AMAZING Half ton Towable Couple's Camper!! 2023 Surveyor 252RBLE Travel Trailer

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Josh the RV Nerd at Bish's RV

Josh the RV Nerd at Bish's RV

Күн бұрын

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@stevez340
@stevez340 Жыл бұрын
Goodyear tires, 200 watts of standard solar and a decent bathroom fan would certainly raise the bar and also allow for some off grid capability with a 12V fridge👍
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@micheleobrien64
@micheleobrien64 Жыл бұрын
Ladies really need a cabinet in reach from toilet and alot of trailers dont do it. If you get a chance let the trailer gods know.😢😢😢 this one is good!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Love that perspective. Thank you. Seriously
@cindyfavorite195
@cindyfavorite195 Жыл бұрын
Love ours and I’m a great grandma kind of lady. Living space and storage, access and ease of handling a big plus also. I drive a lot with long commute prior to retirement, and have really enjoyed the Surveyor.
@RichardCranium321
@RichardCranium321 Жыл бұрын
​@@JoshtheRVNerd the bathroom is perfect layout for both men AND women. In fact... This is the gold standard for towables in my eyes. Everything is perfect. Dual axle, Real shower, real toilet, real queen bed in the *PROPER* orientation, real oven, real microwave, outdoor kitchen and fridge with tv coax & awning. Theater seat or option for sofa, even had forethought of the little linen closet. The perfect towable *DOES* exist!
@RichardCranium321
@RichardCranium321 Жыл бұрын
​@@JoshtheRVNerd thank you for the shorts videos, especially of this one. The longer vids are somewhat hard to get other people to watch and even I don't always have the time to catch them. In fact, I missed this video entirely and wouldn't have known if not for the shorts. Keep it up, Josh. You're on the right track.
@nancywillcoxon8764
@nancywillcoxon8764 Жыл бұрын
Can you get ducted A/C in the bedroom?
@cindyfavorite195
@cindyfavorite195 Жыл бұрын
Have one and really enjoying it. Have had no problem towing with our half ton and using the shower and kitchen has been great. I use the kitchen every day, and really appreciate not having any carpet.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Ty for the towing feedback!!
@donchaput8278
@donchaput8278 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this is great execution! I like the setup and functionality! A flip up counter extender for the kitchen would be nice since there is limiter counter space. 200W should be the standard for starting solar packages.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
I agree that would be nice
@bertpeters1866
@bertpeters1866 Жыл бұрын
Very nice floor plan. Yes to more solar. Yes to Goodyear tires. Yes to the tank heaters. Curious, does anyone make something similar without the slide? And as always, thanks for your excellent content and extra effort to give us all the good and bad.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
I think this is as close as it gets m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnnRZ2imqt6qnac
@Cornpone
@Cornpone Жыл бұрын
This is one of the most functional layouts available, for sure. The road mode sells it for me. And yes, I would at least want an upgrade option for tires and solar.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Surveyor has really elevated
@TheBronzeGlow
@TheBronzeGlow Жыл бұрын
Best closed slide layout. ❤
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
😊
@jeffreyedwards5808
@jeffreyedwards5808 Жыл бұрын
double sofa yes!!!! (trifold facing the tv and jackknife in the slide) Think of the sleeping area ? Goodyear tire YES! 200 watts of solar YES ! BTW love the cargo! wish all manufactures would do this! Camping for a weekend =stuff , camping for a week = ALOT OF STUFF!!!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Sounds like we feel similarly about this one
@scottr.9275
@scottr.9275 Жыл бұрын
Love the "Cracker Barrel " setup. I really like this floor plan. Great for a couple.
@jonlikesmail
@jonlikesmail Жыл бұрын
First season in my 2022 Surveyor Legend 276 BHLE. The mini outside sink usually serves as a holding place for cooking utensils (spatulas, tongs, etc.). Works well for it. I absolutely LOVE the mini griddle. Our floorplan has stools for a breakfast bar in the dinette storage. The flip up benches make sense for them, but honestly we just slide the stools under the table and use the bench storage for other things. Would definitely prefer a slide out/drawer type access vs the benches. We replaced the mattress after our first trip and haven't looked back. Solar panel is great for supplemental/trickle charging but wouldn't boondock with it. Overall, very happy with our Surveyor.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Ty for sharing!
@cindyfavorite195
@cindyfavorite195 Жыл бұрын
We just left the mattress with the dealer and replaced it with my husband’s orthopedic one and all is well! I’m guilty of using the outdoor sink for utensils, love how easy and accessible the area is to clean up. Love this trailer and setup.
@pennylynch4471
@pennylynch4471 Жыл бұрын
Dueling sofa's sound like an interesting idea. It would feel bigger I bet. I love what they've done with the nooks by the bed! Absolutely the best I've seen. Lots of good storage, in and out. Really lacking in solar. Dinky panel in a big space. About the dinette storage. I appreciate the lift bench, and could take or leave a door. But my knees refuse getting on the floor, and will go into full temper tantrum mode when I have to get up off the floor. Give me standing access any day.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
I think it might actually feel/look a little larger with dual sofas. I think that's how i'd like to go on this one myself
@t-man152
@t-man152 Жыл бұрын
Underrated layout. My 3rd go-to for campers under 30 feet I think.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
What else is on your list?
