AMD Ryzen 7 5700X and Ryzen 5 5600 Review

[@KitGuruTech]

Buying one? got one already? let us know your thoughts. 00:00 Start 01:00 AMD 5700x / 5600 details 04:04 Comparison procedures 05:49 Clock speeds 06:47 Test results 09:07 Gaming results 12:05 Power Consumption 12:57 CPU temperatures 13:37 Precision boost Overdrive tuning 14:15 Manual overclocking 15:15 Overclocked results 16:07 Lukes closing thoughts

[@ECrowley3]

Ordered the 5600 from a massive online e-tailer and they sent me the 5700X instead. 100% wasted my Luck for the Year lol

[@KitGuruTech]

Well done !

[@tam8197]

Put the euro's on, didn't win, but they sent me 25 million quid anyway. 100% wasted my Luck for the Year lol

[@ricardofac47]

The 65W TDP of 5700X makes it simply amazing, runs cool and consumes as 5600 with more 2 extra cores for a little longevity. I think they earned my extra bucks for it.

[@kanyeeastlolz]

The 5600 is a better value. With the 5700x you have to buy a cooler too

[@ricardofac47]

@@kanyeeastlolz In some sale the difference today is just a few bucks, and the Wraith Stealth cooler serves just a backup, kind of inefficient and loud as a cheap cooler box always be, they should come at least with the Wraith Spire to worth it.

[@MoroZ4300]

@@kanyeeastlolz I got My 5700x for 110€, only 10€ more then 5600X 😅

[@purplemicrodot58]

For me it comes down to the 5700X's lower TDP. I'm wanting to upgrade from a 3600 on a low/mid tier B450 mobo which already always ran uncomfortably hot. I've wanted a 5800X but just didn't think my system and vrms could handle it. In my particular case (which I think many share) the 5700X is exactly what I've been looking for in a quick, relatively inexpensive, and safe upgrade.

[@TTks124]

5800x it's just a 5700x with dual chiplet cpus power limit. Nothing more, nothing less. The stock power limits are pretty much counterproductive, since the OC throttles under load...... if you drop it somewhere to 95-110w you will most likely gain in average frecuency under gaming loads.

[@Obie327]

Purple, Being an owner of both the Ryzen 5800X , 5700X, And recently a 5600 I'm very impressed with the low power usage upgrades. Super cheap performance especially with current "New" system builds being way out of my budget. Example: replacing a 1600X with the 5600 is a no brainier on my B450 Aorus M system. Even my 5800X with PBO + curve got my temps down and clocks up when all core clocks matter. Being able to get 98 percent of the performance of the X while sipping power is a win in my book.

[@ElisonNilsonCoelho]

I did a new build with the 5700x, both the motherboard and the cpu was cheaper then the intel offerings here, really happy with it, I expect it to last a really long time, really fast processor.

[@SebasztianCH]

what about power consumption that you get? is it better than intel one??

[@ElisonNilsonCoelho]

I am getting the same result as shown in 12:31, actually even lower under normal taks, its eficient and runs cool, you can use a cheap air cooler for it as well, and also in case you really want the extra horsepower you can overclock it and get 5800x performance for free. I cant say about Intel because I don't have one to test, so you should use the chart for reference.

[@SebasztianCH]

​@@ElisonNilsonCoelho Are you planning to overclocking your 5700x tho? just curious. or you prefer to downclocking/undervolting it?

[@ElisonNilsonCoelho]

@@SebasztianCH My plan is to leave it stock for now ( its pretty powerful already ) and in the future if I see that I need more power I will overclock with the PBO settings, unlocking the TDP and runnning at full power, to get a bit more life out of it. I don't see the need to undervolt/downclock as that CPU in stock already runs in a lower TDP and also runs cool. downclocking/undervolting will be a option only if you are building a system prioritizing lower power comsumption, im my case I am not aiming for that much.

[@Billythekid80]

@@ElisonNilsonCoelho can you unlock a 5600g's power limit?

