Samsung Galaxy S20 FE Screen Repair - ANYBODY can do this

Display replacement on this Samsung galaxy S20 FE will require at least an hour to do everything from start to the end. The screen is broken but the display panels are not we could replace the glass only but that process is more complex and requires more experience.
The display replacement on this S20fe is simple and you will be require to remove all the components out of the broken screen and frame to transfer all of them into the new framed screen.
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[@ersbit]

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[@STRUMMERBOY1975]

After watching what's involved, it is not likely that many people will try this.. Holy Moly!! 😳😁

[@H.hipster]

Man !! Your channel is so cool! I love it

[@ersbit]

Woo-hoo Glad that you liked it👍🏽

[@cordlowrey226]

Thank you for the info. This made my repair so much easier.

[@ersbit]

You're welcome 😊

[@dickwhittington7321]

Great video, clear and very easy to understand. Thank you!

[@ersbit]

You're welcome 👋🏽

[@joelrobert2348]

Thank you! its like a new phone now. everything works perfectly

[@ersbit]

🤣🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 Super Happy everything went well. Like you said (best way to have your device new again) 👍🏽

[@karenlange7974]

Thank you so much!! Excellent instructions!

[@ersbit]

You're welcome 👋🏽. Thanks for the kind words 👍🏽

[@justaman553]

Good morning sir. Good job, thanks to your help I was able to fix my phone. Best video on the internet 👏 👌🏿

[@ersbit]

Thanks brother 👋🏽👍🏽

[@justinmoyo6959]

Excellent instructions. Thank you so much

[@ersbit]

Glad it was helpful!

[@proveau7]

Great video, thanks! I may try this however the replacement screens I have seen for sale all pretty much have bad reviews except expensive oem ones which make it too expensive for a two year old phone! IMHO

[@ersbit]

Yeah it's how it is. Getting oem quality is basically too much. Better getting a new phone if you can

[@ersbit]

Galaxy S21 FE Screen Replacement, Body and Back Cover kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXzTqoygd9qWebM

[@kkaye76]

I sure wish you were local. I'm not seeing myself replacing this. 😕 Although if I had a couple extra phones to practice on, I'm sure I could do it. Lol. Thanks for sharing a great video!

[@ersbit]

You're welcome 👋🏽. Hope you finds someone who can do it for you 😄

[@realskata16]

Hello fixers! You can use a few drops of 91% isopropyl alcohol to help remove battery if it’s being stubborn with just heat. It will keep you from having to pry very hard

[@ersbit]

True, the alcohol can help. I dont like it but it makes things easy !

[@kcastillo1234]

Also try not to use metal tools to pry the battery

[@Guide4Ever]

Where can I get that DIY replacement kit with automatic screwdriver thingy?

[@kiokokies3953]

My S20 FE has a minor crack on below the lcd panel of the navigation bar. But the display and touchscreen still work perfectly fine. Is it okay if I just re-install a full screen tempered glass to cover and protect the crack from dirt and moisture?

[@ersbit]

Yes. But you'll still have the Crack glass. You can either replace the whole screen or attempt to remove the glass only and replace it. Doing that is very risky and might damage the screen panels

[@richarddstephens]

@ersbit Did you find that the new replacement screen's fingerprint reader was the same as the OEM reader? Was the new screen reader just as responsive as the old one?

[@ersbit]

Yes. The screen was good. Everything worked as it it supposed to be. The screen will come with the fingerprint alredy embedded. You just need to make sure that the device is compatible with yours. Us version or International version they are a little bit different because of the 5G antennas.

[@CuriousFunguy]

Removing antenna cable with spudger at the connexion site rather than yanking probably makes your hardware happpier. Also I strongly discourage using a hard steel sharp surgical blade to do anything on very delicate board and cables with electric parts at microscopic distances away, that can be knocked off very easily with a little excess force or a slip, which I noticed you employ at several instances. Also the hard steel has a high risk of scratching the coating on the board and parts. Use plastic instead please. Spudgers give you a lever-like shape , they're softer because they're made out of plastic and they give you pointy end.

[@JJ-oo9xi]

if im really gentle and i take my time do you think i can do this (im a bit clumsy and a little impatient) my phone still makes sounds but the screen is black.

