episodes. 1st episode is the only mid so far, and the only episode that I feel that the pacing is fast This is coming me who one of my complain in Helluva Boss for it pacing.
@RaspBerryPies
@RaspBerryPies Жыл бұрын
Bojack had the same problems the first episode and first season tbh but i love that show. I feel like the fandom and people who hate on this show are so toxic. I think that it’s actually very incredible what the team has been able to do so a lot of that stuff is jealousy but some people also just don’t like the show (I think it’s okay) and feel the need to hate on it because it’s trendy and cool and will give you internet points with the right crowd. There is also a huge history of female creators in the world of TV, movies, and games getting a TON of hate more so than their male counterparts (the hate towards helluvah boss but Brandon barley gets as much for it despite being a cowriter and his humor being VERY raunchy)
@Bluz_Corner
@Bluz_Corner Жыл бұрын
@@TheAlphaJayShow YES omg it’s my favorite because we finally got to see angels life
@KamikazeDreamer
@KamikazeDreamer Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, since I've never seen this show or knew much about it until recently, it's permanently stained with "this is the show a dude simped so hard for he paid 50K to not get laid in his self insert fan fic music vid"
@TheAlphaJayShow
@TheAlphaJayShow Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the unfortunate marketing surrounding this show was a blessing and curse
@akira8393
@akira8393 Жыл бұрын
I'd say it's better promotion than you could even ask for
@jip0611
@jip0611 Жыл бұрын
Not all marketing and promotion are good, especially if you want to build a fanbase for something new@@akira8393
@lucid5017
@lucid5017 Жыл бұрын
For me, I feel like the hardest thing about watching Hazbin Hotel Is that character and story plot lines feel a bit rushed. I didn’t really understand the whole character arc for Vaggie in episode three as I felt like it wasn’t built up enough. I also can’t say I’m that invested in the hotel itself. Since we already know that heaven created hell because they were afraid we don’t really get the sense that redeeming souls is something that is doable, or will achieve anything as we already know there are something sinister going on in heaven. I still like and enjoy the show, especially the music, but the only real plotline I am interested in is Alistair and his backstory. Again, this is just my opinion and anyone is OK to disagree with it.
@Jack_Of_All_Trades768
@Jack_Of_All_Trades768 Жыл бұрын
I can respect that. While I dislike some of the writing and pace, the characters and plot line did spark some interest in how it will theoretically end. So, all in all, it's a good show, but I kinda wish it was a little bit better at the story. Also, the jokes, some are good, and some are just dragged on to long.
@paulslegosandvideos3808
@paulslegosandvideos3808 Жыл бұрын
The Show is the definition of “Flawed but good overall and still has potential”.
@TheSuperCasual2914
@TheSuperCasual2914 Жыл бұрын
Can't believe they got Spawn to play a demon cat with wings. A24 really reached for that talent!
@lornbaker1083
@lornbaker1083 Жыл бұрын
At this point I believe he doesn't even do it for the money. He just does it because he likes it and he finds voice acting incredibly fun
@TheSuperCasual2914
@TheSuperCasual2914 Жыл бұрын
@@lornbaker1083 and we (unless I’m the only one) love him for it. He’s excellent even during his time as Barricade in the Transformers games.
@LurkerPlus
@LurkerPlus Жыл бұрын
Spawn? No, they got the cat from Coraline and offered him wings! (and a crippling gambling addiction) 😜
@juicedbeetlejuice4572
@juicedbeetlejuice4572 11 ай бұрын
We got the Arbiter himself in the Hazbin universe lmao Keith David is a legend
@namba3886
@namba3886 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the show, its all i wanted, i never expected a perfect 10/10 show, i wanted a show with complex entertaining characters, great vibes and great art. Now that it arrived I even got super emotional at different parts.
@TheAlphaJayShow
@TheAlphaJayShow Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the show gets quite deep
@aaronatkinson177
@aaronatkinson177 Жыл бұрын
​@TheAlphaJayShow it only got deep in episode 4 but the show was still fun to watch 😊
@ermnoel
@ermnoel Жыл бұрын
For me the fandom is the hardest part about liking hazbin the fandom is weird asff with a lot of problems other then that i completely agree!
@TheAlphaJayShow
@TheAlphaJayShow Жыл бұрын
I have a friend who makes videos and I hear this all the time. I can’t wait to meet them. 😊
@ArtieArchives
@ArtieArchives Жыл бұрын
That logic can pretty much be applied to any show, movie, book, or game ever made
@ermnoel
@ermnoel Жыл бұрын
@@ArtieArchives i wanna say I never said I didn’t like hazbin, what I meant is that the fandom is just gross and I rather not interact w it
@ArtieArchives
@ArtieArchives Жыл бұрын
@@ermnoel I never said disliking the show is wrong, my point is basically every popular show or game has a toxic and weird fanbase like Sonic, MLP, Adventure Time, Steven Universe, Mario, Thomas, ect
@ermnoel
@ermnoel Жыл бұрын
@@ArtieArchives i agree fandom culture effects everything
@commodoreRumbleshanks
@commodoreRumbleshanks 11 ай бұрын
The swearing is the biggest turn off for me. Im not pearl clutching. I don't mind swearing but there are ways to use it for comedic effect successfully and vivzie fails at that often. When swearing is shoved down your throat it loses its meaning. Take loser baby for example Husk swearing ruins it. It pulls you out. But at the end when the other demons find them and one goes "they're fuckin' singing!?" That hits well. Curse words shouldn't be used to replace other words. They should be instead used to enhance a sentence for comedic effect. Vivzie doesn't seem to understand this. Infact it's not just her this is a common miss step in a lot of adult cartoons. Take big mouth for example. Swearing can be special but when every other sentece is full of swears it loses its meaning
@sunsetter4940
@sunsetter4940 5 ай бұрын
I don't have a problem with the swearing simply because they're in hell which is a crappy place, and swearing a ton feels realistic. I guess it comes down to if you notice it, because I can see how all those "shucks and darns" can get repetitive.
@SarcasticPossum
@SarcasticPossum Жыл бұрын
I like it for what it is. Is it perfect?No.I'm just happy that its finally here.
@aaronatkinson177
@aaronatkinson177 Жыл бұрын
Me to it has potential for sure 😊
@SarcasticPossum
@SarcasticPossum Жыл бұрын
@@aaronatkinson177 Ye!
