Amazon or 3M? Made in USA 3M Roloc Bristle Discs vs Amazon Competitor [Best Surfacer]

Will the 3M Roloc Bristle Discs be worth the difference in price compared to the bristle discs made in China found on Amazon?
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[@sixtyfiveford]

I no longer even shop around for sand paper, cut off discs, abrasive discs etc. If it says 3M/cubitron I bite the bullet and buy it. They just work so much better and longer.

[@MrTheHillfolk]

As I'm nearing the end of a car build, I gotta say I'm a big fan of 3m. If there products don't work right ,you're doing it wrong or using the wrong materials. Sure it's pricey, but I can only afford to do this once. Might not be a fan of all the toxic crap that's left over from their chemical production , but their products just flat work.

[@tonyfnd]

I use the 3M Cubitron or the Pferd stuff. They both just last forever and are well worth the money.

[@codyswilley]

Buy once cry once

[@DA-zi6eq]

If sixtyfiveford says it...... Stamp it, send it and just buy it😅😅 👍👍👍

[@alexhise968]

3M, Pferd, and Norton is all I get.

[@phillhuddleston9445]

A 5 minute video spread out over 23 minutes! 3M for the win for anyone who doesn't have time to kill.

[@pgmurray76]

SHOCKER!! hahahaa sorry

[@codyswilley]

10:00 is when he first starts using them. Your welcome

[@davidfarmer]

bro, that's not cavitation, if anything its chatter. cavitation is when gas bubbles form in liquid because of change of pressure. Definitely going way too high on the rpm, the bristles shouldn't be flaring out like that.

[@GTRliffe]

i always pay extra and buy the better one. not just the quality but more self pride and class is attached when quoting work. Getting paid allot when skimping on quality slowly degrades your self worth. you end up feeling wrong and the client can hear uncertainty in your tone. paying extra usually improves your memory too, you don’t missplace as much

[@Anonymous..VQ3.5Lg35]

I use the Milwaukee right angle with those disks at low speeds, work great, less cavitation, the green is amazing at what it will take off!

[@Anonymous..VQ3.5Lg35]

And the brush doesn’t fan out

[@robotlegs]

I have never been so heart-poundingly excited about something so mundane. Just saw you uploaded this video after commenting on your short.

[@bobfarley4102]

Get a life.

[@melgross]

I haven’t used the cheaper ones, but the 3M is really good, and lasts. The Amazon green copy has parts of the bristles coming off on the second test. With the permanent (it looks) splaying and the breaking off of the bristles, it doesn’t seem like much of a bargain. I don’t see a reason to stop using 3M. Often there’s a reason why something costs more and it’s not because of the brand name, it’s because of the quality. It’s usually because of the quality as to why a company becomes a brand name in the first place.

[@jkohutiak]

this video makes me appreciate the original so much more.

[@strykerentllc]

Stuff like this really puts things in perspective when it comes to 'bang for your buck'. Thanks for doing the comparison and everybody can agree that 3M Roloc Bristle Disc juice is definitely worth the squeeze. The 3M Radial Bristle Discs designed for pedestal grinders / polishers definitely are as well, albeit the prices are eye watering.

[@glennjames7107]

Bristle discs have been around well over a decade. I remember using them regularly well over twenty years ago, roloc bristle discs. We used them for buffing of aircraft skins for corrosion removal, and preparation for repainting. They worked great on thin, delicate aluminum, but there are far better methods for cleaning things that are harder and heavier.

[@billseivers3528]

I was using the bristle discs at Boeing in the late 90's.

[@jrlaymance]

Yes, there are more efficient buff discs, there's a correct tool for every job, but when working on engines, the bristle prevents abrasive contaminants from the disc from entering the engine. The aluminum oxide rolocs are the worst thing you can use on an engine

[@omnipressant]

​@@billseivers3528 I was using them in the 90's as well in my boces auto mech classes. 😊

[@cpftank09]

Bristle discs work much better at slower speeds, especially on sealing surfaces to keep it flat. I think it’d be worth doing another video at a slower speed. It extends the life of the bristles and is a lot easier to control. I use them with my compact, low power Mac die grinder and barely even squeeze the trigger. I’ve only used the 3M ones, so I can’t comment on the Chineseium ones.

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

18:45 Did yours came with instructions?

[@cpftank09]

@@Eduardo_Espinoza the bristle discs? No, they don’t come with instructions. But just like with any tool you use often, you learn how it operates best. The less fanning of the bristles, the better. Use minimal downward force. Basically you want the tips to contact the surface and let it do the work. Especially while using the white disc on aluminum like oil plan or timing cover sealing surfaces.

