AMD cuts price of RX 7600... not because of NVIDIA but because of Intel! $270 GPU battle!

[@Voltaic_Fire]

The biggest surprise here is just how good Intel cards have gotten, those drivers were a literal game changer, I don't think we can afford to forget that Intel even makes GPUs anymore.

[@GahloWake]

Especially since they dropped the a750 to $200.

[@mennahj]

I just ordered a a750 for $200, feeling pretty good about it. I’m sure they will only get better and better with drivers until they hit the ceiling of the card’s capabilities. But it also really close to the new 7600 at $70 less

[@azena.]

I'm gonna be building 4 or 5 PC's shortly, and I am genuinely considering an intel GPU for each of them. They'll be vaguely entry level PC's capable of some 1080p gaming each having a clear upgrade path for the people I'm building them for so they have that opportunity if they are so minded. Torn between an intel GPU, 6700 XT or maybe the 7600 if the price is right at the time.

[@teardowndan5364]

@@GahloWake I'm waiting for the price drop to hit Canadian stores to get one myself.

[@thebestcommentsonYouTube]

​@azena. I know it's 1080p bit I would still go with the 6700XT for the 12gb vram vs the 8gb with the intel

[@summaryjudgment]

More competition in the low-end GPU segment is really what the industry needs. Intel has stepped in to fill that void nicely.

[@phoenixrising4995]

Yup can't wait for the A770 16GB to drop to 300 USD now. I got mine for that during a Christmas flash sale. If ARC is priced like this then they will win the favour of PC fence sitters. A380 6GB - 130-150 USD A750 8GB - 200-220 USD A770 8GB - 250-270 USD A770 16GB - 300 USD. Damn, by the end of the year they might shape up to be like a Pascal of sorts, by that point the drivers should be there.

[@blendpinexus1416]

low end dgpus are nice in the desktop space and not really necessary in the laptop space. what an odd market the computers have now

[@nightruler666]

@@phoenixrising4995 Im looking to build a video editing/ 3d model pc would the 770 be good for stuff like that?

[@phoenixrising4995]

@@nightruler666 This summer it should be, more likely august. Blender will fully support OneAPI by then. However if your app for 3d modelling requires cuda then buy Nvidia.

[@nightruler666]

@@phoenixrising4995 Thanks what type of monitor would you recommand?

[@hiddenbruh]

Glad to see Phil on screen again, hope Jay has a successful recovery.

[@UpsideDownCanoe]

What happened to Jay?

[@kh_trendy]

​@@UpsideDownCanoe he has surgery, which is why Phil is on camera

[@jootai]

really? why are you glad dude? cant wait to work for you and do a piss poor job and have a boss that would be glad.

[@UpsideDownCanoe]

@@kh_trendy ye i got that part, vut i want to know why he's having surgery

[@RAZGR1Z]

@@UpsideDownCanoe None of your business.

[@MrGoodFella]

Just wanna say, we all appreciate you Phil! You have really stepped up with Jay out recovering and I just wanna say that your awesome and doing an amazing job filling in. Keep up the great work brotha!!!! 🤘😉🤳

[@CS-pl8fc]

I don't

[@MrGoodFella]

@@CS-pl8fc did anyone ask you specifically? Nahh we didn't

[@benjy117]

Jay didn't have to take that video down. Phil didn't say anything really that wrong. It's just fanboys and bots mostly. Now it wasn't the new mid range king of course by a long stretch with 8GB vram.

[@Julmaa87]

His awesome what?

[@aaronlesley5855]

As a 3060 owner, gonna pass this generation for all companies.

[@guvkon]

Skipping the next generation of any product is a good idea. Unless it has an insane time gap (e.g. game consoles).

[@LuminousSpace]

i still own 2060, and until now i really dont think anything worth it lol

[@doppiak2227]

@@LuminousSpace i think that i'll go for the next one too xD. usually is good to go for an upgrade every 2 Gens, but this one (From BOTH sides) feels like a refresh of last gen

[@shuntao3475]

@@LuminousSpace The only card on the market I would replace my 2060 with today, would the A770. In truth though, Battlemage should be out within a year. I am waiting for it.

[@originalityisdead.9513]

​@@LuminousSpaceYou could pick up a 6800XT. That's a big upgrade.

