AMD Laptops in 2025 - Domination w/ X3D & More!

[@Renbits]

yes please start more handheld coverage, especially with steamos / bazzite. super excited at more steamos devices coming, and maybe even on arm devices too

[@Invid72]

I don't even have a laptop anymore. For the few times I need one I use my Legion Go with a folding bluetooth keyboard and trackpad. Battery life sucks but it's as powerful as any thin and light laptop when I'm not gaming on it. The 1600p display even makes sense when I use it that way too.

[@med7at10]

Yes I think they should too Especially because they'll get even better

[@hey01e5]

pc handhelds are totally worth covering. i used to be skeptical of windows handhelds myself, but then i picked up a legion go and now i game with it all the time.

[@antonlindborg8335]

I agree with this. I am turning 30 this year and there is something very seamless with just picking up my rog ally and playing for an hour on the couch inbetween plans and ''musts''

[@andy7bianca]

They can dominate all they want on the laptop side, but if the availability keeps on being inexistant, like its been for years now, it won't matter

[@dan7872]

True, I don't understand why reviewers create hype for something that never gets translated to the real world.

[@jevc900423]

Then they aint dominating shit, lets stop calling something that doesn't even exist, which is a shame, would love an AMD laptop, but only thing in the market at reasonable prices is either 5000 series refurbished amd or Intel at any flavor. In other words, AMD is not dominating jackshit if it's a fucking unicorn.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Yeah that's what I said at the end. They need supply, not just fancy tech demos

[@iftea7]

Huh, so no actual product on shelf isn't Australia only.. damn, why even announce these AMD?

[@IvoPavlik]

11:00 for those who need to comment before viewing the whole video ..

[@RobBCactive]

On paper Hawk Point looked to have the same specs as Phoenix, but it actually does 15% better in tests and is very efficient as a U class CPU. These have been available as an 8c under €600 which is a very comfy option for a lightweight quiet laptop to travel with. It's not fair to call Hawk Point a rebrand, the design fixed issues in Phoenix.

[@TitanPlakInside]

The Ryzen AI Max is a new category of x86 APU offering. I think we will see more APUs of this kind from both AMD and Intel (if they decide to launch this kind of APU) in the future.

[@Luke-qs2cg]

Those ai max chips should be in mini pc's from beelink and others by the end of the year. Those peoducts are going to be SO COOL! Imagine a desktop the size of a mac mini with these chips running off a 100w usb-c brick. Ultimate travel workstation! Ive already got a 120hz 3k oled portable, and plenty of small mouse/keyboard options. Im ready to trade in the old 7940hs!

[@CitAllHearItAll]

You’d rather travel with a mini pc and keyboard/mouse than a laptop with the same chip?

[@Luke-qs2cg]

@CitAllHearItAll depends on the power budget of the laptop. At 45w, I'm not interested. Power limiting apu's causes massive frame time variability which ruins gameplay and makes rending a chore. Plus, I mainly need sustained performance for rendering and cad work. Laptops work fine, but I'm always at my desktop. If I can have a little mac-mini sized PC I can put in a backpack and run off the 12v in my car and anywhere else I go off USB, it becomes just as useful as the laptop to me. Mac mini+ small OLED+ USB brick is super portable, even compared to the laptop

[@utubekullanicisi]

There was a dude that modified a Mac mini to run off of power over ethernet, I wish the same guy or someone else could do a similar modification to make a USB-C powered Mac mini lol.

[@XBnPC]

I'd love to see your coverage on all of AMD's APUs

[@deltax7159]

held out on getting an M4 Pro MacBook Pro and having to learn to use macOS so very happy to see all of the laptops that I will get to choose from this year!

[@cyrus4062]

Z2 non extreme should’ve at least got 880m.

[@rakeshmalik5385]

I'm very much looking forward to your experience with the Z13! I also hope that Asus has improved the XG mobile since launching it. I'm also honestly hoping that Asus will update the ProArt P16 with Strix Halo.

[@khalilbenaissa9077]

Very strong product line but missing more stuff maybe they are limited by manufacturing capacity and not marketing strix halo for gaming is a mistake. Imagine a strix halo mini pc ... 🤔

[@toungeenaamoo]

9800hx3d will remain in our dreams, such a Miss opportunity

[@nairbos]

AMD's press release was AWFUL. All AI slop that no one cares about.

[@ApolloX-e4q]

Shareholders do and that's what the current market is about.. not siding with that but they just gotta be generic like the rest of them

[@notchipotle]

I wanna talk shit about AI but I got a lot of money from investing in AI bullshit last year lol

[@HardwareCanucks]

There's a whole video here of things people should care about

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😶

[@mechanicalmonk2020]

Hmm yes... "No one"

[@n0t_rogue]

hope amd works on availbility this time

[@IvoPavlik]

Why there's always so few AMD units available in the market?

