Mini electric bike pump. Cycplus Cube against Fumpa Nano. head to head test.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

I questioned the whole reason for electric bike pumps in this full test of Fumpa pumps kzbin.info/www/bejne/hX2bpqKEaMieapY I'm not convinced of their value for most cyclists.

[@NeilLavitt]

Value for cyclist has to be about function. Punctures are high value to be mitigated, anything that makes this less painful has to be worthwhile. Given many will spend thousands to lose a Kg or weight or a group set that is 200 g lighter, a cheap but highly functional pump that takes the edge off a puncture is most welcome.

[@mikesmithchchnz]

Ive got the fumpa mini pump, brought it for the novelty factor and to see if it is as good as advertised. Was pleasantly surprised how good it is for road bike tyres, to test it out i pumped up 3 23mm road bike tyres to 100psi and it still had battery life left. Touch wood i havent needed it on a ride yet. It fits nicely in my saddle bag with a tube and tyre levers, and at 180 grams is only slightly heavier than my old CO2 set up.

[@Mcg-80]

Having had failed co2 cartridges I don't really trust them either. I'd be more inclined to use this instead of co2 but I've always got a mini pump on the bottle cage.

[@lifeincycling]

Useful video, nobody seemed to remember Fumpa when Cycplus first came out.

[@ianccrook8899]

In a word, they’re handy and convenient. And for tubeless, a pump may be better than co2 inflation - I’ve heard that the cold co2 affects the sealant. This may be a topic for another video? Putting it all together, my decision was to buy a high volume/ low pressure pump. So I now carry the excellent 100cc pump from One Up Components. Gets my 45mm gravel tyres up to 35psi in no time. And I always have 25g co2 and tyre plugs anyway … 😁😁🚴🚴

[@keithmaclure9101]

CO2 can affect some sealants, but you can get some (loads now) that are "CO2- proof". It's not always the cold either - sometimes it's a chemical reaction, so even turning the valve to the top (away from the sealant puddle at the bottom of the tyre) would not save you! Reading the label on the sealant bottle is essential 👍

[@normanjohnston3648]

I asked MucOff about this very thing and they confirmed CO2 is fine with their sealant and wanted to know where I saw the thread that said it wasn’t

[@JamesFryerCreative]

Most mini pumps are a real pain to use, but the Topeak Mini Morph has a fold out foot peg and the valve is on a short flexible hose so it’s the closest thing to a floor pump you can strap to a bike. Makes filling the tube easy and it’s been dead reliable for me.

[@Hermod_Hermit]

Agree, that is the mini pump to buy. Really good, for what it is.

[@NeilLavitt]

Definitely the best mini pump

[@NeilLavitt]

On group rides I’m happy to carry the Fumpa Mini (I live in Australia so supporting Australian companies makes sense). On solo rides I back it up with a mini pump. So far the Fumpa Mini has never let me down. I do make sure it is fully charged before rides in case. I also carry a valve converter around with me in case I can get some air from a garage to top up.

[@biohayzer]

Just had an absolute nightmare puncture scenario Monday gone in the pitch dark morning and lashing rain. Tubeless mountain bike tyre…lost so much air it came off the bead…had to put a tube in and I was hand pumping for more than 10 minutes just so it was rideable. Seriously considering one of these👍🏻

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

I can see a good use for one of the larger ones there, but... how often does that happen? Is it worth carrying every time on the off-chance? The force of the blow from one of these doesn't seem enough (to me) to re-seat a tubeless set-up, but I know that's not what you're talking about here. I'd seriously look at - NOT one of the really small pumps (like the Nano) but one of the Fumpa Mini pumps. Of the three I had to test, I raffled two to my channel members and kept the mini.

[@biohayzer]

Maybe you could do a test on a tubeless setup even on a gravel bike and do a test with valve core installed and removed👍🏻

[@TeamGrumpy]

For me, these electric pumps are not something to rely on when out on a ride - I would always take a 'real' pump, even a mini pump. That said, the Fumpa nano fits neatly into the top tube bag of my TT bike along with a tube and a pair of tyre levers (I have the angled extender which makes the nano fit the top tube and my aero wheels better . This is a bit of an edge case, really, but one where it (and probably the Cycplus, but I've not tried it) is quite useful. From your video review, I wouldn't say there's much difference between these two devices!

[@LasseBuck]

"This is not a cube, okay?!" 😂

[@jonathanzenzic4390]

I use the large Fumpa and I find it useful. I can change tire pressure during the ride when my route changes from smooth tarmac to rough gravel and back to smooth. I like to ride a low pressure like 29 psi front and 31psi rear on rough gravel but this is too low for tarmac. The large Fumpa increases the pressure to 50 psi on my gravel tires which increases the quality of my ride.