[@Kiyuja]

this still hasent shaken my "I will skip this gen" attitude. I personally am not satisfied with what you get for 300-500 bucks. Good to see that AMD holds a candle in atleast one price range this gen....and my GOD is Intel doing gods work. Its to a point where im more than just considering ARC for next years release cycle. Hope they can still smash it at around 300 bucks

[@aggies11]

Will all the old gen stock floating around I think both AMD and Nvidia *want* us to skip this gen. Or rather, they won't price this gen competitively until last gen is finally "finished". As longer as neither is willing to compete with one another, they have nothing forcing them to price these new products at all competitively. So people either buy overpriced new cards, or clear out the last gen stock, both ways Nvidia and AMD are still making sales. This just all sucks as even after both a crypto boom and pandemic/lockdown are over, we are still left feeling the negative effects. The last 4 years are pretty much a "lost generation(s)"

[@Scnottaken]

The RX5700xt released at $350 like 4 years ago. Basically the same perf/$

[@nateoliver3285]

6800 xt for that price range. Pretty good card imo

[@Kiyuja]

@@Scnottaken perf per currency is a pretty useless stat. Many AMD copers rely on it for their purchase decision but there are literally 50-70 buck GPUs on Amazon giving you roughly a 1:1 FPS per buck ratio(low-med settings), this would be insane value however I highly doubt ANYONE would buy those. You should always have a rough performance target and then look for what gets you the closest or might offer a little more for a little extra. Thats why you need reviewers

[@Scnottaken]

@@Kiyuja they're almost the same performance or I wouldn't have mentioned it.

[@hanspeter42069]

I love how over the last couple of month every GPU review was also a slight, in most cases unintentionaly, A750 Hype up is. For all Tech KZbinrs

[@GTQcNumber1]

I mean if intel can make a dent in the GPU market the better cause we really need more competition in the GPU and I would like to see another brand also enter the CPU race

[@shuntao3475]

I got the A770 for my daughter.... I has been wonderful. I am now waiting for Battleamge.

[@notrixamoris3318]

FUN FACT: after the 4050 fiasco INTEL ARC 750 is now $200...

[@Craider79]

Yeah but still it has stability issues and trouble launching a bunch of games out of the box - sometimes - on some system - the fault is periodic - which is infuriating AF trust me! Have about 20 system in my service rotation which has A770 and A750 cards and they are BY FAR the largest offenders when it comes to random crashes and failures to launch - and even bluescreening/bricking Windows - both 10 and 11. I don't debate that their raw horsepower is good - however I would NEVER recommend them to anyone who isn't fairly tech savvy - and to me they are more a fun toy/tech demo than an actual competitor... and I think Intel knows this which is probably why they haven't released more cards yet.

[@Xirpzy]

​@@Craider79 sounds like my amd experience. But I guess its even worse on intel then.

[@pyroslev]

Two lessons for me: my 6700 XT is proving the be an absolute value king overall and that if Intel keeps throwing up punches like this, they're gonna be a budget belle of the ball when they bring a big boy card to the market.

[@georgwarhead2801]

sad part is, when they fixed there drivers, they are going to charge the exact same amount as nvidia for the same performance. they allready did that with the ARC series, just slot them in, where the counterparts from nvidia are priced

[@SC4RFAC327]

Im still using my 5700xt nitro and it performs amazing! i wanted the 6950xt but passing the 6 and 7k series. Maybe they learn and create a good 8k series

[@notluzn]

I have the 6700xt as well and a great card

[@Dan-Simms]

A750 dropped to $200 today, makes it finally a good deal for low end.

[@Pro4TLZZ]

Lovely price

[@blackcrov840]

Yeah but only limited games works on it tho :(

[@notrixamoris3318]

​@@blackcrov840 COZ 8GB IS NOT ENOUGH ANYMORE!!!

[@slickrounder6045]

@@notrixamoris3318 I am the biggest proponent of 8gb vram being obsolete, but at $200 super budget end, 8gb vram is more than fine. The intel card is a banger deal at that price.

[@jaggsta]

RX 6700 10GB is $279 still similar price as RX 7600 8gb with more performance.

[@Jack-qj2pr]

So happy I ordered an A770 months ago. I love how it looks (is so beautiful!) and it always excites me to see how it improves with age. I really hope Intel continue to develop more dGPU.

