Alternate Congress Of Vienna || How Europe Could Have Looked

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Possible History

Күн бұрын

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@kulkuljator
@kulkuljator Жыл бұрын
"First problem, Poland exists" history of Poland in a nutshell
@RexOlafusVidulusMagnus
@RexOlafusVidulusMagnus Жыл бұрын
That is a necessity, not a problem
@Guest-qm8mi
@Guest-qm8mi Жыл бұрын
As a Polish person, i agree.
@ratisgood4448
@ratisgood4448 Жыл бұрын
@@Guest-qm8mi🧈🧈🧈🧈👅👅👅🧈🧈
@imacup.2667
@imacup.2667 Жыл бұрын
​@@ratisgood4448wtf
@Tvrqoise
@Tvrqoise Жыл бұрын
@@ratisgood4448tf?
@Pigraider268
@Pigraider268 Жыл бұрын
I didn't know Austrians wanted to restore Commonwealth, but that makes so much sense. No doubt that was the idea of Metternich
@therealinferno161
@therealinferno161 Жыл бұрын
It was!
@mappingshaman5280
@mappingshaman5280 Жыл бұрын
If Britain owned Indonesia in addition to India and Malaysia, it would have basically been GG for every other empire. Not only would it have the massive Indonesian population at its disposal, it would have also had 100% control over the straits of Malacca, and the indian ocean would be effectively a British lake as they would control East Africa, south Arabia, India, SEA on the indian ocean and Australia.
@The_Alt_Vault
@The_Alt_Vault Жыл бұрын
Ah yes I do love a nice voyage across the British Indian ocean. But yeah Britain may decide to just dominant all Asian trade by being a little more open to taking more land from the Qing.
@ryannathaniel9296
@ryannathaniel9296 Жыл бұрын
@@The_Alt_Vault The British could annex the entirety of Hainan Island to counter French influence in South China and threatened the French colonies in Indochina. Who knows, perhaps this alternate Britain might be bold enough to annex Siam (or at least make it a protectorate)?
@The_Alt_Vault
@The_Alt_Vault Жыл бұрын
@@ryannathaniel9296 Maybe, same goes for Taiwan the Brits could take that during the Opium wars.
@catmonarchist8920
@catmonarchist8920 Жыл бұрын
Maybe they'd want china closed to leverage the massive imperial population
@Har1ByWorld
@Har1ByWorld Жыл бұрын
XD no
@orgamboides6492
@orgamboides6492 Жыл бұрын
Some extra proposals and aims: Spain was initially in a great power position, however the Spanish ambassador (a political appointee) was completely ignorant of the situation of Europe, lacked diplomatic skills, and was so annoying he was described as insufferable by the British and swiftly ignored. It was through this loophole that Talleyrand, and then France, sneaked in the negotiations. The Spanish wanted the Rousillon from France and influence over Parma, Tuscany, Lucca and the Two Sicilies due to dinastic ties. They got nothing except international embarassment. Portugal simply wanted Olivenza back, taken without a treaty by the Spanish in 1801 while they were still allied to France. The issue was pushed under the rug by the British, who wanted Spanish support begore the whole fiasco thing. As for Bavaria, it was proposed that Austria would annex it while the Wittelsbachs would rule over Belgium, but this was swiftly denied. There was a fourth option for Saxony. Gigen the royal family was catholic, Prussia purposed an exchange. They would get the mostly protestant Saxony in exchange for the Wettins to rule over Prussian Rhineland and Westphalia, which is mostly catholic.
@diegonatan6301
@diegonatan6301 Жыл бұрын
Portugal also had to give back French Guiana.
@richardsantosgarcia8972
@richardsantosgarcia8972 Жыл бұрын
For anyone else interested, Historia Civilis made two videos about the Congress of Viena that really goes into great detail into how the event went and what every great power (and diplomats representing them) wanted out of it. It's an excelent watch that really complements this one.
