Best CPUs of 2024 (Intel vs. AMD): Gaming, Production, Budget, & Efficiency

[@GamersNexus]

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[@Warrior0fDoom]

Definitely want to see how far you can push the new Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE Black CPU Air Cooler. It's a 7 Heat Pipes CPU Cooler with Dual 120mm PWM Fans, AGHP 4.0 Technology, and it's for AM4/AM5&Intel 1851/1700/1150/1151/1200.

[@JBrinx18]

Thermalright water coolers are of big interest, though I know you're probably talking about air coolers

[@Slayn5]

As someone who is going to get a new high end pc in a couple of months...yeah! Every component you can guys think of, im totally interested, RAM, Hard Drives...even cables for monitors!

[@cyberxspeed]

Laptop CPUs

[@HiChessie]

Curious if there's a review coming for the new H5 Flow 2024? Looks like a promising entry-level case with support for bottom intake, but the PSU intake being flipped seems like it might interfere with the airflow.

[@thecivilizedgamer2533]

Userbenchmark: You took everything from me! 9800X3D: I don't even know who you are

[@JollyGiant19]

Here's their "review" of the 9800X3D 🤣🤣 AMD’s 7800X3D and 9800X3D CPUs, priced over $400 USD, are widely marketed as “the best gaming CPUs in the world”. This is demonstrated at low resolutions with a 4090-class GPU, whilst conveniently ignoring 0.1% lows (frame drops). Under cherry-picked cache-bound conditions the X3D chips can excel, but there’s a trade-off: the additional cache results in 6% lower boost clocks and 50% to 80% higher prices than their regular counterparts (9700X and 7700X). As with their Radeon GPUs, AMD is looking to drive demand through advanced marketing rather than delivering real-world performance. While Nvidia has effectively countered AMD’s marketing in the GPU space, Intel's marketers remain asleep (terminally?) at the wheel. Nevertheless, the 13600K and 14600K still deliver almost unparalleled real-world gaming performance for around $200 USD. Spending more on a gaming CPU is often pointless, as games are normally limited by the GPU. Without significant improvements in social media marketing: forums, reddit, youtube etc., Intel now face the very real risk of bankruptcy (third worst-performing S&P500 stock from Jan to Aug 2024). Since this summary was published just two days ago, hundreds of twitter threads, thousands of “pcmasterrace” reddit posts, multiple magazine articles, and several youtube videos have emerged in unanimous support for the $480 USD 9800X3D. All of these supposedly disinterested actors are working the weekend to convince you to pay their favourite billion-dollar brand an extra $280 USD this holiday season.

[@quan2913]

@@JollyGiant19 holy I knew it was gonna be schizo but I didn't realize the depth of this dude schizoness

[@theftking]

Has anyone ever figured out who CPUPro is/what AMD did to them?

[@GuakstickLabs]

​@@JollyGiant19What's even better to me is looking at the review for the Ultra 9, which has maybe 2 lines about it being a bit underperforming then the rest of it is the same "get the 13600k and 14600k" and "everyone but me are sheep" copy/paste for 10 lines.

[@Walterbgaming]

@@theftking AMD ran over their dog like every CPU release i am starting to think.

[@CptPatch]

The 5700x3d really is something special for tech packrats like me. A friend of mine found himself needing a new computer (his 4790k, or more likely its motherboard, finally made its way to gaming Valhalla after a decade of honorable service) and I had a defunct homelab node made of ebay parts with a Ryzen 2700. I updated the BIOS and passed along the MOBO/CPU/RAM and told him to swap in a 5700x3d when he got a chance and now he's got a functionally brand new gaming PC where half of the components would be e-waste if AMD didn't go above and beyond their support promises for AM4.

[@Snxgur]

wtf is a tech packrat lmao

[@SoficalAspects]

​@@Snxgur just another term for hoarder

[@Thanoric]

@@SoficalAspects Hey now, all of it will find use.....someday lol. I just retired my core2duo from 2007 w/gt 240 from home theatre pc to retro emulator.

[@BobSaget-d4s]

My Gigabyte first gen AM4 motherboard wasn't that nice to me. It says it has support but in trying to update BIOS and chipset it ends up on a BIOS loop that you can only get out of by starting over and updating both BIOSes. And you have to do them fragmented, if you use a BIOS that is too new without adding the right one beforehand you'll brick the BIOS. I'm just not keen on doing that on a motherboard with just one M.2.

[@godnamedtay]

It’s junk

[@jeffb.6642]

It's to the point now that "Stability" needs to be considered when making a CPU purchase, too.

[@GamersNexus]

And that even goes for the new 200 series! We had some issues out of the box with those.

[@jeffb.6642]

@@GamersNexus Yes. And 13th/14th gen has proven that you can't even always trust the stuff that initially seems stable and reliable.

[@Thanoric]

Honestly. Was lookin at making a "spare parts" pc for the gf's aging laptop, and was honestly lookin at a 12600kf for value/reliability.

[@jimtekkit]

We used to be just worried about DOA, now we're adding DANU (Dead After Normal Use) to the list of worries as well.

[@IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature]

@jimtekkit Can we switch that to DAMU? (Moderate use) DAMU Intel.

[@mate0821]

I don't know whats the situation overseas but here in Europe(Hungary) we can buy the R5 7500f for around 160 USD, while the cheapest R5 7600 is ~200 USD. With a little tweaking the 7500f can easly come close to that performance for around 20% cheaper. Paring it with a cheap AM5 board is a really good entry to the platform and foundation for a later upgrade.

[@blahorgaslisk7763]

A very valid choice. The only differences between the R5 7500F and the R5 7600 is a 100 MHz clock difference and that there is no GPU in the cheaper processor. I would be very surprised if over clocking the 7500F to the same frequency as it's big brother would cause any problem. The frequencies are 3.7 GHz base and 5 GHz Max boost against 3.8 GHz base and 5.1 GHz Max boost. I think it will be hard to notice the difference in gaming or other things without benchmarks. Give it a very slight OC and not even benchmarks will be able to tell the difference.

[@mytech6779]

$200 7600 with integrated graphics, verses $400+ 7500f with discrete graphics card. Discrete graphics are needed for fancy games and certain video production rendering tasks, but integrated are enough for most office tasks, video playback, and simple/old games.