[@phoenixrising4995]

Yup I scored one during a Christmas flash sale for 300 USD. Love the A770 16GB model, I know that its VRAM isn't handicapped in anyway and its driver updates are really good so far. To think that my local retailer was trying to get rid of these cards to have more space for 4080s to sell, then just to have them return as open box and sell at a loss makes me laugh. Dumb Scalpers and now Nvidia is scalping you with the 4060Ti.

[@RafitoOoO]

lol

[@aztracker1]

I will say the aesthetic is much nicer than most gamer cards IMO. Though I'm over case windows and to RGB for now.

[@Starman_Dx]

Great job Phil! Don't worry abou the 4060 review. It was one stumble, but you're going strong now. Can't wait to see more.

[@maxmustermann194]

Maybe should've kept the 4060 review online with a disclaimer that the video doesn't necessarily reflect J's opinions. Let the guy make his mistakes and learn from em, we all do.

[@OCX600RR]

@@maxmustermann194 Yeah but that would have hurt the KZbin algorithm for their channel, which they obviously want to avoid.

[@334nickg]

Instead of reposting the original video they should just do a talking head piece about what considerations they make in doing a budget build between Nvidia AMD and Intel

[@akisakis665]

@@maxmustermann194 I aggre with that, but after all it's J's channel

[@modelcitizen9279]

What happened in the video, is it posted on KZbin? If Jay disagrees with Phil, why not have both opinions available? Phil seems like an intelligent guy from what I've seen.

[@alexstevens9144]

Good seeing you on camera again Phil! Sorry I missed the 4060ti video yesterday before whatever happened. Keep up the good videos guys and rest up Jay!

[@strongislandx]

you can find it online if you wanted

[@disguiseddv8ant486]

It wasn't yesterday. The video was posted last week.

[@cjmiller69]

Heck yeah Phil. Keep them coming. Jay get better.

[@unforgeable7808]

I think Phil has a well enough sense of humor at least.

[@jaredschroeder]

@@Lloyd-Franklin post op

[@SirGingerOfKnight]

@@Lloyd-Franklin Surgery Recovery

[@Brabant076]

@@Lloyd-Franklin He has a Ligma, very sad.

[@alext6933]

​@@Brabant076so sad. 😊

[@jamesbolho]

Intel is getting really interesting, curious to see their 2nd gen cards. For now I'm keeping my 3060ti, more than enough for 1080p with RT.

[@TECHOSAUR]

indeed

[@mishaaldawnak5373]

Agreed. But is it really enough that too with RT? Like do you hit 60 fps as average fps?

[@fareshesham8135]

Got a Strix 3060Ti, 1440p Med to high settings, couldn't be happier.

[@Tactify24]

Raytracing in what, minecraft?

[@r.l.strange1897]

If you use RT, it’s not enough lol. But do you man

[@JWACOM]

Better watch this before Jay finds out... 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@KingSteven77]

Yeah lol

[@ZeusTheIrritable]

​@@KingSteven77It's a joke, obviously. Jay is recovering from sur-... You know, I'll let you figure it out.

[@KingSteven77]

I already know he had a surgey, so he is taking a break to recover. What's your point, lmao

[@ZeusTheIrritable]

@@KingSteven77 Jesus dude...

[@spencersworkshop7624]

Get well soon Jay! FYI they didn't shill Ifixit, looking forward to you doubling up next time! Jk

[@ericcardinal4788]

Way to go Phil. Great job on this video. Nice to get a peak at the newest generation of AMD card. Awesome pricing. Hope Jay has a speedy and successful recovery.

[@Lyvarious]

It's surprising that the A750 is growing as a value proposition, at least for specific workloads, over where it was at last year. Love how this video was lowkey more a showcase of how drivers can mature

[@User-md3ul]

I mean you still don't want to recommend this for older titles that probably can't get as much attention regarding driver fixes. But it's still impressive.

[@Lyvarious]

@User 101 no but I wouldn't recommend anything modern rn because of the prices either

[@vincentellsworth7905]

if you buy something that isn't good til 2 years later when the next gen comes out, then is it really that good of a value? do you not value your time?

[@Lyvarious]

@Vincent Ellsworth I never said it's actually worth the money to buy one it's just that the value proposition is getting better. I don't recommend buying any of the latest Gen at their current prices. I don't recommend buying last Gen when you consider the prices pre 'demic.

[@vincentellsworth7905]

@@Lyvarious got it so it's getting better but nothing is worth buying now...🤣

[@murdoch9106]

I'm just happy seeing the 6750XT in a test, hardly none seem to have them in tests numbers, so sad... ^^ This seem's like a pretty good card for the money, with how insane prices are still... Remember, prices on high end cards are still almost double what we'd see 6 - 10 years ago.

