AMD Dropped Prices! Is it enough? 4070 Ti Super vs 7900 XTX: The Ultimate Comparison!!!

[@Jason-ol1ty]

I now realize the main advantage to having a higher resolution better display setup is to see mini-Daniel better.

[@kotztotz3530]

I need to see Daniel Owen in 4K to admire his beautiful face :D

[@graphguy]

🤮

[@filip9587]

Right now, in the UK, the cheapest 7900XTX can be found for £800, only £23 more over the cheapest 4070 ti Super.

[@Angel7black]

Well thats actually a decent option and price point and makes it super competitive with the… 4070 Ti… Super… I dont trust RDNA3 with all the issues but if you dont have issues with it or car about RT or upscaling thats an excellent buy

[@dscdscdscdscdsc]

​@@Angel7blackrt doesn't matter, dlss does

[@TheKims82]

Is £800 the price you pay or do you have to pay for VAT aswell?

[@jorge69696]

@@dscdscdscdscdsc Maybe you didn't realize but some games already have mandatory RT. Of course it matters.

[@Lennox032]

@@jorge69696no-one cares about raytracing turn it off for buttery smooth gameplay not some fancy shadows.

[@recherth.robert]

Bro the fire alarm part scared the shit out of me, it was middle of the night, and it just start beeping, i did not know what it was.

[@sitordan]

11:23 I thought that was my fire alarm. Don't scare me like that. :P

[@AlchemyfromAshes]

Throwing this out there as a PSA, many games offer the ability to turn off/on various graphic options in their advanced menus, including aspects of ray tracing. Most are aware of this, but you are likely doing yourself a disservice if you don't tweak those settings to your personal liking. Setting everything to ultra + max ray tracing is fun when you have the hardware to do it, but if you A/B each setting you will likely notice that there are several of them in many games where there is very little to no visual difference but the performance hit can be a lot. There are videos online A/B'ing all the various settings for many games (beware of making decisions purely based on KZbin compressed video!). You can use them as a guide to do your own comparisons and turn off features that you don't notice much difference with. This can be especially useful for games that let you turn off separate ray tracing features when using AMD cards. I have a 7900xtx and have recently been playing Dying Light 2. Just cranking everything up to max with FSR Quality and full ray tracing at 4K I was getting in the lower to mid 60s FPS. After poking around and turning off a couple ray tracing options, and downgrading a couple settings to medium that I couldn't tell the difference in game, I was able to get a steady 89 FPS which feels so much better and all it cost me was some settings I have a very hard time noticing anyway and one I didn't like being on. It wasn't many options either (2 ray tracing and 2 raster settings). This can be useful for any GPU to maximize performance, but is super handy for AMD cards that struggle with ray tracing but perform competitively with raster when the options are there. I get to keep the parts of ray tracing that I DO notice while getting rid of a lot of the performance hit of the things I don't notice or personally don't like. It takes a little time, but the pay off can be significant in many AAA titles. Just because they added a graphic feature in doesn't mean they did a good enough job with it to let it impact your FPS!

[@diamonshade7484]

They are too prideful too turn down settings tbh

[@DrLogic_]

@@diamonshade7484umm I aint spending 800 dollars+ on a modern card to reduce my settings

[@Sanctionedboss]

@@DrLogic_what card do you have?

[@DrLogic_]

@@Sanctionedboss 4070TI Super

[@mattblyther5426]

​@DrLogic_ won't turn settings down but will crank up dlss and lower resolution lol.

[@Mannu385]

In the UK, there's currently an offer for a 7900XTX for £799 while the cheapest 4070TiSuper is £760.

[@kamgaming4454]

yeah i just looked and its crazy, i am really considering it over the 1100 4080 Super

[@Baddmann1931]

@@kamgaming4454 save up !go for 4090

[@jerzy484]

@@kamgaming4454 Well it does absolutely destroy the 4080 super in raster and raytracing isn't even bad and the drivers literally have no issues for me. I'd say definitely get the 7900xtx

[@sapphyrus]

@@jerzy484 “Raytracing isn’t bad” While absolutely destroyed in RT in the video.

[@jerzy484]

@@sapphyrus Yes it may be better but the raytracing performance isn't bad if you would've read my comment.

[@papalazarou7880]

Bought the Asus TUF GAMING 7900XTX for £999 last year and I’m well happy with it. I only play multiplayer so am not worried about Ray Tracing… I just like max frame rate 😎

[@jernaugurgeh451]

11:20 I thought that was my fire alarm! I actually got up to check it and then you said it was yours. How exciting! Anyway, I found an XTX at a UK retailer for £799, almost £200 off its original price. The cheapest 4070 Ti Super at the same site is only £20 cheaper. (prices include tax)

[@adamburch1296]

This video makes me glad I snagged a 7900 XTX for $800 USD.

[@Lynxique]

in EU XTX costs 1k USD vs 1k USD 4080... so no point buying XTX here

[@ImaITman]

Yup, I got my red devil for $900 which was an amazing price for a rock solid card.

[@jerzy484]

@@Lynxique 7900xtx still demolishes the 4080 in raster so i'd say there is a very good point

[@Adrian-is6qn]

@@Lynxique Untrue you can get 7900XTX in EU as low as 850 on sales while 4080 never drops below 1k.

[@moldyshishkabob]

You lucky dog! I thought I was lucky getting a card in the upper $800s.

[@fretbuzzly]

The thing that really stands out to me is the 4070 Ti Super is doing the same job for 100+ watts less in some cases. I really want to support AMD, but things like that are hard to ignore. It reminds me of the comparison of the 4070 to the 3090 I think it was, same thing, 3090 is much more power hungry and also has 24GB of VRAM. I'm still running a 1080Ti but looking to upgrade because...because...hmmm...

[@verde5738]

@@marks9233 You can do the same with the Nvidia GPU and save even more money, so your logic doesn't work.

[@ChucklesMcChuckleson]

People love to poop on Nvidia but I agree with your take. I was shocked by these numbers, but it's true that the ti Super is doing the same job for less money and less wattage. Add in DLSS, and the 4070 super blows it away. I can get a used 4070ti Super for $650-680 right now. I want to love AMD but there's no denying the numbers here. 16gb will be good enough for a long time.

[@pitochu19]

I started looking at my fire alarm. I appreciate the unexpected things that happen in your videos😂.

[@cowboythe1st216]

Bro, your fire alarm sound made me grt up and check my entire house.....

[@simracingchannel7691]

Daniel got everyone running for their fire extinguisher lmao

[@SugarGlass]

Nvidia charging 800 for a 4070ti super is just outrageous.

[@donmike2810]

A few Xtx just barely getting to 900 now is just as bad lmao

[@alvar891]

Yeah. Amd is scalping ppl aswell. They are no better than nvidia.If they were faster than nvidia they would also ask a fortune for a low vram card. @@donmike2810

[@Hadouken9000]

Just for fun: You could build a TOP OF THE LINE computer right now, with an i9 or a 7950x3d and the fastest DDR5 RAM on the market... and it would still cost you less than the damn GPU itself. So you could put something together, but you'll have to save up for a long time in order to be able to get a dedicated GPU in it... or maybe you could find something cheaper but it'll be mid range and bottleneck your CPU.... So what's the point? The scalpers, AI and Crypto Bros essentially took out any motivation I had to try and get myself back into PC gaming and play current games at decent settings.