@engineer_429
@engineer_429 Жыл бұрын
Scenario Idea: what if France was sucked into the ocean
@crazyduck156
@crazyduck156 Жыл бұрын
Heaven on earth
@The_Alt_Vault
@The_Alt_Vault Жыл бұрын
The Dutch having a mental brake down as their is only a Belgium covering their southern flank from their eternal enemy
@ripholyromanempire
@ripholyromanempire Жыл бұрын
​​@@crazyduck156eaven is France and britan
@Mr.Eggthreal
@Mr.Eggthreal Жыл бұрын
​@@crazyduck156heaven on earth is an understatement
@karaltar7914
@karaltar7914 Жыл бұрын
Truly a best case scenario
@theChaosKe
@theChaosKe Жыл бұрын
Its kinda sad to consider how france wasnt punished at all yet in later wars was driven by mad revanchism for the smallest losses.
@gustavotreze3193
@gustavotreze3193 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Also Germany was just defending his ally Austria in WW1 (possibly they would take some territories if they had winned), and not doying a big imperialism like France before and in Napoleonic Wars
@VineFynn
@VineFynn Жыл бұрын
​@@gustavotreze3193 we know what they wanted to do if they won, because when they won in russia they imposed an absolutely insane peace deal (brest-litovsk) so the war was definitely about imperialism for germany
@cqpp
@cqpp Жыл бұрын
@@VineFynn the Brest-Litovsk peace deal only got implemented because Russia refused the much more lenient peace deal which only saw them lose small amounts of Polish land to an independent Poland and the Baltics, why do people keep failing to mention this very fact? Also most of the land Russia lost barely had any ethnic Russians in them so they weren't really core territories to begin with, but thats besides the point that Brest-Litovsk only came about after the Russian thought they could somehow just ignore German peace offerings and retake all of Poland and the Baltics once the civil war might've ended.
@theman166
@theman166 Жыл бұрын
@@cqpp And also the french wanted a much harsher treaty on Germany in WW1 but the UK and USA held them back in peace negotiations. so the biggest take away is the french are just crazy and no one really cares. i think everyone already knew that tho.
@oihanlarranegi472
@oihanlarranegi472 Жыл бұрын
​@@cqpp I think that not seeing the ukrainian lands as part of core Russia is fundamentally flawed. Not only were the ukrainian cities mostly Russian and was an economic motor, but it also had a symbolic value.
@givemeawand
@givemeawand Жыл бұрын
Scenario Idea: What if Britain and Hanover remained in personal union?
@oake6180
@oake6180 Жыл бұрын
That'd mean either queen Victoria never rises to power, or hanover changes its succession laws
@The_Alt_Vault
@The_Alt_Vault Жыл бұрын
​@oake6180 easier to do one than the other just have to convince the Hanoverian nobility that the Prussias would take over if they became independent. But if Britain cam keep hold of it, some minor German states in the north may seek British protection from prussian dominance. Though Britain may give it to Prussia to secure an alliance against Russia. While keeping the tittle of king of Hanover.
@jonathanwebster7091
@jonathanwebster7091 Жыл бұрын
@@oake6180slight nitpick: as a constitutional monarch, Victoria reigned, she didn’t rule. That of course; was the main difference between Britain and Hanover: Britain had a parliamentary tradition going back centuries, and its monarchs were little more than figureheads by this point, whereas Hanover quite frankly wasn’t: it was an absolutist state in the tradition of a lot of the other German states of the time. And though Hanover *did* have a democratic constitution from 1836 onwards, on his succession to the throne, Ernest Augustus abrogated it, dissolved the Hanoverian parliament, and restored the (much more authoritarian) constitution of 1819. The other problem re. the relationship between Hanover and Britain during the personal union between the two was the level of priority the monarchs gave to each territory: George I and George II clearly preferred Hanover and Hanoverian interests, but George III, being born and brought up in Britain, had little interest in Hanover at all (and never bothered to actually visit the state despite ruling it for nearly 60 years), and though his son George IV actually bothered to visit Hanover (and even had a crown created for his role as King there), and William IV gave it a constitution, Hanover was pretty low down on the list of priorities of both men. So to the public opinion of people in the Kingdom of Hanover; people resented the fact that Hanover was pretty low down on the list of priorities for its Kings and their representatives. In Britain, people viewed Hanover as an autocratic liability-a millstone around their nexts that got Britain entangled in continental issues that people quite frankly, didn’t want to be involved in. even though both men *were* next in line to the throne of Hanover, and both men were born and raised in Britain, public opinion in both Kingdoms in respect to the succession of Ernest Augustus I and his son the future George V of Hanover was kind of softened by the fact that they were really only the two members of the Royal Family who were actually bothered about Hanover. So it would all depend on *who* succeeded in Hanover-if it was still Ernest Augustus I and his descendants, there is no way Hanover would have democratised.
