Why we switched from Blackmagic Design to the Canon C70 and r5c… Mostly

[@scottievee330]

I too run with 2 C70's and an R5c. Done. Finished. They cover all the bases. The images are stellar and that's what we sell so... yea. Happy.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Yep that about sums it up! Cheers

[@mkflavvideo]

thats what ima do

[@CringePanda]

You're everywhere, lol

[@scottievee330]

@@CringePanda Ha. Yeah... I need to get out and shoot and stop commenting. But I noticed my comment here. "2 C70's and an R5c. Done. Finished." I wasn't. I sold the R5c and one C70 for the very awesome Canon C400. Now I'm Done. Finished. Till the next one. Take Care Panda.

[@AlucinorProductions]

We’re selling one c70. Keeping one. Buying c400 and c80 and keeping r5c

[@mrkumaran]

I swear by my broadcast Ursa G2 6k, and BMPCC 6k Pro. Done 3 feature films on them, more than happy with them

[@ChrisParayno]

2:12 agreed! I've been using a BMP 6K pro and URSA 6k. Phenomenal image but more work than needed for most one/two man crew jobs.

[@AlucinorProductions]

100% concur. That phenomenal image is why we still have a BMPCC 6k pro. Partners well with our Sigma EF glass too including APSC lenses like the 18-35

[@jakeward5074]

So good to hear them described as content cameras and the benefits on leaner shoots! I picked up an FX6 for smaller productions so I didn't always need to hire, and it's been amazing to use on these. The image looks great for its price, it's light, has lower power and data consumption, built-in NDs, and good ergonomics for handheld and shoulder work and even the AF in a pinch (similar advantages to the Canon's). Whilst the image is important, it's just so easy to work with on the smaller content shoots where we don't have all the resources and crew available. I built my kit, so the rest of the accessories and camera support is pretty overkill for the FX6, and this means I only need to hire the camera body and lenses for larger shoots/TVCs, Alexa Mini etc.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Nice one. 100% agree. On small team (or single op) shoots, cameras like the c70 and fx6 really tick a lot of boxes and create great images. Are they Alexas? No. Lol. But they're a lot cheaper, very versatile and enable you to move fast. Sounds like you've made a great choice 👍

[@theoriginuhd]

Are you litterally answering every single comment... ...respect!

[@AlucinorProductions]

Hahaha thanks for noticing. Doing my best. I did make the video to get other thoughts, camera combos etc. Appreciate the comments from everyone

[@DineshBhadwal]

If you are an aspiring cinematographer who hopes to shoot a Hollywood level production one day as a Director of Photography (or just wants to reach that level), a Blackmagic can be an invaluable and unbeatable asset. This camera is a like a grand matured teacher and the first thing a Blackmagic teaches you is that you can make any type of film without the need of autofocus. Good DPs control what is outside the camera and just use the camera as a recording device. For example, lighting, framing, blocking, depth of field, camera movement etc. True, they need something which can do justice to their creativity while keeping things simple. But, it's mainly colour science, type of codec and the post production ecosystem. Blackmagic offers all of it. Also, pulling focus is not that tough. It is a skill which takes time to learn and master. But, once mastered, you get exceptional fulfilment while capturing life in front of the lens. I think Sony and Canon with their toys, which they release every other day at exorbitant prices, are lowering the bar. We are much capable whether as an artist or a creative professional. Don't lower the bar people. But, thank you for sharing your thoughts and making this video. It starts a conversation.

[@AlucinorProductions]

You're welcome! Thanks for taking the time to share your perspective! Appreciate it. Like I say in the video, the Canons are our content cameras (not our cinema cameras). It's going to be interesting to see what matches better with the Alexa as a bcam on narrative work. (For narrative work I mainly direct rather than shoot, but I shoot a lot of content)

[@aujax1]

there is a persistent opinion out there that autofocus is somehow “beneath” skilled camera operators and dp’s. Ive worked several jobs with an AC where they were pulling focus, ive pulled focus many times myself on solo jobs, and ive used cameras that have good face-tracking autofocus. let me just say that on some of those stressful, distracting solo jobs when there are a million things going on at once (im worried about sound, lighting may need a tweak, my talent is going off-topic, and i need to come up with five more questions) not needing to worry about focus all the time is a GODSEND and very PRACTICAL. No, OF COURSE pulling focus is not that hard. Its MAINTAINING focus through rushed, complex shots with shallow depth of field and difficult shooting situations. When I get to Hollywood OF COURSE im NOT using autofocus. but when im running a tracking shot on a ronin by myself and my talent is moving in unpredictable ways, autofocus is a godsend. Maybe some of you have a magical power to deal with all of that with zen-like calm and hit the focus mark perfectly while working solo. I for one will take the super-accurate canon face detection af. (btw, Im an Ursa user lol).

[@AlucinorProductions]

This comment is perfection!!! 100%

[@prodj.mixapeofficial6431]

Anyday for cinema, black magic, for solo creator, these camera are you go.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Yep. Most non narrative content

[@darkmxk]

I'm alone in virtually all my shoots. At most I'll have one extra person on set. I've chosen to go with the Sony FX3 - Bias af... I've always been into the sony camera world in one way or another. - Already had E-mount glass - Compact body with cinema look to the camera body itself. - Great codec with enough colors for my workflow. - Easy to throw on a gimble or rig out. But... if money wasn't a factor, I would have sold my glass and gone with the C70. Big fan of the image, built in NDs is just revolutionary for me. Great camera overall. At the end of the day the FX3 is a brilliant camera that does exactly what I need it to do and that's enough for me. I'll probably stick with it for at least another 3 years.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Sounds like you made exactly the right call mate! Thanks for sharing your thought process! All makes sense to me

[@symbiohse]

Recently switched from Blackmagic cameras to Red Komodo for narrative work. Coupled with vintage Leica R lenses we’re blown away by the image. Thanks for a great video with lots of details

[@AlucinorProductions]

Thanks mate! How are you enjoying that global shutter???

[@symbiohse]

@@AlucinorProductions Oh man, loving it. Getting those whip pans going!!!

[@AlucinorProductions]

Hahaha I'm jealous

[@csmimaging]

LOL was that hard green shift around @10:14 when talking about Sony color a subliminal diss? 😂 I love it

[@AlucinorProductions]

Hahaha you caught that? They've improved light years with their new cams

[@csmimaging]

@@AlucinorProductions I did! And yes they have made alot of improvements, though I think the damage "sony green" did to the name is going to felt by sony for a long time to come.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Yep think so. I'll never forget hiring an f7s and being like wtf

[@tecno8335]

I got the URSA G2 with the DJI Focus Pro. The ultimate combo for one man show 😊

[@AlucinorProductions]

@@tecno8335 I’ve heard it’s great! How was the setup etc?

[@DriftwoodProject]

Ah you did it. I remember commenting a while back after having a horror experience with multiple G2 bodies and had to return them. Ended up going A Cam / B Cam with C300iii and C70. I could not be happier with the combo and there’s really nothing I can’t do with that combo.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Sorry to hear! Great solution though!!

[@Damien-og6sk]

Same story here, sold my BMPCC 6K and 4K to buy a C70 last year, and just bought a second one last week. The C70 fits all my needs and I'm still able to keep the RAW worlkflow I got used to with Blackmagic cameras

[@AlucinorProductions]

Nice one. Yeah having the option for raw still is awesome. I’m waiting to see what will be of this rumoured c200mkii with the same sensor. (Supposed SDI and All Intra at higher frame rates)

[@koni-video]

What do you think about the R5C? I also plan to sell my 4K. I am attracted by the 8K capabilities, more compact body, photo capabilities. I plan to screw ND filters onto the lens. And get a couple of RF lenses. The power supply problem can be solved with an inexpensive power bank. It seems that everything can be solved, but I am still thinking about it. What would you advise?

[@CCozart]

I have followed your camera journeys... I lean on the BM pocket series for my indep. cinema work, however you always point to the reasons to consider the features of the cameras as tools, in achieving multi-layered professional objectives.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Appreciate it mate. BM pocket, Agree perfect tool fo Indi cinematography... and yep all about what makes the job easier, faster etc. We definitely buy different cameras for different purposes. Thanks for watching and coming on the journey!