[@mosesdavid5536]

@@Hadouken9000 Whats your current gpu?

[@WilFitzz]

solution? there isn't really one until AMD is more competitive

[@gruiadevil]

Problem with the "lowest priced models" is that there's no bad models on the 7900XTX. You should compare the same model, or at least the same class. Like a TUF with a TUF, or a TUF with a Pulse. Can't compare a PNY or Inno3D 2 fan model 4070TiSuper with a chonky 3 fan Pulse 7900XTX. In that instance, the difference is more of 50$. Which is the same what's here in the EU. 4070TiSuper is 950Euros (decent model), and 7900XTX is 1000Euros (decent model). Even if they would perform the same, 50$ for 8 more Gb VRAM to ensure peace of mind, I think it's worth it.

[@dvxAznxvb]

Vram on amd is always so awkward. The allocated is always so much higher but it never gets used as much; i suppose the bus width allows it to process it out but does that also mean it doesn’t produce enough images in the pipeline to keep in vram memory? Or does GDDR6 vs GDDR6X have that much difference?

[@lifemocker85]

Allocation doesnt mean usage

[@HunterTracks]

More VRAM total = more VRAM allocation = less system RAM usage and less compression, which means less pressure on the CPU.

[@snakeace0]

@@HunterTracks Well the 7800X3D is never gonna be the bottleneck in the foreseable future, so all that unefficient VRAM usage at lower speeds seems worse than higher speed 16gb of GDDR6X. I mean the results dont lie. I would think the 24GB of Vram would be better in a workenvironment and not in a gaming environment.

[@halloweenz]

I thought the fire alarm going off was mine LOL, great video as always!

[@medejae]

AMD needs to cut prices on their GPUs more. $100 less is not enough considering the feature set advantage that Nvidia has.

[@lifemocker85]

Features aint performance

[@luisgustavodossantosrodrig2005]

​@@lifemocker8525$ to 50$ less in all the line up and they will be the best amd generation in history

[@medejae]

@@lifemocker85 actually, stuff like DLSS frame generation DOES provide performance.

[@lifemocker85]

@@medejae wrong. fake frames aint performance

[@verde5738]

@@lifemocker85 DLSS literally is PERFORMANCE at virtually no quality loss, as opposed to shitty FSR.

[@GloriousCoffeeBun]

Kinda excited to see how the 5090 performs after the blackwell announcement even tho I won't be able to afford it

[@__Ognam]

I've been saving for the 5000 series I hope it isn't comically overpriced lol

[@sethdou10]

GB200 still uses 4nm, and Apple proved 3nm is not OK. So I don't think 50gpu would be impressive, especially the power usage.

[@26DeislerFCB]

get a job punk

[@BOPBOPBOPBOPBOPBOPOB]

Even if you could afford the 5090 you wouldn’t even be able to buy it anyways since nvidia said they want to focus on AI customers and that people should not expect much RTX 5000 supply lmao

[@lucaschenJC]

@@__Ognamget ready to pay $3500

[@Bussigt]

The 100W (!) extra power draw from the 7900XTX is actually relevant when it comes to this comparison. 100W at 50 hours per week, at $0.10 per kWh, is $26 a year. Say you intend to keep the GPU for the next 4 years, the cost gap to 4070TiS will increase to $200. Even compared with the more power hungry 4080S, that card will still save you $20 a year in the same usage scenario, closing the gap as you go. In my country the price difference between these two cards is actually less than $70 right now, there's no way I would even consider going with AMD. Resale value also comes into play, and my guess is that you'll get a better price for a used 4080S in a couple of years than a 7900XTX. It's (seems) more recent and is more PSU friendly, which might be a big deal for someone looking to upgrade an old rig. I think AMD needs to bring the price down to match the 4070TiS to stay competitive. Like one comment said: he found a 7900XTX on sale for less than a 4070TiS, and ended up with team red because of it. That's what AMD should be aiming for - globally.

[@Nareimooncatt]

I'm all about finding good values, but if saving $20 per year ($1.67/mo) is a make or break decision for you, you have much bigger problems than the efficiency of higher end graphics cards. Skip a cup of coffee at the gas station (not even talking Starbucks here) and you'll save enough to offset that cost difference. Or maybe cut back on that 50 hrs of gaming to find something more productive to do. The resale argument is also something that baffles me. Everyone likes to insert resale values into these equations, but the question I have is how does the resale value change the performance of the card when I'm using it? Why would I want to buy a potentially worse card, and have a lesser experience with it in favor of selling it at a higher price in the future? And that's assuming the resale values stay consistent, which isn't a guarantee.

[@patrickstar3820]

If you're keeping a 4k gpu for the next 4 years. Get the xtx. We're already seeing 12GB VRAM taking hits. In the next 4 years, 4k games will be hitting that 16k VRAM. That or wait until the next set of GPUs.

[@HunterTracks]

50 hours a week?! That's more than 7 hours a day, how the hell do you find the time?

[@HafeezBlackLeg]

@@HunterTracks we call it unemployment

[@marcelosoares7148]

I don't know about that. If someone has time to game 50 hours per week and still has that spare money to drop on an expensive GPU, they're probably earning enough already to not care about $20 per year.

[@fluttzkrieg4392]

I was lucky and found a listing for the Sapphire XTX Nitro+ on Amazon for around ¥143000 (US$925), but Amazon gave me around 7000 points for it (1 point = ¥1), so in reality I paid around ¥136000. Crazy considering the next best price I found was around ¥210000 (US$1350) Though since it's imported directly from the US, the warranty doesn't apply, so I gotta pray it doesn't fail anytime soon.

[@Vrochillguy]

7900 xtx or 4070 ti super which is better for gooning sessions 16k deviantart and which is better to comeinside the gpu?

[@verde5738]

Yes.

[@CS-pl8fc]

Comparing just the price increase of the GPU to the performance increase is a little silly. If I'm going to build a new computer with either of these cards, it's going to be at least $2k. So yeah, it's a 13% price increase from GPU to GPU, but it's only a 5% increase in the total system cost, and it's still an 18% performance increase.

[@KarlTheExpert]

That makes zero sense. You‘re paying more for that one component so they need to be compared based on that. Also lots of ppl will just upgrade their GPU. Even if not how can he predict the cost of your PC? Does a 4090 suddenly become cheap because the other stuff costs 8.000$? Do the math yourself, the data is there, Daniel can only work with hard, universal numbers not some random ones. What a silly comment and it gets more nonsensical the more I think about it. 😂

[@CS-pl8fc]

@@KarlTheExpert @KarlTheExpert most people aren't only upgrading the GPU. Most people are buying prebuilts. And the people who do build their own, they are building an entire computer or upgrading more than one component. Comparing the price of only the GPU doesn't make sense, because it does not function on its own. When people compare price to performance of a car, they don't just look at the price and performance of the engine. The point still stands. If you're building a computer, buying a prebuilt, or upgrading more than one component, looking at only GPU price to performance is foolish. Obviously Daniel can't do total system cost for every conceivable build, but he could use an example to teach morons like you how to do it themselves. Saying that "X GPU is 15% faster than Y GPU but costs 18% more , therefore it is a bad deal" is stupid, because if you were to buy or build a computer, the performance vs total system cost would be higher for the build with X gpu. So, if you listen to you or Daniel's price to performance nonsense, you're going to get less performance per dollar and smugly think you got the better deal.

