Amazon vs. Alibaba: The Race to Dominate Fast Global Shipping | WSJ

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@UrAshWhole
@UrAshWhole 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny because the majority of Amazon's 3rd party sellers (FBA sellers) sourced their products from Alibaba.
@bugsy791
@bugsy791 3 жыл бұрын
They resell it at multiple times the price
@hipstajohnyy2033
@hipstajohnyy2033 3 жыл бұрын
yes i do fba and alibaba stock is bought in bulk, is wholesale!
@jackytang3683
@jackytang3683 3 жыл бұрын
Air and sea freight forwarder in China, ddu,ddp
@nakanomiku7718
@nakanomiku7718 3 жыл бұрын
@betsibest
@betsibest 3 жыл бұрын
@@verreal maybe you should stop wearing underwears as they are all made in china.
@KirkBuchanan
@KirkBuchanan 3 жыл бұрын
72 hours shipping globally would be game changing. 🤞🏾
@Wongseifu548
@Wongseifu548 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad this will never happen as long as they have a gun pressed to their heads
@oceanwave4502
@oceanwave4502 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Apple supply chain, which moved to Vietnam and India during the pandemic, is now returning to China. Relying on China is increasingly turning out to be a bless, rather than a risk.
@ArthursHD
@ArthursHD 3 жыл бұрын
Yet speed is not everything! I would rather see slower but using fewer resources. If Could place an order from bulk and set what price I'm willing to pay for an Item till x date, or multiple items at a lower price. If could rather choose a sustainable shipping option I would do so. Unfortunately, we haven't built a uniform high capacity, efficient electric railway system all across Eurasia and Africa. That would be a pretty cool 100-year utopian plan :). No retail packaging, descriptions are on the websites anyway, no need for printed manuals if not requested for an extra cost. Reusable and actually reused for its primary purpose, lightweight, durable packaging could help reduce necessary shipping volume and weight. Products themselves should be sustainable.
@yeodi9466
@yeodi9466 3 жыл бұрын
With Starship SpaceX could probably do that in about 2 hours. Around 30 minutes of flight and then delivery to your door.
@tushararora443
@tushararora443 3 жыл бұрын
@@oceanwave4502 source?
@ttw06090
@ttw06090 3 жыл бұрын
It's a great thing to have competitions in such sector
@pshindigamingmobilegamer2609
@pshindigamingmobilegamer2609 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexAlcyone agree
@pieman-yp7mp
@pieman-yp7mp 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexAlcyone poor bezos is getting bullied by china
@iota5722
@iota5722 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexAlcyone he will liquidate it over time.....as Alibaba reaches the potential he will invest that in his space company in the name of building it. Even bill did that to Microsoft.
@harshjain3122
@harshjain3122 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexAlcyone honestly. People would like a monopoly in this sector. It's like induced monopoly. One good example is, wouldn't we all love all of our fab streams on same streaming service? Yeah exactly. Secondly, it's a fight between two private giants, one however...backed by it's host govt totally. So you should already know where this will go.
@iota5722
@iota5722 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexAlcyone bro thats not for me to decide, all ex nasa people work at space x.....for sure he will not be successful compared to space x in coming decade or two but all it takes is one Innovation and u will have it. He would have spent that money anyway he wanted and we will never be able to do anything about it. Lets be spectators and not the jury. Cause we are not at the end of the judgement.
@TommyShlong
@TommyShlong 3 жыл бұрын
If Alibaba can offer 72 hr shipping for a small annual fee, remove counterfeit products from its site and offer free/low cost returns, that would crush Amazon
@grahamstevenson1740
@grahamstevenson1740 3 жыл бұрын
Remove counterfeit items ?? You jest surely ?
@notarussianbot1701
@notarussianbot1701 3 жыл бұрын
@@grahamstevenson1740 Even amazon is full of counterfeit items...
@RektalReptil
@RektalReptil 2 жыл бұрын
No it wouldn’t
@BangFamilyvideo
@BangFamilyvideo 2 жыл бұрын
people shop at amazon, not alibaba. not crushin in 1million years
@Kemet3.0
@Kemet3.0 2 жыл бұрын
Now a year later... Alibaba: Revenue growth goes negative for the first time, and net profit halved. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2fapH6fnNuZqck
@mattiauk
@mattiauk 3 жыл бұрын
In Greece it's pointless, the package gets in Greece in 1 week, then is in customs for months :(
@aakashsahani2991
@aakashsahani2991 3 жыл бұрын
-laughs- cries in Indian, they straight up banned Alibaba,customs holds off the imports from China from few weeks upto few years even if the item arrives within 24hrs(sadly,not a joke), sometimes they confesticate the item and if we realy need to take the item, there are duty fee that sometimes go upto 200-300% for some items. Small businesses got fricked with this dicc joke
@google_was_my_idea
@google_was_my_idea 3 жыл бұрын
@@aakashsahani2991 Exactly, India is in the same boat, kuch order nahi kar sakte....
@samuraijosh1595
@samuraijosh1595 3 жыл бұрын
@@google_was_my_idea We first have to kick the current union government out.
@iota5722
@iota5722 3 жыл бұрын
@@samuraijosh1595 no chance of any govt bringing it back. Even if govt changes national security policies dont change.
@samuraijosh1595
@samuraijosh1595 3 жыл бұрын
@@iota5722 I mean.... wasn't it the current government that placed huge restrictions on Chinese products and IPs during the start of the previous year...?
@munza79
@munza79 3 жыл бұрын
The problem was never with the speed of shipping as most who ordered from alibaba were aware of the long wait. The issue is with the return and refund process which is close to impossible to ever get anywhere with. So if you receive a bad product from a dodgy seller (which you will) then your pretty much screwed. And that is where Amazon will have the advantage.