[@nightshadelenar]

or triple in nvidia's case.

[@toddratson7526]

I have a 6750XT which I patiently snagged for a reasonable price last year and I am very happy with it. I don't do RT but I can raster anything quietly at 2560x1600 with max settings and not set my room on fire. Efficient score extra points with me as I have to AC my home in the summer.

[@DESTRUCTIONHOUSEGAMING]

We love you phill. Mistakes happen. No problems

[@ssjaken]

Getting caught up on my subs. This was a great vid and review. More Phil!

[@LingBaneHydra]

Hey!!! Phil is back!!! I Phil happy right now!

[@Scorpius165]

It's interesting how good the Intel cards have gotten with driver updates and if Metro Exodus results are any indication, both nvidia and AMD should be very worried in that price class.

[@Zack_Mee_Nhatz]

Hey guys, i know you have big shoes to fill with Jay's absence, and the pressure to be on that level is immense i imagine. Just know that i (and im sure many others, do understand). Mistakes will bound to happen (alot in the first times) and thats OK. Lets hope this mistakes will shape you dramtacilly better in the future.

[@gabegilmore2985]

Love to see Phil getting more comfortable in front of the camera. Keep up the great work!

[@GermanYinzer]

Great content Phil!

[@Drock7749]

I'm impressed that AMD's 2nd gen RT performance is mostly matching Nvidia's 2nd gen RT performance, Cyberpunk not withstanding it's a RT torture test lol. Intel cards are really impressive here, excited to see if Intel's next gen is still coming out and how well they do! The 7600 should still be priced at no higher than $249, period!

[@darranstyler]

Great video. Nice to see Phil again. Get well soon Jay but good that you've got a great team

[@jackconrad4814]

Loving to see Phil at the forefront for a bit! I don’t love the 7600 but I don’t hate it either. They could’ve dropped the MSRP a bit more in my opinion

[@Valkross9]

In that intro, I was like, "What same price point? Nvidia has nothing on that same price point."

[@marshallmcluhan33]

Yeah the Nvidia check cleared so he won't be uploading a new review.

[@Wolek96]

4060 in Juli will be around that price point.

[@daflipbizkit]

He should have said price bracket bc you could get 3060 near 300, and aib cards for 7600 would reach 300ish bc of added fans, OC, etc.

[@dragonl4d216]

@@daflipbizkit AMD always drop prices a few weeks after launch like their 7900XT which is now $150 below MSRP. The RX7600 price sucks so I am guessing it will fall below $250 in a matter of weeks.

[@Author_25]

Intel Arc looks to be the best option especially with the price drop on the A750 and possibly the A770, combined with constant driver updates that see performance increases. Battlemage is also looking promising with possible, 4080 levels of performance at half the price. Cannot help and laugh at the irony of Intel being the one that could save PC gaming.

[@trueNahobino]

Yeah here's hoping that Intel actually keeps working on Arc. I think they might actually be able to continue as long as Battlemage goes well for them.

[@martmeister]

Showing all the cards with pricing on a chart would have been awesome. Also showing an avg. at the end to see how they all fared would have been awesome too.

[@xxargonautxx9790]

Honestly intel is set up to kill it for mid range when the release their next gpus. Nvidia and AMD have really dropped the ball. Those cards won’t last 2 years with the vram they have. Even my 3080 with 10 gb might need to be replaced in the future if i want those newer games.

[@M.J.C.W.]

You guys are doing a great job and I hope Jay gets well soon

[@l.i.archer5379]

I have one of the last EVGA RTX 3060 XC 12 GB cards, and 2 ASUS TUF Gaming RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB cardss in 3 PCs, and 2 other PCs with AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB and an RX 6950 XT 16 GB cards. If I knew a year ago to not buy anything with 8 GB or less, I would have left the RTX 3070 Tis alone.

[@STRET24]

Love the love here for Phil…internets don’t always suck!

[@corrycathuo9421]

Much love and prayers to the 2Cents team! You guys are all awesome!

[@Black3ternity]

Great Video Phil! All of you guys complement each other greatly and I enjoy the continued content.