[@CS-pl8fc]

@@KarlTheExpert the fact you can't understand it doesn't mean it's nonsensical, and the fact you use a crying laughing emoji doesn't mean you're funny. Most people aren't upgrading a single component. They are building an entire computer or upgrading multiple components. Obviously Daniel can't do a breakdown of every conceivable build, but what he is doing is teaching people to calculate price vs performance on a single component. If you use that logic with GPUs when building an entire computer or upgrading multiple components, it is a mistake. Saying "X gpu is only 10% faster but costs 15% more than Y gpu, therefore X is a bad deal" will almost always be incorrect when building or upgrading multiple components. The final build with X gpu will still be 10% faster, and you will not pay 10% more, let alone 15% more money for your computer. And yes, a 4090 does become a better deal when you factor in the other components, whether they are $8k or not, as it is only a fraction of the total cost. The reason why you typically prioritize your GPU and cut costs elsewhere is because an extra $100 towards a GPU will give more performance gain than spending an extra $100 on a motherboard for example. I don't know what you claim to be an expert on, but your lack of understanding of basic concepts is pretty embarrassing.

[@harmony-b4m]

​@CS-pl8fc regardless of all of that, and I do see your point, that the percentage increase in cost is lower if using a higher number such the entire build, the direct comparison is still valued. You can spend 100k on a PC all you want, but the reality is that by you're still getting less value out of specific component compared to the cheaper one.

[@Rosenix]

Legit one of my new favorite channels as these videos are very helpful. I'm currently using a 1080 TI at 3440x1440 and been looking at upgrading tempted to hold on till the next gen of 50 series and AMD's 8000 series too though lol.

[@MrAnimescrazy]

What is going to be your budget?

[@Rosenix]

@@MrAnimescrazy Under 1k though I'll likely need a new psu depending on the card since I'm still running off a 650W lol.

[@MrAnimescrazy]

@Rosenix if the 1k budget is just for the gpu then you can get a 4070 super and for the power supply the 2023 rm750e or the rm850e for extra room. If the 1k is for an entire build I will get back to you.

[@Rosenix]

@@MrAnimescrazy Sweet! Yh would just be the GPU and PSU for now :D

[@MrAnimescrazy]

@Rosenix I would go one step further and get the 4070 ti super. You can get the pny version or the gigabyte windforce version and go with the rm750e or the rm850e power supply.

[@raheenb]

I started with an RTX 4070 Super, which i returned for a RX 7900, and then returned that for a 4070 Ti Super OC. I play on a 65" Samsung S90C and I like my games to look as "pretty" as possible so ray tracing is important to me, not to mention I had issues with games on the AMD card that just weren't happening on any NVIDIA card. I'd stick with my 4070 Ti Super any day, ever over the XTX if they were the same price.

[@MrAnimescrazy]

What are the rest of your specs?

[@caliginousmoira8565]

why not just get a 4090 then?

[@pituguli5816]

@@caliginousmoira8565 Because RT is important to him, sarcasm. Buys a 4070Ti Super for RT then buys a $3000 TV then uses DLSS quality to downscale to 1440p or performance mode to downscale to 1080p on a 4k panel.. Please make it make sense.. But games have to look "pretty"..

[@Edge9404]

@@pituguli5816 Graphics whores are extremely obnoxious and one of the big reasons why AAA is trash these days.

[@snakeace0]

@@pituguli5816 Its not downscaling. The internal resolution of DLSS Quality is 1440p, nothing is downscaled. The ML algorithms then reconstructs and UPSCALES to an image that is actually BETTER than the native picture at 4K because the image is much more stable for thinner objects that would still alias even at 4k. Digital foundry has shown this time and time again. I myself prefer the image im getting with DLSS quality. So even if i didnt double my framerate with DLSS , i would still use it for a better image. DLSS 3.0 is literaly black magic in comparison to DLSS 1.9. It seems like AMD users havent realized it yet. Hell AMD has yet to reach the DLSS 2.0 level of quality with their FSR solution. And to top it all off, the Nvidia cards have their tensor cores which are specifically there to deal with these ML solutions, while AMD has to do it with Brute force on normal cores. Nvidia was smart and coupled their hardware with their software in a way that achieves incredible performance when using any reconstruction and especially when calculating rays. In fact, without Nvidia we wouldnt have real time raytracing or pathtracing in games. So he is infact ahead with that 4070 when it comes to image quality and performance. Your 24gb of Vram also isnt GDDR6x is it? So many misconceptions and the endresult is a flagship card that lags behind the mid tier card of its competition. AMD needs to innovate in the GPU space like it did in the CPU space.

[@michaelthompson9798]

2:30 Daniel going all inception 😅😂🤣😅🤣🤣

[@CrazO9111]

Problem is Ray traycing and power consumption/Heat with the 7900 xtx.

[@lifemocker85]

rt is not a thing yet and undervolt fixes power

[@luisgustavodossantosrodrig2005]

Maybe in 8000 they find a way to close the gap for some miracle 😅😅😅

[@sapphyrus]

If one will use ray-tracing, then 4070tiS. If not, then 7900XTX. That said, if I paid a 900$ for a brand new GPU and then turned down graphics options to make it playable, I'd regret my purchase. That's why I ended up buying 4070tiS myself.

[@lifemocker85]

Overpriced

[@sapphyrus]

@@lifemocker85 Welcome to 2024.

[@morpheus_9]

The 7900XTX is 20% faster??

[@sapphyrus]

@@morpheus_9 Not in games with cutting edge graphics.

[@bes12000]

RT works perfectly fine on a 7900XTX if you don't go all out and stick to like med settings, some games you get like 100 fps with maxed out RT though

[@dolan_plz]

Hey Daniel! How's it going? 🙂

[@danielowentech]

Pretty good!

[@dolan_plz]

@@danielowentech I hope students are behaving themselves! 😄Great video btw.

[@erfgthygreas1709]

​@@danielowentechWill you be doing any hand helds like legion go vs rog ally vs steam deck comparisons?​

[@defluppe]

Did you give Fluid Motion Frames a try on the AMD card how did you like it?

[@justinf2896]

Just got the XTX for $790 ($830 post tax), cheaper than a 4070 Ti Super. I'm super excited

[@lifemocker85]

Overpaid

[@cherry8385]

Only $40 tax? No shot

[@acidfluff5910]

@@lifemocker85no he got a good deal

[@rodiculous9464]

Enjoy your 110c hotspot, they keep cutting the price bc they know they fucked up with the chiplet architecture and the cards are gonna all drop dead from heat issues soon

[@justinf2896]

@@rodiculous9464 What you smokin bruv

[@Cloud-fy3np]

Just bought the 4070 ti super slightly discounted

[@lifemocker85]

Overpaid

[@Archon331]

​@@lifemocker85 which higher end GPU isnt overpriced nowadays? Like sure dude I would love to get 4080 for 700 bucks just because 1080Ti was that much when it came out, but its just not happening and its never going to happen again.