[@icandodgebullets7869]

I recently upgraded to a sim only plan as i wanted to keep the s20fe and keep monthly cost down. I got a quote of £160 including labour charge from a repair shop. I think it is worth it as i intend to keep the phone for duration of the sim plan which is 24 months. When it comes to upgrading the contract in 24 months time i will have a better choice in smartphone as the technology jump will be greater. But to be honest a lot of friends, relations and work colleagues opt to go purchase a sim only plan and then buy the smartphone outright from a retail outlet as that can work out cheaper in the long run.

[@ersbit]

True buy outright is better. You can resell the phone anytime and upgrade. You're not bound by any contract!

[@lamandapanda]

Where do we get the replacement part? I'm trying to decide if the phone screen is worth fixing or if I should just suck it up and buy a new phone at this point.

[@ersbit]

You can get the replacement parts from Amazon or eBay. Depends on your nearby future plan lol are you wanting to upgrade if yes you can just get rid of this and get a new device instead of buying a new screen. The screen will go maybe around 200 usd

[@ersbit]

Try to see if you can get maximum value on trade in

[@kcspees]

Hi yor video was GREAT! I got to the part where you turn it back on and it showed the charging symbol for 10 seconds, then went black. Now it just does a quick flicker of light and nothing happens. Any suggestions?

[@ersbit]

Hi, the easiest is to disconnect all the flex cables then reconnect them again. Then try to see if the issues goes away that would mean it was just a bad connection on one of the cables. If you have the same issue reassemble everything on your old display/frame to see if the issue is now present on the old screen if no issues something is wrong with the new screen. Try to plugged everything including the wireless charger then try to charge and turn on (some of the devices have issues when the wireless charging coil is not connected) it has a temp sensor (the motherboard might be reading to charge or turn on) this happend to my S20 Plus and since the S20fe is basically same thing different body it might be a thing on the FE too.

[@liberdelta]

So those kits with just the screen won't work? You have to buy the version with the digitzer as well?

[@ersbit]

No the screen will work. Just make sure it's compatible with your model, US version or International version. In this video everything went well. The screen was replaced and the device worked as it should.

[@no_cap2499]

Hey I would like to know if this new screen supports 120hz and if finger print works flawlessly? Also is thia actually super amoled screen or is it just lcd?

[@ersbit]

I believe this was lcd screen. 120hz is supported natively but if the screen is not the same spec as original it won't do it. If the screen was pulled from another S20fe it will work and do 120hz. Everything should work fine including the fingerprint sensor.

[@Dr904]

Hey. Do you know if the 4G and 5G variants have interchangeable parts? Like, could I use a screen meant for the 5G version on the 4G version?

[@ersbit]

No they are not interchange. I assume as they changes things slightly to avoid backward compatibility.

[@sparkiichief1261]

a few questions , what kind of glue are you using? and where did you buy it? thanks in advance ♥

[@ersbit]

On the back I usually use b7000 glue to reinforce the back if the double sided tape is not really good or sticky

[@sparkiichief1261]

@@ersbit thank you a million 🤍

[@tomaskauer]

@@sparkiichief1261 keef omi will again check laAda OK

[@ElemennoP]

make it look so easy..nice one..I'd have enough bits for two phones if I tried that..🥺😂

[@ersbit]

🤣🤣 if you try once you'll see that it's just intimidating not difficult and rather easy 😁

[@warrrr7627]

Hello, if you could help me out I'd deeply appreciate it, after an unfortunate event my S20 FE got severe water damage and the IP68 couldn't handle it. Just after the incident I took the phone back out, spun the phone to try to use centrifugal force to take out the water from the screen part of the phone, dried as much as I could but I didn't have the tools at the time to open it up to dry better so instead I put it in a ziplock bag with a silica gel pack. After 48 hours the screen and the phone itself are working perfectly but I have none touchscreen. Zero. Do you think it's possible to maybe fix this? Try to mess with the digitizer or whatever. Or do you think I need to replace the whole screen? Thank you a lot.

