Amazing Looks and Powerful Sound - SMD 3kW Subwoofer Amp Dyno Test

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Williston Audio Labs

Williston Audio Labs

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@wal
@wal Ай бұрын
*If you have a comment, whether it be good or constructive criticism, it is appreciated. If you are here to be disrespectful, hateful or just plain mean to me or Steve, you will be removed from my channel from leaving comments. I can't believe I even have to make this comment, but c'mon guys, be adults here* SHOP for SMD Amplifiers - WCCarAudio is.gd/wccwal - Down4Sound lddy.no/1kw26 *See More Videos from Meade916* - SMD 8.5kW Amp Tested kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3asfpZ5edqHpa8 - Intro Video about SMD Amps by DS-18 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHXNoamnd6tjgLM - 20,000 watt Window Shake kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZbHl4tjnN97q68 - Car Stereo Shreds Phone Book kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWSponptrr14i9U - SMD DD-1 Distortion Detector kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYCkg3aXfLpnbdU - SMD AD-1 Amp Dyno Introduction at SEMA 2012 kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJrCi56joKeXjK8 *VIDEO INDEX* 0:00 Intro 0:27 Steve Meade 1:48 Unboxing the SMD 3k 4:33 Features and Specs 6:23 Powering Amp 7:18 Amp Dyno Tests 10:04 Do It Bump Doe? 11:09 Watts Inside? 12:22 PROS and CONS 13:06 Conclusion 13:41 Extras *TEST BENCH EQUIPMENT* SMD / D'Amore Engineering Amp Dyno (AD-1): is.gd/wccad1 XS Power D1400 Batteries - amzn.to/2BPFCKW XS Power PSC60 Charger - amzn.to/2CHGcfs Fluke 1000A AC/DC Clamp Meter: amzn.to/2Rw5WDA Handheld Dyno AMM-1: is.gd/wccamm1 My Favorite Precision Screwdriver Kit: amzn.to/3yAaPmn _DISCLAIMER: This video and description contains affiliate links, which means that if you purchase from one of the product links, I may receive a small commission. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. As an eBay Partner, I may be compensated if you make a purchase_
@hardcorebestnlrccarbuilder
@hardcorebestnlrccarbuilder Ай бұрын
Can u test some ground zero amps i have the 6 k mono Block amp
@Raymo2u
@Raymo2u Ай бұрын
His 5 Channel amp seems perfect for most people. 4 x 250W @ 2Ohm and a sub gets 1800W @ 1Ohm. Its a bit pricey but its not bad for what you're getting. I just wish the sensor panel was flush mounted.
@GlycerinZ
@GlycerinZ Ай бұрын
i've watched many of Steve's YT videos. Dude is badass and knows what he's doing. Anyone that badmouths him (OR YOU) is pathetic.
@murrayshekelberg9754
@murrayshekelberg9754 Ай бұрын
thats kind of a bad look. never seen any other get that kind of "protection" in the comments
@wsxbrken9366
@wsxbrken9366 Ай бұрын
@@murrayshekelberg9754 ukr💀
@TikiDoorman
@TikiDoorman Ай бұрын
JP33 at $450 seems like a far better buy if you want an efficient 3K that will do more than rated at every OHM load. These look cool, but theyre a cheaper circuit design and you can just get an EXL from DS18 if you want this circuit type for a lot less. Then, you can buy a VM1 and put it anywhere.
@BloodCover
@BloodCover Ай бұрын
@@TikiDoorman Orion Hcca for sure are still the kings of amps.
@TikiDoorman
@TikiDoorman Ай бұрын
@@BloodCover Love Orion HCCA. The Orion XTR stuff is also a great value option, too.
@TikiDoorman
@TikiDoorman Ай бұрын
@@BloodCover Funny thing. Orion is made by Seongsin in Korea. This amp? Also made by Seongsin in Korea. That's right, the Orion HCCA and the SMD amps have the same OEM!
@TikiDoorman
@TikiDoorman Ай бұрын
@@BloodCover When you get a chance, compare the internals of the DS18 EXL-P2000X1D to the Orion XTR 2500. Very, very similar circuit design. I found out that Seongsin, who OEM's for Orion, also shipped these to DS18.
@corytapp223
@corytapp223 Ай бұрын
@@TikiDoorman you can get the jp5k amp for just a little over $100 more than the 3k amp which is absolutely ridiculous
@brookerobertson2951
@brookerobertson2951 Ай бұрын
Definitely for the smooth of brain with deep pockets. I have been watching this channel long enough to know you can do better at half the price. But still interesting to have a look at.
@CabinetmanJeremy
@CabinetmanJeremy Ай бұрын
For price, quality and performance I'll stick to Orion hcca.
@boomboxmike5838
@boomboxmike5838 Ай бұрын
Why is that its ok that it didn't make rated when you dog all the other amps that come up a lil short?
@KN-vl9ob
@KN-vl9ob Ай бұрын
@@boomboxmike5838 was thinking the same thing.
@wal
@wal Ай бұрын
I don’t consider 2-4% short a failure. Amp’s ratings were not stated to 1% THD and they were surpassed at clipping
@GTILOUD
@GTILOUD Ай бұрын
​@@wal😂😂😂 ok
@namegoesherenone6449
@namegoesherenone6449 Ай бұрын
@@boomboxmike5838 my only issue with the ratings are that they're at a voltage most cars won't see, and after rise and efficiency losses will it really make power?
@gskeezyio
@gskeezyio Ай бұрын
Nope
@halfmeout
@halfmeout Ай бұрын
review feels a bit inconsitent with past reviews. The miss on 4 ohm I don't think you would have easily passed. The lack of .8 ohm is turned into a positive on protect mode and the cost per watt seems high. The efficiency at 62 is low. I am a big fan of SMD but these amps could be better
@anthonycoia596
@anthonycoia596 Ай бұрын
@@halfmeout my thoughts exactly! I was waiting for the disappointment fanfare sound or a headslap, or even a homer Simpson "doh!" Then I felt like the big dummy cuz it never came. 😒
@Dingleberry1856
@Dingleberry1856 Ай бұрын
don't be mean, Steve is on a spectrum and cant handle negative feedback.
