Amazing new apps for a 20 year old PowerMac!?

[@dmug]

If you're looking for something else to watch about retro Macs, I made a video about the story of Half-Life on the Mac kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZami5KngdiIbc0

[@SpeedyRob]

Great content as always! I remember using some of these softwares when my dad gave me his old iMac G4 when I was around 14. PPC Macs were already obsolete at the time but I still managed to get some use out of it thanks to projects like macintosh garden

[@dmug]

I lived through this era but never had a computer as nice as the G4 I have now. The first Mac I bought ever was a G3 450 but things moved so fast that I sold it after only about 2 years for a PowerMac G4 466 which I upgraded the hell out of and later had dual G5. It was cool at the time but now it has better appeal. Not sure if you felt like that then...

[@TheMetalMag]

I'm impressed to see people still trying to keep up new things working for the ppc computers, the best for me I have several G4 that really got me doing tons of great jobs.

[@adrianoarruguetti2]

Your video came at just the right time. I just got a QuickSilver, and I’m going to try out your tips. Thanks for the content, and long live PowerPC!

[@dmug]

I've had mine a year now, I bought it October, dual 1.4 GHz and meant to make this video many months ago. The GTA video I made, I hacked a ATI Radeon 9600 from a G5 for PowerMac G4 as I needed OpenGL 2.0 support kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6rRh2B6eb6Whtk Also I made a list of games too. blog.greggant.com/posts/2024/02/19/the-a-tier-late-powerpc-gaming-list.html

[@miguimau]

I was booting my good old G4/867 Quicksilver today. Just in time too. Specs of yours?

[@adrianoarruguetti2]

@ My QuickSilver is an entry-level model, 733MHz, 512MB RAM, 60GB hard drive. I got a Cinema Display in perfect condition, and recently acquired a keyboard and mouse from the same era 😊

[@beginlinuxguru7354]

This is cool. I have a pair of G5 PowerMacs, and an G4 eMac. I'll definitely try this stuff out on them.

[@edmorris1437]

“It’s a great way to get misinformation, even in retro computing.” LOL, I almost spit out my coffee.

[@dmug]

Probably should have zoomed in but chat gpt gave me only partially correct info during that segment too.

[@edmorris1437]

@ As it happens, I had already dug my old iBook G4 yesterday to play an old retro game this weekend: Harpoon Classic. The iBook is set up to dual boot between 10.4 and Sorbet. I had wondered about replacing the HD with an SSD, but I’ve read that job is a bit of a pain.

[@arxaaron]

Thanks for this one! Motivation to triage a couple of old Powermac G4 systems I've owned or inherited over the years and use their weighty, stylish case design for something other than really nice end tables. 😉 Unfortunately, not a lot in the way of PPC Linux out there or they could be fully functional systems, but Tigerbrew opens the door to a lot more Linux FLOSS utility .

[@GradythaStudips]

Pretty neat video. remember discovering you through the mac pro discord, and seeing you're no longer in there during the discord lite showcase like myself makes me feel a fair bit better lol.

[@dmug]

Place was a bit weird. I don’t think I’m the right demographic for that one. I think I fall into Normie.

[@GradythaStudips]

@@dmug around the reveal of the apple silicon mac pro i thought it was alright-ish. I remember us all joking about how the new emojis will make up for the horrible mac pro. it certainly got weirder later on and it made me leave.

[@kirishima638]

Ah the late PowerPC era, when Apple still cared about open standards, upgradability and repairability, and every OSX release was significantly better and more polished.

[@dmug]

Yep, that era died in 2013 as things became locked down.

[@kirishima638]

@ along with Apple’s commitments to recycling.

[@wileysneak]

the underlying software that your NAS uses for AFP is called netatalk. you can run netatalk on any unix system, if you're on windows you can run it under WSL

[@rickkarrer8370]

For some further clarification on file sharing protocols: Apple dropped AFP on macOS 11 Big Sur. There is a third-party Samba server that you can install on macOS 11 and newer., using Brew, but I never got it to work. Instead, I'm using FileZilla's FTP Server on my Mac Studio., and connecting to it via FTP from older Macs that don't support SMB2. My only problem with FTP is that it will occasionally not work correctly, or my order Max will get disconnected after a period of time (and no, it's not a time out setting,, it's just buggy). There's also a way to set up NFS sharing, but it was really buggy for me.,

[@dmug]

I saw something about brew smb sharing but I can connect to the PowerMac G4 from my other computers, just not the inverse... so that's good enough.

[@GradythaStudips]

Personally (no clue exactly what i did, also EXTREMELY weird use case) but id have my xserve on mojave connected, and id select option do file sharing over both smb+afp and that would work well both ways.

[@peterscheepers5780]

On your remarks about networking, I still use a time capsule and have no issues communicating between my G4 mac’s and Intel Mac’s

[@Fatblokeonamoped]

I still use one of my MDD G4's on a regular basis with CS3.

[@stephanemignot100]

I mostly use my 2004 eMac to play DOS and Amiga games, using jit versions of E-UAE and DOSBox, Mac games too of course...