[@lifemocker85]

@@Archon331 1080ti was also overpriced

[@joshuagray219]

@@lifemocker85 one of the best price to performance card. maybe ur just broke

[@lifemocker85]

@@joshuagray219 pascal started overpricing

[@PfcJs]

On the Canadian version of Newegg, the 4080 super and the cheapest 7900 XTX are within $20 of each other. The 7900 XTX is still too expensive in Canada. :(

[@olivur_1459]

I'd get a 4080 Super for the same price.

[@nickwu4384]

No reason to complain since you have a clear choice.

[@SpeedyW40]

In second hand market, 7900xtx is $500 less than 4080

[@nickwu4384]

@@SpeedyW40 stop the cap please

[@crazzy4194]

The way I see it, the 7900xtx has rasterized performance similar to 4080 super, and RT performance similar to the 4070 ti super

[@Daniel.AJ.R]

similar? wtf in cyberpunk is about 70% more powerfull in raytracing alan wake the same how is it similar wtf

[@anthonyreynoza8535]

Just returned my 7900gre to get a 4070ti super . I paid and extra 200 but its definitely worth it. Dlss is way better and its so much more stable . Every amd card I ever had gave me problems. Its always something with amd gpus. Fs3 doesn't work in a few games that its supposed to. The only regret i have is i should have saved money and went with the 4070super. I was worried about vram but in the games i been playing 12gb was enough .

[@BeyondGravityFPV]

Got the 79xtx for £670 and its a beast, does the job and heats up the room.

[@Sp3cialk304]

I had a Rx 6800 and upgraded to a 4070 Super. My reason for upgrading wasn't really for raster performance. It was for RT and more importantly new AAA and AA games only offer TAA and FXAA. As other anti aliasing tech is to demanding for the detail and poly counts in modern games. Hardware Unboxed tested DLSS vs native at 4k and 1440p for image quality. They had DLSS quality winning more than not. And the wins where all in newer titles. I also find DLSS quality to look better. Less blur, less instability, less flickering and better denoising than native. Getting better than 1080p performance at 1440p was just a bonus.

[@ZenAndPsychedelicHealingCenter]

DLSS doesn't look better than native lol. It literally can't as you can't put in information that wasn't there to begin with. That's not how it works. Also, nobody who knows what they're doing would buy a GPU purely for ray tracing. That's just laughable.

[@Sp3cialk304]

@@ZenAndPsychedelicHealingCenter I guess you think Hardware Unboxed, Digital Foundry and 90 percent of PC gamers are wrong. It looks better because TAA and or FXAA cause dithering (blurring) and instability. And MSAA/SSAA are not available in modern games(it's to demanding). TAA uses basic filters to do what DLAA does. DLAA is world's ahead of any other form of AA. Maybe you haven't played at 1440p or haven't used DLSS in the last two years. That years behind mentality is why people still say Radeon has bad drivers (when there drivers have been fine for a few years).

[@lifemocker85]

@@Sp3cialk304 they say that native is the best

[@Sp3cialk304]

@@lifemocker85 they had a chart. DLSS Quality at 1440p had more wins than native. At 4k dlss Quality had more wins than native. Native did beat DLSS performance at 4k. At 1080p native will be slightly better, because 1080p is so blurry that FXAA and TAA dithering is harder to notice.

[@JordanJ01]

@@ZenAndPsychedelicHealingCenter it does LMFAO, it replaces regular methods of AA and does a better job. Cope, you sound sour. "No one would buy a GPU just for ray-tracing, that's laughable" Dude it's not 2019 anymore lol, basically any new game that comes out has some form of ray-tracing and UE5 is being used by nearly every new game which has Lumen/hardware ray-tracing. DLAA isn't arguable, it looks better and performs better.

[@Bigodega]

What you see when ray tracing ON ? 90% of games -- nothing. When you are playing you are not looking for your reflections in the puddle, you are focused on the enemies.

[@CosmicApe]

I don't like RT because it just makes everything look wet and doesn't look realistic to me.

[@viniqf]

To be honest, at this point, unless you want better RT, DLSS, DLDSR and other Nvidia features, there's not much of a reason to get the 4070ti Super over the 7900XTX. They're from different performance tiers, and without RT, the XTX just crushes the 4070ti Super.

[@Torso6131]

@viniqf We're in a really weird spot where Nvidia just has better image quality when resolution is equalized. I have a 6700xt, and I'll probably try to squeeze another generation out of it, but I can't lie, FSR2/3 is in dire need of a visual upgrade. Hasn't been a new revision in well over a year now if I recall correctly (FSR3 still uses FSR2.2). That being said, in this case, why bother reconstructing at all when you can just run at higher native resolution? At least with UE5 games coming up TSR is as far as I'm concerned "good enough" for reconstruction.

[@SugarGlass]

Unfortunately I think the next FSR upgrade will be on the hardware sign of things by implementing AI@@Torso6131

[@noobgamer4709]

@@Torso6131 If you are using 6700xt you should have realize that FSR with AMD card is not as bad as people keep saying. FSR is made by AMD to utilize the best of their own gpu. FSR on AMD is using 2xFP16 per each FP32. technically, it can do the same on nvidia too BUT nvidia can just limit this on driver level and just emulate 1xFP16 per each FP32. Ancient Gameplay Fabio just release a video with FSR on AMD VS FSR on NVIDIA. it a 4070s vs 7800xt and 4070 with FSR quality has way more shimmering than 7800xt with FSR quality. Yes DLSS is better but FSR on AMD isn't as bad as people are saying. Most comparison is done on 4090 DLSS VS FSR. and from that video you can see why FSR is worse.

[@Torso6131]

@@noobgamer4709 I mean, in my estimation FSR just looks worse than TSR overall, even if TSR is heavier. I'd take TSR balanced over FSR2 Quality at 1440p and 4k (Haven't tried it at 1080p, but I'm playing on my TV right now). That's only with the Tekken 8 demo and Ghostwire Tokyo though. Also didn't digital foundry find that FSR2 actually runs faster on nvidia GPU's than RDNA2 AMD ones? I don't see how they could look visually different if they're taking the same inputs and the algorithm is doing the same thing. If anything what you're saying would make it possibly run faster on AMD equivalent hardware, it shouldn't do anything in terms of quality right? I do like Ancient Gamplays' videos though, I'll have to check that one out. What's the video title? I just see the FSR3 in TLOU.

[@noobgamer4709]

@@Torso6131 AMD FSR3 Frame Generation arrives to The Last of Us... BUT... is the title. also you need to see it for yourself. he didnt put it side by side comparison. i watch the footage he provide on screen for both card, 4070s around 8min mark and 7800xt at 14-15min ish mark. i been using FSR2/3mod / TSR in Palworld and didn't notice any quality difference there. i also tried AFMF with palword. but i did chose TSR(no quality setting just TSR since it doesnt have any) with AFMF in that game due to FSR2/3mod will either have a very glitchy UI(FSR3) or completely broken when entering dungeon(FSR2). while using FSR2 only mod, i didnt notice any quality drop like people always mention. I forgot to mention that RDNA 3 do have dual issue cu. not sure if it does utilize it or not. since the video is comparing 4070s to 7800xt. if it does, that mean FSR do benefit from RDNA 3 to have better image quality. but as i mention before, DLSS is nvidia marketing tech for RTX. they probably limit it to1xFP16 per each FP32 compute. other wise they will lose their DLSS marketing advantage with FSR being so close to DLSS in image quality.