@paulgood2218
@paulgood2218 Ай бұрын
I feel if there would of been another name on the amp you would of been much more harsh with the performance numbers . But me personally I love that it's rated dead on accurate I wish all amps was rated that close to accurate!!! Great job for that
@murrayshekelberg9754
@murrayshekelberg9754 Ай бұрын
yeah, i lost major respect from this and then how he is doing damage control in the comments
@sagemodenaruto07
@sagemodenaruto07 Ай бұрын
Taramps big boss 3k it is.
@hilariovilla3606
@hilariovilla3606 Ай бұрын
Thanksgiving is over and I didn't expect more GLAZE over Steve's amp. wow
@CarAudioEnthusiasts
@CarAudioEnthusiasts Ай бұрын
the question is, who's shoulder are you parroting from? at least be original with your insults. comon man! lol
@daniels1st
@daniels1st Ай бұрын
​@CarAudioEnthusiasts No, the question is why are you doing what you are doing? You seem to have an agenda here.
@zachjohnson1
@zachjohnson1 Ай бұрын
you mean any more or less glaze over the D4S woofers? I'm not an existing user of either, but I definitely appreciate companies putting their resources into developing new stuff. I don't understand the hate.
@CarAudioEnthusiasts
@CarAudioEnthusiasts Ай бұрын
@@daniels1st I do not have agenda. I just support the truth, and often that is a confusing topic. people like to gang up and parrot others, I support researching, and finding the truth. I also dont like to see hate. people trying to start new things is what we need, bashing them isnt productive.
@murrayshekelberg9754
@murrayshekelberg9754 Ай бұрын
@@CarAudioEnthusiasts keep fanning those balls
@meade916
@meade916 Ай бұрын
thanks for the awesome video! I think just a small bump in voltage, like .2 or .3v and it may have done those certified numbers in 2 and 4 ohms a little nicer. But it did it's numbers up to clipping which is more than acceptable and has always been. At least it still did it's CERTIFIED numbers at 1ohm (and much more) which is all most people really care about anyway. Nobody buys a 3k monoblock amp rated at 1ohm and runs it at 4. If you do that, it still kicks ass, but that is not what it is meant for :). This is our first batch and we are waiting to see how everything is doing. We will make changes and improvements based on how everything plays out as these amps start landing in peoples cars. If there are any issues, they will be addressed. Thanks again Mr. Big D Wiz bro!
@stupidamericanpig7357
@stupidamericanpig7357 Ай бұрын
Just out of curiosity, and if you’re ok sharing. What sample size is used when generating the advertised power ratings for your amps? Did you test some % of the build run and then use that to determine a number? Do you test 100% of the production run and use that to get the numbers? Do you have any that don’t make spec? This sort of thing is interesting to me because I am a nerd. 😂
@jus1taj
@jus1taj Ай бұрын
It’s a beautiful amp. A showpiece. And yeah, ain’t nobody gonna run these at 4 ohms. 1 ohm only and it performed well. Good stuff. I would expect this price point for an amp like this. It’s out of my price range but for those that can afford it it’s a true win. Congrats on a quality amp. Very nice.
@MikeAnnunziato
@MikeAnnunziato Ай бұрын
Awesome work and a beautiful looking amp Steve, hopefully one day I can afford one! I have been watching your channel since the beginning and you've had a big impact on how I do my car audio. 💯
@jacquiecrandall6058
@jacquiecrandall6058 Ай бұрын
🤡
@monclerjacket8814
@monclerjacket8814 Ай бұрын
Respectfully incorrect sir. I'm that one weirdo who runs 1ohm amps at 4 ohms. Guilty as charged lol. But hey I like the power surplus for possible future upgrades not to mention 4 ohms just sounds so much better imo. Happy Holidays tho big homie!!
@knighthawk8084
@knighthawk8084 Ай бұрын
Smd could take a walmart amp and put his name on it and sell it for 10 times and people are so stupid they will buy it
@wal
@wal Ай бұрын
He probably could, but in this scenario, these amps are very good quality and as I know him he would never put his name on junk
@ricardojuarez291
@ricardojuarez291 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂 that's right.. I'll stick with down4sound JP prices are more affordable..
@gskeezyio
@gskeezyio Ай бұрын
​that part
@rogerdjs
@rogerdjs Ай бұрын
Very Honest Comment...
@Dingleberry1856
@Dingleberry1856 Ай бұрын
@@wal they didn’t do rated, junk.
@namegoesherenone6449
@namegoesherenone6449 Ай бұрын
Its flashy, but it doesnt like below 1ohm. My jp33 has been running on .5ohm for about a year now no issues
@namegoesherenone6449
@namegoesherenone6449 Ай бұрын
I'd like to add some constructive criticism, because this is a very nice looking amp. It's just that these days information is free flowing and our(the consumer) understanding is more comprehensive than ever. Honestly if your installing an amp of this caliber at this price point there's a few things to be expected. Quality vs price, what's out in the market now vs what makes yours different. Prices are definitely coming down on car audio. Make it worth it.
@andystansberry2134
@andystansberry2134 Ай бұрын
So it's basically just a typical low efficiency DS18 amp that cost way more than usual because SMD is stamped on it??
@TikiDoorman
@TikiDoorman Ай бұрын
It's the same circuit as the DS18 EXL 2500. Woefully inefficient. Basically an old, inefficient, low cost Korean board with some visual flair.
@happyrootsfamily1276
@happyrootsfamily1276 23 күн бұрын
Steve is a legend in the car audio scene in California I buy from his lineups over JP due to Steve being involved in the car audio before KZbin and social media jp is a KZbin sales person he's never personally built a system he probably doesn't have the know to install a best buy system on his own he pays people like Steve to design and build his systems
@johnlopez4801
@johnlopez4801 Ай бұрын
not a bad amp but I rather go with D4S JP33 amp
@BlueDinnie
@BlueDinnie Ай бұрын
Oh man I can't unsee it now🫣 🔥💸
@koop-mi4mc
@koop-mi4mc Ай бұрын
The mounting flange!!!!!! About time oh my goodness it can mounted with a bolt without being drilled!!! Thank You Steve!