[@SaintProductions1]

@@AlucinorProductions But thats the thing... BMD isn't competing with the mirrorless cameras. I'm pretty sure they could have upgraded the pockets & blow Canon & Sony out the water in some aspects. but instead they release a Pocket 6k G2, dear goodness.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Yeah I wasn't interested in those either

[@digitaldevigner4080]

Did the same. Used to shoot m32 and eventually that led to the P4k. Great camera and format but having used other cameras it always felt like it was missing a few things. I protested AF for years because in my day there was no such thing as AF. When we did start getting AF it sucked. Then for fun and missing a photo camera I bought a Canon M6 mk2 to also see for myself what all the hype was over DPAF. Despite the line skipping and lack of log of the camera I was immediately blown away with the color and ability to focus insane;y well. I then sold it and bought a Canon R6. Absolutely loved the photos and video out of the box. C-log 3 was vastly better and easier to use than I ever experienced with m43 V-log L. Only problem is it didn’t have raw. Not a huge deal for content creation, or run/gun work but it was definitely a reason to need to keep both. I have since picked up R5 and I can’t believe how darn near perfect the camera is for me. 8k for over sampling, 8k true raw internal, 8k or 5k cropped ProRes raw external to a Ninja V. It really had it all plus amazing photos. Now I know it’s not a cinema camera and I recognize that and still like many aspects of the P4k but I think it’s time to move on. While slower the R5 has true raw video while BRAW is a debayered and partially processed in camera. Not a big deal but it’s enough of a deal that many P4k shooters are using really old firmware so they can keep using the true cdng raw format. It’s just nice knowing we can have true raw again. I also feel like C-log 3 gets a bad reputation because of the visible noise at ISO 800 but that’s by design. Canon packs a ton of stops above middle gray. 6.3 to be exact. ISO 800 is similar to ISO 800 or 1000 on the Pocket cameras with a ton of visible noise. It’s that level of ISO that gives you a similar over 6 stops above middle gray. When you compare the two that way it really puts into perspective how much C-log 3 does. We don’t get to remap the stops with ISO like we do on the Pockets but c-log 3 needs to be treated the same way. Shooting a stop over essentially gives the same cleaner look and 5.3 stops over of the P4k at its native ISO 400. Two stops over is like ISO 200 on the Pockets and 3 stops over is like ISO 100 or 1250 on the Pockets. Same limited highlight range but insanely clean shadows. C-log 3 is not a one size fits all log format. Much like the Pocket cameras you need to decide where you need the stops to be. Do you need to protect highlights or shadows? A low contrast green screen or dark house horror movie shoot could shoot 3 stops over since there is hardly any specular over 90% reflective anyway. Shooting outdoors you may want stronger highlights. Thing with Canon is since it starts higher at ISO 800 that about as worse as one may ever need the noise to be. 6.3 stops over is a ton and there is almost zero need to shoot under to gain more highlights. The dual native ISO on the R5 is amazing as well. While ISO800 may have the noise of ISO 800 on the Pocket cameras it’s ISO 3200 where the true strength of the R5 shines. It looks vastly cleaner than the P4k at ISO 3200 with the full amount of dynamic range. I trust ISO 3200 and even 6400 on the R5 a lot more than I do on the Pocket cameras. To me the second native ISO of the Pockets was always about having a cleaner ISO 1250 and 1600. Highlight detail was pretty crushed at that level however. Now I get the insane low light of ISO 3200 with the full dynamic range of the sensor. Even ISO 12,800 is usable on the R5 is some situations. Now keep in mind I believe light takes priority over sensor ISO. The reason we have dual native ISO however is so we don’t need as much light output. We still want to sculpt the shot with light but now we can do so with smaller LED lights that can run off a battery. This is where the ISO 3200 is pretty amazing on the R5.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Thanks for sharing your camera journey!! Glad the details are here for all of our benefit. I do love our r5c… I wonder if Canon will be able to cram nds into the next version. That would be AWESOME

[@AdamLangdon]

I’m currently in between options. Just shot a doc in Africa with a Pocket 6k Pro and, for the weight restrictions of the airlines, it was great to have the portability. WHATEVER camera I go with next, I’ll be keeping the P6KPro because of its versatility.

[@AlucinorProductions]

100% That's awesome mate. Let us know what you end up going with!

[@stewartcotton9954]

@@AlucinorProductions question what jacket are you wearing? thanks

[@AlucinorProductions]

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[@jolyoncox]

Excellent real world advice, thank you!

[@AlucinorProductions]

You're very welcome

[@alchemymagick]

Hi there, I’m considering going from my BMPCC4K to the Canon R5C, but I’m hesitating bc the image from the BM cams are so filmic, whereas much of what I’ve seen from the Canon cams looks a bit too digitally sharp and plastic-y, less organic to my eye. I prefer a softer film look. Any thoughts on this? I understand much can be achieved in post, but curious what you think, having worked with both cams? Thanks!

[@AlucinorProductions]

The r5c is a VERY sharp camera. I would say the Canon C70 is closer to BM in terms of the image. The C70 looks sharp compared to an Alexa 2k, but is noticeably softer than the 8k sensor on the r5c, even if you're recording in 4k. We've kept our 6k pro but it barely gets used at the moment, but still can't see the point in selling it. A 1/8 promist or other filter can be a godsend on a camera like the r5c for a more organic look... But, and I know this can be a pain to hear. I would rent one for a day shoot both cameras under different conditions then use the next day to go through it and see what you think. We definitely favor the C70 over the r5c most of the time.

[@jessejayphotography]

I have an R5 and a R5C. I was very close to getting the C70 over the R5C but ultimately settled on the R5C as the image quality is not that much worse than the C70 and kit size was an important factor. Also, down the road I could always sell my R5 and the R5C could become a true hybrid and I could move up to a newer C camera if one were to come out.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Sounds like a good way to go, with great forethought built in. The big benefit the C70 has for video is those dual mini XLR inputs and ND's built in. I haven't used the r5, but expect the r5 and r5c would be an easier/faster match in post for two camera shoots

[@gerardobello1747]

Thanks for this info. I’ve used canon since 1999. Since over 10 years I shoot video and photos. In 2018 I bought 2 bmpcc4k. I love them, and for a while I was happy with it. But i don’t shoot cine or anything close to it. I do live events, corporate and some low end commercials. So I have 3 concerns about them. 1- I miss autofocus. 2- Can make them look exactly the same when I’m doing live events. For corporate I don’t mine because I shoot in raw. For b-roll I found myself more comfortable with ProRes. 3-After you rig them, they are heavy and the monitor is extremely hard to see when outdoors. I’ve been looking at Sony Fx6 but as you said, there is something in Sony colors that doesn’t convince me. Now, people are saying that the r5c autofocus isn’t as good as the r5. I have an r5 at work and I love it. But it overheated. But video quality is amazing. I want to keep the bmpcc4k and add something like r5c or c70 but I’m not sure yet. Is an investment for the next 4 to 5 years.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Thanks for sharing your situation. I will say the 6k pro monitor is excellent. Bright and articulates… alas no autofocus. I haven’t shot the r5 so can’t compare AF. Imagine that’s stills vs dedicated video mode differences with the AF. But as someone who never shot with AF before, I find both to be superb for interviews. The C70 just got face tracking at 120 too so it just keeps getting better and better. Both great cams with different strengths but if it’s dedicated for video it’s hard to go past the c70

[@Ansonandco]

love the call for discussion. I am using the odd ball of the cinema world, the SIGMA fp. I just love the cine dng image in post and it is a way to get the large format look on a lower budget. I just got the 50mm t1.5 and LOVE it, so definitely look forward to see what you all do if you get the f1.4 HSM.

[@AlucinorProductions]

I've never used the Sigma, but that's awesome to hear mate. If it's working for you and you love it, that's what it's all about right?

[@Ansonandco]

@@AlucinorProductions absolutely!

[@marklondon8793]

I love your videos but as a fellow fp owner, you are a crazy person. :-) I do think the fp is more comparable to his use of the Arri or BM cams. I use Lumix bodies for content work, but thinking of going Canon.

[@Ansonandco]

@@marklondon8793 lol a crazy person? I mean probably, I love that camera more and more each year I use it

[@marklondon8793]

@@Ansonandco and I respect the hell out of you for that!

[@wildshiftspictures2607]

I‘m thinking about getting the R5C or BMPCC6K Pro. Autofocus and stills/video cam in one or better codecs, cheaper, built in nds? Smaller canon or bigger BM? It‘s such a hard choice and often it is the price that lets me tend towards the BM, but somehow I don‘t want to miss autofocus for gimbal work or interviews where you have to take care of 2 cameras at once. I had the Pocket6K in the past and of course often did not bring it with me on „smaller“ shoots or travels - but the 5c I could just take instead of my R6 and go everywhere and still get the best results…

[@AlucinorProductions]

I totally understand! It’s certainly a big price hike (the r5c over the 6k pro) which can be hard to justify when the 6k pro is so affordable and so good. Both amazing cams with different strengths. Both great resolution

[@heartshapedfilms]

Coming back to weddings and uits funny the C70 and the 6K pro are two cameras I am considering, depending how well it all goes but I am currently on a fuji. Though I know the mirrorless won't cut it forever, even if I do love the image.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Both make great wedding cameras. The resolution of the 6k can be great for the wide of the ceremony. I do think having the option to shoot 100-120 fps is handy if you want those super slomo posed moments, in which case I think the C70 is better... but the 6k pro is a bargain.

[@heartshapedfilms]

@@AlucinorProductions the slow mo isn't really my style the AF probably would be more useful to me, though I'd probably be adapting to EF at least in the beginning and this makes the 6k pro a bargain also the braw would be nice, while maybe a bit heavy. Then again Dr and lowlight from the c70 is great. I completely agree that the c70 is the most capable out of the box run and gun camera. And one of my faves on the market right now. Hard choice I think both are great and just down to cost the 6k probably wins. If only Fuji made a cine camera

[@inknpaintCW]

Nice thorough overview of your experiences and decisions. Helpful as I shop for a camera. C70 is high on my list. I have the same feeling about Sony. (funny that your slider shot has strong hints of Sony hues though) Too many choices! BM might just be the choice for my needs but this gives me great food for thought. Thanks!

[@AlucinorProductions]

You’re very welcome. Yeah grade was a bit much on the slider shot… pushed more on purpose when I talk about Sony. FYI we just bought and 2nd c70

[@waynosfotoscameras]

Using R3, for video, does everything without rigging out, has clean shadows. No overheating.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Have heard that’s a fantastic camera! Haven’t used myself

[@chakk0]

I shot a concert with my c300 MK III a while ago. Image stabilization was enabled and when shooting that punk band pretty close i saw the stage and lights headbanging while the singer was standing still. That was super weird😂

[@AlucinorProductions]

I'm trying to picture it. That's such a weird thing. Crazy. Thanks for sharing. Do you tend to use the Digital IS? Or not so much?