[@sabiplaypuzzles7332]

@DanielOwen do you also exist as a mouse pointer?

[@yeagershots]

Every month sees a some sorta GPU price drop, hope it keeps going that way.

[@TheQuebecerInFrance]

In Canada we do not have this deal. The 7900xtx is slightly lower than a 4080s asus tuf that I biught

[@Games_and_Tech]

When you see the 4070ti super clock going to 2790 mhz you it is going close to the limit, when you see the 7900xtx going to 2500 mhz you know there is at least 10% more performance on the table...

[@Games_and_Tech]

Lord of the fallen 4k ultra the 7900xtx was clocking at 2350 mhz... WTF?

[@sethdou10]

you should also consider the cost of psu by choosing 7900xtx.

[@lifemocker85]

750w can handle everything

[@ofon2000]

as well as the cost of ownership for the XTX if one plans on keeping the GPU any longer...as well as the need for extra air-conditioning and idle power draw :)

[@HunterTracks]

It literally consumes like 35W more under load, I doubt there's a difference.

[@Grstrangler]

@@lifemocker85 That's not exactly true. Especially with the 7900XTX. With a Be quiet pure power 850W my XTX wasn't stable on stock settings. There are many threads where people complaining about stability issues with less than a 1000W psu.

[@IceNinja2007]

​@@Grstranglerwhat CPU's were they running? If they were all using overclocked 13/14th gen Intel chips I could see where they would have a PSU bottleneck.

[@johndelabretonne2373]

The ideal price structure from AMD... $200 7600 $250 7600 XT $330 7700 XT $450 7800 XT $500 7900 GRE $600 7900 XT $800 7900 XTX Easy enough to have a winning generation!

[@lifemocker85]

Youre overpricing them also. GRE is max 450 after taxes gpu

[@kindpanda1075]

THANK YOU!!! I had some issues, and have now got these two cards. I have the ability to take one back. I have been looking for a direct comparison between these two.

[@morpheus_9]

The 4060 is a piece of shit, its not even faster than the 3060 Ti. The 4060 Ti is a piece of shit, it isnt even faster than the 3070. The 4070 is a piece of shit, it isnt even faster than the 3070 Ti. The 4070 Super should have been the 4070 to begin with at $499 or $549 at the most. 4070 Ti should have been the 4070 Ti super to begin with at $699-$719. 4080 should have been the 4080 super at launch at $899. These prices are still high, $900 for an 80 class card is crazy but it is a lot better value than $1000. The 7900XT at $680-700 and the 7900XTX are the best value high end cards this gen. This generation is fucked.

[@BlackJesus8463]

I'm never buying an $800 70-class GPU and neither should you!

[@ChiBrianXIII]

Just say you’re broke and move on

[@buffgarfield5250]

@@ChiBrianXIIIYou're broke.

[@SirSomnolent]

I tend to agree. If this were the price when launched, sure. The problem is rdna 4 coming up, I wouldn't want to sink that much money and then 6 months later be looking at the 8900xtx stomping it... assuming AMD actually executes well in next release

[@lifemocker85]

​@@buffgarfield5250 you end up being broke if youre dumb with your money

[@subfail4810]

That's just smart and logical thinking

[@ipotato95]

Hate to say it but I think the 4070ti wins. It cost less so the performance drop is understandable, but the features are so much stronger

[@lifemocker85]

12gb gpus are just stupid in 2020s

[@nickwu4384]

@@lifemocker85except that the tisuper has 16gb

[@lifemocker85]

@@nickwu4384 he didnt talk about super. still its way overpriced

[@SnakePlissken001]

The 4070 Ti Super should have stronger resale value as well, if you ever plan on reselling. The market share for AMD cards is still lagging significantly behind Nvidia’s offerings.

[@nickwu4384]

@@SnakePlissken001 This is what AMD fanboys fail to understand when boating about how AMD is cheaper.

[@astraldivinityyy7852]

Now the pricing is pretty relevant because the cheapest rtx 4070 ti super is 800 on amazon, while the cheapest amd rx 7900 xtx is 926. So i calculated the price change and it is around 15%. So it is pretty clear to say to get the 7900xtx right now on used market or amazon. The people that say the temp issues you can undervolt the gpu a bit too to squeeze more performance and lowering the voltage.c

[@AsthmaQueen]

if you decide to get spicy as well, and flash unlocked bios, or modify the power limit via EVC, 7900xtx and easily push another 20-25% over its stock performance. Nvidia chips don't get this option for this level of scaling if you want to overclock

[@Br3ndan_]

How do you do this? Could you send me a tutorial video maybe?

[@LynruBF]

Thanks for comparision videos like this, it must take so much time to do. ❤

[@SaSo-mk6yh]

I would have considered them if they were at $600 but I guess we can't all have it easy.

[@lifemocker85]

4070TiS should be 450 max

[@Azhureus]

Im happy that the house didnt burn down so we can see another video in a near future :)

[@ehenningsen]

I do think the XTX and the 4070TI Super are better equivalents. Personally, i use the NVIDIA features so id still select the 4070TI Super over the XTX, but if the price is equal - it'd be a subjective preference.

[@GoonyMclinux]

Naaa, my 7900xt is faster than the 4070 super. I have both.

[@morpheus_9]

@@GoonyMclinuxyeah these people that would take the 4070 Ti Super over the XTX are on crack

[@GoonyMclinux]

@@morpheus_9 the xt would utterly trounce a 4070, the xtx would just be ridiculous to put it against.

[@Mopantsu]

@@morpheus_9if you are playing on a large display like a 55" or above OLED it's worth it for the image quality when enabling DLSS. AMD need to up their game on FSR. For instalce Jedia Survivor looks like ass using FSR.

[@ZenAndPsychedelicHealingCenter]

@@Mopantsu At 4k and above, you shouldn't need upscaling. If you do then the game is poorly coded and optimized to begin with. There is no real argument for getting the 4070 ti Super at it's present price, unless you heavily use Blender perhaps.

[@DavidBoggs-pk8nr]

Got an open box 4070 ti super for 722 bucks. (tuff OC) brand new, nothing wrong with it. Overclocked well, and been blasting any game :)

[@karim_isma]

The house alarm turned on probably cuz the 7900 xtx almost went on fire from Avatar benchmark

[@morpheus_9]

??? It only uses 40 more watts than the 4070 Ti Super…

[@astraldivinityyy7852]

Bruh how did it almost go on fire? The temps were steady around 72 degrees. If thats hot for you then i dont know what to tell you....

[@harrygarrison8344]

I went from 6800xt to 4070tis recently...the main factor for me was at that price I want to see the cutting edge path tracing etc...and neither the 7900xt or xtx can get there.