@boggsmalinao
@boggsmalinao 2 жыл бұрын
most people will overlook this at first…
@pinkcichlid
@pinkcichlid 2 жыл бұрын
I've reported product problems on both Amazon and Aliexpress, 100% refunded within very short time frames, none asked me to return the items. I don't think it's a problem as long as your claims are legit and can provide evidence of malfunctions etc.
@the_real_cookiez
@the_real_cookiez 2 жыл бұрын
Mmmm.....no it's most definitely the speed of shipping lol.
@user-sn9od2cy4v
@user-sn9od2cy4v 2 жыл бұрын
You can apply for a refund without returning the product. But the speed of the delivery is the biggest issue for me. Waiting for weeks or even months after paying for a product is not very satisfying experience.
@beaclaricevalencia4793
@beaclaricevalencia4793 2 жыл бұрын
It shouldn't be just how fast, should also be about the quality and authenticity guarantee of every product that they sell
@odysliu9102
@odysliu9102 2 жыл бұрын
There are 3 major eCommerce player in China. JD targets high quality and authentic guarantee market, PDD targets low quality but cheap market, Alibaba want to do both. So basically if ppl want high quality and accpet higher price, they go JD, they want low price they go PDD. For anything they don't know they go to Alibaba.
@unclehoop3554
@unclehoop3554 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I try to filter out the Chinese sellers on Amazon cuz I know their low enticing price usually comes with a catch. Nahh
@mosarila8927
@mosarila8927 3 жыл бұрын
the products from Amazon Canada are mostly from alibaba …
@gamertyper6476
@gamertyper6476 3 жыл бұрын
Everything in the US is from China, big companies and brands just buy in bulk and have it waiting here for us. Walmart, target, your local stores most of the time, etc.
@zifnab7691
@zifnab7691 3 жыл бұрын
From europe, alibaba seems to be only slightly cheaper than amazon but since stuff comes from outside of europe, we have to pay import tax which makes the products more expensive than on amazon in the end.
@tonypaca3015
@tonypaca3015 3 жыл бұрын
Kind hard they need to control inflation
@jasmina.8473
@jasmina.8473 3 жыл бұрын
I don't agree! Amazon is always 2-3 times more expensive. But it is a seller using dropshipping so you get the same product in the end. Amazon is only better for returns, but that is the reason why a 3 dollar pack of sewing needles from aliexpress cost 9 dollars on Amazon - greetings from Germany
@benho1237
@benho1237 3 жыл бұрын
Amazon is the middle man, they also have direct connections to factories in China too, as you can clearly see what profits Amazon is making, and that's one of the reasons how Jeff could go to space....
@AzeemMia
@AzeemMia 3 жыл бұрын
Thats all market money
@TougeGrandTour
@TougeGrandTour 3 жыл бұрын
Amazon makes most of their money from cloud computing. Around 70% of their revenue is from cloud. Retail is a small part of their business and the margins are razor thin.
@TougeGrandTour
@TougeGrandTour 3 жыл бұрын
@@AzeemMia You are correct, the company valuation (stock) is overly inflated right now. I call it fluff money.
@IllusiveDude
@IllusiveDude 3 жыл бұрын
AWS make up most of Amazons revenue and retail makes up a small portion of their bottom line
@enixliu
@enixliu 3 жыл бұрын
You should read Amazon’s 10k before making your comment here.
@ソルト1618
@ソルト1618 3 жыл бұрын
As long as alibaba can reach the Chinese factory and merchant directly, it may be difficult for Amazon to defeat in terms of price war.
@azeezosho9459
@azeezosho9459 3 жыл бұрын
Some android phones are much better and cheaper Altman Apple phones, yet Apple is still holding their own in the market. Most of the time, people just do what they want and love
@ソルト1618
@ソルト1618 3 жыл бұрын
@@azeezosho9459 Correct. It’s also important that each company focuses on the loyalty and branding in the marketing.
@liko098
@liko098 3 жыл бұрын
If you saw the very end the most important thing for a consumer is getting what you want in time. Last thing you want is a counterfeit item. I sometimes spend just a little more to get the product I am seeking for. Amazon has been great customer service is amazing to me that is a huge win overall. Sometimes its all about quality and customer service over pricing. I will spend a little more for just that.
@mikez2779
@mikez2779 3 жыл бұрын
with or without alibaba, amazon is far from being the cheapest
@Surya-jz6te
@Surya-jz6te 3 жыл бұрын
Here in India, Amazon has dominated the e commerce industry taking over home grown companies like Flipkart and Snapdeal. 13 USD per year prime membership for one-day deliveries and other perks, so can't complain.
@encrypt3dbr0k3r
@encrypt3dbr0k3r 3 жыл бұрын
also prime video make some very nice films. I enjoy the many stories
@Claro1993
@Claro1993 3 жыл бұрын
On the flipside, Alibaba takes over the Philippines and Southeast Asia under its subsidiary, Lazada.
@monsterboomer8051
@monsterboomer8051 3 жыл бұрын
Would you like Alibaba competing to lower prices?
@younib100
@younib100 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't Wallmart purchase Flipkart to increase their online footprint and compete with Amazon??
@TheFourthWinchester
@TheFourthWinchester 3 жыл бұрын
Flipkart is way better with original items from its own selling arms compared to Amazon.
@sov19871987
@sov19871987 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to fill out my garage with useless stuff faster
@GetUnrealistic
@GetUnrealistic 3 жыл бұрын
lol same!