@memyselfandi3925
@memyselfandi3925 Ай бұрын
😂 that price is insane! What a joke, same as filtering the comments because you dont agree with what is said...just sad
@daniels1st
@daniels1st Ай бұрын
Exactly First car audio video I've ever even heard of something like this. I like Big D, hope he hurries up and distances himself from Steve. Obviously Steve is a very smart guy, just not a people person.
@TikiDoorman
@TikiDoorman Ай бұрын
He's deleting comments that tell the truth. This thing has horrible efficiency and is pricey. I guess if you like the aesthetic it's good, but amps like JP33 put this thing to shame, shame, shame. More power by far and insane efficiency.
@djkukumix
@djkukumix Ай бұрын
I believe all amp analyses should be consistent. Honest criticism is essential, regardless of the brand or whether a review copy is provided. If Meade's products can't withstand scrutiny, he should ensure their quality before production. Even his own dyno equipment supports this, which is great to see. Credit should be given where it's due, but it's unfair to see Williston being inconsistent. Meade has banned me from commenting on a video before for criticizing his SMD Meters, so it's not surprising that you had to pin a comment about 'disrespectful' remarks when most are just stating facts. Hope it's a learning lesson so you can improve on your videos.
@CarAudioEnthusiasts
@CarAudioEnthusiasts Ай бұрын
from what I saw the test was totally honest, im not sure where "Williston being inconsistent."came from. he tested the amp shared the results, thats exactly what i expected
@djkukumix
@djkukumix Ай бұрын
@@CarAudioEnthusiasts when an amp just bearly misses the mark he adds a funny video or comment. He should be the same all around.
@jonanderson4474
@jonanderson4474 Ай бұрын
You could shoot your own video your way if you want.
@nathanmaida
@nathanmaida Ай бұрын
I see exactly where you’re coming from. I don’t think these amps will do well. Ruthless will be better. Can’t run at half ohm or .8 resistive. Which is tough, but you already know 1/25th of the bass head community will even buy these.
@erobles396010
@erobles396010 Ай бұрын
@@djkukumixhe should of put that fail music that he puts on all other amps that dont do the rated power
@AraceaeFanatics
@AraceaeFanatics Ай бұрын
I wish Steve would have partnered with literally any other brand. This test still doesn't make me want to run these. And with Steve's reputation, I expected this to over perform. It looks like JP's D4S brand is still the better buy. I'm very impressed with Stinger's brand of amplifiers lately.
@hardhead7056
@hardhead7056 Ай бұрын
DS18 amplifier doing what DS18 amplifiers do. Usually. The bare minimum.
@Brandencarroll1
@Brandencarroll1 Ай бұрын
Not impressed with those efficiencies and not sure why they didn't make it 0.5ohm stable. Also blows my mind brands like Taramps can have smart technology but so many other amps don't have them. Thank you for making this review for us, your videos are always solid!
@Bentleymetalworx
@Bentleymetalworx Ай бұрын
My big boss 3k is impressive especially for the money.
@EBMproductions1
@EBMproductions1 Ай бұрын
*Just here to eat popcorn and read comments* 😂
@wal
@wal Ай бұрын
They are showing off to get attention. It’s really sad
@GTILOUD
@GTILOUD Ай бұрын
​@@walno were calling you out on your biased bullshit bro
@Jason_Voorhees.
@Jason_Voorhees. Ай бұрын
Same 😂
@michaelcox1851
@michaelcox1851 Ай бұрын
I love steve meade and his channel. My thought is this.....What is he running in his builds? I think that is the proof in the pudding right?
@Ole_CornPop
@Ole_CornPop Ай бұрын
He doesn't have DS18 in anything he owns.
@bobdodge3171
@bobdodge3171 Ай бұрын
Im actually impressed that ds18 hit very close to rated.
@666nacirema666
@666nacirema666 Ай бұрын
DS18 sells amps that are identical to many others then some that are even better with say more power inputs or something to that effect. Theres really nothing wrong with them you can get trash and treasure from them if you look around a bit.
@brettoberry3586
@brettoberry3586 Ай бұрын
Eye + Ear candy... As a long time electronics technician, I appreciate the detailed manual!
@wal
@wal Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@bearxbunny1835
@bearxbunny1835 Ай бұрын
HOLY S*** I JUST SAW WHAT THE ORIGINAL PRICE WAS FOR THIS AMP!!! The site had the original price X'd out and then showed $700 price, get ready for it, brace yourself, $944.99!!! ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!
@ds1919ds1919
@ds1919ds1919 Ай бұрын
Over $600 for a 3k, should be at 88-99% efficiency. Can be done
@sHoRtBuSseR
@sHoRtBuSseR 27 күн бұрын
My DC 3.5ks are over 1000 each, and I don't complain at all. They also do 0.25 ohm burps and 18v charging, so there's that. Idk if the smd amps would appreciate quarter ohm lol
@floydwilliams3321
@floydwilliams3321 Ай бұрын
Absolutely beautiful, but I thought it would’ve done more power, knowing the people who were behind it
@turbomustang84
@turbomustang84 Ай бұрын
I never really cared about car audio. That being said I want decent sound but for the most part what ever came with the car is usually fine . But for some reason this channel captivates me LoL
@wyattseay75
@wyattseay75 Ай бұрын
can you make a video showing the results when you use a stock charging system compared to upgraded.
@wal
@wal Ай бұрын
Sounds like a good future vid!
@doctersound9630
@doctersound9630 Ай бұрын
@@wal 12 volts or less!
@hardhead7056
@hardhead7056 Ай бұрын
Tons of respect to you mr. Meade. But he ran the one ohm test with a higher resting voltage of 15volts. Its the only reason it got that higher one ohm number respectively. All the other runs were generally 14.5 volts. No Joe Six Pack daily driver cars are charging at 15 volts. Usually 13.9 - 14.5 volts. Mr. D. Williston did rite by us. 👍
@RomaVilla
@RomaVilla Ай бұрын
@@NunyaBusiness-xx2bpwhat’s crazy is Steve wanted big d to raise the voltage even higher to get a bigger number. Trying to play us like we are the dummies
@rhurtadorh32
@rhurtadorh32 Ай бұрын
At the end it is still a ds18 amp
@stevemccauley5734
@stevemccauley5734 Ай бұрын
What does that mean? Truly just curious. I don’t know much about modern amp brands. I’m an old school class AB guy.