[@user-bn8rf1nw1h]

in indonesia amd 7500f => 130 usd amd 5600 => 80 usd intel 12400f => 89 usd intel 12100f => 55 usd but then amd 9800x3d is more than 560 usd -_-

[@baoduy1994]

Lol, same to me. I live in SEA and I got the 7700 non X OEM early this year for around $170 USD. While the 7800x2d was around $375 USD at the time. The decision was a no brainer for a guy looking for the best p/p like me.

[@bal7ha2ar]

@@blahorgaslisk7763 even just enabling pbo should bring the 7500 up to its bigger brothers tbh

[@fyinghigh1868]

Best Overall CPU: AMD Most Balanced Price: AMD Best Gaming CPU: AMD Best Upgrade CPU: AMD Most Efficient CPU: AMD Best Mid-Range CPU: AMD Best High-End Desktop CPU: AMD Best Gaming CPU

[@yakumoyukari4405]

"Neanderthal marketing by AMD paying off to shill KZbinrs" -UserBencmarck loser 🤓

[@bodasactra]

Should have "Most likely to avoid honoring warranty" and put everything Intel makes on that list.

[@bringbacktron]

Midrange CPU went to Intel lol

[@purplegill10]

Mid-range and under-$100 went to intel

[@onyhow]

@@yakumoyukari4405 LoserBenchmark Losers. The Loser part has to be emphasized!

[@linguica]

I bought a 12700KF this year but I wasn't expecting to be congratulated by Steve for it. Thank you, I am mid-range.

[@godnamedtay]

12700k/kf is the goat mid range cpu. It plays 4K basically as good as any AMD cpu within 5%, & outperforms every x3d chip ever made in literally everything else that’s not gaming, by an insane margin.

[@puffyips]

@@godnamedtayI use photoshop regularly and I would’ve thought my 7800x3d doesn’t do as well as intel 12/13/14th gen but it beats em all 😂 but that is a rare occasion I’ll admit, glad I got it for gaming only though it’s still a cpu that can be locked 5hz+ mine hits 5050 all cores

[@skinscalp222]

@@godnamedtay 4K at what FPS? even an i5 10400f is good enough for 4K if 60 FPS is all you want. Resolutions don't matter when choosing what CPU to buy, it's all about what your target FPS is.

[@godnamedtay]

@@puffyips this is such a lie, but keep telling yourself whatever tf u want lol. Either that or u truly have no mf clue what ur talking about. Also, I promise ur not hitting 5Ghz in ALL cores in photoshop. U are a clown.

[@godnamedtay]

@@skinscalp222 4K is predominantly GPU bound. Most modern CPU’s won’t use more than 10-20% utilization in majority of games while in 4K…

[@Kendog]

I know the best overall gaming CPU is the 9800X3D and the 7800X3D and I haven’t even watched the whole video yet

[@Krims7]

I'm from tomorrow and I also know the answer.

[@MillhouseDaPlug]

Im from yesterday nn i also knew the answer

[@fyinghigh1868]

I knew the answer since the 5800X3D.

[@aflury]

I thought the 285k had a chance. 🤡

[@fyinghigh1868]

@@aflury In your dreams.

[@Zednix]

Thank you for putting these types of videos out before Black Friday and the Christmas holidays.

[@NoahRichard]

It can't be overstated how good it felt dropping the 5700X3D into my 2019 build. I was so excited that I went ahead and upgraded my cooler and RAM at the same time, lol. Here's to another five years on AM4!

[@GamersNexus]

Should last a while longer yet!

[@Thanoric]

Definitely sitting on my AM4 til 27' ish. Curious to see how Zen 6 shapes out and ddr6.

[@Snxgur]

another 5 years? jesus. thats abit pushing it lmao

[@bigweeweehaver]

consoooooom

[@hi-friaudioman]

I just bought a 5700X3D and paired it with a x570 mobo and a 4070ti I bought broken for $390 total. Fixed both. So for less than $700 i got a 5700X3D, 4070ti, 2tb gen 4 nvme, 32gb ddr4 4000. BTW don't forget to undervolt your 5700X3D by around 30mv/core. You'll get more performance under load with better temps and it'll boost for longer.

[@dozerd42]

I think Steve respects your time. To the point that I watched this video twice, where most videos I watch once at 2x. Reminds me of the Lock Picking Lawyer. Thanks Steve!

[@steverogers7211]

5800x3D gang still holding AM4 torch 💪

[@Alsax1985]

Still handles anything and everything currently :D

[@GamersNexus]

5800X3D was succeeded well by the 5700X3D, but the 5800X3D will remain the GOAT for what it did for AM4!

[@christophermullins7163]

​@@GamersNexusThanks, Steve. 🗿🗿🗿

[@MidnightToker24]

I used a low end amd fx 4350 for 9 years… you’ll be fine… well WE’LL be fine cause I have a 5700x3d that I plan on using for awhile.

[@HerbaMachina]

5800x3D represent 🙋

[@J.Wick.]

That 13600K or 7500F being 175 at Amazon, or 130 at Ali, respectively currently is awfully hard to beat.

[@larryfishermans]

I love my 5700x3d. Really gave my rig a ton more life, the old 3700x was on the struggle bus

[@GamersNexus]

That's a great upgrade! Good way to keep it alive a while longer. How long do you think you'll use it?

[@Adison19KH]

For my part, I'm super grateful my R5 2600 carried me through a great couple of years of gaming, but I'm simply astonished by how much better the jump to 5700x is. Might not be an X3D cuz it was outside my budget considerations but still, I've fallen in love too, especially since my B450 board is still running great after all this time!

[@Bangarang341]

2700x to 5700x3d was insane. I saw like a 2x frame increase. If only the GPU upgrade were as affordable!

[@Achi-g4r]

Personally I will keep using it until it stops doing 60fs at 1440p, only gpu upgrades till then​@@GamersNexus

[@Cynic_6489]

@@Adison19KH 5700X gang. i went from an i5-4460 to it and the difference is staggering. though in my case i went with it since the 5700X3Ds kept going out of stock when i was doing my parts shopping.

[@grzybki]

Great material. I would really love to see GN add "productivity" category with r9 5900x and 5950x included :)

[@rez_ava]

a special thanks to Mr Burke and his hard-working team for another year of roundup and excellent work , it's been a really wild year.