@t-man152
@t-man152 Жыл бұрын
@@JoshtheRVNerd cant remember the endings but a Rockwood and maybe a micro lite? If I dont forget I'll specify some more
@dreameryoung38
@dreameryoung38 Жыл бұрын
Heaven ,all I need to get buy.After what I went through with probate this right here is what I need
@slamskie1
@slamskie1 Жыл бұрын
That is a pretty great layout. I totally agree on the tires, they really are not enough more money to make any real difference...better tires, better customer satisfaction...seems like a no brainer. The solar does seem a little minimalistic but at least there is something, would definitely have to upgrade that. Seems like a clean look and setup, a winner in my book. Thanks for the awesome job as always Josh.
@cindyfavorite195
@cindyfavorite195 Жыл бұрын
This purchase was my first experience with solar panels, and I can’t believe how much power it does have, and have already considered expanding. I really like this transition to a couples layout and innovative design.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Ty Jade!!
@juangallegos7178
@juangallegos7178 Жыл бұрын
I just bet that if every RV manufacturer switched to Goodyear Endurance tires, the bulk price would bring the price way down.
@tracyschannel9648
@tracyschannel9648 Жыл бұрын
I like it would need mattress upgrade, larger oven, Max air fan's, DVD/ radio, maybe if Rockwood made this model??? Or upgrade suspension. The floor plan just wow nice.
@brucesund1474
@brucesund1474 Жыл бұрын
Thanks josh....super job with your intuitive and fun web presence style.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Ty Bruce!
@charlesklaus6290
@charlesklaus6290 Жыл бұрын
Thanks again Josh! I do wish I'd known about this RV before I bought my Freedom Express 252rbs. Almost exact same floorplan but this Surveyor does many things better. Shower and bathroom sink better. Bathroom cabinets better....my wife can't reach into the one on the 252rbs. Much better use of space behind the TV. Love the vacuum system. Looks like a little more kitchen counter space. Bedroom wardrobe cabinets WAY better designed. Love the slam latch exterior storage doors. Both RVs need Goodyear tires! Both need an accessory hitch. Don't mind the smaller outside kitchen on the Surveyor. More solar with an inverter would be nice. If I had seen the 2 RVs side by side before purchasing I'd have the Surveyor now.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Wow! High marks!
@laattardo
@laattardo Жыл бұрын
Love the true queen, walk around bed. Travel acess is a huge bonus too!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Strong camper for sure
@andrewvaldez526
@andrewvaldez526 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this is an unexpected favorite floor plan of mine - I’m really impressed with Surveyor’s attention to detail, down to the mini struts and coat hangar locations. It has a great amount of counter space, and the couch/recliners are in the perfect spot. True queen size bed in private bedroom. Large bathroom. Amazing storage and cargo capacity. Factory hitch/ladder/disconnect/TPMS. They even included a second window for the theater seat I noticed (most others don’t). Wish there was a window in the bathroom, but that would be gravy. Here’s how I’d build mine: • Keep the dinette (I like to have a table to sit at with my laptop or meal). • Gas/Elec fridge for off grid, and keep factory standard solar • Add tank heaters • Add Goodyear tires and transfer over TPMS. I’m going to pay to replace the import tires anyway, so I wouldn’t mind paying a little more to get that integrated from the factory. What a winner of a unit. Well done to Surveyor.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Yeah what they did here is impressive. I feel like surveyor is creeping up there
@jonnyl2001
@jonnyl2001 Жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic model. Hide-a-bed instead of dinette and Goodyear tires. Edit:More standard solar.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Ty! I think I agree on both fronts
@micheleobrien64
@micheleobrien64 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for clarifying price and difficulty on table mod!😮❤
@Timothy_Smith
@Timothy_Smith Жыл бұрын
Good looking floor plan. I would always want to go with more US made products (ie tires) if possible. Even if it is a few dollars more.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Fair enough!
