AMD Athlon 200GE Review & 3.9GHz Overclocking | Budget Gaming CPU

[@GamersNexus]

Check out our Best CPUs of 2018 video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/inTbm5t7gqyBkKc Article: www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3411-amd-athlon-200ge-review-overclocking-to-3-9ghz

[@kanuckistanprepper5321]

Athlon 200GE + 2080ti, best combo!

[@Zarcondeegrissom]

ok, so at 144min blender run, I think that 200GE is actually slower than the FX8370, lol. Great vid Steve and crew. B)

[@shellgas665]

Gamers Nexus Just thought of something, can you do an video on external Gpu over thunderbolt 3, with RTX 2080ti. Wanna know the limit of thunderbolt 3 , when it starts to bottleneck , thanks.

[@TechyBen]

AMD makes locked CPUs?

[@jw8554]

Granted this will only cover those near a Micro Center, where the Athlon 200GE is around $55 retail, Micro Center sells the 2200G for $79.00. Just Food for thought.

[@douglasrobinson8491]

That lens effect to super-zoom-in on the CPU at the beginning was ultra-cool

[@MinecrafterPiano]

Made me think about those old "How it's made" intros.

[@BrutalFates]

@@MinecrafterPiano This exactly....

[@007TheJr]

2016 all over this chip... rip?

[@InFlamesOfSorrow]

yea totally agree, that fingerprint tho.....

[@JMMC1005]

@@InFlamesOfSorrow First thing I noticed.

[@douglasrobinson8491]

Can I just say how much I love that your titles are actually descriptive of the content?

[@CommandoTM]

Like L1nu$ ?

[@scarletspidernz]

@@CommandoTM yup exactly, their click bait titles are so annoying

[@fnige]

*cof cof* linus *cof cof*

[@lauridscm1]

I think Linus sorta has to with that many employees

[@wile123456]

What do you mean? Dont you love it when add takes up all the top of he description and the are no source and if there is, its in a forum post (ahem Linus)

[@five5105]

I saw "3.9GHz" in the title and actually started choking on my pizza.

[@drrice1123]

But at what frequency were you choking on that pizza? I bet you 7nm that is wasn't 3.9GHz.

[@LoL768491]

@@drrice1123 lmao 🤣

[@suryaiyer13]

Looks like you aren't stable on 3.9ghz oc. Lets try 3.8 ghz.

[@noenken]

Dammit! Now I want pizza.

[@moldoveanu8]

You know pizza becomes unhealthy when it's trying to kill you 😂...I love 🍕

[@EnvAdam]

fun fact: depending on where you look the X4 950 says its locked but you can overclock it on a X370 prime (I got mine to 4.4ghz, its got bulldozer cores but still seems to be the same sort of layout so its limited by infinity fabric)

[@GamersNexus]

4.4 is pretty damn good!

[@Mockedarchie]

Why did you pair a x370 board with that? Asking because curious of a potential feature set I’m unaware of. If it works for you that’s all that matters.

[@matthewkinney5474]

@@Mockedarchie Probably has a better CPU, he was just testing his motherboard or something.

[@EnvAdam]

@@Mockedarchie got my board stupid cheap and wanted to verify if I got scammed or not now I am running a Ryzen 5 2400G so very worth.

[@-eMpTy-]

Toms Tech It's not an FX-4300.. The FX-4300 is Vishera which is based on the piledriver architecture and 32nm process while the Athlon x4 950 is Bristol ridge which is based on the excavator architecture and 28nm process.

[@frf006]

Is that the Walmart pc power supply in pieces there??

[@KiraSlith]

If it is, it's rightfully so. Buy cheap get cheap, and Great Wall's OEMs are cheap cheap cheap!

[@Cartoonman154]

Just send it back and dump it outside like in Robocop.

[@TheCarAudioGuy]

I'm glad its not just me that looks for easter eggs for future videos

[@jasongooden917]

I didn't notice that, the TITAN RTX on the shelf behind him distracted me.

