XFX RX 590 Fatboy Tear-Down & Design Critique

[@GamersNexus]

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[@knifeyonline]

It doesn't have to be that fat compared to other cards to earn the name fatboy.... wouldn't it make sense to you if they said it was the fattest RX card they've made? It doesn't seem that dumb to me.... I like it.

[@knifeyonline]

please test replacing the stainless steal plate with a thermal pad or something? I would love to see the results, to see if you could get better thermals.

[@DanDishonored]

@@knifeyonline steel plate is better for memory to hold its stable temperatures. Memory will not overheat, but also will not be cooler than needs to be. Memory will have longer life span with this solution.

[@scottstamm7022]

Do the RX 590 and RX 580 have the exact same size/footprint? I want to purchase a water cooler for the RX 590 I just purchased. If they're the same, then I can just get a RX 580 water cooler, else I have to wait for a RX 590 to be made. Thanks in advance!

[@urbietorbi4114]

dude, stainless steel is not magnetic. this is a piece of steel . polished or nickel coated . the only magnetic stainless steel , is the martensitic one . but no reason because expensive . mostly used in the oil industrie. regards .

[@MonsterSound.Bradley]

Technically you didn't remove the sticker. You removed the screw and put a hole in the sticker.

[@Bassalicious]

Point MonsterSound

[@scottstamm7022]

My wife is a lawyer, I've had to deal with arguments of this nature. What you have said is 100% true! The sticker was NOT removed.

[@claritoresdiano1021]

@@scottstamm7022 hahaha... funy to hear that.

[@cowpker4life333]

ez win

[@AmaraTheBarbarian]

Doesn't matter in the US market anyway they can't void your warranty for removing the sticker, and I confirmed with xfx when I did a TIM swap on my RX 580 that they wouldn't consider it an issue at all if I were to do so, which I did. Not sure about anyone else's experience but my TIM was either low quality or had terrible application, meaning constant fan spin even when idle, but Kryonaut fixes that right up.

[@-eMpTy-]

Missed marketing opportunity by not naming it _THICCBOI_

[@InvntdXNEWROMAN]

WHERE IS THE THICCGURL MERCH?!!!!

[@Atilolzz]

EXTRA THICC BOYO

[@MrMike7332]

That should be reserved for the company that makes a quad slot card.

[@meledyne5059]

someone say T H I C C? BUY BUY BUY $$$$

[@AlexanderVonMalachi]

Should've called it "The Unit"

[@TechDeals]

Will I get in trouble if I point out that Fat Boy is a Harley and Fat Man was the nuke?

[@PieSplatter177]

glad somewhat pointed it out LOL

[@PainterVierax]

Fatman : Nagasaki Littleboy : Hiroshima Fatboyslim : Norman Cook

[@Dracossaint]

Ohhhhh XD, Ty

[@andymath89]

not at all! LOL

[@phodder]

They should've called it the "Littleman"

[@HowdyFolksGaming]

The savagery over that “Void if Removed” sticker was so satisfying 👌🏻

[@louis.bodota]

Fat Boi af

[@n00bfishie]

I think I’ll wait for the RX 595 BBW edition.

[@titan_fx]

I'm waiting for XFX RX 590X XXX edition 😂

[@jpfidalgo7]

BBW- Big Bad Wanker? XD

[@stevenwest1494]

Big Black Willy?

[@pimpindogg666]

I'll be waiting for the rx 599 ssbbw

[@Bassalicious]

Big Boobs Wobbling?

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

IR35217 is only on AMD VEGA cards and now 590s. It's not used on mobos. Mobos run the 35201 Stainless steel might be bad but thermal pad is worse in thermal transfer. I'd try putting TIM between the steel and the aluminum to improve the thermal transfer.

[@Nikkeftw]

What does that mean?

[@cybercat1531]

@@Nikkeftw It's buildzoid speak. I'll try and translate. Roughly it should be: "Good. Meh. Change this thing." I hope I got that right. :P

[@mbe102]

And this is why Buildzoid does the PCB breakdowns ;P. Still love ya Tech Jesus Steven Nexus (don't know if thats Steve's last name, but, it should be!).

[@v3xx3r]

@@mbe102 his last name is burke

[@2muchjpop]

@@mbe102 pretty sure it's Steve Burke

[@jkay9793]

The bombs were code-named "Fat Man" and "Little Boy" not Fatboy... Maybe it's named for a Harley-Davidson softail or the 80's Hip hop group.