[@BrianRPaterson]

80 quid for a pump? I'm happy with a mini pump for the main job, and a co2 cylinder to get the tyre a bit harder if needed.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

I couldn’t agree more!

[@richardspoors220]

Due to my arthritis, I can’t grip a bike pump tightly enough , so I brought a fumpa Haven’t used it in anger yet , but in back garden trials….. very easy

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

I did a test of the whole range recently. Friend who uses an off-road wheelchair finds the big pump very useful

[@frankyoung4155]

They're good for topping off your tires My Fat Tire e-bike only holds 20 lb but after so many weeks it loses pressure

[@mdwadud1300]

It's great that fact that it's very small and can easily be placed in a small bag. But there is a big problem batteries can run, very fast, I'd opt on for a mini manual bike pump instead, more reliable. What if in situations where your in middle of a forest, cant get back home.

[@lancecrawley9542]

Thanks!

[@TotallyNormal88]

If you’re willing to deal with a little extra weight, there’s some really good ones about like the oddly named Woowind BP188. Great for an e-bike where you don’t have to worry about the extra 400g weight.

[@rjmcgovs]

I think you missed three important points benefits of using a rechargeable bike pump. I've had two flats in recent months and was grateful to have the battery powered pump. 1) Time to repair: I ride during the winter with temps down to -10° C. The rechargeable pump gets me pack on the road after 90 seconds during the inflation step, versus an hour using a hand pump, 2) The ability to partially inflate: I previously used C02 cartridges, which don't allow the ability to partially inflate the inner tube to give it shape. Adding shape to the tube greatly reduces the risk of a pinch during the inflation step. The battery pump enables you to easily put 2 to 5 pounds of pressure in the tube, and 3) You get more than one chance. The problem with C02 cartridges is you might only have one shot at inflating the tube. I once had two flats on a ride and only had one cartridge. . With the rechargeable I inflate to about 60 pounds in 700/25 tires, which gives the me the ability to inflate two more times if I get another flat. If you use TPU tubes, the compact nature enables you to easily carry two or three tubes. PS: Just a correction: the C02 cartridges do not add carbon to the atmosphere. The C02 in the cartridge was captured out of the atmosphere; thus, it's only returning it back to where it came from. Burning wood or oil releases carbon that was trapped in the substance. Conversely, C02 cartridges are filled by sucking C02 out of the air. Keep up the good work, your channel is great.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Thank you SO much for this. Really useful to know and I'll pin the comment for others to see. (If it can work out how!) Eit - seems I can only pin my own, sorry)

[@tonyb9735]

"an hour using a hand pump" Unless you are in some way disabled, the idea that it would take an hour pump up a tyre with a mini pump is absurd.

[@kiwibiker9754]

You can buy " control flow" valves for co2 cannisters. You can turn the cylinder on , off, or anywhere in between. And commercial co2 is not extracted from the atmosphere. It is largely derived as a byproduct of industrial processes.

[@craiggruber3024]

I have the cycplus as2 pro, similar size but can pump up 4 road tyres and you can set the pressure.

[@whynotme9843]

How long does it stay charged, or do you have to charge it every ride???

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Like any battery it will loose charge over time. So the longer between rides, and the older the pump, the more it will need topping up.

[@marcofoa5042]

about two weeks then they need recharging@@alwaysanotheradventure

[@714SNF]

thx for the video! what are your thoughts on the rockbros pump?

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

I’ve not tried or tested them - sorry.

[@goldiekeeper]

What make was the gauge you were using to check the tyre pressure?

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

My mistake sorry. I mentioned it in the review of all the Fumpa pumps here kzbin.info/www/bejne/hX2bpqKEaMieapY but not this one. It's Fumpa and it's pretty good.

[@grahamhaines9931]

From a bikepacking perspective carrying an electric pump is another item that will need recharging whilst you’re out in the sticks, therefore I think I’ll stick with my hand pump and CO2 inflator. Thanks for sharing.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Me too Graham. I made this and the other video (linked in Pinned comment) to try to understand why people like and use these.

[@rothaicc]

What a cracking video Simon, thank you !

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@Giggler.]

How many recharges will it handle before the battery dies? Can the battery be replaced?

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Sorry, I don’t know the answers to either.

[@davidrowe8747]

So, if you get two flat tyres in one ride, these pumps are no use to man nor beast, by the sounds of it. Can you recharge them from a USB power pack battery thingy?

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

They’ll do the first puncture but as I said in my review of the Fumpa I’d still want a backup pump. It’s like going out with one CO2 canister. I haven’t tried but see no reason a USB powerbank wouldn’t recharge them - but that’s carrying yet more weight!

[@seltunkoko]

This is not a cube 😂 As always ❤

[@philtomlinson8220]

From your test, I find it hard to see the point of these pumps. I reckon most people could easily inflate a 25mm road tyre in less than 3 mins. The effort would help to warm you up too if it was a chilly day!

