Sure, there's an 8-Bit Suika Game now

[@diegospatti7859]

The chaotic nature of this game makes me think that the ultimate suika should have a customizable bouyancy

[@zachlewis9751]

Oh god. The perfect suika, pieces can go from the weight of an anvil or a helium balloon.

[@tylercoon1791]

I remember Jacob saying that his perfect suika would have a strength throw slider or something like that

[@ReddestRosa]

Suika shapes has that!

[@ReddestRosa]

@@tylercoon1791suika shapes also has that 😭

[@leonmccann3907]

Maybe a mode where the bigger the fruit, the lighter it is so cherries and strawberries would just carve through and plummet to the bottom while pushing everything out of the way

[@Omonomogon]

"Let's be patient," says Jacob *proceeds to drop 30 fruit in the span of 10 seconds*

[@sinom]

As someone who's made a circle stacking physics prototype in pico-8 before this is really difficult to actually get running at decent performance for more than 10 circles. All the bouncing is probably necessary to be able to get this running at more than 5 FPS lol

[@sakarain]

when i recognized this was pico-8 i was curious about the technical side, thanks for the insight

[@dran0nym0u5]

Fun fact: if you look up suika game the top result is a phishing hack that will try to infect your computer.

[@deli_9697]

Based

[@labeastmode25]

My bad

[@lovelylavender67]

Why can't they just link the game

[@peng5997]

wait...how do i check if i have been phished yet?

[@williamdavidm.l6665]

​@@peng5997Use VirusTotal.

[@selfloathinggameing]

Once Suika Month finishes we need the Suikalike Tier List

[@xraenon1664]

I don’t think they’ve played a tier list maker yet…

[@fugyfruit]

They mentioned already that they'll be doing a tier list of every game they've played this year

[@123Jsimskie]

they're already doing a full year tier list that'd be redundant

[@FafliXx]

@@fugyfruit Since that would include every Suika-like, it would double as a Suika tier list

[@FletcherGaddy]

Loving Jacob’s Pokemon brainrot conditioning him into saying Passimian instead of persimmon, felt that

[@TEBArceus]

oh thank god i'm not the only one who noticed that-

[@freezeburn9875]

I think a really cool Suika idea would be one that starts with watermelon and fuses in reverse so the ultimate goal becomes to get a cherry

[@table2.0]

This game really solves the “making sure the shapes can move” issue XD

[@PenelopeNaomi]

I like that they didn't realize each piece has an amount of magnetism and that's why they move so much and pull at each other and go weird.

[@daveslamjam]

i didn't realize that either because that's not what i would've expected

[@splubber99]

Cap

[@danang5]

yeah i noticed that too, the movement isnt random, its toward the same piece, thats how the piece far apart can fuse seemingly easily

[@splubber99]

17:00

[@bosstowndynamics5488]

That's not the reason they constantly bounce though, the Touhou Suika had loads of magnetism and that didn't bounce constantly

[@strawberryqueen0382]

I want everyone to know I usually have these Suika weeks on while eating dinner. When Jacob CLUTHED with the grape I fully put down my meal to be entranced in this game in a way no other Suika has made me before. Now I have cold mac and cheese but I wouldn’t trade it for anything else. Edit: I reheated my Mac and Cheese! :3

[@manjackson2772]

That's awesome that you reheated your cold mac and cheese

[@strawberryqueen0382]

@@manjackson2772it felt like an important piece of information to include

[@internetguy7319]

mac and cheese :3

[@manjackson2772]

​@@strawberryqueen0382no for sure it was, I was so done when I thought the mac and cheese was cold but then I saw the reheat and I was like we're so back

[@Kiwibr_o]

Cheered upon hearing you reheated your mac and cheese

[@Boomerkbom57]

I think the reason the fruit are so bouncy in this one is because Pico-8 does not have it's own physics engine and the engine is specifically designed to be limited (With the whole limitation brews innovation thing). And when it comes to making a physics system in an engine that doesn't have a one, if you don't know what you're doing the best you can do is "Am I in a thing? Yes? Get me out of there.", and since everything is touching everything they are constantly entering and exiting each other, causing the bouncing.

[@SemiHypercube]

Apparently in this one you can actually see the hitboxes, it's in the pause menu also leaf transition at 38:20

[@Mysticshade59]

64 bits...32 bits...16 bits, 8 bits, 4 bits, 2 BITS, 1 BIT, HALF BIT We can have as many suika bits as possible!

[@tylercoon1791]

THE WATERMELON GAAAAAAME!!!