@mimi.honey08
@mimi.honey08 Жыл бұрын
We love having a dinette.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@slh2887
@slh2887 Жыл бұрын
Josh, thank you for doing what you do...I have been watching your videos since your Haylett days and they are very helpful and I greatly appreciate that you point out the pros and cons. I have made educated decisions based on the information you have shared. The Surveyor Legend 252RBLE is my next TT, taking delivery in a few weeks from Bish's. Some feedback you requested: Dinette storage, I VERY MUCH PREFER this access option over a door or drawer setup. A drawer would work okay but would significantly reduce the amount you could store. A door....nope! That requires getting down on the floor and doing a crab crawl to try and reach whatever is stored within. I am too old and too big for that so it would remain empty. I envision this space as perfect for small appliance storage while traveling between campsites: coffee maker, toaster, air fryer, etc. and in most cases accessed only during set up and break down. The camp kitchen is a plus. I have always wanted one but the floor plans I chose prevented having one. This one is small but sufficient for me because the main thing I will use is the drink fridge for soft drinks, not so soft drinks, and water. Also, the portability of the grill is a plus because if I don't plan to use it the shelf is available for other appliances or other purposes. Retractable shower door: In my current TT I have the same type of shower door. After about 5 years I love it and have had zero issues with it. The bedroom storage with cubbies: unbelievable!! By far the best configuration I have ever seen! And the walk-in pantry...just amazing! Key characteristics that impacted my decision to buy this floor plan: 1. Bed: 60 x 80 mattress space is a must with walk around room. I wish RV manufacturers would not even bother to include a mattress because I will have a new one ready to replace it the moment I take delivery. Also, I am surprised so many new RV's are offering king beds. I can understand the need but configuring the bedroom to handle a king bed significantly compromises the bedroom storage and appearance. 2. Ample kitchen storage, even better with a pantry. This is one of the best! 3. Ample camp side windows 4. Walkable roof with ladder 5. Ample tank capacity. Based on my years of camping that equates to minimum 40 gray and minimum 30 black. Currently have dual dump ports and I hate that...even with the additional gray tank it provides. 6. Length under 30 feet at a manageable weight for properly equipped 1/2 ton towing. 7. If one entry door rather than two, I want it close to the bedroom. 8. Bedroom with door. I want the bedroom as dark as possible for the occasional "sleep in" mornings and that is much easier when it can be closed off from the rest of the TT. 9. Theater seats across from a "larger than 32" TV". This theater seat doesn't have the built in heaters, massagers, lights, etc. but to be honest I have not used any of those more than once or twice in my current trailer. What I do need is nearby power which this has. 10. Surveyor seems to be aware of what is most important to the customer and has improved and evolved over the years yet the brand remains a good value. Some other comparable brands have not evolved or have priced themselves out of the reach of many conscientious RV'ers. This will be my first Surveyor but for about 15 years or so they have been in contention. This time Surveyor wins! My apologies, this is much longer than I intended, but THANK YOU!! What you do has helped so many RV'ers...not only with purchase decisions but also general knowledge and awareness of operational issues, towing best practices and even industry trends. Steve
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Wow I love all this! TY so much! Also congratulations on the new RV :)
@slh2887
@slh2887 Жыл бұрын
@@JoshtheRVNerd You are welcome! I am looking forward to getting the new RV and to new adventures.
@laura7053
@laura7053 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Yes. And yes! Free floating x 2 and Jack knife sofa in the slide. Theater seating. Yes go to Goodyear... Classic Dale Earnhardt or Mario.... Upgrade solar panels for ability to fully use right away.
@bobmiscavage4282
@bobmiscavage4282 Жыл бұрын
I prefer side doors on the dinette seats to have a place to put and store store the table pedestal legs when in transit. In our TT we store our bottled water under there in plastic tubs.Which wouldn’t fit thru the top. Would want Goodyear Endurance tires. Would not want the Chinese tire bombs. They claim their dangerous. If they put 12 volt fridges in they should have adequate solar panels. Like the camp kitchen. Nice video Josh.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Thx Bob!!
@asanablue
@asanablue Жыл бұрын
Under the tv cabinet put in the heater with fireplace & flames and light. Like this and believe it is neatly designed. Solar on top. Like it.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@gaemlinsidoharthi
@gaemlinsidoharthi Жыл бұрын
Can’t say that I’d really want them to change anything on their standard package. Like you said, owners can upgrade things to their tastes and needs without having to pay for things they don’t want. Good job all round.
@stevez340
@stevez340 Жыл бұрын
Quality standard features like an attached ladder, a small solar package, a porcelain toilet, a retractable shower door, a 3 burner cooktop with an oven, theater seating, a TV and a true queen bed make it much easier to overlook a Dollar Store 4” fart fan👍👍
@HoggerCaptain
@HoggerCaptain Жыл бұрын
Great video, Josh. The wife and I are just about ready to pull the trigger on this trailer. For the dinette: We love having a dinette. Our practice is to leave it down (almost always) as a bed for our dogs, but when we can’t eat outside, we enjoy having it as a place to eat. For the storage underneath, we agree with you, they should just have just put doors on the ends. Tires: Thank you for the TPMS, but on this price point, I almost expect higher end tires. Solar: We completely agree. Is there that big of a price difference between the 60W and a 200W panel? I think it would be swell for them to install a panel capable of keeping the fridge running. Even with its “short comings”, this is the unit we’ve chosen. There will be a few things we’ll be getting upgraded by our dealer. We’re getting excited!!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
TY For watching I'm not sure on the solar pricing delta
@evedallas2271
@evedallas2271 11 ай бұрын
Yes definitely would prefer the sofa instead of dinette.❤
@DWMification
@DWMification Жыл бұрын
One advantage of having the toilet so close to the fridge is that you could always use the excuse. "I think something is going bad in the fridge" 😉
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Haaaaahahaahhaa
@rvingtheusa
@rvingtheusa Жыл бұрын
Upgrade the fans, no outdoor kitchen, lots of solar. Like the layout. No slide with folding table and fold chairs would be another plus for those who dislike slides
@martaleary5598
@martaleary5598 Жыл бұрын
I like this floor plan a lot!!! And has many interchangeable possibilities. Better solar package would be nice and upgrading the tires as well. Would love a decent fan ether in the bathroom or bedroom as you suggested. I’m not sure what to do with the sofa/ recliners/ dinette situation maybe because the tv would be hard to relocate. I rather leave it be. Can’t beat the storage . I need to watch at his video again 👍
@nicklombardi5345
@nicklombardi5345 Жыл бұрын
I'm really impressed with this trailer. I would definitely upgrade the tires to a better quality brand. I also like the height of the ceiling because I'm tall myself. I would definitely swap out the knee knocker pedestal table for a free floating one. I would rather have drawers under the dinette seats. This is one that I will be considering when we buy our first travel trailer.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching. I’m glad you liked it.