[@Ababb21]

Got a now Motherboard for Christmas so I am committed to the 5000 series for the next few years. With that I recently picked up the 5700x for $50 less than retail, for the longevity of 8 cores more than anything.

[@pkpnyt4711]

What needs to be mentioned in this review is the fact that a lot of B660 motherboards from $160 USD and below from Intel have crap VRMs/power limits and can't run anything higher than an intel i5. This was shown in the "hardware unboxed" review of B660's and really only the more expensive motherboards are worth it with Intel. This means the price difference is bigger than what is claimed here. As an example, theGigabyte B550M DS3 can be bought for $90 dollars and that can run the 5950x with no issue. None of the cheap ($160 USD and below) B660 boards can run an i7 much less an i9. This means that if you decide to do a drop in upgrade with a CPU you're going to need to buy a new motherboard with Intel in 2 years, while a person can buy a 5600 now and then buy a 2nd hand 5950x in a few years for a cheaper price.

[@fouraces9137]

What about DDR5 vs DDR4? Come on, why not just say Intel paid you, use the same DDR4 with both chips which I believe Intel has toughted they can do it then show results of apples to apples. Have to agree also came for a review and didn't get one.

[@vladinemir2600]

Notes 12:57 5700x runs much cooler than 5800x. 5900x and 12700K look pretty good in this regard too.

[@WebbTech1]

My 5700x is arriving tomorrow (already flashed my B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC to the latest BIOS), upgrading from the 3700x, which is still (for me) a well rounded CPU. What attracted me about the 5700x is the new architecture's performance at the same TDP of 65w, without having to invest and configure an AIO for something like the 5800x, which I have heard has "high temp" issues. Anyway, I appreciate this review...and no, I won't be changing my AMD system to have the INTEL performance of the 12600k or other INTEL cpu's current generations. As with any PC enthusiast reviews, it all comes down to individual budget and personal use-case for one's build.

[@maxbirdsey7808]

Nice :) I'm in a very similar situation. I have a 3700x but I'm going to pick up a 5700x as an indulgent upgrade (since the 3700x is still mostly good enough). I'm most likely going to move over to AM5 once DDR5 price and performance has improved so likely zen 4+/refresh, or zen 5 (which supposedly is a significant architectural change). I'd been looking at 5800x, 5800x3d and 5900x but all would require a cooling upgrade (especially the 58xx cpus). Plus I don't need more than 8 cores. The only place where the 3700x is lacking is in a reasonably modded KSP, where at 1440p it flutters below 60fps and can tank below 40. The larger CCX of Zen 3, thus unified cache, should really help alleviate that cpu bottleneck along with the other improvements that increase IPC/single threaded performance. What's nice is that I'll likely have some thermal headroom, so I can tune performance with PBO to reach my ideal thermals and noise. How are you finding your 5700x?

[@WebbTech1]

@@maxbirdsey7808 thank you...your detailed explanation of the CCX architecture of the 3700x resonates with me, though during it's (the 3700x's) tenure in my system my graphics card was an RTX 2060 Super Founder's Edition, with16 GB, 3600mhz RAM...which at 1440p yielded nice results generally while gaming: no stutters whatsoever, though I pushed the 2060 Super to it's limits in overclocking at times. Within the last month, I upgraded to the 5700x and the RTX 3070 and I couldn't be happier at 1440p! What I thought was "smooth and stutter free" at 1440p before is superseded now. Ultra settings are very easily achieved thus far in the games I play. I won't go over a detailed explanation of my PC case and it's cooling configuration, but essentially it's all air, a total of 6 case fans (excluding the wraith prism for CPU), and at load on all cores @4.6 ghz the temp peak is 71C. Not bad! There's so many directions of discussion to go into, but essentially I am enthralled now with my system. Up and coming generations are exciting, but I'm allowing time to "settle in" with my recent CPU and GPU upgrades! Cheers!