[@chakk0]

@@AlucinorProductions Not so much because sometimes it sticks so strange to things. The Ibis in the r3 for example is far better, or lens IS

[@AlucinorProductions]

Yeah I feel like it's safer not to use. But am going to test extensively in a couple weeks to try to better understand. Yeah the RF lens IS is excellent

[@paulrox177]

The image quality of the R5C is absolutely amazing.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Yeah it is beautiful

[@massakidi]

I also use c70 and I personally prefer to shoot interview on manual focus, I don’t mind subject getting out of focus for a few seconds if they move, that tottering fine

[@AlucinorProductions]

Fair enough. I don’t mind manual at all if I’m operating. But if I’m doing the shoot solo I prefer having that face tracking on

[@doktorr23]

Hey, could you please tell me if the footage of the c70 and R5c is similar or quite different ? I always hear the c70 looks more filmic, while the R5c looks kinda digital like the R5. Also, is the CLOG 3 on the R5c as noisy as the R5 or has it been improved on R5c ? Thanks again!!

[@AlucinorProductions]

The r5c is sharper. Shadows are cleaner on the C70 at iso800. The C70 has slightly more DR (mainly in the shadows), but they aren't drastically different and we've done plenty of multicam interviews using both. I haven't used the R5 so can't comment on that, but you need to shoot raw if you want to process clog2 in post. I would say with the C70 you can under expose a little (to protect highlights) and bring it back up. But with the r5c you don't want to underexpose as a general rule. Unless you're leaving it there in post for artistic reasons... I will say we have since bought a second C70 since making this video. A few reasons. Way better power (batteries), built in ND's are just so vital as is mini XLR connections. And matching two C70s (one often handheld and one often on a gimbal) is easier. r5c becomes a Ccam or Bcam when the team has two shoots on one day. Love both cameras. I use the r5c in 8k raw for my bits to camera on the channel. But for general video work the C70 is the better all rounder IMO... Also just got the Canon RF-EF variable ND adaptor for the r5c so that will likely now run with our Sigma Art EF glass (as our Canon glass is RF).

[@doktorr23]

@@AlucinorProductions Thank you so much for responding! Also what lenses do you mainly use on the C70 ? I was thinking of using ef glass with speed. booster but almost all ef glass has clicking AF noise which would render my shotgun mic useless as it would pick those sounds. I could use a lav, but in run and gun style vids, it may not be as convenient as a shotgun mic. Thank you once again !

[@AlucinorProductions]

@@doktorr23 No worries. We have moved away from using the full frame adaptor. There seems to be a bit of a loss of contrast and some softness towards the edges, at least with ours - so that's basically not getting used. We do use EF lenses with an RF adaptor with control ring... But main lenses would be the zoom trinity 15-35, 24-70 and 70-200. I use the 15-35 and 70-200 far more than the 24-70 as 24-70 not quite wide enough on s35. I also use the 50mm RF a lot. The 85mm 1.2 RF for interviews (not broll) - I use that more for stills on the r5c. I'm also using the Sigma Art 18-35 1.8 and 35 1.4 a lot... still waiting on Canon to release a new RF 35mm prime. Will pounce on that. If I'm shooting 100fps broll 18-35. If it's 25-50 I use the Canon 15-35 for the lens stabilisation. We also have the Sigma Art 50, 24 and the 24-70. Canon glass definitely delivers though but I use the 18-35 A LOT for broll and the Sigma Art 35 a lot for interviews (until Canon releases the new 35)

[@doktorr23]

@@AlucinorProductions I have tired viltrox speed booster and experienced the same exact thing. Washed out look with lack of contrast and weird looking blurry edges. I was thinking it would be better on the native 0.71x adapter but guess not. I am waiting just as much as you for Canon to release a 35 f1.4. For now I am trying to make do with the rf 35 f1.8. I was also wondering how the autofocus on the sigma 18-35 performs on the C70 ? Is it reliable enough ? Sorry for so many questions and thank you so much for taking out time to respond. I really appreciate it!

[@brettthemonster]

I did the same thing about 7 months ago. Loved my 6K Pros, but decided to sell those and pick up two C70s for the autofocus and the ability to shoot in 8-bit for quick turnaround projects. Both Blackmagic and Canon make lovely cameras and I do miss the look of the 6k Pro at times, but the C70s can just do more with less effort.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Yeah for run n gun and interviews having that AF is just absolutely awesome. Makes life a lot easier. Agreed though the 6kpro image is beautiful

[@MrDeymann]

@@AlucinorProductionsI will be shooting more wildlife, etc. not really going for the soft cinematic look. I’m guessing I’d get sharper images from the full frame 45 megapixel on the R5C???? Your thoughts,please.

[@AlucinorProductions]

@@MrDeymann Absolutely get sharper images from the r5c, No doubt about that. And you can shoot s35 mode 5.9k if you want longer reach. The C70 has more Dynamic range. But 100% more detail from the r5c.

[@MrDeymann]

@@AlucinorProductions thank you. I am really wanting the c300 mkiii or even the mkii, because of the body styles mostly. I have the c100 mkii now and it is so easy to grab and shoot.

[@AlucinorProductions]

@MrDeymann I think we would have considered picking up a c300mkiii even used if not for our investment in RF glass. We now have x2 c70s. One usually has the full frame adaptor on it with Sigma Art lenses. The other s35 and RF lenses. Although they also both run s35 at times obviously too. Would love a c70 with sdi and being able to shoot ALL-I 100fps would be great… but for the price the c70 is really a fantastic and reliable tool in my experience

[@Burritosarebetterthantacos]

Im with you. I didnt think i wanted or needed AF but Im realizing sometimes it would be pretty handy. Likely selling my BM6k soon.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Even if it's just for interviews it's a massive help. Especially small or single person crews

[@CrispyJacketStudios]

Another 6k pro user here… I’m also invested in the Fuji system too as I like to shoot stills also. (Although the video on Fuji is no slouch…) 10 bit internal with beautiful colours 😮 Am I tempted to switch? Yeah, every time a manufacturer brings out a new feature which the 6kpro doesn’t have 😂 but seriously, value for money, it’s a cracking bit if kit. I’ve been using a c300 mk3 for a month and interestingly, I sent it back…, I mainly shoot on cine glass with the odd powered zoom on a photography / hybrid Len’s for run n hun. It’s all in the lens. I’m thinking of going the LiDAR route for the occasional bit of gimbal work (I hate gimbals most of the time as they’re overused. But, i do use sparingly when required while rack focusing on a dji rs3pro. It’s ok. I actually like this technique but perhaps im just a control freak? 😊

[@AlucinorProductions]

Thanks for sharing. Yeah I want to get into the LiDAR autofocus or just practicing and setting up manual focus well for gimbal work. As a bit of an “all rounder” for lack of a better word I find I’m constantly wanting to upskill or revisit different aspects of the job. Whether it’s grading, gimbal work, lighting interviews, drone etc etc

[@CrispyJacketStudios]

@@AlucinorProductions atm. I’m also an all rounder - everything from a rock music video to a wedding and most things in between… doesn’t make great business sense really to be too diverse but I balance video / photography alongside a long career in entertainment so one might say I’m erm… living the dream 🤪😎

[@wjuice2020]

Former Red Dragon 6k (DSMC1) and Komodo Owner. I switch to Canon C70 and Im not looking back. For jobs that require a Red, I just charge the client rental fee's for Arri Alexa

[@AlucinorProductions]

Great solution! May I ask, what percentage of jobs do you reckn require that? (For me it wouldn't be many, even if I'd like it)

[@PaddyCartwright]

The green shift at 10:08 hahahahaha well played sir

[@AlucinorProductions]

Stoked it hasn’t gone unnoticed! Cheers

[@PaddyCartwright]

@@AlucinorProductions I got you guys! Went to replay to double check and it kept getting funnier! Such niche Easter egg 🤣

[@zechenwei1139]

I currently have the pocket 6k pro, and as you said, the image is just too good for me to not want to shoot everything with it😂I'm also perfectly happy with pulling focus for video work. the only reason I'm still searching for cameras is that I really don't enjoy carrying a whole 2nd camera just for taking photos when I'm traveling, so I'm trying to decide if the r5c could be my perfect camera that bridges my video and photo needs. I think I might miss the awesome display on the 6k pro, internal nd, and a bit of dynamic range(highlight recovery, too) tho. What would you recommend?

[@AlucinorProductions]

You will miss the screen and the internal ND's for sure. I haven't used other current stills/video options enough to advise. But r5c is an expensive purchase so I would genuinely recommend hiring for a day and shooting in raw and 10bit alongside your 6k pro and play with it in post. See what you think. I love it for stills, but the C70 is my go to. (Shane shoots on the r5c more than me for gimbal stuff. I use the r5c for talking to camera on youtube though and the 8k is VERY handy for that). FYI we've been busy travelling the past month and a half. We'll be making a new video soon testing the r5c, C70 and BMPCC 6k pro as b-cams for our Alexa Classic (for an upcoming short) that might give you an idea of how the r5c performs next to the 6k pro (and Alexa)...

[@zechenwei1139]

@@AlucinorProductions Thank you so much for the detailed reply!! certainly some solid advice! I was thinking about renting the r5c for a week to test it out, too. I thought I'd never really know if it's for me unless I hold one in my hands and try it myself. I'm really looking forward to the new video! SUBSCRIBED!