[@galagatorgames1317]

Best suika, in my opinion. This one feels just as good to play as it does to watch

[@noa_1104]

the pixel ones like this have by far the nicest combination of interface elements and the actual game (with the pixel text and all), so they actually look the most polished to me… really nice work by the dev

[@salenna6840]

idk why, but watching all the fruits jumping around just bring me so much joy. Great addition to the suika-like genre

[@jstar3382]

The issue with the momentum seems like fruits don't lose it over time, only when they impact other ones. So the force isn't loss unless there's a match, so something small stuck at the bottom essentially becomes this supercharged gear that continually spins faster and faster, occasionally making things around it spin Edit: ok I guess the gear metaphor was closer than i thought. Small things going at a decent rpm translate that exact rpm to something larger, and the larger one just gets more force and fucks your run

[@Lorraine202]

It also seems like there’s magnetism involved which makes the movement even more chaotic. The way fruits “miraculously” fly across the screen to combine with and the relative calmness when there’s only unique fruits makes me feel like a code is implemented to keep fruits that can be combined moving and draw them unnaturally towards each other. But with all the fruits fighting each other it just becomes a bouncy house of unnatural force.

[@kikiretzorg1467]

Elastic fruit

[@designator7402]

Considering that this is pico-8 I can almost promise you that the spinning of the fruit is purely visual. There is absolutely no way that they implemented rotational friction and torque transfer in what is essentially Basic. Heck, they had to "cheat" with the collision detection to get it to run at a decent frame rate.

[@jstar3382]

​@@designator7402the spinning is just visual but it does show the momentum the fruit has. The faster spinning ones knocking things farther

[@terrariaskeletonpre1.0.39]

@@kikiretzorg1467 this is an unintentional one piece reference

[@DRElliott]

If you guys create a Suika-like tier list then we can finally create the ultimate Suika-like, where the evolution just goes through all the different Suika-likes and ends on the Watermelon from the original. Once you create a tier list I'll be all over making something like that.

[@fili7476]

Just to clear things up about the pear: I'm pretty sure the "yellow cheese blocks" in regular suika are supposed to be nashis (aka japanese pear) 😂

[@xXGraylyResurectedXx]

I feel like the Suika game genre is burned into my mind now. I have never played the original and yet from watching these videos I have an extensive tier list of which Suikalikes are good and which aren’t.

[@SuikaIbukiDouji]

This game is like chaos theory. Everything follows a set of rules, yet you can never be sure how it will turn out

[@JoryGoof]

The little smile I let out at 21:52 when Jacob said passimian instead of persimmon c: Our nuzlocke king 👑 Edit: 24:34 😅

[@NaughtyBearforthexbox360andps3]

We are going back to the snes retro era. Still 3 generations of consoles away from Naughty Bear for the xbox360 and ps3

[@jstar3382]

Never give up, they have to at some point

[@doughboywhine]

I think SNES was a 16 bit console, which is still less bits than Naughty Bear sequels they should have made

[@dominicgilmore3844]

"i cannot imagine a suika harder than that one" Oh, the bliss of not knowing what came next

[@sarang-archer]

I just realized how often Jo calls the merging 'kissing' and I appreciate it a lot

[@aaronturnbull6528]

I would LOVE a "best moments" compilation from Gold this year

[@umbre2360]

Now that we've gotten so many good suikas in a row I feel the need to get people into Suika month but I already know I'll look crazy telling them "No I swear it gets GOOD"

[@Stevonicus]

This kind of real-time, dynamic particle simulation really demands the highest caliber of computing power

[@Fishmen64]

if I gold viewers were sinking in quicksand and Jo and Jacob could save us by playing naughty bear they wouldn't

[@Leonagraphy]

Alpharad: drops fruit Fruit: *Helicopter, Helicopter*

[@AdventurersAlmanac]

This feels like a Suika gacha game. Everything feels "just in reach" to make you want to keep playing.

[@juanalvarado4723]

It’s like this Suika heard you guys say “these are not moving at all” in the past games, and took that as a challenge

[@essojadojef]

Hi Alpha, hi Jo. Second day of suggesting my own suika clone, Watermelon Monsters on Itch. Just in case you haven't decided yet the last suika game. Also can't wait to see what you prepared for december.

[@AustinGays]

The chest is way too big and all the pieces moving makes it insufferable. Make the mimic higher level or dont let it eat pieces higher tier than it.