[@HuntaKiller91]

5700X is too late But 5600 for $160 tray is quite tempting,i might wait for it to drop below $149 since i prefer SAM with rx6600 over buying 12100-12400f

[@wickedgentleman4463]

what is 11 dolars my guy? In Brazil we get to pay absurdly high prices and have never cared about such low differences

[@michaelthompson9798]

Thanks for your honest feedback and review Luke 😇👍. For upgrades, the 5700x is a great choice with a bios flash and drop in upgrade. I don’t hoe I feel about the “too little, too late” comment as the whole global situation delayed many tech releases and will high demand for pc / pc parts & laptops AMD did what every manufacturer does and pushed out as much high-end stuff as it can sell. Yes I feel now these CPUs you’ve shown aren’t as powerful as Intels 12600k offering, but for many users a drop in upgrade is a cheap performance boost and for those willing to just do a dirty quick o/c it’s free performance. so for many budget pc owners this more than enough to hold off a complete pc upgrade and allow a future GPU upgrade which can be utilised. Intel has definitely given AMD a reason to kick it up another gear and it’s great to see a bit of tit-for-tat going on to help drive innovation in the industry.

[@theonlyredspecial]

Well said !!

[@KitGuruTech]

Very good analysis indeed! The drop-in upgrade factor really is a fantastic solution for both of these new chips. I can definitely see how a quick, easy, drop-in upgrade to the 5700X will appeal to a lot of people. It's what I'd be tempted to go for personally over a new motherboard and OS install etc.. I can also see how other people will happily switch platform for the better performance of the 12600K, so it's great to see both good options as consumers. The continued Intel-AMD competition is definitely good for us consumers in my opinion. Luke

[@tilapiadave3234]

5700x WASTE of sand. 5600 NONx and 5900x are the VALUE options

[@MrMrGuy]

As a 5600 owner who upgraded the 5700x. The 5700x worth price for 8 cores around $200. Even the 5600 is an amazing deal for $140

[@MT-UK]

I’m building my first gaming PC - I have a choice I can get the 5600x Or The 5700x I’m only able to really get a 3060ti so wondering your opinion having used both ? If it makes a difference - If I get the 5600x I can get 32GB ram whereas the 5700x only 16GB RAM - but obvs that’s for now only I can upgrade later I’d appreciate your thoughts

[@MrMrGuy]

@@MT-UK Since it's your first gaming PC. Go for 5600x with 32gb ram. 5700x is only better if your doing multi-core applications or emulation (RPCS3). I have 32GB as well and it's nice to have more RAM when you have lot of web browser tabs open. 5700x is great but not much of an fps uplift from the 5600x. 5600x and non x is the best value for gaming.

[@markdomenie5453]

Nice video! I just picked up a 5700x for 249 euro at Amazon in The Netherlands. Might as wel stay on AM4 for the next 3 years with current AM5 motherboard- and ddr 5 prices. I actually landed on this video because I couldn't believe my temps (only 47c during stress test with Deepcool AK400 cpu cooler). Awesome!

[@kravenfoxbodies2479]

Here in the U.S.Newegg is selling the 5700x for $199 USD and it comes with the free game Uncharted, I picked one up today to replace my 3700x as keeping with the 65watts package, I already have my 3700x sold and it"s going be a cheap upgrade!

[@Newtype2259]

I built a SFF pc, size is about 14 liters and thermals are always hard to manage in ITX cases. the 5700x is perfect to be paired with a 3080 in my SSUPD meshlicious:)

[@robp5286]

Running the 5600 on an Asus A320m-k and everything is great, vrms are cool after hours of gaming no issues. Cpu is the same runs lovely and cool with the stock cooler. A great budget cpu running on an old budget board.

