AMD RDNA4 RX 9070 XT ( 9000 Series ) - Crazy Leaks and News

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[@danverochraner6659]

If they can make 9070 xt on pair with 4070 ti or 4080 within the decent price I would be really considering it. I really want to show middle finger to Nvidia for their pricing. But AMD seems to be acting like Nvidia wingman instead of competitor.

[@Szilagyicsabaistvan]

Yeah ofc, everyone would consider it. I would even buy it for 600-700 for a good implementation. But here in Romania it will probably be around 800-900. A 4080 still costs 1200-1300 USD.

[@MB-dq2gz]

Both CEOs are family I believe 😅

[@jozopako]

If 9070 is 450 bucks (with tax) i am buying one instantly.

[@TheRealNikitos]

Dream more. It’s their flagship gpu. How much do you think the 9040 xt should cost then ? It will be probably 600- 700$

[@Akusen_Arcade]

Tbh, neither AMD or Nvidia has managed to offer proper value in the last 2 generations. It has been a matter of choosing the less shitty card at any price point.

[@thebearded4427]

The simple fact was that AMD had real bad software during 2010 and even when they fixed it people avoided them due to lack of trust. Nvidia has been considered the “safe” option, but they’re pricing themselves out of the market. If any company releases a decently priced overspecced card they would take almost all of the market for the next 5 years. People don’t need upgrades every year

[@mickaelsflow6774]

Most games don't warrant it. Plus, most games people actually play are MOBA, multilayer, competitive and smaller games and Indie. It's a crazy race at the top! But not for all games. You're right: we really don't need upgrades every year.

[@kevinerbs2778]

AMD never had 45% market share in 2010 I remember when the HD 5870 Eyefinity landed. They never gained any market share against Nvidia back then. Nvidia was always bought over AMD Even that P.o.S GTX 480 outsold the 5870 when it superior in every way the refresh was coming in the GTX 580, but didn't actually beat the HD 5870, but still sold 5:1. Don't know where "Jon Peddie" got their information, but is completely wrong AMD has never even broke 25% market share in the past 15 years in GPUs

[@MB-dq2gz]

True, I purchased AMD until the GTX 970. I even had a HD 4070 before that and crossfired HD 7050s which was my last AMD setup. Well technically I do own a 6800XT but that was just because I couldn't buy a 3080 because they were sold out I replaced it with a 3080 when they became available because the ray tracing simply sucked and they could not compete with DLSS.

[@broose5240]

This is what you call a hit piece. You could of just say amd bad Nvidia good

[@traversharty]

What's to come? A new 9700 GRE that's better at RT. It all depends on how much they charge for it....

[@AndyViant]

A 9700 gre with better ray tracing is fine... for around 9700 gre pricing. It'd need to be a $449-$499 product. It couldn't even try to sell for the GRE's original price

[@traversharty]

@AndyViant if that's the product I would fully agree.

[@eikbolha5883]

Expect that new 9070xt will háve performance 2% slove than xtx and RT performance as Rtx 4080 so those leaks that gpu is same power as 7900gre is fault and new leaks show that 9070xt performance of xtx

[@ebbebb91]

I really hope AMD gets their shit together because right now that 5070ti / 5080 looking like the move come next year for me.

[@suzuricato3794]

5080 going to be 1400 to 1700 based on the prices seen on prebuilts

[@Gg66226]

@@suzuricato3794yes man.5080 is ridiculous. 5060ti has 16gb vram. 5070ti has 16gb and same goes to 5080. Are u kidding me nvidia. 9070xt looks more value for money rn.

[@toxic-kojou652]

I don't know about that 5070ti maybe it makes sense and it all depends of how much Vram it has. 5080 looks like crap. It only has 10k cuda cores, 16gb of vram for the second best card thats not even good regarless of how fast it is. Not to mention it has 11k less cuda cores that the best card 5090. The 9070 is a bad card as well. The only card that makes sense is the 5090. Paying more than 1k for better dlss is not worth it specially if you have a 40 series. Lets see the price and everything at CES 25. After that we can say for sure if it makes any sense to get a 5080.

[@toxic-kojou652]

​@@Gg66226Price to performance no one beats AMD. But this 9070 is not as good as I was expecting. The card is below the 7900xtx and a little above the GRE. If the price is extremely good and you don't own a card that is this good it could work but even then nothing is competing with NVDIA right now. The only 2 cards that might be good next gen are 5070ti and 5090 The 5080 with 16gb of vram is just not worth it. The rtx 5090 is way above this card for the difference in price that they will have if you get any at MSRP at launch date.

