Amazing Spider-Man 60 Review | Zeb Wells is Done

[@doyscherr]

I forgot that Aunt May didn't know Peter Parker was Spider-Man. Boy does One More Day suck.

[@bgvo4373]

@@doyscherr honestly, while she is a waste of space, I actually liked this exchange if only because it showed some character.

[@kevin-2.1]

Yep 😔😔🤦‍♂️

[@valiantparagonvideos2383]

It's the worst run of all time. It irreparably ruined Peter's most important supporting character (without a retcon), everyone was OOC, the plots led nowhere, it's full of dropped plots and plotholes, and has no redeeming value beyond the art, but since the art is depicting terrible things, well, it also kind of sucks. This issue solved nothing. IMO it's the worst issue of the run outside of Dead Language. Just.....complete garbage. The reality is even though the Wells run is "over", it's not, really. Because the SQ he set up remains the SQ going forward. A black hole and a stain on the series forever.

[@geoffcole8994]

The only thing good about this finale issue, was the art and that’s it. After two and half years, the only closure of what we get between Peter and MJ, is that she thanks Peter for saving and bringing her home without even apologizing to him for her earlier behavior towards him at the beginning of this run. While it’s clear they still love each other, the hole that Zeb created will take time and effort to fully heal when a new writer comes in and actually cares for them. Now MJ has this reputation as someone who cheated on Peter, which she DID NOT, as she was directly manipulated and forced into a relationship with a complete stranger by raising two fake kids. As one last deliberate middle finger to the fans, we have Peter and MJ with their new love interests going on double date and acting everything is going to great from now on , which it absolutely it will not be.

[@noir-214]

That's the only thing that got better throughout this run of Spider-Man

[@ChrisP58]

I hate retconning…. But if they want to retcon this run…then by all means.

[@WeirdScienceComics]

people steps out of the shower and MJ is in bed saying "you hit the jackpot tiger" - i am all in

[@assassinsknight]

Ben Reilly will either die or go back to being Scarlet Spider Paul will die or disappear Nothing from his run will ever be talked about again. Rekrap will go the way of Spidercide, and MJ is going to lose those powers at some point and again this will never be talked about it after.

[@ChrisP58]

@@assassinsknight ur comment was more entertaining than 60 issues of Zeb Wells run. And you said Spidercide(guilty pleasure) so u get bonus points. lol

[@ChrisP58]

@@WeirdScienceComics perfection!

[@illuminatihuman6983]

As a Ben Reilly fan, I can only be mad at myself for having any hope at all.... if only he stayed dead.

[@geoffcole8994]

As far as im concerned Ben Reilly has been dead ,ever since he was impaled by the Goblins glider at the end of the clone saga.

[@illuminatihuman6983]

@geoffcole8994 The problem for me is that I actually enjoyed parts of the (2017) Ben Reilly: Scarlet Spider comic and liked the Beyond Spider-Man arc (specifically from after Ben actually asked for Peter's permission and started acting like Ben Reilly until the whole memory BS happened), and then in this issue when Ben said he's decided to live his own life -while the conversation and dialogue wasn't written well- it felt like a minor step in the right direction... to immediately take two steps back with Ben wanting Peter's life. I believe Chasm or an evil Ben Reilly CAN be written well, but to begin with Ben Reilly needs to be written well and sometimes it feels like some writers actually do know how to do that, but mostly whether it's the writers or editorial it just doesn't happen. This kinda all applies to all current Spider-Man characters/stories, but I don't even know why it is, but it's Ben Reilly I care about most and just would rather not see at all if I have to see him like this.

[@cphan9232]

@@geoffcole8994 that's how I treat it. The one that's been around is a clone of Ben Reilly

[@matthewschwartz6607]

@@geoffcole8994-Same here. Some characters should just STAY dead! Kraven, too .

[@joshuaingobo1559]

The first part shows Tombstone being not guilty (and thus freed from prison) and Peter (as Spider-Man) fighting Sandman and telling Aunt May why her nephew called Spider-Man for help. That’s it. The second part shows Rek-Rap being here to stay, which might result in Joe Kelly barely using him in his run of ASM. Although, I do find it hilarious that Peter has to pay three thousand dollars after helping Rek-Rap at the hospital. For the third part, I like that Peter and MJ worked together to defeat criminals; however, their going out on a double date with Paul and Shay (in which Peter is going out with Shay and MJ going out with Paul) is a “screw you” to us because we want to see Peter and MJ together. Overall, this is an okay (but weak) backup. For the fourth part, I like that Peter and Logan celebrated Logan’s birthday in a bar to talk and spend time with each other, without Logan getting hunted or attacked by Sabertooth (since Logan killed him in the Sabertooth War in his solo series). Overall, this is a nice backup. For the fifth part, I like that Peter and Ben have a chat, where Ben tells Peter that he’s not obsessed with him anymore (which is good); however, it shows him attempting to steal Peter’s life again at the end of this part, which shows that Ben is still not over it. Overall, this backup is weak. For the sixth and final part, it’s interesting that Peter was told by Doom the Sorcerer Supreme that he’s going to die eight times. Let’s hope that Joe Kelly knows what he’s doing in his ASM run. Overall, this backup is interesting. Something that I can say for this comic is that we’re finally free of the Zeb Wells run. That’s it.