@itsourlife
@itsourlife 3 жыл бұрын
Hehe
@chrisjenkins9978
@chrisjenkins9978 3 жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂
@waffelo4681
@waffelo4681 3 жыл бұрын
My dad in a sentence
@sov19871987
@sov19871987 3 жыл бұрын
@@waffelo4681 you are lucky to have a dad like that
@gangyang9801
@gangyang9801 3 жыл бұрын
Most express delivery in China can cover 960 square kilometers within 24 hours, which is equivalent to the size of a Europe. And they work 7x24 hours and have a terrifying cold chain system. In China, you can buy an ice cream over 2000km away and get it in 24 hours.
@Cubannerd
@Cubannerd 3 жыл бұрын
Amazon doesn't make most of the money through their ecommerce anymore. Their AWS services are probably what is bringing in the big bucks.
@mwaleed2082
@mwaleed2082 3 жыл бұрын
Alibaba is offering its own cloud services as well now.
@VFPn96kQT
@VFPn96kQT 3 жыл бұрын
Amazon earns 50+% from store and only 12.5% from cloud
@forumvoordemocratie1940
@forumvoordemocratie1940 3 жыл бұрын
@@VFPn96kQT But look at the profits. Cloud is already biggest profit maker.
@IAmPattycakes
@IAmPattycakes 2 жыл бұрын
@@VFPn96kQT revenue and profits are two very different things. Last year Amazon lost money on their retail business. 100% of their profit was from AWS.
@bryantmissions4664
@bryantmissions4664 3 жыл бұрын
It takes a month for packages from Aliexpress to reach the Philippines.
@ZaneT531
@ZaneT531 3 жыл бұрын
They don't concentrate on third world countries.. It's fact not disrespecting ur country
@arbs3ry
@arbs3ry 3 жыл бұрын
South East Asia is not the target market of Aliexpress, Alibaba put more focus on Lazada and localization.
@waffelo4681
@waffelo4681 3 жыл бұрын
In Southeast Asia its more about Lazada or shoppee lol
@penguinpingu3807
@penguinpingu3807 3 жыл бұрын
@@waffelo4681 shoppee largest downside is the cringy ads.
@backyardaviator2920
@backyardaviator2920 3 жыл бұрын
Thats Why Lazada & Shoppee exists here at the first place,since they could take Aliexpress' Place without being a Hassle to most of its customers here(Who happensthat most of them doesnt even use Credit Cards to buy stuff here at the first place),also These Sites ships pretty fast from its longest delivery time of 1 week to its shortest one which could only take 48hours from the Time of Order
@johnnyk6906
@johnnyk6906 3 жыл бұрын
72 hours or 72 days? from my experiences, one out of 10 never arrive and there is absolutely no customer service to work with. I am staying with Amazon since they can resolve all issues ASAP such as returns.
@12vtbfx37
@12vtbfx37 3 жыл бұрын
It is a fact that 90% of Amazon's goods comes from Alibaba
@notarussianbot1701
@notarussianbot1701 3 жыл бұрын
aim higher, 99.9%
@_nom_
@_nom_ 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love this. It takes 1.5-2 months usually
@prashanthb6521
@prashanthb6521 3 жыл бұрын
One day you will lose your job to a robot and you will wait 1.5-2 months for your next gig job !
@angelgjr1999
@angelgjr1999 3 жыл бұрын
@@prashanthb6521 *years
@lalapt127
@lalapt127 3 жыл бұрын
@@prashanthb6521 nah these are nuts & bolts machines. when real actuators which can compete with humans arrive ,china will become irrelevant. in the mean time invest in basic & hard tech reasearch .
@Clarity520
@Clarity520 3 жыл бұрын
@@prashanthb6521 Humans are destined to evolve. This is only a part of the process.
@JohnNjengaCOCO
@JohnNjengaCOCO 3 жыл бұрын
a good number of goods on Amazon originally came from Aliexpress to stores in Europe or USA
@yaush_
@yaush_ 3 жыл бұрын
I'd prefer to order on Amazon though for many reasons. Including but not limited to: the item being genuine, faster delivery, free delivery, top notch support, being able to use alexa, reviews, and an incredible return experience.
@sidehop
@sidehop 3 жыл бұрын
@@yaush_ genuine? Same products at 3x-4x the cost to cover expenses...
@NetSkillNavigator
@NetSkillNavigator 2 жыл бұрын
@@yaush_ Genuine? Lol.. How naive you are.. Even that so-called genuine products you buy are still bought and made from Chinese manufacturers..
@Amalokch
@Amalokch 3 жыл бұрын
What about the new custom fee you have to pay for good imported outside of EU?
@HongWanSophia
@HongWanSophia 3 жыл бұрын
Aliexpress now includes the tax on the products when you pay. So when it gets to customs, it doesn't get stopped since you already paid for it on Aliexpress. Before it would take a package 2-3 months to get from china to Portugal, but this time, I ordered on the 26th of July and I received it today. Not even 2 weeks!!
@fineway7053
@fineway7053 3 жыл бұрын
The China question isn't how many boxes Alibaba ships, but which box Jack Ma is hiding in.
@kamsunleong6648
@kamsunleong6648 3 жыл бұрын
He's playing golf in Hainan and lying low. Good for him. No more 996 and spending some of his yuan.
@most.likely
@most.likely 3 жыл бұрын
Commumism is the virus 🦠
@godblessCL
@godblessCL 3 жыл бұрын
What is certain is that Aliexpress must improve shipping time and reliability, even provide options at least.
@sergiubarac1265
@sergiubarac1265 2 жыл бұрын
In Greece, if you order from Alibaba - you would have to pay the import taxes, therefore Amazon is usually a better choice (as long as the product is in the EU already).
@darthashpie
@darthashpie 3 жыл бұрын
Amazon prime is pretty good in India since it also gives you access to amazon's other paid services like amazon music and video
@arora6547
@arora6547 3 жыл бұрын
@LaMelo Ball hahahaahh true
@darthashpie
@darthashpie 3 жыл бұрын
@LaMelo Ball still good that you have it
@bananabear009
@bananabear009 3 жыл бұрын
The heart of the problem is counterfeit products. I just received 6 counterfeit bike chains from Aliexpress. And the price is very high, no matter how cheap the shipment is.