[@Tallnerdyguy]

Or hybrid...or a reference to fallout game series

[@daltonv5206]

Yep. I first thought of the Harley. Overpriced, underpowered and loud

[@WraithWTF]

I think there's a mini-nuke launcher in one of the Fallout games that's called the Fatboy, they might've been referencing that

[@ibrohiem]

There's also a brand of ice cream sandwich that's double thickness called Fatboy.

[@1stfloorguy59]

@@ibrohiem there is a hoagie from a food truck in Pennsylvania called a fatbitch it's so tasty...

[@Leonartist]

I removed the backplate on the 580 version of this card and my max temperature dropped by 8C. I reapplied thermal paste too though.

[@Ancalagon0202]

Gracias. Donde vivo hace calor y la verdad viene bien bajarle la temperatura. En verano voy a hacerle mantenimiento y voy a probarla sin backplate.

[@Mynx31]

I can hardly wait for the XFX RX 595 Fuckboy.

[@enlightendbel]

+Gamers Nexus Did you check if that plate is steel? Nickel is a feromagnetic material. It's rated at 90W/(m K). Where do you get the 70W/(m K) for stainless steel? My charts (and every online source I double checked with) show stainless steel at 16W/(m K). It would make no sense at all to use steel of any kind in that part of a cooler design. It would make some sense to use Nickel, it's dirty cheap and has acceptable thermal conductivity.

[@tedeby5351]

Nickel isn't dirt cheap, it's about twice as expensive as copper.

[@enlightendbel]

@@tedeby5351 sure, throw away any context and pretend you give a smart(ass) response. It's a $0.2-$0.4 piece of metal, it's dirt cheap and a good cooling solution.

[@tedeby5351]

@@enlightendbel Go look up prices for nickel sheet and steel sheet. Im seeing roughly $12 for a 100mmx100mm nickel sheet, where the same size steel plate is next to nothing. Granted at manufacturing scale you can get the price down, but that's still ridiculously expensive. You arent going to find consumer products made out of nickel sheet, it's too damn expensive.

[@lefunnyman9039]

Metal wars.

[@czdaniel1]

+Enlightendbel -- Love it when you's talking _Sexy Thermals!_ Find it absolutely _radiating!!_

[@declangallagher1448]

Larger than a two slot card for no valid reason... -.- GG XFX

[@hellblazer275]

Wouldn't be too smart for marketing to reuse the 480gtr cooler AGAIN I know its great but meh

[@JackPecker911]

XFX sucks, I've bought 2 cards from them and they both failed within the first year. Then we went through a lovely period of RMA hell, where I never got a working card back. Don't buy XFX. pick any other brand and save yourself the trouble.

[@mauriceh7558]

@@JackPecker911 and i never had a problem with xfx going back to gtx 275 so what are you crying about? i had 2 asus doa's does that make asus shit? you boys...

[@mauriceh7558]

Yeah no valid reason other than it being one of the first 590s I FUCKING LOVE IT when people pretend to know better than manufacturers

[@JackPecker911]

From my viewpoint as a customer, there are no redeeming factors to XFX and the way they treat their customers when something does go wrong. They've been lazy with their designs ever since the mid 2000's and seems like they have not learned a single thing since then. Sure it can be possible that you get a doa from any manufacturer, but I've always had a replacement delivered asap and the problem has been taken care of..... except for the XFX guys

[@tee_es_bee]

Your hard work is appreciated. Thank you for the continued great content!

[@davidossst1149]

Thanks a lot. Thank to you i just did something so cool that i need to share this. For more than 1 year i used 2 xfx rx590 fatboy in my pc's. There was always the overheating problem . Under load temps was always 80-85 C. And suddenly I found your film. I saw this plate before but never got the idea that this is not a copper or aluminium. I decided to buy copper sheet and make this element on my own. and this works beautifully . Its throttle down the temperatures to 74 C on maximum load. Its beautiful . No more black screen or driver failures

[@dzicsenpai5284]

i know this comment is 8 months old bur i hope you see it. I have a rx 590 and my screen turns black randomly (but mostly under load) the pc works i can even hear the discord chat its just that the gpu stops working and a (no signal) appers on the screen. Did you have the same problem and did that fix it for you?

