Alta Laid off Their ATT Devs and Support

[@ECAVictor]

I left the Alta team 2 years ago already, but it still impacted me hard to see the supporter image with my ATT face on it and hear how the community is being abandoned. 😢

[@Obi-Wan_Pierogi]

@@ECAVictor I know of you only by name and reputation. This game is being thrown aside because of one guy… and no one can understand why. Even Joel has abandoned us.

[@VizDash]

Its pretty bad. Early 2023 Alta decided to start a new PvPvE Extraction game and let the community think for a whole year that all their resources were going towards ATT when they weren't. They even made statements at the start of the year that said "I want to leave you hyped for 2023 because I know I am", and "We're ready to work on big things and we're going to need your help to do that." Forest and Combat trials aren't even in the Quest version of the game 2 years after the climbing tower port, and we've only been getting very minor quality of life changes in those 2 years.

[@ECAVictor]

The thing, as I see it, is that Alta changed priorities. Used to be making a game and obviously pay the people, but after the USD$14m investment the priority became to raise valuation and eventually sell the studio. It's not wrong or bad, but at that stage actually making a game is secondary, that's around the time me, Boramy, Serena and Timo left as we all disagreed with the new direction.

[@Obi-Wan_Pierogi]

@@ECAVictor but where did all of that money go? How could they appease the investors if nothing we being created? What happened to Boramy? He just vanished and went completely off grid. Search his name, everything associated with Boramy stopped in 2022

[@ECAVictor]

A few very high profile hires behind the curtains cost quite a bit of money. But I don't know if they have appeased investors really well, they might, but they might not and this is the reason for letting people go. What I know from Boramy is that he wants some distance from it all and I won't say anything further in respect.

[@GlimGlum]

Rip cody, cam and nick, gone but not forgotten

[@Matthias129]

I played ATT for only a short time, but I remember being awed by its potential. It sparked wonder in me like Ultima Online did back in the day. Sad to hear that it's going down this route. Hopefully things will turn around and they'll not only support the game, but make it thrive!

[@AdrianBorzoi]

I remember getting this game and loving it only this summer, and now this is happening.

[@Breadlol44646]

The memories of ATT will always be there

[@xlpizza007]

It always comes back to money. We mentioned the idea of a subscription model in the discord to keep ATT profitable only weeks ago since forest was on a huge slow down and there was bad signs. It sounds like ALTA is choosing to end of life ATT instead. Sad since P2 is looking to be a dungeon runner with a crowded market. ATLA just shot what could of been their golden goose.

[@MsHoneyBBQ]

drama! man.. i hope this means that we'll be soon seeing the 2.0 version of ALTA. i love this game. it has SO much potential... i guess we'll see....

[@SETUPGROWTH]

someone should buy ATT from alta

[@cleanvr5016]

I was kinda thinking the same thing

[@2s4t]

@@SETUPGROWTH they’d support it more then alta 💔

[@KuffMen]

That’s probably the best thing that could happen as long as no bad company’s buy it

[@Zerithax]

Microsoft would like to talk to you...

[@SETUPGROWTH]

@@Zerithax ?

[@lesserz6310]

I wish I was a game maker, I'd make a version like this. Except I'd change and add several other things to it. We all have our wishlists to improve this game. I typed out a novel on here, but deleted it just for this post. I have a ton to say, being a long term player (2656hrs) for many years also. When I heard Cody was let go, I thought our server was completely dead and it was slowly sinking in.

[@Obi-Wan_Pierogi]

I think we all thought the same thing. I heard Cody was let go, then Cam... and I thought "Good bye, ATT". So the game will still be around for a while, but I don't think we'll be getting updates.

[@rollergalaxy9997]

I’d recommend checking out project campfire, a game made by the abandoned community. Sorry Obi, but I gotta spread the word.

[@Obi-Wan_Pierogi]

@@rollergalaxy9997 Please do spread the word :) I' AM a supporter over there now

[@Koco_Gaming]

ALTA is in the wrong here on so many levels honestly. If no one develops this game i dont know who will. #ForestWhen #RIPCODY #SAVEATT

[@saitamaonepunchman8176]

ATT is something I'll always have fond memories of, even the signs of it's slow death were unavoidable, it's the game I made the majority of my current friends from, the reason I try to play more games with friends and even the reason I was introduced to other friend groups. it's no exaggeration that ATT changed my life in a pretty major way and I'll always remember that, P2 seems like it'll be trying to shove it's way into a already crowded space and with most of altas OG staff gone or silent now it might just be a dead company but hopefully the vision ATT doesn't die with alta maybe, just maybe some former alta devs will come work on project campfire :D

[@yipyop5865]

thank you for being vocal about these issues

[@KuffMen]

Att means so much to me and seeing this happen just hurts

[@Obi-Wan_Pierogi]

I need everyone to please go and read Glenn's announcement. He did say ATT would continue to be supported. My INTERPRETATION is... Elandre and James will continue to support the backend (keeping the servers stable), but I DOUBT updates will happen for some time.