@personalJoke
@personalJoke 2 жыл бұрын
For me, the extremely step shipping cost has been always the issue in the first place. Then, the quantity of the products.
@阴暗埃文足够阴暗
@阴暗埃文足够阴暗 3 жыл бұрын
What you buy in the morning in China can arrive in the afternoon while in Canada you have to wait for a month...
@jperez494
@jperez494 3 жыл бұрын
I am so happy to buy alibaba stocks just this week =)
@timetodestination9538
@timetodestination9538 3 жыл бұрын
The video failed to mention the UPU, the Universal Postal Union is heavily subsiding China outbound packge. If a package from China to US cost 5 USD, the same package from US to US can cost up to 30 USD. This is the same toward lots other country including UK, FR, GE, AU, etc. That's why Aliexpress can sale cheap AND ship cheap. Aliexpress would failed very fast if shipment is not subsidize by other countries.
@grahamstevenson1740
@grahamstevenson1740 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly and subsidised 'postage' cannot both expand exponentially and continue that way for very long.
@PG-tc6os
@PG-tc6os 3 жыл бұрын
Everything looks great until the Chinese government stop the music 😂😂😂
@PG-tc6os
@PG-tc6os 3 жыл бұрын
@renkar820 yes. You got the real point. 👊👊👊 I rather keep my stocks with Amazon.
@PG-tc6os
@PG-tc6os 3 жыл бұрын
@renkar820 hahaha I heard that too. 😂😂👊
@PG-tc6os
@PG-tc6os 3 жыл бұрын
@renkar820 that is a good movie. Btw, as long as the stock goes up, it is all that matter to me
@PG-tc6os
@PG-tc6os 3 жыл бұрын
@renkar820 oh yeah!! It was done by CNBC great documentary.
@LetsLearnEconomic
@LetsLearnEconomic 3 жыл бұрын
@renkar820 china already beat America in capitalism
@xenaz8988
@xenaz8988 3 жыл бұрын
user experience in Alibaba is much much better, you can talk with sellers at any time concerning your purchasing. love it! it's more like a community rather than cold buy and sells.
@adityasingh3963
@adityasingh3963 8 ай бұрын
You haven't used Amazon if you think user experience in Alibaba is much better. Amazon's costumer service is so good that they will take loses but not disappoint any of their costumer. Once I bought a non-returnable item from Amazon but the colour was slightly off from the picture on Amazon so I tried returning it but since it was non-returnable, they refunded all the money to my bank account but didn't take the product and I got to keep it for free. That's the kind of service Amazon provides even for the non-returnable products.
@AbuSous2000PR
@AbuSous2000PR 3 жыл бұрын
i love it when companies compete like this.. keep it going guys
@jonathanschwartz4794
@jonathanschwartz4794 3 жыл бұрын
bruh its better if there were 4 or 6 companies like this but 2 is better than one
@onm7
@onm7 3 жыл бұрын
From 1st July 2021, the EU has introduced a fee for goods entering from China, of about 25 euro or so (30USD), hence this is impacting a lot on AliExpress deliveries. It's not worth anymore to buy from Europe to AliBaba given this high fee. In fact, most people were using AliExpress to buy items for few dollars with no shipping costs. Now that cannot be the case anymore.
@reneecheung6818
@reneecheung6818 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, on what ground? Is that just temporary or like permanent?
@user-qk8rt9yf9v
@user-qk8rt9yf9v 2 жыл бұрын
This is a lie. The EU just imposed a Value Added Tax (VAT) on goods bought from E-Commerce entering the EU. For small items under $22 Euro, this does not apply. The VAT is like a sales tax but it is applied every step of the way then summed up. For example, there is a factory smelting iron, VAT is applied to the cost of energy, then the iron, then the tools. It isn't a flat fee like what was stated above.
@Mr11ESSE111
@Mr11ESSE111 3 жыл бұрын
That doesn't mean nothing especially in EU when EU now taxed and charge cost of local post shipping from China more then most of package will worth !!so if you buy something for 1-10$ post&custom in EU will charge you more then your order worth
@melonheaded
@melonheaded 3 жыл бұрын
Not all EU countries are the same. In Italy, you will get custom tax only if you spend over 150 euro.
@Mr11ESSE111
@Mr11ESSE111 3 жыл бұрын
@@melonheaded now EU get regulations where every member must have tax no matter how worth are package which coming outside of EU
@marioarcega4935
@marioarcega4935 3 жыл бұрын
How can they say in 72 hours will be delivered, I am a customer for almost three years in Ali express most of the time frame delivery was two weeks from China to Canada. Sometimes if you unlucky the parcel was lost in shipment, It happen many times. If China Ali express or Alibaba want to compete in Amazon its take a decade before they can say can be delivered for 72 hours.
@prashunpcchakraborty70
@prashunpcchakraborty70 3 жыл бұрын
Amazon can't win the price game but if it can improve it's vetting (only recommend high quality products and no fakes) then it's still game on.
@jonnybegoodtonight
@jonnybegoodtonight 3 жыл бұрын
USPS is the weak link in the chain. When goods from Alibaba arrive in the US the postal service slaps another label with a different tracking number over the top of the original one. When you are trying to track several packets its a total nightmare.
@marcusd4936
@marcusd4936 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine drones flying all over your city
@edithjarvisfriday
@edithjarvisfriday 3 жыл бұрын
In a few years, those drones will be built with no noises and flying around fast just like birds. It will be so cool and convenient.