[@davidossst1149]

​@@dzicsenpai5284 Exactly the same and yes you can fix it as well. Just buy copper sheet and a good thermopad. After some work with file for metal an couple of holes, you will be very happy with your gpu again. :-)

[@maximoxtech1125]

@@dzicsenpai5284 did you open yours? Because mine Underload 41c Max 74c

[@dzicsenpai5284]

@@maximoxtech1125 no, just removed side panel of my pc for more airflow

[@rixzin5046]

@@dzicsenpai5284 undervolt your gpu and create a fan curve. Xfx stock curve is terrible and Polaris undervolt really good

[@Benepene]

Why didn’t XFX stick to the slick Hd 7000 series design it was soo clean and simplistic , instead we have something hideous that rivals gigabyte and msi‘s designs

[@jpfidalgo7]

Yup, cooler was not so amazing in performance but it looked beautiful. Still rocking a 7870 on my old sandy bridge i5... this reminds me I should change the thermal paste on it... well thanks :D

[@darknespker]

I loved their 7000 series coolers. I bought a 7770 specifically for that brushed metal with red sides - it looked so clean and understated.

[@parsastrife6629]

Even the RX 480 GTR was better design than this ugly shit

[@AlexanderVonMalachi]

R9 2** design was also really good. Honestly, I liked it more than HD 7***

[@Benepene]

@@AlexanderVonMalachi Actually youre right just googled it, they are looking a bit better

[@MunkeyChips]

I find it disappointing that there aren't more CUs. Only being a 480 overclocked for the 2nd time doesn't seem like it should qualify as being a x90 card.

[@Deliverygirl]

Agreed, I thought it would be a dual-GPU in a single PCB design, like the x990 cards of old.

[@antraxbeta23]

it doesn't matter if they give t more CU's , it is so memory bandwith starved is silly

[@WiiNV]

Seems like 40CU Polaris is reserved solely for XBOX Scorpio!

[@MunkeyChips]

@@WiiNV Right, AMD obviously has produced Polaris GPUs with higher CU counts. Maybe the process doesn't have strong enough yields to effectively roll out a die with more CUs. PS: Although... xX_Bone_Xx actually has more CUs than it needs so they can shut off some, and this increases yields. IDK why they couldn't do something similar for the 590... :/

[@rustyshackleford5668]

At least the game deals are pretty fuckin good

[@djmandrick]

Fatboy - That's a pretty ballsy marketing name in this day and age. A total lack of body positivity whilst doubling down by assuming the card's gender? Someone somewhere on Twitter is going to be massively offended. Calling it.

[@jukahri]

Or maybe not everybody lives in your hyperbolic circlejerk that thinks pink-haired tumblr extremists tule the whole world somehow

[@stevenwest1494]

Assuming a gender to card, 😂

[@kumbandit]

Lol :D

[@tskraj3190]

That's True it may be suffering from gender identity issues and forcing it's male part into a female expansion slot might make it worse for the card's self esteem.

[@ovofox1115]

Bruh

[@kostasbezaitis2695]

"Fatboy" is not dumb..Just like fat being essentially useless but takes more space, this card's exoskeleton does the same.

[@kumbandit]

Would like to see you fight a sumo with that attitude :D :D :D

[@AlbertoMartinez765]

MMM fat is not useless it's how your body stores energy if you had Zero fat..you would be DEAD....) Too Much fat is the problem not that it exists...)

[@kuromurasaki5273]

@@AlbertoMartinez765 some people do run their bodies at

[@MarikHavair]

@@kuromurasaki5273 No 2-5% body fat is absolutely essential for maintaining health and reproductive function for men, 5 down isn't sustainable for the male body, the lower limit for women doesn't dip below 10.

[@kuromurasaki5273]

@@MarikHavair 1% body fat male here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpO5XnmEnteIiqc 3% body fat female here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJKap61-rtaGjs0 now, you assume all people want a functioning reproductive system ... some people just don't care ... not just ejaculation but about intercourse in general. Your assumption is that people would give two shits, but they are either so dedicated or vain, or both that a that point, I don't think they are thinking about FUCKING as much as you might. now that I did a quick search for you, instead of you just spouting your head canon, would you kindly fuck off with your assumptions and bring reality next time? p.s. let us see your body and determine who is more healtful, the 1 and 3% bodyfat people or you. Tell them to their face they are unhealthy, then go look at any video of the streets of 1st world countries and tell them that the chubby and fat people are far more healthful than they are :D

[@gavinw8835]

People are saying the 590 is "disappointing" or "boring" but considering the 580 is the best midrange card right now, this is nothing but good for people like me, who are looking to pick up a used 580 or something similar.

[@hurrdurrimaburr]

The best midrange card? AMD drones truly are deluded.

[@TheGravityChannel]

@@hurrdurrimaburr Dude the 580 is great for 1080p gaming on a budged, i don't even know what you are aboud.