@caseyhoke2362
@caseyhoke2362 Жыл бұрын
You should check out the Rockwood 2507 as well, Josh just did a video on the new version not long ago
@oldguy9078
@oldguy9078 Жыл бұрын
Yes I like the idea of double sofa and no dinette .
@davidl.39
@davidl.39 Жыл бұрын
So glad to be able to look over videos you have done. Came back to this Surveyor because I really like the floor plan, AND so does my lovely wife. Color choice is great on the interior. Shy on solar and I would feel much better with Goodyear tires on it. We however are given a gut punch in Canada with pricing. This trailer is touching 52 grand in price tag. Ugh... that said, and all else being relevant in prices across the market, I am giving two thumbs up fir your work and for this trailer...
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that. I’ll have to check conversion rates
@trevorhogan2250
@trevorhogan2250 8 ай бұрын
yes! Hide a Bed. I will buy this trailer because of this review.
@citizenfirst5826
@citizenfirst5826 Жыл бұрын
Clean setup, definitely Goodyears. Tank heaters should also be standard. Great videos on the good, bad equally.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@lauragough1174
@lauragough1174 Жыл бұрын
This checks almost every box for me. I like this configuration, good storage (love that pantry). The only thing missing is a second air as I live way down south. First thing I'd do to it is put better tires on it. Tank heaters, yes, just in case. Standard 200 watt solar and some inverted outlets. The Shaker-style cabinets are fine. Larger fan in the bathroom would be nice, as would drawers or doors (with custom sized totes) under the booths, and the battery disconnect and TPMS should be inside the cargo bay. I'd like a tootsie toaster, but you can buy free-standing ones, though you'd have to find a place to carry it. A wardrobe slide would take it over the top, though with a trade-off in weight and CC.
@tumbleweedking5668
@tumbleweedking5668 Жыл бұрын
The 15K ac is more than enough for this size of rv. I have a Cougar this size with the same ac and stay cool in 100 degree weather. Now the noise level from these things will drive you crazy.
@lauragough1174
@lauragough1174 Жыл бұрын
@@tumbleweedking5668 I'm on the Gulf coast where the humidity often meets or exceeds the temperature, you want the extra air and humidity control.
@photowm
@photowm Жыл бұрын
Absolutely more solar and better tires. It is ok if it ads a bit to the price. Same with the roof vents. They absolutely should have fans, preferably max air type with rain covers. Can make a big difference!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
TY William
@CF542
@CF542 Жыл бұрын
WOW! This is so well thought out, it really gives my Grand Design a serious run for the money. I would have liked to see a sprayer on the kitchen faucet and a folding step instead of those stable steps.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Great suggestion!
@DisMindy5767
@DisMindy5767 Жыл бұрын
I ❤️ this RV! I've been waiting for you to review it. I love the floor plan, the half ton towability, the private bedroom. I would go with the standard sofa bed, so my daughter has a place to sleep that isn't on the dinette. I want the dinette. I would prefer the under bench storage to have doors and maybe a slide out vs the bench opening from the top. I would like the tire upgraded to Goodyear. Tires are important and but a place to skimp. Thank you so much for your review.🎉
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Glad I was finally able to get one for you
@rogerrowan3585
@rogerrowan3585 Жыл бұрын
Add the tank heaters Change tires to Goodyear, or offer option. Increase the solar to 200 watts. Also increase the solar feed guage to allow for additional solar panels to be added on the roof. Not sure where the charge controler and inverter are located. Would be nice to have access and space to swap out these with more capable units if additional solar and batteries are added.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
I like all of this
@djfitzgerald2193
@djfitzgerald2193 Жыл бұрын
ok i am with you on the solar power thing and they keep what they got just use the heavier gauge wiring not the dollar store speaker wire for someone can upgrade to a larger system when they have the dime
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@MrNickb-s500
@MrNickb-s500 Жыл бұрын
Nice Travel Trailer 😊😊👍👍👍👍👍
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Ty Nick!
@MrNickb-s500
@MrNickb-s500 Жыл бұрын
@Josh the RV Nerd at Bish's RV You're Welcome Josh 😊😊
@christinehooks8873
@christinehooks8873 Жыл бұрын
Love this RV. You are great. Love this video 😊
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Well thank you 😊
@jmcg6160
@jmcg6160 Жыл бұрын
Nice layout and Love the "Road Mode". It wouldn't leave the lot with "import tires" if I was buying. It would be a deal breaker for purchase. Needs better Solar set up.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
That’s good feedback. Thank you.