[@HolyHipHop116]

You know what, you did way better than Jay would on this video. You kept me retained by explaining Every chart in depth. Most of Jays reviews he would just roll music while showing the charts to let the user read, I would much rather this style with you explaining everything in depth

[@SplyzerxGaming-uz2qe]

Great job Phil! Wishing Jay a speedy recovery but don't be a stranger when he returns!

[@rmrestivo]

Thank you Phil job well done. You are doing an amazing job filling in. Keep up the great work. Hope Jay feels better soon. 👍

[@Wolek96]

Great video guys! It's good to see low price 1080p card which can handle ultra settings. I hope AMD will improve RT performance with time.

[@nety2k]

One thing I like more and more of the reviews from Phil is they are really grounded compared to other reviewers, you don't try to cause toxic discussions or plainy said the product sucks, just giving your results and being objective in a positive way... that's becoming more unique and I'm all in for it, thank you and keep going! With more practice you'll become a master in presenting in no time!

[@christopherjames9843]

So you don't like reviewers telling the truth?

[@FARBerserker]

Intel also dropped the price of the 750 with 8GB to 199$

[@ZAGAN-OZ]

Because they are not selling.

[@homiefromfl]

You guys should put the prices at the time of editing of the cards shown on the graphs, at least from pcpartpicker, so that we as consumers have a clearer understanding of what our VERY hard earned dollars could get us, vs what we think is best us for our particular budgets. In all of these, I can't seem to get over the fact that the A750 hangs pretty well in all the testing, having FPS exceeding 70--which is perfectly playable and enjoyable--all for less than $250, on much newer hardware than a lot of the cards in its bracket.

[@Leety-o2j]

Hope to see more of Phil on camera hosting reviews, I like his style. Good Job Phil you are a natural presenter, This Gen of cards has been let down, I am holding on until next year and see if anything changes.

[@ibbobud]

As a new A750 owner this week I will be keeping it and taking my driver update gains

[@phoenixrising4995]

A770 16GB owner here and damn that price drop for the A750 is mighty impressive, 200 USD for the A750 is great. The A770 16GB should be 300 USD and the A770 8GB should be 270 USD to create enough of a segment for their cards, but also to get under AMDs and Nvidias skin. This will help bring prices back to reality for gamers and we will have more competition. Hopefully we get a fourth player as well. The 90s we had several options and I'm glad EVGA left Nvidia, maybe one day they'll come back and join team blue.

[@ibbobud]

@@phoenixrising4995 this is intel’s chance to drop pricing onn a770 models as well and release a big driver update with fps gains haha

[@phoenixrising4995]

@@ibbobud Yup time to give Nvidia the middle finger, just like EVGA did.

[@RarestAce]

Great job Phil!!!!!! Praying for Jay to have a quick recovery.

[@jeffreygrindle6396]

A750 was dropped to 199 this morning and as a owner it just keeps getting better

[@phoenixrising4995]

Same with the A770 it just keeps getting better.

[@thepathnotfound]

Good review thanks, we’re getting a ok card for under $300. Your comparisons were clear and brief. Lots of the other reviewers outrage was beginning to wearing me out. I count myself lucky that I went for a AMD combo deal last year with 5800x3d/6750xt.

[@joey_f4ke238]

I finally upgraded last year from a gtx970 to the rtx3060, the 970 is still enough to just cover my needs but it definitely showed it´s age. If you ask me, anything that is less 2x or even 3x performance upgrade is not worth it at retail price, unless you sell the old card you would be paying 300 or more for 30/40% more frames. That makes no sense honestly unless you need the performance professionally.

[@solidreactor]

I would personally today only buy a 8GB card for max $230-$250, $269 is around that ballpark but anything above that price range *should* have at least around 12GB (looking at you 7600 *XT*).

[@marshallmcluhan33]

I agree we need more vram in these cards. The 6700 XT 12GB is a great deal right now if you can find one. It's matched or slightly ahead of the 4060 TI (8GB) in performance with more vram.

[@DrKriegsgrave]

the real winner here is intel with its impressive strides to release better drivers and paying off, and the A750 card is just as cheap right now as its competitors, well done!

[@tedll75]

Great video. Good job Phil and Nic!! Nice breakdown of this level of cards!!

[@phoenixrising4995]

As an Intel ARC A770 16GB owner its looking real good. Remember that the the ARC cards are still babies at this point, not even a full gen in for the mainstream buyer. I hope Battlemage comes in giving RTX 4000 a mid-range beating, that being said that will be like Mike Tyson boxing Joe Biden.

