How Temu’s Explosive Growth Is Disrupting American E-Commerce | WSJ

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Temu’s parent company spent nearly $2 billion at Meta last year and was a top advertiser at Google. Read more about how Temu’s push into America is paying off big for Meta and Google: bit.ly/4ccJsOq

[@thejeffinvade]

Temu will replace dollar tree and dollar general, but not Walmart or Amazon.

[@MagnusElpron]

Wish was the exact same app, real report should have been what happened to it and how it got replaced

[@endgamefond]

1.7 billion?! WHAT! No wonder they get famous.

[@victoriacooper6892]

They will no longer need to spend that much on Ad

[@timoooo7320]

But why is PDD stock doing bad?

[@ropro9817]

"Amazon focuses on speed where Temu focuses on price." Why can't anyone focus on quality? There's so much trash products on both that will end up in landfill within 2 years. 😒

[@klj6723]

JD quick and quality But more expensive

[@infini.tesimo]

Because y'all can't afford quality made.

[@solidamanda]

@@infini.tesimo 2 years? you are being very generous. I'd say its trash from the moment i opened the package

[@johnl.7754]

Amazon has quality brands just people aren’t willing to pay for it a lot of the time

[@ssuwandi3240]

Amazon fulfillment costs are definitely on the high end range and that's a possible model for Amazon owned brands. Temu strictly is about a marketplace operator with a much more simple integration model.

[@emu256]

The secret is out. Amazon Sellers used to buy from companies like temu and sell it on Amazon for 3-4 times the cost

[@Mcowling]

This is why after seeing anything on amazon I would always look it up on AliExpress to see the difference

[@albert93911]

was never a secret. People have been doing this for ages with AliExp

[@angelofdeath275]

its why I never bought much from amazon tbh. before temu I would shop from similar sellers on ebay

[@omearica-rc6fp]

TEMU is a huge gamble. They charge you but do not send the products you ordered and items arrive BROKEN but they will not sent you replacements, even when they say they did. God help you if you expect them to refund you for missing items or entire packages even when they SAY they issued a refund. I was duped. I spent $300 and got only about $50 worth of the products I purchased. Cheaper to buy from Amazon and actually RECEIVE what I purchased. This morning I spent about an hour on their website Chatting with their Customer Service Bots hoping to recover something. PS THEY TAKE AN AVERAGE OF ABOUT 17 TO 20 DAYS TO DELIEVER IF THEY ACTUALLY DELIVER AT ALL. They are scum. They are rip off artisist.

[@ichbinnichtich]

It was never a secret

[@arjundureja]

This business model is not new, Aliexpress has been doing it for over a decade, and has been very successful. Temu just spends a lot more on marketing.

[@metalfly.]

Not quite, Temu also take a huge loss on delivery since they do it by air, so they can deliver much faster than Aliexpress for same or lower price.

[@user-tn4pr4gu3t]

They are not aiming to make money, but rather go IPO in Wall Street and make tons of money that way and just let it rot later because they know the trash low quality products don’t have a sustainable business in the long run but go public is a quick way to get rich.

[@ChyeHeng17]

If it's just as easy as 'spending more on marketing', Aliexpress wouldn't be able to have Temu as its competitor. lol..

[@theonlycaulfield]

​@@metalfly.They also pay people, including my teenage brother and his high school friends who have never bought anything, to watch ads on the site. I'm guessing that these non-purchasing users who just watch ads also factor into the large userbase.

[@djmeredith6520]

I see Temu as a cheaper, reliable and more desireable contents that fit today's world. I have never had issues to return the Temu products that I jad issues with and was able to apply the credits to other items that I am interested in. Quite happy with their products so far!

[@Wong-Jack-Man]

The irony is Amazons product was already mostly Chinese goods anyways. Sounds like a slow death for Amazon from direct to consumer.

[@Asianevermore]

Slow death? They have all of AWS and built logistics hubs taking over UPS and fedex market shares.

[@ElectroBlender]

China were getting globally subsidised mail.

[@amandaamanda5398]

@@Asianevermore It doesn't make sense for UPS and Fedex to charge so much for very slow delivery. Things should have been done more efficiently.

[@tomk5238]

Amazon doesn't actually make much money from e commerce. Their main income is web services.

[@tf-ok]

@@tomk5238 As of 2022, the company generates the majority of it's net revenues through online retail product sales, followed by third-party retail seller services, cloud computing services, and retail subscription services including Amazon Prime.

[@Beckywiththegoodhair9]

80% of goods on Walmart's shelves are from China. Chinese retailers have storefronts on Amazon. The only difference to consumers is if you want to spend a lot more for the same item. Amazon and Walmart are happy to charge you more. A LOT more.

[@BRBallin1]

Exactly. Temu is cutting off the unnecessary middleman. A lot of Amazon storefronts simply rebrand the same product from the same Chinese manufacturer.

[@ahe2988]

The “middlemen” also help to ensure suppliers meet minimum standards and sell products that comply w U.S. regulations and consumer safety laws. Amazon does not w all the vendors that sell shoddy and counterfeit stuff from China. Temu is like a marketplace filled of “JEBEJD” companies from the Amazon store selling fake and dangerous stuff.