[@itsatrap4986]

18:50 What GN and many other tech influencers failed to mention is that the i3/intel systems are running DDR5 with high speeds up to 8000mhz. No one in their right mind would pair a i3 with $120 7400 RAM kit. So, that makes the 5500/3600 still a viable option over the i3.

[@Arcona]

The results show it running on 6000 though, which can be found quite cheap.

[@latioseon7794]

no one is running an i3 at 8000 since they dont go that high, even with an OC motherboard

[@CFI963]

The amount of work you put in is amazing! Thank you Steve

[@GamersNexus]

The whole team! And thank you for supporting it!

[@pootsplasencia4846]

​@@GamersNexusfor 4k would you buy a i9 12900k or a 7600x3d one has more cores and the other is better but in 4k it's not that much so would it be better to get the i9 so it can last me more years since it got 8 cores

[@ElderGamerX]

​@@pootsplasencia4846 If you're building a new platform for it, the 7600x3d would probably be the better starting spot. You can get the bundle from Micro Center, and it has a better future upgrade path. That said, I'm sure they'd both be fine for 4k. Neither is old enough to likely have issues in most games, so that'll mostly depend on the GPU.

[@FO0TMinecraftPVP]

We all know he's being paid by amd Intel is better COPE

[@TiaKatt]

I recently upgraded my husband's AM4 system from R5 1600 to R7 5700x. It's not the R7 5700x3d, of course, but it's plenty for his needs going forward and the price/performance and especially its power/performance ratios made a compelling case for it. I stuck a Phantom Spirit 120 SE on it (with MX4 as I hate the thermal dough the Phantom Spirit comes with), which is quite a bit more cooler than the thing needs, so that's fun, too.

[@slandgkearth]

It's incredible that 5800x3d is still on top of the gaming charts glad to have bought one a year ago, and it incredible how it prices has not dropped

[@SupraSav]

You can't believe prices haven't dropped?? It's no longer in production.

[@4Seraph]

The price went up by €250 here because it’s no longer in production

[@tarickw]

I have to say that I really appreciate the 2600 popping up on these graphs. I've indeed been thinking about refreshing

[@Loxly-ti4sq]

The fact that I can use a motherboard from 2017 to run a R7 5700X3D is crazy. Going from R5 3600 to this CPU doubles the framerate on some games, and not to mention the skyrocketing 1% low. As someone who isn't playing at 2k/4k monitor and is rocking a 6700XT for 1080p, I might just wait for AM6 for my next upgrade lol.

[@christophermullins7163]

Great setup. I have a GPU heavy build with 5600x and 4070 TiSuper. 5600x is just fast enough that is hard to justify 5700x3d but am5 is too expensive to justify. I am stuck in between 😢

[@jak3zera]

@@christophermullins7163 go for the 5700x3D, you wont regret it. I started at R5 3600, upgraded to R5 5600 and finally went to R7 5800X3D and the performance uplift in every upgrade was massive.

[@JustFrana]

dude I'm almost the exact same situation, next upgrade will be generational and likely only in 2029

[@xStarblazer]

5800x3d here and I went from the 3600x, also had a 6700XT. I had that moment too where it was like "shit, I'm pulling almost 50% more frames here on some games" and just kept opening games to marvel at the frames I was suddenly getting. Was a crazy moment for sure and made the upgrade worth it 100%. You have a great combo there, I went from the 6700XT to a 7900XT and honestly the CPU upgrade was more insane because a lot of games I play are CPU heavy so the CPU upgrade had such an impact. I'm also gonna wait to AM6 I think, nothing here yet has made me wanna rush out and upgrade, and that makes me happy because I don't really have AM5 mobo, RAM and 9800x3d/7800x3d money

[@shredderorokusaki3013]

i have ryzen 1700 since 2017. i got rx 6700t red devil in november 2021 after my previous card died and ince then irun all games maxed 1440p 60 fps. but in those who have ray tracing iuse fsr to run them with max graphics and max ray tracing 1440p 60 fps while those who dont have ray tracing dont need fsr yet because it srill runs them maxed 1440p 60 fps

[@willwunsche6940]

5800x3D feels like the 1080ti of CPUs 😂 I love how mine has held up especially for the price

[@adiohead]

My GTX1080 did well for a long time until it completely failed.

[@Karackal]

I'm currently considering an upfrade from AM4 to AM5. That would be the third board/CPU that my 1080Ti will have served in.

[@leonilyas3593]

and the r7 9800x3d is the GTX Titan (if you can get one. still waiting on my order XD)

[@bigskydude8068]

Keep your AM4 setup and upgrade your gpu....way more bang for your buck...

[@willwunsche6940]

@@bigskydude8068 That's the plan. Have had a 3080 10gb I got at launch for MSRP way back then with a 3700x before upgrading to a 5800x3D, always anticipated probably waiting till the 5080. Looking to buy maybe a 5080-5070 or AMD's next gen equivalent (if there is anything), whatever makes sense once they come out.

[@jhaluska80]

Great categories and recommendations. It's really easy to just laud the fastest processor, but you really have something for everybody here.

[@ChucklesMcChuckleson]

Thanks for adding the 12700kf. I have a 12900k that I got used for a song, and it is a killer chip. It's got a lot of the good of the 14900k without much of the bad. And it still overclocks well. I've got one in my workstation system and it challenges my 9800x3d in my main working/gaming system in virtually anything that isn't gaming.

[@visionary4787]

That inductor dice tho! Using embedded e-waste is such a subtle nod to sustainability, which feels like a rare and thoughtful touch in the gaming world. Copper lettering with blue resin? Chef’s kiss. And let’s not overlook the custom wooden box with its latch and integrated roll tray...practicality meeting artistry. It’s clear that everything here, from dice to the packaging, has been crafted with gamers in mind. Plus, I love how this feels like a throwback to when creators poured their heart into every detail instead of churning out mass-produced stuff. Supporting this feels like backing a niche indie project with soul, and honestly, I’m here for it!

[@GamersNexus]

That is a very kind writeup -- especially at the end. We worked hard on it for months! Thank you.

[@christophermitzel746]

​@GamersNexus Sooo looking forward to seeing that my set has been shipped! Epic Snowflake CEO dice! Can't wait! 🐈🐈🐈

[@takh6806]

We need Intel comeback or we will suffer of high prices from AMD

[@GamersNexus]

100%! AMD isn't immune to doing big company things, and it will. It is important that Intel recovers, though of course it's their responsibility to do so on their own merits.

