Why dying for 17 billion years is the optimal way to play Buckshot Roulette

[@delightfulkissboy8926]

Been seeing several ppl ask about this, so worth clarifying: if we aim at ourselves every time, we have a guaranteed round 1 death in story mode. This is because in story mode, the first 2 loadouts are 1 live and 2 blanks, followed by 3 live and 2 blanks. Since we go first on every loadout and we have 2 health, we are guaranteed to die before the dealer ever gets a turn where there is a live shell left in the gun if we always aim at self. This means there is no chance of making it to the 3rd round and dying (or even winning) while getting our penalty higher if we follow this strat 👌

[@TheMistermastermario]

Makes sense. I didn’t know round 1 was completely deterministic like that.

[@delightfulkissboy8926]

Tbf I didn't either until I spent an hour playing round 1 over and over again 😂

[@patrickazzarella6729]

Based Elon Hater 😊. Let's go

[@Evan-hm7tz]

Elon hater is based

[@HarrisnF]

@@delightfulkissboy8926is it the optimal strategy though would it be more efficient to win for 17 billion years straight, I’m not expecting a response but is it the most optimal like the title says

[@andriusgimbutas3723]

Now imagine that after 17 billion years you go into the third round and lose

[@icycloud6823]

That's actually what I was imagining. I wonder if it's possible for dealer to shoot himself so many times over the course of the game while you are only shooting yourself. That you actually make it to 3rd round and make all previous doors kicked moot. I mean even if it has extremely low odds, it would only need to happen once in those 4 quintillion times you're dying.

[@undeniablySomeGuy]

@@icycloud6823 round 1 death is guaranteed

[@Ferrochrome12]

this is why GOD's waiver was bloody. He knew this strat.

[@beez1717]

The lore! You just created the best bit of lore possible for this game!

[@thermophile1695]

Gives new meaning to "more money than God"

[@qinop]

Godly headcanon

[@Sky_Guy]

Oh, _that's_ why heaven is corrupted and abandoned. God's been occupied for 17 billion years!

[@thermophile1695]

@@Sky_Guy And now he's retired

[@AvenDonn]

> Die for 17 billion years > Lose final round anyway

[@ItsMe_Victor]

Leave my man alone, his head was hurting.

[@JohnSmith-ox3gy]

Did you know gambling addiction is correlated with self-harm?

[@milankurienov6768]

But i can stop at any time so any self harm has no correlation to my gambling habits.

[@bakanur]

wanna bet?

[@linuxramblingproductions8554]

@@milankurienov6768bruh lmao

[@Asparion]

​@milankurienov6768 you may think that :)

[@funcat3560]

I must be a statistical outlier. I don't gamble. :P

[@skyshredder228]

Ah yes, waiting past the death of our sun and possibly the universe is the new meta for highscore% runs.

[@rasberiii]

the universe isnt going to end for an inconceivable amount of time let alone a few billion years lol

[@andriusgimbutas3723]

​@@rasberiii The universe ends the moment you win, because it goes bankrupt

[@Tuned_Rockets]

17 billion is peanuts to the universe. It takes at least 10^40 years for the universe to quit. so you could probably even do a max score run in 128 bit Buckshot Roulette in that time.

[@bencheevers6693]

@@Tuned_RocketsWhats the difference between two universes each empty with 1 photon one is one light second across and one is a lightyear across and you run them each for that length of time, are they the same?

[@DGH1]

@@bencheevers6693youve just described giant differences between them yet still ask if they are the same? you already answered the question my man

[@nono-ey8lx]

More youtubers need to slip in mini computer science lessons into their videos to help combat brain rot.

[@ctb3335]

You calling the penalties "cancer bills", "price of new leg bones" and "DUI fines" got a really good chuckle out of me

[@TheEggDev]

Thats what theyre called in the game files

[@ctb3335]

@@TheEggDev Oh my GOD. That's amazing

[@KasioGames]

fucking towels

[@mauer1]

@@ctb3335 the privileges of a solo indie dev.

[@bencheevers6693]

This is actually an accurate representation of hell and once you reach the overflow number you're let out

[@shortsandwich5573]

Congratulations. You have tricked me into learning basic computer science. How dare you. Pulled out the powerpoint and teacherspeak too.

