Amazing RC Airplane review GONE WRONG - Avios C-130 V2

[@pauld7056]

Its a shame you crash so many planes, but it's inspiring you are honest in all your exploits and just keep moving forward.

[@3DPrintHangar_RC]

You're definitely an honest pilot with a lot of integrity to full-on admit your faults like that 🫡 Hats off to you brotha. Thanks for the hard learned info 🙌

[@JN24185]

Jay has zero issue laying it out there. He’s always straight up on his vids. Sometimes hilariously so.

[@SwitchRod]

Excellent video, crash assessment...attitude. Well done.

[@AerialRCFun]

Unfortunate, but your honesty and objectivity is rare and greatly appreciated!

[@incubrian]

dude! i think i remember watching your video when i was doing youtube research to see if i wanted to buy this plane or not, and you were flying on a snowy street. so i probably have you to thank for one of my fav models i have ever owned and flown. it has easily been one of my goto models over the last year or two, and i cannot say enough good things about how nicely it flies! i am super into flying this like a scale c130, and it often looks like the real thing, going at real speeds. i wanted to thank you for that, but also for how cool, honest, and forthright you were in this vid. unlike so many youtube content creators that would get emotional and blame things, you just admitted the 2 faults, and accurately diagnosed the prop explosion. i wanted to also add credence to your NTSB report haha, because when my c130 v2 showed up from HK, all 4 prop/spinners had appeared to have slight "melting" where the spinners all looked slightly deformed. This was made worse when i installed one and the bolt went right thru the spinner with very low torque. then when the prop fell off and hit the shop floor, the spinner broke into tons of pieces- very weird for plastics... so either these materials were just a weird polymer, or had an issue in making them. thankfully i sent pics to hobbyking and they were super pro about it and mailed me 4 new props but from the v1 c130, so my coast guard plane has gray propellers rather than these cool scale multicolor ones. but maybe the gray ones are more simple and thicker. i noticed that when installing the gray ones, there was no deformation, but even still i only snugged the props on rather than using "torque" like a typical RC prop install. i would not be surprised if this may have contributed, so it was great detective work on your end to find the cause being both assembly error of overtightening the bolt (i can vouch for that) and also pilot error. i think most pilots out there myself included, would have had the same death spiral as you, because no one can tell they lost a tiny engine that far away, and by the time you might even think about adverse yaw, its too late to glide it in power off. you ought to remove the other 3 props and just look inside the spinners as well as where the bolt seats and see if you also see any deformation of that spinner material. not saying you should blame HK for that, but just in terms of understanding what went wrong and how to avoid future crashes. my c130 has been flying amazing and i'll be checking the props and spinners before going out this 2024 season. thanks for your video, RC always needs more guys like you!

[@Jays_rcgarage]

Hey, thanks for taking the time to write this comment. Feels good knowing people appreciate what we put out there especially when calling our own faults. Glad yours is flying okay. And I can't vouch for the grey props but it may actually look more realistic with those in the air! Hopefully you continue to enjoy the model! This comment alone is making me consider another one. 🔥

[@carlhausler9666]

Jay, your honesty with this incident is inspiring. Great deep dive into cause and most importantly what you might have done differently. Great video

[@brianstasney7553]

Love your vids. Inspired me to order my son his first plane. Flew .45 and .60 nitro setups 30 years ago when I was a kid. Things have come a long way.

[@Sacred1Conversations]

Good to hear you be honest about the building error and the pilot error. Very challenging to do everything correctly for an engine out situation with multi engine craft . Very common with gas surprise with electric.

[@SanDiegoUteFan]

Hey Jay, Appreciate your “warts and all” honest approach with your videos. Definitely helps to educate all of us. Keep on buddy.

[@tomhuntFPV]

Good advice Jay! All I would add is that you know you've overtightened the prop screw when the spinner does not run true. If it wobbles, back off the screw until it runs true. I would also recommend a little foam tac glue on the threads to avoid any loosening!

