AMD Ryzen 7 9700X Overclocking Review with 8PACK 💪

[@Shockabukuu]

Why is everyone ignoring the Ryzen 7 7700 non-X? It's got the same 65W TDP and 88W PPT as the 9700x, with 96-98% the performance of the 7700x, while costing lower

[@BenShrim]

@@Shockabukuu Fanboys

[@lir4e]

Exactly, they don't wanna look around, it's easier to make a video if you ignore the 7700

[@Caveman787]

Its also cheaper and comes with a cooler. Its fanboying to ignore the full details. No matter what way its cut they failed this generation.

[@Lennox032]

your correct, thats the CPU to get that is nearly the same performance for alot less,

[@adam88099]

Daniel Owen did a really nice review nailing all those points. Should check him out. Relatively small channel. 😊

[@ianparry4880]

Master of every single thing this guy!!!

[@pappy374]

That near 50% temp increase from PBO is pretty gnarly.

[@engineeringdisillusion]

Finally, a review made by a working brain!

[@yakumoyukari4405]

@@engineeringdisillusion >Implying Gamer Nexus, JTC and HUB are stupid >Thinking that everyone are overclocking everything 🗿

[@ThaexakaMavro]

@yakumoyukari4405 i mean yeah they're opinion and most reviews are positive

[@robertmyers6488]

Amen. There is some serious self owns going on at the moment.

[@cuteAvancer]

​@@yakumoyukari4405 Me on my way to go from an OCed 9700k to go oc a Ryzen 9700x 🗿 (Also gap hag pfp no wayy)

[@yakumoyukari4405]

@@cuteAvancer Me who never overclocks for the fear of screwing things up or just to keep my hardware live as long as possible: 🗿🍷 (Don't call her a hag or else you will have the train dropped on your spine >:[[[)

[@WeebMechaSpaceNinja]

Appreciate the vid mate. Pretty straight forward and to the point

[@mauriciob8260]

congratulation , Leo and You are the best objective review so far . For me this CPU is for those that want to upgrade from early ryzen generations like from the the 3700X/5700X , also the Ryzen 9700X have a good overclocking potential as some famous overclockers already tested

[@nomchompsky3012]

Get the 7700 non-X instead - maybe 5% slower, same efficiency as the 9700X, but way cheaper and has a cooler in the box.

[@jerrym1401]

Actually youre wrong, those with 3700x are getting 5800x3d and getting same perf as 9700x

[@Scoobydcs]

From the few vids iv seen I'm getting the impression that stock there's barely any difference in performance but a bit gain in power usage. REALLY interested to see what happens if you open the power up and stretch their legs. Especially waiting for the x3d overclocked

[@Haydatsanime]

@@Scoobydcs there are some reviewers who have doubled the power draw and shown it able to beat 7800x3d in fps and 1% lows especially in 1440p or higher.

[@Scoobydcs]

@@Haydatsanime above 1440p ßhifts the bottleneck towards the gpu so I'd be wary of testing cpus at high res

[@jjlw2378]

​@@HaydatsanimeWhich reviewers have shown that?

[@casper18795]

Youre going to be waiting for a very long time for those overclocked x3d results.

[@manusiaorang2842]

hopefully the overclocked 3d chips doesn't blow up like before

[@Twitch_Moderator]

*5,200MHz ram when the AMD site specifically says the SPD support is 5,600MHz.* *I called this issue a month ago. I said everyone is going the THINK the 9000 series CPUs are stuck on the 5,200MHz SPD support. What a drag that I was right.*

[@elu5ive]

and they run perfectly well in 1:1 mode at 6400mhz

[@doc7000]

@@elu5ive I think level1 got his to run 1:1 6400 though unless others have tried it then I don't think you can say "they run perfectly well in 1:1 mode at 6400". Maybe they all can though likely some better samples can and some can't.

[@elu5ive]

@@doc7000 dude, I myself have it running 6400mhz 1:1 after a bios update half a year ago. there was no "getting it to run". just update bios, drop in 6400 ram into the slots, enable expo. done

[@silfrido1768]

@@elu5iveit’s actually 2:1 even tho you calculate values for ram frequency in 3:1

[@michaeloneill1360]

Love your Accent Mate!!

