Amber Liu Speaks Out About The Dark Side Of Kpop And Sulli

Amber Liu talks about the kpop industry and her former member Sulli
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[@liahdirection]

What do you think should be done about this mistreatment in the kpop industry? Thank you for watching and Subscribe for more kpop related news and content

[@dmitrykim3096]

Psychologic tests and checks Every month, the industry is harsh and if people can't handle it they should be disqualified and get a treatment

[@hobi1kenobi112]

It needs an overhaul but doubt it will happen. Content, money, influence is all that matters. Even if they 'make changes' they'll only pay it lip service. :(

[@spring7643]

Let idols talk with fans about their problems. Like when Taehyung told viewers that sasaengs were harassing him recently. Let idols speak about all their issues and hopefully it will create change. Companies should not silence their idols.

[@monacojerry]

K-pop entertainers are the most exploited entertainers in the world. (Like baseball players in the U.S. before 1967.) They need a union. They need to organize. They need power. Especially women in the industry.

[@LunarHexus]

First, all of the double standards need to stop. Period. Women in K-Pop need to be treated as equals to their male counterparts. While yes, the boys do diet and while they do need to maintain a certain physique (maintain a certain ‘standard’), it’s even worse for women within the K-Pop industry because they are heavily scrutinized moreso than the boys. They’re held to a ridiculously higher standard in that they have to look a certain way, they can’t be too “overweight” but they can’t be “too skinny” either. It’s like they’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t. They’re expected to be skinny, perfect Barbie dolls with a pretty face, flawless hair, straight teeth, an hourglass figure and legs for miles. When the reality is, not every girl can be a size 0 or a size 4. Period. On the same note too, the women within the K-Pop industry are highly sexualized and openly objectified by their labels, they’re often used as sexual bargaining chips to earn favor with certain investors. Even some of the camera crew have zoomed in on them from inappropriate angles during live performances, and it’s that type of behavior that needs to stop. I love K-Pop, it is my favorite genre of music, however it has a very dark underbelly and it’s negatively affecting the artists. The industry needs to change.

[@PriyaPans]

You can tell she's so angry at the industry for the death of Sulli. And you know, I'm still angry. The industry is a mess, and it needs changing.

[@PriyaPans]

@rzcification don't post and then delete your disgusting comments! If you can't own up to having gross opinions because you worry what other people thing. Then you should probably reconsider what your opinions are in the first place!

[@amygold1833]

Not change but shut down the whole stupid industry

[@PriyaPans]

@@amygold1833 absolutely. I only listen to CL now, at least I'm supporting her independence this way

[@gavinrock6]

@@PriyaPans I'm glad to hear that she's still making music, though I truly miss 2NE1. I think the most recent thing I heard from CL was a song by Will I Am that I believe was called Superdope.

[@KnightGeneral]

Sadly, hunny, it will never change. It'll only get worst. It's been always like this since the 90's. It's only because of Social media that all of these bad side are coming out.

[@giannamollabinga-an7120]

The industry that's keeping them alive is the same industry that is slowly killing them. Rest in peace beautiful soul they can't harm you now.

[@chasityholmes3199]

@James Henry Smith the comment says slowly killing them

[@chasityholmes3199]

@James Henry Smith nah slowly because they are trying their best to deal with but they just can't deal with the pressure and the hate so they think it's better off to just leave

[@jackmake5115]

They can’t harm you anymore??? You think that’s the right way to say? It’s like you are motivating other to do suicide as it’s a best way to overcome.

[@giannamollabinga-an7120]

@@jackmake5115 i didnt mean it that way maam/sir. What I meant is that she will not suffer anymore from the demons surrounding her and I'm not motivating anyone cause I know how it feels hanging for life and im glad i am a survivor.

[@jackmake5115]

@@giannamollabinga-an7120 okay

[@JasmineLipska]

Wow, so much respect for Amber speaking up about this. It must have been difficult but she is doing an amazing thing❤️

[@ZhangBangsFury]

na failed then hating

[@cmfrtmoon]

@@ZhangBangsFury WTH?

[@Uwuw2023]

@@ZhangBangsFury na u never being an idol..

[@artisticalex1206]

I agree. This must have been hard for her to deal with.

[@ninf5041]

@@charlesdean03 she's just tired of all the nonsense

[@salsadilajannati5459]

"For girls, you have to go for the general public popularity. For boys, you need a fandom. Like a big passionate fandom" She's telling us the truth. Boygroup fandom is really passionate, wether in supporting and doing war

[@lucyfilia5341]

It's because mostly a fandom consist of fangirls...They would so anything for their boy group but have this mindset that they belong to only them 🤡🤡

[@adaezez8378]

@@lucyfilia5341 its really creepy

[@lucyfilia5341]

@@adaezez8378 it is!!! I'm especially scared of sassaengs

[@skrattardu20]

Also those 'bias is mine' kinda fans.. gosh, i just cant understand them

[@hhzy5748]

@@skrattardu20 there are some who joke about but those who actually mean it and get *jealous* when their idol looks at a women or smth, OMG I HATE THEM 👺🤢

[@hobi1kenobi112]

Bless Amber for speaking out. More people should, but don't want to lose everything by doing so, especially those working in South Korea. xx

[@imsexyroblox6838]

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[@aabb-zz9uw]

Things like critical reasoning don't exist anymore in Korea as the consequences are very brutal. Korea is going to be the world's first country to abolish free speech by law(negotiations between the large parties going on)

[@ammarahmed4532]

@@aabb-zz9uw yeah, sure...

[@TheSeriousAnalysist]

This video name should be changed to "The dark side of female Kpop".