[@ersbit]

Fixing a none working screen would be difficult unless you find a shop that can check the panel and change a component. I do not know how to start or fix it when the digitizer is bad or not working. The easiest way would be to replace the screen as I did in the video. Water damage it's luck if you dont dry everything or the battery cable is still on for long after the water damage it might cause a problem.

[@jayaprakash4774]

Where I can get original display

[@caachavideo]

Hello, my phone have rhe screen broken just like this video at the courner but the screen not work. The LCD is not broken i think but whats would happning?

[@ersbit]

Oh if the glass is broken, the display doesn't respond unfortunately at that point you will need to replace the screen. Perform a screen replacement like I did in thus video

[@joeydivino4233]

is it still submersible or water proof after the replacement?

[@ersbit]

Hey the answer is don't risk it "it's complicated" kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKrTdWR-mrGLmas this explains and test a device after repair like you asked

[@oxcart4172]

Thanks

[@ersbit]

Great. Thank you Boss 🙃

[@silvanpauls3466]

What could i have done wrong if the screen lighted up once i connected the phone to the charger but then flickered in blue and now doesnt show anything anymore? thx for your help

[@ersbit]

Hi hope you figure out the issue. You should remove the screen and reinstall the screen flex cable then try again to see if it start working again. If it does not work reinstall the old screen to see if it works. If it does the new screen might be bad. Just return it and get a new screen.

[@Keitumetsemulaudzi]

Hi good video. Why is that s20 fe having a shiny back? The one I have is Matt

[@ersbit]

Really? I thought they all had plastic glossy shiny back covers

[@johnnyderpson5881]

I just replaced my screen and still not displaying anything at all. although it vibrates whenever I press power button, as well as when forcing the phone to restart using volume down + power. It's like my phone is running in background, but not showing anything at all. Do you have any idea which specific part of the phone I should replace?

[@ersbit]

1- was the phone with the old screen working (not black even if the phone was broken)? Yes. Screen was working even broken (the new screen might be defective) - try checking all the flex cables make sure they are all disconnected and reconnected and fully pressed in then try to turn the phone on with the new screen attach (if still the same black screen then the screen might be bad) 2- same issue with old screen as new one (stay black) you might have a problem on the motherboard which is one big piece and should be replace or you find a shop that is willing to test the motherboard and find the micro component broken/damage and replace it. It require microsoldering etc...it's advanced stuff.

[@johnnyderpson5881]

@@ersbit I am still trying to figure it out, right now display only showing when I am putting a pressure to the back directly where the display flex is, it looks perfectly fine. However, after samsung logo. Either the screen is flickering or does not go through booting up. It seems like it is more than just a screen at this point, but motherboard or something. might as well get a new one you think?

[@zqii2292]

im wondering if i should upgrade to an s23 or keep this and fix it(it has many issues but mostly the screen and battery need to be replaced) do u have any idea what i should do?

[@shaundavidssd]

This is a repair video ,??? Is he reviewing??

[@zqii2292]

i know its a repair video and i have this exact same phone

[@ersbit]

I'd say upgrade if you want a S-Pen experience coupled with a top battery life and improved camera. If you don't value fancy features lol you can replace repair your S20fe and wait for the S24 ultra.

[@zqii2292]

@@ersbit alr ty man :D

[@Smilja-zx1bk]

If my old broken screen is not presenting the screen and if i raplave if with a new screen and do this what you did with your is my mobile going to turn on

[@juliana22]

Hi. My Samsung s20 fe suddenly has a purple spot on the corner, it started spreading. Everything still works perfectly. I did not drop my phone, no water damage either. Any recommendations? Does it need a new screen or could it be something else?

[@ersbit]

The way you explain it it will need a new screen similar to what I did in the video

[@jollywoodtrauncles233]

I have had the same problem with this phone three times. This a common problem if this happens again, either get different S20fe.

[@jollywoodtrauncles233]

Third party sreecn replacements cause this problem when dropped.

[@kuma8030]

@@jollywoodtrauncles233 mine spreaded like a wildfire dog. it went from a itty bitty tiny little purplish spot to full on black and purple in 20 hrs. its freakish

[@spex_7562]

The screen is is lcd but the original screen is amoled is there difference quality?