[@m.m.3753]

Under gaming the powerdraw on 7700x is Same as the 9700x der8bauer showed this, too. So...

[@sezwo5774]

Incredible. Great idea to lead him and show visually with fingers that he needs to answer 4,3,2,1 questions.

[@robertmyers6488]

Great review. Would you mind sharing the static clock frequency and voltage?

[@Khalidd7]

professional review

[@MrHonestZ1]

I liked your review of the CPU even though some people didn't try to overclock it on there reviews .

[@Stalast.]

Both memory configurations that you've tested are not sensible and fail to show how performance scales with memory frequency while 1:1 mode is maintained.

[@rhekman]

True. AMD's own website lists DDR5-5600 as the "stock" ram speed, so I don't know where the 5200 in the video came from. And I've seen other reviewers successfully test DDR5-6400 with a 1:1 uclock to mclock at 2200MHz. (YMMV) For example Skatterbencher got another 6% average benchmark improvement over PBO2 with just the RAM overclock so saying "tuned ram doesn't really do anything" is patently false.

[@mostlyindica]

Exactly.

[@Caveman787]

@@rhekman It was highly important in the last generation as well. You got more performance from memory tuning properly than core speed in many cases.

[@dawienel1142]

Popeye is doing PC tech? Instant sub from me.

[@justincase2312]

Good analysis here. Above and beyond other popular reviewers. PBO2 usually involves an voltage underclock to allow the processor's boost to stretch it's legs a bit more and doesn't result in higher power draw and temps like you've shown here. It sounds like you're using PBO2 along side PBO or some other method of increasing the defaulte voltage parameters.

[@Cinnabuns2009]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXi5aKRseLtqfbs

[@UNDERGROUNDHITRADIO]

learning from the master here!

[@facegamefps6725]

This is the only dude I respect

[@Paco-2013]

why not share results, what corespeed you did the manual overrclock and what voltage

[@multiplyx100]

It would have been nice to see a comparison between 7700X OC/PBO and 9700X OC/PBO.

[@Psi-Storm]

The 7700x was already in the temperature limit, so pbo wouldn't do much there. He would have needed a bigger cooler.

[@PhotoJohn80]

Good work. Just wish you had some games to show improved performance against other cpus.

[@robertronnback3265]

What is the settings recepe to get as low temps as possible, without mayor perfomance loss? Thanks!😊

[@casualnerdjason6678]

*Edit: To clarify, yes our man says to use AIO. I meant more to ask what people’s everyday actual has been when overclocking. Worth overclocking with an AIO? Or just save and use stock with a $35 USD air cooler? Thanks ❤* Friends, help. It sounds like a moderate air cooler should be fine for the 9700x at stock settings… BUT if I am tinkering with overclocking, should the 9700x get an AIO cooler? I’m building a brand new AM5 platform that I hope to keep for the next 5-6 years. I’m being gifted a 9700x, so that’s the starter CPU I’m starting with. It’s also my first full build instead of upgrading prebuilts. Let me know if you think I should go for an AIO for PBO2 and/or manual. Thanks!!

[@SoriPop]

Well done hands down the best review on the KZbin

[@nemolition]

💪 This guy!

[@Ironclad17]

Would really like to see a breakdown on how these new cpus perform with Curve Shaper.

[@Psi-Storm]

@@Ironclad17 Won't do much for multicore performance. Pbo with negative voltage offset works fine there. This just can lead to instability if you then only load a few cores and try to boost them to max, because they don't get enough voltage. This is where curve shaper comes in. It can add extra voltage to those partial loads.

[@teojasper6358]

I am building this, how you think of the spec? good or bad ? Build for some gaming , daily work , etc photoshop and video editing NZXT H5 Flow RGB 2024 Edition (Black) AMD Ryzen 7 9700X | 8 Cores 16 Threads Gigabyte Aorus WATERFORCE II 240mm AIO Gigabyte X670 Gaming X AX V2 32GB PNY XLR8 Mako Gaming DDR5 6000MHz CL36 (16x2) Gigabyte RTX 4070 Super Windforce OC - 12GB Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut (1g) 1TB Lexar NM790 Gen4 SSD (R: 7400 | W: 6500) 1TB Lexar NM790 Gen4 SSD (R: 7400 | W: 6500) Hard Drive (None) 6X Aftershock S1 ARGB 120mm Fans (Black) 850W Gigabyte UD 80+ Gold (Full Modular)

[@najeebshah.]