[@Duma2011]

You can tell by the time f(X) released 4 walls that they were pretty much done with sm at that point.

[@abimon76]

Amber is so strong for openly speaking about the industry. She's straightforward and well-spoken, and she has a lot of experience in the industry. I can't think of a better spokesperson for k-pop. Hopefully with more discussion and better management, things will change for idols

[@nemoatlantis7148]

is she still in Kpop? or has nothing to lose for the industry anymore?

[@abimon76]

@@nemoatlantis7148 I don't think she officially left the industry, but I could be wrong.

[@ancelgeorge547]

@@nemoatlantis7148 She's still making music and going on tour, if that's what you mean. 🙃

[@notwerkinginthishouse8634]

@@ancelgeorge547 Really wish they would reunite

[@ancelgeorge547]

@@notwerkinginthishouse8634 Same T-T

[@7kanak]

this is an industry, they are not artists, they are products, and there are thousands of them on shelves ready to be 'launched'. and when they outlive their life expectancy new product will come. The viewers are not fan they are consumers, and what do consumers do, they criticise,choose,reject,consume the product till nothing left waiting for new one to come.

[@hiuhiu7622]

This comment is underrated. These artists are being mistreated as products. I really like how you pointed out the viewers and fans as contributing factors. I am so mind blown with your analogy it’s sending me chills. Thanks for sharing!

[@kt334]

Exactly. Stars are literally produced by companies.. they recruit at a young age, and make them give their whole life to training. They treat fans like consumers and they do anything to gain more $$ in sales. And lets face it, some artists are very "average" in skill but they receive fame from good marketing and good production.

[@johnpaulninoraval9811]

wow, umm this comment is just, hits gold. this comment just gives me the shivers

[@emotionaldamage9894]

Where's the lie tho

[@crigonalgaming1258]

Exactly. This entertainment is more like a "manufacturing facility" and a circus. The artists are baited because of their dreams. The fans are consuming it because of the illusion of perfection. And the ones making money? The guys in black suits, writing checks, whose names will never be revealed in public view.

[@ciggss]

what i thought kpop was: 🧚‍♀️🥰🎊🌸🎤✨ what kpop really is: 💀⛓😟⏳😈

[@user-wr6qj8dw7g]

Me too omg

[@user-wr6qj8dw7g]

I really wanted to be a kpop idol, now i think i'll be going to america...

[@victorialavien]

@@user-wr6qj8dw7g i think you will like here. you know, there's less pressure with beauty standards

[@sehobias4492]

All the music industry is like that.

[@sutapabanerjee240]

Every industry is like that only.....

[@lovetrustandpixiedust]

Sulli's death still hurts. Seeing the love and pain on Amber's face as she described her as "a ball of joy, very cute, very rebellious" made me cry.

[@Cvapora]

You know what I hate. When Kpop idols take their lives and people coming together to support and preach anti-bullying but then a week later, go back to hating and judging other idols. It’s a vicious cycle that needs to end. Idols aren’t perfect. They change. They make mistakes (genuine mistakes), they apologise for them, they try to make up for them and yet people just don’t forgive. They have love lives, they want something different in their lives and yet that is wrong? I hate the kpop community. I hate how toxic and obsessive they are. I hate that people get so riled up about idols dating. I hate that people can’t express themselves the way they want. I hate how stupid cancel culture is. I hate how people just hop on the hate wagon when it’s convenient. Idols are humans. They aren’t play things, they don’t serve you, they aren’t going to be exactly who they are on camera. I hope everyone realises how hurtful words can be

[@johnhp6565]

I really dislike the term idols, people shouldn't call them that, they are human beings not tiny gods to look up to. Definition: www.dictionary.com/browse/idol

[@terminator2846]

This👏👏👏👏

[@media1981]

Hollywood is not so different tho. It is common in every big industry that they demand more and push for perfection which kills the artist’s freedom and make them into puppets. Sadly it works and audience loves the outcome. That’s why it will never end.

[@beaa5001]

Everyone should read THIS! Thank you for speaking out for the celebrities, especially those silenced

[@littleblueberry6017]

EXACTLY I am so sick and tired of these people keep on pressuring them and demanding them to do things when they can already be overwhelmed with other things. They expect everything and everyone to be perfect and people call it " fake " but when they make mistakes and looks more real they don't like it or start making fun of them. It's like " WHAT DO YOU WANT???" These new groups are starting to debut and their fandoms are already starting fanwar like Treasure and Enhypen and other fandoms. They wanted fans to be happy but their fans make it a competition because award shows and companies make it competition as well and I hate it.

[@laryssalopesgyn]

This comment section is full of hate on the companies and korean standards but bro, we are the ones consuming what they sell us, so we need to look at ourselves and think if aren't WE the ones who hurt them constantly. They sell dolls and we buy it, so blame it on the fans too

[@eidznl1160]

Most of them are still obsessed. They(fans) pay for them(industry/companies) to continue this crime..

[@deff93]

yess, the industry grows bcz of demand

[@esther6664]

and worst is that they are acting like it's only korea , like no mate at this day and age 70% of kpop fans aren't even korean and I-fans are as rotten as korean fans

[@hoedownthrowdown9043]

YES

[@gavinrock6]

I suggest we all give our attention to Psy and his label

[@mikeyoo9841]

I like Amber. She is straight forward and right. She understand and dealt with industry but standards are ridiculous. But than again, it's us fan demanding all these. I hope there are more groups like Mamamooo. My understanding is that Mamamoo's company not demanding there diet. It's sad. I wish best for Amber.

[@maggieminimix9075]

Hwasa said that her company wanted her to lose weight. So I dunno about that.