[@_CJ_]

I want to see phil build PC and let Jay rate the quality afterwards :) I mean without any direct inputs from jay it could be fun :D

[@mattybbg6850]

$1000 micro centre build off between nick and phil with jay as judge.

[@MadWhiteNerd]

Great breakdown by the numbers, Phil! Shoutouts for filling in while Jay's recovering. Get well soon, Jay!

[@SwingArmCity]

I think the 7600 did ok. At 270 i think its a good start.

[@teardowndan5364]

Intel's A750 LE got a price drop to $200. I plan to get one once the new pricing hits Canadian stores.

[@phoenixrising4995]

I got my A770 back around Christmas. A lot of people were poo pooing the card at the time and writeful so at that point. It just meant I could pick it up at my local retailer during a flash sale for 300 USD. I guess I bought the dip and I profited.

[@sh1rub4]

Thanks Phil for stepping in 👍

[@jarnom85]

This is pretty much fairly ok upgrade to RX 6600 non-XT. How ever price conserns me i can have 6650 XT for 289€ or Arc 750 for 279€ in local retailer and if MSRP is at 270$ then added tax and currency conversion its going to be 310€ in that local retailer, not worth imo, much rather buy 6650 XT since it has on avarage around 5-9% bar some exceptions more performance than 6600 XT so it most likely will be equal to 7600.

[@v3c7r0n]

Well done Phil. I'm glad I decided to buy last gen. AMD pushing NVidia and Intel solidifying their stuff and pushing both of them by presenting a viable 3rd option is great for everyone, regardless of your preferred brand.

[@genxfree]

Phil!!! Great to see you again!!! Jay get well and comeback soon!! Great channel with all the three of you!

[@RevansNightmare]

Intels next generation is going to be the one to watch. I might buy one for my kids build.

[@phoenixrising4995]

Lets go Battlemage.

[@tallrocko7010]

Could you do a review of the intel arc cards comparing them to what they were at launch.

[@Driftuner]

Every video that i watch from new gpu releases just make me appreciate my 3060Ti more and more...

[@patrickbrault8411]

Not enough of a generation uplift to warrant changing my RX 6600 XT for.

[@ramonbmovies]

I'm waiting for the 5000 series cards or the AMD equivalents.

[@marshallmcluhan33]

Yeah Buying a used or discounted 3xxx series Nvidia or 6xxx series AMD is the way to go especially if you want a decent amount of vram for the price. This generation costs too much for what it delivers.

[@ramonbmovies]

@@marshallmcluhan33 Yes, agreed.

[@Bummer873]

My nephew is looking to build his first "official" gaming rig so I appreciate the good data! Thank you Phil!

[@killer01ws6]

Well done Phil, tell Jay to get well soon. As for the cards nothing much of a surprise except that intel is slowly and really quietly of late moving into a real contender.

[@av3ng3r-49]

Hey Phil! Nice to have someone different fronting the episodes from time to time. Speedy recovery Jay.

[@NGreedia]

6650xt and a750 were recently going for $50 less. that makes the 7600 at $270 look not so great

[@oscarmetal]

No matter what do not delete this video or any other. Everybody has the right to say wtf they want.

[@SFAJmz05]

👍 just because you are cool and I hope you dont get that kind of treatment again. It kinda made me mad and felt like you were mistreated/bullied. Glad to see you hang in there even though it looks like you are now uncomfortable. Much ❤ for ya man and stay 💪!!

[@apc01352]

Another comment on the intel A750. Intel really seems to have RT figured out, likely even more so than NVidia at this point. I cant wait to see what they come out with for their next gen cards. This coming from someone who has never played a game with RT on

[@phoenixrising4995]

XeSS also looks nicer than FSR at the moment to. Plus I can still use either if I want. Yeah no DLSS, but meh I have options. AMD can use XeSS but it doesn't have the Native cores to run it so it runs in a software fallback mode.

[@Aremisalive]

I think 8 gigs of vram is a huge bottleneck with Ray tracing. Would have been interesting to also test a 3060 8gb with RT.

[@kimberly4275]

Do people really use RT? I've turned it on once and was like cool and turned it off again lol

[@andremalerba5281]

@@kimberly4275 if I had a RTX card I definitely would if it looked nice! I'm one of those who loved PhysX, Hariworks, TressFX hair, PCSS shadows and all those fancy effects! Also, IMO, Assassin's Creed Unity PCSS shadows are just amazing! If RT Shadow are as good as those I would definitely turn it on! Dang...back in the day I've decided to get a 9600GT instead of the AMD counterpart 'cause Mirror's Edge looked way better with PhysX on!