[@everybodyhasoul5438]

This. It was touched on but this report buried the lead: People are learning that paying more for Chinese manufactured products to middlemen on Amazon is unnecessary. End.

[@mariealv4888]

At least those companies are giving you jobs in America. The Chinese government love temu and the idiots that buy theirs junk.

[@jackthomas7134]

It's not fair to say that Amazon and Walmart are worth their price for the service and quality they provide!

[@BillyGooding]

Billions of dollars of plastic junk going to landfill

[@maxhill9254]

True!

[@Johanneslol11]

it depends some products are really not bad from them.

[@barcode9510]

There should be a world wide ban already on chinese platforms tiktok temu aliexpress garbage and ccp spyware

[@Vifnis]

"Shop like a billionaire" Yea it's called a critic of late stage capitalism

[@takkarwenja5982]

Yeah because before temu we never had this problem

[@DonJuanMair]

Are we supposed to feel sorry for Amazon? They put so many small businesses out of business.

[@triple7marc]

The market preferred Amazon to those small businesses, obviously.

[@AlexPerazaTV]

@@triple7marc The market prefers Temu to Amazon, obviously.

[@triple7marc]

@@AlexPerazaTV Yep.

[@benjamincaron46]

Temu = Amazon BYD = Tesla TikTok = Instagram

[@Wild4lon]

​@@triple7marc are you being serious?

[@thomasbrown6970]

Temu is the online dollar store.

[@ViktorZhang-n1g]

No, It's a national security threat 😢

[@teebone2157]

And I love it

[@samaraisnt]

most things aren’ta dollar. the examples she used were even 10-20$. it’s just a discount store. More akin to ROSS, everything is 25-70% off but you can’t buy a printer or a coat for $1, get real.

[@tylersanders2388]

The other thing I think they missed in this analysis is that Temu offers standard free shipping across the board. That makes shoppers more willing to spend when the price they see is the price they spend. No $10 item that costs $6 more to ship.

[@jessy1982]

There are some import tax sometimes but the free shipping is a huge relief vs Wish for example

[@samaraisnt]

^ that’s only outside the US and my EU friends pay those fees on literally everything they buy from outside their country.

[@classikz]

I have zero interest in ordering from Temu, but competition is good for consumers.

[@01029690320]

It's a monopoly not competition

[@AdeleiTeillana]

Not when it drives the quality of everything down in an effort to compete with the cheap prices.

[@Glorious_Kim_Jong_Un]

Really???? So everyone else has to pay taxes but Temu, from China found a loophole European / American companies cant use and they're GOOD for consumers? Are you insane?

[@iqbalbhq6884]

​@@Glorious_Kim_Jong_Unso dumb 😂

[@minerbob4334]

@@AdeleiTeillanaThen another company will come in promising quality products. That's how a competitive market works buddy, stop fearing competition.

[@Cal97g]

It’s rampant consumerism

[@monbeauparfum1452]

You mean fhe end

[@Trgn]

"We all live in America". Capitalism and excess consumerism have long reigned supreme as the prevailing ideology globally. More bad time coming for the global ecology and wildlives. Not that it's not already is so effed up beyond repair.

[@yeahwhanever123]

as if us is any different

[@ewed418]

the malls ate small businesses, amazon ate the mall, Temu ate amazon.

[@god-son-love]

Not yet, not yet.

[@fiona8651]

It won’t last. Quality is rubbish

[@kshinokevin]

Temu (established in 2022) is like Wish (established in 2011; some region in China) then.. "Temu killed Jeff Bezos' brand (& Etsy)." - The Buggles

[@TheCybertiger9]

@@god-son-love At the moment they can't compete on the Amazon delivery

[@StellarJones]

@@fiona8651 If you are up for some cheap everyday stuff, get Temu. You wouldn't buy genuine stuff on Temu.

[@AbstractZombie-ed8fj]

Product on temu :$1.99 usd Identical product sold by an American seller: $10.99 It's not rocket science..

[@magentika]

Ploy is to undersell stock to take over the market then go back to regular pricing. Their inital loss is being accounted for by knowing they will take over Amazon. Unless people stop buying from them.

[@brotherbig4651]

They are different. Not the same product.

[@SOMEONE-eq5bu]

​@@brotherbig4651 not true they are exactly same product labelled and named differently to appeal as it's different

[@chancerc7523]

In fact, the identical product--even same label/inside descriptive markings, when they could have easily changed that--was marked up 30x on Hudson's Bay lol! While hudson's Bay happened to have a sale for that product. (Some didn't and it was even more!)

[@moonlightpaw5868]

@@brotherbig4651they all made in China

[@johnnygonzalez1907]

Respectfully I disagree with lots of people in the comments about Temu. I ordered from Temu before its heavy marketing and I can say the quality isn’t bad. Ironically the lots of pictures you find in Amazon or Walmart are the same ones in Temu for half of the price.

[@trish4540]

Exactly!

[@woodworkfromhome]

I can testify this.

[@kACT-c5x]

Same ordered a few things from Temu quality is not bad and prices are pretty decent. I would say quality (At least with some stuff is on par if not better than amazon). The only thing i try to avoid buying is electronics.