[@wChris_]

just a small nerdy fun fact: To get the 2s complement of any number, you invert all the bits and add 1. And in addition to be able to use the same basic addition hardware for subtraction, you can extend it by placing a bunch of XOR gates in front of the second input and additionally activating the carry in to do subtraction.

[@delightfulkissboy8926]

Right! Forgot to mention how to compute the 2's complement #, thanks for mentioning this 👌

[@ferociousfeind8538]

Dunno if the video mentions this, but we USE two's complement because you can naively add numbers together with no care for whether it is positive or negative, and, exempting overflows, it "Just Works"

[@mikesavard2144]

I dont know what XOR is for but all i think off is à fnaf character whit that

[@_chirp_6108]

​@mikesavard2144 XOR gate takes two inputs (which can be either 0 or 1), and will give 1 if exactly one of the inputs is 1, and 0 otherwise.

[@undeniablySomeGuy]

​@@_chirp_6108That's true but written in a way i've never seen before. I've always heard it as "1 if they are different, 0 if they are the same"

[@mrtimurer]

The buckshot roulette music in the background makes this computer science lesson feel like a fever dream.

[@Average_Brody]

according to the general release waiver, if you win you also apparently inherit the dealer's student debt.

[@awkwardturtle7973]

Clicked for bizzare strats, Stayed for Comp Sci 101

[@XetXetable]

> Hates Elon > Hurts him > Gives him 9 quadrillion dollars in the end Is this what they call a "tsundere"?

[@Manticorn]

To be fair, I don't know if there's functionally any difference between 300 billion and 9 quadrillion. There's only so much to buy, lmao

[@andrevaz1289]

9 quintillion by the way, it's stupid amounts of money

[@Ambidextroid]

@@Manticorn I'd say there definitely is a fuctional difference considering there is supposedly around 40 trillion dollars worth of money in the world. The Apollo space program cost around 300 billion dollars, but with 9 quadrillion you could fund 30,000 Apollo space programs.

[@Gwen_Hemoxia]

@@Ambidextroid This stoopid ass wouldn't and you and me both know it. That guy couldn't care less if he got more or less money, he only cares if he's #1 in personal wealth and about ensuring that it won't change

[@man5262]

​@@Manticornthere is a slight difference, actually! With 300 bil, you'll likely destabilise the economy, while with 9 quadrillion, you'll completely obliterate it and make that currency completely worthless 👍👍👍

[@BenaSPACE]

Jojo fans might recognize this as one of the universes Diavolo got punched into.

[@lukaslee7380]

I mean it's a death loop so technically it's canon

[@nicholaspearce2250]

DKB: Who is the guy that I’d like to condemn to an eternity of shooting themself? Me (To myself): Probably someone like Elon Mu- DKB: Elon Musk

[@jdr293]

I was literally thinking elon too it's crazy how great minds think alike

[@WorldZProductions]

i would choose George instead in that 👍

[@Zorro9129]

Cringe minds think alike.

[@WorldZProductions]

@@Zorro9129 Elon haters be like: "why do you hate Elon?" the person: "ehh, he bought twitter, that's why i want him to suffer🥴😭😤 "

[@majickman]

same

[@relectroplayz130]

as a time traveler im pleased to inform you that this video one day does come into use, though sadly in the year 1,352,982,248 Earth has recently become inhabitable and a lot of these "video games" and "gaming technology" ended up being left behind both physically and technology-wise and slowly dwindled until nearly forgotten, completely overshadowed by far greater methods of entertainment that i can not describe here for my own safety, as well as yours

[@Hexagonaldonut]

44:20 For reference on just how large we're talking here, an unsigned 64-bit integer can store a value up to *18,446,744,073,709,551,615.* In this case it's a signed integer, so the number is only slightly less impressive, at 9,223,372,036,854,775,807 (down to -9,223,372,036,854,775,808). That's just casually, y'know, quintillions. EDIT: Well, I feel a little silly for saying this, because I really should've figured the full number would come up in the video!