@wal
@wal Ай бұрын
No different than people who comment KICKER amps are junk and have no idea how good they really are. Please educate yourself
@turbo18eg
@turbo18eg Ай бұрын
I would like to see these amp manufacturers focus a line of amps of extreme efficiency.
@wsxbrken9366
@wsxbrken9366 Ай бұрын
@@turbo18eg high efficiency can be achieved, but obviously at a cost… a big one So yeah they just stick with the mid quality components, etc.
@TikiDoorman
@TikiDoorman Ай бұрын
JP33 is over 80% efficient at every ohm load and 97% at 4 OHM. The latest Korean circuits are insanely efficient. Even Taramps efficiency is getting better.
@txddyfarquh69
@txddyfarquh69 Ай бұрын
Now i KNOW Mr. SMD is going to use his very top tier Boss Monobloccs in his Honda for that next build lol.. Or maybe in the Lexus 😎✌🏽 Beautiful pieces here
@asian_raisin
@asian_raisin Ай бұрын
Sippin on some Knob Creek while watching this. Food is being cooked. Life is good.
@devencherry8976
@devencherry8976 Ай бұрын
I like the amps, they look very nice. I dislike how expensive the amps are in comparison to other amps with similar quality like down4sound's amps..
@wal
@wal Ай бұрын
The 12” sub shown in the video is a D1 wired at 0.5 and the amp had no issues powering it. O.8 on the Dyno is like 0.4 or less with speakers
@devencherry8976
@devencherry8976 Ай бұрын
@@wal that makes sense, I forgot about impedance rise...
@GTILOUD
@GTILOUD Ай бұрын
You keep changing what .8 on the dyno equates to on speakers ​@@wal
@chabat124
@chabat124 Ай бұрын
I always appreciate you bringing us new videos to showcase amps and of course the testing. Beautiful amp.
@alconyers2003
@alconyers2003 Ай бұрын
Seems like Steve Meade would have 100% designed his own amp and not do a collaboration with ds18. I honestly was expecting more for price.
@forpetesake20
@forpetesake20 Ай бұрын
sell enough SMDeez nuts and you too can have a signed amp, lol. best sales man on youtube right here 😂😅
@wal
@wal Ай бұрын
My accountant would disagree
@forpetesake20
@forpetesake20 Ай бұрын
@wal i bet you keep your accounts the same way you run your amp dynos 😂😅🤣. how far can we go and still claim to be truthful, lol. you seem like the type of guy to take the equipment on vacation, make a video then right it off at the end of the year 🤣
@forpetesake20
@forpetesake20 Ай бұрын
@Des420 its sad to see SMDeez nuts and JPs amps always run at 14.4, 14.5, 14.6 and everybody else amps running at 13.8, 13.7.
@GTILOUD
@GTILOUD Ай бұрын
​@@walthen you got fucked then Steve didn't pay you enough for your commercial
@SG-Cichlids
@SG-Cichlids Ай бұрын
For the price and the hype I expected more. Its a nice amp but I thought it would have been more under rated like some of the other big name amps.
@meade916
@meade916 Ай бұрын
a 3,000 watt rated amp that does 3700 watts and almost 4700 watts dynamic RMS, how much more underrated should it be?
@SG-Cichlids
@SG-Cichlids Ай бұрын
@meade916 I'm not knocking the amp. Just wasn't what I expected. Some of the other big name amps do well over rated with good dynamic power at all ohm loads. More efficiently too. Like I said it's nice but not what I expected.
@wal
@wal Ай бұрын
I think using the Dyno as the only means to compare amps makes it tough especially considering how much power you can get for so little these days. This amp lineup is unique and impressive
@SG-Cichlids
@SG-Cichlids Ай бұрын
@wal very true. I won't buy one of the cheap amps being put out these days. Personally I'll pay more for what I consider quality amps. For example of an impressive amp. Look at your review of the kicker warhorse 3600. Absolute beast of an amp with the quality I'd pay more for.
@SG-Cichlids
@SG-Cichlids Ай бұрын
@Des420 not trying to come to anyone's defense but he never really craps on anyone's products. He calls it the turds when they don't perform. This amp isn't a turd.
@SoberBassHead
@SoberBassHead Ай бұрын
Nice looking amp, however in a world of cheaper power I would definitely pass. I think that it’s bad timing for them to release these amps, not only that but most of the other Korean amps more than exceed their ratings and can run below 1 ohm with no problems.
@wal
@wal Ай бұрын
I don't think they made these to compete with budget models with the looks and extra features. Remember 0.8 on the Dyno is 0.5 or less with speakers
@SoberBassHead
@SoberBassHead Ай бұрын
@ ohh I definitely understand and agree. I just personally think that if these would have dropped about 2 years earlier they would have dominated the market. In a world where JP, Ruthless and names like Sundown rule the car audio scene, these amps are just overpriced in my opinion for the comparison.
@TikiDoorman
@TikiDoorman Ай бұрын
​​@@SoberBassHeadAgree. This is an older, inefficient design that just doesn't hold up against SALT, JP33, Incriminator IX, Ruthless and DD Audio amps with more up to date circuits.
@GTILOUD
@GTILOUD Ай бұрын
​@wal what extra features the dogs shit efficiency? 😂😂😂
@GTILOUD
@GTILOUD Ай бұрын
"The looks" make it worth 3x as much amps that are more efficient 😂😂😂😂
@andresmauriciorestrepo1485
@andresmauriciorestrepo1485 Ай бұрын
Desde hace más de 10 años veo tus videos, primera vez que los traduces al español . Que bien 👍. Saludos desde COLOMBIA 🤗
@hardhead7056
@hardhead7056 Ай бұрын
Thank you for showing the real results. Without bumping the voltage. Till the end. I noticed that. 😄 Still there was some political bias in the video. Soften the review the review for your friend.