[@mikkodoria4778]

most people here would disagree with you

[@Need4FPS]

Disagree... I paid just over 1 000 $ (AUD) for I9 13900KS 2 years ago. Few days ago I paid almost 850 $ for 9800x3D. Tbh these 850$ hurt more cause I know I am not paying top price for overall best CPU cause my I9 can still run laps around 9800x3D in productivity

[@DrMicoco]

@@Need4FPS why did you buy the 9800x3d then?

[@yorkan213swd6]

Get ARM.

[@redsymphony7119]

This year, I upgraded both of my AM4 gaming rigs They were initially equipped with Zen 1 CPUs (R7 1800X and R5 1400), which I upgraded to a 5800X3D and a 5700X3D, respectively. Hard to believe you can get such a galactic performance uplift without changing to a new socket. Makes me so happy I went with AM4 back in 2017. Glad I didn't need to switch out my perfectly good DDR4 sticks either!

[@randomguy2579]

Did you have to switch out your motherboard to? Or did yours support such a "newer" CPU?

[@redsymphony7119]

@randomguy2579 Nope. Didn't switch out either of my X370 and B350 boards. I was surprised even my Asrock AB350 ITX got an update for them given that it's not even a "premium" board.

[@randomguy2579]

@@redsymphony7119 Oh that's good to hear. Thanks for the insight!

[@Flare_No]

Couldn't believe how much grunt the 5700x3d gave me over my old 2600. Absolutely monsterous upgrade for how the power it sips to do it!

[@hi-friaudioman]

I have a 5700X3D/4070ti combo and they compliment eachother perfectly, not a bottleneck in sight. Lol

[@degroot50]

This is awesome.................thanx(from NL) Steve for the enormous CPU tests! I got the 9600 now and am really very happy with it. Before I had the 8600G, 5800X, 5600G, 5600X, 3600X, 3200G.

[@engineerlife8175]

GN over here releasing a video right away to get our minds off the disappointing Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson fight.

[@GamersNexus]

hahaha, was it that bad?!

[@Warrior0fDoom]

@@GamersNexus Jake being accused of elder abuse 😅

[@engineerlife8175]

​@@GamersNexusyeah; even the announcers said there was disappointment in the air after the fight.

[@suhcliekdukc1169]

It was just boring yeah, nothing really hgappened

[@GamersNexus]

@@engineerlife8175 ooooof. That's... disappointing.

[@ElvisMcJoins93]

I'd really love to get my hands on a 7800 or 9800x3d, but the prices over here in germany are just insane. 470-480 for the 7800, 540 for the 9800x3d. Sure I lose some peformance, but I decided to upgrade from 8600K to 9700x. That chip is 200€ less and still has good performance overall in gaming & productivity. Still happy about all your work you guys are doing, especially excited about the cases guide!

[@Snxgur]

do not purchase a non X3D chip if you plan on gaming. seriously. i made that mistake and couldbnt believe what i was missing out on

[@EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE1]

​@Snxgur You do not need an X3D for gaming. If you care a lot about your fps, then yes, an X3D can be worth it. But generally people should buy based on their needs.

[@Snxgur]

@ if you care about gaming, an X3D chip is the best investment possible for gaming.

[@ElvisMcJoins93]

​@@Snxgurnot really, when I only play 1440@60. That's definitely not worth the investment of 200€ extra, just for the 1% lows. And even those are well above 60 fps with a 9700x.

[@deepblueskyK]

@@Snxgur The problem is not only the pricing here in Germany. Even the top online store for hardware (Mindfactory) was out of stock within half an hour at launch day and won't be able to deliver the next batch of 9800X3Ds before the end of December. The 7800X3D is insanely overpriced atm as there aren't enough quantites in stock, either.

[@Lock2002ful]

It’s insane how AMD is wiping the floor with Intel. Same with nvidia and AMD. It’s not good for the consumer. Healthy competition is needed.

[@FO0TMinecraftPVP]

We all know he's being paid by amd Intel is better COPE

[@tilapiadave3234]

More insane the way AMD has given up even trying to compete wit Nvidia in GPU's

[@nipa5961]

Sadly, there is less competition than ever. Intel can't even offer working CPUs less than 3 years old. Nvidia only cares about AI and stopped competing in GPUs.

[@tilapiadave3234]

@@nipa5961 Sadly there are almost unending stupid comments

[@nipa5961]

@@tilapiadave3234 Yes, you keep spamming them.

[@kajobluemane]

I love how you still add the 5800X3D into the charts. Another Steve out there could learn from that.

[@BudgetAstro-ba]

Thanks Steve!

[@crazycajunj1703]

Thanks for this.. I am wanting to do a new build and was just wondering where to go with my CPU.. Well now I know!!

[@katbairwell]

I really appreciate that you guys look as use cases beyond gaming. It makes finding components for balanced systems that little bit easier, and I am very grateful for that!

[@jonathanryan9946]

I'm upgrading from an I7-8700 to the 9800x3d, because my I7-8700 is my bottleneck in Space Marine 2 (same 55-62 fps fluctuation on every graphic setting). CPU arrives next week, couldn't be more excited. I love my I7-8700, it has served me great since 2017... but things aren't beautiful because they last forever. Though I'm debating turning that pc into my server for a home security system because Ring has been far below my expectations at night (have an old RTX 2060 I can use for its gpu and keep my current GPU for the 9800x3d) or a retro gaming system. So it might be serving me for many more years to come.

[@bodasactra]

The AM4 5000X3D are still OP, matching the highest end CPUs when using upper mainstream GPUs in gaming. Incredible these parts will still be relevant for years.

[@Ilestun]

Yup, I'm enjoying my 5800x3D with my 4080super, 240hz ultrawide OLED monitor. My x570 motherboard truly delivered more than what I expected when I baught it at launch with a r7 3700x.

[@mytech6779]

The only real thing preventing me from upgrading to a used AM4 machine is the lack of 512bit AVX instructions in any of the CPUs. And we are in a weird used market where people think their middling 2020 build is still worth what they originally paid. They were fool enough to FOMO the shortages and now they don't understand basic depreciation. Seriously I can build equivalent performance systems with new parts for the same price or less than most are asking. (Maybe the used market will correct after the holidays and with the launch of new GPUs) I'm still on a very old platform, but really trying to avoid a halfway step and just stretch a little longer until the next gen CPUs have some solid info leaks (with socket info) before finalizing an upgrade plan. Hopefully DDR6 and PCIe v6 will focus more on signal integrity for mass production products rather than just bigger number better. 5 are fast in ideal conditions but has some serious issues with anything not held to the tightest tolerance. I have also heard AM6 will be using open source Coreboot rather than AGESA and AMD already has AM5 test rigs running Coreboot. (Mostly trivia rather than immediate benefit to me.)