@stargazer-elite
@stargazer-elite 8 ай бұрын
British Germany 😂
@PoffHistory
@PoffHistory Жыл бұрын
You ignored the fact that the Netherlands tried to claim German territory all the way up to Koblenz and that it was almost granted.
@donpollo3154
@donpollo3154 Жыл бұрын
Scenario Idea: What if my parents loved me?
@rainiel419
@rainiel419 4 ай бұрын
Even as a scenario that’s too unrealistic
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 Жыл бұрын
What if everything went perfectly for France after Napoleon's coronation in 1804?🎉🎉🎉🎉
@saintekweena795
@saintekweena795 Жыл бұрын
Maybe after the proclamation of the second republic. It would be a bit more interesting.
@y.r._
@y.r._ Жыл бұрын
Seconded!
@kenos911
@kenos911 Жыл бұрын
Roman Empire, then it falls again
@stargazer-elite
@stargazer-elite Жыл бұрын
Yes like this so ph sees
@leaveme3559
@leaveme3559 Жыл бұрын
France dominates Europe till Russia industrialization.....After which Russia and GB destroy French hegemony after like 150 years
@Desmuu
@Desmuu Жыл бұрын
I just want Denmark to have the entire peninsula. It looks a lot nicer.
@draphotube4315
@draphotube4315 Жыл бұрын
True, we should have had an anti-bordergore faction at the table back then. If they had restored Lotharingia (with UK backing during war) then no more wars for western europe
@donpollo3154
@donpollo3154 Жыл бұрын
Just give denmark all of europe
@NeverEverClever
@NeverEverClever Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Denmark just looks weird. Give them the Poland threatment: Clear out Jutland and extend the Netherlands to beef them up there and give Funen and Lolland to Sweden as compensation for Finland. Zealand becomes a part of the United Kingdom so they finally have both Zealand and New Zealand which never made sense that they're split up. Also the brits finally get revenge for the viking invasions. Denmark can keep Bornholm, as a puppet state of Iceland of course.
@NelsonDiscovery
@NelsonDiscovery Жыл бұрын
I think I see some fans of my Danish-Dutch-Hannoverian superstate overhere 😁
@theChaosKe
@theChaosKe Жыл бұрын
I like how denmark looks like germanys funny hat though.
@Emanon...
@Emanon... Жыл бұрын
Historia Civilis has a brilliant 2 part video on the negotiations that took place at the conference of Vienna in 1815. Greatly recommended.
@maurizioyaya437
@maurizioyaya437 Жыл бұрын
I always love a video where France loses territory
@yessir889
@yessir889 Жыл бұрын
Haha france bad big chungus reddit gold wholesome keanu
@xatime2833
@xatime2833 Жыл бұрын
​@@yessir889 So funny XD heres a silver medal LOL xD lmaidjjdj XDxdZd lmao 🤣🤣
@christhefirst
@christhefirst Жыл бұрын
@@yessir889 basado
@bigchungus1920
@bigchungus1920 Жыл бұрын
@@yessir889 take my gold kind stranger
@yessir889
@yessir889 Жыл бұрын
@@bigchungus1920 no way, big chungus himself
@arturonotari8235
@arturonotari8235 Жыл бұрын
Scenario idea: Don't wanting to lose they're new territories, but also wanting a strong Neterland, England decides to use the close relation betwenn bot countries royal families to form a confederation.
@winstonchurchill586
@winstonchurchill586 Жыл бұрын
Learn better English please.
@rey_nemaattori
@rey_nemaattori Жыл бұрын
The Dutch already tried that, and it cost them their hegemony on the seas.