@murrayshekelberg9754
@murrayshekelberg9754 Ай бұрын
unsubbed off of this vid. the jp bias was bad enough but it seems clear now that good reviews can be bought here
@TommyGunn2208
@TommyGunn2208 Ай бұрын
I personally thought it would have done more
@Alternate_Ending
@Alternate_Ending Ай бұрын
No kidding, I was expecting old school cheater amp performance. I think he was being generous in his responses because they are friends? Pretty sure we know his stance on being honest on the specs.
@meade916
@meade916 Ай бұрын
a 3,000 watt amp that does 3700 watts and almost 4700 watts dynamic....how much more do you want? LOL.
@drrckhamilton
@drrckhamilton Ай бұрын
You know, when amplifiers started trending towards manufacturers overrating their specs, we all got irritated, knowing that the 3000-watt amp wasn't really producing the stated output. Hence, the amp dyno was born. Now, it's not enough for an amp to meet its rated specs. We want amps that far far exceed its stated specs, or it doesn't meet our expectations.
@bearxbunny1835
@bearxbunny1835 Ай бұрын
@@drrckhamilton Well if I paid $700 for a 3k amp I would DEFINITELY want more!!! The Orion 3k HCCA can be got for $649 and that thing puts out almost double the rated and let's be honest, it has the prestige that most people look for when they go big on price
@bearxbunny1835
@bearxbunny1835 Ай бұрын
Don't speak negative about it, he don't like that!!!
@marcr1333
@marcr1333 Ай бұрын
Waited for you to post this amp. While I read the description to it when he posted it all I heard was your voice 😂 especially Tiffany Style Rcas😂😂
@lowlifebasshead219
@lowlifebasshead219 Ай бұрын
Not worth the money
@CarAudioEnthusiasts
@CarAudioEnthusiasts Ай бұрын
not to you, thats a personal decision.
@boltingskyline5234
@boltingskyline5234 Ай бұрын
Big D! Do a what's in the box edit, with those PYLE OF sub woofers. Then when Brad see's the PYLE OF's, then cut to him executing the subs? You gotta' do it, Bro!😎😎👍👍
@________GHOST________
@________GHOST________ Ай бұрын
My money is on JP's series amps period 😮
@wal
@wal Ай бұрын
I think they are both pretty awesome 👌
@herbyverstink
@herbyverstink Ай бұрын
whats the word on longevity of those JP amps?
@meade916
@meade916 Ай бұрын
I say do it! I say run a PALLET of JP amps in your ride. Those things are pretty nice. What did you end up going with though? Lets see!
@K12127
@K12127 Ай бұрын
@@herbyverstinkmine lasted like 8 months before it blew. But it could have been user error too. But the jp amp is the only amp I’ve blown in 15 years so idk. It was great while it worked I’ll prolly give them another shot cuz it could of been my fault too
@garyv6442
@garyv6442 Ай бұрын
I've had my jp23 V1.5 running at 1ohm on 2 Power Acoustic Mofo 12s for over 3 years and bangs just as hard as it did the day I installed it.
@williamr4939
@williamr4939 Ай бұрын
I just wonder why he went with DS-18 when he's been hyping up B2
@fortyfukinseven
@fortyfukinseven Ай бұрын
Because they would have to charge $3K for a 3K with his name on it, and nobody would buy it
@williamr4939
@williamr4939 Ай бұрын
So you use a brand that's like skar audio
@wal
@wal Ай бұрын
I'm sure it was a personal decision based on many factors
@Slimerancher69
@Slimerancher69 Ай бұрын
What's wrong with ds18 I had there 8 inch subs and they did awesome for the price
@BDauto86
@BDauto86 Ай бұрын
​@@williamr4939DS18 has several lines of products to accommodate entry level up to competition. They're Hooligan amps are badass.
@4BillC
@4BillC Ай бұрын
My only issue with these tests is the voltage. Not many vehicles get 14.5 volts. Definitely nit picky here but normally it's closer to 13.5-14 volts. I'd like to see how they perform at those lower voltages. Is there a big difference?
@wal
@wal Ай бұрын
I try to keep as close to 14.4 as possible as this is where most amps are rated for their output power
@doctersound9630
@doctersound9630 Ай бұрын
1255 is not 1300, where is the fail music? (Parts tolerance... seems like preferential treatment, just sayin') - 2160 is not 2200 also a fail... yet no fail music. (Hummmmm, still being positive?) Greater than 80% efficient is also NOT 74% (Again seems like you are being BIASED) - Would go in a Show car? You would lose points for those DS18 stickers on the CAPS, not even straight...maybe that's the Rainbows (LEDs) fault? haha! I'm GLAD it went into protect to save itself... but... we ALL wanted to see .5ohm and .25 ohm etc... There is definitely some "FRIEND" Bias going on here. Would just like you to be consistent. (Fair enough?) - LOVE your videos. Like SMD as well. No hate. We all just like Consistency and facts. Cheers from Canada!
@TikiDoorman
@TikiDoorman Ай бұрын
The manual/spec sheet actually states greater than 86% efficient at 4 OHM. So, did Big D just make a mistake, or was he trying to make it sound like the amp wasn't a good 12% lower than the advertised efficiency? Kind of hard to market an amp that's only 74% efficient at 4 OHM when every other Korean amp is doing that at 1 OHM. Hell, the seven year old SKAR SKV2 has a better circuit and is way more efficient and powerful than this 3K, while being $250 less, right now.
@JaimeVelazquez-dr8hk
@JaimeVelazquez-dr8hk Ай бұрын
One of my most favorite car audio person and the other guy I can’t stand . Steve is so rude to his fans and responds to them like he’s their father . I wonder if anyone els feels the same? Meanwhile I really like big d !!
@daniels1st
@daniels1st Ай бұрын
Absolutely! The guy just can't seem to be nice to anyone. And he's very good at twisted words around. But Big D is awesome!!!
@DTW-bx2vy
@DTW-bx2vy Ай бұрын
Steve Meade certainly has anger issues toward people who do not spoon feed him what he wants to hear. He has proven this in so many of his KZbin videos.
@tynothdorft7374
@tynothdorft7374 Ай бұрын
​@DTW-bx2vy nah, I think shelley is just misunderstood.
@kswis
@kswis Ай бұрын
I'll be completely honest, i always thought of smd as higher end of car audio equipment. I have over a grand in distortion meters amm1 ect. Not knocking ds18, but that's always been cheap, expected to fall short. I'm disappointed...