[@kanuckistanprepper5321]

It's a titan V box. :)

[@TheJuggtron]

These CPU's remind me of when I first started building PC's while being abjectly poor. You would start with only the Mobo, cpu and an old (and I mean OLD) video card and over the year get new parts when there was money available. We've become so used to having so much money and computer prices so low that we forget what it was like.

[@BLKBRDSR71]

AMD employees: "We got the Athlon 200GE CPU done. Now all we got to do is lock it so it won't overclock". 1 week later. AMD employees: "Uh, guys, did you see the reviews"? "So who forgot to lock the processor"?

[@Cartoonman154]

Getting use out of that new lens at the start. lol

[@GamersNexus]

It's a great magnifying glass for our MOSFET photos! More of those coming up soon in a Buildzoid piece.

[@littlerhino2006]

Steve, just wanted to thank you for still including older processors like the 2600k and 4790k in your comparison graphs. I enjoy gaming at a smooth, high refresh rate but these graphs show there hasn't been munch of an improvement in the stuttering one might experience, would you happen to know why this is?

[@ZazzilasArden]

Simple. Intel has had no innovations or breakthroughs in about a decade. Intel's performance started to stagnate after the 2nd gen "i" processors. Every single generation after the 2nd gen only gained between 1-3% IPC and clock speed over the previous generation. For example, despite being three generations apart, the 7700K only performs about 9% better than the 4790K. TL;DR, if stuttering was present with the 4790K, it will still be present with the 7700K. There is barely a performance difference. It's sad, because they just keep hiking the prices every generation despite the fact that literally none if it is new and performs only very slightly better than the previous generations. That's just how Intel operates.

[@NBFaded2497]

Game Spirit This is why I haven't upgraded from 4790k. I had an FX 6300 and upgrading to i7 was massive but after that nothing has impressed me. Not going to spend another 300-400 dollars for 10-15 fps. Money is better spent on a better GPU.

[@andrewgoodall2183]

I have to say that I think, for general info's sake, an i5 4690k should be on the chart. There's an awful lot of folk out there on 4690k/GTX970 setups (of course I'm one) so whenever graphing on whatever topic, I think 4690k comparisons will always be useful.

[@kanuckistanprepper5321]

3.9Ghz? That's insane for a Ryzen chip with a permanent base/boost clock of 3.2Ghz. Ill stick with my 2200G though. :D

[@aidanmclean8574]

Should still make a good HTPC chip right?

[@ncohafmuta]

@@aidanmclean8574 Especially if it can do HDR like the 2200G/2400G vs the Pentiums/Celerons which cannot

[@kanuckistanprepper5321]

I should be able to. Same graphics arch just scaled down even more vs Vega 8 or Vega 11

[@differentlyabledmuslimjewi4475]

AMD has the sub $150 range under lock it seems even more with this chip, but yeah the 2200G is a great one.

[@KingHalbatorix]

It's athlon

[@PunkBat]

Damn that zoom looks cool and thank you for the quality vids gaming jesus

[@skillzorz101]

That OCed 2600k is killing it still. I'm one gen behind that with an 860, and besides AVX, it's still holding up.

[@ayuchanayuko]

Sandy Bridge 4 lyf

[@nacho4411]

yeah, 2600k is still relevant and an excellent budget choice

[@ShadowMebs]

I'm still running a 2600k, still strong, but I'm probably gonna upgrade next year.. it's been a good 7 years so far :)

[@MrYedige]

Gerbert D Aurillac just get a 2600k or 3770k. Massive upgrade for cheap

[@batmangovno]

I wonder how my 6600k would compare to it. Sometimes the Sandy i7 is awfully close to not hitting 60fps average at stock. Kudos to Steve and folks for the great 4.7 GHz OC, that's really impressive for even Sandy.

[@CaveyMoth]

SO MUCH BLUEEE! I'm digging the color choices/grading lately. You don't see a lot of blues these days.