[@katek9903]

@@kACT-c5xtotally agree with you. We bought few electronics and said never again. Everything else temu is good. Price and quality. Even shoes and clothing is good and 50% cheaper then Amazon

[@yourleftnut814]

@@kACT-c5xtrue. i buy pretty much everything else except electronics. i have bought several dash cams from temu and never had issues though. i wouldn't buy something like a professional grade camera or lens from Temu though

[@bota02i]

people want cheap stuff because the cost of living in the US became absurd in recent years

[@KateGoodfellow-e1s]

The irony is Amazons product was already mostly Chinese goods anyways. Sounds like a slow death for Amazon from direct to consumer.

[@hhch2]

Let this be a wake up call to how American e-retailers do business - namely Amazon. There are no benefits to the consumer if there is no competition.

[@dougmorris5625]

Shopped Temu for over a year. Very happy with results and with quality of products.

[@PhoenlxA]

So do I. Everyone self is to blame for buying trash or stuffs they don't need

[@blifx]

Amazon turned into AliExpress but where everything is $20 more expensive

[@DC-qn4wz]

But middle-man (resellers) on Amazon want to get rich!

[@mikeh8416]

@@DC-qn4wz Buy from AMAZON!! Bezos NEEDS your money, $114 BILLION ISN'T ENOUGH!!

[@TomHofmann]

Countries should impose a landfill tax on these low quality product market places.

[@dxd42]

Hahaha free market... This US don't impose it on all corners of the world?😂

[@badbad-cat]

Suddenly the USA doesn't want a free market economy? It's free market only when it suits you or else taxation?

[@datdang9113]

@user-yj8zw7hk6f I think that's the point! The tax will increase the prices of cheap & trash products, making consumers think twice before making the purchase. If they can categorize the products that are likely cheap quality and will quickly end up in landfills, and impose high taxes on them

[@TomHofmann]

@@badbad-cat the problem is the massive amount of landfill created. The vast majority of these products are cheap copies of things that sell well on Amazon, often single use gadgets that can't be replaced and have no perceived value due to their low cost. The result usually is they end up in landfill within a short period of time. The same goes for fast fashion like the stuff Shein sell. Single use clothing that often doesn't even get worn once.

[@badbad-cat]

@@TomHofmann Can be, but that's how free market works. Those things have demand because people are willing to buy and use them. Should the government dictate what all normal products to be sold or favoured in the market? What could go wrong

[@djp1234]

Looks like a more trashy version of aliexpress, with gambling gimmicks on their app.

[@JavenarchX]

I know! I don't understand how Temu and Shein have even taken off. With Aliexpress around

[@wakaneut]

@@JavenarchX Because of the prices and various item selections. People just buy many things out of curiosity and impulses.

[@gildardo]

My impression as wheal.

[@DeusVult77763]

@@JavenarchX GEN Z. My generation is the one eating up all these Chinese companies. TikTok, Shien and now temu. Most of us are broke young people so who want the lifestyle of our parents so they turn to these apps. Plus Temu knows that teens and young people are more susceptible to marketing and gambling gimmicks.

[@14x7j4]

​@@JavenarchXAli didn't advertise during the super bowl. American consumers get scared easily.

[@GamerbyDesign]

Correction if your a social media user and do most of your browsing on mobile, Temu is everywhere. I am an internet user, primarily PC and I hardly see ad for that.

[@chenson9587]

same, i avoid seeing temu and clicking temu things as much as possible

[@vinesthemonkey]

most people still don't know about ad blocking!

[@6laquemoon]

@user-yj8zw7hk6f lol I watched for the same reason - marketing. I never see their ads because I only use social media from my laptop!

[@_Anurag_Thakur_]

I don't even see a single ad when I am on my Laptop but when I switch to my phone the ads are everywhere. Thanks to the AdBlock extension. 😂

[@alp3781]

I gave T the chance and got some tools and pocket LED flashlights and no complains. It came after 6 days and products are good. I still use these great flashlights at work. They wining over me. I have Amazon Prime, as well. I am shopping now for an Action Camera on Temu.

[@Sybertek]

America's e-commerce IS Temu and AliExpress, just a Hella lot more expensive.

[@darrenius]

I find it ironic how the US uses 5o topics of exploitative/cheap labor when addressing any companies that happen to be Chinese, but have no to little issues when their own US companies are the ones employing these same facilities to manufacturer their products

[@clementdato6328]

US companies in China are more generous in money to their Chinese employees than Chinese counterparts. That is well known, from south of China i am speaking

[@clementdato6328]

US companies in China are more generous in money to their Chinese employees than Chinese counterparts. That is well known, from south of China i am speaking

[@jessy1982]

And also exploit Amazing warehouse workers as part of shipping them, and Amazon workers in customer service.

[@clementdato6328]

In south of china, specifically US companies, in clothes production, pay more generously than the local counterpart. And their workers have more vacation. Your point is not exactly valid.

[@jessy1982]

@@clementdato6328I think they meant the local companies also sell to American companies, the US doesn't also start its own branches in China, just uses the existing ones a lot.