[@Lazzerglasses]

So, I recently found the channel kissboy, and I absolutely love the idea of your channel being a weird combination of coding explanations for these types of games, with MagicTheNoah levels of presentation, and a touch of DougDoug level challenges. Excited to see where the things go from here. Thoroughly enjoying this type of Nerd Alert content.

[@maximju.3184]

53:29 As a russian-speaking person, I assume Klubnika is just the Russian word for strawberry (Клубника), which would make the pronunciation be like Kloobneeka (l is hard, n is soft, ee is stressed) He's Mike, though, so the name might have changed/shifted phonetically due to environment, idk

[@NBU38]

he is Estonian

[@maximju.3184]

​@@NBU38 oh, makes perfect sense. Then it's most likely that the pronunciation is unaltered at all.

[@nibs7252]

Integer underflows my beloved

[@cewla3348]

this is an overflow because the data flows over its container size afaik

[@Spenji]

I cannot explain why, but Delightful Kissboy's cat being called Gus is just so fitting.

[@Chroniclerope]

Fun fact, that brief case weighs 203,340,546,421.776 tons, making your character the strongest being in existence, and his car the strongest machine to ever exist.

[@Schnort]

Stronger than Minecraft Steve?

[@AlecSoD]

I like how you subtracted the initial door kicks like it actually meant anything

[@HarrisnF]

It does. Did you not read the code?

[@AlecSoD]

@@HarrisnF I know it has “an effect” but it’s basically a rounding error. But when you’re in the nerd zone, you gotta be exact!

[@Milbyte11]

@@AlecSoD well DKB dropped off the decimals each time he divided which is the correct thing to do but only right at the end, so the actual number of deaths is exactly one lower than what he calculated lmao

[@TETANUS.]

​@@Milbyte11he was close atleast

[@Mememaster12345]

@@Milbyte11 Imagine spending the 13 billion years getting this record and then 13 more billion years some random guy optimises for your rounding error and beats you

[@airman6490]

Didn't expect to go from a buckshot video to an explanation of the Pac-Man level overflow bug. Well done, and keep the game programming analyses coming.

[@Nin5egAta]

Is your pfp Buck Bumble? A Space Marine? Both?

[@JoyKirbs]

@@Nin5egAtai hate to be the one to tell you this, but... it's Air Man from Mega Man.

[@LaceworkDreams]

I'm glad you are Delightful Kissboy rather than Detestable Pissboy

[@qrayzie4253]

How delightfully kissboy of you.

[@peanutsveryepicchannel8699]

very kissboy, delightfully so

[@enafunnyperson]

Love the shift from buckshot roulette to a 40 minutes math lesson lmao

[@Proud_Knight]

I just got a lesson in binary and overflow from Kronk playing Buckshot Roulette. _What a time to be alive._

[@julienmurray3125]

me with ~17 billion years left in elon musk's body:

[@beyondobscure]

Another way to understand Two's Complement is to imagine a number line where it's split at the middle, the higher portion of the line being used for negatives instead of higher positives. You lose half of your highest possible stored value, but you gain the ability to use negatives.

[@aleksanderaugestad6695]

I have an exam in «digital technique» next monday and came to youtube for a break, thank you for not letting me do that.

[@delightfulkissboy8926]

😂

[@sergei2039]

5:55 Wait, Delightful Kissboy, DK... Coconut gun...

[@_chirp_6108]

It can fire in spurts

[@beyondobscure]

if he shoots you@@_chirp_6108

[@Schnort]

If he shoots ya, it's gunna hurt

[@Adriethyl]

I was halfway through the video when I realized I wasn't paying attention because I zoned out and was jamming to the sweet bops in the background and I still understood the presentation

[@JohnSmith-ox3gy]

Dealer wheeling with the tripple saw double spyglass deluxe.

[@LiarJudas666]

i really like your presentation style during the educational bit that i hope people didn’t skip. it reminds me of my own way of trying to explain things to people, and this is high praise coming from me. (i have an extremely positive opinion of myself, dunno if it’s earned)

[@LiarJudas666]

i had a vague concept of what overflow is but this video made it click it for me, very cool!

[@Mothmook]

Inflation 17 billion years later: Wow, now you can buy a lollipop!