[@ZeroStorys]

I was just talking to uncle_lopez25 about how I can saport this game but now I understand why everyone was down earlier. Btw this is nathan2004 different account tho

[@Obi-Wan_Pierogi]

@@ZeroStorys Don't support a game that's not getting updated.

[@ZeroStorys]

@@Obi-Wan_Pierogi yes I understand now

[@ViolentSheep480]

what is the brick ?

[@Obi-Wan_Pierogi]

@@ViolentSheep480 It was an ongoing joke I had with the devs in some of my videos about a untextured brick that used to be on Town Hall. Nic later textured it and it was mentioned in the patch notes :)

[@JrUnknownVR]

I love a township tail, but I can’t play anymore. I used to support this game so much. I played it. I met you but this game has come to something. I never thought it would be. They’ve disappointed us.

[@Loomeoo]

I started to have my first doubts about the future of this game when Alta made the first announcements surrounding P2 and when they moved half of the team off ATT. It really is a shame to see the worst of my fears come to light. Cody and Cam were great members of the team and should not have been layed off.

[@2s4t]

hella dumb decision from ALTA’s part, all they had to do was work on this game and everything would’ve been smooth sailing.

[@butterz-7279]

We meet again

[@blax140]

i remember playing this game like 3 or 4 years ago this game had so many memories for me its a shame that this is happening too it

[@golden6294]

Loved this game, I hate to see it die out like this. Cheers, everyone. See you in the next one.

[@Shadow415.]

Thank you for making this video. Great explanation on everything 👌

[@juju-sl8pn]

I'll admit, I'm a blind optimist. I'm hoping and pining for this game's future, because it's one that means so, so much to me, and seeing it in this state pains me. I get how the game was made on spaghetti code, and became difficult to actually add onto over a certain period of time, but I feel like with effort, it could have been optimized. I truly can't express how sad it makes me see something so sentimental to me in this state, and I feel bad for those who were laid off. The lack of transparency on ALTA's part is not only damaging to the community, but to their company as well. Or at the very least the company's image. When we're speaking to brick walls, of course eventually people are gonna want to break through the walls, and due to recent events, I say we as a community have all the right in doing so. As unlikely as it looks, we must speak out as a community and keep hoping for this game's future. Canceling supporter memberships, being vocal about how we dislike the way things are going, ect. Truly, I think the awful communication is the main issue, because they never really told us much about what direction they were going to be going in with their company, and in conjunction, ATT. I really want to be able to eat my words and say this game had a grand comeback, truly I do. And while I continue to hold out my hope, I don't see it happening. I challenge ALTA to make me eat my words, because I'll gladly eat those words like a 5 course meal, with a smile on my face and a bib on my neck.

[@Obi-Wan_Pierogi]

Your words exactly match my feelings. There's nothing more to add.

[@huntetisaderp6617]

Sad I was excited for obi to post till I saw the thumbnail and realized why he posted..😢

[@VerrottetMM]

FTWImVippsque justice for Cody and the rest

[@SapphireSouls]

I'd been playing since 2021 and previously got in arguments/dogpiled on by the discord community for complaining about the stagnant nature of the game. How amusing it is to see everyone finally wake up and stop glazing Alta. They've legitimately not made a single meaningful content update in almost 4 years.

[@GhostQuartz]

I love A Township Tale, but I've always felt development was too slow, it seemed like they were way too focused on cosmetics vs other stuff for a game that has been in development for as long a ATT has. I get money is needed, but the trade off should have been content. I've seen solo devs make more progress in a year than Alta has in years. Good people, good game, but damn, it's just never going to take off at this point. Also not being on major platforms such as Steam hurts them way more than they think. You really only find out about ATT through word of mouth.

[@gunleehenry]

wait so is the forest update still coming

[@Obi-Wan_Pierogi]

We don't know. There are not more devs working on development of ATT. We only have backend devs keeping the servers running

[@allocoycou]

rip cody cam and nick

[@OptimisticMisanthrop]

If they could just give us housing and promise they won’t kill us id give them all my money

[@Redirected_]

Just a matter of time before the servers are shut down

[@GreyMaria]

See, here's the secret: a "community manager" does social media work, and "part-time developers" don't have to be paid benefits if they don't work enough hours.