[@Vancouver.Canadian]

As a new Temu user, I am very impressed with Temu's products and speedy delivery system. Amazon charges 3 times more than Temu for the exact same thing.

[@frusia123]

I don't like Temu, but I'm glad to see Amazon having a competitor.

[@AceDong]

How can they grow so fast by selling trash, and why there are so many people buying trash

[@waterisformless]

I've probably bought 10+ items on Temu and only 1 (a can opener) was trash.

[@ryangreen45]

if people are buying then it means not everything is trash simple logic

[@DeepNightHour]

People eat trashy food all day long.

[@jeffjones114]

this is america lol

[@theredbar-cross8515]

Because it's not actually trash. People wouldn't keep buying if it were literally trash. You calling it trash is just more coping and seething that your country can't compete with China.

[@YoutubeKenny]

I run a small e-commerce business, and companies like Temu are killing us. The US government isn't doing anything. My products are handmade here in the US, so Temu is not our direct competitor. What pisses me off is that my customers pay taxes, I pay taxes, but Chinese sellers do not. Their shipping cost from China to the USA is cheaper than ours when shipping from state to state.

[@monkeyking-self-proclaimed7050]

That's what the store fronts are saying when your ecommerce business are killing them.

[@philistinetoad]

@youtubekenny do you have any website? I would love to see your products. Thanks.

[@KillenEMsoftly]

people get mad at inflation, then get mad at cheap goods

[@yummm8775]

Cheap but quality is garbage that's why.

[@heatherheatherway6282]

Not really. I find them quite usable most of the time.@@yummm8775

[@youngc0930]

@@yummm8775on the other hand, it is unrealistic to be cheap and have good quality at the same time.

[@sblue3964]

@@yummm8775 And you think that's better than expensive garbage that Amazon/Target/Walmart sells? At least you get what you pay for with Temu

[@sew_gal7340]

@@yummm8775How so? Sure my electronics suck but you shouldnt buy electronics from temu. I buy kitchen supplies and phone holders...just house hold stuff (dont buy things that you eat out of though). They are fantastic and totally worth the money

[@Adrian-zw6sc]

I guess I shouldn't be surprised at how many senseless gullible people there are that get suckered into buying such junk.

[@jimliu2560]

If you don’t like it… don’t buy it…… ….but don’t bad mouth people who do…It’s their choice to buy…!

[@308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane]

How many ridiculously overpriced cups of coffee at Statbucks have you been suckered into drinking?

[@jimliu2560]

@@quantumbuddhist By your logic, forever21; Walmart, target,mcDonals; etc…should also be banned because their stuff winds up in landfills also. …and what about the “sole” people that drive SUVs; monster pickups; ; muscle cars; live in big houses; etc…?

[@sfjava6239]

I love Temu

[@johnd.5601]

​@quantumbuddhist Go learn how to measure before you take a stand on what is and what isn't healthy for the environment. The sky isn't falling down. There has never been an environmental movement throughout history that didn't cause unnecessary suffering. In the 1900s they said there would be no more oil. Every time environmental protesters get involved human beings suffer and die. They have never been correct in their pessimistic prognostications.

[@steevthetech]

So. Much. Junk. 😢

[@molamolalaaa2968]

Wise words

[@AJ-jx5gm]

Quality control is almost non-existent for stuff on Temu. You can buy 10 of the same item & half can be trash. The worst case scenario is you get toxic goods that are hazardous to your health.

[@ShortFunnyTales]

Amazon has same junk at 3 times more $$$

[@Al-Storm]

Amazon has the same stuff, so does Walmart... So does pretty much every store in the US. The only difference is it's cheaper there.

[@inthefuns]

I find quality is generally excellent- often better than Amazon.

[@cdoe3395]

Remember in 2017 when Amazon made over 1 billion in profits and paid no tax and actually got a 200 million tax credit? Go Temu!!!!!!!! - They arent price gouging like Western e commerce

[@alluminiumminimalium700]

The United States subsidizes Chinese imports which is the reason prices on Temu are so cheap. So in a way Temu is even worse than Amazon.

[@MH_Bikes]

My last Amazon Prime delivery took 10 days. Just cancelled an Amazon order because the estimated shipping was 16 days. Is Amazon failing?

[@geraldwatts5492]

3:22 That's what Pinduoduo (parent company) does here in China. We love to use PDD to buy fruits and veggies directly from rural farmers, they are often home grown and unadulterated (unofficially organic). They cut out the middlemen, which is the supermarkets in this case. So we are paying growers directly for the goods, and not paying the supermarket's rent + their desired profits.

[@United_Wings]

Everywhere I go I see their ads even before this video

[@tmzz3609]

I've literally never seen an ad for Temu on any platform......... Algorithm knows you. Go buy some plastic that will arrive in 2 months buddy........

[@Viv8ldi]

Get adblocker for smartphone and desktop

[@michaellundphotography]

@@tmzz3609 Right? Ive never seen one either... I probably will now after watching this video LOL

[@United_Wings]

@@Viv8ldi I've always used an adblocker, but my adblocker was still being fixed so yeah i saw this dumb ads but not anymore

[@3b0d1999]

@@tmzz3609 I never bought a single item before online and i still get bombarded by their ads on my phone

[@dnickolov]

People just end up buying so much trash that they won’t ever use, just because it’s “cheap”. It blows my mind how much junk is in people’s houses

[@mikeh8416]

More amazing is how much junk there is between your ears. I use all the stuff I've gotten from Temu pretty much EVERY DAY!