@Nerdsfeed
@Nerdsfeed Жыл бұрын
The creator and the fandom are honestly the part that hurts the show most for me. If people have criticism, even if its constructive, it gets bombarded with pure hate. Story can improve, characters can become more developed, humor can be formed and learned from over time, but the Fandom is an outside factor that the show itself won't be able to fix. Its up to the ones that love it to change the precedent they set. Which hasn't been a good one so far. The people that despise the show aren't much better, each side is an extreme, leaving a very sour taste in my mouth by the fact tha I can't say anything positive or negative without drafting myself into the war or ending up collateral damage in the process
@aaunyea4799
@aaunyea4799 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! I have parts of the show I like, and others that I'm critical of. When I mention my criticism, the stans act like I told Viv to off herself. They're so defensive, and self destructive to their own fandom
@Nerdsfeed
@Nerdsfeed Жыл бұрын
@@aaunyea4799 100%! Its the sad state of things, and with Viv blocking all criticism, her fanbase will react the same by following her lead. Hopefully it doesn't lead to the shows downfall but its a sad possibility
@aaunyea4799
@aaunyea4799 Жыл бұрын
​@Nerdsfeed honestly I'd be amazed if it gets a 3rd season at this rate
@Nerdsfeed
@Nerdsfeed Жыл бұрын
@@aaunyea4799 me too, I don't wanna see it canned, but it's doing a lot to isolate the fandom and alienate people that aren't a part of it. Hard to garner and keep a following that way. Especially if Viv doesn't listen to criticism in order to improve in certain areas.
@Danny-od1ks
@Danny-od1ks Жыл бұрын
The thing is neither is doing anything good, Viv is just tired of these complaints. Some are valid but some are just pure stupid or it's just mockery of the show and the creator. From what I've been seeing around 8 from 10 times I've seen any criticism about the shows are just hate not an actual criticism. It's hard being a creator, because a lot of people will try to bring you down, Twitter is the best place they can do it. Twitter nowadays is just a waste of time. People will make videos and make fun of Viv then go Pikachu face when she blocks them. I don't believe how she reacts is right, I believe she should just ignore these posts like other creators. Criticism is valid as long as you stay respectful. Which isn't the case for what I've been seeing from fandom.
@SillyBroXD
@SillyBroXD Жыл бұрын
I love and hate how rushed it is, I love it because it isn’t underwhelming but at the same time the story is really really rushed.
@sophiadebar382
@sophiadebar382 Жыл бұрын
The real hardest part for me, as much as I hate it, is watching it without feeling like I’m betraying my religion. I understand that it’s just a fictional show, and I understand that it’s ok to watch media even if it doesn’t agree with your personal beliefs. Despite all that, there will always be something in the back of my mind feeling like I’m getting stabbed in the heart whenever I see people treat my religion like a mythology when they theorize or when people use concepts they don’t understand to paint Judaism and Christianity as bad. I think the biggest hurdles I had to get over were Lilith, Lucifer, and Adam. I just couldn’t keep watching once I got to Adam sadly. It made me too uncomfortable, even though other episodes are really cool and the concept is great. And at this point in my life, if something makes me uncomfortable, it’s healthier to just ignore it I’ve realized. It just sucks cause I really do wanna watch it, cause I actually like helluva boss, but I just can’t
@MaryamFaisal-qi2ro
@MaryamFaisal-qi2ro 11 ай бұрын
I agree, they really went over the top with Adam's character. I can relate to this because in my religion he was supposed to be a prophet, the first one ever at that, and seeing him act like such a jerk was pretty uncomfortable, but I continued by reminding myself that it wasn't the same Adam from my religion who was being depicted. His whole character was pretty annoying upon introduction though. Like, I get it! I'm supposed to hate this character! You can stop now! The funny thing is that after the finale, he became one of my favorite characters. Seeing him not do anything obnoxious in his final moments and just smiling at Lute really changed my opinion about him, as a character at least.
@UJEvans
@UJEvans Жыл бұрын
Personally, I'm just not a fan of existential "heaven is just as bad as hell" type stories. I mean, it works fine as a twist in a Lovecraftian kind of story. But I'm stressed enough about life on earth. I don't need that kind of anxiety about the afterlife.
@TheAlphaJayShow
@TheAlphaJayShow Жыл бұрын
It is my least favorite story of the show, but Charlie and Angel Dust have incredible stories so far.
@Darkfa1r
@Darkfa1r Жыл бұрын
I think it’s because people are rooted bad.
@CassidyShadewing
@CassidyShadewing Жыл бұрын
This is my biggest issue, partly in how the bad of heaven is shown. Like Adam looks a lot like Mammon from Helluva, but acts even worse then Angel. For something that's supposed to be clear cut black and white, something they state in the show, having the two looking andacting the exact same is very tonally dissonant imo. You want to show Heaven as awful, then do so in a way unique from hell. There are more then one type of awful people. Make them standout as something different and not more of the same. Take the seven heavenly virtues (exact counterpart to the deadly sins) to the extreme, make them all smug self righteous assholes above all. Plenty of ways to make them dislikable and vehemently against Charlie's idea without the raunch. I don't mind the show has a lot of raunch to it, it's set in hell. It makes total sense to me that it's literally raunchy as hell. Just don't make Angels and Heaven raunchy. There should be some level of distinction between the two sides.
@pemguim1120
@pemguim1120 Жыл бұрын
@@CassidyShadewingI saw it more as since the rules are black and white, and those in hell can’t go to heaven, then those already in heaven cannot go to hell. So, in the shows universe, why bother to continue to be a good person once you’re in heaven? I think it’s speaking to a central theme of why people should be good not for self serving reasons like staying out of hell or getting into heaven
@LuznoLindo
@LuznoLindo Жыл бұрын
​@@Darkfa1r I find it a little lame, though. I mean, what's the point in believing there are two different realms you may go to when you pass when both realms are practically the same, anyway?
@psychomanatee3459
@psychomanatee3459 Жыл бұрын
I just wish the show would focus on it's actual main cast more to begin with without jumping right into the deep lore and conflict that's brewing between the angels and demons. Like, in a vacuum (I'm including the pilot along with the show btw), if we ignore all of the fandom theories, Viv's tweets, and all the other information you would've learned about the show from being terminally online, theres no reason to care about these characters really, thus, the huge angels demons conflict feels really underwhelming. And like, when that one character who I cant even remember the name of got that fucking power ballad solo/duet, I was just like, "Ok, who the hell is you though, wtf" I really wanna like the show, but it's just so hard to. I just wanna more of the actual characters that I've grown to really love since the pilot, not dozens of random nobodies that keep being introduced
@BLU3NX
@BLU3NX Жыл бұрын
Im glad hazbin is off to a good start. The fact an artist I found in 2015 has been able to start an indie cartoon revolution and a goofy little idea got turned into a real show that's enjoyable is amazing.