[@chaoticneutral393]

@@hurrdurrimaburr So what is the best midrange card according to your straight mind? GTX 1070? LOL

[@hurrdurrimaburr]

@@TheGravityChannel I didn't say that it was a bad card. But calling it THE BEST midrange card, is a joke. The 1070 has alot more going for it. But hey, if you can't afford to spend $100 extra maybe you'll make do with the 580.

[@sanjiyoung1433]

@@hurrdurrimaburr Well if you look at it that way, you can put another 100 on top of that 1070 and you'll get a 1080, and another 100 on that 1080 you'll have a 1080ti..

[@RepsUp100]

Fat shaming GPU lol

[@tonye8746]

If you start a ticket with XFX asking about the warranty and modifying it (to water cool the part or put an aftermarket cooler, or even just change thermal paste), they are perfectly fine with it. They just tell you to return it back to as-manufactured condition before you send it back for warranty. So just preserve the original thermal pads and the cooler as you do your mods, and keep the cooler tucked away for returning it back to stock form and you are good with modifying the cards. I got this tip a while back and it is why I bought an XFX reference card so I could do my mods to the cooling prior to aftermarket versions coming later. The mod allows it to fit my specific use case :)

[@alrecks619]

XFX seems to be really stepped up the game after you guys criticized this and the 5700XT THICC III

[@uniwasamistake6334]

Not for sale in japan I guess

[@-eMpTy-]

정지호 Maybe they'll rename it to the XFX fugō haha

[@JimmyRJump]

The bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki wer Fat Man and Little Boy... Not Fat Boy. Harley Davidson have models called Fatboy, however.

[@sssesoj]

arigatou

[@JimmyRJump]

@nathan alan That the GPU wll probably overheat because too thin...

[@exvils]

import from china

[@MalleusSemperVictor]

Protip if you drop a bit of alcohol into a small connector like the one here for the fans it will loosen it and it will dry out by the time you put the connector back in. No muss, no fuss.

[@Iamkitkatbar]

590x2 when

[@Shieftain]

They could totally do it too. The card performs about 3-4% slower than an RX580 when undervolted, but will consume only 146 watts. So AMD could tune the voltages and clocks and slap two of these on one PCB, and just do a limited run of these cards since not many people will be buying these.

[@Peterraawwrr]

@@Shieftain Good idea in theory but let's be honest, dual-GPU setups are dying with 2 separate cards, let alone 2 on one board.

[@Shieftain]

@@Peterraawwrr Yeah, which is why I said limited run. Alternatively they could've also maybe made 4GB versions of this card and optimize the frequencies and voltages for max efficiency, and sell it as an RX575 or something.

[@Peterraawwrr]

@@Shieftain I personally think it should be called a 585. They did something similar with the R9 2xx series. And I still don't see the point in the X2 version, all that R&D for a limited run? Surely a dual Vega or something would be much better use of resources.

[@robertrhoads6248]

Jackson Banks Vega 64 x2 with blower style design and you can use the backside of your rig to plasma weld.

[@jamesberkhimer5751]

1. The back plate is for structural support 2. The toggle switch is for different bios setting its a duel bios card one setting is overclock the The other is for non overclock functions, by default its in overclock. Miners like duel bios cards because they can turn the overclock off we call it computation mode great for seti@home, crypto, and other shared computing projects. 3. The choice of material and configuration of the cooler has gone through R/D and exceeds what the components needs memory chips don't get that hot compared to the mosfets and GPU so STEEL is fine true stainless steel is non magnetic. 4. Gaming is like a racing your ramping up components to high heat and high stresses for a short period of time while shared computing is like driving from coast to coast non stop which will have the cards live longer especially when you turn overclocking off and have the fans at 100% I've used rx580xxx oc+ cards for more than 4 years and only had to replace the fans and the PSU they out lived my PSU, processor, and mainboard

[@aranguis]

How about replace the metal/steel thing, of thermal pad's, for one "hand made" of copper or aluminum!?

[@joshuavlad1980]

yep. that would be great

[@broz666]

Potentially the steel plate works as a means to control the amount of heat dumped by the memory into the cooler thus prioritizing the GPU and VRM

[@rkerto]

what are you saying

[@xavierlim3870]

This card takes up 2.5 slots The Nitro+ only takes 2 slots yet it gets lower temps.

[@cabbytabby7415]

Ive gotta give you boys at Nexus some mad props for uploading 4k and down at 60 fps, so many do not and it provides a much more enjoyable viewing experience.