Much better than the briandead hardware unboxed review

[@tonybarden8563]

ironic that you cant even spell braindead.............................

[@vertigoz]

With overclock it still uses less power than intel, did i got that right?

[@vertigoz]

@@CitarNosis317 I was checking 14700k an in cinebench it said to drain 280w. For about 20% over 7800x

[@mikelay5360]

It's a current gen product with leaps and bounds better process node. Not surprising to anyone. I'd love to see them at the same node

[@lir4e]

Because if someone buys Intel doesn't really care about power draw. I personally don't care and I'm very happy with my 13700k which doesn't crash because I wasn't dumb enough to let my Mobo cook my CPU... If you undervolt and overclock Intel correctly you get even better results with lower power draw... There you go.

[@lir4e]

​@@CitarNosis317why would I want to disable E-cores? Lol Didn't I pay for them??

[@richard.c.guitars]

Why did none of the other reviews on KZbin use pbo?

[@SentaDuck]

I think they were just using AMDs recommendation on how to run it. Some did use pbo and I'm sure others will do more tests, they only had limited time to do test between receiving samples and their release day videos.

[@johni-db4xv]

they can create another video for that

[@vasudevmenon2496]

Mini htpc and itx builds are back without worrying out hotter PC.

[@bodasactra]

The 5600X3D smacked the piss out of the 9700X in Gamers Nexus game test. A 6 core CPU based on 5 year old architecture two gens behind held it's own versus the 8 core 9700X. GN was stunned they had memory stability issues with both 9700X/9600X when AMD knew what board GN was going to use and provided a tuned BIOS for that board! People on mature, stable, reliable, AM4 should stay on AM4 and drop in a 5000X3D and ride it for years.

[@Berserkism]

Steve's schtick is complaining, constantly negative because his audience feeds off it. It's actually tiresome and boring. There are plenty of other reviews showing it easily beating the 5800X3D in pretty much everything so I wouldn't put too much stock in the Complaint Face Thumbnail Queen.

[@bodasactra]

@@Berserkism Be that as it may, the 5000X3D parts are true contenders in this league going punch for punch. The standard 9000X series is nowhere near compelling enough to get AM4 owners to purchase an entirely new platform when a very attractively priced drop in upgrade provides instant, near equal, high quality gaming without the anxiety of memory instability or heat issues. 5000X3D also does something else that the 9000X can never do, allow AM4 users to keep the mature, stable, reliable, platform, they already own and love. I am so happy to know my 5600X3D/MSI MEG Unify B550 monster board is good for more than a few years yet. I got that $300 board for only $79 brand new and after selling the bundle parts with my old CPU the 5600X3D only cost me $119 after the dust settled. Those legendary value wins, along with the rare, exclusive, nature of the 5600X3D lends an intrinsic value for me. Its the best price/performance build I have ever accomplished by a country mile.

[@bayanzabihiyan7465]

A new IOD won’t do anything special. Current IOD can actually overclock memory quite well, but the real thing you gotta change is the CCD-IOD interface. It’s an on-package GMI3 link and incurs some latency. And latency become much more of an issue at higher clocks. You’d have to replace both the IOD and CCD with a better interface like the one used on RDNA3 cards if you want any significant memory reduction. But of course that costs more.

[@maxtromm]

PBO + CO = KING!

[@tonymarsh5449]

Interesting review, most other sites reviewing these new CPU's are slating them especially due to cost.

[@Roguey]

Well unfortunately overclockers could have a motive for more positive review.