[@Aremisalive]

@@kimberly4275 Yes, but really only on high end cards. I would only recommend it on the 7900XT and up, or 4070ti and up. Though the 6950xt is pretty decent at it. This would be a purely academic teat.

[@petrolhead0387]

@@Aremisalive I have used ray tracing on 6800XT with no problems whatsoever. Only game it struggled with was GOTG and even that was just a couple of minor stutters.

[@QuantumS1ngularity]

I said this on GN, video as well as on Linus's - to me that sudden price drop isn't a reaction to Nvidia, but a reaction to Intel. AMD probably have inside info about their driver development, maybe some guys from EVGA got there and started helping; they are partners in the mobo business after all and since EVGA no longer is in the game with Nvidia, it's not entirely out of the question. That's why the price now is so close to the Arc GPUs, much more than it is to the eventual 4060 non-Ti. They know the 4060Ti doesn't stand a chance, not at least at this price. The 4060 will be even more embarasing, but the A750 and the A770 have some really great potential.

[@kidbob44212]

I’d say decent round up, i would have included the RX 6600 but if it beats the XT then I’d say we don’t need to bother. Would like to know how many pci-e lanes it has as the 6600 only had 4 and it was shown to significantly slow things down running on pci-e 3.0

[@edue_mrb]

Only the 6500 and 6400 had 4 lanes. 6600 and 7600 both have 8 lanes and it doesn't make a difference whether its pcie 3.0 or 4.0.

[@brandonroeder2461]

Right back on the horse. Good on ya.

[@BlackReaper9]

I hope Jay is recovering well from the surgery 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@Craider79]

Again - RT performance in this tier doesn't matter! No one want's to sacrifice that much for a bit shinier reflections in a puddle of water. Like literally 29 AVERAGE fps in Cyberpunk 1080p RT - is dogshit and would feel pretty damn bad to actually play... so yeah - who cares about the benchmarks with it on? Mid range gamers are used to turning off the fluffy unnecessary stuff and just going balls to the wall on FPS. Do that test instead. What cards performs best at medium and high settings. How much can you actually get from a card like this when turning off the glitter?

[@JeffNoel]

Phil, you're doing great. Forget about yesterday's situation. Keep them coming.

[@GhostlyOnion]

Funny that you changed the title.

[@CellarDoorAU]

@JayzTwoCents Maybe we're spoiled by other Reviewers, but the lack of cards in comparison in the charts can be a little misleading, though we can appreciate the inclusion of the Intel card in there. Still, overall, a fair review and it's certainly all about the price end of the day and like Steve from Hardware Unboxed suggested, it's likely to see a price drop to around $250 or lil less, in a couple months, making this card a little more competitive with that used market, previous gen you well highlighted here.

[@legros731]

Seriously the used market argument is pure bullshit you could say the exact same thing for every gen

[@Patttogeno]

@@legros731 i agree with you, comparing mostly by price instead of performance will lead to wrong conclusion over time since price arent allways the same, the do change, actually it even changed before lunch and we will see how do they move. also if we compare 6600 vs 7600 we see it improved while if we see 3060ti vs 4060ti well... still isnt enought but hope the 7600xt, 7650xt (if there is) and 7700xt be show more of improved and not just like the refresh like nvidia did on 4060ti btw great that intel is improving quickly, wont buy them on this gen or in the next one but who know here from 2 gen ahead if keep improving it will be great for the market and consumers

[@dking1981]

Im really enjoying seeing Phil step in front of the camera more and more. Kudos to Phil!

[@jimflagg4009]

Would have been nice to have the 4060 and 4070 numbers up there too.

[@ssmeshedy]

And 4060Ti too 😅

[@Craider79]

6650 XT has been 250$ for months - and is now 240$ (MSI MECH 2X OC and the Sapphire PULSE) - and the 6750 XT has been 380$ for a while now.

[@ManinaCanArmoury]

Good job keeping the flag flying man!

[@billchildress9756]

SO! I made the right choice by getting a ARC A770. It won't beat any high end cards but at 350.00 I think I bought a High end card! Way to go Intel!! BTW mine has 16gb of mem.