[@dreamoffreedom4062]

Lol no , the ceo called them ugly and tried forcing them into strict diet but they refused, he even demanded hwasa to keep her hair long but she showed up the next day with a clean shaved head lol

[@LVSNHRE93]

You should watch how mamamoo diet on boss in the mirror

[@sitinurafiqah4746]

Solar said in boss in the mirror that their company go strict on them before their debut. And their company don't really care about them that much after debut. I think the reason they diet like what u watch in bitm is just they need to be skinny to fit the clothes but after the mv filming ended their stylists had loose tge clothes a bit because they know the girls are gaining a bit weight after that. Also the one who diet is just hwasa, solar and wheein but moonbyul not. So literally rbw doesn't go strict on them like what most of other companies do. Im sorry my english is not so good because it is not my first language i just want to say the truth. Correct me if im wrong

[@twoplustwo07]

I love her relationship she has with her male friends.

[@kazekagenoko]

She looks like she's in pain when she reminiscenced about late Sulli.

[@purpleteardropss]

yeah, she looks like she's about to blow and cry... i feel bad for her

[@jimmyd668]

Some people talk about HUMAN RIGHTS But that same people makes a fake account and gonna troll the artists like hell ,

[@sleepyearth]

We call it the performative activism.

[@saffrondt]

im so glad she talked about diet being a thing because i often have to remind myself that girls in bands DONT LOOK LIKE THAT NATURALLY and have to MAINTAIN that with often harmful diets.

[@battleangel4833]

Right, unless you're someone like Lisa of Blackpink, who has an exceptional metabolism and easily keeps weight off. Then you get hate for being TOO skinny. There's no winning.

[@battleangel4833]

@t - Do we know that she keeps weight off easily or that she gets hate for being skinny? She has mentioned the first one, so unless she's lying you can say we know that, and the second one we definitely know. There's no right way to exist as a celebrity, always harassed about something.

[@moniakthar1963]

@@battleangel4833 that is bullshit! You know she starves herself aswell.

[@rini6847]

@@battleangel4833 Every celeb and top model says that i have a good metabolism or that i eat pizza and burgers and still don't gain weight. Its in my genes. It's all a scrip! They all secretly starve to get that thin model body.

[@justsomeone6517]

@@moniakthar1963 stfu. Look at her child pics she was still skinny like she is now.

[@BlueWithoutBiu]

I know about the unrealistic beauty standards, but never have I thought that they were even controlled in the way they have to speak, etc. Amber is clearly a very articulate person, very eloquent and smart. It saddened me that she too, has gone through that. That people can't be who they are. God~ how frustrating.

[@battleangel4833]

It's not something that is hidden, but rather known without being stated. The idol is something that the company creates and their performer inhabits. More or less is dependent on the specific situation, but it's true that every group is their company's creation and they follow strict behavioral rules in addition to rules about their appearance.

[@idorus]

There's even videos of nct looking scared or worried because the manager is behind the camera and giving them signals not to say that or to shut up

[@ya.02]

Amber has been the target of stan tweet lately and most of them are new gen fans. That’s why I roll my eyes everytime I see tweets hating on her then proceeds on tweeting about Sulli and how the haters killed her. Such hypocrisy in that app tbh.

[@ninf5041]

@@ya.02 yup that's why Twitter is so toxic

[@fradks]

This is the exact reason to why 3 years ago, at Jonghyun's passing, I decided to stop listening and supporting k-pop. And honestly I am forever ashamed that it took him to take his own life to make me fully realize the horrendousness that they go through. Years later, to hear that idols from my favorite groups back then are still taking their lives.. My heart breaks more and more.

[@MongZong]

When I heard the news of Jong Hyun, I cried. I wasn't a fan of him, but it broke my heart so much because this is what many K-pop idols have gone through daily. Why I'm sad even though I'm not a fan? My favorite Korean actor commit suicide 10 years ago and till today, it breaks my heart that any Korean actor/singers commit suicide are mainly for the same reason: mistreated, depression, etc.

[@fradks]

@@MongZong I'm so sad for all the people working in those entertainment industries... I hope that as we, as human beings, become more conscious and free from stupid and outgrown stigmas, things like these stop happening once and for all..

[@MsRoxieL_2191]

His passing is what made me fall out of love with kpop. I just slow stopped listening to it until I completely stopped. The era that I fell in love with kpop is no more 😥😔

[@natalierodriguez6244]

@@MsRoxieL_2191 i was falling out of love with kpop before his passing but after his passing, i fully stopped listening to everything. I was distraught and honestly i too am still processing his passing bc he was my "ultimate bias" in all of kpop. I started listening to him a year ago and i finally listened to his newest album in august of this year and i just sit back and remember the good times. I smile, laugh, and still cry about it but i am so grateful that i got to listen to him and his music. my condolences to anyone mourning for a loss. It's painful but over time it starts to not sting as much.

[@MsRoxieL_2191]

@@natalierodriguez6244 I still remember the day I found out. I thought it was a lie until I found out it wasnt. I cried for days and felt lost and depressed. After watching this video I listened to his music the other day and started crying again. I thought wow he was so amazing and had a beautiful voice. Then I started to think of Sulli and Goo Hara 😔 but like you said it gets better with time

[@spring7643]

Miss you Sulli, I will always love you since I saw you in "To The Beautiful You" Kdrama, the best Kdrama I have ever seen. I love you too Amber, I hope you get the support you deserve 💜

[@skrattardu20]

Even just listening to what she's saying, i got shivers. Tbh I personally wouldn't be able to survive if i were to put in that kind of industry. I totally agree with what Amber said, "that's what art is. It's an expression. You cannot expect same thing from the same person constantly". No offense, sometimes this homogenous culture/society situation in SK is just unbelievable. I got to know about this from videos of foreigners living in korea, or even the koreans themselves & few of my friends who are living in SK.