@murrayshekelberg9754
@murrayshekelberg9754 Ай бұрын
did you see the $9 alibaba LOC that got a SMD logo and resold for well over $100? SMD stuff is oven rebranded or cheap off the shelf parts with a massive markup
@RP4886
@RP4886 Ай бұрын
Interesting. I don't think recoil was given this much grace. The big sponsored videos seem to be um... Nevermind. I enjoy the fair videos of budget Amazon finds
@512juancho
@512juancho Ай бұрын
Same shit i said bro😂😂
@cm1752
@cm1752 Ай бұрын
Beautiful amp, love the design and the look of the meter. However, I'll stick with my Salt-3.
@meade916
@meade916 Ай бұрын
the Salt 3 is a nice amp. Great choice! I love Sundown too.
@cm1752
@cm1752 Ай бұрын
@@meade916 For sure. Can't beat a 3k rated amp that clamps more than 4k @ 1ohm.
@1978DirtyD
@1978DirtyD Ай бұрын
Crossfire 2k will out do that amp. And you can run dem ho ho ho’s @ .25 all day if you got the power
@doctersound9630
@doctersound9630 Ай бұрын
Gave my kid my mint condition CFA30HC - running at 0.75 ohm, (2x 6ohm DVC 12' subwoofers) SOLID RELIABLE and more than enough for what he needs...will likely run forever! Cheers!
@1978DirtyD
@1978DirtyD Ай бұрын
@ crossfire builds some of the greatest underrated equipment available in modern society 😂😂
@lieutenantmikeo5979
@lieutenantmikeo5979 Ай бұрын
​@@1978DirtyDagreed especially they're subs
@RoboDriller
@RoboDriller Ай бұрын
11:48 Huasind is Chinese yeah?
@TikiDoorman
@TikiDoorman Ай бұрын
This amp only uses the highest quality Korean components. 😅
@RoboDriller
@RoboDriller Ай бұрын
@@TikiDoorman Assembled in Korea? Looks cool, I hope it performs very well long run especially for the cost.
@TikiDoorman
@TikiDoorman Ай бұрын
@RoboDriller It's supposedly assembled in Korea. Those Samyoung caps are still mid grade 85C units and this board is a twenty year old circuit design with horrid efficiency.
@RoboDriller
@RoboDriller Ай бұрын
@@TikiDoorman so a hard no go you recommend? Although those 20 year amps still be kicking!
@TikiDoorman
@TikiDoorman Ай бұрын
@@RoboDriller If I'm buying a 3K today and want a Korean design, I'm going JP33 for $450. Kills the DS18 in every area.
@jackravan3242
@jackravan3242 Ай бұрын
Whats the reason to buy this instead of a ds18?
@poppynokc1977
@poppynokc1977 Ай бұрын
Buy either, you'll still get DS18.🤷🏽
@funship5673
@funship5673 Ай бұрын
I'm "Down For Sound" when it comes to value for your money + efficiency 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@nickdean468
@nickdean468 Ай бұрын
Ill use this Amp to Run my House set up . Yes i run car Audio indoors . Beautiful and bumbs
@BentonL
@BentonL Ай бұрын
Seems to be one of the more expensive ways to 3000 watts at over $600.
@CarAudioEnthusiasts
@CarAudioEnthusiasts Ай бұрын
so yea, a corvette is an expensive way to do 60 on the interstate as well.
@BentonL
@BentonL Ай бұрын
​@@CarAudioEnthusiasts I think it is reasonable to expect some insane old school cheater stats considering the price point and the game Steve speaks.
@orlyb7497
@orlyb7497 23 күн бұрын
Very nice video. I like Smd videos too, long time subscriber. He does answer my inquiries. Btw, I purchased a Sound Q Qubed F1-3000, bass knob sold separately. They launched their F series this year. Will it be possible to make a video. I have not seen or heard anyone having this Sound Q Qubed F1-3000 as their amp, it sounded alright, better than my old AB ST-3000. I think it is Brazilian design. I have always enjoyed your channel. Thanks and more power to your channel! Happy new year!
@KN-vl9ob
@KN-vl9ob Ай бұрын
Lets see it...SMD vs D4S shootout 😊😊
@TikiDoorman
@TikiDoorman Ай бұрын
JP33 slaughters this amp for $300 less. 😮
@RomaVilla
@RomaVilla Ай бұрын
@@TikiDoormanI agree
@mattburgess2
@mattburgess2 Ай бұрын
Jp23v2 does also for even less 🤷‍♂️
@TikiDoorman
@TikiDoorman Ай бұрын
@@mattburgess2 I was comparing JP33 because it's a Korean amp and wanted to be fair. Otherwise, I would've pulled the Taramps SMART 3 card.
@yairzamora4662
@yairzamora4662 Ай бұрын
Good stuff man im always following all your demos maybe you should consider dyno testing the orion xtr pro 3500.1dx the newest models i been wanting to see how much power it makes would appriciate it
@bearxbunny1835
@bearxbunny1835 Ай бұрын
It is a nice looking amp, but I am not going to pay double just cuz it has those extra 3 letters on it ijs
@wal
@wal Ай бұрын
If that’s the only reason you think it cost more then wow 😮
@bearxbunny1835
@bearxbunny1835 Ай бұрын
@wal well yeah, the lights and all too
@bearxbunny1835
@bearxbunny1835 Ай бұрын
@wal but at that price point any other amp that I can remember you dyno'd did much better. Would you pick this amp over the SD sae3000??? Or the HCCA 3k??? Even the XTR2500 (which is almost half the price)??? Iam talking strictly performance, aren't there better picks available???