[@richardbaron3921]

I don’t care how Temu does it……I love it I’m a crafts person, and I can’t get things anywhere at the prices they offer. Hats off to China.

[@zachariah7114]

"how" they do it? you know how, human rights violations

[@monkeyking-self-proclaimed7050]

@@zachariah7114 Proof? ... You really think you're not a slave to American corp?

[@JustMe-vz3wd]

@@zachariah7114 lol. i bet you couldnt point out China on a worldmap. Seriously, Chinese people are hardworking and innovative, thats why they win the race and can land on the far side of the moon. Forced labor is not a driving force. I remember how the west accused Japan of just copying products and ridiculed their small cars. It took some time before we apreciated their skills. Same with China.

[@stevepeck3723]

I ordered from Temu and everything I ordered was exactly as described and good quality. People should realize that the majority of low cost consumer products are made in China, so whether you buy from Walmart, Target, Amazon or online sellers, the source is probably the same. The question is, would you rather have money in your pocket or in the pocket of Jeff Bezos or Walmart shareholders? I know where I prefer mine. And the reason we see negative publicity for Temu is probably because US online retailers are paying shills to put out negative reports. Personally I dont have much sympathy for Amazon etc, because they for sure didnt when they were wiping out brick and mortar retail.

[@tomsbeingtheleo]

That’s exactly my thought, too. Simple, masked racism and sinophobia.

[@hotbodtz]

The No. 1 rule for e-commerce platforms is to know that there are billions of ignorant shoppers out there.

[@theYorkies]

Sad but that’s how the business makes money. Just like modern snake oil salesman.

[@Peekaboo-Kitty]

Anyone who pressures you to buy based on "Time Limits" will never have my business!

[@DC-qn4wz]

What if it's a steal?

[@Peekaboo-Kitty]

@@DC-qn4wz People who are pressured cannot make rational decisions. I've had such Scammers call me before saying: "You must buy TODAY or else the Special is gone." My reply to them is: "Well then why did you wait so long to call me?" 😆

[@anuragsinha2013]

Temu > Amazon Shein > Etsy Tiktok > Instagram BYD > Tesla Luckin Coffee > Starbucks Huawei > Apple Tastien > McDonald's ANTA > Nike

[@SKok121]

Chinese shops and copies be like 😂

[@IonorRea]

Aliexpress has a better selection than Temu by a long shot, customer service has worked so far though they tend to not provide a full refund if an imitation instead of the original is sent to you as you can check from consumer reports, while Temu is a new kid on the block, so one would hardly expect anything better. Both are inferior in terms of customer service to Amazon which on the other hand treats its workers like trash, likely not much improvement over the Chinese but at least Amazon gives somewhat livable wages (hopefully, Amazon's wage cages patent will soon improve quality of life for its workers beyond belief)... As for BYD, there are plenty of videos of burning BYD cars despite BYD claiming how damage resistant are their new batteries, so maybe later it will be better than Tesla but nowadays it really isn't, at least in the safety department. Well, at least as long as you don't invest in an automated crash pilot because Full Self Driving is with hardware in most of the current EVs just a stock hyping fiction that will never materialize for all weather and light conditions when it can't deal with few drops in front of the camera fast enough as Tesla removed radar from its cars.

[@jamesjoransen]

"cutting out the middle man" . . . Temu IS the middle man 🤣

[@JonySmith-bb4gx]

Nope .

[@klaytonickinson]

Temu's products are usually sold and shipped directly by manufacturers in China whereas Amazon goods are usually purchased in bulk from the same manufacturers, paid import tax then sold and distributed domestically, making the cost of operation a lot higher. So in essence the statement "cutting out the middle man" is not a false one.

[@Gold833]

This is why I laugh at the Tik tok ban, 70% of sellers on Amazon source their products from China.

[@stevepeck3723]

Ok then go ahead and order a container load of plush toys direct from the Chinese factory....woo hoo you cut out the middleman. The only question is what to do with the 9,999 plush toys you dont need...

[@YelizKaplan]

COMPARE THE PRICES...!! Amazon charges 8-10 times more for the exact same item on TEMU....

[@jerrywu5797]

Posting this comment from Shanghai - it's just really the regular price you get for the same item you spend 3x more in U.S. I really never order things from retailers like Walmart as they simply do not worth that price tag. This is the magic of mass manufacturing that U.S. used to be proud of. Most products are all made in China and follow the same quality - in fact, exported goods have higher standards than some of the domestic-only products because Chinese need trading and foreign consumers. Since I travel between both countries and stayed on both sides for decades, it always shocks me how expensive the U.S. products are compared to how much they should be priced at. I almost always order from Taobao and it's easy to get shipped to U.S. Saves at least 50% more compared to shopping them around at Amazon, Walmart or Costco. Plus, they are really, really high quality goods, especially furnitures.