[@bahamutx3]

Can we get a review on Steve's hair routine? :)

[@Ascendance2001]

It's exellent

[@5cottzdezine895]

It's good to see that you are not partaking in the Titan shenanigans - good job Steve

[@tarkett8529]

5cottz Dezine 🤞

[@DumbSloth87]

@@basshead. being paid by NVIDIA to "leak" a GPU and not expliciting it in the description is prohibited by KZbin rules.

[@financialcrisis3538]

Just look at the box right under his right white box thats the leak

[@DumbSloth87]

@@financialcrisis3538 That's a Titan V box.

[@financialcrisis3538]

DumbSloth87 oh lol arry nvr seen a titan box

[@thisamerican4337]

Perfect for me as I want a budget Linux machine. And do some video editing for vlogging in the future. So again perfect timing for a review thanks!

[@skillzorz101]

At 11:52 you show AC: Origins 1440p instead of Far Cry 5 1440p. I can't be sure if you meant to or not, actually.

[@euX222X]

The FX6300 are pricing from 55~60U$ (59U$ on Newegg), why you do not put him only for measure!?

[@MakoRuu]

That thumb print on your magnifying glass was driving me crazy, Steve.

[@TRMartin]

Would have liked to have seen some commentary on the 200GE's TDP, a cool 35 watts. Handy for a media server? Possibly a pfsense router, or anything that's targeted for 24/7 up time, or small enclosure, or quiet operation...

[@herpderp2736]

I'm posting this from a 200GE setup. It's superb for quiet operation with Alpine AM4 Passive heatsink , a small case and sub 100W passive power supply. I have one 140mm case fan in the bottom of Jonsbo C2-case, which takes care of all the cooling the whole setup needs.

[@lunchie80]

@@herpderp2736 Same except mine is in a Jonsbo U1 on a b350 with an m2 drive and a wraith prism cooler. makes a very tidy little HTPC with a cool RGB fan through the glass. I measured total system power while running Emby at just under 30w.

[@FireMrshlBill]

Chris Season I guess it depends on people's use case for their HTPCs, many are used as consoles/steam machines (like mine). Both of my HTPC/consoles have 2200g's (one as an APU and one paired with a 1060 3GB) and I even hit limits with the 2200g's cpu, though it would be interesting to see how a 200ge does over my undervolted 2200g (used as an APU in an InWin BQ656 mini ITX case with only CPU fan and some small 40mm fans I rigged in it for exhaust) since I still hit thermals in the 75-80c under full gaming load, though the Vega 8 still struggles even on a 720p bedroom tv at low settings, so Vega 3 will be lacking. Really excited to see what they do with APU's when they release the 7nm Ryzen/Athlon processors. But ya, if the HTPC is purely for media consumption and no gaming or other computing, then something even lower powered is plenty and cheaper.

[@herpderp2736]

@@FireMrshlBill I installed my old GTX 460 to my 200GE setup (with more powerful PSU)(see above), to see if can I cool everything with just the bottom 140mm fan blowing directly to the GPU heatsink. It works beautifully; GPU stabilizes at 64c, 200GE at 60c after 3 hours Total War: Shogun 2 play. The total power draw is about 180W. To reiterate: there is only one fan keeping GTX 460, Athlon 200GE setup cool. (actually 2 if you count PSU fan).

[@PixelPickaxe]

I'm now really REALLY happy that I bought the R3 1200 a month ago on sale! I got it for $79.94 ! :D

[@RetroBerner]

Maybe good for an HTPC or a retro gaming machine

[@PainterVierax]

For those usages, you might want to consider ARM SBCs because all the extra power of Athlon 200 in term of CPU and GPU are quite irrelevant in that case. But if you wish to run dolphin emulator, you might want another beast.

[@anonamouse5917]

+Steve Martino I wonder if it's powerful enough for 4k.