@olleselin
@olleselin Жыл бұрын
Good you're covering this now, Alpha! To think a once indie animation is now on a corporate streaming site....
@TheAlphaJayShow
@TheAlphaJayShow Жыл бұрын
It’s a big step forward
@fenior
@fenior Жыл бұрын
I'm already addicted to the show. I hope we get more of it cause its a BANGER.
@lanaethemoon6274
@lanaethemoon6274 Жыл бұрын
I'm really liking hazbin hotel but you're right there are flaws like the pacing is really fast especially in the first episode and sometimes the cursing is a bit to much kinda like helluva boss issue and learning about the characters and there motives except for Charlie and Angel dust
@TheAlphaJayShow
@TheAlphaJayShow Жыл бұрын
It does get a lot better though 😅
@lanaethemoon6274
@lanaethemoon6274 Жыл бұрын
@@TheAlphaJayShow Yeah I watched the other episodes and it is getting a lot better! 😊
@aaronatkinson177
@aaronatkinson177 Жыл бұрын
In episode 4 especially 😁
@geardog24
@geardog24 Жыл бұрын
6:27 Charlie was ready to pull out her Devil Trigger to protect Angel. That should’ve been strike one for Valentino.
@atcraft1070
@atcraft1070 Жыл бұрын
Im going to rant here so just bare with me here. I genuinely getting tired of people on Twitter nitpicking whatever Vivziepop does at all, the most notorious being an account with a Pomni icon (Not saying their name of course.) They have garnered attention by criticizing the show repeatedly, while sure some of it is valid most of it is heavily stupid, the account has great art but 90% of the content is just Vivziepop hate at this point, while sure it's good to criticize shows and creators they have gone straight off into the deep end, the two stupidest being grey skin color and what Vivzie did in the past, along with that they claim that characters who look perfectly fine need redesigns, usually changing them into animals or changing the skin color. Now usually I would question why the POC characters are colored grey, but heres the thing: they are all grey, plus if you look at Helluva Boss the humans have varied skin colors, meaning that if you go to hell your skin color may not match at all, its just the design choice, but lets not focus on that they say, "lets criticize on what Vivziepop liked on Twitter! Oh boy she liked a tweet about bad art that means she's a hypocrite!" At this point a lot of the haters are just trying to stir up drama, and criticize the most smallest of decisions.
@Lover_of_ebrietas
@Lover_of_ebrietas Жыл бұрын
7:48 call me a prude but unnecessary corn scenes in all media really just makes me drop things. I mean the abuse scenes ARE necessary but like...idk we really aint need a whole day in a life for bro. Really hoping no more corn scenes show up.
@MistaBaze
@MistaBaze Жыл бұрын
A friend told me the pilot was to draw people in to a raunchy hell show with no meat on the bone. Plus I was looking forward to seeing the Archangels and how they would do their relationship with Lucifer. Then they told me and I quote “Adam is the leader of angels and I’m sure there will be no god or archangels talked about in any way shape or form.” So I kinda just tossed my interest out the window.
@Thekinggamelon
@Thekinggamelon Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how Hazbin Hotel would have their main character to appear in an insane 50k music video Verbalase commission.
@monkiking778
@monkiking778 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Adam and the angles are the one characters that shouldn’t swear to help differentiate between heaven and hell even if subtly
@comradejux
@comradejux Жыл бұрын
I honestly didn’t like the show myself because it was hard for me to keep up with everything that’s happening in it, same thing with helluva boss, after seeing this video, I’m thinking about giving it another chance
@TheAlphaJayShow
@TheAlphaJayShow Жыл бұрын
It’s a lot to figure out and I had to triple check my script before recording. But I do think it’s a solid show so far
@comradejux
@comradejux 11 ай бұрын
@@TheAlphaJayShow understandable
@Rosy_Blossom
@Rosy_Blossom Жыл бұрын
I agree that the pacing is a bit fast. But i still love the show. Heck, some shows have pacing issues as well, but people still love it without it being perfect. I just hope nobody in the show dies (unless it's Val)
@aaronatkinson177
@aaronatkinson177 Жыл бұрын
Not vox he tends to be more likable compared to valentino 😅
@Ch33seGr8er
@Ch33seGr8er Жыл бұрын
I personally don't find the raunch to be too off-putting, considering it takes place in literal Hell. It makes sense that the people there wouldn't have filtered language. Though that isn't an excuse for the show to just smother everything in raunch. Where they're at now is fine, its what i would expect the dialogue in a Hell setting to sound like.
@TheAlphaJayShow
@TheAlphaJayShow Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’m sure to some people, this is exactly what they wanted
@HanyaPanya444
@HanyaPanya444 Жыл бұрын
Mean considering my friends and I cuss like a sailors (even as adults) the only one I saw as going to the extreme for that stuff was Adam and Im pretty sure he is supposed to be kind of a dick (the original one).
@ayylmao2190
@ayylmao2190 Жыл бұрын
@@TheAlphaJayShow I agree with your characterization of raunch but nifty is funnily enough the exception for me. I know what I'm getting when she's in the scene so its not as jarring or nearly as annoying when the show does it with other characters.
@paradoxtatorstudios9681
@paradoxtatorstudios9681 Жыл бұрын
@@HanyaPanya444 i used to think the swearing was excessive. but now, being in high school? it's actually realistic tbh lmao. i know a few people who are crass or overall act like assholes and we all swear, so it's kinda a moot point to get mad at the swearing imo
@artistanthony1007
@artistanthony1007 Жыл бұрын
Remember when this was about Redeeming Sinners in the Hotel? WELL HA! YOU THOUGHT WRONG! IT ISN'T THAT! THE HOTEL ISNT THE FOCUS!
@itsdabees
@itsdabees Жыл бұрын
It's just the setting, chill out.