[@AlucinorProductions]

@@zechenwei1139 Don't mention it. Thanks for subscribing! I hope we can deliver plenty of value to you in the future

[@WildHorseProductions]

Really great review. I am curious what slider you're using to film yourself? A Rhino? Or Edelkrone?

[@AlucinorProductions]

Thanks mate. Rhino Arc II

[@tdotvideoproductions]

I have the r5c Fuji xh2s and c70. im looking at replacing the xh2s as c cam with the bmcc6k full frame and using r5c as my new c cam content camera. Do you think the 6k would make a better production camera as a B cam or should I just keep the r5c/c70 combo for clients and xh2s for personal stuff?

[@AlucinorProductions]

Personally I loved the Fuji xt3 for personal use. Stills and isolated video work. But we often struggled to grade it alongside BMD cameras. I think a key factor is do you want autofocus on a second interview camera with reliable face tracking? If not the new 6k could be great. But, I do think sticking with canon (or all BMD) makes grading easier. We literally just got a second c70 as although the r5c is great and we’re keeping it. The NDs save us time and time is saved in post bringing the cameras into line. The dual gain sensor on the c70 is just so nice too. And now we’ll often have the full frame adaptor on one (with sigma 24-70, 35 or 50 art) with RF lenses on the other… or all RF depending on the needs of the job. I know that doesn’t entirely answer your question but that’s what we’ve landed on. The r5c will still get used for light gimbal work and Ccam but I expect the main A/B cam option will be c2 C70’s

[@joenicklo]

Shooting on the Komodo + Canon R5. Great pairing. Would have gone with a C70 over the R5 but I need the ability to switch to stills. At one point I would've agreed with you on Blackmagic having the best UI in the industry but I think RED has overtaken them with the DSMC3 cameras.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Awesome combo! Yeah having a high rez stills cam ready to deploy has been important for us for sure, even though it's not our main thing. Clients want the option and to not need to reach for another camera is great. Must admit I've not had much time with DSMC3, where as we owned DSMC 1 and 2. I think the Komodo is amazing

[@kristenpontbriand6062]

Great video! One question, does digital IS work with an EF adapter / EF lens?

[@AlucinorProductions]

It technically works with any lens but Canon claims it works best in tandem with RF lenses with lens IS (the zooms). I'm planning on testing them tomorrow... I could throw a Sigma EF 24-70 on with the EF adaptor to compare...

[@JasonCohenphoto]

Great video and interesting timing for myself. I have been in the Black Magic ecosystem for some time now and I am considering a move to an FX9 to fill the space of my G2. I am all Sony for stills so moving over to the Canon feels like it would be a double change up.... One additional concern for me personally is the lack of support from BMD on their older cameras. Not long after the G2 came out, BMD dropped support for the G1 and would no longer service it, meaning if anything broke it was a paperweight. That is something that certainly gives me pause from continuing to purchase from them as a full time professional who relies on my gear for work...

[@AlucinorProductions]

Hey Jason, If you've got a heap of Sony glass going that way makes a lot of sense to me. I honestly think both Sony and Canon have great offerings at the moment with different strengths but I reckon I'd be quite happy either way. I know our local rental house has had no issues with either set of cameras (Sony/Canon)... Certainly reliability has been an issue for me with our Ursa in the past, but strangely our pockets have never skipped a beat. But yeah for their more expensive offerings, I agree the lack of support would give me pause too. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[@bford1908]

You never considered the Ursa 12k? It seems like the only setback is the size in weight but then again, size and weight are pretty much everything today.

[@JasonCohenphoto]

@@bford1908 I didn't consider the 12k mostly because of service concerns with BMD. Looks like a great camera, just not confident in their philosophy of supporting previous products after the "newest, latest, and greatest" comes out

[@JasonCohenphoto]

@@AlucinorProductions thanks for the continued conversation and I look forward to more videos from you!

[@AlucinorProductions]

Cheers mate. Thankyou

[@EmeraldAudiovisual]

Canon R5C, Panasonic GH6 and BMPCC 6k here. Can't quite stretch to a C70 (yet), but the R5C is hands down one of the best hybrid shooters out there and the GH6 is actually a good B-cam to the R5C, especially when you adapt EF glass, which I also use on the R5C. I have not had the urge to upgrade to RF glass, as I can use the filter adapter on the R5C with EF glass and that means, I have sort of internal NDs.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Yep it's a good way to go for sure. We're using two vari nds (screw on) on the r5c at the moment

[@koni-video]

Doesn't autofocus work better on RF lenses?

[@EmeraldAudiovisual]

@@koni-video It's not a question of RF vs. EF. It's a question of the age of the lens. Yes .. if you stick a 20-30 year old EF lens on a RF camera, then it won't be as fast as a RF lens from 2-3 years ago. But there are loads of fairly modem EF lenses, that are as fast and as good as equivalent RF lenses. I mean .. if you buy a cheapo non-L RF lens and compare it to a late EF L lens ... the EF L lens will win.

[@baekmedier]

got the same setup.. But i found that the c70 works even better with the speedbooster also from canon and EF glas. The R5C simply doesent work without the battery grib, its just how it is.. (i have an fx lion for backup battery also since it thews trough battery lige crazy) and then with the canon ND adaptor you have "build in" ish and can use the same EF mount glas for both cameras. together with two tentacles track E that has 32-bit float together with three timecode generators (the new one) is brilliant. Just saying :) and get an buttom plate for the c70 that is centeret it will make you go crazy working with tripods.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Thanks for the info! Def havent nailed the support kit yet. Yeah we're mainly powering the r5c with a vlock.

[@baekmedier]

My fav. is the nano two from FX Lion.. but i have to try the new small rigg 99 ones.. think it could be a nice setup.

[@baekmedier]

@@AlucinorProductions btw. the battery grib with the new original batteries gives you 138 minutes of Record time in XF-AVC 4K..

[@AlucinorProductions]

That's decent!

[@recordbutton1845]

The reason the UI on BM is so simple is there is not really a lot of things you can change compared to Sony and Canon. Still it is nice. I think you're starting to see Canon and Sony introduce menu systems that can be a bit of either.

[@AlucinorProductions]

True it is simpler. Less options. But it's exceptionally well designed and intuitively laid out imo

[@NickDelDuca]

I agree with you I switched from Sony a7siii to the Canon R5C, The Sony colors are manageable in good lighting conditions but in certain situations they are just downright disgusting. I film a lot of live performances and specifically stage lights or less than ideal lighting conditions the Sony colors just go haywire and you have to play absolute hell to wrangle them in.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Understood. Yeah I find for my paid work I'm also often shooting in less than ideal conditions. I'm also giving a lot of footage to the client to use in future edits just with the REC709 lut applied. So I want to give them an image that out of the box - looks quite natural and nice and Canon definitely delivers that.

[@VilkanVisions]

I'm considering getting FX30 for B cam to my Pocket 6k, mainly to get AF for some dance videos etc. I'm not a fan of Canon cameras, and their color science is overrated for me personally.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Yeah I wonder when BMD will (if ever?) implement autofocus. RED did it first. Crazy. It's definitely been handy having a couple of cameras with it, particularly for interviews for us. I didn't like the old FS7, FS5 colors but the new batch are much improved (personally still prefer Canon and BMD's though)

[@SaintProductions1]

BMD needs to step up. They are following behind.

[@VilkanVisions]

@@SaintProductions1 They're targeting different customers, we could also say Arri should step up their game and make AF but they probably don't care because they make cinema cameras 😅 They're focusing on different aspects of filmmaking and I think BM is already killing it for price their offer cameras. For image quality, codecs, usability they're leading industry in that price point.

[@AlucinorProductions]

@@VilkanVisions true. But many people like myself are using them to shoot "branded content"... if they had AF... wow. But your right they are called cinema cameras for a reason. They're made as excellent image quality, best value digital film production cameras and they empower a lot of filmmakers at a fraction of the budget of other manufacturers

[@VilkanVisions]

@@AlucinorProductions Yes, all we want is a perfect camera :D

[@weztastudio6170]

I am doing the same thing actually, selling my g2 to stay with r5c , because i find my self filming 1 man band more often, and with r5c it is easier

[@AlucinorProductions]

Yep that autofocus for interviews in particular is HUGE. Still love the G2 but for one man band it's a bit of a no brainer.

[@talkintome181]

Hello there, for shooting a feature film on a budget, i am doubting. The c70 can do RAW, IS and auto focus, wich I would love to use since I'm on a budget. But of course, the image is very important. So can i Color grade c70 raw looking like BMPCC? Very curious to your answer, because you make the image cinematic! Thanks, nicolaas

[@AlucinorProductions]

Both cameras have great images. BRAW is my favourite codec though. I'm mostly shooting corporate work in 4k 10 bit and getting good results for that work... im planning to do a best Alexa bcam vid comparing the bmpcc 6k pro with the c70 and r5c, matching with the Alexa. Would that be useful to you? Honestly I think both the BMPCC or C70 are great Indie cameras... but I will test them out for this purpose soon for a big short were shooting next year

[@talkintome181]

@@AlucinorProductions That would be great!! And maybe, is it possible to match the raw footage of the c70 vs Braw in davincie. If so, then I could buy them both, knowing that I certainly have one shot (c70) sharp? Thanks and looking forward to the alexa comparising, ik will be much appreciated by us indie filmmakers! gr,n

[@AlucinorProductions]

Sure thing... I have a couple other videos to finish first, lots of travel at the moment... but will then make it.