[@joycelow4354]

I agree with your point of view. Honestly, what's a big deal to be different?

[@honey_bee5043]

art is an expression, you can't expect the same thing from the same person constantly 6:14

[@cathycook2909]

I have a lot of admiration for Amber, both for her talent and her determination to be who she wants to be.

[@ssarmy762]

EVERYONE PLEASE, think twice before writing a comment. If it is something bad, do not write it and keep it to yourself. If it is something positive, write it 100 times. REMEMBER THIS!!! Would you want someone to say something bad about you??? NO. Then dont do it to others. Please be kind and only spread peace and love :)

[@havanax8096]

Wise people like to be taken down by constructive criticisms rather than false praise if you don't see people as a qualified person for some task than just tell them , people who are wise will try to improve , it's really bad to give negative comments behind someone

[@cvxgaming6855]

Constructive criticisms are fine, but bashing/hating? That's not okay. There's a difference

[@havanax8096]

To let you know I am not saying that I would like to discourage a person but you can give him or her suggestions or some reviews regarding their talent if you think they can improve.

[@ssarmy762]

@@havanax8096 Well in this context we are talking about hating/bashing which is what happens a lot in the kpop industry but I do get your point

[@ssarmy762]

@Mochimin It is okay to say you dont like their music because everyone has different tastes so I dont see anything wrong with that. However the problem comes when someone says things like 'their music is disgusting' or 'they look like girls'. It always depends on how you convey the message :) hope it helps!

[@vixikie]

People should stop being so obsessed with others lives and focus more on their own. Why should you care what others want to do with their lifes as long as it doesn't hurt themselves or anyone. Mind your own business. You have your own life. You would not want anybody questions yours right so why should you. How can you grow and find yourself if you don't explore what life has to offer and go outside of your comfort zone. No matter what you do there are always going to be people who hate it so you better just continue being you. This is not only within the K-pop industry but life in general.

[@twoplustwo07]

We are born flawed.

[@MA-gn5nl]

Exactly! With social media we are constantly sticking our noses in each others’ lives...deleting Twitter and instagram was a huge relief and big step for me

[@sttgma]

When she said “girls have to go more for the general public while guys they have to go for the fandom” I agree with that so much because think about how when guys have to for example lift there shirt up and show there abs a lot of girls tend to thirst which is honestly disturbing because you don’t know how much they eat the foods they wanna eat or how many times they overworked themselves to get the body they have to get and for the girls it’s truly sad that there more judged from the public’s eyes more then there fandom like how there severely skinny at times or also being sexualized and hated so much respect for Amber saying this :(

[@andreinapereira552]

Idols love working out, tho

[@ivantabacchi9138]

I have a lot of admiration for Amber because she has an amazing talent and a great determination. I am happy she spoke out this about the Kpop industry and made me feel also sad about Sulli’s passing away. Amber’s expression really changed when she talked about her friend. Sulli didn’t deserve all that, nobody doesn’t and I am still trying to find a way to accept that she is gone now. “Just let her live” says it all. Thank you very much Amber for this ! And May Sulli Rest In Peace !

[@Genshin833]

Honestly I never knew sulli when FX Debuted but know when she died I knew the true meaning of scuicied and seeing her friends and family cry I knew know I have to keep going cause I myself is or was scuiciedle but know I’m still trying to get through it now but I see it now rest easy sulli I promise I will try to live on for you goo hara and Jounghyun but for now let’s just remember the good things sulli

[@rosie_rosey]

I hope you're doing good right know. We all have ups and downs and we all get hurt angry and upset but let's always remember the good and simple things that made us happy and the people who truuly love us and cherish us. Don't give up on your life cause nothing deserves it really. If it's for people we'll never be able to please them so we better live the way we wanna live and do what we wanna do. I know it's hard it is veryyy hard to do so but at least let's try let's fight for ourselves and for our happiness. I really hope that things are getting better and better for you. Have a nice day 💕

[@Genshin833]

@@rosie_rosey thanks you to

[@hunterchapman4699]

words are hard lol

[@ajaku]

I felt that way at times growing up, and I am so glad I stuck around and got through it! I'm proud of you too! Yes, remember the good things and if you ever feel suicidal remember there is so much more for you to experience out there and everything will pass...so so sad to me that Sulli felt so trapped she couldn't do it anymore. I wish there were better mental health resources for these young performers. The kpop industry is a toxic machine.

[@AnaissN]

This makes me worried about Hwasa, unlike other idols, she has more power in her company and us fans back her up always, but the hate from other kpop fans is really loud :( Im twitter they are always inventing stuff she didn't do, accusing her of false things, or twisting the narrative around past mistakes, and hating the way she breaks all the standards. Hwasa is honest about the pain this causes her in her songs (she writes them), and she's so soft and vulnerable out of stage. I know she's strong in so many ways, but she shouldn't go through this! I can't understand the hate she receives. Those haters should get a life and stop harrasing this wonderful woman. Not even what happened to Sulli and other idols can make them stop, people on the internet can bring the worst of themselves.

[@davey6022]

that is true facts your speaking

[@BritneyRamirez22]

the reason why i think most idols dont speak out is because they were brainwashed from a very young age (11-13) that this is the way..this is the exact blueprint of how to make ur dreams come true..and they train you..break your spirits for YEARS until they debut (or not) finally and why would they dare speak out now? especially in such a competitive field. Why would they speak out and risk getting everything they worked their whole youth for just for that to potentially get thrown away? its a fucked system.