[@Vader294]

Anona Mouse yeah it’ll be fine for 4K playback. Plus it has a decent GPU for hardware decoding

[@PainterVierax]

Anona Mouse a small ARM is enough for 4K. An Allwinner H3 have sufficient video processing unit. It's a separate function from 3D GPU.

[@PainterVierax]

basshead, we talk about video hardware decoding. The goal of an Home Theater Personnal Computer is to watch videos, not gaming. And for retrogaming the GPU is totally underused even with a 4K scalling.

[@timothyandrewnielsen]

Every updoot I get is from an AMD employee who appreciate's Gamers Nexus's appreciation of their product decisions.

[@nukedathlonman]

Impressive chip for the money. Nice to see how it performs when not locked down.

[@NeRvERaT]

Thanks for the info, I have wondered about that cpu, don't want to end up with something that can't game on my strict budget.

[@zainr3002]

i just ordered my pc parts Athlon 200GE (55 pound) B450 Tomahawk (85 Pound) CX500M (35 pound) GTX 760 4gb (80 pound) Cooler Master Lite 5 RGB (50 pound) DDR4 (2 x 4gb) 50 pound WD Green M.2 120gb SSD (12 pound) So for 360 pound i have a decent, budget PC with a really good upgrade path. This is my first PC Build coming from an XBOX One S. I am very excited

[@salluna1957]

Great power point presentation 👌🏽

[@PO0YA]

4:49 just nitpicking here but that's technically incorrect as every die has it's own unique layout, if I'm not mistaken. it's even more common for the L3 cache to be in the middle as it's shared between cores for example Haswell E has it's L3 cache in the middle and cores on the side: www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Haswell-Labeled.jpg or Coffee Lake has it between the cores: en.wikichip.org/w/images/thumb/3/39/coffee_lake_die_%28hexa_core%29_%28annotated%29.png/650px-coffee_lake_die_%28hexa_core%29_%28annotated%29.png

[@damasterpiece08]

this is the 3rd video i'm watching on this and i know all the info from the first one on TechEpiphany, but i just couldn't miss THE STEVES !

[@MazeFrame]

A little Athlon for office and "mom broke her pc"-tasks. Neat.

[@Nishivion]

Waiting for this. For some reason the really low end parts are usually the most interesting to see.

[@GamingMafia_id]

Ryzen 9 Phenom X super uber Edition next??? Yes?? Please AMD make it happen!

[@MarcABrown-tt1fp]

You say that like AMD looks through the comments chain of Gamers Nexus hourly lol. You would have a much better chance suggesting that in the AMD forums.

[@GamingMafia_id]

@@MarcABrown-tt1fp I know lol, I'm just too excited, it's Athlon, feels like a throwback, back in '08-09 ish.

[@Hon2838]

@@GamingMafia_id write this comment on amd's channel hehe

[@johnb4545]

Love the thumbnail, two thumbs way up!

[@melangkoh4184]

man youre a talent, youll never run out of topics. You can literally yank content out of your a.....Just pic a random case and analyze the crap out of it.

[@bardacuda82]

What does your Senior AMD Market Analyst think about this chip?

[@kumbandit]

If he looks like a shill to you, you are insane. Go watch LTT and see the difference.

[@bardacuda82]

@@kumbandit Are you sure you replied to the right comment?

[@kumbandit]

@@bardacuda82 Since Steve is senior editor, were you implying he is related to AMD?

[@bardacuda82]

Don't drink and drive on a pogo stick. You'll end up accidentally jumping to conclusions.

[@mjc0961]

@@kumbandit ... Senior AMD Market Analyst is Snowflake, Steve's cat. It's a joke. Calm your tits.

[@bob1029384]

I think the GPU is the most interesting part of the 200GE. You should do a bit on this specifically since it wasnt covered at all here. I've seen some impressive demos from other youtubers indicating it might perform better than expected in a lot of games. Could be an extreme budget option for more people than it may seem at first glance.