@Srankillerttt
@Srankillerttt 3 жыл бұрын
@@edithjarvisfriday It would be worst than that
@davidgbf
@davidgbf 2 жыл бұрын
I love the logistics industry!!! ✈
@victoriancu7358
@victoriancu7358 3 жыл бұрын
90% of people in the USA don't even know what alibaba or aliexpress is.
@juliananoreus6810
@juliananoreus6810 3 жыл бұрын
They do now because of TikTok it how a lot of small businesses buys from.
@juliananoreus6810
@juliananoreus6810 3 жыл бұрын
And they got some good wigs. 😭😭😭
@sidehop
@sidehop 3 жыл бұрын
That's changing quickly...
@sko1beer
@sko1beer 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of fish keepers and people in the gardening hobby know it’s where the stuff all comes from anyway why give a cut to the middleman?
@acidbot6681
@acidbot6681 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much expected. Most don't even know the earth is round!
@no1ycxie
@no1ycxie 3 жыл бұрын
I am working for JD logistics who started to build its own logistic network at similar time when amazon tried to do the same thing in China. Amazon failed in China. JD logistics just listed in Hong Kong this year. we have warehouses with robots working there. JD logistics is famous for its speedy delivery. If you place you orders before noon, you can receive your parcels the same day, especially if you lived in big cities.
@ryansmithc
@ryansmithc 3 жыл бұрын
Is this an ad?
@kitezopo2593
@kitezopo2593 3 жыл бұрын
This is not merely about between two tech e-commerce giants. But the retailers are affected as well.
@investinglearningmachine3951
@investinglearningmachine3951 3 жыл бұрын
Not just alibaba, but also JD
@robertdeas9395
@robertdeas9395 3 жыл бұрын
That looks really impressive. Yet when I buy from Aliexpress deliveries take as long as two to three months. Big promise?
@robertdeas9395
@robertdeas9395 3 жыл бұрын
This looks a lot like a promo ad.
@weirdshit
@weirdshit 3 жыл бұрын
You should be able to see the stages where the goods are. The delays for me is usually from the local despite being a small city.
@wric01
@wric01 3 жыл бұрын
Different market, in most of the world alibaba dominates with low price thus expect no returns and lowest price. Amazon service and return policy alone destroys alibaba in the west.
@mmrgratitudes
@mmrgratitudes 3 жыл бұрын
💯
@Clarity520
@Clarity520 3 жыл бұрын
That's fair.
@z.6398
@z.6398 2 жыл бұрын
Amazon steals from sellers and encourages fraudulence under the name of customer centric.
@SomewhereInRussia
@SomewhereInRussia 3 жыл бұрын
О! Галкин на Wall Street Journal! :-)
@seankim2743
@seankim2743 3 жыл бұрын
In a small country, or a small, busy city (like Seoul or Hong Kong for example), "fast delivery" is understandable. But in a continental, or global scale? I question - WHY?
@sophisticatedthumb5364
@sophisticatedthumb5364 3 жыл бұрын
what are you stupid it improves economic efficiency for everyone and everyone deserves convenience not just city dwellers
@hanhai8515
@hanhai8515 3 жыл бұрын
@@sophisticatedthumb5364 I think he meant to ask how 🤔
@seankim2743
@seankim2743 3 жыл бұрын
@@sophisticatedthumb5364 well for the sake of economic efficiency and universal convenience, we all end up paying for them by either global scale pollution or added cost whether by capital or human resources.
@ShivamVerma-uc5cy
@ShivamVerma-uc5cy 3 жыл бұрын
@@seankim2743 For sake economic efficiency and universal convenience, we take metros or car to reach another location and not walk there even if it contributes to pollution and capital. If this applies to humans why not goods? Utility will increase by improving efficiency
@oceanwave4502
@oceanwave4502 3 жыл бұрын
If you look at the world map, you see why China got the idea of BRI. Similar ideas can never happen with South Korea (a small country, both people and territory) or Japan (an Island country).
@anthomore4269
@anthomore4269 3 жыл бұрын
😑I ordered a item from China and the fastest cost me quite a bit and arrived around 2 weeks🙄, the normal shipment was estimated over a month.
@mmrgratitudes
@mmrgratitudes 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah... it will be interesting to see how Alibaba executes their plans. Amazon is customer obsessed - that's their whole ethos. I pay for Prime because I have full confidence in Amazon's policies and how they treat their customers. I just don't see the same thing with Alibaba. A lot of things from China are not just inexpensive, they're "cheap". Their goods are cheap, their service is cheap, etc. There's more to selling than just cutting prices. We will see...
@AlvinC-sz3li
@AlvinC-sz3li 3 жыл бұрын
You want cheap price but not cheap quality? This is business not charity. Every single penny you pay matters.
@UPdan
@UPdan 3 жыл бұрын
Amazon is more expensive than other online retailers. Sometimes it's 10-20 perfect. I think it's a rip-off.
@KatariaGujjar
@KatariaGujjar 3 жыл бұрын
You forget that most of the world's products are manufactured in China, and because they don't have copyrights, these products are learned, reverse engineered, and made into high quality, cheap cost Chinese origin products. In this way, Chinese manufacturers and brands are surpassing foreign brands who simply cannot compete on price. I've witnessed this myself as a user of lighting technologies; the Chinese brands were cheaper in quality 10 years ago but with the western brands manufactured in China being reverse engineered, the Chinese quality has improved significantly while still retaining that low price. The future for western products is quite grim.
@RedNeckSurgeyTech
@RedNeckSurgeyTech 3 жыл бұрын
I've ordered from them. It always takes 4-16 weeks to get my package. The packages have all been in good shape and what I ordered worked fine. But it takes forever to get to you
@AlvinC-sz3li
@AlvinC-sz3li 3 жыл бұрын
Depends on where you live, what you ordered, and sometimes when you ordered. Sometimes they need to send items in batch to reduce the cost. You are unlucky if your item is the first few ones in the batch. I have ordered several times, some comes 2 months after shipped, some only 2 weeks.