@eMorphized
@eMorphized Жыл бұрын
Or just organize a personal union, making England and Anglia finally be under the same rule
@Chicão_Santos
@Chicão_Santos Жыл бұрын
I have to be honest, the scenario where Austria has the possibility of conquering Italy, in a daring hypothetical scenario, even having annexed it, and having influence in even annexed Germania It intrigues me, but I'll tell you in my opinion I would really like to see the scenario where the British annex Indonesia, the guys would do very well, I think that of all the British Indonesia was the What caught my attention the most
@adamvarga8332
@adamvarga8332 Жыл бұрын
Love the paralells to Historia Civilis's videos about the Congress Of Vienna
@Vihaanc-123
@Vihaanc-123 Жыл бұрын
Scenario idea:What if Frederick William IV of Prussia had accepted to become Kaiser per the offer of the Frankfurt Parliament in 1849?
@theinterestingcompany3191
@theinterestingcompany3191 Жыл бұрын
Noticed you had a video for what if Charlemagne could mind control, assuming you’re still going to make absurd videos like that: What if Martin Luther became the Pope?
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 Жыл бұрын
Amazing idea
@NelsonDiscovery
@NelsonDiscovery Жыл бұрын
😆Please do this.
@gustavotreze3193
@gustavotreze3193 Жыл бұрын
That would be funny
@MikeHunt-zy3cn
@MikeHunt-zy3cn 8 ай бұрын
Kek
@Han-b5o3p
@Han-b5o3p Жыл бұрын
I do want to see you say "this small german state would prefer not to get annexed to prussia" for 5 hours lol
@duckling3615
@duckling3615 Жыл бұрын
Scenario Idea: Seven Years' War but Russia and Austria crush Prussia but Britain still wins on every other continent. My main idea behind this is if the French Revolution and Napoleon happen but Prussia is not there would Austria take over the Rhineland directly and try to go for German unification or would they continue to rule it indirectly. Also, what would happen to Poland before the French Revolution in this scenario?
@ThePikminCaptain
@ThePikminCaptain 5 ай бұрын
This Aged
@leninvasco
@leninvasco Жыл бұрын
What if central america never split, what if Minas Gerais achieved independence from Portugal in the 18th century, what if the separatist movements of the regency period of the Empire of Brazil all succeded, what if everything went right for Bolivia after its independence, what if the Netherlands colonized Nordeste, what if China and Cambodia won the third Indochina war, what if the Iberian Union never split, what if Sweden never lost its colonies until the 1950s, what if Otto III won the war for the Hungarian throne against Charles I, what if Russia didnt expand towards Asia, what if Russia didnt make peace with Prussia in the 7 years war
@gustavotreze3193
@gustavotreze3193 Жыл бұрын
What if Rio Grande do Sul winned the Ragamuffin war, what if the German Empire restaured the Brazillian monarchy in 1889 (they planned to put Luiz August from Saxe-Coburgh-Gotha dynasty, the husband of princess Leopoldina, in charge of the throne of the "second empire of Brazil")
@por3896
@por3896 Жыл бұрын
it would be interesting to see what if poland havent stopped occupying moscow and didnt collapse internally and what if they didnt stop on only smolensk and what if fake dimitry stayed in power and wasnt overthrowned by the russian people (the day the polish were kicked out of moscow is a unification day in russia celebrated to this day)
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 Жыл бұрын
*Happy Habsburg fanboy noises* Love that unified germany!❤❤❤❤
@SirBolsón
@SirBolsón Жыл бұрын
Me too!!
@nataliamundell6266
@nataliamundell6266 Жыл бұрын
I do wonder what would have happened if Britain took all Dutch lands as Indonesia is a massively important part of the world from population density
@The_Alt_Vault
@The_Alt_Vault Жыл бұрын
East India company "Ah yes profits 📈 " The British government 50 years latter "can I add you to the Raj?"
@sharkronical
@sharkronical Жыл бұрын
In 5 years of British occupation, slavery in Indonesia was banned, education supported, capitalism in the form of land rent implemented, infrastructure greatly improved, bureaucracy restructured, and general economic improvement as its own sect (not just an extension of European market) introduced. This is before the fact that the Dutch introduced forced labors and harsh taxation after they regained power. Indonesia taken by the British indefinitely wouldn't only benefit us from the integration of Malaysia, but also as a whole. As much as Indians hate them today, the British were far better colonizers than the Dutch.
@The_Alt_Vault
@The_Alt_Vault Жыл бұрын
@@sharkronical British Empire secretly being the good guy the whole time.