[@ersbit]

Difference will be primarily based on your sensitivity. These new lcds are very close to the original screen quality

[@jeffersonsuarez4146]

Hola buen día disculpa una duda, mi S20 Fe se me cayó a un rio y lo lleve a que le den mantenimiento por el agua que se introdujo en el interior en lo cual al encender daba pantallazos blancos y me recomendaron cambiar la pantalla y bateria que se habian estropeado. Queria preguntarle si es factible gastar en que me lo arreglen o preferible comprar otro ya que tengo miedo de que al arreglarlo queden fallas por ejemplo las cámaras, altavoces o microfono :(

[@tarinforeman]

Recomendaría buscar en el mercado de Facebook o eBay para uno usado suavemente que venden alrededor de $ 200 a $ 300 USD. Cuesta $ 150 a $ 250 para reemplazar las piezas dependiendo de dónde lo lleve, por lo que será mejor que compre uno. :)

[@S3piocomputersCanada]

My friend to remove the battery don't used metal and don't used heat used contact cleaner

[@ersbit]

Ok. True it can be dangerous. Careful with metal tools

[@segounlocks5029]

I only disagree with battery. I wouldn't let it bend that much. I would use alcohol and a heat plate it will kill adhesive and come right up. Just try it

[@ersbit]

True agreed. Best practice want to avoid bending batteries as much as possible!

[@segounlocks5029]

@@ersbit first KZbinr that would actually agree with someone in the comments. Most people always wanna be right. I had 15 years in the repair and unlock business. But I switched over to automotive locksmith. The key business pays more and it's less headache. Keys work or they don't work. A repair tech can only be as good as the parts there using. I got tired of doing warranty work because of AM screens going bad. Also without corning gorilla glass, they break too easily.

[@andrewwaite756]

I have done this, my phone vibrates and I can hear audio, and the PC even picks it up when plugged in, but the screen is still black. Is this a faulty display part I've been sent or is there something I could have missed to cause this?

[@ersbit]

It's just like in the video it should work immediately nothing extra I did. Either the screen sent is bad or you have an issue with the board on the device. Also before you replaced the screen did the old screen light up show colors and brightness etc.....?

[@andrewwaite756]

@@ersbit No the old screen was fully black because it was damaged. I believe the sent screen is just faulty

[@andrewwaite756]

@@ersbit Ok now I'm stuck. Another new frame and screen came and still no display. The motherboad has also been replaced so know it can't be that. No idea why but cannot get the screen to display anything

[@ersbit]

Ok. If there's nothing lighting up on the old screen it's hard to know if it was before or now. You can ask the screen seller to make sure they had tested the unit before sending it to you. Let them know that when connected the screen is not working.

[@ersbit]

So the motherboard has been replaced too??? You need to inspect the flex cables make sure none is bad or have a small cut. At this stage you need to troubleshoot piece by piece and try to thing something thats out of place. First the phone does it charge? Vibrate when plugged in? Then after pressing the power button does it turn on? If you turn it in you can try and hdmi to see if the board is working and the fault is only the screen and screen components. After replacing things if you are stuck you try elimination process and if you cannot figure out seek help from a repair shop.(Put everything together and let them to their diagnosis). Or you just go directly to them to see what they can find that you didn't.

[@Danie3lz]

Hi I did exactly like you but my screen is still black the teflon itself is working and there is a vibration, it was like that before but also after the screen replacement the same thing do you have any ideas? Once I was able to see a download mode but only once

[@ersbit]

Did you enter download mode with the old screen or new screen?....since you have the new screen there (check the connections to make sure every is plugged corrected) then try to turn on or charge to see if the screen light up. If nothing happens 1 it can be a bad flex cable 2 bad motherboard / something is wrong in there

[@Danie3lz]

@@ersbit yeah in the new one maybe it’s really the motherboard but it’s weird that I saw download once one

[@ersbit]

Oh ok if it the new screen it might be the motherboard but still can be the flex cable (screen). If you checked and tested again and nothing happens the motherboard should be the issue.

[@MCCOLDT]

Can i transplant a screen from one phone to another?

[@ersbit]

Yes. The screen I used came from another S20 FE.