@hhj186
@hhj186 Жыл бұрын
@@itsdabees And the name of the show. And the storyline the pilot set up. And one of the only interesting things about the show but okay
@quacklesuh
@quacklesuh Жыл бұрын
literally when have they dropped that focus from the plot
@HawkinaBox
@HawkinaBox Жыл бұрын
I can't believe no one else is pointing that out, honestly.@@quacklesuh
@fanaticalistic
@fanaticalistic Жыл бұрын
1:59 I, personally, think Mr Dickmaster was wonderfully charming ⭐(I did actually laugh at this, but then felt bad cuz everyone else said it sucked)
@TransMascTrump
@TransMascTrump Жыл бұрын
They don't know when to not drag out a joke
@ramtasitic2276
@ramtasitic2276 Жыл бұрын
Same i thought adam was funny
@TheAlphaJayShow
@TheAlphaJayShow Жыл бұрын
I’m looking forward to seeing how they use Adam as a character but he didn’t sell me on the Heaven vs Hell aspect of the show so far
@sophiecooper1824
@sophiecooper1824 Жыл бұрын
His song slapped so hard , I'm a sucker for Rock music so it was a nice surprise to hear Adam sing "Hell is forever " Alex Brightman has an amazing voice
@Pioxys
@Pioxys Жыл бұрын
I guess my issue with my series is that it's struggling to find a balance on what it's trying to be. The pilot was very snappy, very polished, on beat with it's comedy, while telling a bigger story. You start to see this approach take more effect in Helluva Boss. Where it's office humor fits super well with the bigger storylines they're trying to introduce. After watching the first 4 episodes, I realized there are some elements of Helluva Boss that should have stayed with Hazbin Hotel. (The Deadly Sins, musical pieces, etc.) Here, the cast plays off each other well still, but the punchlines became hit or miss. That's because now they have a chance to tell a huge story within 2 seasons. So I expect the show to have moments where they drag on too long. Which makes it weirder that the story is all over the place, because they're trying to cram all these elements in the first season. Do they want to be more episodic? Do they want to focus on lore? Why is everybody getting powerful character development so early? Why do we have so many storylines going on at once, and which should be focused on? You would think they've nailed the formula with the pilot, while working on Helluva Boss at the same time. While this show has a strong identity, it has it's flaws keeping it together. Another brief note I'll mention is the artstyle. The pilot's backgrounds & character models looked fantastic for a concept episode. Here it takes a big dip, with backgrounds looking more flat, and characters feeling more shorter & thinner than they should be? Helluva Boss had this issue too in some episodes, but it's more consistant here. The animation is still amazing to watch. Still very fluent & fun to look at. Overall, it's only the *first 4 episodes,* of *season 1.* With the rest to come, and all the legal controversies out of the way (from both shows). I bet Vivzi feels great finally taking her time writing out season 2. Which gets me a bit excited to see where they're going to take this. This has tons of potential I'm sure they finally want to tell.
Жыл бұрын
The sad part is to me, by rushing due to lack of episodes and only 2 seasons so far, it means even if they got more seasons later, Vivzi would have rushed elements that could of been drawn out, I feel like Hazbin SHOULD of been green lit foir 4 or 5 seasons and a minimum of 20/25 episodes each. Kind of sucks that we dont have long term planned stuff anymore because MSM wants the quick youtube shorts/tiktok style of cash in shows, not realizing that it doesnt work for something with this level of depth to explore. To me Hazbin should of been like an old sci fi show called Babylon 5 where the creator came in saying "look I got 5 season of story, let me tell it over 5 years" and the execs went "Yeah okay" He got to the 4th year and was told he may not of gotten a 5th season so season 4 ended up with a shorter wrap up of one arc and a quicker/cutdown season 5 arc in the last half..... then of course JMS (The creator and showrunner) got told he was getting a season 5, so he kind of had to come up with more stuff, had a fair bit of filler but even then he knew his story, knew what was logically coming next and went with it. And it worked.
@Laura-iu8sp
@Laura-iu8sp Жыл бұрын
💯 agree. This is the kind of story that would work perfectly spread out over many seasons. There is so much to cover, and what bothers me most is how they're handling the character growth. Imo it's happening way too fast with the main characters already revealing their internal struggles, having huge growth and becoming good friends by episode 4, whereas in the pilot they mostly hated or were indifferent to each other and seemed a long way from any kind of improvement. I just thought that would last a bit longer in the show?
@hostii9157
@hostii9157 Жыл бұрын
Honestly my biggest thing about the show is the fact the hatedom has scared so many fans from speaking about this show or even talking about it because the amount of hate brought onto the show and the fans has made fans scared to be lumped in with people that have done really disgusting things to the crew members and the creators family in real life ☹️ it’s what i’ve heard from fans
@xcellentcreations3312
@xcellentcreations3312 Жыл бұрын
Well look at it this way Alpha jay, most of Amazon prime's adult animated cartoons are spectacular, so Hazbin should be in the clear!
@TheAlphaJayShow
@TheAlphaJayShow Жыл бұрын
Most? 👀
@xcellentcreations3312
@xcellentcreations3312 Жыл бұрын
@@TheAlphaJayShow OK I may have been exaggerating there since so far, they got 3 animated adult shows, like Legend of Vox machima, Invincible, and the boys diabolical, bit given how amazing those shows are;
@aaronatkinson177
@aaronatkinson177 Жыл бұрын
​@xcellentcreations3312 I never watched the legend of vox machima
@xcellentcreations3312
@xcellentcreations3312 Жыл бұрын
@@aaronatkinson177 you should! It's fantastic! ^^
@Little_Eris
@Little_Eris Жыл бұрын
@@aaronatkinson177 it’s based of a critical role dnd campaign so if you like that you could enjoy it.
@donnamitsuki281
@donnamitsuki281 Жыл бұрын
I'll be honest I hate the haters more than the fans. Sure it's a bit annoying when people treat Viv like a saint who can do no wrong but there's people who hate her and both shows as if it was personal by now... On a different note. The pacing is way too fast,and idk if I should blame it on flawed writing,or these people trying to get as much out before their show is axed without a warning...
@enoch7564
@enoch7564 Жыл бұрын
I feel like 8 episodes isn't enough for an entire season. Or rather, it could be enough, but not enough has happened in the first 6 episodes for a season conclusion to happen in 8 total episodes.
@ShawnNovom
@ShawnNovom Жыл бұрын
MOM LOOK I'M FAMOUS 0:06
@CorwinTheOneAndOnly
@CorwinTheOneAndOnly Жыл бұрын
All it really needed was double the runtime for the plot it was trying to tell. We were so close to greatness, held back only by the runtime length of a single long movie.