[@Obi-Wan_Pierogi]

@@GreyMaria there aren’t any part-time developers on ATT

[@eyitsjay]

i remember terrorising on this game under the username mr cadbury

[@Kac_per]

I was waiting for this vid

[@nerdycatgoddess]

they still haven't updated the shop all day i not sure if ill be put more money if this game is already going to crud

[@Obi-Wan_Pierogi]

It’s almost like you didn’t watch the video. THEY’RE NOT UPDATING THE GAME ANYMORE. It’s done. There’s no team working on the development of ATT. Updates are done. Stop supporting Alta

[@strongfish9122]

Att is so cooked at this point only a miracle can save us

[@OptimisticMisanthrop]

I am new to Quest and I was most excited about this game just to find out it’s being killed by the makers so they can make a new game that’s the opposite of cozy smh

[@Obi-Wan_Pierogi]

The game is still playable, but don’t expect updates. Make sure you leave a review letting people know it’s not being developed

[@RIP_Chaos223]

I might have gotten Alta banned, but I really hate to see the team go, and the game that I once worked on (making bot's, not developing) but I really do hate to see it go. RIP ATT - King.Chaos

[@Tippsters-10]

#SaveATownshipTale

[@carlos-bu3kk]

bro i really want the forest

[@Obi-Wan_Pierogi]

Keep dreaming 😭

[@insertrandomtextgenerator]

ngl why would they fire the devs but keep the game

[@JUTSU_81]

@Obi-Wan_Pierogi I don't know why they do that Its me Youngguns the owner from A Tavern Tale used to be called a Timeship tale I don't know why they don't just sell ATT my whole staff in A Tavern tale Mainly my friend the co-owner is a game developer and designer he has created game talked about if he were to buy the game he has some really cool ideas for the future!

[@PodejrzanyPapierośnik]

Gra jest świetna, szkoda że twórcy maja totalnie w dupie dopracowywanie jej i kopią pod sobą doły. Może to kiedyś się ogranie :///

[@ALO12311]

Dammit man 😭

[@MistaBallistic]

This is really annoying, mainly because I’ve only just got back into the game

[@Obi-Wan_Pierogi]

Well, the game is still here, but just don't expect updates

[@MistaBallistic]

@@Obi-Wan_PierogiI know I was just really hoping the forest and other updates would come through, but it’s obvious that’s not gonna happen for a while

[@p1ngul]

Tima is to blame for this , The money hagling Dev that only cares abt money all the other games he owned got shutdown for money problems apparently .

[@yordinklaassen9906]

#SAVEATT

[@vyneash7353]

God damn it i literally just started stand-alone ver 2 weeks 😢

[@Obi-Wan_Pierogi]

The game is still going to work, but don't expect updates

[@Breadlol44646]

Also the urge to not dm Cody nick and cam to say how much I appreciate them so much

[@Obi-Wan_Pierogi]

Please do that! They will 100% appreciate it.

[@Breadlol44646]

@ sadly I can’t they left the att discord so I can’t dm them :(

[@AloneNoLife]

damn

[@KK-be8rv]

VR games have a very small nische. Like 20 people playing daily? ATT is not beginner-friendly. i started playing it with my two daughters, but the game really is hard to understand. The gameloop which consists basically of diving into the mines for ore, get ore, smelt it, build new tools and repeat. For younger generations and even for me, the time spent on cooking meals, unloading your backpack, storaging things,. .. is really boring. Just image, two people cost a company like 4k a month. how many copies you need to sell monthly to pay them? now involve 2-4 devs and server costs. This is sad but as a developer, i can see whats the issue. they started with steamVR/PCVR which had good returns, then they had to dive into meta quest to gain its reach within the store. But the optimization workload was so overwhelming and the player reach rather small, that they simply stopped it. And im honest: i own a meta quest 3 since the release, a pc and never heared of ATT. This game had so much potential. Just image a roguelike dungeon, armor smithing, farming, housing, alchemie, ...

[@Obi-Wan_Pierogi]

At peak hours during the weekdays, my server is always full (12 is the max). Other servers are also active (you can see the player counts). It's easy to see about 70 players online on weekdays during peak hours -- and much more at the weekends and around holidays. The game made money from cosmetics, not sales alone. With investments in the millions (over 12 million) Alta had the money, they just didn't seem to have a clear vision. The gameplay isn't the driving force with ATT, it's the community and interactions with other players.

[@KK-be8rv]

@@Obi-Wan_Pierogi yeah, thats great for a VR game. But take 70 players with supporter subscription and you cant cover a single developer. Its a shame but in the end, its about making money. If i as a software engineer put effort into a project, which is very stressfull since nothing is ever enough for players, then it should at least pay the bills. even with 12 Mil, if you develop a game with has a recurring of 300€ / month, didnt pay out its development cost and adding features didnt increase player counts, other ways need to be introduces like new games, to get the money back.

[@1800denko]

ATT isn't dead yet

[@Obi-Wan_Pierogi]

Yet… but we are not getting updates

[@bearycrazygaming2049]

I hate alta

[@Gamertaque]

NO! I LIKED THEM

[@WyattLasker-i3j]

Is this quest or pc

[@AloneNoLife]

Quest from my knowledge

[@protogensoup]

quest, the intros are recorded on pc if thats what confused you

[@Obi-Wan_Pierogi]

The intro was recorded a few weeks ago on Ankaria (the only cross-platform server). I was on Quest and the person recording me was on PC. The rest of the video was Quest. Development for the whole game has stopped.

[@hoarder26]

ok

[@ncferrieri1027]

Big l