[@SaintProductions1]

Nice video… I’m a Ursa 12k shooter. I feel that BMD isn’t releasing the camera that most of us want. I’ve been waiting on a B-cam to my Ursa 12k for a while now. I am not interested in their older sensors (pocket 6k, Broadcast G2, Ursa Mini Pro G2); I do not like investing in old tech. They have released cam’s BUT I do not care about the Pocket 6k G2/Broadcast G2. This isn’t what I want at all! I’m looking for a smaller form factor that has my 12k sensor or a newer sensor (that can possible record in other codecs). & a coupe of other upgrades. Another camera that I think about purchasing is an Arri Mini LF or 35; but yeah that’s very pricy lmao For certain gigs, I find myself renting out 3-4 Sony’s (Sony Fx6, Sony Fx3…etc). I just can’t see myself totally investing in them though.

[@AlucinorProductions]

I hear you. I do wonder if they've been held up by slowed production lines of sensors and other parts. Ursa 12k looks great. How are you finding it? Is just braw ever an issue? I think down the track we will get an amira or mini that our classic will become a bcam for... but that's less for faster paced corporate content... where these Canons excell

[@SaintProductions1]

​@@AlucinorProductions When i was making my decision on which camera to purchase (with the budget I had, at the time); the Ursa 12k checked off a lot of the boxes, I was looking for. I also wanted to future proof my self, for the next 3-4yrs. When I seen what the Komodo was offering, canon c300 mark iii & other cameras in that price range, I decided the Ursa 12k was the best for me. I still don’t like that it ONLY records in Braw, but I have options to work around that.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Yep, I hear ya. I always recorded braw on my Ursa G2. But prores got a run for some freelance shoots and when I rented it for an Amazon football doco I know they were shooting prores.

[@louie8488]

I've had a C70 for about a year now and have loved it, though I'm thinking of switching to sony for ease of use, specifically autofocus, in body stabilisation, low light capability and form factor. Though I feel like I'll regret selling my C70. I own an R7 which I use as a B cam, it's ok but the image isn't quite there for me. Exposure has to be perfect or it looks a bit muddy, and even then it's only ok imo. However, using the R7 for handheld doco kind of stuff is a dream, the IBIS and form factor makes grabbing B roll really enjoyable. I'm hoping to have a similar experience with the fx3 but with better image quality than the r7.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Thanks for sharing! Let me know how you go if you switch! I hear you on the c70 though, very nice image out of the box... though that vari nd and low light ability of Sony would be pretty rad...

[@Jaxplode]

I have the URSA 12K and I sometimes think maybe I need a bit of a lighter camera with also great quality for run&gun

[@AlucinorProductions]

Understand. I love our Ursa G2. Didn’t mind the weight and we had the pocket 6k pro as well (still do) but I started really craving a camera with decent face tracking autofocus for interviews.. especially when I was doing shoots on my own. The canon (Sony would too) gives a lot of confidence and I can shoot wide open no worries

[@Jaxplode]

@@AlucinorProductions I see. That’s a valid point. But did you manual focus when working the URSA G2?

[@AlucinorProductions]

@@Jaxplode yes always manual. LiDAR wasn’t really a thing yet. So shooting interviews at 1.4 on your own was no easy feat

[@Jaxplode]

@@AlucinorProductions Shooting an Interview @1.4 in General is a bit of a challenge even with autofocus.

[@AlucinorProductions]

@@Jaxplode I use the canon 50 at 1.2 all the time with autofocus

[@DocumentaryVisions]

What are your thoughts on the Canon c100 mark ii camera.... your thoughts ?

[@AlucinorProductions]

Great camera but dated. I need 4K and preferably a great 10bit codec internally. C70 delivers that and more DR. I also personally need 120fps without cropping. I personally wouldn’t buy one, not to say it’s a bad camera but there’s huge benefits to shooting 4K+ even if you’re delivering 1080p. And the 24mbps internal data rate is really very low. For faced paced doco or news gathering I’d say it’s great. What would be your intended use for it?

[@DocumentaryVisions]

@@AlucinorProductions I bought one a year ago a step up from the 80D to get a feel into the cinema roll. Budget wise it was a good deal and most of my stuff is KZbin content. The C70 was 8000.00 Canadian. I agree the center autofocus is a pain but I do have it rigged with a follow-focus System. If budget is an issue what would the next step up ?

[@DocumentaryVisions]

@@AlucinorProductions youtube.com/@athousandwords_docustories

[@DocumentaryVisions]

@@AlucinorProductions if you can't afford a C70 nor have the projects to warrant the purchase can you make the C100 mrk ii working in today's world... technology chasing is an enormous weight.

[@AlucinorProductions]

I agree, it’s about tools that make your work faster, easier and look better. I don’t know if it’d make your work faster but probably look at a BMPCC 6k pro. It’s got the NDs, x2 mini xlr, 6k, 4K or 1080p without cropping the sensor. Braw or prores. Just no autofocus but is the same EF Mount. Quite a bit cheaper than the C70. Otherwise the c200 has dropped in price significantly and is a much more current camera. Ideally it’d have 10bit… but you can shoot 8bit for KZbin etc and have raw internally if and when you need it and it does 60fps

[@girafingo9280]

Direction to talent with an AF system - ''please rock back and forth more''.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Everytime lol... I couldn't keep my son in the frame in this

[@doghot5374]

about digital is, it's best to use with lenses without optical image stablization, otherwise you get stutter movement. the only exception is canon R7, which is quite good for stablization with lens is, almost no stutter, however the whole image is wobbling for wide lenses

[@AlucinorProductions]

Interesting. We've found the digital IS to work well with the optical IS but have ended up deciding its pretty much not worth using on the primes as it just doesn't feel natural enough and jerks around. And the optical IS is pretty darn good that the digital doesnt add much. TBH I'm not using it at all now (digital IS)... I find shooting off the shoulder mostly eliminates micro jitters, but I'm waiting for a new zacuto grip to come in so I can run n gun with one arm/grip... sold the others with our Ursa which was a bit dumb... but I find shoulder with an evf brings so much stabilisation... and the added weight with a vct pro baseplate helps stabilise for underslung shooting. I'd been doing shoots (whilst waiting on new gear) with a very bare bones light weight setup. Just using two hands out in front to get certain angles and the jitters were there for sure

[@artstories5828]

Thanks for the video! Some random thoughts as I was watching it.... -- I've got two C70s + one r5c, and currently considering a third C70. Wouldn't get a C500 ii or C300 iii (or another r5c -- just not as reliable as C70, especially for long recordings -- it still has limited record time, and still overheats). And I'm also still using 1DC and 5D3 cameras for particular jobs. So, that tells you what I think of Canon. But, that said.... -- Autofocus. So, you emphasised that you like autofocus during interviews, especially for shallow depth of field. It gives you peace of mind, etc. Personally, and maybe it's just me, I switch off autofocus during interviews, and I wouldn't recommend it for this use case. The thing is, if the talent leans forwards or backwards, and you're using a photography lens, well... Maybe the talent stays in focus, but you also get this obvious, artificial-looking, shot-destroying lens breathing, especially for shallow depth of field. Not only does this breathing make the shot ugly, but it makes it difficult to do any sort of "replacement" work (if you need to cover up something in the background of the interview -- like signage outside a window or a power outlet on a wall). And if your interview subject is a leaner and does this all the freaking time, then it's not the sort of thing you can cover up with a bit of overlay. Perhaps that's down to my settings, though.... Maybe you could set the camera to not adjust focus so quickly.... But, then, does that defeat the purpose of leaving autofocus on at all? But, yep, autofocus is indispensable for gimbal work. Don't leave home without it! And it's also great for initially acquiring focus; none of us is getting any younger, and everyone's eyes succumb to age-related myopia in the end. The green box that assists manual focus is great on the C70, by the way. -- Digital IS. I wouldn't recommend this either!! Maybe if you're doing a macro shot and want a bit of extra smoothness. The problem, as long-haired you mentioned, is the jumping. Particularly if you're using a close-up lens, you're going to get this all the time... And definitely if you're on some other form of stabiliser, like a tripod or a gimbal, turn that damn thing off. Even with cameras from 20 years ago, it wasn't recommended to have IS on with tripods. -- Cheers for mentioning that 50p to 25p in post doesn't have the same motion blur. A lot of people I know simply shoot in 50p as a matter of course for the option of slow-down in post, but, yup, it doesn't look quite the same. -- Three negatives with RF lenses.... Firstly, cost, when compared with EF. Secondly, with the C70, you get the extra stop when using EF + speedbooster. That's a big deal to many people; I guess it depends what you're shooting. Thirdly, the RF 70-200 can't be used with a doubler (again, your mileage will of course vary as to whether this is a turn-off). Otherwise, the reduction in weight with the 70-200 is welcome.... -- Your Arri Alexa Classic -- gorgeous images. Better than everything else in this video! Thanks for sharing.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Agreed the Arri Alexa Classic still has the nicest image easy. (Just not in low light). I've literally shot hundreds of interviews on the Canon's with autofocus. Haven't had leaning be an issue. Maybe I've been lucky with the leaners lol... The peace of mind of the AF is huge especially when shooting at F1 (with speedbooster) or 1.2 on the RF 50mm. I've predominantly shot with RF lenses, with a Sigma Art 35mm standing in until Canon release their 35. However I've recently had a bunch of doco/promo corporate shoots in uncontrolled (sometimes dim) lighting. Recruitment videos for different industries in places like big kitchens and underground mines (sometimes quite dark). For those shoots I opted for the Canon speedbooster and shot solely with EF Sigma Art 24-70 2.8, 35mm 1.4 and 50mm 1.4. I don't have a 70-200 EF so missed a few shots that I would have shot on those, but I spend most of my time between 18-50mm so the compromise was worth it. I could have hired one but didn't lol. Last week I switched back to S35 as I was predominantly outdoors in sunlight and knew I'd need the RF 70-200 for a bunch of shots. I find the Speedbooster a great tool for the right project. And the IS on the Sigma 24-70 (compared to my most common s35 Corporate lens, the Sigma 18-35mm with no IS) is very handy when shooting standard frame rates. I do A LOT of 100fps Broll and don't need any Lens IS for that. But when shooting 25fps it comes in handy for sure.