[@arnoldsmith4612]

3M products like Roto loc 2in or 3in buffing pads or bristle pads is the only stuff I use.

[@ObservationofLimits]

Back in the foundry, the bristle discs we got actually had heavy sleeves on them to keep the bristles from splaying out. But they weren't roloc, they were hard mounted to a 1/8" shaft. Also the discs were only about 1" diameter and didn't look plasticky like these.

[@PedroPlckle]

Most high quality stuff with US and European companies is made in China. But it's the licence that counts. 3M factory is in China.

[@1MiketheMechanic]

The 3M Roloc Bristle Discs were created over 25 years ago at the peak of GM 4.3L and 3.1L intake gasket failures in the mid to late 90's. Not sure if they were created specifically for that application but a TSB does state the exclusive use of the Bristle Discs instead of the Scotch-Brite Discs if my memory is correct. The Scotch-Brite material was getting into the engine and destroying the crankshaft and bearings.

[@boosted2.4_sky]

If I can find 3M and it's reasonable I will always grab those... but sometimes there are things where I just need to use it once or twice and I'm not paying $86 for it... Depends on what I'm doing... These bristle disks are great though There isn't much of a price difference in this particular product but that's not always the case....

[@russellpottenger8584]

Great review and good timing. 52% off at $12.00 for the 3M green. Amazon prime for the win. 👊🏻

[@hilomx6]

where did ya find that deal

[@solarguy6043]

Great comparison shootout!! 3M makes an excellent product. Some of the import abbrasives are good, some are not. Cavitation does not mean what you think it means.

[@NRP1991]

I really appreciate this video. I have always wondered if the cheaper ones were worth it or not. I’m sure they have their place 🤔. Great video

[@1stWorldProblemsSolved]

ya in a trash bin

[@MrTheHillfolk]

​@@1stWorldProblemsSolved yep ,time vs money. The cheap stuff has you futzing with it wasting time or replacing it more often (also taking time) so for a little more money ,why not basically purchase less headaches✌️

[@wayned3137]

I’ve been using made in China nylon ones for over well over 10 yrs and they worked amazingly.

[@Justin-C]

Why are you going so fast, especially on such harsh corners and sensitive surfaces? Those speeds needlessly beat up both bristle discs and the work surface. The amazon one was pretty clearly outclassed at high speed the moment you went full bore (which might make the 3M one better at high speed removal), but that doesn't mean it won't work great to slap on a drill to knock some rust off for maintenance/welding/restoration. Too bad 3M doesn't sell inexpensive 3 packs (1 of each)

[@courier11sec]

I'm curious if the cheap ones have a lower intended rpm for use or if they just don't use as resilient materials as 3m does. Sometimes it pays to buy the more expensive consumables, but it doesn't matter how good a tool is if it's designed for one use case and uses for another.

[@hosocat1410]

So the policy in 3M marketing department is to make it inconvenient and confusing to purchase their product. Did they hire the folks from over at budlight marketing?

[@stco2426]

Nice comparison and good video. Useful and quite consistent comments here on the quality, too. I've not seen these bristle brushes before and I'll be getting some. I've been impressed with some none 3M Roloc flap disks and Scotchbrite-equivalent hard-ish pads. Not experienced the grabbing on the flap and pads I have but I understand the bristle brushes you have here are not really useable as they seem to grab and overheat and aren't stiff enough. Roloc rocks! I was also impressed with the angle tool. I use air for this application and it's expensive to run compared to battery equivalents. I need to find an equivalent that's equally compact and controlable. That red thing seems good!!

[@sheerwillsurvival2064]

That’s all I needed to see glad i bought 3m

[@matthewpeterson3329]

This video shows my findings as well. The 3M bristle discs are best. However, if you are using scotchbrite or sanding discs, the Amazon or Harbor Freight discs work nearly as well for a huge savings. I bought a fake roll lock kit on Amazon with a slew of scotchbright style discs and two spindles for cheap. The I found that the larger 3" and 4" scotch discs from HF fit perfectly on the cheapo roll lock spindle and then really work well.

[@jruppert1975]

This video saved me from purchasing the Amazon version. Thank you so much.

[@InchFab]

Where are the purple 3M 36 grit "body man's brush" in this test. It's the best of the best.