@aliciasaniyya
@aliciasaniyya 4 ай бұрын
Please the pause at 6:39 before you say “ reprimanded “ had me 😭 this was such a good video! I really agree with the ketchup metaphor on rauchyness being overused for comedic purposes, you literally put it in words perfectly in my opinion!
@cartonraff8039
@cartonraff8039 11 ай бұрын
I do agree on a lot of things, but I believe you should have waited for the full season to release. A show never feels the same if you see only the first half compared to after watching in it’s entirety.
@crashbandit0483
@crashbandit0483 11 ай бұрын
I agree
@RT60
@RT60 Жыл бұрын
USING THAT FOR AN AD READ IS INSANE great vid man 🙏🏾
@Nightman221k
@Nightman221k Жыл бұрын
Seeing the show introduce the plot about a potential hell uprising from being able to kill an angel... I think the series is getting too big for its britches in that department. Give Viv a story about her twisted characters doing zany things and it's mostly her wheelhouse... give her a full scale Hunger Games haves vs. have nots and all out war? I think the series will get cut short by Amazon before her writing level matches those stakes. I'm not trying to knock her, I just see where her strengths lie. Also, hell's a disorganized corrupt fucked up place where the denizens kill and rape each other, is it plausible that they'd be able to organize to fully change the system? I think she likes introducing big ideas but has no idea where she's going.
@LuznoLindo
@LuznoLindo Жыл бұрын
Honestly, by the sixth episode, it doesn't feel like it's about the hotel anymore. We're six episodes in, and the only new tenant they've got so far is Sir Pentious. And now, they've going to go to war come the next two episodes? It feels like the show should've been an episodic thing where Charlie gets a new tenant every episode, and _then_ it gets to the war stuff.
@Nightman221k
@Nightman221k Жыл бұрын
@@LuznoLindo It really should've. Viv's shows always lose the plot and get over ambitions. Character interactions are what interest her most but HOLY SHIT, she went overboard with the amount of characters in an 8 episode season. I can't see this getting the pay off when the characters don't get have time to evolve, not when there's heavy story beats and 2 musical numbers an episode and like minimum 2 new characters tossed into the cast per episode. No time to breath.
@LuznoLindo
@LuznoLindo Жыл бұрын
@@Nightman221k It's true. I mean, the original pilot definitely felt that way, for that was also jam-packed with characters and many things going on. It's unfortunate that it's the same as that now other than the art style.
@clipclop3786
@clipclop3786 Жыл бұрын
Feel the problem behind the world building, and I mean the whole hell is practically an anarchy but it also ha sa class system and king, including the contradictory story building is because the the show and artist already has an established fandom and kinda cultish following which will find reasoning for plot holes and defend bits of the story that fall flat. But I can’t wait to see if writing and plot improve in the second season because there’s a lot that can be done with the world building
@ElecticalCheetah
@ElecticalCheetah Жыл бұрын
Basically if you say you “ like it “ or any of her work people will verbally attack you, I said I liked a animation and people just went off , the interesting deal was that people were saying things and it didn’t add up
@TheAlphaJayShow
@TheAlphaJayShow Жыл бұрын
That’s what I’ve seen
@ElecticalCheetah
@ElecticalCheetah Жыл бұрын
You just can’t enjoy anything because people out of nowhere scream that “ she said this” or “ she did this “ And I’m basically agitated because I just want to enjoy it with out the hate fans popping up
@animationstation1005
@animationstation1005 Жыл бұрын
I personally ADORE this show, but you make valid points and I respect your opinion
@Indie973
@Indie973 Жыл бұрын
Don’t let Verbalase get in the way of your enjoyment it’s best not to think about it
@MxSae
@MxSae Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@TheCommenterDragon
@TheCommenterDragon Жыл бұрын
At least the series is fun to watch when one is bored and there's nothing better to watch. I mean yeah it could be worse but still.
@TheAlphaJayShow
@TheAlphaJayShow Жыл бұрын
That's a pretty good mindset around it
@aaronatkinson177
@aaronatkinson177 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheAlphaJayShowI agree
@TheCommenterDragon
@TheCommenterDragon Жыл бұрын
@@TheAlphaJayShow Well now I wouldn't say that.
@geardog24
@geardog24 Жыл бұрын
Deep down we all wish we had 50k to make our fanfics come true. 😂
@MatecaCorp
@MatecaCorp Жыл бұрын
The Hazbin Hotel fandom/hate train is literally as bad as the Star Wars nuts. Everyone with legitimate criticisms is called an evil troll (at best) and everyone who likes it for sane reasons gets called a moron (at best). Even if I liked the show I wouldn’t be able to enjoy it fully because there’s nowhere online to discuss it without being surrounded by the dregs of internet culture.
@patrice8487
@patrice8487 Жыл бұрын
if you hate the show you get yelled at by people who like the show if u like the show you get yelled at by people who hate the show
@raptorwithwings
@raptorwithwings Жыл бұрын
I hate the fact some people dissect the hell out of the world building, point out its flaws, and call it bad writing. There’s gonna be contradictions in any fictional world. Toy Story is one of the most beloved series of movies ever, and there are SO many things that contradict the premise. Like why does Buzz freeze like a toy when he doesn’t think he is one? Or why doesn’t Woody know his own character’s lore when most other toys do? This is left unanswered to this day, but it doesn’t automatically take away from the quality by itself. At that point it’s just a matter of how much these contradictions bother you. That being said, one gripe I do have is that fact that they portray heaven as a place for good souls, while simultaneously showing Adam is just as bad as anyone else in hell not even being subtle about using extermination as oppression rather than population control. I would’ve much rather had him be the “high and mighty above-it-all” type rich people are typically depicted as instead the exact same brand of asshole as hell. It could’ve been such a cool way to distinguish heaven from hell while still being on brand for Vivziepop’s writing.
@annesavisaboonchuy
@annesavisaboonchuy 11 ай бұрын
The most popular criticism ive seen is that the animation is bad and it’s just not? It’s very good.