[@karlos1060]

It is a dud of a CPU not? Come on! It costs in the Netherlands 426€ and costs more then my I7-14700KF. Only if you are braindead you would chose that CPU over the Intel. The Intel issue is only on systems where people did not interfere with Vcore and power management. Most people are to dumb for that. Overclocking the way overpriced 8 core AMD 9700X is a joke! 5,7% more performance for 70% more power usage! And you call that call that interesting?

[@Goorood]

Most other reviews are done by people that dont know how to turn on the PBO. Value of such reviews is close to zero. Only der8auer and now 8PACK bothered to bypass the absurdly low 65W TDP limit that is chocking the 9700X by turning on the PBO and actually doing some minor tuning and got the real picture of the new CPU. No gamer, no power user in their right minds will be using these CPU's at 65W limit on a Desktop. Unless its some completely clueless Joe that does not know to find a button to enter BIOS and click on enable PBO. Those can watch Hardware Unboxed and other junk "reviews" 😂

[@tomstech4390]

They slated Zen4 for the same reason, costs never come down right?

[@mikelay5360]

I don't see gaming comparisons here 😂. I think he knows something.

[@DavidzinhoFC]

Would be great if you include 7800X3D into this comparisons please

[@PaulRoneClarke]

Those are pretty much the exact same results I get with my 7700 (none X) which I bought 6 weeks ago for £80 less than this costs. I'm running at about 2% lower performance overall at temps that are within a degree of this and power draw that is identical to this. £80 premium for a 2% uplift in performance? That doesn't seem like much of a jump to me.

[@isbestlizard]

It's a shame there's so few workloads where 8 cores is necessary and sufficient, like most workloads 8 aren't necessary and if they are, 16 are better too so why stop at 8. You're either going to want the 9950X, the 9800X3D, or the 9600 at 50% the price.

[@multiplyx100]

True if cost is not considered, but it's a good balance at the price, and great as a general use CPU.

[@rheh2570]

thanks so much for this.. a simple video that shared BOTH temp comparison between 7 and 9 series CPU AND showing AMD gave us consumer a choice to boost CPU for more performance. allows many of us to keep cooling these CPU with air cooling solution. other channels kept releasing video from one angle.. not the complete picture and options. dare say this video was better than GN review :)

[@nomchompsky3012]

Er. This guy compared a 65W 9700X to the 105W 7700X, instead of the 65W 7700 non-X. He made the same mistake most reviewers did. AMD took the 9700, added an X, added $30 to the MSRP, and removed the cooler from the box. Zen 5 is a gigantic flop if you compare the same class of CPUs against each other, which is why AMD called this the 9700X. It was banking on channels like this falling for the trick and saying "look! Zen 5 is way more efficient!" when actually it's barely more efficient than Zen 4 on desktop if you compare 65W Zen 4 vs 65W Zen 5.

[@xxzenonionnex7658]

@nomchompsky3012 it is infact more efficient regardless if it's compared to the 7700 or 7700x. Performance per watt determines efficiency, not tdp.

[@XtergoBlue]

Loved the intro, more of this guy please

[@Ray88G]

Thank you . But some people like me needs the extra memory bandwith .

[@owcvc]

test in games?

[@acolyte8564]

Wish they were faster out of the box, but idk we'll see when the x3d come out if its enough to get me off my 5800x3d.

[@grajossyt6046]

Any advice on what to do , i just auto OC on the radeon software and now my pc isnt starting (booting) on the gpu went well but the cpu didn’t work , now i dont know how to turn it on or restart it

[@OverclockersUK]

Please try this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJ-YZ2V3lL2Yosk

[@csabauri351]

I wonder ,6400mhz gear1 is still the max limit or 9xxx could do 6600/6800 gear1 ? Its a shame nobody testing it. My last hope is Buildzoid.

[@UNDERGROUNDHITRADIO]

my 9700X does the same as my 7800X3D, 6600 in gear 1 and 6800 for benching. fclk also the same at 2200. max ram speed around 8400

[@cjpartridge]

Consider there are only minor refinements to the memory controller, running above 6400 at 1:1 is likely going to depend on the quality of your individual chip.