[@jaker3151]

Another thing to note is that because China still claims "developing nation" status at various global institutions/organisations, like the World Trade Organisation (WTO), World Health Organisation (WHO), United Postal Union (UPU) etc, China is able to obtain extra benefits awarded to developing nations. By claiming developing nation status with the United Postal Union, the organisation who coordinates postal policies across the globe, China basically gets its international shipping subsidised by the "developed nations". This is why Chinese companies can send goods from China to the US, UK, Europe etc for next to nothing or even free in some cases. But when you try to ship or return something back to China it will be expensive. This developing nation status gives Chinese companies an unfair advantage in global e-commerce trade.

[@Wuroyewuro]

Great point! What can be done to stop China from abusing developing nation label?

[@constantinosbou]

That is so not true, with dude 🤣🤣🤣 China Is literally will very soon became the most advanced nation on earth 😁

[@diegoflores9237]

Every rich country became rich by protectionism and unfair trade practices. China is not doing anything that hasn't been done before

[@mikeh8416]

Answer me this. Where do those subsidies COME FROM? Yeah, your TAX MONEY, meaning you're ALREADY PAYING FOR IT, so you'd rather PAY MORE ON TOP OF THAT?

[@JustMe-vz3wd]

than why are other developing nations not exploiting that? Doesnt make sense.

[@wholelottamoney4595]

Why shop on amazon when most of the things there are just drop shipped now, thus being cheaper in temu, aliexpress, etc.

[@jonmcclung5597]

"But Grandpa, why did they keep buying it if they knew it was garbage?" "Because it cost them little" Conversations we'll have with our grandkids while walking past landfills.

[@LeNguyen-im8dm]

I stopped shopping Amazon for a while. I spend about $2,000/year on Temu for clothes and household uses. I have worn new clothes to work all the time. My co-workers thought I am wearing expensive clothes and look rich. I told them that I am wearing Temu clothes. If you know to choose styles and fabric, you look like a rich person even though you spend only $13- $19/dress on Temu. I only hand_wash my work clothes, so they last for more than 5 years.

[@mark9294]

Wow, that’s sad

[@lisajean1212]

Well until the US decides to lower them prices, Temu is where it's at!

[@zachariah7114]

Good thinking! You should totally compare a 2-3 day delivery in the US with a 20-30 day delivery from China... these are clearly the same level of service being offered. One isn't 10 times slower than the other...

[@SierraGolfNiner]

You know why I don’t like shopping on Amazon these days? It’s flood with cheap Chinese junk. What is Temu? Entirely cheap Chinese junk. If Amazon focuses on quality products they’ll win in the end because most people don’t want a charging cable that burns up or shorts out after 5 uses. Sure, they’ll try it because is “looks the same” but they’ll learn quickly.

[@jetli740]

good luck buy Usa brand

[@iqbalbhq6884]

Delusional 😂

[@SierraGolfNiner]

@@jetli740 I didn't say USA brands, I said "Cheap Chinese Junk". An iPhone is made in China or Taiwan, it's not junk. It's the $1 charging cables that have no testing, no compliance, and are made to the worst quality standards ever. Just look at anything popular, then look at the junk Chinese clones, like hoverboards about a decade back - their were quality ones (some made in China) and then there were ones bursting into flames.

[@lisashung9442]

You get what you paid for……it’s fair…….there’re tones of Chinese products with outstanding quality there if you’re willing to pay a bit more……however, if the Chinese products with good quality and very affordable price, then America will complain China’s productivity is over capacity and disrupt America’s market and jobs……like Chinese EVs ……because everything is about ”America First” ……😂

[@anemon8333]

@@jetli740 USA brands can be equally junk + you end up paying 10 times the price.

[@TheTraveler2222]

The only reason why Temu is hated is because it does the job so well it is killing all its competition. All this "national security concerns" are just all BS to hate a Chinese company that is doing so well. I hope TEMU makes Amazon go out of business..

[@oyayemayafaro7307]

I wish they wouldn't. The number of ads that pop up is getting obnoxious

[@TheJackfrost88]

with enough MARKETING anything can gain more consumer traffic; the only thing you need to add is a bit LOWER PRICE tag to your items. simple

[@NonEuclideanTacoCannon]

Can't be that disruptive, Temu doesn't sell anything useful. It's like the internet equivalent of a dollar store.

[@mikeh8416]

Yeah, NOTHING from the 10 orders I've made are useful!! At least not for MORE OFTEN THAN EVERY DAY!!

[@monkeyking-self-proclaimed7050]

Learn how to search.

[@K4R3N]

That online shopping dopamine hit 🎰🎲

[@mikeh8416]

The "I CAN ACTUALLY AFFORD STUFF I NEED" dopamine hit.

[@A.D.798]

I ordered 1-2 times from Temu and never do it again it's trash. I had one colleague who was addicted to order from Temu 😂 some things that were ok but most of them were cheap trash.

[@yongjinnkim9207]

It has cheap products and extremely cheap products. Their growth graph tells that ordinary people's purchasing power has been decreasing constantly, as opposed to the splendid economic success of the United States. In the time of the US exporting hyperinflation to the world, The marginalised consumers can't consider the product quality anymore.