[@fallondriade]

yep, idols and public in general. I remember that a few months ago, i saw a video, about an idol whose was praised because she practiced, even againts doctor recomendations. All the comments said that she was so professional and all of that, but I commented, that this type of behaviours sometimes are the cause that some idols cant completely heal their injuries.Society in general are brainwashed and praise when someone work, even when they shouldnt. Taking some time is a responsability with your own body and letting a person to take some time for their own health should be another type of support. But well, i only received comments telling me how bad I was because I pointed that instead of seeing how commited she was with her dream. 🙄

[@anniemazumdar8424]

At such a young age they joined ...?? N follow what they say

[@easyartshorts4993]

Now I get why Jackson is often so sarcastic with the staff...

[@ald4986]

What do you mean? Is there a video link?

[@amy45487]

But at some point she only had negative comments... it's really hard to recover when she only had negative comments :(

[@teresakarr934]

What happened to her?

[@fire34fly]

@@teresakarr934 Sulli took her own life on Oct 2019

[@manovimaindad805]

I heard the same is happening to jennie, is it true?

[@meaburro4207]

@@manovimaindad805 Not anymore, but it was really bad years ago. She had always gotten hate (still does, just less and more lowkey) because: resting bitch face + savage moments + yG pRInCeSs!1!!, but at one point she had a HUGE hate bandwagon. So bad, that almost everyone had this notion that it was normal to hate her, like it was just common sense that she was a bitch. Defending her or praising her was a nightmare, we would just get bullied by everyone, starting with most people in our own fandom (real OT4s are a minority). It was devastating and also scary because of the suicides in kpop idols who had gone through something similar. It was a really awful time. I know this already got very long, but I just want to mention that, when Jenkai was exposed to the public in the middle of that mess, a lot of exols made a genuine effort to get to know the real Jennie and supported and protected her (even from our OT1/2/3 "blinks"), even after the break up. They were like "don't worry blinks, we will protect Jennie

[@___axhish]

k-pop industry is one of the most brutal and toxic industry . Its not only the industry but the fans are also very toxic and ruthless . I was part of BTS Army , EXO-L , Blink and many more and i will tell u these fandoms are so so toxic and nauseating . it's like u can't criticize , call out artists on their bullshit , have to like their each and every thing the artist do even if their work gets worse day by day . these fandoms literally are worse part bout k-pop .

[@eve_ollie6494]

I have to agree. I’m a fan of BTS and many other groups but it’s strange to me that they preach a message of self love and just be yourself yet they have full emotional breakdowns when they make just one mistake. It’s very hypocritical and unfortunately doing the opposite of what they are saying, you have to be perfect. It’s definitely toxic which is unfortunately

[@___axhish]

@@eve_ollie6494 not only that they bully younger and upcoming artists , I have seen BTS ARMY and other major fandoms bullying Monsta X fans , Hwasa fans and others in so many comment sections of the artists videos like wtf without even a single reason

[@avantikalakshmi9294]

@@eve_ollie6494 agreed

[@dyndaputrii]

You are spilling the truth, some of the fandom's members really done too much. Even it is common for them to give negative comment about the company (i know sometimes the company doing too much, but guys that's how the industry doing. We'll never know their exact reason so stop being like this)

[@inggahermin821]

@D. Va oppa always right :-)

[@warrior9694]

F(x) and 2ne1 were the only 2 groups that did what they wanted to do in terms of music and style. They didn't try so hard to fit into the mold everyone wanted them to fit into, and thank god for that. I still feel sad that Sulli is gone, and I hope Krystal, Amber, Luna and Victoria and Sulli's family heal too from the loss they have experienced.

[@hossetttren253]

mamamoo is group that could as they wanted as rbw gave them lot freedom in all aspects

[@tatiana-bi5fq]

@@hossetttren253 2ne1

[@lotadle]

im sad that f(x) is over but im happy that they left the industry Sulli left the industry in a way that nobody should ever expierience she djdnt deserve the hate comments she didnt do anything and NOBODY should be treated like that.

[@phoebelam5761]

even though she was a kpop idol such a long time ago, you can see so much and how prevalent everything she's talking about the industry still holds today.

[@reignbeatriz532]

I remembered how jimin starved himself because he thinks he's not skinny enough for the theme of the comeback:((

[@KAKA-it6eb]

Did you mean Jumin from BTS? Anyway Jimin from AOA look like skeleton now she weight 35 kg i guess with the height of 5’2.

[@reignbeatriz532]

@@KAKA-it6eb Jimin From BTS

[@iampigoinkoink5185]

@@KAKA-it6eb 35😳

[@tripper9642]

Yeah cry me a river happens all around the world and still up to personal choice and he did that himself .....no one forced him just weak minded

[@DarkFaeCosplay]

@@tripper9642 tf

[@monacojerry]

k-pop entertainers are the most exploited entertainers in the world. (Like baseball players in the U.S. before 1967.) They need a union. They need to organize. They need power. Especially women in the industry.

[@rocketpsyence]

That's a thought I haven't considered before. They really SHOULD uninionize. I wonder if unions are a thing in S. Korea?

[@irfank1896]

They couldn't even interact without their so called fans lashing out/shipping them 😂

[@sleepyearth]

@@rocketpsyence No. The govt hate unions and the only "union" i can think is the church. lol.

[@2693742]

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[@m3lodic.33]

@@sleepyearth yup, look at the new drama Squid Game and the new protests of the 80k+ union workers against the arrest of the labour union president…

[@vanillaicecream9026]

Her eyes changed when talking about sully😢 i am sorry amber, and rip sully. Amber stay strong.