[@KitGuruTech]

Have you had that ASUS A320 board since its launch a few years ago? If so, that's awesome longevity, especially for upgrading to a new chip! Luke

[@robp5286]

@@KitGuruTech yes it's been a great board, jayz 2 cents did a review on how awesome it was and how it was quicker than some high end boards due to having shorter traces the speeds were quicker. It is worth checking out his video. It shows this board up against a £170 aurous board and the benchmarks were slower on the expensive board.

[@robp5286]

@@KitGuruTech I was going to get either the 4500 or 5500 from the new line up until I did some research and realised how poor they are. For anyone out there thinking the same go for the 5600 as the other cpus are not much better than a 3200g or a 1600af. The 5600 will give you a 42% plus boost at stock speeds for only £40-£50 more.

[@KitGuruTech]

@@robp5286 The 5600 is a really good choice from the new line-up. Zen 3, good clocks, and still an affordable drop-in upgrade. Sounds like you have a very good solution indeed :D! Luke

[@robp5286]

@@KitGuruTech yes I am very pleased with it, was gaming last night (xcom 2) I know it's a few years old but I had it on max everything and cpu was at 11% lol paired with 1650 super (because waiting for gpu prices to drop like everyone else).

[@antos1951]

i recently got a 5700x for the lower tdp and 8 cores for longevity and so far im pretty happy with it temps are excellent aswell. clock temps are abit low tho i usually idle between 3.5gz-4.0gz and in gaming it stays up around 4.3gz-4.4gz otherwise im happy. and i had a 5600x before this but i always wanted an 8 core purely for the longevity part of it

[@KitGuruTech]

Good feedback, thanks. Did you choose the 5700X as it was a quick and easy - drop-in - upgrade as opposed to a big, more expensive switch? Luke

[@antos1951]

@@KitGuruTech it was a quick easy drop in from the 5600x to 8 core. and on top it is also a 65watt so the same efficiency aswell. just wish the clock speeds where abit higher. and im quite bad when it comes to overclocking

[@KitGuruTech]

@@antos1951 Sounds ideal in that case. If you have a decent cooler, it's worth trying Precision Boost Overdrive for a quick and easy boost in frequency. You'll probably get over 4.3GHz or so all-core on the 5700X with a decent cooler under PBO. Luke

[@antos1951]

@@KitGuruTech hi luke i actually have a noctua nh-u12a i have tried pbo but the boost speed is only around 4.2 so thats really strange actually im not sure why that is. is the cooler i have a good one?

[@KitGuruTech]

@@antos1951 4.2GHz is pretty good to be fair. Is that for all-core loading? The U12A is a good cooler. Luke

[@45eno]

Have a 24/7 media pc that shares files as well on my LAN. B450 tomahawk, 32gb 3200mhz and a GTX1080 on. LG 4K 60hz 55”. Had various CPU’s in it from 1600AF,2700x,3600,3700x and just yesterday sold the 3700x for $160. Turned around and bought the 5600 for $163 shipped from Newegg. IPC upgrade basically. I have a bunch of AM4 systems and as I upgrade it pushes hardware around and then out. Figured I would rather have a 5600 over the 3700x if I could make it a no cost switch. Won’t gain much at 4K 60hz but maybe it will help pull that last bit from the GTX1080. It’s was only $3 out of pocket which works for me. A year later update I returned the 5600 before opening it as I found a 5800x for $180 locally. $17 more to go from 5600 new to 5800x used. Still running strong in my other MediaPC in the living room. Cooled by a U9S with dual 92mm Noctuas, full power no eco mode.

[@carlosclara4759]

For a new buid I thinl this VPU will be alright. I am to paired with Gigabyte x570s aorus elite and Vorsair 3600mhz cl 16. My first buid I hope I am right.

[@smifffies]

With regard to Shadow of the Tomb Raider results the increased 1% lows of the Intel chip, at those fps figures, are irrelevant, as you would not be able to tell the difference between the two, no stutters etc. So effectively it's only the average fps that matters and as you say you would probably not notice the difference between the two chips, even though the win technically goes to AMD.