[@ASuddenRose]

The difference over 9 seconds between 41:01 and 41:10 is staggering

[@OzTheEnby]

I tried this game out, and I have to admit that spamming in a corner is a lot more effective than I would've guessed.

[@lemonpringlesdoodles]

19:56 They really saying this like they don’t know the clouds name is Popo 💀💀💀

[@Kat_a_Nova]

36:50 the chaotic foreshadowing

[@eclipsekaos6548]

Fr

[@gameholddb]

We had 0 movement Suika, now we have MAX movement Suika. It's all coming together.

[@KaunaKayla]

im not ready for it to end imma be honest

[@3twibles4sweetrevenge]

Don't dread the future matey ☠️🏴‍☠️

[@whyfishonheadyt3408]

alpha says “passimion” like the pokémon when he means persimmon and i think that’s hilarious

[@iobjection]

You should host a suika-like 24 hr game jam for charity

[@_talouf]

the 8bit sound font is so cute i love it

[@BoomBoy64]

I think the 1v1 suika was probably the best gameplay wise but this was certainly the most entertaining suika to watch

[@sqronce]

The suika gods have smiled upon us today.

[@terrariaskeletonpre1.0.39]

boy, these fruits were so bouncy and rubbery, i thought they were going to go into gear 4th : bound man!

[@ckafi1011]

This was weirdly stressful

[@pideperdonus2]

Pico8 is such a great game engine. Great games came out of this.

[@bb010g]

Fantasy consoles are sick in general

[@thatisjustwhatisaid]

This should just be called "Entropy the game"

[@Spyridon1337]

I wish YIIK: A Postmodern RPG had a Suika game

[@mertoslav4606]

suyiika

[@jstar3382]

Do not wish this into existence

[@caseycampbell]

Looks like the fruit was kind of going towards each matching color.

[@chillmadude]

i think it's programed so that the center of the fruit needs to go above the line in order to lose

[@Guitargoddess843]

The way Jacob can't pronounce Persimmon is wild to me... He says puss-simian and I can't stop laughing at the mental image. (per-sim-min)

[@birdiestella2818]

This game makes my anxiety spike like crazy.

[@Boxish]

This past suika week has had many bangers, fruit salad, touhou, and pico8 all seem top tier suikas

[@jswp5]

One thing every suika game seems to get wrong is the lose condition. You shouldn’t lose by reaching the top of the box, you should lose when the fruit actually begins to overflow and fall out of the box. Imagine the plays you could pull off if they gave the player that extra bit of room

[@slime-time]

this game is a particle physics simulator

[@KillaCheeto56]

This is the most volitile Suika and I love it.

[@williefleete]

The fruit between apple and peach in OG suika is a nashi pear (Japanese pear).

[@Sammyz_Official]

36:49 the fact that jo unintentionally foreshadowed suikarad gold with this line is hilarious

THE OFFICIAL SUIKA GAME WIKIPEDIA PAGE SAYS "The game also became prone to unofficial versions being created, affectionately termed "suikalikes"."

[@ProfessorXenoblade]

11:30 The pineapple needs to fly WHERE?

[@SpoikeTube]

Thanks for playing my demake! Whenever I get to update the game to "fix" the physics, I'll keep the jittery physics as an option as it seems everyone has a love/hate relationship with it.

[@DirectorOfChaos9292]

Did you make the fruit magnetize to each other?

[@SpoikeTube]

@@DirectorOfChaos9292 nope. the jittery physics end up jiggling the fruits through gaps and slide around a lot that they merge by themselves. I'm not really sure why friction doesn't seem to work that well in this physics engine the game is using.

[@MariKyuu]

Alpharad Gold hit the Lucky Triple 3s! I was hoping he'd celebrate by playing Yandere Simulator 1980s Mode up to Rival 3. The floor must be covered in the blue Portal 2 gel. YanSim Fun Fact: If Kizana entered a relationship with Senpai, she'd turn him into an actor.

[@discodog4582]

the way these fruits were being tossed around like it’s fruit salad just made it that much more tense, honestly one of the most stressful suikas to watch you guys play yet, extremely entertaining

[@v1c4r10u5]

I teach kids aged 6-15 who are OBSESSED with suika game and who don't speak English so wouldn't find out about this game. Do you realize I have the chance for the prank of a lifetime??

[@NOODLE9231]

Whenever I hear suika, I can only think of the one from dr. Stone

[@radiantburrito]

Day 333 of asking Alpharad Gold to play Cosmic Collapse, a suika-like by Johan Peitz available on itch for $4.95

[@Dannysaurus606]

Tierlist of suika-likes when??