[@incubrian]

these arent like usual spinners. these are molded into the prop itself as a one piece unit, so it will always "look" true. if you overtighten them you will actually deform the plastic (or whatever polymer they used to cast these) and the bolt will crush thru the seat, as well as deform the inner structure as jay pointed out in the vid. in my c130 the stock props had plastic that didnt seem fully cured or was too thin and even slight tightening (to what is "normal" RC torque) crushed the material to where it would not work anymore. so hobbyking sent me a new set of props from the v1 c130 which seemed to have stronger and thicker spinners. again, snug is all these need, any amount of "TIGHT" will completely destroy the material, crush the seat for the bolt head, and cause deformation inside.

[@tomhuntFPV]

Yes, I know the configuration of the props. I have one of the early ones. I actually did the analysis on the failures exhibited on this first batch for hobby king and made the recommendations not to overtighten. I experimented with my own model and found that overtightening DOES have thr visual clue of making the tip of the spinner wobble.... yes, the whole prop probably does, but it is easy to see it in the spinner.

[@290Alenka]

Good, honest, reviews without hysteria - Keep it up!

[@tughillrc6327]

Very good attitude about the crash, Nothing except throttle back may have saved it. No way to see the prop spin off and the resulting power indifference for sure was all bad. I own a HK C-130V2 and love it with out a gyro, I have 28 flights and have had no issues, I will take your advice and recheck my propellers but I did use lock tight and did not over tighten my screws. I also do a good preflight check before every flight to ensure every plane is right since my D-18 mishap of not checking the CG. I will not get in a hurry to fly for no one,

[@markhyde43]

I meant to comment earlier, but better late than never. I found out very early on with my version 1 and the upgraded version 1 that it will approach stall (tip stall) dropping the wing very quickly if allowed to get to slow with flaps and gear down in a turn. I does NOT like to get to slow while banking in a turn. It will fall out of the sky if your too low to recover. Definitely does not fly like a trainer. I have two of these. I probably work harder flying this plane than any other of my planes, including larger EDF jets. Not sure why. It is more sensitive in the air than anything I have. It's work!!! The only reason I have them and bought a new one like yours is because they look so super awesome and scale. And when I open the cargo door and drop parachutes.... Makes it all worth it.

[@EJ-74]

That thing is a beast!!! I finally got my first 4S battery to try out in my homemade builds, I've never flown on 4S so this should be interesting, may end in carnage like this plane did 😁 RIP poor Hercules C-130 🙏🏻

[@Jays_rcgarage]

We need to pray for the best lol homemade 4s plane will fly better than anything ever produced 🙏🏼😎🤝

[@EJ-74]

@@Jays_rcgarage Yeah it can be fixed fairly easily, I was just picking, Man I can't wait to fly on 4S, I'm going to try it in my homemade AeroScout wing plane as I call it, the only part thats not homemade is the wing, lol It's a lot lighter fuselage and it's not a pusher configuration which I prefer, I just got a new1500kv 6S Flash Hobby motor and a some new props to test also, It's fricn poring here in NC though, Hopefully it will clear up this weekend, I posted some pics on my community page, feel free to check it out, Thanks for all you do for the hobby, 🙏🏻

[@briancostales6709]

Love your videos man keep up the great work and thank you for promoting the RC hobby industry👍🏻🛩🚁

[@Jays_rcgarage]

Appreciate you ! 😀

[@HighDesertFlyers]

Good luck on the next flight pal. Thanks for the Video.

[@dogfoodking]

Great content. Have a drink from that sweet bar!

[@Jays_rcgarage]

😂 might need a few to wash this loss

[@pickled_finn_rc]

Bummer, happens to us all; awesome plane none the less!

[@agedflier9129]

An honest report and YES....To my eyes it is an easy fix A new fuselage or an easy repair if the model goes to a club member who is into fixing things.

[@Jays_rcgarage]

President of my club had a crashed one as well. He’s taking the 2 and making 1 😂

[@rcjrpilot]

Awesome review of the crash. Not a lot of people admit when in fault,always blaming on the plane or radio equipment …

[@RCFlyer007]

I think your first assessment of the Nacelle falling off was correct as this happened to me as I was on final approach. Mine was unfixable, but I did order another one which will be here tomorrow. I really like the C130 and how it flies but I will put a bead of glue on each side of each nacell to ensure that it will not happen again.