[@CErra310]

several, even!

[@ApocalypticJay]

new_leg_bones_price has got to be one of the variable names ever

[@gaigeriel]

when you said "Who is the biggest loser I can think of" my mind immediately went to Elon lmao. Glad we're on the same page

[@AndreyMakarov-i7h]

You're all so much better than Elon, true winners.

[@beyondobscure]

I tried to think of one of the guys from Impractical Jokers to be tonight's big loser.

[@darkestlight660]

Only like Trump and Matt Walsh can compare in my mind when it comes to sheer loserness

[@linhero797]

These comments are sad.

[@fartface8918]

@@linhero797 ? have you seen the man

[@leaderofcommunistchina1427]

love your videos. Just earned a sub. This stuff is great for learning basic concepts. I think i’ll show it to my brother, im sure he’ll find it interesting

[@hak0bu]

I got to say, his ability to say numbers out load is impressive. I get lost trying to figure out what number it is past a million.

[@TheUndeniablyPowerfulH]

One million and one.

[@cheep5645]

@@TheUndeniablyPowerfulH 🤯

[@TheUndeniablyPowerfulH]

@@cheep5645 such a mindblowing feat, right? i am so s m u r t

[@WestGarbage6]

@@TheUndeniablyPowerfulH Okay smart guy, what comes after one million and... One... One million and... That number!

[@TheUndeniablyPowerfulH]

@@WestGarbage6 One million and one to the power of neo- one million and one

[@Qrook]

not two minutes in and you're already sayin the good stuff, i like you

[@powerusage787]

i think this video has single-handedly gotten me interested in computer science

[@kasiabiryukova5011]

I now realize I didn’t see lecture slides with “but delightful kissboy” on them in college nearly enough

[@Allodder]

I did not expect to get a programming lesson in a video of delightful kiss boy playing an indie game, but it was pretty good

[@adicsbtw]

you're more confident than I am, putting code from a decompiled game up on the internet I've been doing a lot of decompiling of Lethal Company recently, to the point where I almost have the entire thing fully functional in editor, but I don't feel confident even in just including bits of the code in a mod to make my life easier. Instead I've been transpiling new code into the existing code to try and make it work, and I think I'm going to even need to learn how to do reverse patching for some things just to get an extra level of control over everything without leaking original game code

[@idguy4rainbowpheonix]

Using automation to make Elon repeatedly shoot himself is an ironic fate of the same calibre as greek myths

[@georgefeyen8759]

i've never heard of delightful kissboy before but just based on his name and this video title i subscribed

[@georgefeyen8759]

aaaand 1 minute in he says fuck Elon Musk 🤙👏👏👏👏

[@CallOfGamer2012]

Watching your videos gives me a feeling of watching my older brother plays videogames.

[@arthurdent5357]

If you continue to watch these videos, you'll be the one making the games for your brother.

[@rustyrocket666]

Welp time to put this in the background while i try not to believe the first round isn't a live 😂

[@Shaddow10020]

I really enjoyed the binary/coding review! I’m only an amateur programmer and barely dip my toes into C++ at times when I’m not using python, so the review of binary, binary arithmetic, and general programming analysis was fun. I hope you are able to showcase some more of this, because you did a great job of explaining those concepts!

[@smallkidneyjoe4046]

kinda a merciful fate for elon ngl

[@VerbDoesStuff]

Ah, yes, me when I kick down 6 doors so I need 6 new legs

[@adrielquiroga7901]

I would have sent Kurt, you know, he had experience in this kind of gameplay

[@beyondobscure]

NAH 💀

[@LegacizedApe]

this is fucked but i cant not laugh at it

[@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527]

Who is Kurt?

[@adrielquiroga7901]

@@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 Kurt Cobain, if you don't know who he is, Google his name

[@topherscorner3331]

the nerd alert had me cackling brother, but im learning how to code so this was actually really interesting to me

[@friendofjohndarnielle]

honestly stunned that my favorite gambling game guy was able to explain something so intensely nerdy and foreign to me and have it be fun and make sense

[@GIRGHGH]

How many times can you win in that same amount of time? What's the maximum money you can get in that time using life strats over consecutive wins?