[@Ilestun]

@@mytech6779 AM5 is confirmed to be the plateform for new AMD CPU's till l2027 at least.

[@mytech6779]

​@@Ilestun AMD said that AM5 will be _supported_ until at least 2027, AM4 is still supported and AM5 is already 2 years old. (Now why they won't commit to support times for GPU ROCm? 🤨) However 2026 or early 2027 seems reasonable for AM6 based on the progress of the DDR6 standard and expected first ddr6 production being in late 2025. At any rate I'm not waiting for Zen6 or AM6 releases, I am only waiting forecast information of the next CPU generation so I can plan an upgrade path.

[@kerkertrandov459]

Why are they so overpriced? 7800x3d is almost 500 euro for 8 cores, 9800x3d is 600 euro if u can find it in stock. 7950x3d is 700 euro. My cpu budget is 400 euro and theres nothing good. The 7600x3d is 300 euro and only 6 cores, it's too weak. I dont wanna buy used.

[@nicolasvial3481]

I upgraded from a Ryzen 9 3900XT on my B550 Aorus Master to a 5700X3D. Worthy upgrade on my not latest gen rig, but still premium platform! Very happy with the performance gains. Great to see you gave it the best CPU upgrade award. Reassuring of my choice!

[@importprogram]

At this point the 5700X3D will out last my need to upgrade to AM5, but the 9800X3D is insane and could change my mind in a few years. AM4 though is fantastic for home labs, even when buying used. Ryzen 3000 & 5000 still never blink an eye at the small and big tasks I throw at them.

[@GamersNexus]

Ha! Outlasting to AM6 would be crazy!

[@jondySauce]

I have a 5600X and I'm so tempted to upgrade to an X3D of some sort. But the games I'm playing right now don't really seem to need it

[@bodasactra]

I agree. Most people are on mainstream GPUs that all three 5000X3D parts can easily max out. They should be more than relevant in the mainstream gaming space until AM6, possibly even longer.

[@s4yto]

@@jondySauce man i just upgraded from a 5600x to a 5700x3d and to be honest, i now get the hype for x3d chips, the stability it gives you over non x3d chips is crazy, i used to have a lot of micro stutters and worse 1% lows with my 5600x now its butter smooth, love it

[@NoSpamForYou]

@@GamersNexus AM5 is somewhat failed so far. DDR5 was slow at first. PCIe 5.0 SSDs too hot and power hungry, no PCIe 5.0 gpus yet. AMD should have sped up the DDR4 memory controller and added AVX-512 and put 7000 series on AM4 if it could be done without more pins. They would be launching AM5 and 9800x3D now when DDR5 is finally getting good, 5.0 SSDs will soon be usable and 5.0 GPUs coming out.

[@jubuttib]

3:43 Oh dear, UserBenchmark is going to be so upset with you. Don't you know that the 9800X3D is complete garbage, at least according to them? =)

[@yesilbursa]

who is that

[@awildhampter8570]

@@yesilbursaits a website that has the most obvious bias against amd, dont use them

[@Zarazkowy]

Segments please, we love you Steve.

[@Kawaiilolrofl]

Great video. I wish you went into more detail with the cpus, like Linus tech tips usually do. Still a good CPU roundup!

[@kendil22]

At least the 9800x3d came out to save the 2024 cpu launches considering all the disappointing crap that came out.

[@GamersNexus]

It really did come in clutch at the end here.

[@FO0TMinecraftPVP]

We all know he's being paid by amd Intel is better COPE

[@thingsiplay]

One of the rare channels I can watch in normal speed. I have to speed up video playback for most other channels.

[@MagicManCM]

Upgraded from a Ryzen 5 2600X to a Ryzen 7 5700X3D just a couple months ago, super. Hoping to upgrade my GPU within the next couple months so I can keep this bad boy running for a few more years!

[@s4yto]

if you’re playing in 1440p or 4K you’re good to go for years to come

[@maurogalindez3901]

I did this same CPU upgrade and also jumped from a 2060 msi ventus to a 4080 super asus tuf, went from 2x8 2666 mhz cas 16 ram to 2x16 3600 mhz cas 18 ram and from an asus prime a320 motherboard to an asus tuf b550 plus ii. And to top it all, went from a benq zowie TN panel 27 inch 144 hz full hd monitor to a samsung odyssey g8 OLED 34 inch 175hz 4k one... I'm still waiting on some pieces to arribe and BOY the anxiety is killing me, this is my most high end pc ever. I also believe I probably won't even touch am5

[@unotoli]

Crank resolution to 1440x, step down from 4900 to 4700, and difference between 9800x3d and 5700x3d is gone.

[@EbonKim]

My new 13600K for $150, with a used Z690 and 64GB DDR4 for $90 was the best upgrade ever. I had to drive 3 hours for each, though (Facebook Marketplace).

[@tortoiseknight3228]

Is it safe to buy a 13600 or 14600 because of oxidation?

[@benjaminsmekens2344]

@@tortoiseknight3228 13600(K/KS) is all fine, now the 14600(K/KS) I wouldn't come close to until there is reason to believe that all problems with that CPU have been fixed. It's a shame, but I wouldn't want to waste money on a whole platform, only for it to self incinerate...

[@kilosera]

@@tortoiseknight3228 Nobody knows. Mine 13600kf which is from that "dangerous" period is perfectly fine.

[@tortoiseknight3228]

@@kilosera Really thank you!

[@PJDenton]

I really like this Cpu. 150 brand new, though? I'm jealous x) What cpu did you upgrade from, out of curiosity?

[@ELGlueckert]

Upgraded from an R5 5500 to the R7 5700X3D, I haven't got the PC completely ready yet but I hope it's a decent upgrade.

[@GamersNexus]

That's a killer upgrade!