[@simonegaio2122]

​@@IvoPavlikSince data centers, where they have much higher profit margins, are saturating their production capacity.

[@whatabast]

7:15 it would be really cool if you guys reviewed the windows gaming handheld.

[@youp1tralala]

All of this would be good if AMD laptops were broadly available at launch time, which never happens. Say what you want about Intel laptops but actually being able to buy them is not a problem...

[@HardwareCanucks]

Yeah that's what I inferred at the end

[@KillaGorilla-l7z]

Strix point launched and there are laptops to buy. „Never happens“ is a weird call.

[@nfb4027]

Where TF is Phantek's Evolv case that they showed at CES last year?

[@damienlobb85]

The thing I don't understand, is why I can't get an ASUS laptop with the best in class gaming CPU (X3D) paired with a high end GPU. Why is ASUS once again only offering 5080/5090 with the Intel models??? Wtf?

[@HardwareCanucks]

MSI is offering 5090's with AMD.

[@ranjitmandal1612]

Can't wait also cover the handheld market too 🙏

[@bigdumo]

totally worth covering. please do!

[@VicharB]

Got my wifey Z S 14 258V notebook for USD1,500, she is happy as is into photo editing and that OLED is perfect, plus light to carry. Myself, I am waiting for HX 370/375 from Elitebook or ThinkPads 13/14" in order to consider upgrading my Elitebook 7840U/32GB; for me keyboard matters a lot but am hoping for much better battery life.

[@doryiii]

SteamDeckOS on a Z2 Extreme handheld would be my dream. Windows handhelds like the Legion Go was such a disappointment, and I had to return it and went back to my supposedly weaker/cheaper OG Steam Deck and it was just a smoother, seamless gaming experience, especially on game suspend/restore which is a must on any handheld gaming device. I can only imagine what kind of performance we'd get with a much beefier SoC than the very outdated chip in the Deck.

[@KimonoKenny]

So ryzen 8000 series which was a 7000 ai rebrand is now 250? I'm lost... So confusing lol

[@seanedits10]

Will Strix Halo compete with MacBook in terms of Battery/Performance Ratio? (for Video editing)

[@HardwareCanucks]

Likely but not in Performance per Watt or battery life.

[@seanedits10]

@@HardwareCanucks Thanks! I guess I'll just wait for M5 Macbooks next year :D

[@IvoPavlik]

Agreed with the ending. What's great tech good for when you cannot buy it anywhere?

[@DarkMikaruX]

I'm waiting for an updated Minisforum Windows Tablet with these. Has anyone heard anything?

[@bobo-cc1xw]

I have a tablet because I can pair it with a corne keyboard and have a better typing experience in a light weight package. Powerful hand heads are awesome

[@saberknight2474]

The AI Max 385 seems to be the most interesting processor outlined, at least to me. Double the CUs of the 890m, but with 8 cores instead of the ludicrous 16 core monsters above it. Stick one of those in a laptop, and you might have a real portable powerhouse on your hands.

[@johnygamache194]

Yeah handhheld rock!!!😊

[@christianmbabazi9722]

All I'm interested in is that 3DVcach pair that with a nice AMD GPU or modest Nvidia card and you got yourself a beefy laptop also give the laptop the ability to upgrade the RAM and you have a winner. Plus I'm also irritated that they didn't mention any new GPU or if they mentioned if they're going to provide more laptop options for the RX 78/7900m

[@RealDaveTheFreak]

All I want is a 14" OLED thin and light notebook with Strix Halo and 64GB+ of RAM. 🤤

[@mr.yonosenada]

I hope that if you are going to cover windows handhelds you drop the bias against these devices. I'm actually watching this with my Legion Go, after playing BG3 so...

[@stephenkbolton]

The reality is that we are seeing the limits of tsmc. They cant supply apple, nvidia, intel and amd enough of these low nm chips. So amd is forced to use the higher nm chips in their line.

[@stephenkbolton]

Feels like apple is paying a premium to get first dibs and then it gets very competitive between the other companies

[@GROGU123]

I wish they would put the AI 395 MAX APU in a full size 16" laptop with decent cooling. Would be my ideal laptop. There's no need for a thin and light 14" laptop to do real work on.