[@SneakiShinobi]

Loved the tone of this review, very optimistic yet still straight forward. I get that being “outraged” at GPUs is trendy right now but it distracts from the fact that it’s still a cool new piece of tech. Great review Phil!

[@JackJohnson-br4qr]

Yeah because being sheep for 6 years straight is so original. 😂

[@SneakiShinobi]

@@JackJohnson-br4qr lmao Sheep? Go be triggered about something you aren’t gonna buy somewhere else

[@fermitupoupon1754]

I guess there's a big difference in HW prices around the world, because over here the RX7600 costs 299 euro, A750 is a 199 euro card, A770 is 314 euro, 3060 and 3050 are starting to get sold out for some odd reason. 4060Ti goes for about 420 euro. So yeah, unless the RX7600 goes down to say 235 euro or so, I don't really see where it's supposed to fit in the market. Apart from the fact that Intel ARC is basically the great unknown for a lot of people, at 300 euro the A770 is probably the best bang for the buck. If you're looking at more expensive 3060Ti models that are still for sale, just spend 20 euro more and get a 4060Ti instead. And then there's still the other side of things, where Cuda and Tensor cores just reign supreme. So there's that advantage to the 4060Ti as well. For me this was no small part in the decision to go with nVidia. 4070 was the best option at my price point, because AMD simply isn't supported in a few key applications for my use case.

[@TeeJizzm]

I respect the position you guys took with the video yesterday. Would it have been too soon to include comparisons to the 4060ti? I assume you'd collected all of the same data, anyway.

[@Wolek96]

4060 Ti its totally different price point,plus it has more performance out of the box. I guess RX 7600 will be compared with RTX 4060 (non Ti).

[@Voltaic_Fire]

8GB just isn't enough, AMD knew this going in. An extra 8GB would have only cost an extra $20, they were a fool not to include it.

[@Ghastly10]

If they made it 12GB then the original MSRP of $300 would have been easier to swallow. But even better would of been 16GB, unless they are saving that for their later cards.

[@stevenlevernier7357]

Phil has to be the most clutch tech reviewer. The hero we don’t deserve, but the one we needed!

[@92BelluS]

Yeh we saw his "clutch" 4060 review. Lmaaao

[@Immudzen]

Good job. I know it is hard to present this stuff without Jay but you did fine.

[@marcialpena2730]

Im honestly more hype for Phil hosting than the cards coming out.

[@kathleendelcourt8136]

It's not horrible but still clearly not enough to conquer the entry level GPU market. The drop to $270 is welcome but won't really cut it given the current prices of the RX 6600XT, 6650XT and 6700. And most people will chose a $300 RTX 4060 over a $270 RX 7600 .

[@Gameboy_0998]

I wonder how the XT variant going to perform. And I wish RX 7700 XT to be the God tier for midrange cards. I have a 6700xt and waiting to upgrade.

[@ShaiyaSin1]

I've just upgraded RTX 3060 Ti to a RTX 4070. The old card started to make weird fan noises, and in the last year or so, temperatures raised and the graphic card got extremely hot. Even after turning On my PC, the card idle in higher temperatures. It got to the point when certain games that it worked well before would crashed. I've always kept the internal PC case and the graphical clean, and every month I've would airblow inside the case, take out components and clean them separately, put it back in, just doing my regular monthly maintenance. But I do not understand what could caused the graphic card to work badly. Now I do not feel bad purchasing a RTX 4070 :)

[@OCX600RR]

@@ShaiyaSin1 Can happen with any component that has a cooler on it. Probably needed new thermal paste. Doesn't really have anything to do with the 3060Ti chip itself and more with the cooler.

[@tylerdruer]

MORE Phil, I love it. Chop the video to make it super fast, point to point, and half as long.

[@jeantechnoir7702]

If anything, this video is good advertisement for the Intel A750, can't wait to see what they'll release next, good job Intel, keep it up.

[@Dan-Simms]

Yeah I can't wait to see what battlemage will be like when it comes, and that A750 at only $200usd now is a great budget card.

[@Azurantine81]

I am honestly now seriously considering my next GPU upgrade to most likely be the Intel A770, not something I ever would have said a couple of years ago.

[@phoenixrising4995]

Ray tracing is impressive and the card has the bandwidth to drive it, plus more VRAM than most 30 and 40 series cards. Nvidia better shape up in 5000 series or they are fucked when Battlemage slaughters their midrange for half the price. 😂😂