@dbxlbruh
@dbxlbruh 3 жыл бұрын
The problem of the counterfeit in China is that there is no concept of counterfeit.
@LetsLearnEconomic
@LetsLearnEconomic 3 жыл бұрын
Joe Bidens infrastructure plan is a copy of Chinas
@sololife9403
@sololife9403 3 жыл бұрын
the Tax between countries could be a big problem since it's related to policies that could change constantly
@grahamstevenson1740
@grahamstevenson1740 3 жыл бұрын
That matter is currently receiving very close attention. Expect a significant statement soon. Ebay(UK) is already adding UK VAT on goods shipped from China.
@nardo7687
@nardo7687 3 жыл бұрын
this is nice and good but didnt the EU introduce a new law where u have to pay up to 10EU tax when ordering from China.
@kimjongun5073
@kimjongun5073 3 жыл бұрын
You almost always need to pay around 20% of the total product+shipment price in EU for tax when it’s shipped from non-EU counties
@Apocalymon
@Apocalymon 3 жыл бұрын
Eww
@nardo7687
@nardo7687 3 жыл бұрын
@@kimjongun5073 I didn’t have to when ordering from ali just one time payment
@kimjongun5073
@kimjongun5073 3 жыл бұрын
@@nardo7687 I’ve rarely ordered from AliExpress. But most of my non-EU eBay and Amazon shipments have been taxed
@kimjongun5073
@kimjongun5073 3 жыл бұрын
@@nardo7687 idk why you don’t have to. Maybe because the price of your product is below the bar (40 euro or something, cannot remember
@AhmedMalik814
@AhmedMalik814 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Very informative. Simple to. Understand and engaging. Keep making in e-commerce.
@nihonarchive
@nihonarchive 3 жыл бұрын
To watch this video i had to go through alibaba's ads😂😂
@kazansky22
@kazansky22 2 жыл бұрын
If only everything sold on Alibaba wasn't a scam.
@PhotoJeticPoet
@PhotoJeticPoet 3 жыл бұрын
This is soooooo unsustainable we really need to check our spending and living habits.
@Lionhead2128
@Lionhead2128 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!! 👌
@oceanwave4502
@oceanwave4502 3 жыл бұрын
Said a westerner who live luxuriously for centuries (didn't care much about environment back then). Until it's China and Asia/Africa's turn to develop, suddenly environment issue pops out of no where. Don't dare to say that the West might take advantage of this trend to 'legally' hinder non-West's development.
@Lionhead2128
@Lionhead2128 3 жыл бұрын
@@oceanwave4502 Lol, nobody knew better back then and there was no consciousness around environment. Also Asia, Africa were mostly independent (exept India for the most part) and had all the resources to develop on their own. They didn't. Why? Today we know about the problem but hey, they go full yolo ahead with very few ambitions in sight.
@PhotoJeticPoet
@PhotoJeticPoet 3 жыл бұрын
@@oceanwave4502 sir I'm 27 and from a lower class neighborhood please don't paint our poverty as luxury just because I live in the west. America has it's list of atrocities and the treatment of it's lower class black communities is very ongoing. Fun fact I'm typing this comment from the park where I charge my phone because I couldn't afford my power bill during covid and now the only utility I have is water....
@IvoZivkov
@IvoZivkov 2 жыл бұрын
Let me know when this happens, because currently I'm waiting for orders to Canada for more than 6 months.
@Harvz78
@Harvz78 3 жыл бұрын
Alibaba still can't match the return policy of Amazon and most likely you'll get bad products from Alibaba.
@Matt-fu9wx
@Matt-fu9wx 3 жыл бұрын
Most things are so cheap, I wouldn't care. They are at least 2x 3X cheaper.
@Harvz78
@Harvz78 3 жыл бұрын
Will I do care no matter how cheap specially if the product you receive unusable. I bought a bluetooth keyboard, 9 of the keys doesn't work. Have you tried to return item to Ali? Good luck with that.
@Matt-fu9wx
@Matt-fu9wx 3 жыл бұрын
@@Harvz78 First I never retuned any stuff I ordered because they were working. Secondly, I saw a lot of people writting that they could return products. It might not be as good as Amazon but it's still common.
@Elyon074
@Elyon074 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 1:56
@DanielWilliamsGeorge
@DanielWilliamsGeorge 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer AliExpress to Amazon. But in India, AliExpress is banned and thats sad news
@gj1234567899999
@gj1234567899999 3 жыл бұрын
It’s good that AliExpress is banned in India because China is literally stealing I Dian land and killing Indian soldiers. Why would India want to help China?
@The1Ab0veAll
@The1Ab0veAll 3 жыл бұрын
@@gj1234567899999 Yeah, good thing they banned it.
@polystyleshaping8919
@polystyleshaping8919 3 жыл бұрын
India is too poor for them to notice anyways
@iammaobaoxian9308
@iammaobaoxian9308 3 жыл бұрын
Indians think they care, but they dont actually. There are so many countries out there
@iammaobaoxian9308
@iammaobaoxian9308 3 жыл бұрын
@@walterwhite3653 thats because india is overpopulated and poor. The government is corrupted and dumb. Even your underwear is made in China, how can you ban them? indians need to realise this
@ruemignon
@ruemignon 3 жыл бұрын
In China, Alibaba is getting destroyed by Pinduoduo (Nasdaq: PDD). Once you click on the button confirming the reception of product, AS becomes literally non-existent on Alibaba, it all depends on the vender.
@StewsChannel
@StewsChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, I'd be cool with ordering from Alibaba. My Amazon orders take one to two weeks to get here anyway (and that's with prime!)