[@throwaway2325]

the hate sulli received always infuriated me. she never did anything wrong!!!! i miss her so much

[@Lalilou_b]

"Just let her live" Hit so hard

[@tranguyenthanh5710]

Idols are humans like us. Let's treat one another more kindly

[@pmj7344]

Love Amber and love her courage to speak up. Dongwan Kim from Shinhwa, the 1st generation idol also spoke up after Sulli's death. Rest in peace Hara & Sulli. Hope the world becomes kinder and more accepting.

[@naella203961]

Whenever I don't like some comebacks or singles, I just keep it to myself and still rooting for that singer. It cost nothing to keep your mouth shut and said nothing instead of hurting others just to satisfy yourself. When it comes to Sulli, I would always shocked by her transformations. But most of it was out of respect and I was proud of her because she did what she thinks the best for herself. The group comebacks that were critisized, how she move on from the gossip of her past relationship and how she changed into a mature actress. They're all achievements. RIP Sulli.. I'm sure I wasn't the only one who thought you were cool for being you.

[@timathongam689]

Amber may your life fill with lots of love nd never ending blessings as life goes on till the end. Be strong nd sty healthy. May your happiness last forever. Sulli....I miss her ,she was my favourite girl idol as well as actor. I always admire her since the beginning. Rest in peace Sulli. You will be always in our heart . Our love for you has no ends.

[@Jk-rg4zd]

They consented to do their dream job but they didn't know what they had to go through. I mean it's undeniable that Kpop fans expect these kinda stuffs from their idol. They expect their idol to be this super perfect God and goddess, which is not okay. They're humans too. If fans don't complain about their weights, their looks, their skin tone, their facial proportions, etc., probably they can do their job without these billsh*t pressure. Popstars don't feel that much pressure about their looks cause they're doing music and not modeling but Kpop stars are expected to be all in one. Why? Because of the expectations of the Kpop fans. They're basically the puppets of their company who are manipulating them what to do and what not. Kpop is just toxic. Kpop is basically just feeding the Kpop stars and also slowly eating them. That's really creepy.

[@tahreemfatimaj2344]

I agree w u 100%

[@kakashi5708]

This is because of those obsessed fan girls

[@purpleteardropss]

@@kakashi5708 fan boys are part of the problem as well, don't blame everything on girls

[@Ri57490]

@@kakashi5708 the majority of mistreated girlgroups have male fans. Don't blame it all on the fangirls, the fanboys are just as bad, sometimes worse

[@heseti8529]

Sulli has the brightest smile, its so pretty

[@laionelachan8596]

Amber's so brave. I mean she's just such a brave girl. It's so hard and difficult that she has openly talked about all that things. She still too much hurt in a heart. I really do respected her.

[@brivonn5222]

I respect and love Amber for speaking out against the industry and exposing them. You can tell she's so humble and chill. I really wish nothing but the best for Amber and I hope she's thriving still ❤️❤️

[@beetledune9264]

Those who wrote about these article about Sulli,,i hope u can sleep peace at night,knowing ur article cost somebody life.u hv blood in your hands.

[@martaaguilera8118]

You can tell Amber is being careful with her wording of thoughts and experiencies, maybe in order to not offend anybody or because if she calls out the haters and "bad" people in the industry , it could hurt her public image. I hope for a time when kpop can be more honest and inclusive. Amber broke several stereotypes with her looks and attitude, we need to keep supporting her and others artists because we dont fully know what they might be going through. Fans or not, idols need safety nets.

[@NoxNovak]

Amber is a jewel, a jewel that knows exactly what the dark side of Kpop can do to a person- People should listen, kpop stans should listen- People should change for the better, justice need to be made present. "Too many angels are dying" (Dreamcatcher) Not just physically but metaphorically. We should be the ones to save them, together we are strong. Together our voice can reach the sky. We should take a stand.

[@nappyheaven1500]

it's the cost of being idol but I think I prefer them being healthy and happy, not stick figure and ill, no no no

[@jackcc429]

"industry" says it all, they are item before they are human..Sulli tried to be herself but....

[@nappyheaven1500]

@@jackcc429 they earn a lot of money and become rich at young age, but the cost is that they lose themselves at some point

[@530MAIDU]

What is tragic is that I just seen a post by a KPOP idol drunk and stating that he’s NOT OKAY. I firmly believe that if the Music Company is making money 💰. Will they really intervene? This situation has to be “Talked about and exposed”. The family members need to ask if these young people are being treated with respect. The bullying that just was exposed by another female KPOP group..the management and HR Director should be more aware of the signs. SAD 😢. Sorry for this young lady’s friends and family.

[@Sonnenanbeterin1991]

You mean top form big bang right.. he recieved a lot of hate afterwards too

[@fayenette_]

I really wish it never happened 🥺, R I.P Sulli, Thank you for speaking up Amber

[@jerrywen5333]

As weird as it sounds, I feel like a boycott against the whole industry until they treat every group of both male and female artists equally and ETHICALLY!!! Yes, ethically. As sad as it sounds, it’s the truth. Both sides face a lot that we don’t know about but I feel like females get it the hardest because of stricter standards to make them look “perfect” in a way. Also, agencies need to be stricter on protecting their idols. There is so much hate and toxicity going on for countless years towards idols and they still face it towards disgusting fans everyday and it shocks me how ruthless these people are. It’s like Jonghyun, Sulli, and Goo Hara was not enough for these disgusting imbeciles to take a step back and realize how damaging their actions are towards these HUMANS.