@Overlord367
@Overlord367 11 ай бұрын
i mean ill be perfectly honest you got to keep in mind viv is an animator first or at least i think thats the case feel free to prove me wrong.but overall in a era that’s rather boring and sanitized with in my own opinion nothing much to spend money on(like not kidding i am having a hard time just finding joy at all.)its kinda nice actually to see adult humor that’s blunt at times.not saying its all good and i can agree with that but ultimately i am just glad there IS a show and it IS happening in this era as it’s only going to get better i feel and i get it cussing for the sake of cussing can get dull but the irony is in an age were no one says whats on there mind and more and more fun is died or dying or actively getting killed(looking at you every star wars thing after episode six besides clone wars.)its just kinda nice to see humor of any kind at all especially if it actually upsets people who are somewhat soft.look if you don’t want to watch it then don’t its the same thing i get confused about when people complain about going to watch a movie or buy a game that may not be there thing.there is a free pilot on KZbin and it’s sister show is free if you don’t like that you probably won’t like this and its free sooooooo why not test the waters a bit?its the same with everything.however i will say this too don’t expect too much from things that take more than 2 years to make ever would be my advice as ultimately i just think people should appreciate what we get not what could be because if you think you can do better than go do so.i am relatively positive if you want to work for her or even to make something on your own go right ahead and do better if you think you can but do remember any fool can destroy but to make something?any thing?go ahead lets see how well you do and see how positive people are unless its polarizing or political.seriously go make something anything and go to random places and people and try and sell it lets see how everyone does and please no cheating as you’re missing the point if its friends or family members.till next time and please do actually try it does not have to be someone totally random but like really i think it would help many to understand that everyone is a critic amongst other things. 2:24
@tommybean45
@tommybean45 11 ай бұрын
Angel dust makes the decisions and Anthony deals with the consequences, when Angel is more nervous/anxious and not so sure of himself it's Anthony, if he's being cocky and dangerous, is Angel dust, idk if that will help understand his character, bit just some info
@aaunyea4799
@aaunyea4799 Жыл бұрын
I won't stand for this Niffty slander Jay! She's just a little gremlin 😂 i do really want to know her backstory of how she became tethered to Alastor. There's talk that she could have been an overlord like Husk, so if she was I'd love to see it.
@paradoxtatorstudios9681
@paradoxtatorstudios9681 Жыл бұрын
and also what she even did to end up in hell lol.. tho i guess given the sadistic little gremlin she is, probably was due to abusing critters or something-
@PeterSpaghetti69
@PeterSpaghetti69 Жыл бұрын
Well, at least the series probably costed less than $50,000.
@TheAlphaJayShow
@TheAlphaJayShow Жыл бұрын
I don't know about that lol
@PeterSpaghetti69
@PeterSpaghetti69 Жыл бұрын
@@TheAlphaJayShow you're probably right
@littlelamb..202
@littlelamb..202 Жыл бұрын
sir pentious is so silly i love him so much he also reminded me a lot of orangusnake too!
@justaskmonica1013
@justaskmonica1013 Жыл бұрын
Idk if I inhaled so much weed from my school that it’s killing my brain cells but when I hear some of the songs from the show it either doesn’t match the voice actors voice or the just switch out a different singer in the same song
@SD-rb5xp
@SD-rb5xp Жыл бұрын
OKAY SOME TAKES: -Needed more episodes, at least 13 but this was out of the og crew's hands once they signed the contract. Reduction of characters would have likely helped once this was known -Excessive cursing is lower than I expected honestly but very much misplaced in allot of places -Poison didn't need to be the scene that it was -Poison should NOT have been the promo song if they were going to have it (stayed gone would have been better) -Dislike how something is considered a joke one ep then trauma another, it isn't consistent -The hate is overblown (depiction of subject does not equal endorsement) -I kinda wish people from heaven were censored like in the good place (What the fork?) -I'm very excited for the overlords, rosie, and the remaining songs
@shadesslitz
@shadesslitz Жыл бұрын
IDK why but I'm lowkey happy that I grew outta my Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss phase. The fandom mostly, and some parts of the hatedom. I kinda see why ppl dislike/hate the show.
@abbers0737
@abbers0737 Жыл бұрын
For your last few thoughts, that’s exactly why I really try and distance myself from fandoms of shows I enjoy. People get wayyyy too up in arms about liking/disliking shows and some of the names attached to them. Another thing about Hazbin Hotel is that I feel like it was always meant to be a very niche show, where it checks a lot of boxes for what some people want in adult animation while also being very far from the adult tv standard and thus a bit off putting for others. Not everyone is going to like the music and songs if that isn’t their thing. Not everyone is going to be comfortable with a show set in hell. Not everyone is going to like it and I feel like we need more shows where that’s the point. It’s fine, dare I say good to have a show with a niche audience, and I honestly wish there were more of that in adult animation instead of just trying to appeal to the widest audience possible. I just wish it wouldn’t always lead to such polarizing views that only get amplified online.
@littlemacisunderrated412
@littlemacisunderrated412 Жыл бұрын
Angel dust has been the hardest arc to watch. But that's because Valentino is a REALLY good villain. really good... It legitimately hurts to watch because of how good he is at making me hate him.
@MxSae
@MxSae Жыл бұрын
Idk if I’d call him a good villain, just a massive piece of shit. But you are right, it’s hard to watch and it really hurts because of how horrible he is. I love that the fans collectively hate him though
@ScruffySFM
@ScruffySFM Жыл бұрын
I personally love the show so far past episode one. The main issue is the fan base and pacing but I don’t think the latter is that bad
@tc4331
@tc4331 Жыл бұрын
My main problem about Viv's work in general, I mean both Hazbin and Helluva Boss, is how there's too much swearing and 18+ jokes at times but not actual plot half of the time. 1:50 is an example of that, I don't mind if s€xual jokes imply it subtly since you're the one who needs to guess the meaning, but being explicit is unconfortable at times. If it focused more on substance than the jokes, then it would've been more interesting than uncomfortable. This is also just my opinion so if you disagree, then okay. Just don't get angry and start a war please.
@ThatguyUkn0wfr0mS0mewhere
@ThatguyUkn0wfr0mS0mewhere Жыл бұрын
This was surprisingly a really well thought out review. You have subverted my expectations once again like with your Plankton vid. My main issue is one that Viv's other show (Helluva Boss) has, a lack of good structure in the season and how the episodes are placed. Idk if that was the actual term for but basically Im referring to the placement of the episodes. Much like Helluva, serious plotlines have been introduced extremely early on in the series and it came with at the cost of less focus on some of the main characters and the jadedness of characters who were supposed to be over the top jerks. We're being introduced to entire new plot lines of different characters that it takes away any development we could've had for existing ones. Tho I will admit it does work much better for Hazbin as it supposed to be much more "serious" than Helluva, and we might need all we can get at the moment for character background and world building. Sry if that was long, great vid nonetheless!