[@JMNovak1011]

Looking like same limits on these chips unless you get golden sample. I picked up a 9600X to play until the 9950 come out and my 64GB is still maxed at 1:1 6400 CL30 with fclk of 2133 on my AsRock B650E. Does make a difference going from 5200 to 6400 depending on program getting 2-8% uplift on avg. I'd say. These chips are power/bandwidth starved. Was able to push 5.8ghz single core and 5.5ghz multi.

[@georgwarhead2801]

@@cjpartridge when do people start to understand, that this has nothing to do with the memory controler...its not the same as a intel chip...

[@robertlawrence9000]

That's odd. How are other reviewers getting up to 20% improvement with overclocking?

[@Brakiri]

They don't. If you listen closely there are certain single benchmarks that have a 20% gain. Mostly these are very specific and really don't translate to applications most people use and certainly not to game performance. Overall performance gains generation to generation is still very weak and nothing to phone home about. Why the hell is the cope in these comments so high? Are you all retarded? Intel is down, AMD can do what they want and the 9th gen is just not worth the money atm why is that so hard to grasp?

[@ThePred2009]

For this early on getting good overclocks

[@DAG42085]

You can do all the tests you want but the best CPU for gaming is and will be for another 6 months and we will see what the 3D of this generation brings the absolute king 78003D

[@jukkapekkaylitalo]

When y allow unlimited TDP i think y make one problem with oc that is to go restricted TDP to thermal throttling TDP. AMD keeps temps all cases under 95. But i think there might be some temp limit gates that say now y go too high lower your Frequenzy.

[@SirSomnolent]

Not entirely sure why AMD didnt remove the 'x' and include a wraith prism cooler with these. I cant imagine theyre planning on a 9700 @45w tdp

[@tomstech4390]

Having the X on all of them is dumb anyway (also I guess no wraith prism because thats like another $20). Ryzen 9 9950X?.... could easily just be "Ryzen 9950" Intel core ̷I̷ Ultra 9 15700K?......... Intel core 15700K Much cleaner

[@aflyingcowboy31]

@@tomstech4390 "Ryzen 9 9950X?.... could easily just be "Ryzen 9950"" The X basically means it is a better cpu (better pefromance), there are in fact non X cpus i.e. there is the 7700X and the regular 7700. The X CPUs have higher default TDPs then the non-X CPU.

[@Agp1597]

XD the old man flexing not only CPU but also muscles, good video , by the way we need more videos like this , AMD needs to know that releasing crapy CPUs wont unpunished

[@tomstech4390]

I wanna see the rest of this video, what happens with +200mhz frequency offset? Old school overclocking is dead and we live in a era of throttle management so you raise PBO to raise the power limit (to the predefined specs they allow which is BS) and then have to do voltage offsets to prevent it hitting those power limits and then you're only allow another +200mhz, wtf. So if its 5000mhz stock, then 5300mhz with PBO set to infinite, then you get 5500mhz with +200mhz offset. You do a manual overclock and shocker you can't really get more than 5500mhz anyway as if thermals or power is holding it back like a gimp on a leash. Its been a thing since gen1, 1800x max turbo 4Ghz, manual oc was max 4ghz 2700x max all core with PBO etc was around 4.2Ghz and sure enough manual max was 4.2ghz +/-100mhz, 3950x would max out around 4.2Ghz with PBO or 4.3Ghz manual.... even though all cores turbo upto 4.6Ghz individually just fine in normal use, I managed to get one of my 5590's to 4441mhz with PBO and 101blck, whats the most you can get on AIO manual? probably not much more but I bet you're giving up the 4.8Ghz *all* the cores can boost to individually. I miss when a cpu came at 4Ghz, would turbo to 4.5Ghz and you could do a manual OC to 5Ghz, y'know, an overclock... faster than stock. But we don't get that anymore. Zen5 can go upto 5.7Ghz... cool lets see a 9600x do 5.8Ghz all core on ambient cooling (420mm custom loop with shaved IHS, dont mind). Atleast it's not intel.

[@SaccoBelmonte]

No surprises. OC on these chips means better MT score but little or no gains on ST. Cinebench results are meaningless aside from a number because professionals render with GPU.

[@dorion9111]

9700x 65 watt 7700 NON X 65watt so the X on 9700 is a SCAM. WAKE UP ALREADY!