[@artstories5828]

​@@AlucinorProductions Re the leaners, I've got a suspicion.... You mention you've shot hundreds of interviews. But is it possible that in every one of those interviews, you always had at least a few metres' separation between your interview subject and their background? If so, then I think having that separation is a handy tip for anyone wanting to use autofocus. In my normal setup, I've got a window about a metre behind the interview subject, and then the background in the far distance. It's on the window frame that the effects of breathing are most noticeable. I'm usually using a 50mm at around f/8, so it's not super shallow.

[@AlucinorProductions]

@@artstories5828 I usually aim to have as much depth as possible so yeah backgrounds are usually at a distance. I'm also most often at 1.2 - 1.4 so that may also limit the visibility of breathing as the backgrounds are most often extremely out of focus. Just seems the look clients like the most.

[@aarong2374]

now canon needs to make a r5c with internal NDs. Would be a dream device for me.

[@AlucinorProductions]

100% agree. We were just talking about this in the office and we’re pondering picking up a 2nd c70. Whoever puts changeable internal nds in their mirrorless camera first is gonna sell a shed load of them. Makes such a difference and is the main reason we’re pondering a 2nd c70 for fast paced corporate shoots

[@maqeel325]

Awseome review. i saw what you did with the colors when you said SONY ! hahah.. subtle but effective. :)

[@AlucinorProductions]

Thanks mate!!! Good spot. Glad you got something out of the vid

[@DARANGULAFILM]

The autofocus and stabiliser functions as demonstrated by your Canons have really come a long-long way. My recall is that from go with its original XL1, the Canon color rendition was the best. My camera assets are distinctly low-budget. More recently I have been getting by with multiple copies of dead cameras and arriving at enough bits and pieces to build a goer. That tends to leave a person several generations behind the latest and greatest. Recently I have managed to upgrade to the Ursa Mini Pro G1. My previous camera is an Ursa Mini 4.6K which is also a bitzer put together with some Mini Pro pieces. BM must have sold lot of Mini Pro G1s or they might have had a high mortality rate as I have had a bountiful harvest. Sadly for me but good for BM and owners, the Ursa G2s and 12Ks seem to be staying together much better as distressed examples are not turning up on eBay. Your G2 experience seems to be an exception. I would like to have used the Mini Pro ND filter wheel assembly on the Ursa Mini 4.6K but there was too much difference between the two types for this to happen. Whilst essentially keeping the same form, BM does not seem to have sat on its hands. There have been many subtle changes, redesign work and generally the product seems to have matured. My compromise with the Ursa 4.6K was to add an internal IRND filter on the back of the anti-reflection cone in the camera throat and shim the mount forward to compensate for the change in flange to focal plane distance the filter introduces. I did this to bring the intensity of outdoors daylight down to sensible levels without having to cart matteboxes and filters around or use fast shutter and pinpoint apertures. It is as expected not so good in low light conditions but for my purposes I can live with that. The "new" Mini Pro has BRAW, so I shall have to come to grips with that in Resolve which I in my geriatricy have finally just managed to learn my way around.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Facinating! Sounds like a lot of work!!! I think I switched to Resolve about 2 years ago. Really happy and comfortable with it now, but still with so much to learn

[@digitaldevigner4080]

Also a one time owner of a Canon XL1. Loved that odd little beast. Left Canon during the DSLR video era when the video was line skipped and looked like artifact filled 720p video. It was an interesting creative look but the purist in me just couldn’t accept the artifacts of line skipping and over sharpening. After many years on the Panasonic side Im now back 100% Canon. Canon had a rather dark era where they purposely limited their cameras and refused 4K but those days do appear to be over now. Still a few head scratcher decisions like a histogram that disappears while recording but for the most part I have learned to live with those issues.

[@blazotatar8611]

Great video! I' m leaning to c70 but scared of c90 or c70mk2, after all, it's almost 3 years "old" camera, do you recomend buying it in late 2022? :)

[@marioskarageorgiou6758]

C70 anounced at 24th Sep 2020. It's 2 years old. I think it's safe to invest in c70 with all chip shortage issues today. All brands are delaying their new cameras and provide firmware updates to existing ones to avoid chip shortage issues. C70 also is deal breaker for what it is and imo I think Canon will update after a couple of years or so!

[@AlucinorProductions]

Well we just bought it 4-5 months back so yeah I think I could recommend it. But there is always something better coming, it's more about fulfilling a need and making your job easier/faster. The Canons have done that for corporate content. For us Autofocus was a big part of this. I still think it's probably the best allrounder. But if low light is the main focus, than maybe an FX6 is a better option

[@AlucinorProductions]

@@marioskarageorgiou6758 Yeah I reckon covid and the whole chip shortage has slowed the pace of new releases for sure! Would love if the C70 got facetracking at 120p... Is it just a dream? I dunno. We'll see

[@ponnan1]

Fantastic video .. explained well with real life examples

[@AlucinorProductions]

Thanks mate, really appreciate it

[@matthewqnelson]

I switched to the c70 this year too! Still have my 6kpro but soooo many problems with it.

[@AlucinorProductions]

What problems are you having with the 6k pro? Which image do you prefer? Thanks for watching and commenting

[@matthewqnelson]

The first one I bought the ND filters got stuck and stopped working two days after purchase (got a replacement camera). On the documentary that's on my channel, we used two BMPCC 6k Pros, the two-pin 12v power supply stopped powering my camera and it wouldn't turn on. I can only use a d-tap to dummy battery with it. Then my buddies started having glitches and artifacts on his footage during recordings. Black Magic was no help when I asked them to repair my camera. The image is great but I don't trust it. I like both the images for different reasons. They are really hard to compare, and I don’t favor either. To me the ergonomics / reliability of the c70 wins over image. I love the c70 when shooting it in raw, even though you need to do noise reduction.

[@AlucinorProductions]

@@matthewqnelson thanks for all the info. Really great to hear others experiences. I've heard of heaps of issues with the 6k pro. I've fortunately had none so far, but it's spending lots of time in the cupboard now with the c70 and r5c getting run off their feet. We just take it in case a canon camera fails on us.

[@matthewqnelson]

@@AlucinorProductions hopefully they get it sorted in the future, I really enjoy their cameras.

[@AlucinorProductions]

@@matthewqnelson 100% image is great and its still the camera I recommend for low budget filmmaking.

[@ThorstenBergContentCreator]

Hi tere. Nice video and content. What is your power solution for the R5C?

[@AlucinorProductions]

Thanks! Currently just an idx vlock. Battery to dtap adaptor... Am curious to check out those new small smallrig vlocks

[@Ootini4]

You should check out the Phantom LUTs if you want to get "Arri like" colors out of the cameras. I've been using them on the C70 and R6 and love them!

[@AlucinorProductions]

I’ll check em out. Thanks for the tip

[@MrMolotov69]

Is there a big difference in video quality between the r5c and r5 considering they have the same sensor? Specially 4k hq and raw modes.

[@AlucinorProductions]

I'm not sure sorry. Haven't shot with the r5 or shot with them side by side

[@timlongstudios]

I shoot with 2 R5's and they are amazing. Planning on getting a C70 in the future and hoping canon releases an update to remove the 30 minute limit on the R5. RF lenses are just beasts!

[@AlucinorProductions]

Yep agreed they are fantastic. I am sometimes after more "vintage character" but that's for select projects. For glass I own and can use on a multitude of projects video and stills I want great clean glass. The Canon RF lenses more than deliver that

[@timlongstudios]

@@AlucinorProductions yup, I so get what you mean. There is this quality that the RF glass paired with these machines that is Godlike in nature and thus has a "too perfect" experience sometimes for me. And when I shoot for clients I use almost exclusively RF glass because I know I won't miss. AND I've shot with older ef glass and there is a distinct and noticeable "vintage character" as you put it that is missing at times from the new glass. I don't mind the trade off.

[@avdcam]

One thing to keep in mind with the 15-35 CanonF2.8 vs the Sigma 18-35 F1.8, since it's a full frame lens you can use it fully on the R5C its important to consider the crop factor effecting the effective aperture. The Sigma on the C70 would be equivalent to a fullframe f2.5 (because the crop factor of the C70 is 1.43) so the Canon lens on a full frame body will provide a very close look to the R5C in regards to background blur and similar fields of view. Also out of curiosity, did you discover the luminance (LCD backlight) setting in the C70 monitor settings? I found I needed it set to +2 for anything outdoors, but I've seen a lot of reviewers of the camera complain about the brightness of the screen not knowing you could increase it, since it's a poorly named setting. So just curious if you found that setting and what you send to run it in +1 or +2, thanks!