@sharkronical
@sharkronical Жыл бұрын
@@The_Alt_Vault 🔫 always has been
@ryannathaniel9296
@ryannathaniel9296 Жыл бұрын
@@sharkronical Don't forget that the British might give Christmas Island and the Cocos and Keeling Islands to Indonesia (since both of those islands had Malay majority population) I wonder what would happen to the Indonesian monarchies once the British gave them independence, though. Would they have the same fate like our own timeline, something better like what happened to Malaysia, or would the British set up something like a House of Lords for their colony?
@draphotube4315
@draphotube4315 Жыл бұрын
Scenario Idea; What if Lotharingia survived (Maybe in a way like Poland did)? Or atleast have Lower Lotharingia survive?
@The_Alt_Vault
@The_Alt_Vault Жыл бұрын
For no reason nearly a thousand years latter Lotharingia "I live"
@T11235
@T11235 Жыл бұрын
Yes please
@brocklee4005
@brocklee4005 Жыл бұрын
What if Napoleon never invaded Russia/What if Napoleon won the Napoleonic wars?
@DaRealKakarroto
@DaRealKakarroto Жыл бұрын
Hm, I kinda would've wanted to see how it would've looked like if the great powers decided they want France to carve up like Austria or Hungary was in WW1, but it was still a nice video.
@jorgeabud1133
@jorgeabud1133 Жыл бұрын
In an alternate timeline, the Vienna treaty looks exactly like ours
@Nando_Moura
@Nando_Moura Жыл бұрын
My suggestion for the next video : What if everything went perfect for the British Empire ? .
@Robert_L_Peters
@Robert_L_Peters Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Love this time period
@p00bix
@p00bix Жыл бұрын
Your video output per month is absolutely insane -- what's your daily schedule like?
@Bob-fh4ht
@Bob-fh4ht Жыл бұрын
Scenario what if austria unified germany, not prussia
@Kromiball
@Kromiball Жыл бұрын
Austria unifying Germany with the added caveat; without Prussia, is even more interesting.
@maddogbasil
@maddogbasil Жыл бұрын
Now I want to know what if the ottomans managed to conquer vienna in 1529 That would be very interesting
@stric9l0l
@stric9l0l Жыл бұрын
Scenario idea: what if after ww1 the lossers were handles like france in the Congress Of Vienna
@jackeinessontjader5291
@jackeinessontjader5291 Жыл бұрын
Scenario idea: What if Sweden won the Great Northern War
@NelsonDiscovery
@NelsonDiscovery Жыл бұрын
I would have liked a Danish-Dutch-Hannoverian union as a counterbalance against Britain and Sweden and a Belgian-Rhineland-Bavarian-Polish-Lithuanian cursed state as a counterbalance against France, Prussia, and Russia. Anyone opposed?
@PoloniumPretzel
@PoloniumPretzel Жыл бұрын
Scenario: what if Poland & France partitioned the HRE
@msmith1890
@msmith1890 Жыл бұрын
Scenario idea what if the mongols invaded western Europe? Great video.
@hermangrinden1283
@hermangrinden1283 8 ай бұрын
Quick question for anyone who might have an answer, why was France dealt with so leniently compared to Germany after ww1/2? The Especially considering they waged always with Europe for almost 3 decades and caused major damage and humiliation to many of the great powers of Europe? Why wasn’t France seen as a huge threat the same as Germany was?
@Vagueness27
@Vagueness27 Жыл бұрын
What is the little pink thing where Poland was at 6:58?
@fortrohan-brawlstars2745
@fortrohan-brawlstars2745 10 ай бұрын
Krakow
@thebrittaniondragon6183
@thebrittaniondragon6183 Жыл бұрын
Scenario British Empire got everything it wanted
@mappingshaman5280
@mappingshaman5280 Жыл бұрын
Thats tricky since "wanted" is not the same as "could have got." For example the king of hawaii actually asked Britain to annex the kingdom but Britain refused.
@The_Alt_Vault
@The_Alt_Vault Жыл бұрын
Roads just vibing as he takes the train from Cape Town to Singapore and never leaves British soil. Before take a ship back amd never seeing another country's flag that isn't under British protection.