[@ethancolbert]

@0:45 Why the heck is it "diffused" in US? I guess the word "sold" isn't fancy enough

[@THECOOKIE94]

"Diffused in USA" means that the Dice (the silicon chips themselves) were made in the US.

[@jorgevespucci9878]

Good to see the bearded lady doing hardware reviews now that the circus isnt "PC" anymore. Always pays to be multi-talented.

[@dog_knight]

Would love if you could add the 7820x to your comparison tables. I know it's a bit old now, but always interested to see where it sits in comparison to other recent CPU's. On another note, interesting video. Thanks for continuing to produce interesting content.

[@ugzz]

Neat, but looking forward to seeing numbers using the IGPU, you haven't fully reviewed it without!

[@Reviewing_Playing_and_More_RPM]

Cool review, very interesting...

[@DeadReckon]

I thought the Athlon was dead? Also is that the Great Wall PSU from the Wal-Mart "Underpowered" PC disassembled on the desk?

[@bengrogan9710]

They quietly refreshed the line last a few month after the Raven Ridge APU launch

[@React2Quick]

They brought a couple of them over to the AM4 platform after Raven Ridge launched.

[@WTFZOMG]

@J Fz i think these are 2200gs with 2 bad cpu cores and a bunch of bad vega cus. either that or theyre the rejects from the mobile/soldered on board soc lineup.

[@buizelbus3332]

@J Fz R3s could have SMT enabled if they had less cores

[@buizelbus3332]

@J Fz Dead i5s were used to make i3s. (7th Gen)

[@batmangovno]

Good review, now I'm buying the 7980XE. Those sweet turn times.

[@MarcABrown-tt1fp]

Well, You might need a very good cooler to at least keep the temps below 90°c, that thing is hot and expensive.

[@ccricers]

I'm glad you did this review for testing discrete GPUs. I own a 4560T (2.9 Ghz) and think this Athlon would be at least a decent switch back into AMD processors again. Because I agree 2C-4T processors by Intel are not worth their price point anymore.

[@grimonce]

I just did that, and this is amazing, this cheap can actually play game, play youtube at 1080p and display thrid 1080p screen. Before overclock it didn't work too well (I got custom cooling for that mind you). Long sttory short, had to upgrade, because of some old hw failure and decided I don't want an expensive cpu yet - chose 200GE. Cool beans...

[@SnipingMachines]

Dude keep it up! You have to stay consistent to grow your following.

[@SerpentXTech]

I knew what you meant but at 6:43 you said "intels closes competition is the G5600" but you meant AMD. Doesnt matter I was just "Nitpicking" like Linus said you "dont do" lol. Got to be critical or nothing will improve

[@Demon09-_-]

starting at 5:45 theirs some flashing almost artifact going on in the recording

[@toddsimone7182]

At 12:13 half the CPU's in the list are missing

[@DestroyerFather]

good stuff amazing review

[@newlinedetails]

I see that Titan RTX sitting on the shelf Steve.... when do we get more info???

[@Abishek_Muthian]

GN, consider benchmarking deep-learning data sets. Will require less effort at your end, but will provide tremendous value to the audience looking for build cost effective machines for deep learning activity.

[@TheOrdoch]

Is that the Great Wall-Mart Under Powdered power supply you've got torn down there?

[@frankthetankricard]

Did I see 2016 printed on the heat spreader correctly? I thought this cpu was released in 2018.

[@gertjanvandermeij4265]

BTW ... Can't wait for the Athlon 220GE & 240GE ! I wonder what they can do on this MSI bios ! Do you know WHEN those are coming ?

[@techpappee]

AMD said all Ryzen chips would be unlocked. I know the 200GE is zen tech but its not marketed as one. Hench why its not unlocked.

[@gertjanvandermeij4265]

200GE isn't Ryzen , it is Athlon .

[@techpappee]

@@gertjanvandermeij4265 its Anthlon branded yes but it is Zen tech. Its a 2/4 Zen chip branded Anthlon.