@ltslady29
@ltslady29 Жыл бұрын
Really like this one! perfect in my eyes
@jamesthorne8488
@jamesthorne8488 Жыл бұрын
Yep - the larger solar and controller is needed! I would also get this with the fold out sofa bed, otherwise this unit checks most all my boxes!!!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
You’ll like what they’re doing for 2024 then 😃
@jamesthorne8488
@jamesthorne8488 Жыл бұрын
GREAT! I'll be watching for your 2024 review of this unit!@@JoshtheRVNerd
@jimcramer9656
@jimcramer9656 Жыл бұрын
This one gives me a thrill down my leg. Nice work Uncle J!
@calebgh
@calebgh Жыл бұрын
I wish there were more trailers like this out there. My wife and I are thinking about acquiring a trailer in the next couple years and something like this is exactly what we are looking for. Good tires are always a plus, that little cabinet below the TV seems sort of useless to me, love the amount of storage, and regular queen is outstanding as I am 6-2". To me it seems like the outdoor kitchen is maybe and afterthought and I wonder where the griddle is stored? If its stored in the "luggage bay" then that takes up a lot of room that I would want for other things.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the griddle does have to store in the past through
@CarlasLovingWife
@CarlasLovingWife Жыл бұрын
Nice video and Langston is impressive!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Lol I forgot Langston had a cameo
@sunflowergrowing
@sunflowergrowing 6 ай бұрын
I definitely need a dinette. We play games at the table and I work from the table. It’s perfect! The recliners are so uncomfortable, I need to figure out how to change out.
@markbrzostowski4330
@markbrzostowski4330 Жыл бұрын
As a 2021 240BHLE Surveyor owner, the shower curtain seems to work and I have yet to notice mildew but… I do let it dry a bit before I leave it open. I TOTALLY agree with moving to Goodyear tires as almost everyone in the Surveyor chat groups change them to Goodyear shortly after purchasing the TT. I changed mine to Goodyear recently as well. On the solar package, the standard 80 watt has met our needs on a standard 13volt battery with general lighting and running the refrigerator so I don’t need an upgraded solar or, for that matter, water tank heaters. Hopefully I provided feedback where you requested it!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
You absolutely delivered! TY so much :)
@ctsnider88
@ctsnider88 Жыл бұрын
Well, I like this one BUT..... For me, I like the flip-up access that the dinette has. It is easier to get to the stuff in the back. Tank heaters are a must. My fishing season starts in late March. Therefore I need a more Three season camper. That toothbrush holder is great. I can't remember the other questions. Oh Ricky Bobby for sure
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
It’s actually really fair input regarding the benches. I hadn’t considered that.
@JinxDClown
@JinxDClown 9 ай бұрын
200W system is a must. Because i MUST have piece of mind that my food/beer will be properly chilled throughout my trip! But seriously, solar is one area that I would not skimp on. Especially if it runs my fridge. I have pretty much the same feeling in regards to the tires, as well as the tank heaters....Well not that they should stay chilled throughout my trip, but you know what I mean. Better is always better!! Or as Tim The Tool Man Taylor would say, "more power is always better"!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 9 ай бұрын
Good news: they did adopt the 200w system for 2024!!
@chrismorand5681
@chrismorand5681 Жыл бұрын
"Funky Hobo murder noise outside". Ha. Love it. You certainly have a way with words Mr. Josh!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
#poetry lol
@my67falcon
@my67falcon Жыл бұрын
Favorite NASCAR racer.......Neil Bonnett. Yea, I'm old 😔
@leslyechambers1861
@leslyechambers1861 Жыл бұрын
I really like this little trailer. It is perfect for a couple. I would recommend upgrading the tires and having a second theater seat couch instead of the dinette. Also more solar.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Dual theater seating? Interesting! I think i'd slap a hide-a-bed in that slide myself with some kind of table
@leslyechambers1861
@leslyechambers1861 Жыл бұрын
We don’t need it. Just me and the hubs plus three small dogs.
@bradbalderson8172
@bradbalderson8172 Жыл бұрын
Nice layout and it would be a definite yes on a swap out of the tires to Goodyears.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
I think so too!
@cathyw3144
@cathyw3144 10 ай бұрын
Love this tt! epic staring contest😂thanks for the honest review and laughs
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 10 ай бұрын
lol :)
@bobthiele7737
@bobthiele7737 Жыл бұрын
I saved this video because this floorplan is a definite maybe for us. It's great for couples and an occasional extra camper or two. They put in features that I think are truly useful. The road mode is wide open. I think the dinette storage would be accessible in road/packing mode vs drawers. That being said when you're setup I think drawers are easier to use. I guess it depends on what your storing (games, bedding would be OK with the current pop the seat...). They nailed the bedside storage. Under the bed it would be nice to have drawers instead of the lift up The empty space by the cabinets and door is begging for a small cubbie and shoe garage. The biggest hold back would be the dog bowl sink in the camp kitchen. I think there is enough room in the bathroom storage to increase the height/width to increase the size of the outside refrigerator and put in a real sink. The last downer is the bumper doesn't have a hitch to mount bikes. Tank heaters would be nice for those nights it dips down to freezing as a safety, but maybe an add-on would be OK depending on where you live/camp.. 80 watts might be enough to be a battery tender, but not enough if you need to stay off grid for a couple of days. Tires might be OK for a year or two before they'd get replaced. I think where they cut some corners would be an annual upgrade of one thing or another.