[@KitGuruTech]

Very fair point indeed. I guess the only caveat would be high refresh rate users who will indeed value even the 1% low FPS closer to their monitor's actual refresh rate. But as you say, they're already high enough on AMD and Intel to make the vast majority of users happy. Luke

[@45eno]

Just snagged a 5700x for $115 today and selling my 5600 for $100 this week including install/bios update. It's just in a MediaPC in the bedroom paired with x570s/6700xt/32gb. Does great to run locked 60fps at 4k for controller type games. Quiet, low watts and smooth modern games at 4k. The 5600x also did just as well though. But that 5600x moved down and pushed out a 5600 in my kids build.

[@uwebaganz5144]

I will order the 7 5700x this month, so I can use my x470 board a few years longer, for me this will be more than enough power, even my 5 2600x is fine so far

[@mikem9536]

5700x would be a pretty big upgrade.

[@uwebaganz5144]

@@mikem9536 yes it is

[@sdfwcsetv]

thank you for very goood comparison and tests and overclocking tests 5600 !

[@JayzBeerz]

5600 is $129.99 in the USA right now.

[@Loppy2u]

Great upgrade of 5600 from Ryzen 3 1200AF. Still think AMD should have priced it £150 for 5600 and £100 for 5500 for budget market share. I'll Keep on AM4 until ddr5 &pcie 5.0 6.0 gpu/ ssds mature.

[@KitGuruTech]

Now that's an awesome upgrade! Was it quick and easy with just a BIOS update? Luke

[@Loppy2u]

​@@KitGuruTech The whole process, using BIOS flashback to update the Gigabyte A520m old F3 bios, swapping CPUs, was fairly straightforward . Watched lots of videos before and took my time being careful not to drop the CPUs, bend any pins in the process.

[@KitGuruTech]

@@Loppy2u Excellent. The longevity and ease of upgrade on the AMD platform really is superb! Particualrly with these new CPUs being more affordable and also good performance. Luke

[@magnusnilsson9792]

I did roughly the same 1300X to 5600 on an Asus B350M-A, I got 4.441GHz boostclock out of the box @1.15V. Cost me £160 with a £30 discount.

[@Loppy2u]

@@magnusnilsson9792 That's great from B350 board. Reason decided to upgrade a520 to b550 or x570 to get those boosts from a better board.

[@Zupez]

I'm upgrading from my 3700x. I just bought a 5600x for £195 then found 5700x for just £235 so thinking of returning the 5600x for the 5700x. Love to hear peoples thoughts? Also would my Wraith Prism cooler from the 3700x work fine with the 5700x. Plan to re-use it if possible

[@MT-UK]

What did you do in the end? I have a choice of a 5600x (32GB RAM) Or 5700x (16GB RAM) Running a 3060ti What did you do?

[@Zupez]

@@MT-UK I personally went with 5600x. 5700x in terms of gaming is minimally better so not worth unless you need the extra frames/cores. The extra 16gb RAM would benefit you more IMO

[@MT-UK]

@@Zupez I appreciate that - it’s my first time building a PC .. so it’s been pretty new to me Numbers can be deceiving and everything I seem to be reading and hearing is saying 5600x to save the money I’d like the i5-12600k but the pricing build doesn’t fall within budget that I’ve found anyway … If you don’t mind me asking what GPU do you run - again pricing holds me at 3060ti

[@Zupez]

@@MT-UK I currently have an RTX 3070, Ryzen 5 5600x & 16GB 3200MHz RAM but may do a little RAM & CPU upgrade this year because I stream & game so 32gb 3600MHz & Ryzen 7 5800x3D could be some good cost effective upgrades for me

[@smifffies]

Surely most of the i5 performance is down to the DDR 5 memory, would have been better to compare with DDR4 on B550/B560 boards as more realistic and would still give you accurate CPU results, as this is what you are testing.

[@ares23dc]

Surely not. 10400F was already better than the Ryzen lineup. And 8700K is still better than 5600X. Intel had the lead since 8th series, core to core comparison.