[@benjaminsmekens2344]

You'll be extremely happy, that's a given

[@danyel5661]

I did the same upgrade 1 week ago and can confirm it's a whole new experience

[@willievstudio]

Great overall video on where the chips fall! I have looked forward to this review year after year, Thanks!!! You guys rock!

[@Fatalxw]

Sure, these high end CPUs sound cool and all, but I couldn't be happier with my 7500f at 1440p.

[@Warrior0fDoom]

It is fantastic and not overpriced

[@stennan]

Balanced builds are based 😊 Will probably build something new next year with a 7600 for my 3440x1440p display.

[@Just_An_Ignacio]

The 7500F is amaxing for the price, but the fact that is an OEM part that you have to buy practically used makes it not fiting for many categories, sadly. Maybe efficient, but there are parts that give much more performance using a little more power.

[@Fatalxw]

@@Just_An_Ignacio No idea what you mean by that. Got mine for 160€ with VAT, insane Price to Performance, almost unmatched.

[@Just_An_Ignacio]

@@Fatalxw because is OEM, it doesn't have an official price, so you won't see it winning budget king. It's really efficient, but the 7800X3D consumes a little more and performs a lot better, so you won't see it win efficiency. It's not the best performer, so it won't win that either, and so on. It's a value dream, but it's condemned to be underrated because the weird of it's nature, like the 7600X3D* and other CPUs.

[@gambino48]

the 5700x3D is by far the best value cpu on the marker and especially in the AM4 gen...obviously there are better AM5 chips but they come at a cost...the 5700x3d is a god send lol in my opinion

[@trueNahobino]

I'm happy with my 13600K but I do sometimes wish I got the 7800X3D instead. It was nearly the same price when I bought my parts and I think I probably would end up getting more out of it than the 13600K since it's still good for stuff like video editing, just not nearly as good. Definitely would be nice to have a cooler system and less stress about the melting issues...

[@tortoiseknight3228]

Is it a good option to buy now even with the oxidation problem?

[@PJDenton]

​​​​​​​@@tortoiseknight3228 This oxydation question mark will remain a risk, and thus makes buying this cpu a gamble. I took that gamble last summer for several reasons, and it turned out to be a very good, capable, and stable cpu, and an excellent gaming companion.

[@PJDenton]

Zxanonblade Hm I did put a negative offset for voltage on mine, to be fully comfortable gaming on it even at the heart of summer. That being said, I was put off from the 7800X3D at the time because there were reports of big cooling issues, in addition to a notable price gap, though you do find positive reports too. Seems varied, too much to my taste. But I do wonder about my choice at times.

[@irlantiisti2810]

If you are using a 2K or 4k monitor, then you have nothing to lose and nothing to gain since the 3D cache is oriented towards low resolutions of 720 and 1080p. 3D cache is too weak to store and transfer large files. It’s somewhat reminiscent of an SSD where there are 2 levels of 3D nand memory 1Tb and 2GB DDR4. The speed in the SSD is achieved thanks to the DDR 4 memory, which is used as a temporary storage cache..

[@trueNahobino]

@@PJDenton I'm just using the microcode and BIOS changes that Intel and ASRock (my mobo) recommended with it. I'm not worried about it anymore, just was a bit stressful back when the issues started.

[@lagginswag]

My 5700X3D from aliexpress got here today, 140$ shipped (129$ before tax). Gonna install it tomorrow on a b450m pro4 r2.0, coming from a 1600af feeding a 5700xt. Stoked 🤘

[@OceanSlim]

I got a 14900k. Updated to latest bios. So I'll let you know next year how it's doing

[@desild5869]

05:43 - Most Balanced Price, Workstation, Gaming You jumped at the 7950X with no mention of AM5's severe CPU-x-chipset bandwidth limitations compared to LGA 1700/1851, something important on workstations that need to use many fast CEM add-ins. For a pure workstation role, I'd definitely go Arrow Lake (maybe 6 months from now, to see if these will cook themselves or not). 1. LGA 1700/1851 is linked to chipset over DMI 4.0 x8 at effectively double the bandwidth AM5 is linked (i.e. PCIe 4.0 x4). 2. LGA 1700 CPU lanes: 16x PCIe 5.0 + 4x PCIe 4.0. // these are lanes hooked directly to the CPU LGA 1700 chipset lanes: 20x PCIe 4.0 + 8x PCIe 3.0. // these are hooked directly to the chipset LGA 1851 CPU lanes: 20x PCIe 5.0 + 4x PCIe 4.0. LGA 1851 chipset lanes: 24x PCIe 4.0. AM5 CPU lanes: 24x PCIe 5.0. AM5 chipset lanes: MAX 12x PCIe 4.0 + MAX 8x PCIe 3.0. IMPORTANT: `MAX` means MB manufacturers have to take away lanes from this count when they want to enable some devices built into the chipset. This is why on AM5 boards you have very few CEM slots and even so, to use all of them you often have to choose some built-in device you want to disable (e.g. SATA controller). If I'm building a gaming PC it's very unlikely I care about chipset lanes but if I'm building a workstation I very much care about it, especially considering the price some high-end MBs have managed to reach and how limited their expandability is, for the price.

[@davevan9150]

A 7600 will do fine for now, x3d can come later when needed.

[@s4yto]

7700x3d my dream

[@magnificentcodpiece4275]

Just got a 7600x for £159 . Seems like a great choice at its current price

[@jebril]

That’s what I did, I mean I just play at 4K Ultra so I dont think I’d see any gains with an X3D processor.

[@JustinHall1976]

As always: thank you, Gamers Nexus. Coming in clutch, as usual.

[@GamingWithMineeToy]

I LOVE my 5950x!!! Upgraded from a 5600X about 2 days ago

[@Snxgur]

why did u purchase a 5950x in 2024 may i ask?...

[@gobbel2000]

I am also considering upgrading my 5800X to a 5950X if its price drops further. More cores!!