[@AlucinorProductions]

I did discover that setting! Then forgot about it lol. I'll go back into it tomorrow. Still a lot dimmer than that bmpcc 6k pro monitor qhich is bright and contrasty... but normally have a ninja v on top... waiting for my zacuto kameleon LPe6 power adaptor as not running with vlocks like I was with the Ursa... As for the 18-35... it's def just for the 6k pro and the c70. Not going near the r5c. But it's a great match for the c70. I can shoot a lot of 50-100p broll on that and the 50mm. Actually thinking of picking up a Sigma 35 1.4 art until Canon releases an rf one. Just to use with an ef control ring adaptor which we have for the 18-35. Be nice to have a 35mm prime for the r5c too (as of course the 18-35 doesn't cover it and isn't as fast)

[@avdcam]

@@AlucinorProductions Totally, I just try to remind myself, that if I'm on a full frame camera, the f2.8 lenses are a lot close to the field of view and depth of field control as the F1.8 on a crop sensor. So often much more comparable than otherwise. It's more like comparing a 15-35 f2.8 to a 25-50 F2.5, if all things were equal. I still can't believe they haven't released a 35mm, but if the rumors are true maybe it will be an f1.2. Might be worth getting an ef art lens, and hell while you are at it, pick up the speed booster canon makes for the c70, I do find the occasional ghosting flare that hurts contrast a bit with it, but overall it really performs decently with the old canon ef primes. And to be honest, I sometimes find the sigma motors a little loud and breathing just brutal. It's also great to hear someone finally mention shooting wide open in full daylight, and how 6-7 stops of ND just isn't even close to enough at 24p. I used Sony cameras for years and while the vari ND system is powerful and kind of magic, I still prefer having the option to drop in 10 stops of ND on a whim.

[@AlucinorProductions]

@@avdcam 100% on all fronts. I'm gonna be soon happy if they release a 35 1.2. That's why I thought go the sigma route for now (cheaper, and have sigma zooms for 6k) as I know ow we'll fork out for the 35mm rf when it arrives. We do have the Canon speedbooster. But the only lens I'd use on it atm (due to selling ef zeiss lenses) would be the 24-70 sigma art. Which if running on a gimbal we might do... 🤔

[@avdcam]

@@AlucinorProductions AN F2.8 on a gimbal at full frame is a nice fit. The speedbooster does limit AF performance more, but I really like that extra range sometimes. Your RF 24-70 would be excellent on the R5C for gimbal work I would imagine. Since sometimes the build in IS can help, sometimes it doesn't, depends I think on the gimbal settings and operator. Sometimes they fight each other, other times it adds a noticeable smoothness. I wish you could power the R5c from the ronin, but I think the USB pd off the ronin isn't powerful enough. Could be worth looking into tilta's accessories for unslung mini v-mounts and quick releases so you could keep the R5C ready to rock at a moments notice on the gimbal and power all day.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Thanks yeah definitely need to look into better configuration options. And yp the 24-70 is on the r5c most of the time for gimbal duties (so far)

[@marklondon8793]

Fantastic video. Great insight. cheers.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Thanks mate. Appreciate it

[@ERJOL]

Great upgrade 🤘 I have the pocket 4k and Fujifilm xh1 might sound ueehhhgg but is what I can afford and mostly invest in skills and light/gaffer. Once i get more jobs it will make sense to upgrade to better system specially with new cam coming with great autofocus.

[@AlucinorProductions]

100% mate. Gear comes and goes, it's gotta work financially for you. They're just tools. The focus on making engaging stories/videos, lighting and cinematography is where it's at... And pocket 4k produces a great image too... I reckon you'll be stoked when you get a cam with internal ND's though. Haven't used to XH1 but I loved the Xt3

[@ERJOL]

@@AlucinorProductions yeh those internal NDs what my heart cries ahah i do rent my friends C70 some time when i have good paid project's. Xh1 was overshadowed by xt3 literally release few months after xh1.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Oh right... thats how it goes sometimes

[@jordimarti1580]

I shoot with two C70 and one R5C because all what you said in the video

[@AlucinorProductions]

Awesome! choice 🙂

[@marioskarageorgiou6758]

I have c70, BM 6k Pro and R6 for stills and I'm super happy... BUT as much as I love c70 and believe also that there is no camera under 10k that can provide such an amazing image quality and all of these specs... my heart tends to be a little more on the 6k Pro! Can I explain it? No! P.S. That Arri Alexa Classic image is still above competition... so so beautiful!!!

[@marioskarageorgiou6758]

Not to forget... a few days ago I got a reply to my email from Juan Melara when back then I asked him if he plans to make an Arri LUT for c70 (I had purchased BM 6k Pro LUT already and it really transformed my 6k pro to a baby Alexa). So, he replied that Canon2alexa LUT for c70 is for sale and immediately I bought it! Then I tested c70 and 6k Pro, same composition, same lens and the Luts from Juan Melara and I could match them very easily! Just a tad of difference in exp & contrast and they were twins! So happy that I can match my c70 with 6k pro!! I hope it helps!! Best Regards!

[@AlucinorProductions]

@@marioskarageorgiou6758 Thanks mate! I will check that out for sure. I definitely use his luts/powergrades... also cinematch on corporate content to bring together different cameras. And yep I know what you mean about the 6k pro it really does produce a beautiful image... I'm literally gonna get hat powergrade today. Thanks Again!!! And yes I agree on the Alexa

[@Dannyhallfilms]

I shoot with a canon C70 and R3. Honestly really happy with the combo though my wallet was not 🤢🤣 I do both photo and video work for brands and businesses locally and shoot weddings. personally I love the c70 for many of the reasons you mentioned. It's been a dream camera for me! the few things I wanted in a b cam to compliment the c70 were Ibis, a Raw option, and ability to take photos! Also I really wanted something more rugged and weather sealed for shooting in the PNW weather as I've always felt the c70 really lacked in that area. The R3, while expensive, check all those boxes and has great battery life. Miss some of the video features(false color, etc) but I've been working around it. Might eventually add an R5c as my C cam. Would make a great photo compliment to my r3 when I need more resolution, and a great 3rd camera when needed.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Thanks for taking the time to respond! Sounds like you a rocking a great setup that works for you!

[@AlucinorProductions]

I haven't actually tried the r3 yet... will have to get my hands on one...

[@Dannyhallfilms]

@@AlucinorProductions pretty solid! Oversampled 4K in clog 3 with ibis 👌 but for me the build quality and battery life are so good. I've had two weddings this summer have a load of rain. I quickly tucked away my c70 and just kept shooting with my r3. It was soaked but the weather sealing held up well and it wasn't even phased. Also the auto focus is way ahead of the c70 so it's just a breeze to use.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Thanks for the info... im looking up the r3 now... for certain handheld work that ibis could be handy... I've just had some bad ibis experiences on other cams (corner wobbles on wides)...

[@Dannyhallfilms]

@@AlucinorProductions I haven't experienced any of the wobbles yet. However the widest angle I usually shoot with is 24 mm. I imagine you could see some of it if you shot at 15 mm but haven't tested it.

[@AGENCY1765]

We also just changed from Sony Equip (FX3's) to 2 x Canon C70's and love them! The range of projects we are able to shoot with the C70 is super useful and the image is amazing.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Agreed amazing image

[@SandrodiCarloDarsa]

Hey, why didn't you go to FX6? I'm struggling now, lost between FX6 and C70... mostly for pure documentary works.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Either camera would be fantastic for that kind of work. In my opinion the image/color on the Canon is better out of the box, and the dynamic range is wider. Fx6 has better low light capabilities and autofocus though. So it depends on what you're priorities are. For us color was vital and the Autofocus is more than good enough for interviews.

[@SandrodiCarloDarsa]

@@AlucinorProductions I see, thank you for your answer :)

[@jweddy]

I’m working for a private school in Gold Coast, and we’ve got a C70 on the way to pair up with our R6. Only just starting in shooting more talking heads, event coverage and micro stories for the school. Glad to hear you enjoy the 15-35 and 24-70 as those are on order! Will be subscribing and paying attention to anything I may find helpful! Thanks for the informative video!

[@AlucinorProductions]

Thanks mate appreciate it! Both great lenses! Enjoy

[@johnnyweissmuller5838]

You should try the Phantom Luts for the sony cameras, its really the only lut you should use for slog3

[@AlucinorProductions]

I've heard they're great! (from people on KZbin) Alas, I have no Sony cameras at the moment... except an old AS7i in the cupboard.

[@avarmadillo]

Agree about Canon color. There's something wrong with the Sony image.

[@AlucinorProductions]

At the high end (venice) they're AMAZING. But yeah at the FX6, FX9 level I still find the Canon color more pleasing for sure. Sony continue to close the gap though... Now if Canon could only match sony for dynamic range...

[@propellavideo]

Do you have the speed booster? I’ve heard it has a purple spot in the centre? Has anyone found this?

[@AlucinorProductions]

I do have it but rarely use it. But just did 3 days with it up North. Shooting s35 today though. Was on sigma 24-70 and 35mm with the speed booster. RF today. Will check the footage over when back and let you know

[@timelessamor]

Did you ever use the r5c with the bmpcc 6k?

[@AlucinorProductions]

Yeah did a four camera shoot with the 6k, Ursa G2, r5c and c70.

[@geertgermonpre7530]

I have the C70 and leave the image stabilisation off. It ruins your shot with lots of jitter.