[@Turkiye958]

I’ve never got a thank you discount card from Amazon and I’m a regular customer since 2010

[@alanc457]

When will it be declared a national security threat? When Amazon complains?

[@pitdicted]

So nice to see Amazon nervous.

[@Starsailor7]

Glad to see someone who shares same idea

[@jamiexxi]

The biggest shock of this was just how to pronounce Temu

[@off-gridsimplyhappyrodriguez]

I would not buy anything from Amazon,nothing I'll do without

[@pfefferle74]

Weird. That spinning wheel popping up made me immediately uninstall the app. I guess I'm just not Temu's target audience.

[@mark9294]

I know. So annoying. I just can’t believe there are people who tolerate being disrespected like that

[@yaretzyfernandez7334]

This video made me download temu

[@lilb07]

How do you not bring up the De Minimis Value?? Not a single dollar of import tax is charged on any of these items since they don’t meet the $800 value threshold

[@tomcullen8367]

There are no "private" companies in China, there are Chinese Communist Party cadres on every company board. These goods are shipped directly from Chinese warehouses to US consumers with no taxes or tariffs. The CCP massively subsidizes these companies and a lot of the items are made with slave (Uyghurs) labor. The CCP has a strategy to flood our markets (2 million packages a day, est 200 billion a year added to our trade deficit) with subsidized good to destroy our manufacturing. They have done it with electronics, ship building, solar panels, battery's, etc. They are ready to flood world markets with $10,000 EVs. How stupid we were to raise De Minimus from $200 to $800 in 2016. Congress has a bill to fix this. Call your Congressman and demand it gets fixed. Amazon also benefits from the De Minimus loophole, they forgot they are an American company, so they will lobby Congress to leave the loophole.

[@tomcullen8367]

Typical WSJ story, only focused on profits and business, not US National Security.

[@nonstopjoliver]

Isn't their greatest advantage the issue with de minimis shipments? Regardless, their ads are super annoying and I have contiuously blocked them.

[@sirtalkalotdoolittle]

Temu puts the squeeze on its suppliers in ways Amazon can only dream about.

[@binish.]

Next time reduce amount of times the temu box/cover shown. That it self is huge ad.

[@silversurfer8237]

Temu is helping folks cope with inflation. It is a good thing for the USA. If politicians try to break Temu, it just shows they do not care for the needs of the people.

[@sabeelm9]

Finally a competitor to Amazon. Their prices have been ridiculous in the recent few years.

[@ElectroBlender]

Does China still get subsidised postage rates for that junk they sell ?

[@IamLeighton]

all importers into the US get the same pricing

[@zachariah7114]

@@IamLeighton wrong, untrue, blatantly false

[@zachariah7114]

Of course, it's the only thing that keeps the wheels a spinning and the scumbags a grinning

[@brendad.c114]

I've bought items from temu and shein and still do .yes , things u can find on Amazon is being sold on temu and shein . Clothes on shein is pretty good but if it's house hold products or anything that are not clothes related , temu has it and even shein . Either way if you're buying from Amazon , they hike up.the price and items are from China..so what is difference ? All.of our items are from China.

[@Sean-ll5cm]

I went to buy some stuff on temu (office supplies) and found identical products cheaper on Amazon Au

[@cuteandfunnyearthlings2863]

China have got the supply chain for these temu and pindoudou companies which US can't supply.

[@mikeh8416]

Oh, Amazon supplies all the same stuff, but it's anywhere upwards of FIVE TIMES THE PRICE.

[@Springtha]

Stop lying that your more expensive product necessary = better quality. Most of them are also made in China + Middlemen + Very Expensive Amazon Fee + Ad. I think with the same price apparently Temu offer better quality.

[@kenobi69yearsago57]

I’m British and I agree. I’ve just completed my first year of University at 19 and I’ve managed to save up for a high end gaming pc with a 4k 240hz Monitor thanks to Temu 🇬🇧

[@dxd42]

US lawmakers: Time to sanction Temu 😂

[@RaveYoda]

Well, we should since the US can't do the same in China.

[@andresate6314]

I have bought a lot of things on Temu and there fine. No bad quality

[@dautube]

There are things that do not require to be "quality" products. That's where I go to TEMU and when I need quality I usually go to Amazon.

[@PeterSedesse]

Exactly. I wouldn't buy a computer from Temu, but a lot of stuff you buy is supposed to be plastic and is obviously the exact same thing being sold on amazon.

[@JonySmith-bb4gx]

Lol .. Is actually opposite

[@JonySmith-bb4gx]

@@PeterSedesse yeah I don't trust a bot like u

[@woodworkfromhome]

This! The first reasonable comment I could find in this section

[@nealrutgerskid]

Are these products safe based on US regulations like the products sold by American stores and websites.?

[@Skadooshboom]

Absolutley not.

[@torelloBank]

products sold by American stores and websites are made in china and south asian countries like bangladesh. so stop being the white moral knight. being hypocrite is useless in nowadays era of social media where one doesnt dependant on tv to see the truth.

[@paulyz8534]

Temu literaly sells knock off cheap plastic garbage. Temu and Amazon are probably the single source of plastic garbage filling worlds oceans.