[@Snxgur]

@@gobbel2000 no point dude, just get an X3D chip

[@LunarLambda]

Thanks for the video guys! In case anyone is busy/on the go and needs a "can't/didn't watch" list (I wrote it for my girlfriend): Best Overall: 9800X3D (480 USD) Best Balanced (Gaming, Workstation, Price, Efficiency): 7950X (480 USD), runner-up 14900K (440 USD) Best Gaming: 9800X3D Best Upgrade: 5700X3D (AM4, 230 USD), runner-up 14700K (LGA1700, 350 USD) Most Efficient: 7600X3D (300 USD) Best Mid-Range: 12700KF (< 200 USD) Best High-End Desktop: Threadripper 7970X Best Gaming Under $100: 5600, 13100F, 12100F Biggest Disappointment: Intel 13th/14th gen stability issues

[@deima5589]

I made a weird upgrade/downgrade. It depends on how you look at it, but for me, a mostly gamer, upgrading from a 5800X to a 5800X3D was a great decision. I sold the 5800X and don't regret it at all. It's the best CPU ever released for the AM4 platform. The 5800X was really struggling in Cyberpunk, but the X3D gave me the extra performance I needed. I was planning to upgrade to the AM5 platform with a 7600X, but it seems now that I can keep my X570 board and DDR4 kit. This setup should last me a couple more years before I'll need to upgrade to AM5. It might even last until AM6.

[@JETSFAN2017]

I have the 5700x3d and I can’t justify going to AM5 because of it. AM6 maybe though lol

[@deima5589]

@@JETSFAN2017 That-s true, I was considering going to AM5 many times. But after I managed to snatch last 5800x3D for sale. All the want for AM5 just went away :P

[@NoSpamForYou]

Wait for AM6 or value buy in of AM5 as it is clearanced.

[@ryanocallaghan8833]

Very happy with Zen 5 X3D (and on the efficient Windows laptop front, Intel Lunar Lake) redeeming 2024 as an interesting year for CPUs after all. Also glad you have kept Dragon's Dogma 2 in your test suite since launch, as this was definitely my favourite new, recent game having pleasantly surprised me.

[@_dark168]

Hey Steve! Do you plan on reviewing the 9800x3d melted socket "issue" ?

[@GamersNexus]

We'll cover it in some capacity, yes!

[@zedvids]

"Issue" 😂😂😂 that was a hilarious post once it got reviewed more over

[@webbedshadow2601]

Personally I think you guys should have footage of cats in every Games Nexus video, I wouldn't mind it 😁

[@ky_01]

Went from 1500x to 5700x3D on same board 😮‍💨 ooh wee look what that x3D make a bih do

[@chrisblack6258]

Zen 1 to Zen 3 3D! The best path for an AM4 owner. Congrats

[@achinism]

Good job with the cat shelter, appreciate it!

[@ettepet9308]

The 7950x3d wasn’t tested but remains one of the best choices, for gaming and office. Afaik it can mostly beat or equal the 7800x3d when properly configured, and is a beast for office/rendering stuff.

[@mbiondo]

Yes,.I was wondering why the 7950x3d didn't get a mention.....

[@Arcona]

I don't think it ever beats the 7800X3D. It's usually a bit behind cause the 3D V cache is on fewer cores.

[@ettepet9308]

@@Arcona No, it was mentioned it is higher clocked, but has the burden of 2 separate 8-core solutions (hybrid) making it tough to optimize for. Afaik just disabling the extra 8 general-purpose cores in the bios will immediately put it on-par with the 7800x3d (or slightly beyond). This was tested early-on at “Hardware Unboxed” to simulate the then upcoming 7800x3d. If all 16 cores are proficiently used it will mostly beat all previous generation cpu’s in gaming. The 9800x3d however is a step up and (much?) simpeler design.

[@Arcona]

@@ettepet9308 Ah, couldn't you just do it with a thread optimizer then? Auto puts a games threads on the Vcache cores?

[@ettepet9308]

@ It wasn’t as easy as that. There’s several in-depth discussions about it. I seem to recall that disabling in the bios is more effective than software solutions. Might have to do with shared busses between hybrid dies. The new 16-core x3d chip(s) will probably use a more manageable architecture.

[@BentzFilmz]

Really needed an updated video on this, THANK YOU

[@mariochi1499]

Great video! But as someone who is torn between 9800x3D (hard to find at 529 EUR) and 7950x3D (~650 EUR) I have to ask why the 7950x3D is absent from gaming benchmark charts, unless I’m going blind 😅

[@pashabiceps95]

Because it is even worse than 7800x3d in gaming due to multiple ccx, only 1 having 3d cache

[@Jay_the_Caffeinator]

Awesomesauce!! I was going back and forth for the Snowflake dice. But now part is being donated to Cat Angels???? Thanks, Steve!!

[@peterjansen4826]

A pity that the 9950X3D is too late, that CPU would definitely win one of the categories. The best CPU's are quite predictable, the 9800X3D for gaming, Threadripper for production, Intel 14th gen for budget, Ryzen (out of the box the 7800X3D and the 7950X3D but you can take any of those CPU's and set a lower powertarget) for efficiency.

[@Noob2Ever]

Agreed, I've wanted to see the 9950X3D before the end of the year.

[@peterjansen4826]

@@Noob2Ever That and the next AMD-GPU. I need an upgrade (5700 XT) and after it releases I have to wait at least 3-6 more months before the Sapphire Nitro is available in my country without severe pricegouging.

[@GReLLz2497]

Its not often i watch ad segments but these products were so cool i watch the entire segment lol

[@DiegoAguilera]

Where’s the 9950x ????

[@anonymist-n8z]

9800x3d is better

[@sofielee4122]

I'm pretty sure my 5800X3D is one of the last ones they made, and i couldn't be happier with it. the fact that it is still a chart-topper after all this time is super impressive

[@Gavo172]

Aliexpress $120 5700X3D siblings rise up

[@hugobalbino2041]

@@Gavo172 here 🙋

[@lagginswag]

✊️

[@EvanScangas]

Thank you guys. Appreciate your effort putting these together.

[@jackalclone1]

Been rocking AM5 with a 7950x3d on x670e and some solid memory, and I don't think I've ever loved a build I've done as much as this one. With the changes to the 9000 x3d series, I'm really excited to see the headroom with the 9950x3d in terms of overclocking in my custom loop. Might actually do a single generation upgrade for the first time ever if numbers look good (will put the 7950x3d to other use). As a former intel fan for ease of overclocking in the larger nanometer architecture days, AMD has been crushing it lately

[@Arcona]

How come you went for the 7950X3D and not the 7800X3D? You doing big multicore workloads?