[@Gg66226]

@ 9070 doesnt sound bad actually. It is said have almost 95% of 4080 super performance so for a 600-700$ card its good. Also it has 16gb VRAM. So mid range would be great

[@RobinStrower]

If the 9070xt comes out at 600$ the 7900xt is still as fast, except RT but has still more Vram. We will see in a few days.

[@ftlfx]

If they wanna challenge Nvidia's position in the mid range market, they need to bring the heat. Better pricing and great performance. Also, good supply, don't want to end up paying more to POS scalpers holding all the limited supply hostage.

[@ovemalmstrom7428]

I bought the Arc B580, really nice card for the price! I was hoping for AMD to make a good move, but more and more it seems to be lackluster.

[@techhub-tv]

Good choice!

[@catmeow11111]

Yeah, it seems like my next GPU will be an Intel too.

[@kaydenwheeler9111]

This was a high quality smear-ad. But saying Nvidia is affordable is laughable

[@jasonleslie9494]

Amd and nivda partnership is getting old Intel needs to step up with a high end card like a 4080 and we all would buy it

[@silver924]

What AMD needs is a Ryzen-like GPU. ...IWhen Ryzen was announcd, AMDs CPUs were a joke and only made sense in a sub $150 budget...and even then Intel had similar priced products which could compete.. Since release of Ryzen their marketshare doubled. So in the end they need a GPU, which may not the fastest, but has great performance with a great value and energyefficiency. So basicaly what Intel did with enterymarket, but with higher tier.

[@MarioMoerman]

AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT = (RTX 4080 rasterization & RTX 4070 Ti ray tracing) for RX 7900 GRE Price...

[@Estonian_Femboy]

6:00 nvidia isent afordebul

[@bustertn2014]

Think I'll wait to see the ACTUAL benchmarks of both companies cards...

[@pelle7771]

Maybe the people will buy it because Nvidia will go even more crazy with their prices and no one wants to buy an Intel GPU because you don't know if Intel will drop out of the market and stop the driver support. Maybe.

[@enriquepadilla2542]

you are taking poor quality leaks way too seriously. Taking the timespy benchmark as fact is a very poor choice as there are many other benchmarks that show 7900xtx performance for next gen, while there is only a single source for the 7900GRE perfomance. and they are giving you such an extreme price band im shocked you believe it. is it possible that is the only correct leak? yeah. But don't make conclusions with such flimsy evidence. if we do get 7900xtx performance for $650, thats a win in my book. 7900GRE for 450? also a win. there are so many possibilities .

[@beachboy_boobybuilder]

You are a brain washed fanboy.

[@beachboy_boobybuilder]

Brain washed fanboy

[@gullyvers]

This is so true, I don't understand how so many people believes this. Let's run some maths here: (data from TechPowerUp GPU database) The RX 7600 XT is 113% power of the RX 6600 XT. At launch the 6600 XT was 379 USD while the 7600 XT was 329 USD. That's an improvement of 30% in price to performance at MSRP. If we run down the same calculations with the rest of the GPUs we get : 30% for the X700 XT class, 36% for the X800 XT class and 40% for the X900 XT class. It'd be extremely disappointing to have a gen not improving in price to performance, I'd even say it would ruin the company whatsoever... Same with a very slight increase less than 20%. If the RX 9070 XT is having 7900 GRE level of performance (which is extremely unlikely, AMD has stated they don't want to compete with NVIDIA at high end, but the 7900 GRE is mid-range today and it's likely this level of performance will be low-mid range if not low-end in the next generation so it doesn't make sense for a flagship, even at midrange) then the price will be cut from 549 USD to around 400 USD to have a 35% price to performance improvement. Yet, it's very unlikely as well since it wouldn't allow AMD to price correctly the 9060 XT and the possible 9050 XT along side with the non XT version (if there is any). However, if AMD wishes to release a 600 USD card, the level of performance should match a 4080 Super level of performance (to get a 35% price to performance increase). If AMD releases a 500 USD card, the level of performance should be around 91% of the performance of a 4080 (a 4070 Ti Super is 86% so it would be 6% more than the 4070 Ti Super). Obviously all of that is just speculating with previous data in mind, but it's nothing fantasized. I'm taking previous data and copy and pasting results to the current gen. A disappointing gen would be a 20% improvement in price to performance, hell even 15%, not 5% or even 0% or even a decrease in price to performance ratio like some lunatics are believing. Just to be clear : a 500 USD 9070 XT with 15% improvement in price to performance (so a disappointing new gen...) would give you about the performance of a 4070 Ti.

