AMD FX-6300 Piledriver 6-Core processor in 2019?

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[@Baha2000]

damn when phil makes a "using x in 2019" on my current cpu, that shows how old it is

[@emilypeters8888]

Baharious I feel I have the 8 core version

[@johnmijo]

My father is till rocking the 8350 but I think his older RX 380 GPU needs to be updated.

[@emilypeters8888]

John Mijo I am updating mine soon for boarderlands 3

[@kaczan3]

If it makes you feel any better, I use the FX in my crappy backup PC... oh.

[@WINiX-ip2el]

I still use a Core 2 Quad Q8400, 8GB DDR2, and a Nvidia 9800 GT in late 2019 :|

[@BrewerBomb]

I recently found an FX 8350 for $10 at a Goodwill complete in box with the original cooler lmao.

[@UltimateAlgorithm]

FX box are really special, it uses metal instead of cardboard.

[@DeViLzzz2006]

This is madness! Wow!

[@Trick-Framed]

@@UltimateAlgorithm Huh? Mine didn't. Brand new. In a paperbox with a sub par cooler and an AMD sticker.

[@UltimateAlgorithm]

@@Trick-Framed wow really? My FX-8120 I bought in 2011 comes in metal tin packaging. The cooler is indeed crappy, you also need to change that because FX runs hot.

[@Trick-Framed]

@@UltimateAlgorithm ah. FX 8350 here. That's why.

[@WhiteZerox]

"We have a lot of IPCs running around" The irony of this is fantastic.

[@sulphurous2656]

Freudian Slip?

[@_Drekavac_]

Damn that part there got meee soooo good 😂😂😂

[@timmersoft]

I'm still rocking a fx6300 for my gaming PC. Overclocked to 4.3 GHz, 16 GB ram and a GTX 1060. Still a great pc

[@mikcnmvedmsfonoteka]

Lol i have exact same setup ! Except i recently upgraded from 16 GB RAM to 32 GB(I have 4x RAM slots) , but i had better PC - MSI Gaming Z97 - 7 with i5-4690K which i fried....... so i had to upgrade my old Phenom 955 BE System and my 6300 is OC to 4.5 Ghz on air

[@sinephase]

I was able to get mine to 5ghz stable on a corsair AIO. It's not the greatest CPU but still pretty damn solid and was a great price! :D

[@CapComa]

Isnt the 1060 really bottlenecked?

[@sinephase]

@@CapComa probably, and if not by the CPU, the buses probably give it some hiccups.

[@mikcnmvedmsfonoteka]

@@CapComa Yes it is ! I get 1/2 FPS from what I had with i5-4690k for example GTA V ran on Ultra 80-90 FPS but with FX-6300 on very high it's 40-50fps basically 50% less from what you would get when paired with decent CPU. And I don't like FX architecture 3 modules with 2 cores in each which impacts performance in Cinebench R15 my old Phenom 955 BE (OC4.0Ghz) is matching FX-6300

[@CULatte]

I have a soft spot for my old 9590, it kept me warm throughout a winter and got me talking with my father again, when he came in asking why the power bill spiked.

[@daveberry4806]

Laughed out loud and scared my cat. Had this plus 2x 6950's in crossfire. I'm the "Dad" so I blamed the spike in the power bill on the evil oil companies and the Illuminati. She stopped asking.

[@YourPalHDee]

😂😂😂

[@jakesully2868]

I ran my 9590 until this past June! It was a trooper.

[@hankmanGTA]

So I would not buy the FX 9590 just because it is no longer possible to get new 990 motherboards with TDP 220W. The 970 with TDP 140W doesn't work so I have to opt for the FX 8350 series for this variant

[@Jarmundx]

these fx chips are like the rotary engine equivalents in the cpu space: can "rev" high, overall good HP figures (multi core perf) but not a whole lot of torque (single core perf) if tweaked properly you can get good fun out of it.

[@kittyyuki1537]

They also can literally rev high (computer wise) with their high overclocking potential xD

[@mr_sowong9464]

They both are incredibly inefficient aswell

[@KooYu]

FX6300 user here, since 2015. Cost me cheap-ish with 16 gigs on a Sabertooth 990FX which is a pretty awesome mobo. I believe my chip is above average, as I'm getting a 4.3GHz 24/7 stable @ 1.28v. I can go 4.7 @ 1.4v but I don't want to push voltage that high. I use it for photo editing, video editing, website management and various other tasks including gaming on an RX480. It has never let me down so far and next year I'll be upgrading to a R5 2600 or 3600 as it's kinda slow on the video editing/encoding/rendering part. Otherwise I'm pretty happy, especially for the money I spent. Love the vid Phil!

[@laynesamba]

Nice! I run mine at 4.5 and 1.5v

[@gg5115]

Right now you could upgrade to the FX8350 without touching anything else. It was under $50 on newegg, so I replaced an 8120 with it, and it's noticeable.