[@pratibhamalviya6282]

2:26 guys she has a point now that I think about it. K pop is good you know but not until you start going more deep and at some point it becomes creepy and frustrating. I have been an ARMY for almost 1 year now and honestly sometimes I just feel like leaving the fandom obviously I will still listen to BTS' music and enjoy wholeheartedly but not go any futher. You know when stanning an artist you just start envolving in the fandom at some point. I know the fandom has unity but there are *way too many* toxic ARMYs in the fandom as well. But still I haven't figured it out yet. PS: I am *not hating on any artist* or dissing any fandom it's *just my opinion* but still if you stan any k pop group you will relate to many things that I just talked about, not just BTS but the whole k pop industry has a dark side to it (if you have been stanning k pop for some time now you will have an idea about what I am taking)

[@moonlight-im8ik]

I just joined bts fandom for like 2 months now, so far i'm enjoying the memes on TikTok, but from time to time I see some weird ass creepy comments that make me go 😬, but the twitter stans are a different breed luckily I left twitter. Honestly Armys need to chill

[@tzyagamalyezer5983]

the fact that at the end you clarified you were just using BTS as an example shows how defensive armies might take it KPOP stans are toxic, fans are fine I agree

[@inkantatem]

I love k-pop but I hate their fandoms. I cannot call myself an ARMY even tho I love BTS, it just doesn't feel right...

[@Kpoper_Luv_Mimi]

I really appreciate it that Amber spoke out about it. I know that it's been over a year since Sulli's death and I'm over here still trying to process that she actually died. I can't believe that she's gone. Rest in peace to our angel Sulli. I totally miss her so much. 💔💔💔😭😭😭

[@ariamembreno6119]

i miss sulli she was always my favorite! Its insane what the human body can withstand

[@siscojose5660]

I always blame the unsatisfied fans who pretend to be perfect and yet they are just trash themselves. May her soul rest in peace.

[@PUtrihaf]

Sulli is so cute ......looks happy outside😣

[@bewhoiam7130]

The fact is Kpop industry responded to the consumers and fans needs. Most of products and markets also do the same as well. Most of fans support idols who looks like ideal and perfect person (most of them did plastic surgery and always/often have the same (boring) pose / response and personality like they are manufactured person who represent to ideal people) That's why I never follow any trends and never support those kind of things. I don't anti plastic surgery and skinny BUT I don't support either. I support real artists and respect them as human being. Most of people don't realize what they actually support. They said because those famous people are talent 😏 There are tons of talent people in kpop Industry and this world who don't have beautiful look to meet this social expectations and they don't even get recognized their talent. Some famous idols right now, they don't even make their own songs or do things by themselves, like Amber said. They were told to do and people love them and support them. They did plastic surgery >> people like them and support them They have skinny shape >> people like them and support them They have bright skin >> people like them and support them What and how entertainment industry will do when people support idols like those? And idols who suffered from this society are people who tried to live their own life, make their own things and being themselves. This is fu**ing ridiculous and hilarious.

[@newyorknewyork1190]

Im so glad she was able to leave and pick up her pieces and move back home and continue stronger than ever. She is amazing and She stated recently she still healing and finding her way and she will we are here tu support her all the way as her fans and to let her know she makes us very proud and thank you for your music and your art!!! STAY CALM!! The destination is far❤️🙏🌹

[@virtuous_women_ofgod]

"for girls, you have to go for the general public popularity; for boys you need a fandom. Like a big passionate fandom" that statement is so true, i have noticed the girls tend to have more pressure on them. I hope things changes soon for the benefit of all involved, both girls and guys.

[@niqcal]

Sulli was so naive when I started following them. And even she was not my favorite member but I just can’t hate her, because she was just too innocent , like a piece of paper white paper, Chinese way of describing a pure soul. I couldn’t understand why so many people commenting on her, when she drunk when she not wearing bra, I mean, it was her personal life. But the worst thing has happened, and may she Rest In Peace

[@verdellellis4043]

You are so on point and making words accurate Amber Thankyou

[@zainep4288]

Rip sulli altho i miss her alot but I bet she’s in a better place now

[@itsrealmochakim99]

yes!❤️

[@madyson-graceshillito1538]

I haven’t seen amber before this and I have just got to say what an incredible woman for speaking up

[@sunfunk]

This is the exact thing that perfect blue, a 1999 psychological thriller anime predicted about the idol industry. Especially the ‘image change’ topic is literally what the protagonist wants through

[@kiab2324]

The sad thing is that this is the music and entertainment industry in general. It creates this unattainable image for not only the public but for the celebrities themselves. It's unfortunate that people can't be appreciated for their talent alone, and that fans think they own these people. No fan has the right to tear down another artist or group to build up who they support. Just like their art and let them live their lives freely. I do applaud Amber for speaking out because it had to be really difficult, and what she did was very brave.

[@jaykayhooray]

The scariest that could ever happen to a kpop idol 😔 cant even imagine how her members mustve felt and what theyre still feeling now.... she will always be missed! SULLI RIP

[@devashrijoshi9079]

7:07 I feel like this culture stems from the fans themselves. Afterall, what industry caters to is fan's demands. And I say fans are very much as responsible for this strict standards as well as these industries

[@sheenisweird]

It really upsets me when I see netizens speak about her with so much kindness and sympathy now because they are the very reason she is gone.