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Yep - that’s why the pinned Comment is there.

[@philtomlinson8220]

@@alwaysanotheradventure I really need to make sure I read everything before commenting 😅 As the old saying goes, it's better to remain silent and appear stupid, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt 😅

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

@@philtomlinson8220 🤣 Love it!

[@anderue]

It looked like the cycplus battery died after one tyre. How many gravel tyres can the fumpa nano inflate before the battery is flat?

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

One. Full review of the Fumpa range here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hX2bpqKEaMieapY

[@michaelspark-g5b]

do you think it would suite enduro motorcycle use?

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Hmm not sure of the pressures involved there. best check with Fumpa

[@Demonanimator]

I plan on getting one of these mini inflators to use in an older air powered Nerf blaster rather than for a bicycle.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Good luck. Expensive and not that powerful.

[@suisinghoraceho2403]

Are these accurate in their pressure readings?

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

I didn’t assess them against any norm reference standard of pressure when I made the video last year. That degree of precision didn’t seem necessary.

[@suisinghoraceho2403]

@@alwaysanotheradventureTrue, absolute precision is not needed. But it wouldn’t hurt if it’s actually in the ball park (like not leaving you scratching your head and going “that pressure reading can’t be right”).

[@VictorElGreco]

How many flats *does* one get, anyway? 🤔 I put 5000+ miles per year in total on 10 different bikes and get about 1 flat per year. Is this really a significant step up from hand-pumps and CO2?

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

I don’t think so, no. That’s why I did the video before this one trying to work out why people buy these things. My conclusion was if you’re a group leader off-road, or had some physical impatiemment they might be worth it. My friend who uses a tramper wheelchair finds them great.

[@NothingtoSay9817]

Depends where you live. I live in a country where the roads are shocking. There is no bike shop in the country and you have to have a supply of all your own spares. You are only allowed to carry 3 Co2 cartridges on the plane with you (once you get written permission.) This little device is perfect for me.

[@jameshardy6277]

Do they have a motorcycle version of this?

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

I don’t know. Best ask the companies that make this.

[@johnscarlett5497]

Problem is road side punctures often require several attempts for successful inflation-/the cause of the puncture often remains invisible and will puncture the tube again.After a couple of attempts with these electric ones you are f……d. Unless you are by a handy mains socket in the middle of nowhere

[@ThegearlockerNet]

What digital guage is that?

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

It's the Fumpa - mentioned in the review of all their kit kzbin.info/www/bejne/hX2bpqKEaMieapYsi=J-d01WdndHlagJJp

[@Morpheus0000]

Let's see: Electric: one tyre, inflates in 3 minutes CO2: one tyre, inflates instantly Mini Pump: infinity tyres, inflates in 1-2 minutes Seems like electric loses on all counts.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Yep. I'm not a fan either.

[@NothingtoSay9817]

Why do multiple other reviews show they can pump 2 road tyres and part of a third one from the one charge???? @@alwaysanotheradventure

[@leslie7922]

I had three flats on one ride so I'd be fkd using the cube :(

[@MrBerry67]

Think I would avoid them both- and most certainly I always avoid Chinese products whenever possible - for the same reason I avoid Russian products

[@zxzs328]

$80+. LOL!

[@davidgeiger8620]

Sorry.The same bull.... as other electrical parts on bikes😂

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

If your hands don’t work well, or your shoulders, or you’re in a wheelchair needing to inflate those tyres, then it’s not bull…. There are use cases for the pump but personally, not for me. Or it seems for you either David.

[@orviskid]

These are useless for high pressure tires

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

If you say so

[@henryporter5466]

I enjoy the channel, but stop trying to sell me stuff, Chinese or otherwise.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Hi Henry - why do you think I'm trying to sell you stuff? I wouldn't buy these. I thought that was clear. Sorry if it's not.

[@henryporter5466]

Thank you for the reply. Why take them on? Just say no to them, and why, if you are not interested in selling to me, are they on your channel? Review them in private, and carry on with cycling videos which, you are very good at. Henry.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

I don't mean to be argumentative, but reviews are one of the things the channel does. It offers tips and advice for new and returning cyclists; documents cycling adventures; reviews kit and other items. The videos are divided up into playlists (the reviews have green borders) and some people find them helpful - I'm sorry if you don't. I absolutely never try to flog stuff ever.

[@TeamGrumpy]

@@alwaysanotheradventure Keep doing the reviews, they are useful. As I commented above, my use of Fumpa pumps is quite specific to a narrow need, and for road riding I carry a pump, and where possible a full length frame fitting pump. The two reviews of electric pumps were clear about their limitations, and I cannot see how that can be taken as trying to sell stuff.

[@henryporter5466]

Not argumentative at all, dear boy. I hope you think the same of me. I don't adhere to your point of view, but that is what opinion is about. Take care.