[@gigglesinthenight423]

Mine run at stock 3.5ghz 😂

[@nicacioedu]

Still using an AMD FX-8350 paired with a Geforce GTX 970 and 2x8GB DDR3-1866 in 2019! Pretty decent performance for the price!!! I also spent some time in the past 12 months picking up some cheap parts for my dad's rig (AMD FX-6350, 4x4GB DDR3-1333, Gigabyte GA-970-SD3P motherboard, and an Asus Geforce GTX 760). He could never afford such parts, and everything was ready to be shipped to him soon (he was living in Brazil); however, sadly he passed away last week, at the age of 67, due a heart-attack. :-(

[@blastshieldaddiction]

Sorry for your loss. God Bless. What do you plan on doing with the parts? _asking for a friend_

[@nicacioedu]

​@@blastshieldaddiction, thank you for your gentle words. As I'm going to Brazil next month (I'm Brazilian, by the way), I'm going to carry these parts with me and build a new rig for my sister. I'm pretty sure that he'd agree... :-)

[@futurepastnow]

I ended up with a spare AM3+ mobo last year and bought one of these. My first instinct was to get a Phenom II X6, but even the cheapest one (1035T) was more expensive than the FX-6300. It's not the most impressive processor, but if you can get one for near $20 like I did, the performance per dollar is quite good.

[@johnlemus7921]

I had an FX-6300 as my home computer on an MSI Vipter Board with a GTX 780 and I never had an issue with it running games on 1080p. I was gifted a gaming laptop and sold it to a company and it's currently being used as a Data Server. Awesome Video.

[@danielberrett2179]

Woohoo Friday Non-Bonus Video!. appreciate the work you do Phil!

[@DonPedro6901]

Wow! Thanks Phil! I got it 5 yrs and still my ubunu runs fantastic on it. Also running VM is no problematic.

[@dot_mid6125]

Not ashamed to say I'm typing this comment on a 6300 w/ 16gb ram :) Hopefully will be upgrading to a new ryzen soon though

[@formsmatter]

I have 8GB of ram and using AMD FD6300WMHKBOX FX-6300 6-Core Processor Im running minion masters and ESO fine!!! thinking of putting the Rx 5 series video card into it

[@xati5135]

i love mine i bought it on a whim with no research and then found out i absolutely love it, to the point im still using it to this day. it will break my heart when i have to upgrade it.

[@arielfveiga]

Anogher nice vídeo. I found your channel by a recomendation and now waiting for vídeos every week. Thanks for your work. Greatings from Brasil

[@philscomputerlab]

Thank you! I always cheer for your country during football world cup! You have so many talent!

[@virtueofsunlight1342]

I remember getting this little fighter all the way back in 2015 and pairing it with the EVGA 960 SSC still holding on to this day. It's the little FX that could. Nice video, man.

[@m00nd95]

I still use an overclocked FX 8350 in my main rig xD. It doesn't bottleneck my GTX 1060 6gb too badly but i'm probably going to upgrade to Ryzen when I can afford it.

[@robbhays8077]

Same. Mine's not even overclocked. FX 8350 is still a solid CPU. You need a pretty high-end GPU to bottleneck it.

[@UltimateAlgorithm]

Really? My second rig, an FX-8120 is holding back RX 580. It bottleneck really bad that my GPU usage is less than 70%.

[@agdgdgwngo]

@@UltimateAlgorithm Upgrade to Phenom II lol, I mean the 1100T will be actually faster in most things

[@m00nd95]

@@UltimateAlgorithm The FX-8120 is a lower end chip running the Bulldozer arcitecture, it's fair to assume that it's going to be slower than the FX-8350 which is a higher end chip running the updated Piledriver arcitecture.

[@UltimateAlgorithm]

@@agdgdgwngo why? I would rather upgrade directly to Ryzen 3000 series. Also it is my second rig, so I don't really mind. I put it in my office to do mostly work and game a little. My main rig is using i7-8700K, which is still enough for now.

[@MachJ84]

i remember when this CPU was being heavily debated on which was better with the Pentium G3258. Its crazy to believe the FX 6300 is still usable but the G3258 is now obsolete even tho back in the day they traded blows in gaming. Although G3258 did get the better end of the upgrade path with the 4790k while the FX 6300 got an 8350.

[@dmhunter777]

Just got a GTX 1660 Super and I have an fx 6300. I'll have to wait a few months until I can upgrade it so it'll have to do for now. Great video!

[@peterharband326]

Very good video as usual Phil. Congrats on your 5th anniversary buddy.

[@TheIndianBudgetGamer]

well explained !

[@dizzee2100]

still using in 2019 and it can run any game I throw at it

[@sasatodorovic9056]

it can ofc but how with fps drops to 20fps ? l know coz l use 8320 now i'm on 8700k ......

[@dizzee2100]

@@sasatodorovic9056 it doesn't drop that low

[@sasatodorovic9056]

@@dizzee2100 Try AC origin, Far Cry new dawn, AC Odyssey, Watch dogs 2 Etc..CPU-Intensive games.l used fx 8320 OC to 4,7ghz for 6 years and it drops a lot.Now with 8700k everything flies!

[@dizzee2100]

@@sasatodorovic9056 I played all those games lol, the lowest it goes is low 30's

[@dovahkiin009087]

At any reasonable resolution except 900p @ medium settings itd be an extreme bottleneck, hell even @ 900p its still an insane bottleneck.