[@ibrahimelsayed2843]

I really admire the list of benchmarks. How much time it takes! I know that reusing other benchmarks results but wow 😊

[@spook30]

2:09 nice fingerprint and filthy magnifier.

[@StatusQuo209]

I'm waiting for Ryzen low power embedded ITX boards. Would make a sweet PFsense box for gigabit VPN builds.

[@malcolmholmes509]

Im waiting for a AM4 thin mini itx board

[@benhatto]

You put the core i9 9980XE as 18c/32t. If you use a template for benchmark graphs, please change it.

[@varenyagupta3012]

It's actually not a wise choice considering the Ryzen 1200 or if your want a APU then the Ryzen 2200G

[@toddsimone7182]

In reference to 10:15 correct me if I'm wrong but if you turned the graphics up wouldn't the framerate increase?

[@24Lakeshow23]

Aquaman is talking now techy things.. nce video though.. :)

[@Thermophobe]

Please do comparison with 2200g and its comparisons with the iGPU performance

[@allenwhite7947]

Can you do an overclocking tool vid? Going over Ryzen Master, Intel Xtreme, and motherboard tools vs UEFI overclocking. I would love to know how all of those stack up against each other.

[@React2Quick]

Ryzen Master is iffy for OCing. Best to do it within bios imo.

[@BMXaster]

This is one overpowered psu u got there :D

[@BobMotster]

Question: Do 4C/16T (or any kind of xC/4xT configuration) CPUs exist? If not, why - manufacturing limitations, undesirable performance change or something else? If yes, would you test some in the foreseeable future?

[@zusammenarbeitfurerfolg6962]

+Bob Motster Those kinds of CPUs do exist, the highest ratio I know of is 1:8. But they don't exist for the x86-64 uArch and aren't generally interesting for consumer parts because of the way SMT works. To be able to execute instructions, a core must first receive new instructions and then decode them. This takes a lot of time, while it waits for memory access, etc. During this time, the execution units don't do anything. So the designers add another fetch and decode unit which can asynchronously get instructions, which can be executed by the same execution units while the other parts are waiting. The more extra fetch and decode units you add, the more instructions can be received asynchronously. Now it is easy to see, why SMT isn't used in 4-way configurations or 8-way or higher more commonly. SMT takes advantage of memory latencies and overall access delays, so it doesn't yield too great improvements if those are low. So the law of diminishing returns kicks in and it isn't enough of a performance improvement for consumer platforms. The threads also compete over the shared execution units, making some threads wait until those are freed again. Their instructions cannot be executed by another thread meanwhile, possibly leading to performance loss, which is amplified by more threads per execution unit. Basically, it comes down to not having enough stalls for many threads and more threads having more possibilities to introduce new bottlenecks. 4- or 8-way SMT is usually only employed on custom server machines or on server-oriented designs like the POWER series from IBM. Unless Gamers Nexus becomes Servers Nexus for a video or two, I don't think they will actually test those CPUs. I am also not sure if most of the games/applications they normally test would even work with something like POWER9 because of architectural differences. I hope I could answer your questions. Should you have new questions, I'd be glad to answer them too to the best of my knowledge. Sincerely, ZfE

[@haxorinator8219]

Hardware Unboxed talked about this. Something like x86 SMT/HT isn’t super efficient. A physical core would be more beneficial than more logical threads. A 4c16t CPU would likely have the logical cores waiting for the physical cores to send instructions, creating a “bottleneck”

[@enricoceliz]

Would it bottleneck if you have an RTX card? Thank you again gamers nexus for providing relevant information. Always love it :)

[@guilhermebressan5689]

Can you pleeeease test the new NF A12 against nb-Eloop B12? Specifically the noise-to-temps ratio at different speeds!

[@Bandit-Darville]

Have you guys not tested the i3 8100? I'm curious how it holds up against the Sandy and -Ivy Bridge muscles from back in the day.