[@KitGuruTech]

Not really with DDR5. We did a comparison video between DDR5 and several DDR4 kits back when the 12th Gen launched. Other than 7-Zip file compression, there isn't much difference between 5200MHz DDR5 and a good set of dual-rank DDR4 (like used on the AMD platform) even in games. With that knowledge, we stuck with DDR5 for the comparison so that we can see full performance from the Intel chips and also full performance from the AMD chips by using 3600MHz (1800MHz IF) dual-rank DDR4. Luke

[@tilapiadave3234]

[@smifffies]

@@tilapiadave3234 I have no idea what a soyboy is, probably a teenage comment, or like the made up word "meme". As a 60 year old with lots of experience and common sense I have purchased mainly AMD CPU's since my 386 DX40 due to across many years of building/diagnosing/repairing PC's, since mid 1980's, AMD CPU's have 80% to 100+% of their Intel comparisons at around 60% of the cost. Oh and for goodness sake take some grammar lessons and learn how many comma's after a word you need in a sentence or are you really 13.

[@smifffies]

@@ares23dc 8700K was only a little better in some games, it mainly depended on GPU. In productivity the R5 5600X pretty much annihilated the 8700K. By the way why compare an i7 against an i5 competitor? surely you should be comparing 8700K against the R7 5800X. Oh and if we are talking Alder Lake then the R7 5800X3D pretty much beats the i9 range, Intel's top gaming CPU at significantly less cost and using DDR4 memory. The 10400f does not even come close even though it costs a lot less for the CPU, the memory costs etc make the 12400f system similar cost to the R7 5800X3D system

[@aaronmurray2277]

Ahh, so Intel's NEW CPUs are indeed faster. Oh, let's not forget that it took 4 generations of Intel CPU releases to surpass AMD 5000 series. So, I would say if you can get a GREAT deal on any 5000 series chips then that's a $$$ win.

[@LawrenceFoster-i7j]

What Luke couldn't have known is that the 5700x would go on to be heavily discounted and in 2024 has *tremendous* price/performance at about £150. No brainer for anyone looking for a simple, inexpensive upgrade from a 2700x, 3600, 3600x or similar. Can then sit on hands using a still powerful desktop until zen4 and/or Core i7 pricing becomes more reasonable.

[@KitGuruTech]

Yes the prices are great in 2024, agree.

[@X1th]

Will AMD show new Ryzens May 24-27 at Computex 2022?

[@starofeden9277]

i dont understand why the 5700x is at 3.85? it runs up to 4.6 by default and casn be overclocked to 4.7-4.8 its on reddit ..people achieve that but you run at 3.8?

[@starofeden9277]

@Juri V no full load is at 4.650. not 3,8 like his also when at idle it is at 3.4 supposedly but i see it hovers a lot at 3.6 actually so full load is defibately not at 3.8 there is something wrong with the video of the poster

[@starofeden9277]

@Juri V true..1-2-4 cores i have seen 4.65 at deault 4.6-4.7 all cores is done with overclocking and tuning

[@Jomi91]

What is presenters accent? Seems to veer between Geordie and Welsh.

[@KitGuruTech]

Luke is from Wales - Geordie? really - im sure he will find that funny to hear !

[@KitGuruTech]

Not the first time somebody has said I sound Geordie haha! Luke

[@redrock425]

Definitely Welsh

[@shaunosmorrison8385]

sticking with my R5 5600 for as long as possible, great CPU

[@letalmike]

5700X on par with 12600K,but way cooler and way better energy efficient. On top of all that is the lower price. So... what's the point of this Intel heavy payed video? Of course nobody mention about LGA 1700 cpu/socket wrong design that leads to 12 series overheat in heavy threaded tasks. Intel still has much work to do for beating AMD. Maybe 13 gen will compete,but i also have doubts.

[@Jeymez]

it's never too late, Zen 4 around the corner has no bearing on anything.