[@jackthomas7134]

I prefer Amazon, better quality, better service! A symbol of America! Amazon is patriotic

[@lisajean1212]

Exactly why I refuse to buy from them 😉

[@zachariah7114]

@@lisajean1212 because you hate America?

[@efpl5049]

I ordered a baby stroller for USD 12.3 from my friend’s temu app, what i received is a Toy-baby stroller 😅 . the toy is good though 😅

[@lisajean1212]

Reading skills are a requirement for ordering from Temu. Guess you're outta luck as they are very clear on sizes of things.

[@Lolatyou332]

I have literally never heard of temu until this video.

[@Chinaglo24]

Watch out you are going to become addicted never say I told you so.

[@3066961]

FT has a great analysis on PDD recently, for those who are interested in this topic.

[@arrowtotheknee1649]

They are copying and selling other peoples products and not giving a dime back to the original creators.

[@thefilthelement]

“Congress is focusing on Temu because their billionaire masters command it”

[@kenobi69yearsago57]

I don’t care about what people say about Temu. The products are usable and I have managed to save up for a high end gaming PC with a 4k 240Hz Monitor as a 19 year old student in my first year of University. Thanks Temu, welcome to Britain and crush Amazon prices 🇬🇧

[@roxysponge3447]

I ordered from temu too. One item i returned so far. Money refunded very fast. Never seen so quick money return.

[@claudiuflorea2090]

nice try, Temu HR 😅

[@3b0d1999]

how much money did that monitor cost you

[@kenobi69yearsago57]

@@3b0d1999 Samsung Odyssey G8 £899.99

[@squarematrix7093]

Seems like we all are doing some sort of revolution against Amazon😂

[@shadowgrandmaster]

What this doesn't cover is how safe is it to shop on Temu? Do they have 30 day easy returns?

[@mikeh8416]

YEP.. INSTANT refunds, and they don't even want the stuff back!! I've had a few duds including a $19 outdoor light that wouldn't charge. Every bit refunded INSTANTLY and never had to ship any back!!

[@jedijooj]

This shows we really don’t care about the environment and only the company do so they look good

[@TheJackfrost88]

DID we EVER? all these fake Environmental drives are BS; conglomerates do that to get some TAX HEAVENS nothing more.

[@innoph1002]

What good in temu is they ship all together in one package,

[@greenearth9945]

I dont mind spending a premium for a western product if the quality actually were superior. The thing is quality has dropped significantly the last two decades by western brands who just want to cut cost at the expense of quality but still want a premium price for that "Western" brand image. If Im going to buy junk quality regardless I might as well do it for half the price

[@housepianist]

it just goes to show that people don’t shop for products. People shop prices. It doesn’t really matter what the product is.

[@ScottDieken]

And that's why there are so many s*** products

[@Sam-kx1qc]

People shop prices for the exact same product. But if there's no such product on Temu, then people shop local for that product.

[@housepianist]

@@Sam-kx1qc that’s what I was saying 🤷‍♂️

[@nitrozingguy]

But, isnt temu selling your data? I mean some ppl dont care about their privacy but i do...

[@wheressteve]

Everyone sells your data, the only way out is to not produce any data to sell. No bank account, no internet, no drivers license, no doctors visits, no financial interactions that don't involve strictly cash. That is essentially impossible for most people so good luck on protecting your privacy.

[@adamwalw6273]

Amazon, Google, Facebook...

[@cule189911]

I’d LOVE to see Amazon doesn’t sell your data

[@raullopz-ej6ik]

You worried about data while commenting on KZbin video, owned by Google 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@Rattler808]

temu is a tool of a foreign government. big difference between a company selling your data to make money and a company spying on you for foreign geopolitical gains. temu is a national security risk and should be banned.

[@specialk9999]

I recently read that Temu collects all the data on your phone and can see what you’re doing on it.

[@drinkingpoolwater]

All apps do that

[@specialk9999]

@@drinkingpoolwater yeah but this one is most likely giving your information to the Chinese government

[@Rattler808]

@@drinkingpoolwater big difference is temu is doing it for ccp geopolitical gains. other apps do it to monetize you, not spy for a foreign government.

[@muhiddeny.misbak542]

@@Rattler808 clown

[@JigilJigil]

It's a Chinese comapny, that's what it is told to do.

[@korcadream2067]

Temu is the new online Dollar Store! Most of products are garbage! Tons of waste

[@AaronBryant]

The United States being worried about forced labor is laughable!

[@Fairestof]

People complaining that it’s trash don’t realize that the items temu sells amazon sells at outrageous up price.

[@ugosmith7529]

Most of what amazon sells is also trash, except for some brand name items and a few oversees manufacturers. People are willing to watch the world burn just so they can save a few bucks on their garbage impulse purchases.. we need to get back to a sustainable market model

[@magentika]

Never giving them my personal and bank info after privacy issues reported and they fined

[@mikeh8416]

They haven't been fined. AMAZON has. Payments are processed in BOSTON, nobody in China ever SEES your bank info, and if you're THAT worried, there is always pre-paid cards and PayPal.

[@magentika]

Yeah look up UK court case privacy issues @@mikeh8416

[@magentika]

@@mikeh8416 they buyout the world and ur at home.