[@elabelenn]

Is the Samsung S20fe screen curved?

[@ersbit]

No this one is flat

[@anonimos1211]

What can I use heat it? Can I use hair dryer

[@ersbit]

À Hairdryer will work it will take more time as the heat source is less than a regular heatgun.

[@alphaoneone0917]

Das ist so viel Arbeit, da vergeht einem richtig das Interesse an Samsung...😂

[@mdrakabju4572]

Pls give the product link...🙏🙏

[@ersbit]

Links are in the description, please let me know if you're having issues 👍🏽

[@NothingToYou-]

S20fe breaks so easily

[@ersbit]

True the screen feel a bit fragile than high end Samsung screens. The back being plastic was after all a good decision

[@stefanking303]

It sure does

[@tapatideb6633]

Very TRUE. My phone also got a hairline crack. It fell from a very little height. It is working fine but I'm confused. Should I change the screen or shall I continue using this

[@BoatsnHoes9]

Agree, I got one on Black Friday and broke it the week after. Paid for Samsung insurance and a replacement, just for the screen to break again a week later. Still functions, probly just gonna use it as much as I can. Can't afford to keep dishing money out for bs products

[@ersbit]

Haha it very fragile. Just get a good case 👍🏽

[@shinraninja]

this work on s20 too or s20 fe different

[@ersbit]

Basically the same process!!

[@kaweah41]

This looks fairly complicated. Too many things could go wrong. Especially the first time doing this. I'd rather pay someone who is familiar and experienced with this process.

[@ersbit]

😅 I thought it was well presented and straightforward. True if someone is not confortable doing it obvious choice would be to seek a shop help. 👍🏽

[@kishorer9101]

Is it still waterproof after screen replacement??

[@ersbit]

Will depend on quality of the parts used. The strength of the double sided tape used also.

[@kishorer9101]

Thank you 🙂

[@elieg.8920]

you can easily destroy something inside if your not experienced, better to bring it to a store

[@ersbit]

🙄seriously I made it very easy. If people watch this twice and a third time while doing it they will 100% complete it. You can always comment if you have issues I'll respond if I got the notification. "If people aren't confortable doing it true it's not worth it just pay someone to do it)

[@lobsterstrange]

Felt like a pro when I saw that screen light up lol

[@ersbit]

Very happy to hear from your experience. 😄 it's an incredible feeling...happend to me when I do teardowns Disassembly right when I get a newly released device 🤣 sometimes there's no videos only at that moment and it's more self-fulfilling when everything went well from Disassembly to Reassembly lol

[@lobsterstrange]

@@ersbit yes thanks a lot u got the best tutorials!

[@artsykilla]

what size scalpel is that?

[@ersbit]

Hi, here's the one I used Green scalpel blade: amzn.to/3y6RF1B I do not really know the size (its a unique size)

[@artsykilla]

@@ersbit when I click the link there is an option for many sizes :/

[@ersbit]

Oh ok. That just the number of scalpel that will be in the box.

[@Vampirizm2021]

Thank you now I'm less nervous about fixing my gf phone😅🤣

[@CantTreadOnMe]

I went into this thinking I can do this on my own then I got like 2 minutes in and was like fuuuuuuuuugggghhhhh my life. No way I can do this myself. Now I gotta pay off my device and get a new one. Damn I love my S20 5g Fe. Its best phone ive ever had and ive had LG flagship phones at double the price! I had the LG G7 Thinq and it sucked ass and was like $950. This S20 was amazing just screen so delicate and even with case and protector I shattered screen the 2nd week I had because my big rig truck phone holder suction came undone and dropped my phone about 3 feet. It lags bad and types like 10x the same letter with 1 press etc and I cant take it anymore!

[@ersbit]

lol its not too hard. If you don't feel comfortable doing it get it fixed or pay off then upgrade 👍🏽

[@CantTreadOnMe]

@@ersbit I paid it off and got S23. Thanks

[@MaxwellLloydEriksen]

Omg why does everything have to be so difficult to fix?

[@ersbit]

😂 trust me this is the easiest. Samsung make it easy and doable compared to Apple

[@dickwhittington7321]

I wouldn't call it difficult considering it's modern technology.