[@stevenwilliams6638]

This is actually great information. Local deals on these types of systems have been very appealing. Now seeing the performance I'll definitely pick a few up.

[@grahamhall2662]

Excellent thank you, I am still running my fx6300 from 2014

[@julianschluter2593]

I have a 6300 with a cheap 1050 2GB, 16 GB Ram and a SSD. Enough to handle new games in medium/high settings ^^

[@monixone]

I use this processor paired with a R9 270, it's still a pretty good budget setup!

[@SyphistPrime]

That was pretty much my gaming rig in 2015. I miss that system sometimes. It's still in use and has been handed down to a 3rd person now. The system has lasted a long time.

[@unnamed715]

@samantha tang Then why the fuck are you commenting? Nobody cares what's important to you.

[@user-wk6ex8dd5f]

unnamed715 because people that need powerful cpus arent gamers in general, obviously enough therea video editing, rendering and etc. Calm your snowflake tits

[@alexpetree2038]

@@user-wk6ex8dd5f people who need powerful cpus for non gaming use cases won't be looking at these turds either. They'd want xeons, newer Intel, or ryzen and threadripper

[@KrotowX]

@@alexpetree2038 Why turds? CPUs that was top notch 10 years ago still are just fine for budget gaming and office setups.

[@SUBZEROinfinity]

I still love my FX6300 build and use It regularly with almost all current games. Not slow in my opinion but not as fast as some newer cpu's. Good video man!!!

[@blastshieldaddiction]

I have two AMD processors in use. My triple-core with my Linux build is my daily driver. I just can't find any set up faster and more responsive that's in my budget range. I'm not a platform snob, I respect intel and Windows both, I just get weary of the issues that seem to crop up with those two (maybe just my bad luck). My 775, (thanks to Phil's tutorials on updating bios code) is humming right along and is my secondary daily + light gaming machine. When my budget increases in the near future I plan on building a a full Ryzen system with Linux and Windows running strictly in a VM. So I can work and play on the same machine. If the project fails or doesn't work as I intended I still have my back-up machines. Thank for all you do Phil! I look forward to every video!

[@ProtoMario]

I had an FX 8300 for many years but I just couldn't keep using it, too many issues after upgrading to a 95 fx series.

[@redriverscout4404]

watching this on an Fx 4100 and I am happy with it for now. Not really a gamer and I am running Linux and it is great for photography workstation and light gaming. I find the lawsuit rather silly since there is first off no standardization for what a multi core processor even is and there have been many design changes over nearly 20 years. Feels like AMD got blamed for people not doing their research and blaming them for trying different CPU designs that did not always work out as the best option in hindsight. I mean I don't recall Intel facing a lawsuit for the mess that was the pentium D.

[@JezyYT]

Great video Phil

[@Audiman0aha]

Amazing video as always! you should do FX 8350 vs Phenom II 1090T ;D

[@KamaroTheN7]

I do not advice using any FX with other series of chipsets than 9XX, because only 9XX have HT 3.1 .

[@TheJuggtron]

trying to find a 9XX with micro ATX is just about impossible though

[@IsmaelWensder]

Even my old 760g is Up to 5.2 GT/s HyperTransport™ 3.0. Is there really a noticeable difference to 3.1?

[@KamaroTheN7]

@@IsmaelWensder You know that is HT 3.1 not 4.0 .

[@GGigabiteM]

@@IsmaelWensder HT 3.1 runs at a faster 3.2 GHz (vs 2.6 GHz on HT 3.0) and has higher bus bandwidth of 51.2 GB/s in bidirectional mode (compared to 41.6 in HT 3.0.) Though it doesn't matter if the chipset supports the faster HT 3.1 spec, it's useless if the CPU doesn't support it. No AMD CPU up to the Phenom series implements a full 32 bit HT bus, just up to 16 bits, which halves the available bandwidth.

[@KamaroTheN7]

@Faux Shizle Another original comment.

[@kofteburger]

Hey, this has been my daily driver since 2014.

[@dgerdi]

Great video, great rig! Thanks

[@GameplayandTalk]

I built a FX system (8350) earlier in the year and it's turned into one of my favorite systems to use when streaming PC games that are more than a few years old. It handles them well, even up to stuff like DOOM 2016 that you mentioned. It makes for a great indie game or emulation box as well (really surprised at how well this thing handles Dreamcast!), and it's also a strong box for stuff like classic FPS source ports and mods (Doom, Quake, Blood, etc). For people that like to have various generations of hardware built and ready to go for one reason or another, it can be worth having one of these around.

[@MJ-uk6lu]

Not even in my worst nightmare I could have imagined that my current CPU will actually be in Phil's video. Pro tip: don't use Windows 7 or older OS with it, unoptimized scheduler can tank your performance. Windows 7 only had partial and incomplete fix. You can see what I mean in CPU-Z benchmark.

[@TSteffi]

There actually is a fix for this, i used Win7 on my FX-8350 for over a year, and on my FX-4300 before that. If only i could remember the name of the tool. It lets you set some of the parameters manually that windows does not show, so you can fix the issues.