[@ZoraEpsilon571]

So it's absolutely based on where the center of a piece is it looks like, if a cherry pops up you're done it's just immediately over, same with most medium sized fruits but the watermelon has a lot more give because it's so much bigger and the center of it is all that matters this one looks really fun and a lot more challenging but when things just bounce into place it's so much more hype than it has any right to be for a suika game

[@DexusCh]

This suika version has to be the most bouncy version i've seen

[@AndrewCunninghamFan]

Day 6 of reminding Alpharad about his "funny story" that he needs to tell Twitch chat No i didnt forget the last three days shhh....

[@isakts8576]

why did jo become SpongeBob sad sound effect at the end

[@sparky6757]

Somehow you've made me watch you play the same fruit game for two weeks, and I don't even think suika is entertaining in a vacuum

[@Yipper64]

its interesting to see the different solutions to how to make this game fun. The Touhou game had similar sprites attracted to eachother with a smaller than their size hitbox, this game just removes friction as a factor entirely.

[@laty6169]

My heart has never beat so hard while watching suika

[@maxzur8500]

I hope at the end of the year Jacob and Joe release an actual montage of all the insane clips that made them say “Colin add this to the montage”

[@meganhammer7857]

constantly moving fruits is how i feel all the time

[@Ferniiq]

I love how chaotic this one is. It's the exact opposite of the Suikas with stiff fruits.

[@nathanb011]

I wonder if it's so bouncy because the physics timestep is dependent on framerate and his framerate is way higher than the dev's

[@starryskies279]

This was one of the best suikas. I was on the edge of my seat so much. It's so stressful!😂

[@matthewsteigauf470]

Suika month has been a super interesting lesson in game design ngl

[@wify0241]

Something about that "end of suika week...3" had some menacing energy

[@bartman64]

Having pinball-style tilt control would be a perfect addition to a Suika-like

[@quinn8996]

This is like suika in zero G

[@edene5493]

thank you for playing touhou suika

[@Tim8Bit]

I gotta play this.

[@vaehtay]

They legitimately haven’t been this psyched for a watermelon in so long… so happy for them

[@jacobhumphries1416]

Someone made a “anime suika” fan game based on alpharad gold and that trashy anime game company. They posted on the alpharad reddit

[@miph_awesome]

I can't believe they turned Suika into a psychological horror game

[@bensoncheung2801]

The developer oiled this demake up *good.*

[@gayhsbsbsh3032]

He forgot it’s jover

[@N1shikki]

This suika game makes me happy, it's just a joyful one. Probably the one I had the most fun watching!

[@bb010g]

It's like your game is acting out a slapstick comedy in front of you

[@felixcohen1247]

In this game "let them cook" is just refering to the fruits, not the player

[@spookylolbit]

jacob's nervous laughter over the fruit physics has me DYING

[@thegreatBarbossa]

Ight so who's hyped for suika year next january?

[@dianaweber7162]

That was intense

[@treeco262]

This video had me on the edge of my seat

[@ImNotJonni]

The fruit do be stumblin and tumblin tho

[@nicolasjamo]

I really wonder what people can do to innovate on Suika. Without checking, my guess is that there will be a Suika Space Invaders game, a Suika 2D platformer like Mario on NES, and a Suika sports game.

[@Furen]

Jacob: How did we get here? Me: Podcast comeback?

[@bobboberson8297]

each new video that they mispronounce suika as "sweeka" in it gets funnier to me

[@manjackson2772]

How do you pronounce it then

[@drmeanie]

How do you think it's pronounced?

[@daveslamjam]

wait how is it pronounced

[@audreythe23rd]

​​@@daveslamjamI'm pretty sure it's pronounced s-oo-ee-ka, though sweeka is so similar that its hard to tell the difference between the pronunciations.

[@Flamewarden_Honoushugoshin]

??? That's literally how スイカ sounds in Japanese unless you are deliberately drawing out pronunciation of the kana "su" and "i" for emphasis. ス/す almost never gets fully pronounced with a full ウ/う sound in casual speech, and lone vowel kana like い/イ usually get melded into the leading kana's phoneme. You could say they say it with a bit of an American accent, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it's a significant mispronunciation. Taking issue with that would be like insisting on not only using the more formal です and ますverb endings, but fully pronouncing the kana as 2 separate syllables, which just makes you sound like you are doing a comedic bit. Listen to pretty much any native speaker say Japanese "sui" and it will sound like English "swee" unless they have a very particular dialect.