[@donislife5586]

Wow that is so sad and heart breaking! Really a tough industry and we all should love everyone regardless of looks. Sorry for the loss of her friend and beautiful girl and entertainer. Sending ❤ love from USA to all my kpop idols!!! LOVE YOU ALL AND BE YOURSELVES, WE WILL STILL LOVE YOU!!! 😇😇❤❤💯

[@edgarrobbins3375]

7 minutes of literal pure satisfaction. Any controversies and doubts over the treatment of humans and right or wrong is practically always hardly answered. People dodge questions and in majority they don't speak up coz they don't wanna get in trouble with the higher ups. This is why this is very satisfying somehow

[@user-zh5sv3op3n]

and yet even after this whole tragedy, twitter stans who think theyre edgy have the nerve to degrade and ridicule amber on social media too. its cruelly ironic after what happened to sulli. yall learned nothing.

[@evealexsis]

God Bless You Amber🙏 You should be an Ambassador for female Kpop artists. Unfortunately, the fans can be selfish and cruel. I'm grateful my daughter has a sense of Self and who she is. You remind me of her🥰 Stay Strong, Be You and Don't Let Anyone Tell You Otherwise😤 You are doing it for all of those who cannot dream for themselves....Thank You. Stay Blessed and Safe Always 🙏 ❤🙏

[@missea7355]

Bless her for speaking out, and yhis should be trending for a lot of people to listen to this🙏🙏💞💞💞

[@raashi9939]

i am an army.. but i hate when someone says bad about exo and any other groups.. guys love all the kpop groups.. support them..💜❤

[@RealbtsVmin]

Even K-pop male idols have lots of pressure to stay lean and they have to do strict dieting and workouts etc .because a visually appealing idol will have a lot of fans following, fans only care about looks not the talent

[@bravetherainbow]

This is consistent with the entertainment industry as a whole. Everyone knows the dark side of Seoul and Hollywood now. It is not about any one nationality... it's about profiteering and greed, and the ruthless competition between capitalist markets. K-pop fans please advocate for the rights of entertainers and artists and working people, not just in Korea but in your own country. But first of all keep looking after yourself and the people around you. Most people these days are just scared and don't know what to do. And that's okay, we just have to keep living and keep fighting.

[@yujibell]

When Amber says "girls have to go for general popularity and boys have to go for a dedicated fandom" it makes sense. Everyone criticizes female idols, but a lot are reluctant to criticize male idols because their fans are so rabid and will defend them to death. Female idols have no protection, more often than not

[@dianatanguy5850]

I still can't understand hate comments in general, you don't like something, no problem, just skip it, no big deal. Why people has the need to express hate to people that they actually don't know at all?

[@PaperCut819]

I remember Amber standing up for Sulli in a tv show. Amber's awesome. I respect her so much for that.

[@erwinthio6687]

crazy - I think will love Amber for her personality :> and she is beautiful - I know this is just my feeling, but I feel very comfortable when I hear you and you are really fun!

[@krissve]

Thank you for such a nice video. I appreciate how thoughtful and respectful you were.

[@kymtae7545]

Such a strong woman to speak out about this. I give my respect to you Amber🥰

[@klashnotfound1497]

Amber really has a way on expressing her thoughts and feelings into words which could pierce your heart deep inside and will leave you wondering and thinking about what she had just said that just makes a lot of sense and passion..

[@PsalmistofGod]

Amber is such an inspiration to me. She's very unique and very true to herself.

[@sahars878]

Thanks for sharing this with us ❤️

[@bambilynn4763]

THANK YOU AMBER

[@rhonalizaesperanza1908]

I got into kpop around 2019 and I'll try my best to protect female idols from those anti's rest in peace sulli I'm sorry I'm late༎ຶ‿༎ຶ

[@AerinK97]

All of this aside, I'm so glad to see Amber just doing her thing now and being her true self. I've never considered myself a big kpop fan as I just like some songs every now and then and don't follow certain artists everywhere. There's something about kpop that doesn't make me want to call myself a fan. The industry is obviously a big problem, I understand they want the artists to look good and that there are certain expectations and that's okay... to some extent. The way it is right now is just not good, it's not healthy and certainly not something to look up to for young girls who want to become artists one day. Besides that the whole kpop fandom is also so extreme, the idea of being a "stan". It's great to support your favorite group, there's nothing wrong with following them and being hyped for new songs or recommending them to friends. But that's not my experience with it, the fandom is extreme as well, and sometimes downright toxic...

[@kawaiiflowerface]

Amber is such a angel 🌹🌹🌹she's always with you sulli as a angel 🌹🌹🌹

[@asmitadogra]

"You are told what to do, what to say, what to think, what to look like"...omg...what is all dis...then whats the point of admiring these k-pops when they don't have their own individuality.its either scripted or controlled...so sad for k-pops..😢☹️

[@tahreemfatimaj2344]

Yeah Like Robots , wht to say , wht to do , wht to eat evn wht to think like wtf

[@cheerchillmoldovean9613]

There is a saying for this: All wishes have a price. If you make a deal, you need to offer something just to obtain what you want, not what you actually need.

[@doraemon5454]

F(x). They are the first kpop group that I stan. I missed them being in a group but I will always support them. ❤

[@doraemon5454]

And Sulli is my Bias 💔 and it still break my heart that she's gone💔😔

[@Neexienous]

Amber will never forgets Sulli as we never do.

[@HikarieDa]

Society has killed Sulli 🥺💔

[@itznctinthehouse1297]

I'm so sad that the society is always overly critical on the appearances of women. it's not only the Kpop industry, it's everywhere. Just normal girls being insecure about their body because there will always be someone prettier, skinnier than them, and people love perfect looking girls.

[@LivingOvercomer0713]

I salute you Amber for speaking out! not every artist can do what you did... i really hope that you are fine now and enjoying your life. I hope that there will be a change in kpop industry, specially with regards to female idols. Their physical and mental health are more important than anything else.

[@kopkrazy]

Vice TV should do a documentary the dark side of kpop