[@MJ-uk6lu]

@@TSteffi I have Athlon X4 870K in another PC and Win7, in CPU-Z benchmark it really suffers. I have another PC witn Win10 and Athlon X4 845 and it beats 870K. There may be some tools to sort of fix this problem, but it will never be a truly good fix. No software can really edit Windows files (nor it should do that as it's really insecure), at best there may be some hack, where software will put some load on CPU to make it unpark itself and be ready for work.

[@swahiliranger1022]

Is it just a problem with the older piledriver cpu's?

[@aniMEanie01]

@@TSteffi Alright i'm completely unaware about this. Does this affect performance in games? or just the benches? I am willing to try that out because I still use windows 7 for no-telemetry and other reasons. Let me know if you remember the name of the tool, or lemme know what exactly to search for. Anything at all would be highly appreciated.

[@ihavenoaffinity]

as far as gaming performance goes, does this make a practical difference? I saw some benchmarks on Level1Techs forums from 2017 showing that Win10 offers no real performance benefit in games unless you are using an older GPU, and years before that Win10 used to be very unoptimized for gaming compared to Win7 in the first place.

[@melodyze6247]

you have to pair the FX chips with the perfect video card, if you throw it with a really high end or high end card or super new card, the cpu will have bad frame times. and, the FX chips Need to also have overclock or they preform crappy.

[@jethrotull448]

I'm still sportin' a 6300 oc'd to 4Ghz, 16 gigs of ddr3 1866 and a 580. Absolutely fine for 1080p gaming. Will be upgrading this holiday season.

[@pierdeer]

Thanks for the video Phil! I was about to upgrade my poor old AM3 motherboard with a newer CPU, since I don't have a lot of money avaliable, and.. well.. can't really do much with an Athlon, so going for an FX CPU seems to be the best choice, besides replacing my entire computer. :)

[@tobyhines7587]

HTPC running FX-8350, 32 gigs ram and RX-460 boot ssd many TB HHD. Win 10 pro

[@eyb0ss]

I moved from an FX 6300 to an i5 6600k back in 2015, its crazy how much more performance I got out of my GTX 970 back then.

[@josh_fisher]

I've been running that exact Mobo with an fx8350 oc, 16gb ram and gtx 1050ti. Works great for everything I do, from gaming to heavy development and rendering. Excellent build and I've been running it for the past 4-5 years.

[@jnbennett6496]

glad to see you using the pad instead of thermal paste

[@batzublu9181]

I mean... Some guys got an fx 8350 to 8.4ghz with liquid nitrogen. That might compete... hahaha

[@EduardoSantos-hu1bb]

Como isso???? 8.4Ghz?? Ou 4.8ghz????

[@EduardoSantos-hu1bb]

Tem um canal chamado Fx Games Pro ele usa um fx 8300 com uma Rtx 2060

[@batzublu9181]

@@EduardoSantos-hu1bb Yea 8.4 or higher. But its completely unsustainable and liquid nitrogen cooling. Its the world record.

[@EduardoSantos-hu1bb]

@@batzublu9181 parabéns 👏 👏 👏 👏

[@Sk0die]

I knew the record was broken with an FX chip but i thought they got it just past 6Ghz not 8.4Ghz!

[@joannaatkins822]

I agree completely with your assessment once more! The AM3+ platform and FX chips aren't dead, but they're not yet good enough value to be considered a good idea. Compatibility is genuinely great, and while they aren't blazing good performance, they are still capable in six or eight thread variations. I wouldn't reccomend buying FX or AM3+ if you have other options, but they can still get up and work hard when the need arises for both gaming and productivity alike.

[@zeng58]

I still have mines but I’m thinking getting an upgrade very soon

[@KrotowX]

But you can give used PCs with these CPUs away as gift to people who doesn't have a computer. Would be quite a good gift I guess. Two my former PCs found new owners in this way and one is still in business.

[@DeViLzzz2006]

My son's 2nd cpu / 2nd build I did for him. Now I have been waiting to hear a good price on a motherboard and I see some good deals there even when converted to Canadian. A nice backup motherboard for my son's pc or if I find the right priced cpu anywhere it would be good for just a project for me in 2019. I really though need some socket 775 motherboards cheap as I have 2 cpus sitting around doing nothing that I want in builds. Now back to the AMD boards on Aliexpress I think I'd look at a Gigabyte board since I had so much luck with these for so many builds and heck there are some really affordable ones. Likely will try to get the same model my son has as I know it works well. LOL!

[@taylorwhiting1211]

I had the spare parts laying around and built my daughter her first pc using a 6300. I threw the stock cooler on it that came with my 8350 ( got the chip new for $60!!! and put a coolermaster 212 on it ) I threw a rx 480 into it. She loves it :)

[@jangelelcangry]

this could be nice for an XP retro PC if you can get them cheaper than Sandy/Ivy Bridge Parts. Good video.

[@jangelelcangry]

@Dalle Smalhals You mean C2D better than Sandy Bridge for Xp?