@82mattlopez
@82mattlopez Жыл бұрын
I'm in agreement with you. Need better tires, and tank heaters. Definitely better solar standard. Who does only a 80 watt solar on a trailer this size. I know they are pre wired for a 30 amp charge controller. There are cheaper trailers that have most of these features
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
A few touches like that could really make this one sing!
@sunnyd3368
@sunnyd3368 Жыл бұрын
Nice unit. One thing that caught my attention were the buttons on front of bathroom sink.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
In a good way or bad way?
@sunnyd3368
@sunnyd3368 Жыл бұрын
@@JoshtheRVNerd I could see them being easily bumped while brushing your teeth or washing your face. Neighbor laughing watching your slide randomly going in and out. Just an odd placement that maybe should be relocated.
@marysaltlife1427
@marysaltlife1427 Жыл бұрын
Wow, really enjoyed this one. Loving the storage. Winner!👋
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@gaemlinsidoharthi
@gaemlinsidoharthi Жыл бұрын
Like the dinette. 😊
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
TY!
@ryanladendorf1678
@ryanladendorf1678 Жыл бұрын
Very nice trailer and great price!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@lynnlackey2431
@lynnlackey2431 Жыл бұрын
Nice camper Josh. I would like to see at least access doors for the dinette or pull out drawers but I would keep the dinette .If it's cold or rainy I don't want to eat from the couch. Would also like to see more counter top in the kitchen and definitely in the bathroom. 200 Amp solar would be better and the good year tires. Thank you Josh for all you do showing these videos and your input about the features, always appreciated. By the way we have the squeeze shower door in our camper, no problems with it, or complaints.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Thank you for watching!
@bhorst4638
@bhorst4638 Жыл бұрын
Love the layout… would opt for sofa sleeper over dinette for guests but its great because you still have theater seats… of course would swap out mattress also!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
I could see it!
@gregcutler8704
@gregcutler8704 Жыл бұрын
Hi Josh! Great video. We bought 240BHLE last summer and love it so far. Emphatic YES to Goodyear Tires but so far no problem with our 'imports'. We don't have TPM sys but suggest the Ryobi ONE system cordless inflator. Makes checking pressure and inflate/deflate super easy. Factory solar fine and would suggest folks decide after trying out and seeing how they actually use the RV.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Keep your tires properly inflated. Don't drive faster than they're rated. And they will continue to serve you just fine. The vast majority of tire failures are a result of driving too fast on under inflated tires. And even the best tire can catch a screw. Can't blame a tire maker for that.
@stevev7191
@stevev7191 Жыл бұрын
Nice layout could use a tootsie toaster, like your idea of double sofas and free standing table
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
That would be cool!
@tuffr2
@tuffr2 Жыл бұрын
The slide is short is one down side. Yes on better tires.
@KAP-71
@KAP-71 Жыл бұрын
I would love a double theater seating arrangement. I’m not a big fan of dinette seating.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Thx Karl
@markseib4173
@markseib4173 Жыл бұрын
This hits a whole lot of buttons. We have friends with a Jayco 24RBS which is almost the same but doesn't have the bedroom door. Love that pantry and more counter space. My feedback? yes to the solar, Goodyear, tank heaters
@leonardnelson7596
@leonardnelson7596 Жыл бұрын
Hey Uncle Josh hope you're having a great day? I really like the Surveyor Legend. This floor plan is amazing. I just wish it had a electric space heating fireplace underneath the TV. I know we can't have everything we want but it would be nice..#NERDHERD!!!!! Your number one fan an friend Leonard from North Carolina.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Ty Leonard. Appreciate you brother
@philforder7810
@philforder7810 Жыл бұрын
Double couches, do away with the dinette'! Amazing trailer for one or two, so many features, slap more Solar panels and boondock for as long as I can. You might need a tape measure on the roof!(always tryin to help!)
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Yeah I get why people wanted to see this one
@justorganizemylife
@justorganizemylife 11 ай бұрын
I love the awning and the fact that it covers the kitchen! Nice unit all in all. A couple of things I would change: the bathroom sink/counter is on the dinky side, and I agree about the toilet. But on the other hand, the layout probably made the outside kitchen possible. Also, the RV mattresses are always a bone of contention with me. Why not offer a good mattress? Where do the factory issued mattresses end up if most owners replace them? I'd rather opt out of a mattress and get my own. Thanks for your videos, Josh!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 11 ай бұрын
I have a video on why RV bedding always sucks here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXmog5miib1sn8U Basically.. it comes to the question "What is the correct mattress?" And there's really no answer that applies across the board. So MFGs include something cheap to complete the look and idea knowing you'll likely want to invest some dollars to personalize your comfort Some folks ask "why not ship with NO mattress then?" To that I can tell you from years of experience if a mfg shipped RVs with no mattress they'd get their heads caved in with people saying "look how cheap and corner cutting they are" and the juice would not be worth the squeeze
@justorganizemylife
@justorganizemylife 10 ай бұрын
​@JoshtheRVNerd I'm anxious to see what they've done to this unit for '24 with the new decor. Thanks for all the good info!