@b.r.c9156
@b.r.c9156 3 жыл бұрын
Do you live on the 🌙
@vitaliyfursov2011
@vitaliyfursov2011 2 жыл бұрын
When you buy Counterfit - you get REWARDED with SAVINGS.
@jasons4045
@jasons4045 3 жыл бұрын
I feel sad for the robots in China, oppressed and have to work 24/7 non stop, force labor!
@nostalgiaalert6873
@nostalgiaalert6873 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps you need to see a doctor then, If you literally mean whatever you said.
@riser7795
@riser7795 3 жыл бұрын
@@nostalgiaalert6873 Perhaps you need to see a doctor, if you really take his words literally
@nostalgiaalert6873
@nostalgiaalert6873 3 жыл бұрын
How can you crack a joke on such issues? Its a well documented fact that force labor is used to manufacture products in modern day China aswell. Please refrain from making such a comment.
@ASK-ko9qx
@ASK-ko9qx 3 жыл бұрын
@@nostalgiaalert6873 Are you really that low on IQ or just trying to make serious comment!! Come on bruh it was a joke and you took it way to seriously.
@nostalgiaalert6873
@nostalgiaalert6873 3 жыл бұрын
@@ASK-ko9qx Also I see you're from India, never knew people like you existed in such 3rd world countries who by default should know what force labor is, Sometimes I think I'm just over-sensitive at such issues.
@arcatacompany
@arcatacompany Жыл бұрын
Problem with ali baba express is most the pics are copies or not of product and price is not specific
@ubaid.muzaffar.official
@ubaid.muzaffar.official 3 жыл бұрын
We welcome 🤗 from the 5th Largest County Pakistan to Both Companies...
@akshatshukla
@akshatshukla 3 жыл бұрын
Lol have u even got money to buy Internet pack.... 🤣 🤣 🤣... Leave alone phones...
@nykkchandan
@nykkchandan 3 жыл бұрын
@@akshatshukla Boom Mic Drop.
@nostalgiaalert6873
@nostalgiaalert6873 3 жыл бұрын
@@akshatshukla Lol
@abdulaziz-kt5ih
@abdulaziz-kt5ih 3 жыл бұрын
@@akshatshukla Daraz is doing pretty good here in Pakistan but doesn't have much competition hopefully Amazon will come to Pakistan which will be very beneficial for the customers
@pcp3457
@pcp3457 3 жыл бұрын
Boom boom Blast 💣💣💣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@TheUser808
@TheUser808 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is a lot of consumers outside of China are wary of the merchants on Alibaba. If they can promise customers peace of mind by doing a high level of QA, then Amazon will be in trouble.
@jasonlucas2328
@jasonlucas2328 3 жыл бұрын
Can Alibaba offer a refund if goods are held at the custom? The answer is no! Also, in the past, when there were quality issues, I needed to deal with the factory in China. Furthermore, if I needed a refund from the seller, the experience was very unpleasant. Alibaba is no more than a shell company!
@GundulmuGaming
@GundulmuGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Cainao i still waiting my package that said " Departure from origin country " but never landed on my country since june 2021
@bl5752
@bl5752 3 жыл бұрын
The CO2 emissions from this are just going to be horrendous. So much for even pretending we're doing something.
@thelastpetrolbender2744
@thelastpetrolbender2744 3 жыл бұрын
Luckily, China is also the country that invested most in the green mobility and green energy
@katel3962
@katel3962 3 жыл бұрын
My hobby is jigsaw puzzles. Many European companies don't ship to the US, and won't sell via Amazon. BUT they do sell via AliExpress. The AliExpress orders show up within two to six weeks, which is fine for me. Just happy to get my hands on these coveted European puzzles. 😁
@facts-ns7zt
@facts-ns7zt 3 жыл бұрын
The Indian Government should not have banned Alibaba and other Chinese companies and its taking a toll on the Economy at the same time the general population doesn't have any other alternative
@axcelblack2808
@axcelblack2808 3 жыл бұрын
Ccp bot
@facts-ns7zt
@facts-ns7zt 3 жыл бұрын
@@axcelblack2808 no im not im from India just because you are speaking against your government doesn't mean you're anti national im stating facts Indians rely on cheap products
@penguindevil
@penguindevil 3 жыл бұрын
I clicked on video and saw Aliexpress advertisement with Maksim Galkin 😄 I thought my adblocker was malfunctioning 🤣
@nyankanakitty
@nyankanakitty 3 жыл бұрын
That's going to be a very bold claim. Most likely impractical. Think about all the air fuels it needs, the amount of aircrafts, the cost of truck deliveries within the countries. I highly doubt it's going to happen.
@namdiguiremei306
@namdiguiremei306 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing is impossible for Chinese.
@monsterboomer8051
@monsterboomer8051 3 жыл бұрын
They will have logistic centers and warehouses in every country. They will not fly it 100%.
@mynk9046
@mynk9046 3 жыл бұрын
China never ceases to amaze me.
@gwailodemise-211
@gwailodemise-211 3 жыл бұрын
That is the speciality of china
@CEROtian9279
@CEROtian9279 3 жыл бұрын
Cainiao Logistics is the key for Alibaba's next 50 years success, not Cloud.
@MrGanbat84
@MrGanbat84 3 жыл бұрын
I love Alibaba. It is really convenient. I always satisfied for my every shipment. 👏🇲🇳🇲🇳🇲🇳
@Xenon-4300
@Xenon-4300 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what working for Alibaba is like compared to Amazon.
@ExcelonTheFourthAvalonHeirs
@ExcelonTheFourthAvalonHeirs 3 жыл бұрын
I bought from Amazon and Alibaba from the same place. While Alibaba usually take 1 month for shipping, Amazon only need 1 week. And it's international delivery from exact same country. And in my opinion it will stay like that for the future as well. I'm not dunking on Alibaba, I still use it. I'm just stating facts.