[@laharl2k]

I agree, core 2 quad is the best for XP. Throw a Q9400 with 4GB of ram and thats a really good XP machine. Also you dont have drivers for more modern machines for XP so theres that too. Maybe snappy driver installer can find something but i doubt it.

[@jangelelcangry]

@@laharl2k My asrock board has all Xp drivers on Asrock's website. I've used it and never had driver problems. you can either slipstream both SATA II and III AHCI drivers with nLite or install the drivers after install and swap sata ports.

[@laharl2k]

jangelelcangry Well if it has drivers support then theres no problem. Still you wont see any difference in performance with anything that runs on XP. From that point of view it becomes kind of a waste, same as if you had windows 95 support too. I doubt space cadet running at 9001 fps would feel any different xD Its been a while since ive seen games that could run on anythin before win7, even retro ones which could run fine on a core 2 duo. I actually had to dig archives last time i built an xp machine to find software that would even install. Now that i think about it a core 2 quad is overkill. You can do win7 no problem on one of those. Core 2 duo @ 3.5GHz should run better on XP wich wasnt optimized for multi core cpus nor had any software that used more than 2.

[@jangelelcangry]

@Dalle Smalhals NFSU-NFSC games and PJ64.

[@olafkliemt1145]

my FX-6350 runs like a charm...

[@ColpoRosso]

Love this little CPU. Used it for more than five years, the only drawback of building an FX 6300 machine nowadays is that there's not much you can do with the motherboard if you want to upgrade to something more modern.

[@dansalmon2698]

still rocking the 6200. its unreal the value i got for it 8 years later, paired with my old 760 im speechless sometimes how well it does today still. also works great on digital audio workstations

[@D3PeXoR]

Oh damn this is my old CPU which I used between 2013-2018. It's was so slow at last 2 years mostly because of this frametime spikes, and drop to 30-45PFS in more demanding games.

[@elusive6119]

Complex overclocking of cores with fixation on 4.2 (when the power saving mode is disabled), RAM overclocking to 2133, NB overclocking to 2600 can give more than 30-40% min FPS. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpW1hqOXhct1ps0 40: 24 sorry there is no translation into English, but the numbers are clear.

[@D3PeXoR]

@@elusive6119 That was I said is my experience with overclocked to 4.3GHz....

[@MarcABrown-tt1fp]

@@D3PeXoR You never mentioned overclocks lol. He means northbridge overclocking.

[@NightMotorcyclist]

I to have bought my FX-6300 used for $30 back in early 2015 because it had a few bent pins and was just sitting in the buyer's cabinet. This was quite the upgrade for my AM3+ system that was utilizing an AMD Athlon II X4 620 CPU and I have used the 6300 up until March of this year when I finally decided to do a complete rebuild centered around a Ryzen 5 2400G processor as I didn't want to reuse the Radeon HD 6970 that was in the older build.

[@lk7496]

I have a fx6300/r7370 combo, ran that for several years before up grading to a Ryzen 5/Rx570. Still a good pc.

[@lumi2387]

If you overclock the RAM to 1866 MHz (recommended for FX processors) and then the CPU NB frequency to 2600, you will get a smoother frametime and a higher FPS in some games.

[@MJ-uk6lu]

it doesn't really make any noticeable difference.

[@Leelz2]

it does, +20% free perf, It is like buying Ferrari but driving it with 50 km max..

[@MJ-uk6lu]

@@Leelz2 5% would be great with RAM upgrade only. Sadly, FX CPUs don't give a shit about RAM speed. There are no real differences between RAM at 1600 and at 800. CPU NB speed has no effect on performance at all, unless it's set way too low.

[@elusive6119]

​@@MJ-uk6lu Not really, increasing the frequency of RAM and CPU NB significantly improves the frame time, the memory subsystem works much faster (this is a weak point of the FX architecture), but you won’t get more FPS, but avoid stators and FPS drops. An increase in the frequency of nuclei also will not give a significant increase since the processing power of one FX core is less than that of Phenom 2. In FX, the core frequency is already large enough and 4.2 is more than enough to avoid overheating.

[@MJ-uk6lu]

@@elusive6119 Only first generation FX processor were slower than Phenoms. FX 6300 is third gen FX and is faster than equivalent Phenom. Your PC shouldn't stutter under normal conditions. Fix your software, instead of overclocking hardware. Seriously what you are talking about, FXs are overclocking beasts. You can have massive increase in performance from overclocking it.

[@ChrisSmith-vw9mx]

Still running a FX-8350 and it still does everything I need it to!

[@TSteffi]

Me 2 :-D

[@Sappy6517]

Me 3

[@TSteffi]

@AleksSDF Indeed. Other CPU's might be faster, but if you have a good board with M.2 SSD and enough RAM, a FX-8350 still makes a nice system for work or play. I have mine cooled with a 240mm AIO, so it also runs very quiet. That is the only downside, the FX boxed coolers sound like jet engines when they ramp up. And you need to have beefy VRMs on the board. A cheap AM3 board will barely handle the FX-6300, let alone the 8350. I would reccomend getting a board that is rated to support the FX-9590 with 220W. Even if you only get the 8350, you will have more headroom.