[@NBFaded2497]

Sticker: "Do not remove. I'm a virgin." Steve: *licks lips*

[@ragingmonk6080]

I had contacted XFX before changing thermal compound on an RX 480 GTR. They told me via email that all the cards have the sticker but it does not apply to American consumers. It will not void warranty. I have a Sapphire Vega and it does not get hot so I have not contacted them to see if they will still honor warranty if sticker is broken.

[@EMMX39]

I'd love to see results for replacing the steel plate on ram modules by a copper plate :D

[@andrewesquivel]

Really rocking the tech Jesus look in the sponsor spot 👌

[@karanvora2674]

More than 70 percent gpus out there are low to midrange, amd is actually playing very well in this market and after seeing the rtx benchmark of bf 5 it actually makes sense why amd decide not to go for real time Ray tracing.

[@-eMpTy-]

10 years of development just to saw the fps in half by enabling raytracing.

[@karanvora2674]

@@-eMpTy- rip to those who pay 1500 for preorder plus bf 5 Ray tracing reflections are not even visible during intense scenes

[@WiiNV]

@@karanvora2674 PCworld's live stream had no player reflections even when standing directly in front of a window! Sights also made flames disappear. L😂L

[@hurrdurrimaburr]

@@WiiNV That's without ray tracing. Using regular rasterization tech. Enabling DXR removes that. The same thing happens when you look at any reflection without DXR enabled. @Karan Vora they are trying to go for ray tracing. But they can't since they are unable to compete at the high end market. They're gearing towards it none the less since it is the future of game development. @smoked_out Not sure you realise how big of an achievement this is.

[@tobiassteindl2308]

@ UHD Gaming PC Its Not that AMD doesn't do anything for realtime raytraciging. Radeon Rays exists longer than RTX, it's just used for professional applications where, in contrast to gaming, realtime raytracing make sense right now.

[@ModernGeekReview]

Love to see the next video on AMD RX 590 mod cooling!

[@Skylancer727]

Cyber Jesus and his crown of PSU cables.

[@mancavegamingandgardening9901]

Someone find me a decent screencap so I can make Tech Jesus my desktop background

[@CaveyMoth]

Thou shalt buy this PSU.

[@dycedargselderbrother5353]

He suffers for our heatsink fins.

[@excalibur3311]

Can't wait for XFX to also release the ITX version of this 590. The 'XFX RX 590 Slimboy'!

[@Najvalsa]

The RX P H A T B O Y E

[@nextlifeonearth]

Back plates are sometimes meant for the card's rigidity. It might still be functional, just not the way you imagine.

[@krymz1]

"won't get stuck in your hair when building your computer" lol

[@bigdaddymatty4804]

I'm sure it's been said, but being the stickler for history that I am... The nukes we dropped were named Fat Man and Little Boy respectively. Also, being slightly portly myself, literally screaming rn frfr. Keep up the good work!

[@georgeg.1066]

The nuke's name is "Fat MAN". Not "Fat Boy".

[@nolategame6367]

George G. Well, Fat man and Little Boy, I guess they fused the two together then

[@BotchedGod]

tech jesus has a modular cable crown, so fitting lmao much love Steve and GN

[@t4iga121]

0:25 should have said 'isn't even all that fat, ... boy!' Ayy, lmao

[@bigbenisdaman]

So, it's a a580, that's a 480, that's same performance as the 390...which was the same as the 290x....dang, AMD has mastered the re-branding.

[@james2042]

290 to 390 was a refresh, Polaris was a new arch that brought the price way down for the same performance. 580 was rebrand with an oc, the 590 is to the 580 as a 2700x is to an 1800x

[@james2042]

Also nvidia just opts to downgrade their cards and keep the same name, but dont slap them for it

[@bigbenisdaman]

@@james2042 Never said otherwise, just has same performance. 290x/390 was a rebrand, as the 480/580/590 is a rebrand. The 480 had less processors than the 290x/390, and performed the same (though couldn't overclock for the most part).

[@czdaniel1]

@@james2042 -- U go _well actually_ to a guy telling a joke. This reminds me of the episode of Star Trek about trying to teach robots about what humor is -- Nah, I'm bullshitting. Liked both y'alls comments

[@MazeFrame]

The steel part: It would have to be a fairly high iron content stainless (if stainless at all) for it to be as magnetic as it is. I expect stamping a steel part is simple/cheap and has better heat transfer than a 4mm thermal pad. I like the massive heatpipes.

[@Kalyptic]

So is it worth Updating from a R9 390? or nah?