[@yeshyk3694]

You get diminishing returns with power and 14" laptops can cool >120W anyways, see Zephyrus G14 '23

[@GROGU123]

@@yeshyk3694 I literally have a white 2023 zerphyrus G14, it runs too hot and cpu throttles clock speed when it hits over 98c. So I know first hand what you're saying is not true. I want something that'll run cool, so more cooling is better. There's no such thing as excess cooling, it'll simply run at a lower and quieter fan speed. I'd rather have extra cooling, than run it at the limit of it's cooling capbility, which most of these thin and light laptops will do when you run them at 100% load. A regular lenovo legion non-slim 16" laptop fits in my backpack just fine, I don't need to it to be any thinner and lighter.

[@samal90]

hoping we get a ASUS TUF A14 with Ryzen AI Max 395 at 120W full power.

[@auritro3903]

AMD laptops are great. They already have the fastest gaming processor on laptops. Yet, if availability has anything to do with it, 9955HX3D laptops are also gonna be extremely scarce, meaning Intel is gonna vastly outsell them with their 285HX lineup, even if it's not the fastest gaming CPU, similar situation to the 14900HX vs 7945HX3D right now.

[@pedro.alcatra]

AMD could do even better. They are just competing with themselves. It is stunning how fast they are pumping out new technologies, they could just hold everything

[@Violet-ui]

Their claim of the Ryzen AI MAX being 2x as fast as the 4090 for LLM was so misleading. The model they used did not fit into the VRAM of the 4090, which is most certainly why it was slower than the Ryzen AI MAX

[@HardwareCanucks]

Yeah that's why we went very light on posting performance claims in this video. Judging from the audience reaction (gasps & applause), most of which are journalists, it shows just how little knowledge there is about AI Workloads.

[@yeshyk3694]

good, nvidia doesnt give vram anyways

[@middle_pickup]

The gaming handheld space isn't going to be about Windows for long. Hardware manufacturers can see the writing on the wall. Personally I think Steam OS handhelds will be the next big thing in gaming. It has the potential to bring in all those Nintendo switch normies.

[@bodacious12]

the guy in charge of their naming convention needs to be fired YESTERDAY

[@Karti200]

My opinion about whole laptpp HX3D cpu from AMD…. The idea is nice But in the practice it will be almost not even visible by people It will be unobtanium paired o ly with top end gpus in the most fat laptops this series will have… I would love to see X3D mobile APU with like 8 CU of RDNA3/4 Cuz desktop x3d proven that it can actually boost even 2CU of iGPU to a nice level. So imagine 8CU RDNA4 boosted with X3D…. It would be amazing

[@StaySic4Ever]

8-core X3D with 50 CU RDNA4 chip would be way better and more rounded chip. Odd such APU doesn't have X3D cache though.

[@DSS553]

Why are we showing laptop CPU benchmark results without naming the CPU's used in the laptop? I mean sure, we could all go look them up ourselves, sure, but isn't it a very basic service to just write them next to the benchmark results?

[@305gangsta777]

Yay for handhelds

[@miscwork-qb7pd]

Why is everyone copying Apple with the Max and Pro language? As soon as I see that it turns me off of a product

[@EthelbertCoyote]

My big question is will AMD bring back crossfire in a way? Nvidia had Maxiumus a few years ago for pros but AMD could do a similar thing here, with the on CPU GPU acting to handle the display portion (and maybe a few other processes) of the GPU pipeline and then all of VRAM and all of the power of a discrete GPU. With the dicrete GPU focusing on the Ai and 3D. This would give AMD's laptops with AMD APU + AMD GPU full destop level power.

[@DoodleDan]

340 and 350 mini pc hmmm?

[@ralphz3849]

Yeah, but chances are, you can still cook an egg on those laptops.

[@AM93000]

No Lisa Su in CES. That was terrible

[@pain1427]

I already have ryzen 7800x3d, should i upgrade to ryzen 9 9950x3d

[@OCDGeek128]

Same here, I don't think so tbh 7800x3d is still very much chart topping, it still beats current gen Intel and even AMD (non x3d) in gaming Unless you absolutely need the best of the best, 7800x3d is still more than respectable.

[@Helscribe]

Not worth it for what you gain.

[@iftea7]

Yes, yes, you must upgrade to 9950x3d. 7800x3d is 2 yrs old. Think of how hard AMD worked in those 2 yrs on AI marketing alone!

[@auritro3903]

If you are only gaming, no. If you need productivity performance, definitely.

[@atthelord]

Please cover the Z2Extreme .

[@bfish9700]

Big old nothingburger. Dragon range refresh. Rembrandt refresh refresh. Some handhelds. 1 Strix halo laptop. Almost more disappointing than last year because last year we knew nothing was coming.

[@KhanhDinh291]

the 350 is a scam that'll lose to the 260 / 8845h. no reason why strix point couldnt directly replace hawk point, other than greed

[@Selandr]

No handhelds please

[@ohwhatworld5851]

9:57 One of the most hideous looking devices I've seen....

