AMD Athlon slot A 750@1030 MHz with goldfinger - RETRO Hardware

[@newls1]

I cant believe your collection of PC hardware... this video was my entire childhood and just wish this video was longer. Thanks for sharing

[@onthelam]

I had a 500Mhz Athlon that I overclocked with a goldfinger device to 700Mhz or so. Thanks for sharing.

[@joshhug2578]

same

[@aarongreenfield9038]

These old setups sure bring back some memories, and not all of them are good.

[@pentiummmx2294]

Phoenix sucks, in my opinion, AMI and Award are my favorites

[@LOGICALMAGNET]

OMG how manny AMD u got Im inlove the slot ones where great back in the days my first CPU

[@demasprojects]

one of the best pc platform of all time: slotA+geforce, early 2000! and one of the most interesting video about it

[@JasonLeaman]

OHHH!! the golden ORB days !!

[@yx8074]

Heart-touching video, thank you mate! I think V6600 was SDR version, and V6800 is DDR one.

[@SeishukuS12]

I had an ASUS K7M back in the day, never had an actual Slot-A processor for it though... We used an adapter card to use Socket-A chips. Never knew about multiplier/voltage connection though, that's pretty cool... Back then we just used a pencil to mod that stuff on the socket A chips. lol Good stuff!

[@justinholmes5614]

I’d forgotten about the pencil trick ! Joining those little gold dots to change the multiplier. I miss those days

[@SSC3034]

What was the adapter? According to the Wikipedia page on "Slotkets" they never made a Socket A to Slot A adapter

[@SeishukuS12]

​@@SSC3034 Now that you mention that and doing a Google search, I can't find anything... So now I'm doubting my memory. lol I'm pretty sure we had a Socket-A to Slot-A adapter though, also had a few Socket-370 to Slot-1 adapters too (because P3 on some old P2 systems). I want to say it was an ASUS branded adapter, but might have been the mobo... That was 20 years ago, so I'm not really sure. :D

[@justinholmes5614]

I miss the old Slot CPU, going back to sockets seemed like a step backwards. I had an 850 running 1050 with the GFD

[@georgez8859]

Thank you for the video.Very good results with the Overclock. Great work

[@lemagreengreen]

Man, it has been a long time since I've seen a goldfinger device. I used one on an Athlon 650 back in the day, I loved that CPU. If I remember right it did 750MHz no prblems.

[@azmax64]

Thunderbirds were some kick ass processors. I'm not even an AMD fan. But, those were amazing.

[@RuruFIN]

I have a 1GHz Socket A version for my retro rig. Nostalgic af since I had one as a kid :)

[@wishusknight3009]

The orignal .25um Argon Athlon's were quite impressive when they launched. They dropped before Intel could release Coppermine and Katmai just got routed. It is amazing to see the difference from it to Thunderbird. AMD was close to releasing TB first in a socket but went Slot A to get the chip out sooner.

[@Рома-д5м]

Обожаю твои видео! У тебя редкое железо! Лайк!

[@BANBANBANBAN1999]

Very good edit!

[@WouterVerbruggen]

Nice, I have that exact same board. I'm using it with an Argon core Athlon, the very first K7 core

[@wishusknight3009]

Would a comparison of TB to Pluto at a slightly lower clock be more comparable you figure? since the cache divider of the 750 was 2/5 instead of 1/2 if I rem correctly. The 700 is the highest clock that ran at 1/2 divider.

[@ccanaves]

Definitely, I was about to ask for the same. At 700 the difference would be smaller. The faster you clock them, the bigger the difference.

[@Tc4ify]

OMG, in the several years since I've been keeping an eye on my local used components market (central Europe as well), I haven't seen a single slot A Athlon for sale and you just casually have dozens, lmao!