@iwantedtobethatanomaly2270
@iwantedtobethatanomaly2270 Жыл бұрын
One of my biggest nitpicks about the show is how I literally keep forgetting that charlie and vaggie are a couple. They seem more like friends tbh.
@artistanthony1007
@artistanthony1007 Жыл бұрын
Thank Viv, she doesnt know how to do those stuff, she's just around gay men. That's literally what it was before HH even came.
@abbers0737
@abbers0737 Жыл бұрын
I kinda liked that aspect of their relationship tbh, their relationship seems much more than just a romantic one. I can totally see your side of it though because in a lot of scenes Vaggie does feel more like a bodyguard friend lol
@RaptieFeathers
@RaptieFeathers Жыл бұрын
The hardest part about liking this show is that I can't get "Respectless" out of my head
@lordnazar6382
@lordnazar6382 Жыл бұрын
GOD DAMNIT I HAD IT OUT OF MY HEAD AND YOU HAD TO MENTION IT Sht i had that song stuck in my head and now i hear it again.
@brandycole387
@brandycole387 11 ай бұрын
Yess, I was literally thinking about that when I saw your comment!
@RaptieFeathers
@RaptieFeathers 11 ай бұрын
Nooooo, it's back in my head. THE CYCLE CONTINUES
@winglessfairy564
@winglessfairy564 11 ай бұрын
So basically the fandom and the fast pacing
@ocarinaplaya
@ocarinaplaya 11 ай бұрын
My introduction to the more obsessive side of the fandom was their response to my comment that Alastor being asexual wasn't relevant to his character and the fact that asexuality isn't an actual thing in humans. They got super offended trying to justify such an insignificant aspect of Alastor that, to this day, hasn't manifested in the show let alone in the pilot where I commented.
@DrAngelKins
@DrAngelKins Жыл бұрын
Fandom, man. The fandom is the worst sometimes
@sophiecooper1824
@sophiecooper1824 Жыл бұрын
I'm part of the fandom and let me tell you i don't fully agree . Of course for me it's normal to see criticism of the show but if it's just pure hatred i don't support that . I'm talking about people insulting the character design and saying i can do much better ( then make your own show), insulting the creator and her heritage, even criticizing her for eating at MC Donalds or Getting a Latte at Starbucks ( seriously) posting literal de*th threats... She definitely didn't handle it well with replying to so much or blocking the people . She should have just ignored it but she's only human and makes mistakes like all of us but when she makes a mistake it will be used immediately against her in the most cruel way. So yeah the Fandom definitely gets defensive quickly and yes some of us sadly can't take normal criticism either because they see it as an attack. I can't defend them. So yeah the fandom is a handful but so are the haters. It's sadly well balanced
@VelvetteSimp
@VelvetteSimp 6 ай бұрын
Hatedom is honestly more toxic tbh
@MarissaOfUnderground
@MarissaOfUnderground Жыл бұрын
The hardest part of liking it is not only its writing and execution, but also the fact that people cannot disassociate the show from its creator, especially younger people. Gen Z seems to have much more difficulty separating art from artist than people my age. And with Gen Z being the majority of people online, it gets exhausting having to explain "I don't like Viv, I just her shows" and still getting flak for it -_-
@silkyshimmerox5010
@silkyshimmerox5010 Жыл бұрын
Hazbin isnt perfect. Its got issues. But for me and many others, the good far outweights the bad and I can overlook them. I try to appreciate what there is, and not what there isnt. And there is a lot of good
@moonycat
@moonycat Жыл бұрын
YES!! A FELLOW SIR PENTIOUS ENJOYER!!! He's wonderful, so wonderful
@bobbobbo5278
@bobbobbo5278 Жыл бұрын
I have been a huge fan of vivzie for 10 years, she was my inspiration for animation. I still enjoy her work but its more as a way to show respect for how far she has come. If i wasn't a fan i dont think i would like her current work tbh.
@AshVXmc
@AshVXmc Жыл бұрын
This says a lot about the nature of tribalism and polarization in society
@The_ASMR_Listener
@The_ASMR_Listener 9 ай бұрын
I think the show is soo close to being amazing but its writing falls flat sometimes. I love the characters and world building and i want to see more i just hope the writing gets turned up
@Rozemyne2314
@Rozemyne2314 Жыл бұрын
This is why you dont ever join twitter and read any of these weirdos comments. People keep making it out like viv killed their family in front of them or something
@itzTeTe
@itzTeTe Жыл бұрын
I feel content with hazbin hotel as it stands I won’t have a fully developed opinion until season 1 is complete but so far I’m liking it. Yeah it can be raunchy but It gives like… drunk college students on Halloween type of vibe if that makes sense 😂. But when it gets serious it gets really serious, and there are serious moments in the background of the chaos. IMO, the in seriousness and raunchiness is like Angel Dust… it’s doing that to hide something bigger… something they don’t want us to see yet so they divert the focus. I get I may be looking too far into this but this is just how my brain is making it make sense 😂
@jordanloux3883
@jordanloux3883 Жыл бұрын
The thing that ruins the show for me is the pacing. The jokes don't have time to breathe, character stuff is rushed, and six episodes in and we're already preparing for war with Heaven. It feels like the first season should have just been about working with Angel Dust and seeing if Charlie really CAN make someone want to turn their lives around while stuck in a place like Hell. Plus it would be funny if Adam was just showing up as the angel on Charlie's shoulder telling her to give up her dreams.