[@Jays_rcgarage]

Glad to hear you are getting another. I may also grab another. The scale look of this plane flying is amazing

[@jareddakid2]

Thanks for the vid Jay!

[@AeroNautical100]

I did the same exact thing on my banana hobby sky surfer a few weeks ago, I over tightened the prop and it exploded in flight, and ripped the motor mount off. I also throttled up but since the whole prop came off it wasn’t as bad

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

When you got on the throttle the prop came apart. You can see it fly off at 5:24

[@ChickenBasket15]

I love it. Sweet plane and keep up the great content!!

[@clawsmayhem7268]

I’d definitely be gluing that back together

[@moirawilliamson2612]

WOW This guy is very sucessfull.... Good job🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@daviddavids2884]

good analysis. if possible, you should determine whether the loss of the prop was followed by servo glitching (from excess vibration). because, it can be seen that there was a LOT of roll moment happening during the crash. in a typical of servo glitch control loss/crash, servos peg and ailerons go to max deflection; throttle might go to max also. d

[@695925]

Loved the video, I have an AR8360T in mine which I haven't flown yet as the props randomly start to spin after initialisation. Busting to get it in the air but not sure what is causing it. Wiring is all correct.

[@claudiomueckay7251]

That’s a question I always have when assembling a new model and tightening props and servos. How much is enough for a safe assembly and still permitting a free torque and not damaging any piece(?)

[@jaysrc]

Ah man!!! Great review and NTSB analysis….

[@Tommy06235]

off topic, but would the twin 64mm a-10 be a good first edf to start with? I know everyone says get the habu or something but i feel like it would be a waste because i don’t like how it looks and i would only fly it a few times to learn. So is the Twin 64 good?

[@Killerplanes]

Whoa! That’s a lot of big fat fuselage and a skinny wing, too- don’t think they’re designed for tight turns, so that probably helped too. Love the lubricants in the work room, too! (Did you lubricate the pilot before the flight? lol) Say hello to Tom for me!

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

Great video...👍

[@rickwentworth6842]

crazy! at 5:30 you can see the left inboard nacelle detach.

[@AL-RCjunkie]

Good investigation! 👍

[@charlesrestivo870]

How did u know at the battery hatch point it was last flight

[@RCFlyer007]

I was devastated when my nacell fell off on final approach but like I said, I ordered another one should be here tomorrow. Just to let everyone know…. Hobby King has them on sale for $292. That’s a really good price if you’re interested.

[@Jays_rcgarage]

👌🏼

[@thethreeamigos1729]

Love it sweet vids

[@beachtrash1852]

That plane should easily fly on three motors, indicating pilot error. Great post accident evaluation.

[@Junglist3345]

Hind sight is always 20/20. I crashed a new zero having reversed ailerons. Didn't pre flight.😂😢

[@rcg3496]

Great job… ntsc 👍🏾

[@davidharrington956]

Great job on figuring out the problem with the plain,and figuring the error of the pilot. The camera girl did a great job to. Hey you must go to the mall all the time to buy jewelry to keep your wife in the RC sport. Just kidding you both did a great job on figuring out the crash.

[@saeediqbal6075]

I don't know if you noticed in the slow motion replay, the equipment access door came off first and something else also flew out of the same area, propeller broke at impact, I might be wrong but that's what I saw, not a pilot error at all.

[@Chip-gk1ic]

On hobby king there is this mini bf 109 it’s like 3 inches long and like 33 quid if you get another you could try drop the bf109 out of the c130 just an idea …

[@javierrflores]

Great content!

[@Jays_rcgarage]

Thank you 🙏

[@sophoankhat3586]

Can it land on water

[@ChaseBartlett-n8c]

Good plane ware can I buy it can you link it in the dicription

[@chuckmaddison2924]

With those motors, I reckon Tim the tool man would get happy feelings. Makes mine look sad.

[@giorgioottaviani2841]

Good analysis man. Propeller loss and a/c stall. Sorry for your inconvenience.

[@Systemlord963]

I am not sure that it was overtightening. I specifically took care not to overtighten the screws, and on my maiden, the prop on the number 1 engine decided to explode while climbing on takeoff.