@roannathephoenix8561
@roannathephoenix8561 Жыл бұрын
Upgrade that bedroom fan, make a second sofa an option, idk enough about tires to give an opinion.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
I think you could do a second sofa on these
@gordonward
@gordonward Жыл бұрын
For definite I would like the tank heaters. upgrade the tires .. ditch the slide out and just use theatre seating with a movable table. as for the solar. I am fine with minimal as I would want to rip it all out and put in a proper off grid system --- so it's all just lost money buying from the factory .. not sure about the insulation .. would prefer it to be the best they can instal and then on demand water heater ... otherwise I liked the size and most other features --- by the way... I appreciate you doing this Thank you
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Thank you for watching!
@Tobynsocks
@Tobynsocks Жыл бұрын
People have this idea that Goodyear tires are like invincible. If you wash your tire pressures load your vehicle evenly minimize heavy cornering try to avoid the potholes Westlake or trailer king tires will serve you just fine. I have two trailers I pull every day and follow those basic ideas I just wrote about you will greatly reduce your risk of any sort of Tire issue. Pay attention to the speeds trailer tires even if they say they are are not meant to go 80 miles an hour for 8 hours. Use your head you'll be fine
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
I agree. It’s a hot take but the fact is import tires are fine when maintained properly and driven at appropriate speeds Had someone ask me the other day how to make it safe to tow their rv 80mph Told them it wasn’t. Doesn’t matter what you do.
@Tobynsocks
@Tobynsocks Жыл бұрын
@@JoshtheRVNerd LOL people are funny. I just don't want people to think that they're Invincible because they have the endurance tires. They are definitely a higher Quality Tire and allows for more user error then the cheaper import tires
@klasio_susii
@klasio_susii 7 ай бұрын
Drawers in the under dinette storage please. Also, where is my fireplace? Under the tv would work, even if it gives up a little storage behind it. Def prefer more camp side window coverage.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 7 ай бұрын
Under the TV would be perfect fireplace country for sure
@BS-ni8ww
@BS-ni8ww Жыл бұрын
Like it. Would take the dinette but like your idea of a mobile table. Bathroom counter space is a negative.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@donedennison9237
@donedennison9237 Жыл бұрын
Be nice to have a no slide version with some "ottoman" benches (with storage) and a flip up table for eating. Also a dinofa table (maybe the same table?) that can go inside or out. Sit on to eat or hang with friends, put your feet up. Also, use the table for extra counter space.
@cindyfavorite195
@cindyfavorite195 Жыл бұрын
We have never had a slide, but I love that even when traveling, we can use the bed and bath without opening the slide, and get to the closet and bathroom. So much space and easy to handle from highway to parking. I’m so glad we got to a few shows, the Surveyor was our first choice, and never saw one until we got to the lot to narrow our choices. Comfortable and easy to handle with our four door short bed half ton, our first Chevrolet truck.
@henryford2736
@henryford2736 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't get rid of the Dinette. Try to fix something or play games and cards with no table. On the floor?🤔
@wheresbrent
@wheresbrent Жыл бұрын
A super amazing floor plan! Love the Ward and Pantry! Seriously wow! Water Capacity is a usual victim for ultra lites, would love to see 60 gallons or greater of Fresh Capacity. I could not tell where on the Trailer the Fresh water fill was, do you recall? (Front, mid, rear)? What type of Slide mechanism is used? Cant tell if thats Ram or Rack and Pinion... I'm super impressed with this trailer and love love love the Azdel and Aluminum structuring. As far as i've seen this is the only brand that does 30' with full Azdel sidewalls. I'm digging the upgrade (easy stuff) you want aspect to save cost. I think if you add on all the nice things talked in chat, the price would then be less of a value. i'm gobsmacked by the value provided, way to go Surveyor! #1 in value if you ask me. ~NerdHerd_Oregon
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
I see too many rvs to recall hookup locations. Apologies. Thank you for watching!
@mickeydevey834
@mickeydevey834 Жыл бұрын
I'd opt for the higher quality tires, every time.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
It’s one of those things you won’t regret having for a few bucks I think
@texillini1
@texillini1 Жыл бұрын
Favorite all time NASCAR drivers? Both retired, Darrel Waltrip & Jeff Gordon. Favorite current driver? I root for all of the Hendrick’s teams. Nice camper, here are my questions and opinions…. 1) I’d like to see the ladder just a little bit longer. It appeared to me that the first step from the bumper to the first ladder rung might be a bigger first step. 2) Is that bumper a storage bumper for the stinky sewer hose? If not then install one. 3 & 4) YES change out the tires 🛞 with Goodyears. Make it standard. I’d also would like two spares on the bumper, looks like there is room for them side by side. 5) And YES, more solar. When SHTF and you have to bug out from your home, everyone including their uncle Gary will be fighting for hotel rooms. If you have some form of RV you will have more options to lay your head down at. 5 & 6) Overall a nice unit. Does Bish’s carry the Brinkley brand? Do you carry all brands at all stores or is certain brands only at certain stores?