@bearxbunny1835
@bearxbunny1835 Ай бұрын
@wal I don't blame you for sticking up for your boy and all, but let's just be honest
@bearxbunny1835
@bearxbunny1835 Ай бұрын
@@Des420 For realz!!! Imagine paying 26 bucks for a single speaker terminal that's not even copper all cuz it says SMD?!?!?! I understand the need to make money nowadays, but what he charges for this stuff is egomaniacal
@FrankStPeter
@FrankStPeter Ай бұрын
I thought this thing would at least do some of the same numbers as the HCCAs damn The XTRs do better numbers for cheaper back to the drawing board DS 18 another failure
@wal
@wal Ай бұрын
The HCCA’s put up insane numbers for sure but I’d take an amp that did what was expected plus an excellent protection circuit over one that was just vastly underrated. It sure is fun to see an amp do more than rated tho so I understand where you are coming from
@FrankStPeter
@FrankStPeter Ай бұрын
@wal yeah me too bro I totally don't want to get more than what I paid for 🤨 The XTR and HCCA protection circuit is second to none,, I bet you can't reverse polarity that amp and it turned back on,, if you want to pay that much for a VU meter and some colored lights have added homie I'm here for the numbers and output not pretty
@FrankStPeter
@FrankStPeter Ай бұрын
I would like to say to you though D again though I don't always agree with your observations I do appreciate the hard work you put into your channel,,, you just supply the information and it's up to us what we do with it,,, surprised you haven't blocked me after all these years
@timmontanez3781
@timmontanez3781 Ай бұрын
I am still waiting for a test of the 5 Channel version.!!
@travestyscardfix2731
@travestyscardfix2731 Ай бұрын
Was excited until I looked up the price
@corytapp223
@corytapp223 Ай бұрын
Just a little over $100 more can get you a jp 5k amp
@PedroKing99
@PedroKing99 Ай бұрын
Gorgeous amps! Would look nice in a Rolls Royce even 😎✌️
@tminusoftexas3224
@tminusoftexas3224 Ай бұрын
You know after seeing the results. Hard pass. Because it is a SMD backed amp I expect better performance. If He was testing it he would give it hell for not making rated power. Now I know it’s still a lot of power but you stated a power and didn’t make it. Looks are great. But I’ll take efficiency and accurate numbers. But I’m sure V2 series of these will be a beast.
@meade916
@meade916 Ай бұрын
It did do rated power. What video did you watch?
@tminusoftexas3224
@tminusoftexas3224 Ай бұрын
@@meade916 few ticks shy with lithium battery bank. I’m a huge supporter of you for years back before the Lexus. Go to some of your amp test videos. You even would say rate it what is say and you be ok.and this was before lithium and high end battery set ups. I understand your business angle and believe me for price point and power not bad. At the end of the day I have to base my opinion on off the hard core Meade values in testing. Very little head room on rms I don’t expect that from you others yes. When I think of your product I see pound for proud a beast mode I own several of your smd products never disappointed. But when I see a SMD amp rated for example at 2500 and you put that baby on dyno and it slaps you with 3k or more. So don’t take it as a hate it’s constructive criticism. You my friend have build a brand from ground up and that brand is you,you have never ever been a just nearly made the goal. You always met and exceeded any thing you attempted so that’s why I said v2 gonna be a beast!
@meade916
@meade916 Ай бұрын
@@tminusoftexas3224 This is a 3000 watt amp that did way over 3,000 watts. No problems here. Other than that I don't know what you are talking about.
@truemopar
@truemopar 6 күн бұрын
@meade916 the mtx 2500 699.99 Your amp smd 3k 699.99 Mtx rated 2500 did 2900 clip 3300 and burst 4600 SMD 3k rated 3k did 3200 clip3600 and burst 4600 So I get what you saying @tminusoftexas the head room but at end of the day it doing what it is suppose to. We get spoiled also u get plexiglass and smd gauge
@GregorySmith-hw8gf
@GregorySmith-hw8gf Ай бұрын
Man I was really hoping the amplifier would do 1/2 ohm considering it's a Korean board 🤔😒🫤
@wal
@wal Ай бұрын
I think the protection circuit is just really set to safe as to be reminded, the 0.8 on the Dyno is equivalent to 0.5 or less with speakers
@GTILOUD
@GTILOUD Ай бұрын
"Korean" lmao
@roblinprasad528
@roblinprasad528 Ай бұрын
Taramps amp bigboss 3k for $250😅 does the job. Almost 700$ for this amplifier. Naa pass. Still a ds18 amp😊
@wsxbrken9366
@wsxbrken9366 Ай бұрын
exactlyyyyyyyyyyy
@penislandfishing1607
@penislandfishing1607 Ай бұрын
I bought the smart 8 bass for 650 and man does that thing hit
@florida995
@florida995 Ай бұрын
You get what you pay for. If you’re paying $250 for 3k watts then you’re getting an amp with $250 quality. Lol
@wsxbrken9366
@wsxbrken9366 Ай бұрын
@@florida995 with that ‘DS18’ amp, you’re paying $300 more for a signature and some cool rgb lights with an included exclusive to ds18; drawback in power💀 It’s a ‘DS18’ amp god dammit🤦🏻‍♂️ not far off from quality as taramps and Stetsom and yes I’m saying taramps and Stetsom are better because non of their amps have been advertised having overrated power, unlike the infamous ds18 💀
@weeduck9579
@weeduck9579 Ай бұрын
this is more for people that care about aesthetics as much as making power, think car show guys vs us regular bassheads.
@darkside59
@darkside59 27 күн бұрын
I'm a huge fan of Govee LEDs. They should implement Govee for LEDs, but all and all, sweer looking amp
@dannyphantom5201
@dannyphantom5201 Ай бұрын
Ehh was seriously looking at this but not making/exceeding rated at lower ohms with good voltage is con to me. Couple that w average efficiency, i think I'll look elsewhere for now.
@meade916
@meade916 Ай бұрын
It did make and exceed its rated power by far at lower ohms. You mean 2 and 4? It did it there too. Certified 1% was just a little low by a couple watts at the higher impedances. But up to clipping, which is pretty standard, it exceeded it's ratings easily.
@dannyphantom5201
@dannyphantom5201 Ай бұрын
@meade916 no disrespect but seeing other amps tested on the channel at similar or even lower price points easily hitting rated power at 1% and usually beating them by good margin too almost makes this a little underwhelming imo. Ofc there's more to an amp then raw numbers but one can't say it's a small part either when it comes to comparing one to another
@meade916
@meade916 Ай бұрын
@@dannyphantom5201 this amp is designed to be played at 1ohm and it more than exceeded the ratings in all modes at 1ohm. A couple of watts (in certified mode) can be gained back on those 2 and 4 ohm tests with just a slight bit more power. Perhaps just .2 or .3v. Up to clipping on the 2 and 4 ohm tests, it exceeded it's ratings. Not that big of a deal.