[@TonyRedgrave-of9od]

Good riddance on Zeb Wells run. Marvel has no idea they're digging their graves with ASM until they become nothing but a comic book company that only limits themselves to reprint books.

[@WeirdScienceComics]

Marvel is really bad right now - I only have a couple books I even care about a little bit

[@TonyRedgrave-of9od]

@WeirdScienceComics I went back to JMS run in ASM. Reminding myself how everyone in the series were very mentally mature and I was hoping the theme would evolve on its own until certain people mixed their real problems up with fiction and use alternate earths as excuses such as the movies, games and Ultimate Spider-Man to get away from the heat they caused. If they want to keep things afloat, they need to take notes from DC and learn why heroes like Superman and Wally West are married and have families and don't have anything nor anyone to hold them back from being inspirational. On the contrary, they encourage readers on how to keep a relationship healthy and be more responsible after tying up the knot. As for Nick Lowe and the other higher-ups, I'd like to politely say that a man who has a phobia of marriage is a boy and will always stay a boy - or worse, is diagnosed with Peter Pan syndrome.

[@garthwhitely9012]

This is extremely frustrating, Wells is a lame ass writer that has no excitement, love, or enthusiasm for Spider-Man and it absolutely shows how little he knows and cares for the character. This whole Peter and MJ will they won’t they thing is turning readers off and away. Knowing that Marvel won’t get them back together and still dangling the idea over the people who still want them back together is hurting their interest. Either let them be together or let them walk away from each other, because this in between shit is ass

[@WeirdScienceComics]

@@garthwhitely9012 at least show some real emotions about the breakup - everyone is so damn happy

[@joshjones9749]

I really think of this version of the character since OMD as diet Spider-Man. He lost alot more as a character than just MJ...

[@TevyaSmolka]

Yeah this entire story was just bad and frankly gave us nothing to resolve anything which is just garbage and big slap In the face for us Spider-Man fans, and to make it ten times worse we are still trapped with the same garbage we have now which sucks, and just proves my point more and more that Marvel just doesn’t give a damn about us Spider-Man fans who want peter Parker Spider-Man and Mary Jane to be married and they have there daughter mayday Parker spider girl alive and kicking in the mainstream marvel universe. Which is just isn’t fair because other media like Spider-Man ps4 Spider-Man miles morales and Spider-Man 2 for the ps5 and of course Spiderverse movies let Peter Parker Spider-Man and Mary Jane be married and have there daughter mayday Parker the future spidergirl alive and kicking, while the comics on the other hand are hellbent of not allowing Peter Parker Spider-Man grow up which is just sad and depressing in my opinion.

[@mayotango1317]

Just a waste of time, worst that bad.

[@BoudewijnPiet]

All the things i want to say.. i won't say because people will take offence. I'm going to take a hiatus from Asm, because it all agrevates me to no end. Nothing this whole run has been nothing but building a bigger divide between Peter and Maryjane so the next Spencer that comes along has to do a whole lot of repairing I think i might actually be done with asm alltogheter. It left me sad. And i don't think the book will improve.. Thanks Zeb and Lowe.

[@matthewschwartz6607]

The whole Ned Leeds/Hobgoblin story was never resolved either. Why DID they bring Ned back to life anyway?

[@VeranProwlerthestormtrooper]

Zeb Wells Amazing Spider-Man (2022) are trash and garbage Them are wasted potential big time!

[@edg4441]

Great review and video, Jim. This run was complete and utter trash, and It's not going to get any better from the Nick Lowe appearance at the Comic Com. It seems from his discussion and a panel he previewed, it looks like Felicia and Peter together kissing might mean Kelly and Ireland are bringing her back to be Peter's love interest. If that's the case, I'm all for it because Marvel isn't going to bring Peter and MJ back together. It's 17 years and counting and doesn't seem like that's going to happen. As I've stated in numerous previous comments, if Marvel isn't going to pair up Peter and MJ, then it's time for Felicia to become his love interest not Shay, Michelle the lawyer, or some other irrelevant love interest. I'm dome with "ASM", I just hope "USM" stays the course, and hopefully gets more interesting. Regarding the Phillies, they need a complete overhaul, and it was a mistake extending Thomson's contract. However, Philly Sports Teams always reward failure. That's why the Phillies are the losingest franchise in all of the major sports and that's the reason the team only has 2 championships over 142 seasons. It's a joke!

[@WeirdScienceComics]

@@edg4441 i was hoping for the Phillies… but knew they were going nowhere and thomson’s extension was a huge mistake

[@DeadpoolNegative]

@@WeirdScienceComicsbeing a Phillies fan or a Modern Spider-Man fan- what’s worse?

[@88playmkr]

I really doubt writers have much agency when it comes to ASM

[@redstonemecha7716]

Finally after all these years the nightmare was over, the Zeb Wells run was finally done. I honestly hope the next writer could fix what Zeb did wrong, like get back Peter and MJ together.