@the-listen8655
@the-listen8655 3 жыл бұрын
Love Alibaba ❣️
@sophiamartinez3862
@sophiamartinez3862 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. But how is this giving the customer the ability to physically see if the product is of Quality? How is this helping the Environment when the product is Returned and making sure the product does not go to a land fill?
@TakashiNippon
@TakashiNippon 3 жыл бұрын
Both are Great businesses to own
@anthomore4269
@anthomore4269 3 жыл бұрын
Shipping from China to the world it will takes way much time and $. It would be best if Alababa open multiple warehouses in the countries 🤔. Then from those warehouse ship within the country. It will save time and money like Amazon, USA has it own warehouses and Europe has it own.
@michauxborns
@michauxborns 3 жыл бұрын
07/19/2021 - Amazon: "Our terms have changed. Any dispute or claim relating in any way to your use of any Amazon Service will be adjudicated in the state or Federal courts in King County, Washington, and you consent to exclusive jurisdiction and venue in these courts. We each waive any right to a jury trial."
@zagfat
@zagfat 3 жыл бұрын
Is Aliexpress now available in the UK?
@brianm3160
@brianm3160 3 жыл бұрын
I love Alibaba and aliexpress, very cheap stuff compared to Amazon
@patrickp992
@patrickp992 3 жыл бұрын
Buying cheaper products from Alibaba (Chinese business) is an indirect way of supporting China. I'm willing to pay a bit more buying from Amazon to support the US.
@soyabro
@soyabro 3 жыл бұрын
@@patrickp992 yeah support drone strikes
@harunsamuelsitumeang7565
@harunsamuelsitumeang7565 3 жыл бұрын
You dont support usa, you just give fckn bezos more money. He doesn’t even pay taxes.
@vigodrakken7916
@vigodrakken7916 3 жыл бұрын
@@patrickp992 Amazon is selling Chinese products, probably from the same factories Alibaba gets theirs too.
@nineteen8486
@nineteen8486 3 жыл бұрын
I used to sell on Amazon...90 per cent of goods are from Ali baba
@dilanh2311
@dilanh2311 3 жыл бұрын
Does Alibaba offer free shipping overseas?
@BlackMamba-lt8oe
@BlackMamba-lt8oe 3 жыл бұрын
no
@chengjung5300
@chengjung5300 3 жыл бұрын
Amazon has advantages in the last mile shipping and localization, while Aliexpress has advantages over prices and goods options. And therefore Amazon will still be the best e-seller in local brands and foods, and Aliexpress, to many DIYers, will be the dream grocery stores for those hard-to-find parts. As many people already mentioned, however, lots of Amazon's 3rd party sellers actually import their goods from Aliexpress, which proves that they are not just competitors but also friends.still a
@louispaquet8185
@louispaquet8185 3 жыл бұрын
I got to the website to have a look, it doesn't work properly, so before the 72 hours delivery, they need to fix the website. Also, the explanation of prices in Chinese doesn't help me a bit.
@robertgittings8662
@robertgittings8662 3 жыл бұрын
*Alibaba website looks like Amazon?!? You got completely backward 🤣*
@johnburns2510
@johnburns2510 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck with Alibaba Returns
@mikeyoung9810
@mikeyoung9810 3 жыл бұрын
The last mile will be solved via robots if they can solve the problem of people not being home for the delivery and awkward size packages. Amazon has a serious problem now with faulty deliveries made by people who are more worried about speed than accuracy.
@snoopybro1512
@snoopybro1512 3 жыл бұрын
Too many variables to automate last mile shipping. Sounds simple in concept. But once you delve into the details and the various circumstances that can be encountered approaching different homes, you realize a robot can’t do it. You would have to individualize each robots route. As each one would encounter different roads, homes, apartments, and there various styles, driveways, sidewalks, etc. The most difficult being apartments, condominiums etc. Because these never follow an easy ground plan. They vary wildly. Then you would have to account for difficult weather. Rain, snow, heat, ice, wind etc. a machine in a factory or wear-house doesn’t have to worry about this. Now that it’s outside on a daily route, it has to account for it. Maintenance would also be comparably high for its usage and route difficulty. Then you would also have to take into account theft. How easy would it be to intercept and rob your machine? Once you really think about it. Automating last mile shipping is very difficult. And probably not worth the trouble
@hippopole9657
@hippopole9657 3 жыл бұрын
Competition is necessary but it is to be healthy , helpful and satisfactory to the consumers .
@thymythymyth
@thymythymyth 3 жыл бұрын
Time to buy BABA stock
@kythrathesuntamer9715
@kythrathesuntamer9715 3 жыл бұрын
Heavily discounted due to an overreaction to fears of chinese regulation I mean yeah it'd be bad for the stock but that bad? no.
@donkeykong516
@donkeykong516 3 жыл бұрын
Customs clearance from one month to a few minutes, wow...game changer
@amrishkrishnannair
@amrishkrishnannair 3 жыл бұрын
Amazon products be like: Pringles, Nutella, Lays and Snickers Ali-Baba products be like: Prongles, Nut master, Legs and Snipers
@SawSaw-ul8xu
@SawSaw-ul8xu 3 жыл бұрын
ok good luck alibaba i will be watching to see your progress
@edwardgiovannelli5191
@edwardgiovannelli5191 3 жыл бұрын
I've ordered from them before. My goods never showed up.
@SawSaw-ul8xu
@SawSaw-ul8xu 3 жыл бұрын
@@edwardgiovannelli5191 I am confident that your goods probably never showed up. Alibaba doesn't offer the same guarantees that amazon offers.
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