[@gojiraforbreakfast]

I would say so. My RX 580 out performs my R9 390 and is so much better on temps

[@Kalyptic]

@@gojiraforbreakfast Out performs it by what percentage? And is that percentage worth $300? That's my real question.

[@jordanlewis3790]

Probably not. You would be better off pi king up a used 980ti anyway

[@InvntdXNEWROMAN]

nah, wait for next gen gpus.

[@Kalyptic]

Thanks for the reply doods!

[@shawnmccori]

The steel plate is for electrical resistance to help prevent shorting or cross communication between components.

[@Morpheus776]

XFX is good. i have xfx rx 480 and im very happy with it

[@gabrielst527]

Nope, keep away from this design (maybe it's good in other models but in rx 580 and 590 it sucks) a lot of coil whine, bad heatsink, A LOT of noise of the "silent" fans and awful design, you are much better with a Sapphire Nitro card.

[@Dojinshiii]

Seems like Steve is pretty well-versed in thermo-dynamics after all these years of looking at cards.

[@lowbuckpc2940]

Is the RX 590 bios flash-able to a RX 580?????? Buildzoid? Der8auer? Kingpin?

[@JCG00]

@@hoffer_moment AMD cards are hardly used in scams lol

[@dycedargselderbrother5353]

At least he'd be using a similar card. I think some of the Nvidia scams are Direct X 10 cards, lol.

[@cptmario]

Reported

[@stryk187]

Give a raise to whoever came up with the idea to have Steve wear a crown of thorns made of power supply cables. so good.

[@account0199]

Why don't you call it the "Fatboy Slim" then?

[@account0199]

Also, i think the steel plate is for the second 3 memory module row, because they sit right below the aluminium fins, not the aluminium block and they made the plate touch all modules to make the stress equal across the entire bank.

[@misterxzxc7314]

@@account0199 fatboy extra fat

[@vdub5818]

I'm sure you are aware of this but angled needle nose pliers, wether 45° or 90°, really help with removing small electrical connectors like that. Crucial with small connectors on cars where all sorts of dirt/debris/grime can get into the connector and lock it solid. Pulled way too many wires out of connectors before I started using either application specific pullers or just angled plain needle noses in random situations. Keep up the great work tech truth Jesus.

[@prich0382]

I still 100% disagree that it's a 590, it's just a overclocked 580, should of been called 580X or whatever

[@rustyshackleford5668]

I'm pretty sure the 580X already exists lol

[@prich0382]

@@rustyshackleford5668 Nope, the only reference to it is this page www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/radeon-rx-580x, but there isn't much info on it, specs are same as a page for 580. No idea what it is, maybe was for laptops but just searching for 580X comes up with very little. i did find this, but it isn't a new card what it's talking about www.extremetech.com/gaming/267349-amds-new-rx-500x-gpus-are-oem-rebrands-not-new-cards

[@rustyshackleford5668]

@@prich0382 The 580X kinda already exists though and Steve brought it up a while back

[@prich0382]

@@rustyshackleford5668 It is a 580, just rebranded, I mean a real proper 580X, or fucking their own version of Nvidia "Ti" branding, you fucking know what I mean. the specs do not make it a whole new tier of the card in any way, sure it's clocks are better then what you can get when overclocking a 580 but still, not worth the new name, should of had 2816 cores or something like as Microsoft when developing the XBOX ONE X asked AMD for help so AMD took the shelved 590 concepts, modified it and gave it to Microsoft and then they disabled 256 cores for better yields

[@Pheonix560]

The 590 has a lower manufacturing process than 580 (12nm vs 14nm) yet it has the same architecture. Yes, it’s a different card.

[@ChozoSR388]

My god, they didn't even bother to put any kind of thermal interface between that steel bracket and thee heat sink!

[@vg4902]

They should have just gone full cringe and went with PHatboy.

[@wiryantirta]

PHATBOYE

[@wakeup5998]

THICCCBOI

[@maxmustsleep]

0:50 is why i watch this ad voluntarily every time and sometimes even twice or thrice :D

[@idkthetime]

By the looks of the cooler, the only Fatboy will be your wallet... If you don't buy that card.

[@fishmonkeyfrog9003]

Great name, really shows the professionalism.

[@jokalee]

They should call it the RX 580 Ti

[@kennyd7667]

Or the RX 580X

[@claritoresdiano1021]

@@kennyd7667 RX 580X It was released first on Q2 2018.

[@EVPointMaster]

it doesn't have more CU though. Ti cards have more CUDA cores at least

[@nolategame6367]

Just make it 585

[@curbthepain]

Traded my 1070 for this card because of compatibility plus it aged pretty well. I also get 100 bucks for the trade but eh I barely notice a difference with a few exceptions for very few titles.