[@laharl2k]

AleksSDF i have a core 2 quad, also does everything you thow at it. Even my retro pentium mmx 200mhz does everything and all, 15KB/s on the 7zip benchmark 😌

[@TSteffi]

@@laharl2k But iirc the core2quad CPUs didn't have AVX, and many modern games or applications need AVX to work.

[@ryankraidich4533]

Still have one of those at the house, it was never the fastest thing but definitely fast enough for most things.

[@megacide84]

I purchased the FX-6300 and paired it with a GTX 770 back in 2014 when I built my first gaming PC. Just in time for the Steam summer sale. Last year. I built a second budget gaming PC for my living room. I was going to order a second FX-6300 but bought the FX-8320 instead. As Newegg had it on a weekly sale for about the same price. I swapped out the 6300 for the 8320 on my primary PC. I put that 6300 in that second budget build. Considering that my flat screen is a budget 720p 39" Insignia TV. It's perfect for mid range gaming.

[@KamaroTheN7]

I saw that Bulldozer mistake, but you changed it quick.

[@kiyanharchegani2588]

my roommate was gaming on a fx 4300 and i felt so bad for him - im lending him my xeon 1650 v2 and before i was lending him my ryz 7 1700x build

[@philscomputerlab]

Yea with just 2 modules and 4 threads, that CPU struggles. We reviewed it a while ago, and it's slower than the previous Phenom II X4 CPUs.

[@SniperLFC]

I'm still using a FX4300 o/c'd to 4.6ghz. It can struggle but works more than good enough for me. :)

[@kiyanharchegani2588]

@@wowitsshit9734 man his fx4300 was paired with an MSI gt 610 1gb haha this was a full potato mode PC. The xeon at least had 6 cores and a 980 ti and that 1700x was paired with a vega 64 in a full custom loop

[@kiyanharchegani2588]

@@wowitsshit9734 exactly. couldnt have him playing gta v with me @ 640p 19 fps lol

[@BinaryStar010]

Had this since 2015 and finally upgraded to Ryzen 3600. The performance gain was tremendous, but i'm still happy with the results I had with the 6300. Definitely keeping it for smaller future builds.

[@irukhan07]

Great video!

[@MrSamadolfo]

😀 yay Pile It On 👊😎

[@scotthoffmaster4600]

I like the FX. I know its old and isnt true 8 cores etc.. But i picked up a FX 8320E Asus usb 3+ 4 DIMM motherboard and 8 GBs of ram for 50 bucks! So i added (all bought used) a $100 rx 580 8 GB, $20 evga 500 psu, $23 crucial 240 Gb ssd, i already had 1TB HD, another $30 8 GB of memory and a 50 dollar case and im all in for less then 250 Bucks! And this thing will do most everything i want it to! im not an AAA list gamer. I like racing games older games and i do alot of cad and 3D modeling. I also built A ryzen 2600 ,rog strix b450 machine all used except the case, memory and ssd for a little over 350

[@e.corphan5635]

I dont know why you felt the need to buy an fx if you bought a 2nd machine with a ryzen 2600 with far more power and just 100$ more. You could even go for a 3600 for tha tmoney, since its so cheap nowadays.

[@elstondias9172]

Hey Scott will a GTX 750ti be fine for AutoCAD and sketchup or do I have to get something better please let me know I'm on a tight budget thanks..

[@scotthoffmaster4600]

@@e.corphan5635 I actually built the FX pc first. It sort of fell into my lap (as did a bunch of other parts i didnt really need but where too good a deals to pass up) while searching out parts for the ryzen build. I Have three sort of high end users in my household so i needed an extra pc at least... I also have a 2200G tomahawk b450 16gb ram that i have less then 200 in using the onboard graphics of course. Also an intel i3 6100 build that i still need ram for but will have about 250 in with gtx 580 8gb.

[@scotthoffmaster4600]

@@elstondias9172 I mean your more cpu dependent usually but the GPU does play a role. a 750 Ti will do the job if you CPU isnt a potato as well. but honestly look for a radeon gtx 480 or 580. you can find one for around 100 bucks or even less for a 4 gb card.

[@elstondias9172]

@@scotthoffmaster4600 will an i5 2400 along with a GTX 750ti 120gb SSD 1 TB HDD & 4gb X2 DDR3 memory do the trick for an AutoCAD/Sketchup system?

[@SyphistPrime]

This makes me miss my FX-6300 PC. It was my first custom built rig and I have fond memories of playing GTA IV well into the night on it. It heated my room in my parent's basement at the time (I was still in highschool then) and it was actually nice in the winter. It's still in use thankfully, it's been handed down to its 3rd owner now and it's still being used for gaming which is honestly cool. Maybe I'm being a bit nostalgic about the short comings of the system, but I had so much fun on it and sometimes playing on a budget system is more fun than an overkill system.

[@marciomcm2736]

Great video! Even being an old processor, If you are like me, a player who only cares about the campaign and 1080p60 FPS, this setup would still offer enough juice.

[@jacobdzurica6707]

It's bad trust me. Bottlenecked the hell out of my rx 570. I had not realised it until I got a r5 2600

[@sulphurous2656]

4:50 I don't think an HD 7970 GHz would have even bottlenecked the CPU...