[@jrlaymance]

I have a green and a white 3m bristle discs, spent 10 bucks each over 3 years ago, I'm an auto tech, so yes, they get used and are still a long ways from wearing out

[@enragedplantera5585]

Can you test flap wheels and non woven pads

[@annettesurfer]

I use those 3M green bristle discs gently. Too fast and those bristles are forced outward. It doesn’t take much to get the job done. I switched years ago to using a green 3M bristle disc on engine mating surfaces such as a cylinder head or the block since I’ve read about Scotch-Brite Roloc disc particles causing internal engine damage. Actually they called ‘em “surface conditioning disks” but there are plenty of other surfaces I can use Rolocs without causing issues. On a similar subject, just before the pandemic, I bought a box of each color of Scotch-brite hand pads and can’t help but wonder if counterfeiters managed to perfectly fake those 3M products since the box labeling was perfect but the printing on the individual pads were barely legible, and I noticed a difference in texture. I’m not sure what happened to the easy-tear perforations but they were non-existent. Maybe 3M just made some changes.

[@IppiopaidFEEDBACK]

Another excellent review! I think I would purchase both, purchased a cheaper ones because they’re not expensive, but purchased the 3M ones for when I really need performance.

[@NTSRFR4]

I can't believe that I have never seen these disks before.

[@CoreysZ32]

Thanks, I definitely had the same amazon ones as you and experienced the same level of low quality. This convinced me to only use them on junk parts for fun and use 3m where it matters.. and to lower the speed even more

[@MrSpinteractive]

Pretty clear to me which brand I'll be buying next. Thanks for the video!

[@ljprep6250]

Happily gushing about the 3M while dissing the cheapies. Well, I guess that's expected. Anything which can make the job easier certainly grabs your affection. I saw how quickly the Chiwanese discs were breaking down quite quickly. 3M sure looks like the easy winner there. Now show us some Pferd victograin grinding discs for the angle grinder. They're absolutely astounding, too.

[@MistakenMedia087]

Are the Amazon ones rated for that high of a speed? It looks like your over spinning them.

[@michaelblacktree]

Yeah, it looks like they're meant for a lower speed.

[@jaronvaughn4520]

I would pay more just for the control over the tool. That cavitation and catching the edge would make for some colorful language for sure..thanks

[@Prevailingbucket]

Why are we even considering anything from China? Why????

[@tylerfraker7716]

Thank you so much for the die grinder collet holder wrench hack. First thing tomorrow I’m putting one in the vise and bending her over. That will solve many headaches haha

[@marshallcollins8634]

@ Tyler fraker Haha that's usually what starts many of my headaches.

[@2nickles647]

I've been using 3m over the years. 👍

[@Anonymous..VQ3.5Lg35]

I used the green one and loved it!

[@randallrun]

Green WHICH one??

[@Anonymous..VQ3.5Lg35]

@@randallrun 3m

[@rockharvey5787]

Wow really glad I watched this before I ordered those Amazon ones. Great video!

[@Shoptoolreviews]

Glad I could help! Thanks for watching.

[@zanderesp4295]

Neat bit for removing rust off your tools.

[@R2_D3]

I first bought a ''fake'' one, it was tearing itself apart without even touching the workpiece... even at low RPMs... Then I bought a bunch of 3M's, they are way better! But the 20k or 25k RPM is not advised, it will self-destruct!! The bristles will come flying of!! Other than that, they are great!! It's a great addition to the tools used in the Milwaukee (love the 90degr and straight grinders)

[@GTRliffe]

this is perfect for prepping ally joints before tig welding

[@fltchr4449]

I've done some research. The bristles really don't like edges. But I also haven't found an abrasive that does other than sandblasting. And I don't like sandblasting. It's a circular relationship.

[@andrewscott8892]

Think about the efficiency you're losing with the cheap one, all the repositioning and effort to keep it from flying off to the side, now add it up throughout the day times that by the work week then times that by how many weeks of the year... It truly does add up

[@Shoptoolreviews]

You're exactly right. That's why we put this together. Time is money. Thanks for watching.

[@andrewscott8892]

@@Shoptoolreviews thank you for the video. Maybe one day you can do a video comparing some Walter abrasive products

[@yabman1317]

Good info but what you were calling cavitation is simply bouncing. Cavitation is an effect always associated with movement of fluids (think air bubbles in water supply and going through an impeller of a pump. This could cause cavitation.)

[@bryancunningham1095]

The Amazon special is cutting more aggressive because if you notice the filaments fingers are laying down and there is more ceramic abrasive making contact with surface, but the reason its laying down is because the material is not as stiff or long lasting this is also causing it to grab. I'll bet it doesn't last anyways near as long as the 3M disc, I would be afraid that the fingers on the Amazon brand might even fly off, after a short time the Amazon brand looks like your using a mop. Go with the 3M if your more serious about getting a good job and longevity with your abrasive than with the price.

[@Nanan00]

I had good luck with the cheap amazon roloc discs and scotch bright pads for prepping my engine for my jeep's LS swap. I didn't have any of that fanning out or smearing like you are getting, guess different vendors have different quality.