[@antaresmc4407]

It takes a couple tens minutes to win and there's about half a million minutes in a year, so a quadrillion wins is probably a good first order estimate, the death strat gives you some ten quadrillion bucks, I'd say winning is better but it's actually quite close given there's time losses and some games can be fairly long... For an accurate answer I guess you can try and speedrun a couple games, average it and divide the 17Gy by that time

[@gav7497]

Ok but what if it’s in double or nothing? The odds are slim but you can make your way up eventually.

[@antaresmc4407]

@@gav7497 double or nothing may look exponential with more and more rounds, but if you include the probability of losing expected value per round most probably converges... Also note that losing gives you nothing... Though, since the rounds are not exactly isolated and the dealer is very stupid, it probably converges on a far higher average than normal mode... It may not even converge but thatd require a reliably winning strategy which prob doesnt exist... Also, another way to look at it is that in normal mode there's that guy resurrecting you all the time so you can canonically just integer overflow it, while to do the same in endless mode youd have to win the quadrillions deathless... Which is easier said than done but probably possible, let alone if you try constantly for 17Gy

[@mogwix]

Pretty neat to discover Patrick Warburton's alter ego.

[@derpincake]

The fact that this would make almost exactly $60,000 per hour is wild.

[@kyleyuen245]

This man explained coding better than my coding teacher

[@VGDocs]

Thank you so much for the optimal strat yet again kissboy! I'll make sure to start on this tonight after work- i might be busy but surely I'll manage to get this done. Even better actually I'll make sure to do it without using cigs and beer too!

[@codegeek98]

If you already know how binary and 2’s complement works, skip to 0:45:15 for the end of that digression

[@tomc.5704]

But IS that optimal? Let's suppose I played double or nothing for 17 billion years, statistically what's the highest cash-out potential I should expect to reach? (We ALWAYS double or nothing, so we always eventually lose. What's the highest offer we get?)

[@undeniablySomeGuy]

This is interesting because the way to make sure this exploit can never happen is simple, and something I've done as a toy problem in my secure software class. You just have to check if the number is outside expectations at all, namely numbers above 70k being also set to zero.

[@spectre_tea]

I doubt most people are going to encounter this naturally by playing for 17 billion years though

[@TheUndeniablyPowerfulH]

similar names

[@undeniablySomeGuy]

​@@spectre_teaits a secure software concept that you can learn and apply to more situations.

[@ancy9253]

Delightful kissboy is truly the goat of buckshot roulette

[@creepyfishman6858]

LETS GO MY HOPE THAT YOU WOULD NAME THE PROTAGONIST ELON WAS FULFILLED

[@DoomTrain84]

Subscribed for being the first youtuber who shows game footage as well as adding their own code to make things more interesting. I also like how you break down the coding process in a way that someone who has no knowledge of coding can understand

[@cwb7143]

I feel like I'm back in 2014 with the little to none edit. I absolutely love it and it makes me want to start a YT channel again

[@spongeintheshoe]

Well, now we know how Josh from Let's Game It Out is going to play it.

[@DoomRater]

I wanted to add my friend found a similar score exploit in Master of Orion 2 which allows him to get insanely high scores by conquering all the planets except for one, ensuring they can never be a threat, then passing on the turns into the thousands and then surrendering. You actually get a higher score than if you win.

[@ezikbro]

After I got this recommendation, I didn't see your name and the first line of the video got me chuckle Also automating of self-shooting with a script in 8 lines of code is just hilarious for me by some reason

[@Extroteratiory]

Everytime DELIGHTFUL KISSBOY makes a DELIGHTFUL VIDEO I can feel the power of his big brainyness generating energy for orphans in congo

[@hello-rq8kf]

>play for 17 billion years to win 9 quadrillion dollars >immediate inflation renders gigahyperinflation renders your fortune completely worthless 50 red bulls might be all you could by with that sum

[@rushing2game172]

7:42 therewas no reason for the dealer to smoke he just wanted to taunt you

[@NatalieExists]

hitting this door for 416 years crashes buckshot roulette

[@JohnSmith-ox3gy]

h o w d e l i g h t f u l

[@Yolipow]

Genuinely would love to listen to you teach coding/computer science for hours. You made it interesting and fun to learn about!!