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Yeah, we have Brinkley at several stores and plan to expand that lineup
@lukecoppersammy
@lukecoppersammy Жыл бұрын
I wish rvs would include the heater portion of those faux fireplaces, and turn the "fire" portion into storage or something useful.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@cindyfavorite195
@cindyfavorite195 Жыл бұрын
The fire portion in ours has a heater, great for warm feet on a cool morning.
@bigpig879
@bigpig879 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Josh! I was looking for this RV review from you. I know you did the 2022 one. This is a good upgrade thing after the 203RKLE for us. This or the Alta 2350KRK?
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Woof… tough call. I’d have to really break it down.
@incrediblyaveragegamers5905
@incrediblyaveragegamers5905 11 ай бұрын
Hey Josh, I think I'd want a desk in the slide out if there's that much flexibility. Speaking of if you happen to come across half ton towables with a dedicated office/desk space I'd love to see them. Most I've seen have too small of a desktop. I have 3 monitors for work and looking to go full digital nomad.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 11 ай бұрын
I wish they offered that. It would be awesome.
@MikeFoley
@MikeFoley Жыл бұрын
I love the layout on this and the weight is great.. I agree with Bert 100%. Needs Goodyears, more solar and default tank heaters. How does the quality compare to Rockwood MiniLites Josh? I've got an F-150 with the 2.7 and full tow but I'm only going to be comfortable with about 6000lbs max which is why this looks interesting to me. I'd love a 2506s but that 900lb dry tongue weight is a non-starter.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
I don’t yet have enough experience with these to really give a good quality comparison. I will also not lie - j am generally pretty sweet on Rockwood and hold them on high esteem
@MikeFoley
@MikeFoley Жыл бұрын
@@JoshtheRVNerd Agreed.. I just looked.. This one is Azdel only on the outside. Rockwood has Azdel on both interior and exterior walls. I wish Rockwood did this floorplan with a similar weight.
@jackdearing8402
@jackdearing8402 11 ай бұрын
Would like to have the 200w solar package w converter, a movable dining table, a fold down counter extension, a bathroom window, two large power vent fans... not to be picky. I DO LIKE the layout!!!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 11 ай бұрын
I think you’ll like the direction they went for 2024
@DavidHBurkart
@DavidHBurkart Жыл бұрын
Great half-ton towable layout, love the vac option. Would scrap the dinette for a decent two-seat sofa/convert-a-bed & a stowable folding table that could be used outside as well. Regarding the theater seating, spec greater seat width by getting rid of the narrow shelf & put USB access in the wall or the seat itself. The storage is legit, weight capacities are exceptional. Would definitely want Goodyear rubber on this. The camp kitchen is a bit "gadgety" for my tastes. Eliminate the "sink" to increase the actual grill size if possible. Other than those first-world criticisms, its a dandy.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
I agree. It really only has a few nitpicks
@DavidHBurkart
@DavidHBurkart Жыл бұрын
@@JoshtheRVNerd Indeed, she is a very good choice as is
@mikewatson2034
@mikewatson2034 Жыл бұрын
Nice layout but would insist on US tires. Would change anyway. Can you sit in the dinette when closed?
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Slide not tested for that
@carolynnhunsucker6264
@carolynnhunsucker6264 Жыл бұрын
I love this RV! But no fireplace is disappointing, and the tiny solar package? I’ll bet it’s expensive to upgrade to 200-400W prep.. I see the 2024 went with yucky gold furniture.. this one is nicer looking. Definitely considering this RV. 😊. I love your videos!! Thanks for road mode and making them entertaining 💜
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
2024’s fixed a lot of this. Solar included
@laattardo
@laattardo Жыл бұрын
That shower "door" just gave me anxiety 😂😂 the mold! Resistant or not, it will happen 😊
@cindyfavorite195
@cindyfavorite195 Жыл бұрын
We have used ours a lot, and clean it regularly and leave it closed to dry, hasn’t been an issue, but don’t tow it closed was advised. The top rail seems a little flimsy, but have tightened the screws after a long haul, no problem. Really glad we bought this one, comfortable and easy to care for.
@laattardo
@laattardo Жыл бұрын
@@cindyfavorite195 thank you for your input!
@mariazaccardi61
@mariazaccardi61 Жыл бұрын
Yes to the tires, to heaters and solar. I like the floor plan, the outside kitchen is ok, just put a little counter next to the grill. Any way we can get a table and chairs instead of the dinette?
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
I don’t believe they offer a table and chairs from the factory.
@bws3152
@bws3152 Жыл бұрын
Literally one of my first thoughts was to ask for a sofa in the slide as soon as I saw the map of the trailer.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
😊 👊🏻
@michaelb6967
@michaelb6967 Жыл бұрын
Here's my 2.75 cents worth ( inflation ) . Get rid of the outside speakers and increase the solar at least to( minimum ) 200 !! Also I know it's just me but I will never use a " camp stove " of any make or model that close to my trailer . We have a class C that we removed the outside kitchen and use the space now for a old school Coleman camp stove that we have a steel foldable table that we use to put it on away from our motor home . Ive seen more than one person blacken and even damage there trailer / motor home by using this feature at to high of heat . All in all this is a very very nice trailer .
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Ty
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