[@Anonymous..VQ3.5Lg35]

I use them at lower speed, they dont fan out, and do a good job!

[@mikemikeyee]

Great comparison video, a follow up with low speeds would be cool to see. Or a short?

[@hvguy]

I made this same mistake on Amazon. Bought the cheap version of the white bristle discs and they were basically plastic bristles with no ceramic. The just melted and flew everywhere 😂 absolutely junk

[@georgef1176]

eBay is the place people sell overstock bulk of 3m and China that will not be used but have defects open packs etc.

[@nobodynoone2500]

Generally avoid Amazon branded anything, noname word salad chinese products, and enjoy your superior tools.

[@MrTheHillfolk]

When i see "almost as good " as 3m, ill watch. Havent seen it come true yet,though.

[@Shoptoolreviews]

We'll let you know when we find them.

[@truckgotstuck]

Too many issues. You are using a full length new disc vs a shorter length used disc. This could be the difference between the bristle length on a narrow surface, it isn't something that can be put towards the 3M being better to control than the Amazon. If you are going to do a comparison, please compare new to new and used to used. And cavitation? That doesn't even make sense! Cavitation is a term for when air pockets develop in a water pump. It's not cavitating, it's hopping and chattering. On the cylinder head, you are using different contact points on the discs. If you are putting the bristles into an edge, they will all chatter and grab. If yo put them over an edge, they won't grab. Your testing method is just not consistent enough to establish the true differences.

[@williamdavis922]

I've been using the 3M discs for years, and would never use the cheaper ones, you get what you pay for!!

[@1pcfred]

According to some in the comments there's different cheap ones and some's better than others are.

[@alexisgalarza202]

I learned something new today, wish was 5 years ago

[@marenghi123]

So the yellow 80 grit os no different to using sandpaper for the same finsh for painting?

[@alirazmjou2149]

Thank you so much for this video متشکرم از شما

[@imnottheonlyone9171]

I know this is about the bristle disc's but how do you like and would you recommend that Milwaukee angle die grinder and do you happen to have the straight also and what are your thoughts on that also. Have been thinking about getting them for awhile but you know $$ is tight and don't wanna throw any away, Thanks for any reply on them from anyone using them

[@joeh.3135]

These have always been best for removing decals , and personally don't ask for them ever .

[@mutationbuilder3446]

And all reputable rotary tools have the safety collet

[@oldschooltunervw]

Chatter, not cavitation. Great review

[@alexdowiatt224]

Military has been using this for decades. To remove paint and corrosion

[@Anonymous..VQ3.5Lg35]

Yay a video i wanted forsure!

[@SuperBigNye]

do you ever have issues with your Milwaukee cutting out after a few seconds of using it. mine always does and its so annoying

[@magpiemarc1962]

Here in Europe they horrendously expensive the discs are 50€ each and the holders 70€.

[@avidanhendler698]

does dewalt have a tool like this? this is look a die grinder in driil . very nice tool

[@Jackdelfranco68]

Nice job, thanks for sharing.

[@jorgezuni2818]

Great video . Good points

[@bernic62]

for stripping wood is good?

[@robertkeime4907]

You caught the edge of steel much more with the non 3m. It’s hard to tell if you were doing this or the the non 3m disk was doing it. To me … it look like it was more you. You did not seem to work the edge with the 3m as you did the non 3m.

[@jd3497]

The lesson, pay less, get less, sometimes a whole lot less.

[@douglasthompson2740]

Interesting. Must be using "new math" as he keeps repeating that $4.50 is half of $12.00. I am wondering if using a slower rotational speed would improve the performance of the cheaper ones? I know on an angle grinder if you rev it up you can melt down the plastic 3M style of scotchbrite discs. Using it on a variable speed grinder allows them to perform better and last much much longer. So most angle grinders are in the 12K rpm range and if that melts the plastic then rating them for 25K rpm is going to be a very long stretch and shorten their life considerably.

[@MotorCityMetalArt]

Amazon ones are way to soft especially for higher speeds

[@walijumaat2158]

what are those red canister that you use to clean the marker on the table 8:06 ? whrre can i get that canister?

[@chung5star]

Seem like it just copy the look instead of ceramic abrasive, without cooling and hardening function it's just rubber to metal and should leave lot of residue due to heat, which is a No No to me!

[@tonydaniels3093]

They’ve been around since late 90’s

[@mikejohnson9118]

Actual demo starts ~ 9:45. Cheers

[@drew5992]

Thanks

[@zamplify]

Whistle biscuit battle.

[@AceMon2005]

It's almost like you get what you pay for.