[@rixzin5046]

A little undervolt to get lower temps and power usage is great for Polaris cards

[@TSHBuddahead]

The nukes were called Fat Man & Little Boy

[@Guitarocker493]

So it's both.

[@Alexinnj]

@@Guitarocker493 no it's named after a motorcycle

[@nic_s5215]

I have a XFX 590 and although the GPU it self does not overheat, something on the card does and causes my entire system to crash. Only when gaming though. Running a FurMark test does not cause it to crash, only gaming. I did notice that gaming pulls more watts than FurMark according to Hardware Monitor. On a open test bench it seems to run and work fine, but inside a closed case... like people in the real world would use it, something on the card overheats. Even if I override the fans to 100%... eventually... crash. The retailer I bought the card from had it on a open bench and it was fine. They didn't even have a case to test it in. They have a case now and will test it next week. Now, I can pull my card apart and replace that crap plate with a copper one to see if that helps, but that will void the warranty. In South Africa void warranty stickers kinda screw you if you brake them. This is a great video and in doing research on my card and finding your vids I have learned a lot. Thanks and keep it up.

[@user78405]

i tell you why steve...ITS XFX ...a company has history bad practice of RMA CARDS and they are from CHICAGO....good thing NVIDIA ditch them since GF6800 days..and you only see them in retail stores like BEST BUY or Walmart

[@Guitarocker493]

Why ARE you capitalising RANDOM words.

[@NoBodysGamer]

You can improve cooling by applying thermal paste below the VRAM steel contact plate and applying thick thermal-pad on the whole backside of the video card touching the back-plate. And of course replacing the GPU die thermal paste with liquid metal. These three small changes will improve overclockability OR silence depending on what you want more

[@pandabuttonftw745]

More trash from XFX. They used to make really nice coolers, this gen... i don't think even they know what they are doing.

[@zontarr22-zon]

Excalis Ogre lord , did you ever used any of their products or just assume ?

[@pandabuttonftw745]

@@zontarr22-zon Yes i have used XFX, not that this really matters when you can quite clearly see all the intricate details of thi cooler from the video.

[@wipje41]

Jezus christ those ads arte getting better and better

[@BBKing-yh3gn]

One thic boy!

[@hessen3061]

shut the fuck up

[@FodrMichalych]

T H I C C

[@YashAtishay]

at 14:39, the mounting thingie could be nickel, which also happens to be magnetic just like iron but is a much better conductor of heat

[@joesaiditstrue]

XFX is such a garbage company

[@zontarr22-zon]

joesaiditstrue, really? Did you own any XFX products?

[@EldenLord.]

@@zontarr22-zon Dude, just watch the video

[@zontarr22-zon]

@@EldenLord. , ok dude , what's the video got to do with OP saying that XFX is "garbage company"?

[@EldenLord.]

​@@zontarr22-zon You must be blind then.

[@apollion888]

Dude, just want to say how much I enjoy these :-)

[@svenstereo8461]

The vram runs hot, but not because the plate is steel. The steel plate was stamped on the wrong side, leaving a raised edge that prevents it from making proper contact with the block. Removing the raised edge with some sandpaper or a file (as well as adding a dab of thermal paste) lowers vram temps considerably.

[@BenQuigley]

The alu block is extruded and then sliced, you can see the cut marks. The plate you see added is to expand the reach of the cooler. It helps to reduce cost as machining time is expensive.

[@TheCyru5]

I'm glad to see Xfx getting some press.

[@pixhn]

Does anyone know how thick the thermal pads used in this graphics card are?

[@EricErnst]

14:35 stainless isn't magnetic either. Shouldn't be. Very low grades of stainless can be. 18:39 if thicker thermal pads were used directly on the aluminum/ copper materials, could they transfer heat to the memory instead of away? Maybe the steel bracket is used as a buffer to slow heat conductivity between the heat pipes and the memory.

[@sunsinger970]

Techjesus has a crown now. We must all bow before our king

[@Doom2pro]

Also, adding some paste between the memory plate and the cooler will help greatly.

[@AlexanderVonMalachi]

Who else misses the XFX HD 7***/ R9* 2** cooler design? That shit was great. Matte aluminium look or that serious black look.