[@cardinalseven1168]

well im on r51600 with x470 mobo and im looking for cpu to upgrade

[@donkeysunited]

At first I wondered why you were reviewing CPUs that have been out for over a year. And then I realised that AMD never released the 5600. That seems like a major delay from them for what would have been a very popular CPU back then.

[@RobBCactive]

They didn't need to release the 5600, they were selling everything against weak Intel line and general high demand for PCs. The price adjustment and new SKUs are preparing for Zen4 & AM5 launch in September as well as Alder Lake. Right now even new AM4 builds can make better sense when mobo costs are factored in, given local price & availablity of Intel 12th gen. I saw figures suggesting Intel were selling overwhelmingly i7/9 12th gen. On Zen4 launch, there may be further falls in Zen3 prices, but an Intel increase is expected so the budget SKUs could stay where they are.

[@David-kl7gs]

Which one if better for 4060

[@whatyareckon5985]

So what you're saying throughout this review is a brand new generation of CPUs are quicker than CPUs with 2 old year architecture? Its embarrassing intel isn't quicker lol

[@1q3er5]

SIGHHHH i'm on a x370 mobo and I am struggling to pick what cpu to upgrade too (i have a 3600x now) should i cheap out and just use my pc for a few more years (5600) or go balls out and get a 5900x (5950 way too much for me). seems like no one likes the 5700x :(

[@KitGuruTech]

I personally think the 5900X - particularly at its new pricing - is a really good chip. Depends on your use case though, as the 5800X3D could be a good, simple upgrade for gaming alone. Or the 5600 overclocked if you want to save some money for gaming alone. Luke

[@Jeymez]

nobody pays attention to 1% low, even on monitors with good refresh rate.

[@SgtRock4445]

Comparison with a 3600 would have been nice. Probably not worth the upgrade.

[@gotworc]

Definitely worth the upgrade just went from a 3600 to a 5700x and it's no longer bottlenecking my gpu in newer games

[@SgtRock4445]

@@gotworc which GPU do you have?

[@carloslara8067]

For me " to little to late " don't matter I'm to going to paired with a Gigabyte x570S aorus elite. No wifi.Air cooling.

[@btudrus]

idle power consumption???

[@ares23dc]

Why would anyone care about that? Your PC should not be ON if doing nothing

[@btudrus]

@@ares23dc A home server, for example? A PC which you write text with (along with some more intense tasks)? There are many reasons for knowing that. Why would anyone care about "game performance"? Playing computer "games" is dumb and is making you stupid...

[@ares23dc]

@@btudrus That is not idle. And if you want a low power cpu, Intel has plenty, new and old.

[@btudrus]

@@ares23dc That IS virtually idle. This is about AMD, so a test should include measuring idle as well. Who cares about Intel, anyway?

[@ares23dc]

@@btudrus Everyone in need of a low power cpu cares about Intel. Gamers care as well. I'm not sure if you are trolling or not. AMD is at the moment not the best for gaming, nor for low power PCs.

[@creed5248]

Prices are still too high for these parts

[@tilapiadave3234]

I agree a lot of AMD is overpriced ,, BUT a recent sale here 5600 with a GOOD quality B550 at under $220 saw me stock up.

[@JayzBeerz]

i just bought 6 of 5600 for $129.99 each.

[@creed5248]

@@JayzBeerz - yeah I just saw those prices - so tempted to get one

[@JayzBeerz]

@@creed5248 if you got the money get one it's great for a low budget gaming rig. At $129.99 I couldn't pass it up. Newegg has it for $129.99 with $20.00 coupon and Amazon has it for $149.99.

[@shaneharris2497]

This guy is clearly an Intel fanboy calling 4 fps a huge advantage zzzzz. I call crap on this review

[@ares23dc]

Conclusion: get the 12400F.

[@KitGuruTech]

tsk tsk. sad face.

[@MaffeyZilog]

Biased little headline. Too little too late for what?