[@puffin_time]

Kind of similar to how they reshuffled all of the non-XT GPUs to XT

[@johnlangley7521]

Temp monitoring and reporting has been revamped for the new core, cant really compare it to the last gen

[@weirdodude1173]

I just ordered my 9700X today. I have DDR5-6000 CL30 memory for it, but I was curious about higher speed memory performance. It really seems like PBO is needed to unleash these, and I do have an AIO that I'll be using. Thanks for testing things out! Thumbs up.

[@karlos1060]

My condolances on your purchase 🤣 paying premium price for a mediocre performance 😂 in gaming a lot of times slower then the old 7700X. And with PBO you have between 4,4 and 5.7% extra performance depending on wich YT you follow for an increase powerdraw of between 70 and 90%. Haha congratulations. AMD buyers are really stupid!

[@Cinnabuns2009]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXi5aKRseLtqfbs

[@anistardi]

@@CitarNosis317 Do you watch this video? He want to overclock it.

[@rtchannel8171]

easily with just show the number.

[@glubrix]

Everyone who complains about these CPUs are fools who understand nothing about computer science. I congratulate you because you are a serious and smart person. Well done Bro !!!

[@xxzenonionnex7658]

Exactly

[@adolfostalini5957]

Frying like a rattlesnake is not the best idea you had recently.

[@Brakiri]

So, still not worth it. At these energy prices at the moment it would be more efficient to just get one tier better because the 50 buck you paid more you will get back within a year or two on the energy bill.

[@Bass.Player]

Well when the review starts out with the TDP and efficiency expect the remaining to go down hill. which these Zen 5 chips do... Unless you over clock the shit out of then but then the heat climbs way up.

[@MarsMarsTitan]

no bad

[@garywilson7420]

Probably should have been called Zen 4+ imho... Hopefully higher core count models might bring something more. Kinda weaksauce tbh. Was thinking of a 9900x to replace this AM4/5700x system. Have some nice B Dies that hit 3800 so reluctant to leave them for meh tbh. (5700x3d is tempting).

[@GoonyMclinux]

Im sticking with the 5700x3d for another gen...... Its a little monster.

[@keblin86]

So strange, most other tech testers are saying it's bad with the odd 1 or 2 saying it's good lol. It would be good if it was £100 cheaper but there's not much point in buying right now unless u really care about running costs

[@SimBunker]

@keblin86 Because most are looking at pure FPS. The way to sell this chip is the efficiency. It's hardly any slower than the X3D for about 40% less power draw! That's how AMD should be selling this. For years people have been saying get the power consumption down, and they've done that for pretty much the same performance. This might actually sway me, as I'm running triple monitors, I won't be CPU bottle necked, so I can even under volt slightly, and draw significantly less power. Then with the option of over clocking later or even the X3D variant when it comes out which will be very very interesting if the power draw is the same or similar.

[@gerardw.7468]

​@@SimBunkerHonestly, I wouldn't say it's the same as the X3D variants of zen 4 in gaming based on some results I've seen. But I think it definitely is similar enough results to 7000 non x3d chips at a lower power draw, which can be a very interesting choice for people who are running a mid low end platform, small Itx build that doesn't need the CPU headroom or wants easier cooling. The power users would still stick with x3d. Might as go as far to saw that THIS just isn't really for them.

[@SimBunker]

@@gerardw.7468 I'm still getting my head around AMD CPUs, always went intel, but going AMD this time. Is there a CPU you'd recommend to run triple 1440 monitors with a 4080? Majority of use will be SIM racing and some flight Sims.

[@HM-rz8nv]

​@@SimBunker with current releases - If you want to focus on maximizing your gaming FPS on the three monitors, get the 7800X3D. If you want that extreme CPU energy efficiency while still have a good gaming experience, the 9700X would be the way to go. Either of these options should be find for running three monitors like this. It really depends on what your preference is at this point - insane FPS or insane efficiency.