[@opinadorrj4337]

No! 6300 can hold 7970 very well

[@StompySan]

This cpu is still living in my NAS, and it does pretty well. Handles streaming media fine, including transcoding in Emby. Only reason I have thought about replacing was power consumption.

[@VladanUmicevic]

Got it ,still running fine.

[@AchiragChiragg]

The 750 ti video on Randomgaming in HD yesterday. Now this, my PC is covered.

[@Defy_Convention]

For $110 you could get a used 8350 and rx470 and have a decent rig

[@AchiragChiragg]

@@Defy_Convention I know, I already have a laptop with a GTX 1060 6GB. But I had 750ti and FX 6300 in my PC that I built in 2015

[@laharl2k]

I rather stay with my Phenom II x6 1055T @ 3.5Ghz. Better ipc and all.

[@napowolf]

Lack of modern instruction sets are an issue, though.

[@Felix-ve9hs]

What Motherboard do you have?

[@dizzee2100]

no SSE 4.1, you're locked out of many games

[@TheHavocInferno]

no SSE4.1, no AVX and an FX6300 will reach significantly higher cpu clocks and better ram clocks. not worth it to go from a PX6 to an FX, but it's not like the Phenom is better overall.

[@laharl2k]

Felix R Asus M4A785TD-V EVO. Its actually AM2+ dispite what asus says on its page.

[@ParadoxdesignsOrg]

I'm still rocking a 6300 with a RTX 580, 16GB DDR3, nVME . I do video editing, all kinds of gaming. Working great for my needs, just holding out until it's so slow I have to upgrade. :)

[@monham5041]

Interesting Vlog. Your comment at the end was intriguing. I have an FX 8200 8 core Black edition system, but you'd choose the FX 6300 over that? You think less cores better? Interesting. Mon from Brisbane.

[@harpskid]

Active Windows Go to Settings to activate Windows.

[@utp216]

I’ve never seen “AMD only RAM” in all my years. I’ve got a lot of FX gear and run of the mill DDR3. Cool find!

[@bdhale34]

If memory serves all DDR modules that are high density are only supported by AMD platforms and that applies to DDR2 as well.

[@quandalemuncher2337]

Recently upgraded from an 8320 to a 3600x ( was cheaper than 3600 on black Friday sale) and im definitely happy now I can stream and fully use my fury for nice 1080p 144hz action and be able to stream while doing so it's nice to see the torch being passed from the 2600k to the 3600x or the fx 6300 to amds quad cores there really is still the same relative performance per dollar as we saw back in the Sandy bridge days. I hope intel soon gets back some mojo and pushes amd as well.

[@NeoVoodooTech]

I built an fx 6300 system out of spare parts for a friend and he loves it. Plays MTG arena with ease and alot of other slightly older games like sc2 and dota.

[@EduardoSantos-hu1bb]

Passa no canal ( Fx Games Pro) combo fx 8300 + rtx 2060

[@renanwillian4006]

Good video, but Fx no more. Xeon > FX

[@silvy7394]

The only people who think its a triple core are the ones who know nothing about CPU's.

[@MLGKid420]

I've also serviced a laptop with an AMD A4-4300M and realized that it's a single core with two threads

[@Pilotgeek]

@anthone570 I think it was possibly a bit deceptive, but each core is independently capable of executing instructions simultaneously, so I personally consider them true cores. Yes, the FPU is shared, so hardware FPU operations will stall but many older CPUs did not even have an FPU, and those are still considered a CPU. Some workloads highly stress multi-core FPU, and these people suffered, but I imagine many games and most regular programs of the time probably did not.

[@GhettoPCbuilds]

3 CORES 3 THREADS ONLY EXPLANATION FOR PRICE AT THE TIME. DUAL CORE i3's with 4 THREADS WERE USUALLY FASTER BACK IN THE DAY LOL

[@karathkasun]

@@Pilotgeek The cores in a module share much more than the FPU... They also share instruction load resources (a single cache connection per module) and instruction retire resources (a single connection to the memory controller per module). The performance hit for loading up both cores is similar to SMT in many ways. There is a reason AMD lost the lawsuit brought against them for marketing them as 4/6/8 core CPUs.

[@e.corphan5635]

Well, it has actually just 3 physic cores and 3 virtual cores. So its basically a 3 core processor with ht. WIth high power consumption, bad cooling, and bad power in general if you compare them to othe rprocessors at that time or even to today. They literally come off as a joke to me.

[@FakeRights]

Running a FX-8370 with a 1080ti. Smooth no issues or need to upgrade since it's build in 2014. Solid 60fps+

[@hankmanGTA]

works AMD FX 6300 quite well I'm happy with it I didn't expect too many miracles from him but in some ways he helped me increase FPS by up to 15 shots and more up the mountain which I'm happy now I'm waiting for FX 8350 when he arrives home then I'll try it in the future too

[@rhyzon]

*Activate Windows* Where are all the "OMG Phil is a pirate!" comments?

[@laharl2k]

André Pedreiro No need to activate it, Phil just needs to start talking in pirate.