[@Tc4ify]

On second thought, maybe that's why I've never seen one, lol. These were far less common than Intel slot 1 chips (back in the day I remember knowing a single guy who had one) and even those are getting rare nowadays... Oh and sdram sticks with heatsinks! Another thing I've never seen, not even on pictures! Man, where do you dig all this stuff up?

[@RETROHardware]

I don’t know where are you watching but basic freqs like 600-750 or MB are for sale 5x per month on any portal.

[@NinerowCenter]

As a kid, i know they existed... but i never have seen even a picture of it

[@wskinnyodden]

The slot A 750Mhz AMD Athlon was the first PC CPU ever running at 1Ghz by being overclocked and running on a custom case that had a no frost fridge cooling the heatsink, can remembet the name of the case but I actually used one of these, the system actually waited for the CPU to be at least at 0C before actually starting up the mobo. Oh the case was a Cryotek!

[@kami4542]

Nice video as always ;) People seem to forget Slot A but back in the days, they were very competitive as performance per price, especially when there was a shortage of Pentium III in late 1999- early 2000. Although the problem of this architecture was the L2 cache speed, the overclockability of those chips was really nice. Athlons 1ghz Thunderbird in slot A seem very rare nowadays, how did you managed to get one ? If I remember well, the 1ghz model was only use by OEM, but I don't know what PC models used it

[@RETROHardware]

All 1GHz cpus I have cost me lot of stuff (by exchange) or money. Lower freqs still no problem to find.

[@briangrauholm2641]

Dang. This takes me back.

[@KOSMOS1701A]

that motherboard, back when "4 USB Ports" was a selling point on the front of the box

[@FOIL_FRESH]

loved the ending shot, very stylish :)

[@SmellsLikeEMinor]

Fantastic as always. I'm insanely jealous of your collection and think your content will continue to be wonderful for a long time to come. Have a wonderful day. -E

[@krestovich]

боже, откуда столько железок, просто рай. я бы затестил пару ретро куллеров с современными процами.

[@iceManSwag]

8:23 this build is future proof from 1901 - 2099 only Microsoft Windows 98 wasnt ready!

[@ZeroHourProductions407]

I would have thought pluto core would perform better because it had more cache. Yet the final charts show the thunderbirds actually being better in spite of that. That's wild! #TodayILearned

[@RETROHardware]

TB has full speed cache on die. Other older cores has "external" cache at 300MHz. This is trick and reason.

[@dabombinablemi6188]

The CB2003 score puts it 3 points above my Pentium III 1000 EB at 1.2GHz (though that was with 2x of them installed).

[@kocu666]

Awesome collections I love AMD

[@resonancerim]

Felt happy after watching this while drinking beer. No idea, if that's music or switches' clicking aesthetics. Thanks.

[@omarsis81]

Where did you get the goldfinger?

[@videosmarcelouk]

i was think what's max frequence suported fo this processor maybe 1.2 Ghz ?

[@RETROHardware]

Max OC can be around 1.1 - 1.2GHz with 10.5 multiplier and higher FSB. You are very limited with higher FSB with these CPUs, they are unriendly with OC this way.

[@videosmarcelouk]

I find your channel end liked I love old hardware. I always have goods memory’s about this

Hehehehe

[@TheSqeeek]

I had one of those processors sitting in a box for 10 years, never did end up with a motherboard that would run it. No clue what happened to it.

[@ccanaves]

So did you ever do the 2nd part that you talk at the end of the video?

[@RETROHardware]

slot A stuff is near my hands now, maybe will do something, who knows :-)

[@ccanaves]

@@RETROHardware Awesome!

[@thomassmith4999]

Wow I've never even seen a Athlon slot A in my entire 50 year life and look how many you have.

[@ScanlineCity]

I see you have the golden orb cooler on the thunderbird. Is that the slot 1 version? Wondering if slot 1 coolers can be used on slot A

[@RETROHardware]

Yes it is same.

[@quattro4468]

In your opinion what is the best place to acquite a pair of these cpus? Thanks for the great video.