[@jackalclone1]

@Arcona yeah, workstation purposes like code compiles and ancillary tooling, as well as video processing. Also, the efficiency of it was a big consideration for being in my custom loop to reduce overall heat in the loop (cramming everything in a Fractal North). And then, the gaming performance being pretty close to the 7800x3d in most cases is just a bonus

[@SammyM00782]

Considering I built this PC late 2019, the 9900k is showing it's age. With tomorrow being Black Friday, I might take a ride to the NJ MicroCenter. My 7900XT is probably being bottlenecked too. Thanks for the comprehensive reviews you do. Happy Thanksgiving GN!

[@HogNewman]

Going from an almost 7 year old 8700k to a 7600x3d for Christmas

[@Min0rus]

I did the same but with the 7800x3d last year when the price was still alright

[@Retro-Iron11]

Monster upgrade. My 13100kf was even a huge upgrade to my old 7700.

[@MacG467_]

I just upgraded from a 6700K to the 7600X3D. Great boost in performance!

[@ZeroPageX]

Love your work! Massively upping my FPS without buying a mobo and RAM!

[@justyours8766]

Again the 5950x which is now cheaper then the 5800x3d is missing..... To explain why I am mad about that: I have a 2700x in my pc and want to upgrade , probably 5800x3d or 5950x, 16 cores I expect to be more and more useful the further we go in the future as of know 5800x3d is king, also all gaming tests are without discord, KZbin browser, Nvidia broadcast and stuff in the background which i assume would favour more then 8 cores ("background bloat")

[@marekschmidt124]

Also, still the best CPU for a 128GiB memory system.

[@Basement-Science]

I think you overestimate the pure CPU usage of background tasks. Realistically they will never even fully load ONE core, and if anything their Memory usage (bandwidth AND capacity) is more significant which doesnt change when having more cores. The better question is, which applications you're running, or WILL be running in the future, can benefit from more cores.

[@justyours8766]

@Basement-Science you might be right here , I am just curious for actual testing, especially comparative tests with a high background load. Also does the 5800x3d Vs. The 5950x (which is cheaper in Germany) really make a difference when you have a 4070ti in 4k? - I know these tests are to see which CPU brings most FPS in Ideal conditions, but I very rarely play a game and have everything else closed and my 2700x is around 60% to 80% of it's maximum sometimes already (especially spacemarine 2 or the division 2). Question is also better invest in a 7900xt (currently running a 3060ti) or in a new CPU ? As with my 2700x I want to run this CPU for 6+years usually. My i7 860 before (running at 870 clocks) lastet 10years

[@xnitropunkx]

Thank you for providing us with some great data. Thanks Steve & GN team

[@samisonline99]

dear @AMD can we have a Threadripper with 3d v-cache.... before GTA 6?

[@djlim4612]

I am pretty sure they could do it, but would you buy it in rl to justify their investment?

[@Basement-Science]

Pretty sure the 9950x3D will be much more reasonable than this potential threadripper for those sorts of applications, and more affordable. Threadrippers come with a ton of cache anyway simply because each core has its own.

[@Pedroebut]

This is a lifesaver, i've been following since i built my first PC, and now is my first time looking into upgrading it.

[@Zan_Jayna]

My favorite new category is 'Doesn't Burst Into Flames'

[@Ladco77]

Thank you for all the work your team puts in on these reviews.

[@decree72]

13600k gang, think it will be good for some more years

[@Snxgur]

you really should of purchased a 5800x3D instead damn. intel just gets blown so hard in gaming by amd x3d

[@danielxiansecretario127]

Thanks for giving us your ideas and the results of your experiments. It really helps us. 👍

[@hi_im_crimson]

0:39 I can see some bent pins... D:

[@thealien_ali3382]

CAN I DO U at 5GHZ 4K..

[@ricardonegrete4172]

ME and the other 4 persons who bought the 7950X3D feel completely alienated lol

[@fledintegral2859]

How on the other side of the world have I managed to see this 1 minute after release (Australian)

[@jeffb.6642]

It's probably middle of the day in AUS right now, whereas it's middle of the night in the US lol

[@fledintegral2859]

@ yeah it’s early evening right now

[@jeffb.6642]

@@fledintegral2859 2:20 AM here. Damn insomnia

[@stennan]

Me waking up in Sweden: ohh time to fry some egg and bacon, this is going to be good 😋

[@antoniomarbez3967]

Great video guys!! Always to the point, objective and most importantly, honest. Also, great comment about what Black Friday really means.

[@Antykain]

I'm out here still running a i9-9900k in my intel rig. New AMD rig is currently in the works.. which was previously a Ryzen 7 3800x. Good times..

[@christophermullins7163]

9900k still games like entry level CPU today at least. Would push a 3080 at 1440p

[@GabrielRodrigues-fg6ex]

I'm on a 10850k and it's weird: in my head it still feels "new". Would love to go crazy on an AMD system now, but given the prices around here, I really can't do that rationally lol.

[@Snxgur]

9800 or 7800x3D will give you insane performance with ddr5 compared to ur crap i9 lol

[@bmwofboganville456]

@@SnxgurNo it wouldn't

[@Snxgur]

@@bmwofboganville456 wtf??? are u insane. you would probably doube your fps in some games. i went from an 11900k to 7800x3D and my fps trippled in 1080p on MMOs

[@abaj006]

Great review, and love your Equivalent Gaming Performance Chart.

[@yasuchika]

The 7500f is a hidden budget banger if you can find it, it's basically the AM5 7600 with without an iGPU at a 50 buck discount.

[@OseghaleIghalo]

sometimes even more. got mine for $115. absolutely insane deal

[@Nick_R_]

I find myself in broad agreement with all your awards. I'm happy that you still feature the old Ryzen 2600 in the charts, not because I own one, but because its performance is so close to an old Xeon I've just built a budget PC around. And I'm happy that my Ryzen 5800x3D still scores so well. Obviously I'm unhappy that the fx8350 (I run mine as if it's a 9370) is nowhere to be seen. ;-)

[@Effect-Without-Cause]

7500F > 7600 in value imo

[@PlantainSupernova]

These best hardware and the disappointment build are my fave yearly videos from you guys.

[@evilSapphie]

The disappointment build is gonna be spoiled for choice on the cpu front this year, can't wait!

[@brondster47]

Thank you for your yearly roundup- i'm so glad last year i followed the trend and got a 5800x3d, a absolute powerhouse still for the AM4 definitely do not need to upgrade til around 2029/2030 at least..... (depends upon what CPU speeds are the norm then )

[@greelow]

Where is 7950X3D ?😢