[@lifemocker85]

Even 4090 sux at pathtracing

[@luisgustavodossantosrodrig2005]

​@@lifemocker85the 7900xtx just die , so at least he have a good point to chose the 4070

[@BruceWaynge]

Can't believe how horribly optimized most of these newer titles are. If these cards aren't getting aboved 60 FPS on 4k ultra then that should be a wake up call for these game developers that something is wrong with their game.

[@Tanktaco]

Bro that alarm scared me!

[@gatiengrandsire6513]

At this point it really comes down to : Do you crave for shadows (Ray Tracing) so bad that you would not consider playing videogames on PC without it ? If so, Nvidia is an option. If not, you're getting a Significant Better deal buying AMD.

[@2023Red]

@Daniel. If the prices were the same, which would you purchase? 4070ti super, 4080. 7900xtx?

[@verde5738]

The 4080 is a no brainer if the pricing is the same.

[@astraldivinityyy7852]

​@verde5738 not necessarily, some people prefer raster over raytracing. So it's sort of a mixed bag response from other users.

[@verde5738]

@@astraldivinityyy7852 Those GPUs perform within a less than 5% margin in rasterized scenarios, which is imperceivable. The 4080 is objective better since it also comes with a complete feature set.

[@timothysullivan-pm3sl]

Absolutely loving my 4070ti super. I play on a 65 in 4k tv. So I like the better image quality and if I'm playing a game on my PC over my series x or PS5 I want the extra oomph for the ray tracing lol….love your vids man

[@Mopantsu]

Yep! You really notice the difference in PQ of DLLS vs FSR on that size screen. I have a 55" 120Hz VRR OLED and went all in (well not completely all in) with a 4080 Super. I know I paid more than what it SHOULD cost but I wanted to best PQ vs performance vs price I could get at 4K while maintaining over 60 fps. BTW DLAA and HDR for video (with upscaling) is awesome.

[@Hollywoodsuxs]

I couldn't see a difference going from console to pc but now today I game on pc I can easily see the difference

[@JamesRussoMillas]

4080 super still 1100+ all day those 999 prices are sold out

[@caribbaviator7058]

Not surprised. Still a better card than the 7900xtx minus the VRAM. Got mine exactly @MSRP!

[@newfjuice6691]

I ordered a 4070 ti super...but then the 7900xtx went on sale for $50 less than the 4070 so I ordered that. Now i dont know which one im going to keep and which im sending back.

[@Ilovecrumble]

I'm in the same boat man. I got a crazy deal on 4070 ti super prebuilt with i9 14900k. But the deal went live and I bought the 7900 xtx for 769. Idk what to do hahaa

[@newfjuice6691]

@@Ilovecrumble yeah man it's tough. On one had the 7900 seem to have more raw power...but the 4070 has way better ray tracing and upscaling that matches or beats the 7900. It's not "true" fps but it kinda doesn't matter. I'm leaning towards the 4070 one day and then back towards the 7900 the next

[@cinebox1646]

Just build two pcs and gift another PC to someone you want

[@newfjuice6691]

@@cinebox1646 funny. I went with the 4070 because the other one doesn't seem to support VR gaming too well. I may just say screw it and go up to a 4080.

[@Ilovecrumble]

​@newfjuice6691 it was good while it lasted right 😂 I decided to keep the 4070 ti super also and sent the 7900 xtx on its way.

[@JayzBeerz]

I'll take the 4070 ti Super thank you.

[@morpheus_9]

No. I will take the 7900XTX. Its 20% faster and has a better driver experience. Modern software unlike nvidias shitty 20 year old control panel

[@Mopantsu]

@@morpheus_9Nvidia are working on that.

[@JayzBeerz]

@@morpheus_9AMD is trash.

[@nickwu4384]

@@morpheus_9You do you, I’m not spending nearly a thousand bucks just to have inferior tech to a half a decade budget GPU like the 2060.

[@diamonshade7484]

​@Mopantsu just like amd is working on fsr

[@kotztotz3530]

AMD seems to struggle more with 1% lows. I am wondering if it's due to the chiplet design.

[@andre-le-bone-aparte]

@0:00 In this Episode, we finally meet his children. While holding both of his babies, we ask the question: who's your favorite child!?

[@katnerd-Glen]

Does AMD have an equivalent to nVidia's filters? I use the filters in the nVidia app to make games like FFXIV become more vibrant and remove the dull filter overlaying the base game. I also use the filters in lieu of ENB's for games like Skyrim, Cyberpunk, etc.

[@Argoon1981]

Yes AMD has "filters", they called it profiles, you can use already set video profiles (vivid is one of them) or you can go deep and create your own color/image profiles by tweaking colors and stuff by hand. To use those video profiles, is as easy as going to the drivers app, to the top right corner and click on the settings icon (cog symbol) and then click on the Audio and video tab and in there, you will see the profiles you can use. Like I said you can also edit video/image color by hand if that is what you want, just click on the profile called "personalized" or something like it (my drivers are not in english...) but this is a global setting. If in the other end, you want to set custom different color options per game, that can also be done, when you create a game profile in the game section, and these options will get used when you start a game. You can also tweak the colors in real time in-game with the drivers overlay by using alt+R key combo (if you didn't changed the default key shortcuts).

[@Gielderst]

I've got a 7900 XTX Red Devil Limited + Ryzen 7950X3D + X670E AORUS MASTER + 128GB RAM 4x 32 G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB 6400MHz CL32-39-39-102 1.40V + 1250W PSU + Cooler Master Cosmos C700M PC case + 3x 1TB M.2 NVMe SSDs + 1x 512GB HDD + 420mm AIO Arctic Liquid Freezer III ARGB. Am i good?

[@olivur_1459]

Beyond Good

[@Gielderst]

@olivur_1459 Thank you, i've been upgrading my RiG one thing at a time to get it to this. Can't wait for Zen 5/Ryzen 9950X3D + X870E mobos and RTX 5090 / RX 8900/9900 XTX. I'm an enthusiast lol 😆

[@Abra_Ka_Dabra_008]

No you need to upgrade that HDD... lol.

[@Gielderst]

@Abra_Ka_Dabra_008 haha 😄 i keep it for the nostalgia. It's from the year 2009. Still working but slower than a snail. I only have a few files stored on it, plus i also like to have that HDD LED blinking on my case panel lol, little things like that lol 😆

[@gamingfromjohnwayne]

I went to the 4070ti super cause my power supply is 700 watt and the 7900xtx needs way more but I'm happy withe the tuf card😊

[@icky_thump]

Love these videos, as I've been currently tempted to buy either a 7900XTX or a 4080 Super. This is a nice flipside to look at it with the new price cut. Keep up the great analysis!

[@clarkkentll5490]

What did you buy??

[@kenshirogenjuro873]

The mistake of naming what should be the 7900XT the XTX is made that much more obvious here

[@kenshirogenjuro873]

@brunoutechkaheeros1182 I’d have even gone another step and called the 7900XTX the 7800XT at launch. They should have saved the 7900XT moniker in the event they could release anything that matches the 4090 in raster. Then: 7900XT => 7800 7800XT => 7700XT 7700XT => 7700 This was closer to the naming scheme everyone expected based on chip sizes and architectures. Can’t tell me this doesn’t look a lot less gimmicky.