[@ranger178]

we are at war with China so any time i can i buy American made to avoid supporting our enemy id rather get things made anywhere other than China

[@1pcfred]

We're at war and we're losing badly too.

[@davem4423]

Thanks for this, defo a case of buy cheap buy twice, the main reason 3m stuff is 'expensive' (a relative point) is research & development, which can be seen in the results , these chinese knock offs damage REAL companies by selling this junk that is sometimes dangerous to use especially at 20,000+ rpm steer clear of that crap....just my opinion obviously , great vid thanks again .

[@Matt-pb9mv]

I like the way you say bristle discs. Now say that 3 times fast 😂

[@cobuck4007]

Very helpful

[@hightttech]

3M for the WIN.

[@DavidWeinberg-cm9xd]

Even the Roloc 1" thru 3" adapters from 3M have outperformed China junk in all my years of working on equipment? I have a special box, that gets all the subpar tools, that can actually be dangerous to use, like cheap wire wheels? Not worth loosing an eye on a cheap adapter?

[@leifnilsen6107]

Don't buy the China disc. The metal stem broke off in my Milwaukee M12 1/4 drive impact driver. What a pain to get out. I bought a new driver until I can get the broken stem out of my old driver.

[@pjevans1830]

Hell I haven't ever even seen these.

[@knocksensor3203]

3M makes good quality products.. and I am not paid by them..☺️

[@RonEvers]

You get what you pay for here. But really $6-$12 is not that much for better product that lasts years.

[@philliphall5198]

3m are the best but they cost more and last nearly a year or two The China doesn’t last a month

[@snoopyfix2]

I like the Amazon brand brushes more, because i like things that suck.

[@immanutt4442]

Project Farm for Bristle Disks ... oops - I almost said whistle ... disks

[@42105]

Whats that spay-can at 08:05 ?

[@Shoptoolreviews]

Pressurized spray can full of brake cleaner.

[@42105]

@@Shoptoolreviews thank you for your response, wasn't finding something similar here in Europe

[@scottc3165]

Better use that Roloc on the crappy Amazon side.

[@llwocowtown]

I've tried both and wasn't impressed. Found them a waste of money.

[@gunnerneikoify]

3M products are top-notch, but so are their prices. I'm the tool crib manager at our plant, and we were going through (on avg) $20,000 worth of these each month, and we were buying them in bulk boxes (cheaper in bulk) of 50 per box. Management caught wind of this and said "no more" on this shit. Left it up to me to find a cheaper alternative. That being said, through one of our supply vendors, I was able to find an alternative that in appearance and function/performance and longevity was identical to the 3M, and get this, at 1/3 the price!!! They even worked perfectly with the 3M twist lock adapter backing plate.

[@1rael00]

Well Tom that was interesting but you didn't seem to inclined to share any information of real value. Perhaps a brand name so the rest of us can search for a seller. TY

[@gunnerneikoify]

@Hank Harris No information of real value? So letting EVERYONE know that there is actually certain items out there that are just as good in EVERY way as 3M products, but at about 1/3 the cost, is of no value??? Well, OK then, so be it. No skin off my back, I could care less if other people prefer to pay insane prices for some of 3Ms products or not. Good day.

[@1rael00]

@@gunnerneikoify Your original story finished off letting us know you had info on other manufactures, suppliers that had products that were much less costly and similar to the 3m product but you didn't share that information with us. That was the point I was making. You left us all hanging and wondering why aren't you sharing what you know. My comment was two sentences long for Pete's sake! Did you not even understand or read it. There was no insult Just my bringing it to your attention to finish off what you started. You reacted as if you were demeaned in some manner. Finish off your original comment and share your knowledge with all of the rest of us. Thank You, Have a Blessed week end

[@1pcfred]

@@1rael00 the information is proprietary. If he divulges it then he gives his competition the advantage of being able to sponge off his research. He's telling you the answer is out there and go look for it yourself. Which may not be what you're looking for but it is not nothing.

[@ronberry5316]

Cheap Amazon China was a waste of my money. 3M is 1000 times better.

[@bat__bat]

12:05 😂😂 that gyroscopic effect is so mean to humans. For a spinning object, you gotta push in the direction 90 degrees from where the tool previously came from. 🤔 Example: Tool is spinning clockwise, you gotta push upward to move right, downward to move left. Moving left will push the tool up. And so forth. 👨‍🔧💡

[@georgecurtis6463]

Dude, you on purpose making the amazon stuff not look good by the way you are holding the grinder . It's rather obvious. 3m may be great for production folks. But for folks that use them occasionally, the 3m is just waaay overpriced. For me I will buy neither.