[@Kathdath]

would like to see your recommendation for a budget/cheap dedicated streaming pc. How cheap can one go for a streaming 1080p without use of a capture card (for 2 pc set-up)

[@b.h.6599]

Kimi the King of Spa!!!!!! Who is the Raikkonen fan?

[@V4mplr3]

Already mentioned this on "Hardware unboxed" I've bought a i5 9600k and a msi b360m pro vdh (cheapest mobo I could find) and, after updating to the latest BIOS I could overclock the CPU the same way as z motherboards... I only lacked xmp profiles on the mem. Can you check this out?

[@ViperDent]

The other problem is that the Athlon and Ryzen APUs have an 8x PCI-e limit, even if you have a 16x slot.

[@vegmario]

Oh! I see the Great Wall PSU dissasembled there :o

[@TheSickness]

@GN any chance of coverage on the MetallicGear (Phanteks sub brand) line of cases that have become available shortly?

[@Ghost3dOne]

So basically, its a pretty cool piece of kit thats really decent value if you're looking for an ultra-budget pc for light gaming / web / office tasks.

[@debrecenikristof6587]

Does msi do this for all of their boards? On the z270 a-pro the first bios allowed the g4400 to be overclocked, even though the miltiplier was locked. With the later updates they removed that but the first bios is still on their site so they are clearly not against it in any way

[@gertjanvandermeij4265]

So Steve , what would you do ? An 2200G for € 99,- or this 220GE for € 55,- ? ( it is only for my office , email / word / watching YT / etc )

[@GregPolkinghorne]

It's cool, but the 200ge makes the most sense in a total budget build, on a motherboard that won't let you OC. On a better board, the price increase for a 2200 becomes least significant in terms of increased total spend. So if you're thinking of buying a 200ge to OC, just buy the 2200 instead. The only situation I could see the 200ge making much sense for someone who is going to OC it is as a placeholder before buying a much faster CPU. Say you're going to buy the rest of the gear now and later you're going to buy a 3600 when they're available.

[@Exobyte3323]

Thats kinda right, but cheap b350 msi boards start at around 60€, while a320 boards start at around 45€, so if you have a little extra to spend, this is totally worth it.

[@FireMrshlBill]

Yep, agreed. Outside of that scenario where you needed a new PC now (say your old mobo/cpu died) and you really wanted to wait for the 7nm Ryzen to come out and just need a placeholder in a better system, I don't see a reason to pair it with more expensive motherboards. Even in low power/fanless/SFF builds where heat/TDP are more of a concern than price, the 2200g undervolts pretty well. Plus, since I live near a MicroCenter, the 2200g is $79.99 and the one time I saw they had the 200ge still in stock and on their website, it was $49.99 i think, so well worth the $30 upgrade to the 2200g. Now, if someone doesn't game or just wants an ultra cheap build where every dollar saved can go to another part in the budget, its a decent little cpu/apu. But, I have 2x 2200g builds, one left as an APU in a SFF mini-ITX case where power consumption and heat are big concerns (undervolted, GPU OC'd to 1500mhz and CPU left stock, temps hitting 75-80C under load and higher doing stress tests), and the other in my main HTPC that is paired with a 1060 3gb (OC'd to 3.9GHz), and it hits its limits with some games, like AC: Origins that I am just getting around to finishing up now (haven't even tried Odyssey yet). So its hard to recommend the 200ge as a long term solution when paired with mid tier or better GPU's on pricier motherboards over just getting the 2200g/1200 or better.

[@JasonGroom]

I disagree on it going on Non-OC motherboards. It should go on a cheap B450 board if you want a good upgrade path. Only put it on an A320 if you have no desire to ever upgrade.

[@FireMrshlBill]

I must have misheard, I thought OC for this was only in more expensive boards and not any MSI B350/450. Definitely very little reason to go with a 320 in a gaming machine since the cost savings is small over a 350/450, even for locked CPU’s.

[@ShravanParthasarathy]

that voice, stay well Steve

[@indenkellerag]

1:25 the psu explodes because of the 200ge's low laptop cmos battary power consumption

[@abcdefg9613]

This is like the old Duron cpus.