[@haloquayle]

Haven't finished video yet but I'm gonna put it out there that there's no such thing an amd laptop if it has an amd cpu but an nvidia or Intel GPU

[@DavidNgo86]

It was in 2 laptops. C'mon now.

[@SniperJ0N4H]

Please cover some more windows gaming handhelds. I have far too many non-Steam games for Steam OS to be a viable option. Also the lack of Anti-Cheat support is another big problem for me. I also like using Xbox Gamepass on my ROG Ally constantly.

[@joei4ever]

just dont get a Dell version, they are throttling so bad and loaded with crapware that slwos them down.

[@nitrologly]

Issue is that Dell has one of the best long-term driver supports. It's a double edged sword. Crapware but longer support.

[@joei4ever]

@nitrologly fxk them and support. Whats that worth when laptop runs like utter trash majority of the time.

[@YannYoy]

Canucks but zeee instead off zeed,

[@einstien2409]

These names are Soooooo Dog PoPo

[@ZenStrive52]

eh handhelds are more or less the same performance wise, it's their features that set them apart from each other. Also AMD's chips have been blazing some trails in "gaming" heavy laptops and high performance lightweight laptops. I am using HP OMEN 7840HS laptop paired with RTX4070 (no Radeon GPUs available for this specs..)

[@johnpp21]

rip these chips nvidia's new lineup gpu is much cheaper, 5070 is starting at $1300 compared to these would atleast starts at $1800 (their AI HX 370 is already at $1500)

[@fadellabadi533]

They didn't mention the laptop prices so how did you know?

[@johnpp21]

@@fadellabadi533 look up asus rog flow z13 price

[@GraviDAkai]

5070 is 540$ no?

[@KillaGorilla-l7z]

NVIDIA doesn’t even offer these types of chips wtf are you saying hahah

[@johnpp21]

@@KillaGorilla-l7z laptops with nvidia's rtx 5070 is starting at $1300 compared to this AMD's ai max apus

[@shassabo]

Halo would be nice for a small gaming HTPC and Steam.

[@HardwareCanucks]

It will be very expensive.

[@BrickTamlandOfficial]

looks like amd keeps doing the same with their arch. the ps5 pro uses rdna 2 as well. old tech that comes with a premium because amd claims they are new products. this shouldnt be allowed for companies to do.

[@andyH_England]

My take is that AMD is best avoided in the important market of ultrabooks. Apple is superior and Intel has better battery life and has more modern architecture rather than re-packaged older hardware. Gaming may be different but I do not care about those machines, especially as they are extremely expensive and hard to find.

[@CO8848_2]

I am still nursing that wound from upgrading from 7745h to 8845h and found my system slower. So no more random AMD cpu names, again.

[@LunasRa]

AMD isn't on my buy list, hasn't been for years. If they want to win back market share, they need to price themselves down like they used to be, at least 30% cheaper than Intel and I would even go lower than that.

[@NadeemAhmed-nv2br]

There's so much demand for the A. MD top NCP u's the EU, not buying. It makes zero difference, because even in the two thousand dollar laptops, they're almost always sold out. Not to mention they're at least twenty percent faster, on average, versus intel while using a third of the power

[@NotMrToast]

Have yall seen intel's keynote yet I just watched it after amd keynote and both of them are launching pretty good stuff

[@HardwareCanucks]

Yeah we didn't get their info until much later. Still going through it.

[@riazalmaroof]

But did AMD fix the monstrous power draw in HX chips ? Hope to see better battery life in this lineup

[@KillaGorilla-l7z]

They never had^^

[@EJTJ31]

Intel having no answer to the z2 extreme is just a straight up lie. There's already comparisons to lunar lake and the hx370 with the 890m graphics(the z2 will most likely be a cut slightly cut down version), and they basically trade blows with each other.

[@aflury]

Looking forward to the review of the new ROG Flow Z13. Maybe I can get my kid off her iPad...

[@bobo-cc1xw]

Since the leak over a year ago ibam on the hype train. 130w in a handle held makes a nice portable heater too

[@notchipotle]

9955HX3D sounds more like a monitor name than a CPU lol

[@HardwareCanucks]

Better than Ryzen AI Max+ Pro 390

[@bobo-cc1xw]

Monitors The gold standard for name conventions

[@kipa_chu]

AI AI AI AI AI And the laptops are too extensive. No wonder Nvidia wins

[@gdotone1]

max, max, you talk about copying apple.

[@qasimabbas5853]

Oh man, cant wait to buy that Asus Z13 2025 model

[@franzenrick3591]

Early❤

[@wilproz]

early