[@PhortyZips]

I watercooled the Visiontek Rx590 yesterday and running 51C under full load from 78C.. pleased.. maybe the first to do it as well

[@92greenz34]

@14:00 perhaps nickel? It is magnetic. High quality stainless steel is not. Great video as always gn

[@jpfidalgo7]

On the extra steel plate, several reasons for that: 1-if the aluminium block is extruded an then cut to length it could be a re-use of the extrusion mold from previous designs so that they save money on making a new mold 2-for avoiding the crushing is almost plausible but in the opposite way (having a gap), specially if there is a significant difference in height from the GPU silicon and the memory modules, in which case the memory modules would be thinner and then require something more to compensate for the height difference and having actual contact from the thermal pad with the cooler 3-as with some vrms, just the fact that there is some mass that is directly touching the heat spice (even through a thermal pad) it will improve thermals as you have more mass to accumulate and dissipate through itself the energy I agree it could be better, but I think this is the kind of detail that should be fixed with major cooler revamps, and I think if you put this heatpipe and fins arrangement next to a GTR, it probably is the same and so shroud and backplate have changed but this part not so much.

[@mightylink65]

That back plate is just to make it look cooler when people are browsing for it on Newegg and Amazon, that's XFX for ya.

[@colinmcbottle]

THey made that middle plate steve gets out at 15:45 because most probably that heatsink design is shared with vega 56. On Vega's case, there is no need for that plate (or more like: it was designed first without that plate in mind and it was added later for RX 590) because the copper shim at the center touches both HBM and GPU die. On this card they needed to cool the GDDR5 memory so they added another piece that most likely if it were there in the first place and wasnt detachable, would have interfered with Vega 56's VRM solution.

[@chrisbreaktherules]

haha that intro with your hair is funny as hell! love it!

[@crimsonhead4895]

the evga ad is so good

[@illuvattula5017]

Well, the G3 series PSUs are noisy sum bitches - I own one. I wouldn't make fan noise profile a selling point.

[@squishy312]

My only guess for the steel plate is to insulate it from the direct heat of GPU's temps. The block gets hot very quick, and I'm sure the memory will eventually get to the same temp, but it prevents it from the quick temp changes which might affect the functionality. So basically, it's a buffer that works like an inductor does in an electric circuit to stabilize the voltage, but instead for heat.

[@mcshidnfard456]

I have the same hair texture as you! Do a hair vid. But when you shower DONT use shampoo and use a sulfate free conditioner on the ends of your hair. Use a wide tooth comb, and before you get out quench your hair with ice cold water. When out DONT use a towel. Use a T-Shirt because it has a softer fabric. You’ll see super curls!

[@klausedwin]

The camera man is on hard work today.

[@ZanderLexx]

Please do three tests for the back plate. One with the back plate in place , one without the back plate and one with the back plate but add some thermal pads.

[@jellybeatdown]

Dude that psu is legit dope, just bought it for my new build (750 watt) its quiet as hell and low on temps for the most part

[@crayzeape2230]

From a thermal management point, stainless steel being a poor thermal conductor should allow the heat pipes to do their thing and take the heat straight to the fans. If you replace the stainless steel with a better thermal conductor, it will just trap the heat where you don't want it, right near the GPU, and also between the fans where the airflow is poor. It looks like thermal flow control rather than poor design.

[@zontarr22-zon]

Cray Ze Ape, just about to say the same. But also because steel does not bent at those temps, the cards produces, it will apply the same pressure around the memory modules.

[@crayzeape2230]

@@zontarr22-zon I had initially thought the aluminium section was a stainless steel insert and the comment was based on that error. You're likely correct in assuming the stainless steel was used as extra support due to the pressure applied to components it's cooling.

[@Moe-mr6mx]

honestly, the real thicc radeon card is the powercolor red devil. Also, I have ripped that connector off of board a million times, and usually you can just stick it back on. The EVGA iCX cooler uses that connector too. Also, I believe nickel is magnetic, so the mystery metal could very well be nickel.

[@k3salieri]

I've been doing some research myself on the card, and honestly, for the price, I'd say it's a pretty good buy compared to Nvidia at the moment.

[@quiltedquickerpicker]

I think the steel plate is to actually block the excess heat coming from the heat pipes from the GPU. The heat dispersing from the GPU is probably hotter than the heat generated by the RAM.

[@AlexServirog]

5:04 oh, this majestic tools set

[@mike288190]

Tools... ha ok

[@BSSVK]

05:00 I had exactly same problem unplugging fan cables from ASUS GTX 950 2GD5. That was really impossible unplug cables with no damaging connector.

[@orozcocris93]

it looks like the mounting plate for the ram pad locations is meant to be interchangeable for other ones depending on how many memory modules you have. It is a modular memory heatsink essentially...