[@jari2018]

I cant se why they cant relese a 1 core 2 thread cpu or 2 core 2 thread and 3 core + 1 1 core 1 thread - Sempron, Phenom, Duron + xp comeback

[@PaulHojda]

@@jari2018 Why the hell would you want that?? 1 core two thread, or even 2 core 2 thread is simply not sufficient enough these days. Even loading web pages would be slow on only 2 threads. You want at least 2 core 4 threads for smooth daily performance. Websites have become really heavy, and full of scripts which are very CPU dependent

[@MegaManNeo]

For some odd reason, this gave me vibes from times when both Athlons and Pentiums were still the best for gamers.

[@NVMDSTEvil]

You guys should add Ultimate Battle Simulator to the bench tests

[@dieseldiesel9292]

I'm more surprised that a that an overclocked i7-2600k is performing almost on par with an overclocked Ryzen 7 1700. It would be cool to revisit good ol Sandy sometime.

[@Koeras16]

Single core performance is quite similar between those two. At the least the OC version of the I7. Multi-core performance is a different story though.

[@dieseldiesel9292]

@@Koeras16 Yeah In gaming I'm sure they have similar performance but, I agree. You can't go wrong with 16 threads.

[@nobrickzkickz2747]

Asrock released a bios update for the B450-HDV to overclock the 200ge. I have mine at 3.8 GHz

[@bradleypariah]

Your font in the thumbnail made 200GE look like it says 2 o o g e. I read it like "twooge" with a soft g.

[@Yurie13]

AMD should really implement the OC for A200GE.. buy OC Mobo then replace the CPU with higher one later time.. win-win.. i think they have plan to make the low end CPU OC capable? maybe when it hits 7nm? PS: what is that lens called? im interested on that.. that would be good if it has rubber base.. im doing electronics shite..

[@MindaugasJocionis]

Tried on MSI B450M PRO-M2 multiplier unlocked.

[@sourdippySs]

I legit feel like I am being watched now b/c just today I was looking for does cpu but couldn't find videos for that cpu 👀 Thank you for this video helped me Also can you do one for the amd s10? Am4 socket

[@blai5e730]

Re. Pricing. Does the US have manufacturer maximum or recommended prices or is it just free rein for retailers to exploit the buyer?

[@icdproductions]

Is this worth upgrading to over an Athlon II x4 645 for a internet browsing/bookkeeping build?

[@AlexandarJL]

What do you think about AM4 X4 Quad-Core 950? 3.8Ghz, also in that price range. Cheers

[@ZionOrange]

I am in the market for a new system for my son, he is a avid Overwatch fan and the i3 2100 is showing it's age. Having seen how badly the I7 2600K at 4.7ghz did and barely competed with entry level parts, I think if this bios is unlocked and stays that way then the GE is a nice part and cost effective. If MSI retracts the BIOS I will look at the 2200G for him. I have a RX470 4GB card in his current so I don't think I need to change that, but the 200GE will be a low cost significant improvement over an i3 2100

[@BigHeadClan]

AMD Athlon and Resident Evil 2... What year is this!!!!

[@TheNiteNinja19]

Would comparing this to the other Apu, the 2200 G, be a better comparison? Because that's a $100 part.

[@haoss69]

who gets a 200ge for gaming ? How would a 200ge for a HTPC ? 4k movies ? NAS in the background ?

[@Badtaste21]

I wouldn't say its performance is astounding, since used CPUs like an i3 3220 should be somewhere in the same region and cost much less, but it's still impressive what a little 35W TDP CPU can do nowadays, even being able to play Far Cry 5 with it and such.

[@Badtaste21]

​@@tomstech4390 Why not? You buy the CPU, run the benchmarks and tell your audience what it's still capable of in newer games, compared to new CPUs. Where do you see the problem?! There are quite some videos out there doing exactly that.