@thebrittaniondragon6183
@thebrittaniondragon6183 Жыл бұрын
@@mappingshaman5280 Fair points but Britain tried to colonise Argentina, contain the US to the east coast, win the great game against the Russian empire, Turn Hawaii into a protectorate, Queen Victoria through marriage tried to reform German monarchy, maybe turn China into a puppet, and a cliché, i now but the formation of the Imperial federation.
@TheRavenLord1
@TheRavenLord1 Жыл бұрын
An United Germanic realm, a good dream. A good dream
@Tartarus144
@Tartarus144 6 ай бұрын
the thumbnail fr turned the hexagon into the square 💀
@zhcultivator
@zhcultivator Жыл бұрын
What if Australia and New Zealand never existed at all?
@IvoryTower779
@IvoryTower779 8 ай бұрын
What art service do you use?
@Apollo-ft2pu
@Apollo-ft2pu Жыл бұрын
Szenario Idea: What if the crusaders didn't conquer Jerusalem
@Werty715_25
@Werty715_25 Жыл бұрын
I think that there is another option for Poland-Lithuania- Getting the lands of the 3rd partition back. This would leave it as a small buffer state between Russia and Prussia.
@dengronebaronen5260
@dengronebaronen5260 Жыл бұрын
What if Sweden won the great northern war.
@bones6448
@bones6448 Жыл бұрын
What if everything went perfectly for Austria next!
@harre3
@harre3 6 ай бұрын
Why does Poland always get violated 😭
@joshuaminnich3896
@joshuaminnich3896 Жыл бұрын
I think it would have been interesting if Sweden was the 5th major power in the congress of Vienna instead of France because they were on the winning side. Russia and France would be a lot less dominant.
@kloon9699
@kloon9699 Жыл бұрын
The initial British plan for the Netherlands was to have the southern border follow the Antwerp-Maatsricht-Jülich line. King Willem I wanted all of Belgium, Luxembourg, and all of Germany west of the Rhine and north of the Moselle, as well as most French fortesses that straddled the Franco-Belgian border (Givet, Maubeuge, Le Quesnoy, Valenciennes, and Condé). This was too much, so he had to be content with Belgium when Austria didn't want it back.
@blizzard1198
@blizzard1198 Жыл бұрын
Please do if everything went right for south africa.
@perseo7954
@perseo7954 Жыл бұрын
Scenario Idea: -What if the US had lost the american war of independence? -What if everything went perfect for the Spanish empire?
@jonathaslopes8038
@jonathaslopes8038 Жыл бұрын
What if Japan was conquered by the monghols?
@shinsenshogun900
@shinsenshogun900 Жыл бұрын
Abolished Yamato Dynasty and Hojo Shogunate, a short lived Mongolian Horde occupying the former Kamakura period Japan… potential early Sengoku Jidai style Kenmu Restoration and Genko War between rival Mongol khans and Chinese princes pretending to be loyal to the Yuan Mongol Empire in China. Possible syncretic Shinto-Buddhist Confucian Japanese empire/feudal military government with high chances of supposed friendships or enmities with Ming China and/or Joseon (an Imjin War can happen in the name of avenging the Mongol invasions of Japan)
@kommandantgalileo
@kommandantgalileo Жыл бұрын
What if everything went perfectly for the UK after 1801
@dominusvolpus8031
@dominusvolpus8031 Жыл бұрын
No more US
@cingenedovenaugustus4558
@cingenedovenaugustus4558 Жыл бұрын
I need to go to toilet, I'll be back though.
@SudetenlandMan
@SudetenlandMan Жыл бұрын
thanks
@sant2472
@sant2472 Жыл бұрын
i love your content
@ComixStudios-eq2hq
@ComixStudios-eq2hq Жыл бұрын
Here's an idea, What if the Duchy of Prussia united with Austria instead of Brandenburg in 1618?
@Chicão_Santos
@Chicão_Santos Жыл бұрын
Even better, what if Brandenburg united Austria instead of Prussia, at some point in its history I remember that Bohemia had the right to the throne of Barandenburg, that is, at some point in history If you pull strings, we can get Austria to have Brandenburg.
@ComixStudios-eq2hq
@ComixStudios-eq2hq Жыл бұрын
@@Chicão_Santos I know Brandenburg became independent from Bohemia somewhere around the mid 12th century.