[@ersbit]

Yes it's pretty easy (I'd say normal)

[@cakepower1]

It's actually a reasonable amount of work for a modern android

[@kuma8030]

@@cakepower1 fekts just having 1 unique type of screw is nice as fuck

[@ctie7633]

Watching this on an s20 fe with cracked screen

[@ersbit]

Hahaha your in the right place to get your device fixed

[@ERIC619ism]

Lol, me too.

[@ersbit]

@@ERIC619ism lol welcome hopefully you get all the info you are seeking in the video.

[@ctie7633]

I fixed it thanks to your vid, new battery and back cover to boot!

[@ersbit]

🎉🎉🎉 Thank you for your feedback 🙌🏽🙌🏽

[@m.s.9396]

Never mind, i will just go to the store.

[@ersbit]

okay...I know most people who have watched will not try 🤭. If you're not confortable in doing it just pay someone else to do it (easy)

[@akimiqbalTT]

U open lavender color, and then change all to new one

[@ersbit]

Yes. The customer wanted a new color for his S20fe. While repairing you can customize if you want (frame color and back color)

[@christinedownton2302]

What sort of heat gun are you using and what tools are you using? Many thanks.

[@ersbit]

Hey i have tools in the description! The heatgun doesn't need any fancy setting or power. The heatgun I have is one of the cheapest I got online. As long as you can grab it sweep the area turn on and off quickly it will do it.

[@mambobro]

STOP PRYING WITH METAL TOOLS

[@ersbit]

Humm with experience you can use metal tool. If not experienced use plastic tools.

[@mylesmcc12]

Why did you not show the screen replacement part?

[@ersbit]

What do you you mean screen replacement part? The screen and frame were together or are you talking about something else

[@josephcapra8484]

so basically you have to completely dissassemble this phone to replace the screen...

[@Axolotl_Mischief]

Yeah that's what I gathered from this...doesn't seem worth it unless the phone is seriously damaged beyond use.

[@kuma8030]

with most phones is worse. this is like swaping an engine. while other phones are like changing every single nut in the whole car.

[@peterharrison5116]

Don't force the battery out and bend it like this guy did or you will damage it

[@ersbit]

Am sorry but I have never got a battery damaged like you said. You can add or suggest other ways but as for me my method is still valid as I have not experience any issue with it. Adding a little bit of alcohol will certainly help ✌🏽️.

[@cjebyponpanal]

SAMSUNG s20 fe 5g display price

[@ersbit]

This was around $180

[@guillermocentella4802]

that is way to much work for me. I'll just pay you to fix it

[@guillermocentella4802]

very good instruction by the way. nice job

[@ersbit]

🤣🤣🤣

[@ersbit]

Thank you 🙌🏽

[@bard_AGI]

hell nah i'll pay 150 & tax to have someone else do that literal excavation to get to the screen

[@ersbit]

150$ lol did you add inflation 😂🤣😂. Glass only maybe it can happen but complete screen replacement it'll be higher.

[@ersbit]

Oh okay that’s a good price if the lcd is damaged not only the front glass cracked 👍🏽

[@oxcart4172]

That's replacement, not repair

[@ersbit]

I can agree with you. How would you repair a broken screen if not replace it?

[@ersbit]

True repair on these phones is basically gone since they went all Flat Screens and most of the time doing true repair will take more time than just replacing ( cost more to find a bad diode on a motherboard/ USB-C charging module/ on screen control unit etc....remove it replace it than replacing it.) that's why I did it the way I did it. Plus all the equipment to do true repair is very expensive people will find the video too technical. "😅 this is alredy getting comment that it is hard etc..."

[@oxcart4172]

@ersbit Apparently, there are special liquids that can fill in cracks-like windscreen repairs for cars

[@ersbit]

I think those are scams lol the screen manufacturers would make everything possible to make hidden not available to the public, I can buy some of those and test but I think it will not work @@oxcart4172

[@oxcart4172]

​@@ersbit It would be great if u did test them. I've sent u some money to help pay for them.

[@marydavis6417]

I am so going to buy a new phone, and SURPRISE!! it won't be a Samsung.

[@ersbit]

lol why is that??