[@WeirdScienceComics]

Joe Kelly is not doing that

[@trevthegoat12]

I'm looking forward to reading Joe Kelly's run because I grew up on the Ben 10 cartoon so I'm excited and he also wrote it

[@WeirdScienceComics]

@@trevthegoat12 i am a bit worried - the issues he wrote during this run were really bad and i didn’t like his recent no -stop or savage spider-man minis - but i am giving it a chance to impress me!

[@jfugate1]

My favorite part of this run was the very last page of this issue when Wells run ended. Also, there’s no debate: New York Pizza > Chicago Pizza.

[@RoyandLukestudios]

when will you get the marvel podcast out?

[@WeirdScienceComics]

@@RoyandLukestudios we didn’t record a show last week - we just did the two videos because Matt was in Vegas when we usually record - this weeks show will be up the next couple of days

[@batmanschesthairs8989]

Hey Jim I hope you good, just wanted to ask are ready for the new writers on ASM because I keep hearing the same names from different sources and it's terrifying lol they can't be serious right.

[@WeirdScienceComics]

if you mean after Joe Kelly's story then yea, the names i hear (rhymes with Danzig & Smelly) or Justina Ireland full time are really scary!

[@batmanschesthairs8989]

@@WeirdScienceComics 😂 Yeah, seems like they are trying to play limbo with ASM sales to see how low they can go.

[@WeirdScienceComics]

@ taking advantage of very loyal fans!

[@bgvo4373]

I think Wells was the fall guy for what ended up being an editorial undoing of all of Peter’s progress. He also probably got caught up writing Deadpool/Wolverine. Either way, this whole run sucked.

[@WeirdScienceComics]

I agree but you still have to do something for 60 issues that is somewhat good even if it’s just for your own pride

[@Bar-Lord]

Now take the entire run and multiple half by 4 and the other by 5, add, and see how much money was spent on the run. That’s the real horror of this Halloween season.

[@DrDetfink]

I also blame editorial incompetence. Just can’t help wondering, “What exactly was said in the war room which made Zeb Wells plot out a 60 issue friend zone story arc?”. After sixty issues of Peter and “Lonny” aka Tombstone going at it, I just wanted to scream, “KISS HIM!” (Note sarcasm) Peter spent more time with Lonny than MJ over approximately sixty issues. Did the grand story elevate Tombstone into a Green Goblin or Doc Ock class arch nemesis? No. After sixty issues, Tombstone is still at par with the Puma (during the Black suit days) as an antagonist to Spider-man. I think this run could have worked if it was anyone else but Peter as the main protagonist. Then Zeb Wells would have had a clear field to play. As it stands, this is the most expensive forgettable run on Spider-man which will collect dust as a trade because it goes absolutely nowhere.

[@popeye697]

Chicago has the best pizza and deep dish is just a tourist attraction. Real Chicago pizza is actually thin crust.

[@WeirdScienceComics]

New York Pizza >>>>>>>>>>>>>Chicago Pizza (and don't get me started on those damn hot dogs! LOL

[@genericavatar5785]

Shay in the panel will age like milk.

[@jaynunya5136]

they should put Tom Taylor on Amazing Spider-man

[@WeirdScienceComics]

i think he is still DC Exclusive. (I did not like his Friendly Neighborhood Spider-man run)

[@GeorgeRenda]

Jim, did you read Redcoat #7? Bring tissues

[@WeirdScienceComics]

i did - it was sad ( i kinda wanted to see more adventures with einstein!)

[@GeorgeRenda]

they could always go back and tell more stories with him. The way they talked in this issue implies they had a ongoing friendship

[@WeirdScienceComics]

@@GeorgeRenda i don’t lnow - they hadn’t seen each other in a long while - but jason fabok hinted that there could be one-shots in rook and redcoat coming up

[@koomer1459]

I haven’t read a single issue of Zeb’s reign of terror but have been completely entertained by the hundreds of KZbin videos complaining about this disaster.

[@WeirdScienceComics]

@@koomer1459 so many videos!

[@mikem288]

I find this review to be overly positive. It feels like you're grasping to find anything good to say when there is nothing of the sort. There is no redeeming this run, the choices made within the run, the way that it ended, etc. In 60 issues our developments to the character(s) are: MJ is fickle and betrayed Peter (Erasing decades of built-up continuity), Peter is a cuck, and Ms Marvel died for a few minutes. Poorly plotted, depicted, executed... you name it. This issue, as a stand-alone, is a double down on the bad decisions writ large, and literally lacks any real excitement or value, unless people wanted to pay 8 bucks for filler and a preview for the next storyline.

[@crosshair9907]

It's finally over. Hopefully that Doctor Doom influence in the next run will lead to some interesting stories.

[@fiacco3000]

Interesting? With Joe Kelly writing? Not a chance bro...

[@badfoody]

Too little too late

[@doyscherr]

Where is Kamala Khan, now end of 2024?

[@WeirdScienceComics]

she is in NYX