[@RETROHardware]

Slot A CPUs on ebay no problem. We talking about 500-800MHz If you want 900-1000MHz this is quite rare and expensive.

[@RetroJay1974]

I have a Goldfinger device! Also had a bunch of Slot A Athlons. I remember them they were a real game changer back in the day and shortly after that the Socket A stuff came out.

[@Dexion845]

If it weren't for AMD, I'm almost positive a Core i5-2500K would be the best we'd have right now.

[@alaricjeard269]

Do you have any 750 Slot A for sale? To make an improvement over my 550mhz pluto....

[@rcarkk]

Curious to see Pluto 700mhz vs Thunderbird 700mhz. Pluto 700mhz was the highest clocked with 50% speed L2. 750mhz Pluto has 40% speed L2 cache.

[@johnk7134]

Mate you found a new 256???...and all other stuff@ amazing collection!

[@RETROHardware]

Not new but looks minimum use.

[@johnk7134]

@@RETROHardware Hello how can anyone communicate with you, i have an ST6 which only does 2X agp and maybe you can help me. Thanks.

[@RETROHardware]

FB

[@aero2zero]

But why do they covered that extra connector under the plastic shroud?

[@CotyRiddle]

originally used internally by AMD for testing.

[@MessalineApghar]

why didn't you delid and goldfinger the pluto core ?

[@tamw]

Do you know where I can get a hold of one of those ninja goldfinger device today?

[@RETROHardware]

in Germany one guy is doing clone, try vogons forum or ebay

[@Every1LuvzaPlayer]

What's the best graphics card to use with an ASUS K7V-T motherboard and Windows XP? I'm using a 1GHZ Thunderbird Slot A CPU and 1.5GB of RAM. And I'm using a GeForce 6200 card right now, but what is the most efficient graphics card to use with this setup? AGP card or PCI?

[@Erik.Lundberg]

This motherboard seem to have a later revision of the AMD 751 north bridge because it support Super Bypass. Does it also work with AGP 2X?

[@RETROHardware]

from review, it is rev 1.04 ... I have a couple of these MBs all same revs "The AGP slot on the K7M is a standard 3.3v AGP 2X slot, while the AMD 751 North Bridge used on the K7M does not support AGP 4X, from our testing the performance increase provided for by AGP 4X over AGP 2X is negligible and there isn't a single AGP 4X graphics card available on the market today that doesn't work in an AGP 2X slot."

[@Ale.K7]

What a fantastic channel!

[@wiretap25]

I remade the NinjaMicro in KiCAD, in case anyone wants to build one: www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=942299#p942299

[@KitKatFresse]

You can allso use some flat pliers to take the cartridges appart without damaging the gold contacts :) Is there any way you could upload some high res pictures of the gfd? I'd like to have some made myself, since they are very hard to find...

[@RETROHardware]

Later, some photos are on my FB. Now I don't have photo camera here. Lot of infofmations, schematics on websites too. web.archive.org/web/20010203064900/bukkorosu.com:80/pages/athlonoverclocking.html www.anandtech.com/show/405/2 www.anandtech.com/show/457/11 web.archive.org/web/20010211212050/members.nbci.com:80/candjac/athlonocg.htm

[@SmellsLikeEMinor]

How do you not have a metric fuck-tonne of subscribers? This video was great, as are all the rest. Your collection is fucking incredible and I envy you to a small degree. Lol Cheers

[@kommandokodiak6025]

whats between the cpu die and that aluminium plate that you attached the heatsink to? Is it thermal paste, solder, or a thermal pad?

[@KitKatFresse]

Thermal paste, woth replacing or if you can find a cooler that is made for direct die (pretty rare today)

[@RETROHardware]

I'am not sure. TB CPUs has cache direct on die so maybe little different than Argon/Pluto/Orion cores.