@Chicão_Santos
@Chicão_Santos Жыл бұрын
Exactly I would find it really cool if the Habsburgs had possession in Brandenburg too, Austria would be insane in this alternate reality
@ComixStudios-eq2hq
@ComixStudios-eq2hq Жыл бұрын
@@Chicão_Santos yeah, since they would now have no one to challenge their power, and without a a protestant power to counteract the catholic Austrians, Germany may become a catholic state lead by Austria after the napoleonic wars since that's where it would most likely happen.
@Chicão_Santos
@Chicão_Santos Жыл бұрын
​@@ComixStudios-eq2hqYes man, it would be really cool to see an alternative scenario like this and if, like an alternative scenario where the first 2 kings rudolph had not died, Austria would maybe annex Bohemia more Easily, or even further expanding Austrian borders and consolidating Austrian culture and influence, this could lead to Austria being emperor of the HRE for a longer time.
@LoganLS0
@LoganLS0 2 ай бұрын
Full size Poland, full size Sweden, Austria Unites Germany in exchange for giving up their Italian holdings to Piedmont, and Russia gets a blank check against the Ottomans.
@lecake9217
@lecake9217 Жыл бұрын
What if everything went perfecly for the Ottomans?
@vates4163
@vates4163 Жыл бұрын
What if the US intervened in the spanish civil war?
@The_Alt_Vault
@The_Alt_Vault Жыл бұрын
USA "nobody panic, were here to help" Republicans "screaming in pain and infighting" USA "Well guess I'll go see what the nationalists are doing" Nationalists "I want nothing to do with you"
@LouisMcK
@LouisMcK Жыл бұрын
great video more like this
@EnragedAngloSaxon
@EnragedAngloSaxon Жыл бұрын
it never made any sense to me that France Wasn't Harshly Punished. yet Germany Was Practically Destroyed.
@pep-qew
@pep-qew Жыл бұрын
What if Napoleon become Italian?
@happyslapsgiving5421
@happyslapsgiving5421 Жыл бұрын
Remained*
@clodsirelover2501
@clodsirelover2501 Жыл бұрын
scenario idea: what if venetia united italy
@JanekHenio
@JanekHenio Жыл бұрын
damn i learn so much freom your videos
@planetarymappingofficial
@planetarymappingofficial 7 ай бұрын
I think it’s funny how the Ottomans are still a Great Power yet they just stay silent the entire time
@alphana7055
@alphana7055 Жыл бұрын
Sweden gave up Finland years before the congress, it was never on the taple.
@loser_account4995
@loser_account4995 Жыл бұрын
I wish France was weak normally...
@SirBolsón
@SirBolsón Жыл бұрын
How about a strong Germany?
@shinsenshogun900
@shinsenshogun900 Жыл бұрын
A weaker France will pave the way for a sadder Europe, with the two deadlock delegation factions of the Vienna Congress realigning their alliances back to the starting situation of the Seven Years War, just that the France of this situation is neutralized
@loser_account4995
@loser_account4995 Жыл бұрын
@@shinsenshogun900 wtf i only made a joke
@shinsenshogun900
@shinsenshogun900 Жыл бұрын
@@loser_account4995 As jokes are half reality half comical fiction, it is possible to happen kek
@Tiex2248
@Tiex2248 Жыл бұрын
Please do viewer scenarios again
@ardsam6922
@ardsam6922 Жыл бұрын
The Napoleonic Wars? I'm great at that game!
@offset5328
@offset5328 Жыл бұрын
Wish we had a greater germany
@pc_suffering6941
@pc_suffering6941 Жыл бұрын
France being punished more makes sense, but Greater Poland... all three countries around it fought the French, wtf
@realhawaii5o
@realhawaii5o Жыл бұрын
And Spain? There was a lot of talk about what to do with Spain too...
@englishtwister
@englishtwister Жыл бұрын
What is that tiny nation state between Poland and Austrian Empire?
@tobiasjosekoch3475
@tobiasjosekoch3475 Жыл бұрын
The Free City of Krakow
@englishtwister
@englishtwister Жыл бұрын
@@tobiasjosekoch3475 Thanks for that. Much appreciated.