[@TheCgOrion]

Can you use the 40x40mm if it is slightly too large, and not worry about the overhang? I would imagine it's the size to use on Ryzen. Is that correct? The FX6300 OC'd is doing well in the PC I gave my Dad for gaming. Running with a GTX 980 for 1080p 60hz, it's doing well. I built two of them years ago for my parents, because we all wanted to play co-op games, and they needed PC's. They have served us well. Borderlands, CoD, and L4D series all easily run locked on their monitors refresh rate. I have a soft spot as well for them.

[@meganjay30]

Thanks for your video. I was running that CPU and was absolutely fine and fast enough to do anything I wanted and more, I had 16gb ram and OC genie only took it to 3.7ghz so I just used at 3.5 stock. But my 970a-g43 is dead now and the CPU may be too. Trying to find a good AMD motherboard to buy and a small upgrade from the old one as my ram and power supply are still good. And I found a cheap deal on a graphics card to use also..

[@nickkaraoke2128]

Used to my main CPU from 2014-2017. Had a great run. Now I'm trying to piece used parts together to make a good gaming computer for someone else.

[@mikclarke64]

I agree I have 3 systems with the FX-6300.

[@mbe102]

Phil, some tips. Make sure to disable Fullscreen Optimization on your game's exe. And also to disable Control Flow Guard.

[@mattyfrommacc1554]

still got my 6100 overclocked +1 GHz to 4.3 GHz, runs everything fine so far, coming up to a decade in age now

[@ningyuanwang600]

As one who also play with retro hardware. I think video decoding test is also a fun thing to do. Now the vp9 and hevc video on KZbin demands a lot of cpu power. Without a fairly recent video card (nvidia 10 series), sometimes these cpu struggles even at 720p.

[@Trick-Framed]

Great vid. I had an FX 8350. Gave it to my step son. He loves it. Have you considered binding a copy of windows 10 to your username instead of the board so you always have an activated copy for videos? Or you can use regedit to remove that Activate splash.

[@philscomputerlab]

Yea I have, but it's just another step / hassle that I rather avoid :D Usually I'm quick enough with the games that the watermark doesn't show up yet, but lately I've been quite busy.

[@Trick-Framed]

@@philscomputerlab Well, if you bind it to your MS Username it's a one time hassle. Then forever more it just works. With Windows 10 being as inexpensive as it is compared to launch it seems silly not to. However I do understand that you are very busy person. Sure you'll get around to it sooner or later.

[@SUPERMONJ]

Great videos. Wish you made more . We viewers will love to give support . Patreon details ?

[@philscomputerlab]

Nah it's all good, I'm happy with 1 video a week, it suits my lifestyle very well.

[@michaelfrench8517]

Hey Phil! I loved the video. I’m running an FX 8350 and was curious how this chip ran. But there’s something else I want to ask... I’ve loved computers for years, eventually taking them apart myself and figuring out their parts, and how they work. But there’s still so much more I want to learn! It just seems like so much though. Is there anything you can recommend to start taking steps to get where you are with your knowledge of hardware and the ins and outs? I really appreciate any feedback sir. Cheers!

[@philscomputerlab]

Well how do you nest learn? Some people do it from books, some from watching videos, like I do, others learn when working with other people. I think watching KZbin videos, especially build guides, can be very helpful.

[@lovelesstv]

i have an FX6350, 16gb of ram, GTX970, and an ssd. still doing heavy music production work and playing PUBG every day :))

[@marcins6071]

can't wait 100k subs.

[@barbozaa.joaquims.2507]

That's a very interesting video about Bulldozer CPUs Phil! Good job as always! By the way, can you do me favor? Can you recomend a Good (maybe cheap ehehe) Sound Card for Windows 10? To be honest, I'm not satisfied with the sound of my Motherboard. I bought a HyperX Cloud Stinger with P2 connection and I think I can't use his quality of the sound. Maybe...

[@SavageArms357]

Personally, I find that external DAC's give better sound quality than internal soundcards (less EMF interference), and tend to be quite a bit cheaper too. The Behringer UCA202 is a great choice according to this review, and very affordable: nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/02/behringer-uca202-review.html Alternatively, if you're interested in soldering, the Signstek HiFi USB DAC from Amazon can be modified with higher quality capacitors, resulting in fantastic audio for very little money. Here's a review detailing that procedure: www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R35R4CCF7WPMGP/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00FEDHHKE Hope that helps! :D

[@swahiliranger1022]

X-fi titanium or one of those Asus xonar cards

[@MJ-uk6lu]

Topping D10

[@andycdgreen]

Hi Phil, please could you provide a UK link to where I could buy the same open air test frame that you use?

[@ChaotiX1]

hey man, have you thought of reviewing the socket G34 AMD Opterons? You can find used mainboards and CPU's for DIRT cheap today. I saw dual socket G34 boards for $45 usd, and 16 core Opterons for as little as $15 USD EACH. You should check them out since youve already reveiwed used Xeons to death

[@nticompass]

I use an FX-6100 and a GTX 1050 as my "capture PC" to record videos with. It's a great machine!