[@Elios0000]

i remember doing this with my Athlon 700 back in the day oh man has it been 20 years already fuck me im old i shimmed my cache chips too since the first run they didnt make full contact with the heat spreader

[@m14radu]

is K7V from asus not better than K7M ? do you have both mobos ? can you do a comparation with the 1Ghz T-Bird ? :)

[@RETROHardware]

I don't have K7V, only K7M. You have compare now with OC piece +/- at 1GHz. FSB is almost same. I will make others videos of course in future, with original 1GHz too.

[@m14radu]

@@RETROHardware i saw the k7m but i was thinking you have the k7v as well. You have a lot of slot a boards therefore i asked ;)

[@RETROHardware]

I have 20+ boards but 95% of them are OC unfriendly or not supports TB core correct. I mean highest TB freqs.

[@m14radu]

@@RETROHardware witch one is the best and you recommend ?

[@RETROHardware]

If you have older core, should be good AOpen or MSI. For all cpus (with latest bios) is good this ASUS. Abit, EpoX unknown for me, they are maybe best.

[@hmbrz]

really nice, the motherboard and graphics card looking new in the box! also I've never seen so many Slot As together! wasn't it possible to run it at AGP 4x?

[@RETROHardware]

Board is AGP 2x.

[@wishusknight3009]

@@RETROHardware Do you think the software was incorrectly stating it was running @1x?

[@alat_ka]

Big golden cooler what's the brand and model?

[@RETROHardware]

Thermaltake Golden Orb

[@alat_ka]

@@RETROHardware Thanks i need to change coolers on my slot1 cpus.

[@PROSTO4Tabal]

Hey, are you vlask on Vogons ?

[@RETROHardware]

No, vlask has channel here: kzbin.info

[@mestresdopc]

Friend, what's your name? you could explain, for example, when you show the piece, when you bought it, if you got used, defective, or if you bought new ones at the time, because I'm also a collector, this type of information would be very useful for collectors. Very grateful!! and good luck, and salute!

[@Quietruck]

How do you acquire some much retro hardware?

[@RETROHardware]

Never ending hoarding :-)

[@ScanlineCity]

How can I find a dang goldfinger!

[@blackpanther50]

The asus v6600 has Single data ram and not DDR which was the v6800

[@RETROHardware]

You right, this is SDR. It is mistake.

[@warrax111]

But in this case, was right, it is really FIRST geforce. :)

[@modlabs]

Is it possible to find such gold finch?

[@ted-b]

Great fun!

[@max1024]

For Slot-A Asus motherboards are good choice, but do you have Abit KA7-100 which have more extended BIOS? PQI SDRAM 150+ Nice look )))

[@RETROHardware]

This is question. I don't have Abit board with slot A. This ASUS works fine with TB cores.

[@max1024]

So, you can looking for it for replenish your collection ;) It is very interesting motherboard )) Good luck, waiting for 1Ghz battle Orion Vs Thunderbird =)

[@RETROHardware]

Haha I need stop grabing, not looking for more. No drama, maybe onetime will get it.

[@MichaelMichael-kv4gp]

Imagine flexing on people with a 1ghz cpu back then. I still remember the day I went to a website and it asked me if I had a cpu with over 500mhz and if I didn't it just directed you back to metacrawler and I said to my self man someday I'll get a cpu with 500 mhz :P

[@ScanlineCity]

Man I wish I could find that goldfinger!

[@annonimityone1676]

Nice man.

[@ekopambudislamet7850]

i got duron 600 running @1.2ghz...

[@ViperBenchmarks]

wow nice

[@netowork3d]

Eu tive o 550mhz...

[@nightshadow5328]

Охереть коллекция :)

[@kev3plus179]

PCMark2002 test :C

[@COAG-]

1999: how to play cs 1.6 on 300fps.

[@mightwilder]

this slot form factor was complete rubbish, because cpu lines were longer than ever before!

[@humbertoribeiro-s5v]

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