@dannyphantom5201
@dannyphantom5201 Ай бұрын
We both know impedance rise is going to affect that and we both know that while playing music the ohm load is going to fluctuate, not stay at 1ohm the whole time. Not being a hater but also not going to glaze simply because it's got smd on the amp
@FrankStPeter
@FrankStPeter Ай бұрын
@@dannyphantom5201 oh now you did it You're in for it now mister you heart his feelings you know you're not allowed to have a different opinion than his,, You're a troll You're a hater or he just can't admit that he put his name on something that sucks
@Houndzee
@Houndzee Ай бұрын
However this amp looks very cheap. The stickers on the caps and the printing around the terminals and crossover pots looks like it’s straight from China.
@twiztidkreation
@twiztidkreation 2 күн бұрын
I dig Steve Meade. He’s got some good stuff he’s made on collaboration, but this amp doesn’t seem to be one of them. Yeah it’s a let down, but hopefully he can learn and improve.
@Okami_KIRK
@Okami_KIRK Ай бұрын
where is the womp womp for not meeting spec?!?! Jp33 or Big Boss 3k for me bro
@ejsvirtualgarage
@ejsvirtualgarage Ай бұрын
Wow! It's awesome to see names like Steve Meade & JP on amps & stuff. Very happy for them!
@wal
@wal Ай бұрын
Agreed, they are both killing it!
@RP4886
@RP4886 Ай бұрын
U can strap two of these together, hopefully it will make rated
@HighVybeTribe
@HighVybeTribe Ай бұрын
The test bump section with that massive subwoofer sounded great in my vehicle
@workingclassbear6523
@workingclassbear6523 Ай бұрын
1st biased video ive seen from you on yeats of being a fan.😢
@strescicca
@strescicca Ай бұрын
i think i'd pass on this one. plenty of other amps that perform better for the money.
@TheGodofSEO
@TheGodofSEO Ай бұрын
Awesome amp Steveo. Way too pricey for my swap meet-lovin’ budget but I really like it. Great work on it and it bump doe.
@dietrichwilliams2913
@dietrichwilliams2913 Ай бұрын
Love the guy!, But wayyy to overpriced for my price point!
@wal
@wal Ай бұрын
Not for everybody, but if you want to show off your amp and have great sound then paying more should be expected
@tylerolson5860
@tylerolson5860 Ай бұрын
Not impressed given the cost!
@wal
@wal Ай бұрын
I'm sure they could've gone cheaper and made it look plain and such but that wasn't the route he wanted with his name on the amp
@tylerolson5860
@tylerolson5860 Ай бұрын
@wal That things really power hungry too. Im all for efficient amps so you dont need a big amp alt and a bunch of reserve batteries.
@chrishickey5605
@chrishickey5605 Ай бұрын
Not only badass but, exceptionally beautiful!!!!!!
@Valverde713
@Valverde713 Ай бұрын
Not enough to validate the $700 price tag
@ehrenkrause9861
@ehrenkrause9861 Ай бұрын
0:32 i watched steve sign the boxes. Cool you got one
@tynothdorft7374
@tynothdorft7374 Ай бұрын
So rad!
@vincentrusso4332
@vincentrusso4332 29 күн бұрын
How did the dynamic @ 1ohm produce so much more power, shouldn't it be consistent with the 4 and 2 ohm averages? Thanks Big D. - Surry Virginia
@Warg666
@Warg666 Ай бұрын
Won 2nd place from one SMD Amp Test Tuesday give away, got a Lightning Audio 12in sub.
@rasikaruwanpathirana202
@rasikaruwanpathirana202 Ай бұрын
Love this channel! i recently bought Alpine KTA-200M Power Pack. haven't had a chance to install it yet. I'd love to see one of those on the testing bench. super curious about specs and what 's DPP tech all about.
@ah4800
@ah4800 Ай бұрын
Just a ds18 amp with smd slapped on it. Mehhhhhhh. Quality amps are rated at 12 volts
@wal
@wal Ай бұрын
Amps haven’t been rated at 12V since the 90s except I’ve seen Taramps provide ratings at 12.6. These are quality amps and you’d know if you look at the internals
@ah4800
@ah4800 Ай бұрын
@wal salt series is rated 12volts you actually made that mistake in your videos about them.
@RomaVilla
@RomaVilla Ай бұрын
@@walOrion , cresendo, and crossfire rated at 12.6 v
@kostasvlaxos8069
@kostasvlaxos8069 Ай бұрын
Big D.Pls do 1 18 vs 2 12s of the same series with low wattage/high wattage difference and a 25hz till 45hz video
@kostasvlaxos8069
@kostasvlaxos8069 Ай бұрын
But pls make sure the liters of the boxes are pretty equal and the tunings are also 30 or below
@michealdenelsbeck3399
@michealdenelsbeck3399 24 күн бұрын
Hey bro when are you going to look into DD audio it's originated in built in Oklahoma just like kicker but they have entry middle and super high-end I would love to see you Dino r amplifiers and test subs there are the first ones to put a neo ring on the subwoofer for all the sundown fans 😂 absolute quality
@jus1taj
@jus1taj Ай бұрын
Pretty pretty.
@aarontyrrell2931
@aarontyrrell2931 Ай бұрын
Beautiful!!
@joeygarcia6783
@joeygarcia6783 Ай бұрын
Super nice amp 😊
@lilh138
@lilh138 Ай бұрын
Finally, I been waiting for you to make a video dyno test on this amp. Your the best!
@wal
@wal Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@jjthomas9656
@jjthomas9656 Ай бұрын
Beautiful
@navinali3648
@navinali3648 Ай бұрын
Can you do a Soundigital dyno test... love your content 👍
@navinali3648
@navinali3648 Ай бұрын
Something around 2000 watts 800 watts
@tct9mm151
@tct9mm151 Ай бұрын
Hell yea! I've been watching SMD's website at this exact amp! She got some dynamics!! I'm a buyer. GRREAT VID BIG D
@wal
@wal Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
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