[@JN24185]

Love how our ladies like to remind us of the obvious “you just got this one too” Remember Jay 🤣lmao. Just turning that knife in there 😂

[@FIashOOT]

I am still sad that i didnt bought the eflite gee bee r2 when it was still available

[@Jays_rcgarage]

I have one of those 😂😎

[@FIashOOT]

@@Jays_rcgarage nice,from what i've saw,its a great ,fast,little plane

[@skysails1]

Accelerated stall?

[@Jays_rcgarage]

Seems to be 😢

[@LeeShand]

More importantly. Why is that Titos not in the Freezer??? :D

[@davyhendrix]

I did the same thing to my Gee Bee

[@shaynerabbitt8402]

Dude where do you live?? Jealous of your amazing flying spot

[@williiamtorreselera9667]

Velocidad máxima de vuelo

[@3120DownForce]

Why gear doors close so late/slow...not how the real c130 operates gear.

[@antonyrichmond9490]

Please get another

[@EliSwiat-qz4ow]

Dear Jay You are really talented with flying RC planes and your an amazing content creator.I wish i could fly planes like you.I would like to ask if you would maybe send me a RC Jet so I can learn how to fly like you.Thanks for the amazing content you make and I hope you continue to make more amazing content for me and your other fans From Eli

[@leomcnee4522]

id buy one but i think it would reach the same fate

[@spidersugar_fpv]

By chance do you know where I can FIND one thats not sold out -_- lol Help a fellow RC homie out xoxo

[@Jays_rcgarage]

They were in stock a few weeks back. Not sure man. lol I’m sure they will be back eventually

[@vrosi1963]

looks completely repairable with some carbon fiber longerons inside , you should have glided in and nothing much wouls have happened . but . I pretty muchly destroyed a Flightline B24 with the same issue but was 5 feet off the runway just after a prop strike thar ripped off one nacelle

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

*I ❤️ BLEEDAIR BLIMPS!!!!*

[@Lonsome1223]

Definitely the lose of that engine caused that yaw spin crash Throttle back and full opposite rudder may have helped.

[@charlesrestivo870]

Shame but stuff happens Nice video

[@wesleynash9385]

Cockpit voice recorder *Shudder* Captain:what was that we are losing altitude First officer: lost engine #2 Captain: shut it down and give engines 1 and 2 less throttle First Officer: we are banking left ****Stall warning*** Captain: right right right! *****CRASH IMPACT******

[@Jays_rcgarage]

Rough day to be a C-130

[@daviddavids2884]

putting split flaps on a tiny aircraft is mistake.! well, if they are used it's a mistake.!

[@JohnVHRC]

Thats a shame, I enjoy mine

[@sullytrny]

Prop exploded

[@cleopooch8640]

need to add JATO bottles

[@THEGOGETTERSINVEST]

Just lost my 2ch predator drone to 15mph wind don’t fly a 2ch in wild I learns my lesson

[@Jays_rcgarage]

Ahhh, yeah the smaller ones deff dont like wind. Sorry to hear it

[@THEGOGETTERSINVEST]

@@Jays_rcgarage all good apart of the hobby you live and you learn. I just had to learn the hard way DO NOT fly 2Ch in wind at all lmaooo it went so high even with power off wouldn’t come down. I just got the 3ch predator in today hopefully she flies way better than the 2ch with the elevator

[@normg2242]

We don't pretend to be de professionals, we are just de amateur rc lovers and if we fly, we fly and if we crash, we crash. We do de vidohs without de editink from day one and vatever hhappens, hhappens hey. Vill diz be de maiden flight or de maiden crash, who de hhell knows until we try hey...

[@Talaria_78]

Rip

[@jimbrown5091]

Nice liquor rack!!

[@Jays_rcgarage]

Come on over 🍹

[@redfoxlegionstopmotionstud7874]

no!

[@bitcoinsaudi6473]

Can you please send me a rc airbus a380

[@jeffrapp7278]

Last ever?😮

[@donpardo9093]

hard left bank into dead motor side. you compromised that nacelle and motor on the hard no gear down slam into the runway earlier. you weakened the mount. simple.