@tdflky9944
@tdflky9944 Жыл бұрын
One thing that interests me is Morning Star, which means January in Skyrim, and it finally aired in January
@Mr.Griffin824
@Mr.Griffin824 Жыл бұрын
I mean it’s cool but prob unrelated
@the_gaming_falcon
@the_gaming_falcon Жыл бұрын
Bro watch the pilot before the show because it's the real episode 1 the show starts 1 week after the pilot so it introduces all of the characters and some important details about the world Building
@FlightX101
@FlightX101 Жыл бұрын
Yea you need to watch the pilot which occurred before episode 1 lol
@chasewilson6223
@chasewilson6223 Жыл бұрын
1:16 I love Nicki Minaj
@TheAlphaJayShow
@TheAlphaJayShow Жыл бұрын
Pink Friday is underrated
@Meowkid1000
@Meowkid1000 Жыл бұрын
I run an art school’s discord and let me just say vivzie is a rough topic sometimes 💀 I don’t really care how the show does to be honest, but the people in my server are hate watching and talking about how bad it is which imo is probably over exaggerating. I don’t know whether the show is bad or not, I haven’t watched it yet, but with the rise of these indie animations and the lack of separation between creator and media and fans, I don’t want to set aside the time for something because of how much these things are negatively berated. I never wanted to avoid media because of the fandom (I was into Undertale and MHA for godsake, I’ve seen my share of bad fandom), but it’s been a lot easier to these days :/
@ultimateme3049
@ultimateme3049 Жыл бұрын
The hardest part of liking Hotel, is the internet, look i dont engage much with the fandom, i watched the pilot liked it for the animation and for being one of thr first succesful pilots not made by a huge company and on youtube, i kept up with it and Helluva Boss for that reason. I enjoy it, do i consider it perfect? No, but there are plenty of shows i like that also have or had flaws. And my impression on the controversy and general discourse around it, is thag people are acting like morons. I've watched a lot of critiques of the show amd a huge chunk of them dont even talk about the issues they just bitch about nitpicked things that can be answered within the show, or want to completely change the show'a identity. Also the amount of hate thrown to the creator, idk who Viv is, i dont follow her, i dont really care, but jesus a lot of people act and insult her as if she was an slave owner or something like that. Then i follow the rabbit hole of rumours to find a huge chunk are just baseless and fake. I do understand genuine criticism i mean i have it myself but whenever i see huge videos with titles like "the problem with Vivzie pop amd Hazbin Hotel" i can't help but roll my eyes. Like peeps let the show finish and then talk. Don't be weird.
@MegatruxFR
@MegatruxFR 9 ай бұрын
I honestly feel like it relies to much on swearing and adult jokes sometimes. My sisters love this show, and i like the idea and the art style, but tbh sometimes they just say like 5 swear words in 1 sentence and its just not funny in my opinion.
@AutumnPinkyKat
@AutumnPinkyKat 8 ай бұрын
My sister loves this show too, and I love the art style, but I can't seem to really find many reasons to actually watch it. Besides, I'm uncomfortable with shows that rely on being super s3xual. It's sad, because I don't normally find a lot of shows that are so unique in their art styles, but this show is (for me anyway) uncomfortable for me to watch. :I
@MegatruxFR
@MegatruxFR 8 ай бұрын
@@AutumnPinkyKat yeah, i relate
@ShadeMeadows
@ShadeMeadows Жыл бұрын
*IT'S SO DARN AWESOME THO.*
@emenefer
@emenefer Жыл бұрын
I really like the show, except for the musical bits, but that's a personal thing. I actually think Angeldust is WAY more tolerable in the show than the pilot. Vaggie too. Idk all the characters seem more likeable in the Amazon show. Character design of the bartender and radio demon still bug me, but are a little smoother looking in the show.
@chrisdevine4364
@chrisdevine4364 Жыл бұрын
Angel dusts "reprimand" was EXTREMELY uncomfortable and I loved it. It felt so real and depressing
@skyneko136
@skyneko136 Жыл бұрын
Viv shouldn't be allowed to write anymore because everyone agrees the show is too fast paced and the whole "who killed the angel" bit was shown in the very next episode
@Z3RO5286
@Z3RO5286 Жыл бұрын
What if she improves during season 2 or the next episodes?
@jojomuppet1820
@jojomuppet1820 Жыл бұрын
​@@Z3RO5286I think some don't have much faith in it given they will probably do the same thing. I'll definitely watch a few episodes of season 2 to give it the benefit of doubt. If i see no change from season 1 I'm sadly going to have to drop the show. And will just enjoy watching others enjoy it instead. Least it'll be some joyment in seeing others have fun with it.
@ShetlandShanty
@ShetlandShanty Жыл бұрын
She might be forced to pace things fast because it needs to be fit in a certian number of episodes. I mean, It's highly unlikely amazon was just like "oh you want 10 seasons and a movie? go ahead." also I just don't see the point in adding filler episodes for the sake of filler.
@LuznoLindo
@LuznoLindo Жыл бұрын
That could've been a mystery for the whole season.
@lilpumpkin7135
@lilpumpkin7135 Жыл бұрын
This show has nothing bad to it. It’s hell. So. It’s fucking realistic
@Oreo-kv4gc
@Oreo-kv4gc Жыл бұрын
It's a fictional cartoon charlie ect Don't exist in the bible at and it not irl Bible accurate at all god and god son jesus know what hell and heaven is to.
@lilpumpkin7135
@lilpumpkin7135 Жыл бұрын
@@Oreo-kv4gc your mom is a fictional cartoon. also. if you dont like it. dont watch it maybe?😄
@kat0na_cat
@kat0na_cat Жыл бұрын
My thought exactly.
@Oreo-kv4gc
@Oreo-kv4gc Жыл бұрын
@@lilpumpkin7135 you're is to
@shadesslitz
@shadesslitz Жыл бұрын
Why are you defending this show lol?
@reberee677
@reberee677 Жыл бұрын
Try not to forget this takes place in Hell. There's going to be a lot of cursing and raunchiness in Hell. Also sense in this universe Heaven and Angels aren't necessarily good you can let that stuff slide with them. Mainly because the ones that do/say those things are being corrupted by the act of killing Demons every year and getting worse every time. (The corruption is a popular fan theory not yet confirmed.) But most importantly the show was made to express and work through the creators trauma. Angel is the main character used for this actually. I don't understand the identity comment. You can like something and choose to defend it without it "being your personality" and not just that... A thing being your personality isn't how that works. It can become a Part Of your personality. You don't become the thing. Or at least I haven't met anyone like that. You can connect to something and personally identify to or with it but that's not the same thing as what you implied. If the cursing and raunchiness aren't for you that's ok. But it is an Important Part of the show and doesn't take away or impede substance. At least not in my opinion. I guess I just wanna say that I respectfully disagree with almost everything you said. At the same time I want to know what you will think in future videos so I'm going to subscribe.
@crem-crem4070
@crem-crem4070 Жыл бұрын
I love Nifty, she’s comic relief I actually find funny I find nothing about Sir Pentious funny
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