[@enriquepadilla2542]

@gullyvers the 7900xt was a 10% increase in price to performance until the price dropped.

[@catalincatalin4101]

@@gullyversdamn, those are some in-depth stuff. I wish I had an advisor like you when buying stuff😂 I was about to buy a 7900xtx but there weren’t any good deals in Europe for Black Friday. So I’ve decided to wait next gen. I only want a 4k60 gameplay at decent price without needing to upgrade next year. My current rx580 has served me very well but the time has come

[@mx-gaming87]

It cant be more than 449$ if i must pay more than 650€ for this gpu in Germany that not mid high end gpu... yeah i talk about custom design price ^^ Like Sapphire or Power color. If it is more than 650€ lol than i buy 4070 ti super when the price drops little bit to 800€ when 5000 RTX series had dropped on Market.

[@hunn20004]

The market% number can be really misleading because of Net Cafes. Soon they'll start shifting towards AMD because the cafes will buy APUs for increased reliability and less moving parts.

[@techhub-tv]

Are internet cafes still a thing?

[@NadeemAhmed-nv2br]

​@@techhub-tvyes

Hm… maybe they are naming it to be in sync with current cpu naming so 9080xt with 9800x3d

[@dalesplitstone6276]

We need to wait for announcements, rather than rumors. Having stated this, the most recent rumored performance of the RX 9070 XT is 5% less than the RTX 4080. This would place the performance of the RX 9070 XT significantly above that of the RX 7900XT. In other words, at $649 MSRP it would deliver higher raster performance than the RX 7900 XT and much better RT performance, at about the street price of the RX 7900 XT. More important is that, if this performance is right, a cut down RX 9070 GRE could deliver the raster performance of the RX 7900 GRE and much higher RT performance for $449. Having stated this, the real volume is not at the upper midrange. It is at the under $399 price point. If the raster performance of the RX 9070 XT is within 5% of that of the RTX 4080, The raster performance of the RX 9060XT could be about 32% higher than the RX 6750 XT. And a cut down 24 CU variant could have 98% of the raster performance of the RX 6700 XT. AMD could potentially be offering a 10GB RX 9060 GRE with 98% of the performance of the RX 6750 XT for $279, with the 12 GB variant of the card priced at $299. The 6750 XT beats the raster performance of the RTX 4060 Ti, so what we could be looking at is a card with 12GB of VRAM, and better performance than the 4060 Ti in RT as well as raster, for $299. But like I stated, both the prices and performance are rumors. For all we know, the high end card will be the RX8800 XT and have raster performance 2% higher than that of the RX 7900 GRE, with much higher RT performance, and be priced at $499. Additionally, even if AMD announces an MSRP of $649 at CES, nothing prevents them from slashing this to $499 just days before the reviews go live. The $649 MSRP could be just jebaiting nGreedia.

[@NadeemAhmed-nv2br]

The dye size is equal to a seventy eight hundred x.T, so there's no way it will reach that performance

[@ShadowAngelS2K]

Does he know?

[@JayJay-jp5fu]

Maintaining status quo for 600 4080 ? Really

[@NadeemAhmed-nv2br]

Most noor leaks point that it will be equal to a 7900 gre aka much slower than a 4080

[@JayJay-jp5fu]

@NadeemAhmed-nv2br check out the latest leak. Closer to 4080 than 7900gre. The 7900 gre is older info

[@Generationalwealth94]

​@@NadeemAhmed-nv2br It's actually going to be at the same level as the 4070 Super, not so bad

[@m80A]

Get rid of Lisa Su. Things will improve afterwards.

[@NadeemAhmed-nv2br]

She's the only reason the company still exists as she brought it from bankruptcy to where it is now. And she is right, just like nvidia, to focus on margins because whenever in the past, amd went for market, share at the cost of margins, they didn't have enough money to invest for next gen and fell behind and nvidia won, anyways, so she's smart to make money. Uninvested to fight another day rather than amd's past ceos, which repeatedly brought a m d to bankruptcy

[@hunn20004]

9070 xt going to be Up to 850€ with tax , board partner margin, and store margin.