[@leagueaddict8357]

If they have anything that can match the 4090 it would most likely be a 80 series card since performance jump has to be pretty big, so I doubt they want it to be a normal release of a 70 series card. They kinda want the hype and free advertising of excited consumers rather than releasing it as just another 70 series card.@@kenshirogenjuro873

[@Greenalex89]

@@kenshirogenjuro873 Would be good marketing for AMD if the 7900xtx was named 7800 while beating the 4080 super..

[@mobarakjama5570]

@brunoutechkaheeros1182 AMD would've killed it, but hey! Nvidia can't run a duopoly without a partner. This should've been the real naming: 7900XTX = 7800XT 7900XT = 7800 7800XT = 7700XT 7700XT = 7700

[@vvhitevvizard_]

BOTH cards are extremely OVERPRICED

[@carpelunam]

agreed

[@GTR72]

I bought the 4070 TI super, it's the best card that's available in a dual fan config for SFF builds.

[@SnakePlissken001]

Did you buy the MSI Ventus 2X OC Edition? I returned mine because of the plastic backplate and BIOS issue. From what I’ve read, the three-fan solutions should be able to work for SFF builds as well, although with a tighter fit.

[@emp1985]

Performance-wise, XTX makes total sense over the 4070Ti S. Feature-wise, it depends on the specific individual considering the purchase. I do value DLSS considerably, and even more so power-efficiency. I'd take the 4070Ti S over the XTX any day.

[@jerzy484]

Power efficiency is great on the 7900XTX just takes more power than a 4070TI as it is a much higher end card. Also with FSR3 rapidly gaining games supported and AMD's CEO saying that AI Upscaling will be enabled for FSR later this year it seems like the 7900XTX is a really good choice over the 4070TI.

[@Mopantsu]

4070 Ti Super

[@emp1985]

@@Mopantsu Thank you sir, you're right. Corrected.

[@SiônDavies-b4p]

Bruh.. my Mrs and the baby are in bed, I'm downstairs making a build while listening to you from the PC, and all of a sudden I heard the fire alarm. My heart sunk and I was about to spring into action before I heard you say it was your alarm! LMAO

[@moichamoy2274]

Why keep Immortals of Aveum in your benchmarks? Game is basically irrelevant add in Helldivers 2 or some other popular game.

[@danielowentech]

Multiplayer games like Helldivers 2 are hard to use for benchmarking since you need to be able to repeat an identical segment on both GPUs. Immortals of Aveum only interesting because it is one of the few Unreal Engine 5 games that uses all major technologies from the engine along with both DLSS 3 and FSR 3.

[@hiho9149]

​@@danielowentechObviously not OP, but I think we share the same sentiment. We know it uses these technologies, but if the only games on the market using them are games nobody wants to play, it's kind of silly.

[@moichamoy2274]

​@@hiho9149 my thoughts exactly the same goes for games like Forspoken they are irrelevant very few people actually play those games. I rather see an older popular game than an irrelevant new game

[@HunterTracks]

@@danielowentech I think a recent patch has added FSR 3 to RoboCop, which would make it feature equivalent across both cards as well, maybe that would be good enough to abandon IoA? That said, the implementation of FSR there is still not the best, frame gen included.

[@k1cs1m3a8]

@@hiho9149the benchmarks are not made on preference. It’s made on engine performance. So yes, he needs to check that game as it use UE 5 engine and most of the new games will use the same engine.

[@TheLuis12198]

First time building a PC what would be a better combo, using the MicroCenter CPU bundles, a Ryzen 7800X3D with 7900 GRE ($1080) or Ryzen 7700X with 7900 XT($1120). Mostly gonna try to hit 4K or Ultra 1440P on a 4K 144 hz monitor. Also plan to use the PC for work if required if that makes a difference in choosing the CPU. Thoughts?

[@delicious_seabass]

I always say that raster is king. Ray tracing is cool, but not necessary. This proves it.

[@DarkflameZM]

Not right now, anyway, but by 2030, RT it will be in most AAA games, Intel and AMD should have caught up with Nvidia by then (in RT anyway, i am sure Nvidia will be ahead on PT by that point). I say this as both a 4080 laptop and 7900 XT owner.

[@caribbaviator7058]

Come on man we are in the 2020s. More and more games will continue to implement RT and PT. This is no excuse for AMD. They need to catch up. I won't be surprise if GTA 6 has some form of RT! I will always buy Nvidia unless AMD catches up! Something as simple as a rare game like X-PLANE 12 is unstable on AMD cards. Its the little things!

[@astraldivinityyy7852]

​@@caribbaviator7058 amd isn't that far off, the xtx's rt perf is equivalent to the ti super. So they are roughly 3 cards away compared to their 6000 cards lacking way behind the 3060.

[@Timmeh_The_tyrant]

I cant understand what AMD was thinking with the 7000 series. How could they screw up performance so badly.

[@Dassick89]

I had a 7900xtx i got for $860. I tried everything to get it to run smooth, but the card just always had fps drops. It was never smooth. Fresh windows install, update bios, drivers, ect. No programs installed other than a game. Didnt matter. Went back to my 3080, smooth as butter. I upgraded to an open box 4080S OC for just under $1000. Smooth as can be. If the lag spikes and framegen issues dont bother you, AMD is a value. Btw this happened on two different motherboards, CPU, ram, PSU. AND with two seperate 6900xt cards about a year ago. I just have bad luck eith AMD i guess.

[@IceNinja2007]

I'd say your case seems unique to you. I upgraded from a 3070 to a 6900XT(got for $650 open box) back in summer of 2021) and have had 0 GPU related issues. The only games I see stuttering in is Stalker, but that's because of the engine.

[@Dassick89]

@@IceNinja2007 the amd cards I tried were all open box items. It's possible each one was defective. Chances are low, but possible. Believe me, I wanted to keep that 7900xtx...

[@VanyaYlianov]

when i came from 7950 to gtx 1080 it was another universe in terms of comfort and stability but now i came back with xtx and there was no problems or difference in that

[@hong_1712]

I see many people complain with the driver and game crash. do you ever try rx 7900 xtx on video editing like adobe? is it good?

[@baukemid5735]

Sucks i hate 7800xt stutter all over de place to the shaders build then i upgrade to the 7900xtx and shutter more playing hell blade 2 walk shutter walk shutter walk shutter and the temps on the hotspot 94c nop i buy nvdia now bud dont know 4070 ti super or 4080 super

[@FatNorthernBigot]

Am I the only 7900XTX owner who's somewhat irritated by the current price drops? The early adopter tax is a be-yatch.

[@ask_carbon]

Imagine the grief of 3090ti owners.

[@ofon2000]

Um...you only lost 10% value. Can't be mad about that man.

[@KiNg0fShReD]

well, you pay more up front, but you get to game longer with that card instead of waiting for a price drop just to have them announce a new card after you purchase. discounts are usually a sign of something new on the horizon same thing goes for Ti’s and Super series. If you literally just bought the card full price then yes, i’d be irritated too.