[@yelowpunk]

PPC is like, half Mac, half amazing

[@dmug]

Ha, I recreated the instrumental and didn’t expect anyone notice ;)

[@yelowpunk]

@@dmug you re-created it? that's all amazing!

[@Bushidounohana]

Very cool! Thinking about installing Linux on my late 12” PowerBook. Maybe dual boot it with Sorbet. I like that the machine can have some modernity, I don’t need much in my writer workflow, just not thrilled about doing extra work to making sure everything works. From my (admittedly limited) experience and research, dual booting with Linux seems like a daunting task on these machines … maybe I’m crazy?

[@dmug]

Honestly, I've never done it but perhaps I should try, if I recall right, it requires booting into OpenFirmware.

[@Bushidounohana]

@ yeah, in reality it’s probably not the catastrophe I’m imagining, and I have yet to bork a system from OpenFirmware (famous last words?), but I’ve also never successfully pulled it off, either. If you do give it a toss, I’d be interested in seeing how it goes!

[@maxfieldstarling7496]

How did you get discord lite working on 10.4? I got a captcha code that I can’t get past

[@dmug]

I dunno, it worked just fine?

[@CodyShell]

man, I want a powermac G4 now.

[@dmug]

If price and/or space is a consideration You might consider a Mac Mini G4 as often they can be found cheap. Often they'll pop up missing the PSU at e-cycle shops for about $50, and the PSU can be found on ebay for about $10-12 shipped. Spec wise, it's pretty solid, especially for OS 9. The 9200 Pro GPU with hacked drivers works in OS 9 and the 1.25 GHz G4 is blistering fast for OS 9. They'll run OS X Tiger just fine although not really a retro gaming OS X powerhouse with the 9200 Pro with only 32 MB of VRAM and lacking OpenGL 2.0 support but certainly can play many early OS X releases.

[@CodyShell]

@@dmug That's something cool to consider, I never gave a second thought to those early mac minis! I have a powermac G4 Cube, and early blueberry imac G3 and a flower power imac G3, however all of these are excruciatingly slow with 10.4 tiger 🤣 I just searched on craigslist in my local area and found someone selling a 2006 Mac Pro with the display and peripherals and boxes for $100! I hope he gets back to me!

[@ericbauer4559]

I need to get my quicksilver back up and running. Pulled the drives out for my iMac g4 and misplaced the second drive.

[@Derpy1969]

I still have a 2000 PPC G4 with an upgraded 1.2GHz CPU. I use it for ripping DVDs every now and then. I have a 2013 INtel iMac which I use every day. You know why I don’t use the PPC every day? Because it’s painful. It’s not fun. It’s M4 time.

[@SwissRuediger]

Mürren;-) grew up a few km away from this village. Went there?

[@dmug]

Yep, stayed 3 days in Gimmelwald, beautiful area. Switzerland makes our infrastructure look sad. Driving a car onto a train to be transported through a mountain was a first for me. I don't think I've been anywhere as consistently as nice as Schweiz and made sense why it always is near the top of the best standards of living / quality of life metrics. There are places as nice here but we're very much a place of haves and have nots. That said, Switzerland isn't easy on the wallet, I think the only place more spendy I've been in Iceland. As someone from the Pacific Northwest, the rugged peaks and mountain towns appeal to me.

[@PivisHanak]

What is a point of using Samba? I just turned on file sharing on my iMac G3 running 10.4 Tiger an my M1 Macbook with Sequia can copy files over network into it without any problems.

[@dmug]

Universal networking for computers and printers. Want to network cross platform? Use samba.

[@Thehugomac]

I've always wanted a Sonnet 1 GHz or 1.2 GHz CPU for my 733mhz Quicksilver PowerMac G4. Anyone know where to find one? Are they super rare or is there another PowerPC Motorola CPU option?

[@dmug]

There were many like NewerTech, Powerlogix, etc but they are pretty rare. I had a powerlogix 1.2 G4 in a DA powermac G4. When I sold it I didn’t take out the upgrade, I left it in the computer. Probably better off buying a different Mac based on the rarity. It’s why I nabbed a dual 1.4 GHz G4, I figured I’d never find a dual 1.8 GHz or even crazier the dual 2 GHz. I think every Mac has every make and model listed.

[@gamagama69]

its not that hard to compile, just supply the rom and your good. doing it this way is better anyways cuz you can select what addons you want

[@dmug]

I’m sure it isn’t but I wanted to spend as little time talking about the Nintendo. Explaining that would have meant spending more time trying to creatively not say Mario 64 or Nintendo and no reason to push my luck.

[@gamagama69]

@dmug thr sm64 decomp project was 100% legit reverse engineering

[@kefalospera2879]

Heeeeellpp !! I wanted to clean install OS in my Mac Pro 2019, I can't get in the recovery mode, I tried every possible solution, nothing works. This is the first time I tried to clean install Sequoia, I had Ventura before. Please someone help !!

[@dmug]

Not sure why you're commenting on PowerPC app video about the Mac Pro 2019 but be sure to use a wired keyboard. I'd also check in on MacRumors or Reddit as you're going to get a lot more eyes on it.

[@craigfuchs5464]

How about blender?

[@dmug]

Blender has a newer port to PowerPC? A quick google search and I’m just seeing a version from 2007.