@diegoyqulki
@diegoyqulki Жыл бұрын
Fre city of krakow was anexed with Austria a time after
@JustaAm3rican
@JustaAm3rican Жыл бұрын
Scenario Idea: what if Vichy France went to war with Spain?
@MappingSubber
@MappingSubber Жыл бұрын
Scenario Idea: What if Prussia Started a New Prussian War
@andrespalacios6540
@andrespalacios6540 Жыл бұрын
is there a scenario where the Republic of Venice doesn't disappear?
@SirBolsón
@SirBolsón Жыл бұрын
Big chungus Germany is a dream come true! 🇩🇪🇩🇪🎉
@dengronebaronen5260
@dengronebaronen5260 Жыл бұрын
What if WW2 was more contained and it was only the British Empire against Germany and Italy. And the minor nations.
@The_Alt_Vault
@The_Alt_Vault Жыл бұрын
So France amd Russia aren't involved, I mean France being a minor power ia funny. But Britain blockades Germany amd makes Italy cry till they don't want tonplay anymore. Then weight till Germany implodes or dose something stupid.
@dengronebaronen5260
@dengronebaronen5260 Жыл бұрын
@@The_Alt_VaultYou right in what your saying but I mean that this would happen after France fell. But the results would probably be like you said.
@coolfinn6736
@coolfinn6736 8 ай бұрын
Polands existence is built upon not existing
@dankminecraft_train4248
@dankminecraft_train4248 Жыл бұрын
I know you probably won’t be able to read this, but could you construct your own timelines where portugal and spain stay a muslim peninsula?? And then do you think that they would form a rivalry against the ottomans??
@dougfowler1368
@dougfowler1368 Жыл бұрын
So what happens if Napoleon is assassinated in 1809 as almost happened and France is then defeated quickly? Russia is on the outs with the allies. And independent Holand not given to Russia makes sense in this scenario but if Sweden can't defeat Russia can the allies just say "well too bad you should Have Finland but we can't help, sorry." Because it seems hard to give Pomerania as well since I think Prussia got that. Although one thought is that Prussia could be given one of the Dutch colonies.
@tompatterson1548
@tompatterson1548 Жыл бұрын
Why didn’t Denmark lose any lands in the south?
@morsecode980
@morsecode980 Жыл бұрын
Do a “what if everything went right” vid for Putin
@elvingadd8512
@elvingadd8512 Жыл бұрын
what if germany had taken something from austria during the Austro-Prussian war instead of Alsace a few years later
@charluu1929
@charluu1929 Жыл бұрын
Alt history idea:What if The Anglo-Burmese wars didn't happen.
@TheKonkaman
@TheKonkaman Жыл бұрын
Looks like a hoi4 peace deal
@sahilhossian8212
@sahilhossian8212 Жыл бұрын
Lore of Alternate Congress Of Vienna; How Europe Could Have Looked momentum 100
@iamtheguardsman9942
@iamtheguardsman9942 Жыл бұрын
What if the Von Habsburgs were Protestant?
@tompatterson1548
@tompatterson1548 Жыл бұрын
What if Preußen offered land in France to buy Britain over to their side? Or if Sweden or Spain or the Ottomans were let in instead of France?
@spynix0718
@spynix0718 Жыл бұрын
Only issue with this idea: The major powers of Europe didn't care about France. They only cared about Napoleon. Why do you think they declared war on Napoleon and only Napoleon?
@Everyone-calm-down
@Everyone-calm-down 11 ай бұрын
That’s why it’s called alternate history 🤦🤦🤦
@ChangeNameEdits
@ChangeNameEdits 8 ай бұрын
Yes
@RightfulArchon186
@RightfulArchon186 6 ай бұрын
yes
@Tom-jg9de
@Tom-jg9de Жыл бұрын
What if Poland was lice germany in ww2? Lice lets say in 1920-33 some lice hiter gain power in poland and have simiral plans to real live hitrel (P.S i not good at english so i can say some stuff wrong)
@BombettaPela
@BombettaPela 5 ай бұрын
bro you done 0 changes 🥵🥵🥵🥵
@KSZ_Olek
@KSZ_Olek 4 ай бұрын
Polish history: PAIN
@prolebenz251
@prolebenz251 Жыл бұрын
4:19 russia austria and germany fir the last like 700 years except for the last 40 years
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