​@@SimBunker for gaming 7800x3d or new 9700. If you need more cores i would wait for 9900x. Or 9950x

[@karlos1060]

So in a nutshell about 70% more poweruse for 7% performance gain. Not worth it! And if you compare it to the 7700 non X the difference in performance to power is only 7%!!! And when are people going finally to talk about the skeleton in the clauset? The between 400 tot 800% more IDLE power usage compared to Intel?

[@HM-rz8nv]

He had a lot of single threaded test in there as well, his MT averages result about 10-15% gains, which is significant, but of course at a far higher power. I personally like that AMD went for energy efficiency this generation, because last gen was essentially "overclocked" out of the box. This generation allows people to take advantage of a really high power draw with PBO (or manual OCing) if they want to get a _generational performance uplift_ .

[@nicholaspeyton5460]

huge disappointment 2 years for 10%? so to double performance I've got to wait 10 years? lol

[@Vialli100.]

Use an AMD GPU, not Nvidia crap..

[@xtinct16]

garbage test all you did was run synthetic benchmark which doesn't reflect for most real world applications.

[@ThaexakaMavro]

Synthetic bench show how much you leave on the table on app that doesn't harvest all the power for from stupid

[@Mr11ESSE111]

unfortunatelly AMD lies alot on CES and after about performance and benches tests!! this cpu are barrelly better then last year 7700x while 30% more costly and 9700x are with price direct rival to 7800x3d or r9 7900/x but nowhere near them in performance

[@pkpnyt4711]

They talked about IPC gains when they released it and all the reviews you've seen don't talk about that. If you replicate what they used at CES, you actually get the same numbers. If you don't get that, that's on you.

[@ThaexakaMavro]

They said 13% most review that teste the gains got 12% so no you're moving the goal post

[@cuteAvancer]

​​@@pkpnyt4711Yeah, they just have a weird marketing scheme. They should have absolutely ranted about the efficiency here while still retaining amazing perfomance (something Intel can't do.) Like having 30 to 40 less tdp while still retaining all of that perfomance is very impressive. Once these go on sale and 7000x stock depletes; these will be great chips to have while still being on AM5. X700 skus aren't the high end of the generation lol. You still have the power of 800s, 900s, and 950s! The 9000x will probably be the good "efficiency" workload chips while the x3D is where we will see gaming perfomance uplifts.

[@Mr11ESSE111]

@@ThaexakaMavro who said?? i watch this smaller channels and they are assholes !! Kitguru test 4 games at 1440p ultra and on 3 games 10 cpus are from 1-3fps difference !! that guy dont know nothing

[@Mr11ESSE111]

@@ThaexakaMavro if you want pay shitty 9700x 360$/euro or more but in that price range its much better to go with 7800x3d or r9 7900/x and for 280$ of 9600x its much better to go with under 200$ 7600x or just buy 7700x for same price as 9600x

[@jesternangel]

WHY IS IT THE ONE THING MISSING IS 800 SERIES CHIPSET MOTHERBOARDS? I AM SURE THE HAMSTRING THING GOING ON IS THAT TESTING IS BEING DONE ON 600 SERIES CHIPSET MOBOS...THIS IS NOT A GOOD REPRESENTATION OF A NEW CPU FOR EITHER AMD OR INTEL....INTEL WORKS BETTER ON DDR5...BUT YOU HAD BOARDS..NOW AMD? ARE THE PERFORMACE ISSUES DUE TO CHIPSET DEFINCIES OR SILICON ISSUES? INQUIRING MIND WOULD LIKE TO KNOW....

[@reviewforthetube6485]

Yes smd did this on purpose to push people towards the flagship 9950x and it will be a beast out of the box but this is a problem. They are saying F bidget buyers and then if you do this you void your warranty and they know it. Watch the best 3d varaint if they come out with one will also be the 9950x lol But even with OC this is to small for a new generation of cpu. Especially amd showing sometimes 45% gains over a 14700k! With the 9700x? Like wtf kind of sandbagging is that! Ridiculous and horrible lies in gaming especially.

[@anistardi]

Software application are not only gaming. AMD improved something but not affect everything. So it depend on the software. Some will be no gain, some will be significant gain. In this processor, software that use AVX512 intensively and floating point intensively gain significant improvement. The big improvement is the efficiency.