[@meltinsr]

Well I'm not irritated coz I have the 7900xtx for almost a year now and it's normal to drop a 10%

[@ofon2000]

@@meltinsr That's the attitude sir...hope you've been enjoying your card.

[@tradix3570]

So.. Right now i can get 4070Ti super for the same price as 7900XTX.. The thing is, i really love the DLSS and Frame gen combo for 1440p, it just increases the performance by SO MUCH and i don't really see the visual difference. I also tend to play a lot of VR, in which AMD doesn't rly shine.. What are your thoughts guys?

[@bilL_at4k]

I disagree. 7900 XTX is already more value than 4080 super.... so it is more value than the 4070 ti super which you say yourself for 12% more money you get 18% more performance and you still say that the 7900 xtx needs more price cut.... I think you are a little nvidia fanboy Daniel...

[@Thejacketof-huang]

Uh and you are big fanboy scAMD 🤡 Keep coping AMBug. See my img avatar, is your gpu 💀

[@bilL_at4k]

@@Thejacketof-huang i'm not a fanboy. I just expect a fair opinion by a youtube channel and not a biased one. Nvidia cards are the ones that need price cut. I wish Nvidia cards had more reasonable prices here in Greece. 4070 Ti Super are 1000+ here and 4080 super are 1100-1400. I mean it makes more sense to buy a 7900 XTX for 850-900..

[@Thejacketof-huang]

@@bilL_at4k did you do a deep seach on price for rtx? Maybe you lost something

[@bilL_at4k]

@@Thejacketof-huang Of course i did a deep search. I built a new pc in early December. At first i wanted a 4090 when they were like 1500-1800 but they went 2200+ in November. I didn't like the 4080 which was at 1200-1600 so i ended up at 7900 xtx for 1000. It's not easy in Greece. Our salary doesn't allow us to buy expensive stuff, so i search for the best value i can get out of my money.

[@Thejacketof-huang]

@@bilL_at4k sorry for you but all radeons are obsolete cuz its architecture... you do wrong choice buddy. Next gen is here and all radeons are not capables for that

[@vac59]

Waiting for the 50 series. Sticking with my 3070 that I paid for 1200 during the mining boom 😅

[@rody2213]

Now factor AMD's driver problems with DX12 causing driver timeouts and Nvidia is the clear winner. Someone will read this and know what I'm talking about.

[@morpheus_9]

What are you talking about? I have 4 AMD gpus and no issues whatsoever.

[@caribbaviator7058]

@@morpheus_9 He is right depending on the game !! Their Vulkan drivers causes crashes in a game called X-PLANE 12 I use. The developers had to implement a plugin named ZINK to boost stability and performance on the AMD cards. Sticking with Nvidia. Never had any major issues with them. I bought an RX6800 in 2022 and that was the biggest mistake I've made. Sold it and moved on!

[@olivur_1459]

@@caribbaviator7058 Stop capping

[@Daisudori]

Only in wow classic tho.

[@isanvicente1974]

typical nvidia fanboy

[@ThatRandomOldGuy]

i have been waiting for this comparison forever

[@ChopPvP]

I feel like nobody needs anything above a 7800xt unless your some godly pro gamer who makes money from gaming.

[@Saito9IV]

4k displays are good reasoning for higher gpu.

[@ChopPvP]

@@Saito9IV well most people I should say then. Most people don’t play at 4k it’s either 1080 or 1440p and that won’t be changing soon.

[@evilleader1991]

who are you to tell what people need?

[@Saito9IV]

@@ChopPvP you'd be surprised how many setups include 4k displays such as tvs protectors ect. Just because primary display isn't 4k doesn't remove it as an option entirely

[@maxweinbach3996]

I actually thought my fire alarm went off

[@Later2u]

I just bought a 4070Ti Super. I prefer a more mature technology over one that needs it. That's also why I have an iPhone.

[@morpheus_9]

AMD is just as mature.

[@caribbaviator7058]

@@morpheus_9 They ain't. Worse upscaling, worse FG and worse RT performance.

[@ZenAndPsychedelicHealingCenter]

In other words, you get scammed by marketing hype lol. And no, the 7800 XT and above are not worse at upscaling compared to many Nvidia cards. The 7900 GRE and up also do better in RT in many contexts than the 470 ti Super.

[@lifemocker85]

thats why youre getting scammed out of your money

[@gatsusagara6637]

The most important feature set I'm looking for is VRAM. High res textures look incredible in 4k and 16gb VRAM isn't going to cut it. My next card might need more RT performance, but right now, I need more VRAM. 16 vs 24 GB means 50% VRAM increase so my modded texture packs can safely run at 4k for a while yet.

[@MrAnimescrazy]

What are your specs?

[@noobgamer4709]

also people need to understand that he use AMD MBA card. that is the weakest card in 7900xtx lineup. that msi card for 900usd will be faster than MBA AMD 7900xtx.

[@camdustin9164]

AMD base model usually only 2-3% slower, it is not that much of a difference. The 7900xtx is no exception.

[@nadermakram7765]

NVIDIA box without the green color looks great

[@TheTabaqa]

Damn son ,another video where you try hard to show nvidia is better than amd 😂 bro laterally every other normal review like hardware unboxed shows that 7900xtx is completely destroying 4070ti s for normal user and games . (Besides people lookin at reflection on some puddle etc 😅) Gg no re mate

[@ishiddddd4783]

i've been with amd for a long time, polaris, rdna2 and now rdna3, and currently im in a different boat to most amd users, i appreciate that amd is competing and giving people options to chose from, but rdna3 has given me so many problems on games, recording, clips, stability, and toolset, that i decided to switch my 7900xt for a 4070ti super. I know this isn't the case for everyone, some people might've had problems with ada, but on my system at least, the amount of problems i had with rdna3 in 6 months, eclipses the problems i had with rdna2 and polaris together in 6 years. And nvidias toolset ended up winning me over for modding, hopefully amd gets a lot of the problems sorted out, but it's part of the issues a lot of reviewers will glose over since they use the systems for a benchmark run.

[@tonep3168]

Yet more proof that today’s high-midrange cards are 1080p gaming cards only. Blackwell seriously needs to pick up the pace.

[@ofon2000]

Nvidia will do what's good for them until AMD provides decent enough competition, unfortunately. I wouldn't expect anything from Intel for another generation after Battlemage at the very least.

[@HunterTracks]

The cards do actually provide a decent uplift over their predecessors, even if they're way too overpriced. The issue is that game requirements are going up much quicker than GPU improvements.

[@ofon2000]

@@HunterTracks the 4060 over the 3060 is sort of a sidegrade as well as the 4060 ti

[@alvar891]

Better to change the way we look at it. Games do not need to be maxed out when they release. Those settings are for future cards. That way we save some money and do not stress about it. Also some years later we can replay them on a faster card and it will be like a remaster. It has been the same in the past with games like crysis1.

[@HunterTracks]

@@ofon2000 Well, yeah, both AMD and Nvidia have basically shifted their lineups down a tier. What I'm talking about is performance relative to market position, so stuff like 3070 to 4070 Ti and 6800 XT to 7900 XT.

[@remingtonA123]

The 7900xtx taichi edition from asrock is a overclocked out of the box triple slot beast