[@syco7274]

I support the fck Elon message, that alone is worth the like

[@CruorBlossom]

I was already well aware of the nerd section, but it was still very fun to watch through. Makes me want to see you play through Turing Complete.

[@NapalmFlame]

1:43 Actual CHAMP moment. 10/10

[@realjames1]

Halfway through nerd zone, my one braincell is overclocking

[@Thorenic]

In a single game, yes, this method will give you the largest number in one go. However, If I were to take the money gained per second and compare it to a speedrun of the game, this method gains ~$16.67/second; Whereas a speedrun taking 6:50 would give ~$169.53/second!

[@Cam-dn9ed]

9,223,372,036,854,775,807 is almost as much as the average 17 year old's car insurance quote here in the UK if they dare try to insure an engine larger than 50cc

[@cottoneyejoe8285]

Beautiful, well-presented strat. Everyone ought to start using it right away.

[@Ironor8]

DOORS KICKED STRAT

[@jem5636]

Watched this while finally cleaning my desk. Math lesson and I finally have a clean workspace!

[@nodthenbow]

Good explanation of 2s compliment and why it works. I know it wasn't relevant to the video but explaining 1s compliment and the -0 problem would have been nice too. I might just be saying this because I had a terrible boolean algebra professor in uni though. Anyways, it's funny that we figured it out for + and - and it just worked on the existing multiplication and division gates too, which was one of the best "it works in practice, but does it work in theory?" moments in the field imo. Also it locked us into having to deal with overflow in convoluted ways forever.

[@gameygeemer4142]

The second you said godot only had signed integers I knew exactly where this was going and stayed

[@SussyBefuddling44]

I wish teachers like you were in school. Like, holy, my teacher just told my class that there are bits and bytes and binary about it. You know what is more hilarious? With this knowledge I managed to complete an exam, which all graduates from school in my country do, 85/100. It may sound not that impressive, but it is actually is, because it is very complicated, and only computer geeks, who like to code in their free time instead of game and friends, manage to do it better. Just crazy how these basic and important things I don't know because they are not really mentioned in exam

[@desreset]

binary addition fun fact! the bit that gets carried over past the bit-limit (think 10000 for a 4 bit number) has a dedicated spot in memory (called the "carry bit"). this is typically ignored from the result, but it is accounted for, and the computer is not just writing into undefined space. you will see this in simple logic-gate adders (ie: named "2 bit adder with carry" or similar). this is considered good practice, because you dont want to overwrite nearby data with a stray 1. if youve seen water logic gates, this is like dumping water from bit 5 onto the nearby floor, dampening anything nearby. ps. excellent video so far DK! hope you're enjoying multiplayer ::>

[@lu.beats999]

i thought you would pick a random name, but you probably picked the best one for this occassion lol

[@eaglest0554]

8:40 Ah, elon's latest and greatest invention, assisted full self shooting.

[@paradingmarty]

Came for the buckshot roulette, stayed for the comp sci lesson

[@darealshinji]

so TL;DR you boost your doors-kicked-counter until it's large enough to create an overflow when the final score is calculated whoch will give you the (almost) maximum value for the used integer number type. Also the length of an integer value depends on the language/compiler/implementation. In C and C++ for example I think it's usually smaller than 64 bits. Great video. Beautiful cabin crew 🌹 Scarlett Johansson 💋💋

[@ThePoodle]

da real shinji?

[@IsaacClodfelter]

The Lowteirgod advice strat

[@_duckydee]

the nerd zone segment feels like Patrick Warburton explaining two's compliment and honestly? i'm all here for it

[@LiliththeMoth]

Came for the funny game, stayed for the computer science lesson.

[@jessicosper1580]

With that amount of money you could give everyone on earth a little over 1M

[@QAZWSXEDCRFV4579]

i learnt binary addition and subtraction in school, and they did such a shit job explaining two's compliment, that i just learnt how to do straight subtraction in base zero without even swapping the numbers you've explained it so simply and well, that now, 8 years later, i finally actually get it!