[@AlucinorProductions]

That's for feedback! Even on zooms? I haven't seen issues on the 15-35... but Shane said he did on the 24-70 on the r5c and I certainly did on the 50mm

[@elgreco3000]

How does the Highlight rolloff compare between the Canon C70 and Black Magic Pocket Pro or Ursa?

[@AlucinorProductions]

Based on my tests which weren't amazingly scientific. The c70 has them both beat. Not by heaps in the highlights but the difference is there. The shadows are MUCH cleaner though if your under 75fps... that gap is gone when shooting high frame rates.

[@elgreco3000]

@@AlucinorProductions yeah I’ve heard a lot about the recovery if you under expose. Not much online regarding the highlight roll off or recovery. Thanks for the reply.

[@AlucinorProductions]

You're welcome

[@techtrx]

R5C the best

[@AlucinorProductions]

It’s a great camera. Why is it your preference?

[@techtrx]

@@AlucinorProductions great for run and gun. Great hybrid camera with 8K 60p RAW. Used to shoot with lumix. But fell in love with canon colors (pp). Tried the zv-e1 as well slog3 but that was so bad. It doesnt do well on hues and tints vs clog3. Right now i got the canon r5C as main and r8 as my B cam

[@AlucinorProductions]

Thanks for the info! Great combo

[@thomasmanning9111]

Great video!

[@AlucinorProductions]

Thanks mate!

[@dingdong5601]

10:01 You're prob going to get a lot of flack for this comment but I completely agree. And I shot exclusively on Sony for 10yrs.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Thanks. They certainly have come a long way and we did seriously consider Sony

[@jijivishant]

I don't think I have the money for r5c, I am going to buy bmpcc 6kg2 in 2 3 months

[@AlucinorProductions]

It's a great camera

[@NightOnEarth_o]

Funny how the color changes when you mention the Sony color!

[@AlucinorProductions]

Cheers

[@onlysublime]

Red cameras also use rf so you wouldn't be locked in

[@AlucinorProductions]

Good point!

[@slipoch6635]

it's a bit of a bugger canon have banned any 3rd party rf lenses.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Is it all RF? Or just RF with autofocus? We picked up a PL adaptor for cine lenses... that's a shame though. Sigma Arts in RF would be great

[@slipoch6635]

@@AlucinorProductions I suspect it will cover all rf, but possibly they are starting with AF/IS lenses that communicate with the camera.

[@JRidgely]

I actually left Canon for Blackmagic. Canon has a very high end video camera look where Blackmagic has a very filmic look imho. I’ll probably Aquire some Sony FX cameras later on to compliment my BM cameras for documentary or Events. All cameras are just tools. There is no perfect camera.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Agreed. Just shooting a short on Venice 2, FX6 and Alexa classic (for flashbacks). Def just about going with the tool that works best for the job. Either Canon or Sony are great all rounders for video production. We still have the BMPCC 6k pro (it’s so good), just not the Ursa

[@acedia4453]

Definitely a downgrade in image as far as narrative work goes but needed if you're doing wedding/docu work that requires quick setups.

[@AlucinorProductions]

Yep as I say in the video they're our content cameras not our cinema cameras. (Have an Alexa for that... will do some tests to see what works better matching in between our 6k, c70 and r5c) Do you mean downgrade from the Ursa?

[@acedia4453]

@@AlucinorProductions All Canon = pastel video. 'Cinematic' video, but video. KZbin is full of these tests and it is always the BM cameras that wind up taking the B-Roll to Alexa's sensor trophy. British drama sets are what pulled BM from closing down when the original 2.5K was picked up by Luther, Sherlock and a few other productions to run with their Alexa lines.

[@AlucinorProductions]

@@acedia4453 very cool. Certainly not selling our 6k pro. I was just giving a talk at a Tafe this week recommending they buy one if buying a camera for Indi cinema. Yeah Canon certainly has a look and it's great for corporate work imo

[@EchtAgrar]

i´m an happy gopro youser becos of cep

[@AlucinorProductions]

What's cep?

[@EchtAgrar]

@@AlucinorProductions = not expensif

[@AlucinorProductions]

@@EchtAgrar fair point!

[@NathanKatash]

cant agree - i own fx3 and fx6 love canon colors but now i can use internal lut with both and with the right lut it looks better then canon in every situation and fx6 is ff with better af and better connections also auto nd is amazing if colors is what you want i hope you didnt used the sh***t s-cinatone bad colors and you loose tone of DR for sure it dosent look like venice

[@AlucinorProductions]

That Sony ND is magic stuff. I agree the new Sony line - FX9, 6, 3 etc are huge improvements in color. Still happy with Canon for now (I'd likely adapt and be happy with Sony if I went that route) but very VERY happy with the C70 and clients are happy too which is awesome. When the cost makes sense we'll pick up a used Alexa Mini most likely, our classic is just too darn hefty for a lot of our work. But color wise it honestly smokes both Canon and Sony

[@NathanKatash]

@@AlucinorProductions well i can agree with some of the thing you said but i also own amira same sensor and colour as the mini and with the right lut the color i get with the amira result’s are really close

[@AlucinorProductions]

Yep I’d be happy with an Amira too. But I think the mini is just a bit more versatile for gimbal work etc

[@NathanKatash]

@@AlucinorProductions if Greig Fraser say that the fx3 is amazing and this is the camera he will use for the next film he shoot in thailand i think you are ok with what you have :)

[@AlucinorProductions]

FYI we just did a big short film shoot on Venice 2 and fx6 as bcam. Will have more on that in the future

[@lkptlst3256]

C70 is more practical but in terms of image, P6K is in much higher league

[@AlucinorProductions]

I just had a chat to some Tafe students and was recommending the 6k pro for indi shorts etc. The price/image quality ratio is unmatched (well matched by the 6k but the nds are worth it)

[@AlucinorProductions]

And that screen

[@_o__o_]

Why i switched from Pizza to Burger... Mostly

[@AlucinorProductions]

That's always a tough decision

[@AerialEyesProduction]

I see what you did there at 10:00 lol, leave sony colour ALONE!

[@AlucinorProductions]

I don’t know what you’re talking about 😂

[@AerialEyesProduction]

@@AlucinorProductions Great to watch aussie perspectives on these cameras. we do real estate/wedding videos, some corporate and regional TV ads with an R5, DJI RS3pro and our EF lenses. Was just about to pull trigger on ronin 4d with e-mount and FX6 until I was cruising US ebay for cheap ARRI's and saw your channel. Now after watching your stuff I'm back to agonising over whether to get the c70 and BMPCC6kpro instead because we have so many different lighting situations I'm scared to go Sony. The rs3pro lidar autofocus might make the blackmagic useable and get us into more narrative stuff that I dream of doing. Also we've already got EF and RF glass.... fuck! lol I don't know what to do. I can see you guys have agonised just as much from your knowledge and great videos on this stuff. Cheers from Central Queensland!

[@AlucinorProductions]

@@AerialEyesProduction yeah it’s always such a tough call moving systems. I’m happy with our decision but there’s still things I miss about shooting on the Ursa and Zeiss lenses. They were great for single operator manual focus. I knew the 50 like the back of my hand… I do think the C70 is still the best all rounder around especially with autofocus face tracking now active at 120p. Yes the c300 is better but way more expensive. One thing, if you do end up with a c70 make sure you use a hdmi clamp or protector. I didn’t at first and broke two or three cables quickly.. I’m just used to have Sri which is far more robust. Other than that, no complaints really. It’s not as sharp as the r5(c) but it’s a lovely image. After the CineAlta primes vid (back at work next week) I’m planning to test the canons and the 6k with the aero to determine their usability alongside the aero for a pretty big short we’re doing in April. Thanks for watching mate! Always great to connect with fellow Aussies on here!

[@AlucinorProductions]

Also I haven’t used the Ronin 4D. Have you used it? I’ve only seen the initial patch of KZbin vids that went out when it was announced. Looks interesting for sure. I’m currently waiting for the next inspire and plan to pull the trigger on that (apparently the prototype has been spotted in testing).

[@AerialEyesProduction]

@@AlucinorProductions Yeah I used the demo in the Melbourne D1 store and I had my gimbal rig there to compare (r5+15-35+ninjaV+battery on RS3pro). It's not only heavier but kind of awkward to hold compared to the smallrig handles most of us use on the DJI gimbals. The grip is narrower and to hold at a comfortable height and distance from body you have to tilt the screen up a lot. No xlr and internal sound is crap... Apart from that it was incredible. From inside case to hitting record in less than a minute, the UI/menus is fkn awesome and the lidar autofocus was great, including slow racking and sticky object detect (but I only tested at low range under 10 metres) using a Samyang Xeen 24 f1.5. At least a stop more dynamic range than the R5 (which is big for us shooting real estate and weddings). Can't speak to the colour science much as I didn't get shots in multiple locations or any DLog files but felt like Mavic Cine prores colours without noise in the shadows. I Was (am? lol) planning to use it for important movement shots like Day/night transitions, high tension wedding moments and fast tracking while running etc that don't require holding onto it for half an hour at a time. Inspire 3 is launching at CES this month I heard... If it uses the same zenmuse mount but with new better lenses then maybe you get away without having to go E mount lenses and none of use have to deal with jaundiced skin tones hehehe... Btw I just ordered a C70, thanks for the great content and inspiration from your short movies! Back to pondering on BMPCC6k + ARRI classic VS Ronin 4D